October 30, 2013
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1h 8m
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Mark Koernke discussed weapons, ammunition, and military preparedness, covering rifle grenades, flares, grenade safety systems, and fragmentation design. He addressed the imminent closure of the last U.S. lead smelting plant by EPA order, its impact on ammunition production and national defense infrastructure, and strategies for lead recovery from shooting ranges. Callers raised concerns about the Alamo becoming a UN World Heritage Site and the Federal Reserve Charter expiring January 1, 2014. Koernke emphasized ammunition shortages, the need for self-sufficiency, and expressed strong opposition to federal overreach and international control of American resources.
- rifle grenades
- ammunition shortage
- lead smelting plant
- epa regulations
- lake city arsenal
- weapons wednesday
- grenade safety
- preparedness
- federal reserve charter
- alamo world heritage site
- un occupation
- obamacare
- constitutional rights
- militia preparedness
- national defense
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You pray to God, you get the torture freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each God given right we only watch in tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms He'd fought to keep what would be your answer if he called out from the grave is to still the land of the free Good evening ladies and gentlemen, this is the evening intelligence report. I'm R. Krunke. And I'm Don Betcher. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines in occupied territories west, central, southeast, and north. Well ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to us on... Liberty Tree Radio dot 4 mg dot com run A-M-N-N microstations, CB base stations, and ultra-net technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska. We're on the Hallmark network on eastern seaboard from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida, from the bottom of Florida across the arc of the Gulf of Mexico, headed to Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, Oklahoma, big chunk of Nebraska, a whole bunch of Wyoming to include both the third, the fifth, the pit, and our friends in the that's right recall state slash the Battleground of Colorado for all of our guys and gals out there don't go for one go for all of them get recall petitions going for the whole pile of trash and Then focus your firepower on the one you do want to recall but make the rest suffer Do damage wherever you can with regard to also recalling the governor. No, it doesn't have to succeed, but they're busy trying to deal with that or work around it. Guys, you've wasted more of their time than the few moments it takes for you to get somebody else to sign a second petition that you're carrying. You see how that works? but you're going to recall that other piece of trash senator that definitely needs to be pushed out of its job that skunk in Colorado but that's not the only one, there's a whole bunch of other ones that need to be fired so make them worry about their seat put some fire underneath it anyway, left coast waving there, turning back to the east, sweeping across the plains, leaping over the Mississippi we land in the Smokies with the restaurant crew, Grammar Teams, OK Teams and Ma Bell Grammar Consortium and the girls are up for a birthday most of them next month which is only days away. Don, what is the day today, sir? And what is this special day across America? Well, Mark, it is the 30th day of October. You're of our Lord 2013. And you know, again, that's the stripe down the middle of the week that we date. There is a particular day that is named, but around here we will, oh, trying to treat the extractor easier. What we're going to do is insert the magazine in the magazine well and touch that slide release. And now I've got one in the chamber. And I touch that magazine release, and I've got that magazine back in my hand. And here's that chicklet, and it goes into the top of the magazine. It goes down, and it goes back. And then the magazine between index finger and baby finger, it goes back into the same plane as the palm of the hand, the other hand. And the magazine goes back into the well. And well, I've got one in the chamber, and eight in the magazine. And the magazine is. Did I mention that back in the magazine? Well, and it is weapons Wednesday. The perimeter is secure and you know what? There's plenty more where that came from and a whole lot more load magazines too. We've got the ability to offer equal opportunity coercive force! Putting a bullet in them before they get a chance to put a bullet in you. The idea is to knock them down, knock them down hard. When you fall over, hit them in the crotch again or the bottom of the foot if that's all you can see or aim for the top of the head and the shoulders as they fall towards you. Always remember guys, follow up but not the way everybody's, you know, somebody hit the torso and wonder the head. Well, they're bobbing around and trying to get away usually. So let's get the bullets into the crotch area first, put them down, knock them over. That's where the mobility still has to exist. So remember if you aim for the groin area, That's going to get through to the flexible armor points and into the hip, bust an artery, bust up the leg, hit the groin, lower organs. That's the kind of hit you want because that makes for screaming and thrashing. And they'd laugh about that if they did it to you. Let's make sure we, well, give them the honor first. Then when they hit the ground thrashing, if you need someone to scream into the radio set, let them keep screaming. Remember, they're tying up a tactical frequency. If not, Remember, they fall forward, make sure you put a round in laterally through the hole of the torso. You hit them in the top of the shoulder, the side. If you aim for the head, you might miss a little bit, but it will scut along the helmet, scut to the neck, go down into the torso, hit the lungs, other components, go into the organs, and that's where the bullet stops. Probably is right about there. Wow! You've done all kinds of messy damage. It takes a lot of medical support if they do survive. And if I have my way, well, the ball peen hammer finishes the job. I'm not going to waste another bullet on them. Very target specific. You don't waste a bullet and all that used to be theirs is yours now. Exactly. It's reusable. There's another tool out there. The traditional forger's hammer or forging hammer. The original hammers are many different types of hammers used for iron and steel mongering. The fur hammer has a taper and it is focused to create that peening effect in a very narrow space but it branches out from the base. That is another one but the only thing is that penetrates deeper and so getting it out of whatever you stuck it in takes a little more work. Let's be real mean here. because you know it is weapons Wednesday and it just depends on who you've just caught up with because a roll of cellophane would really come in handy for some of them bat rasterd out there you know what I mean? Well as it is again it is weapons Wednesday a couple things we touched on Don in the two hour block I want to reinforce this real quick remember everybody's worried about indirect weapons or you know again volume fire let me point something out If everybody had a rifle grenade launcher, and everybody technically, a lot of you do, you just didn't know it, okay? But if you had 120 men in a company, and you actually adopt the rifle grenade principle, instead of a grenadier, like, you still have a grenadier, by the way, you still have a guy with a 40 millimeter grenade launcher in every squad, or every fire team, preferably, which is really the norm. However you look at it, the 40mm grenade launcher is cool because it's very specific and it's the poor man's light mortar nowadays. But guys, if 120 men all have the ability to launch a rifle grenade simultaneously, what type of effect do you think that has on a target? They never discuss this, but in reality if you want to talk about shock and awe or shuck and jive, because that's in reality what most of the propaganda was they were pushing anyway. But if you really look at this again in a thrust attack where you have a whole bunch of unconventional or paraconventional troops or even conventional The one thing you never see discussed is the idea of saturation attack at the local slash tactical level like this. However, consider if you had an objective and you wanted to do the classic Sturmgeveer slash the Storm Gun slash Stormtrooper type of assault. Every man firing one rifle grenade means 120 HE rounds going into a target. Each one of those having a burst radius of about 20 to 25 feet. Now, that's the Russian assault system in its classic form because the Russians believed in cascading artillery and cascading HE fire. What would be the magazine capacity of that Apache or of that Hind? When it jumps up from beyond that hill over there and starts pounding 20 or 40 millimeter into a bunker as described in the green horse, how long could that burst last? Maybe four seconds? In reality, they don't have semi-trucks full of of bullets, complete 40mm cartridges in the helicopter. Do they Mark? They only have so much available. It may be a flying tank but here's the problem, it flies. So I challenge you to take a look at its capacities. How long can it fire? The first, I'm sorry to interrupt you but I want to underscore this. The first spit fires you guys, remember, like so many, so few and all of that, 15 seconds. You couldn't count it out. That's 5 3 second bursts and your guns are dry. 1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 Oh shoot I fired before that didn't I? Oh man! Or for somebody like they said lay off the trigger. Remember you'll hear that in a lot of movies. Lay off the trigger. with aircraft? Well there's a reason. Those wings only carry so much ammo guys. Yup. That helicopter has to beat the air into submission or the plane has to have thrust to create lift and get into the air and have fuel to stay aloft. Compare what Mark has described, deliver it onto a target, compare that to what a helicopter, be it an Apache, some of the other attack cobra or or whatever this or that or a hind. What would that deliver compared to what Mark was just describing as energy delivered onto a designated area? And everything done with less energy expended to get the HE round to where it needs to be with that infantryman. The big thing is that the SOP, Standard Operating Procedures, is for you to carry so many grenades, so much smoke, and so much in the way of support, weapon systems, equipment. Example is we've talked about airborne troops. And an airborne soldier loads up, if he's truly loaded up for a real combat drop, He's wearing his standard combat load. He's going to carry all his mags, whatever is designated in an SOP for his unit. He's carrying magazines, he's carrying his personal equipment. He then has, of course, let's go with a basic load as usual, like six frag grenades, four smoke grenades, or CS grenades of some kind. All those are just again smoke projectors, guys. In addition to that, he will then be issued at least one can, or not an ammo can, but one carrier can of ammunition, at least one but typically two belts, for the squad gunner in his unit. In addition to that, he'll carry one, depending on what era it is, today it would probably just be one Viper, but it could be two, he'll be issued two anti-tank weapons that are throwaways. He'll also be given two mortar rounds. Wait a minute. We're trying to shock weight on this guy aren't we? Yes we are. As a matter of fact, but remember he's an airborne soldier. He's got to go in his head. If he hits the ground, what you carry in is all you have. So think the same way as a militiaman. When you're deploying guys, your SOP should be to have a set amount of equipment. Three flares, three smokes, and your combat load of ammunition. Now when I say three, I ain't talking cigarettes when I say smokes. Three flares, as in pop flares down range, three smokes. At least. You want to carry more? I ain't telling you what you're going to carry maximum. I'm telling you the minimum load. And then on top of that, anything else that's carried in, for instance, if you did have a belt gunner, everybody should be carrying a belt of ammunition for that guy. If your unit was able to buy a Browning 1919 or one of these Mag 58 semis or one of these other guns, You better be buying enough belts and you better make sure that everybody's carrying a squad in the squad is carrying a belt for that gunner. He's your base of fire weapon. Okay? The same is true with any other full-auto weapon you capture. Everybody will be distributing the weight. Now, think about this, the next thing we're adding is, well how about instead three rifle grenades. Now rifle grenades are smaller. Now for anybody who doesn't know what I'm talking about, I'm going to save you a lot of time, go to Google, go to any of these search engines, I don't care which one you use, and look for images and then punch in rifle grenade. Now the most standard rifle grenade from World War II is basically where we've gone back to in terms of the size of a lot of the grenades that are produced. They've made them more efficient, they've made them tighter and smaller. It gives you the ability to throw a grenade or the equivalent to a grenade or an anti-tank weapon out to a couple of hundred yards easily if not farther. I'm not going to get too complicated in this, but there's another thing called a medicine ball. First we produced the rifle grenades you see. World War I we had cup grenades. World War II we went to the spigot grenade. The spigot system, very easy to understand, it's just an aluminum tube that slides over, okay, over a spigot that's on the end of the gun, and there's a solid base to the rifle round itself, to the actual charge. When you fire the blank that activates and pushes the round downrange, it slaps the back of it. The fins that are on the little aluminum tube stabilize the grenade. It goes downrange, impacts and goes kaboom! Now if it's a flare when you fired it the fire from the from the blank charge Activates a piece of manganese filament that's in the back base of the charge It burns at a certain point and then activates a capping charge. That's where you see those cool flares done You know we've seen in the movies where and then? Flair you know this there's light above and that means somebody's want to shoot your arse okay Because they're illuminating the area so you'll become a target It's kind of obvious. Hey, flare! Don't look at the pretty lights right now. Don't look at the flare. Look for the long shadows that are moving and shoot to the end of the shadow. Exactly. So guys, this is why when the flare goes off, we don't look up at the flare. We start looking for cover. Does everybody understand that? We already know what a flare looks like. Do you all remember what flares look like? Okay, now I'm going to remind you again if you're still alive here tonight that we don't look at the flares. We look for cover. Because if a flare went off, somebody plans on shooting at you. Another thing to plan on, if a flare went off, eventually it's going to burn out, isn't it Mark? That's right. With that in mind, you hear that sizzle as it jumps up into the air. You want to think, man, which eye do I want to close? Yep, exactly. One eye should be up. We immediately do winking and blinking. one eye closed, the other eye open, what's going to happen is the eye that's open, your night vision is being burned out by that white light. It's not going to be gone forever but you're losing that night vision. However, when that flare goes out, that's your time to move. Thank you for bringing it up, Dunk. That is one of the things everybody, in fact, remember this, when the flare goes off, most of the people who are in front of you aren't even going to be looking at you if they're just doing a test, if they're probing, but there will be two men to four men in front of you that are looking. They in fact are designated to lose their night vision because they are the spotters. If you don't have night vision, you use flares. and those guys will be watching for and observing with their normal eyesight taking advantage of the white light. When the flare goes off, all the rest of the unit is looking and the guys that have lost their night vision are now owls. They're directing fire though. Yeah, exactly. To your front, to your front, 50 meters to your front, Grenadier, Grenadier. Call out fire guys, they will. Now, the thing is, with a rifle grenade, you're carrying three. The rifle grenade launchers are really cool because they don't have many more. For instance, Sarco used to sell rifle grenade flares grade two from World War II, dated 1943 through 1944, and they were $1.25 apiece. Now, when they are older, flares, now this is the problem with flares, don't. First of all, equipment gets tired and old. It happens. Just sitting there and the material tries to go back to the earth. If you have older rifle grenade flares or rifle grenade components, keep a piece of green Brillo scour pad, the green plastic pad with you. What you want to do is you pull the stopper on the base of any of these flares or grenades and the first thing that you do is pay attention because usually it's cork. The cork gets old and bonds to the aluminum or to the low grade metal tube that is the spigot fixture. What you want to do is quickly prep these before. Don't just think you're going to use them at the last minute. Take the stopper out of the base which kept the tube dry. Check to make sure there's no adhesion with whatever material was used. The inside of the tube will be coarse to a degree because it's been sitting and then chances are there will be some oxidation. That little green pad is so that you can prep the inside of that tube real quick to clean up the contact surface. Now there's a reason for this. The spigot grenade should only just slide over but move freely down the spigot and seat on the launcher. If it's tight, there will be an embarrassing experience for some of you that you will not possibly live through if it's a grenade. When you launch, what will happen is, and I've had this happen with flares guys, I've been here first hand when I told the Grenadier what to do and he decided he knew more than I did. And what happened is, you fire at the, what happens is the spigot actually retards the launch because it's a brazing to the launcher and the flare then activates at the end of an M1 Garand. That's not fun. We don't want that to happen. I wish I had a camera. I really do. That is burned to my memory. Pardon the pun. Flair, burn, get my drift. When that happens, what takes place is normally the filament is activated by the blank. The spigot locks to the launcher. It just holds. It doesn't go anywhere. and because there's enough abrasion to hold it in place that chunks of old cork or the piece or you know the abrasive material it bonds and the adhesion keeps it there will then the filament burns down and then the charge explodes that pushes the flare out of the cup but instead of it being 500 to 1000 feet above you it's only four to five feet above you and it still has the same lumen and the same candle power and the same calories you know, get that temperature, you know, it's burning, the keyboard is burning. Having it right there in front of you is not the same as 1000 feet up. Trust me on that one, okay? So, prepping the equipment is very critical if you have caches of older equipment, remember, and there's a lot of these out there. There's hundreds of thousands of them laying around. To say it's not a very bright thing to do is misleading. Yeah, the player is supposed to be illuminating the whole area, not your fighting position or your crew when you're launching because guess what? That will be the place where all the next batch of bullets coming down range are going to find your player. You get the drift. And you're in the, by the way there's that Kodak moment, I just wish I had the faces of the guys that were standing there on film when it happened because it's one of those things I'll never forget, it's like I had to laugh, I couldn't help it guys, I just had to laugh. But everybody is scrambling for cover, hiding under a humvee, deuce and a half. Everybody is trying to get the hell out of the way of this thing and it's not going anywhere. The operator did exactly the opposite of what I told him. I told him exactly what he needed to do, told him how to use it. It still did its job, but it's not quite the way we expected. Well, the way we anticipated, but he didn't expect. So anyway, case in point, know your equipment, test your equipment, but remember if it's older, there are things that may have to be done to secure it. Now, another thing, rifle grenades have safeties just like a conventional grenade. Now, what do I mean by that? Most of the Dutch, German, US, and other countries rifle grenades especially since remember guys you're not old technology most other countries still use rifle grenades the Dutch make a wide family of rifle grenades you will capture from your enemy they will not only work on their weapons they will work with your weapon but you have to use a blank projector you can't use a bullet for this guy you don't use a live round use what's live but it's a it's a blank charge round so you want to capture those and take those and make sure they stick with the grenade. Now the Dutch models, the German models and the British all have what is a second wire or pin safety system on the rifle grenade itself. Sometimes it is a wrap around and it has a little hook like it looks like a It actually is a little coil at the end that makes for a thumb tab. And what you do is you push that and it actually pulls it off the end of the charge or the capping device on the end, which is the fuse. And then it still has a piece of rod that's the end of that coil wire that goes through and is actually a physical safety. So you have to pull that out. This is also true of grenades. Grenades do not just come out of the bucket with just the pull pin. There is a second safety that typically none of you see that actually is around the spoon of the grenade. It has a little triangular tab made out of wire the same way that's bent and it's the same material as the primary safety, or should say as a secondary safety, that is designed to make sure that if the firing, if the pull pin fails, if it either wears out or if it is accidentally not properly installed, say at the factory and it wiggles out, This other safety is around the base of the fuse, actually it's on the edge of the angle that the spoon comes down off from. You'll see that there's a little cleft on all of the grenade fuses. That's where the safety is typically on the American grenades. It keeps it from fighting off, yes. Yes, it keeps it from, if the main pin were to be gone, it would be in transport. This is a second safety so you don't have horrible accidents. Oh, you mean like let's take off, let's pull all the pins before we go into this area of operation. Let's get really stupid and be a federal agent, right? Couldn't help but bring that one up because they'll never live that one down. Self-ragging government employees are desirable. We like to see that. The thing is that different countries have different grenades. Now here's another wonderful thing. Go to Google or go to any of these other search engines and do an image on grenades. Pay attention and look at the different types of grenades. You can punch in Dutch grenades. They even market these things, guys. There's whole marketing sites. You don't have to be ignorant of any of the stuff you're going to be pulling off the corpses of your enemy. Instead, what you need to be doing is studying and immersing yourself in military science. The thing about grenades, they're not complicated, but it's good to know all the different steps because in darkness you don't want to be surprised. While I threw that grenade, I pulled the pin and it didn't go off. What did you do? I pulled it out of the canister and I did what I saw in the movies a million times. Before you do that, again, understand the different weapons. The Dutch make a really small grenade that actually has about the same killing power as our standard grenade, but it's about the size. It's about the size or a little bigger than a golf ball, guys. Which means that you can carry a lot more grenades. You know what I mean? Think about that. So, if you see them, don't think because it's tiny. Oh, that's less dangerous. What is the trigger system on that, Mark? Same thing. Same fuse as a standard American grenade. Oh, cool. That is neater than the Splice guys. It's just smaller, huh? Yeah, you can carry about three of their grenades to the price. And again, fragmentation pretty much equal too, huh? Copper wire wrapped. It's very vicious. Oh boy. It's a notch copper wire. So, keep in mind guys that it's a foil, the expansion will be very uniform, it's a very efficient grenade for its size. It's not the only one like this. The Germans make one that looks like, in fact there's a number of different companies out there making them, they're the size of 35mm film canisters. Again, rather than just a shock grenade, they are a fragmentation grenade. They use a copper or steel wire wrap. When they build these, what they do is they have a notching system that notches the wire or notches the cable or the tape that they use that they wrap inside the canister. What they do is they wrap it around a mandrel. It's already notched. Then they temper it. Now by tempering it, they make it frangible. Now they don't want it so brittle that it just shatters. What they want it is so brittle that what it does is it breaks where they notch the wire. Now, when the concussive wave of the explosion inside the canister goes off, it shatters the breaking points in the wire, and that in turn forces this fragmentation out in a uniform direction, all 360 degrees and full sphere, top and bottom. So what you get is a much more uniform fragmentation expansion when the device goes off. That's what you want to do when you build grenades. See, the pineapple grenade looks cool. Everybody is familiar with it, which in reality the pineapple grenade was great for battlefield use in World War I because it was mud, blood, and beer, right guys? Think about it. The dark side of the universe. The conditions were horrible. So having something that has a little bit of a grit pattern is cool. But it doesn't necessarily break uniformly because the notches were on the outside, although it does break better than most. If you're building a grenade or an anti-tank, anti-personnel device, you want the serrations on the inside. And the reason is that what happens is the explosive slap of the whatever powder charge or whatever device, whatever you're using to make the explosion, it follows the path of least resistance of the fragmentation material, shatters and cuts it like a diamond cutter or like a glass cutter. and then slaps the material and spreads it out and that in turn creates a uniform expansion of fragmentation. So you want the iterations on the inside. If you make, for instance, we use PVC pipe or if you use metal or whatever, you take a Dremel tool or you could take a, again, if you had a machine shop, you would score the insides. of the material and then you would score it front to back, top to bottom, length of the pipe also about a half inch apart. This would create uniform expansion when the device goes off. And horrible fragmentation in the process of course, which is what you want. You're trying to do harm because they're trying to do harm to you. You want to make sure you do more harm to them first. There you go. It works that way. The other thing, right? Don't forget the role of cellophane. Yeah, exactly. Remember when we're all done, the cellophane deals with the other parts of the problem. Real quick here, down before we go any farther because we are headed towards the bottom hall. We are past it but that's alright. Your number for night vision please. And again guys, down is going to be available in about 30 minutes. Everybody is saying the same thing. It's pretty well, the game is over as far as whatever is going to happen. The bad guys are playing things out. They're hoping to catch everybody flat footed. We're not going to be. In fact, one of the things I would say is all the people that hadn't bought a whole lot of ammunition say in the last year because they didn't quite believe what they were seeing right before their face, well when they all went to Washington and found out that things were a lot worse than they expected, they all went home and told everybody it's over, buy more ammo, and that's what everybody's doing. So right now guys, the next wave of purchasing, nobody in the control media is talking about this because they've been told not to. But stuff is being vacuumed off the shelf and it's being vacuumed off the shelf by people who know how to shoot people. And we're talking people on our side but people that finally realize that there's no talking to these characters. So you're debating with a whole bunch of other people out there now. Anyway, for everybody farther, Don, your number for night vision, what do you have available please? Hey, if you want to talk to me, that number is 231-796-8458. Again, 231-796-8458. We can talk about that first generation gun sight. We still got those. There's no back order on those. This time last year it took like almost eight weeks to get one, but now it's just a couple weeks turnaround on that. And it'll be right in your mailbox for $429. 308 capable, it'll thumb screw down onto your 7-8ths or your 1-inch rail, your Weaver or Picatinny rail respectively, 7-8ths or 1-inch. Hey, even the bottom of that rail, if you've got one of these already, will turn 180 degrees on the device. If you can't find a place in your cross notches on your rail to find really good optimum place for it, think about turning. the rail on the bottom of almost every one of the gun sites I offer and that'll move it forward or back a half an inch different and that might be just enough to be comfortable for you. So rail, yeah, again, we've built real gun site stuff, adjustable. Don, for some reason, are we breaking up? Over, over? Oh, I've got... I hear something else in the background. I think it's from Ed's and it's a Skype tech. He might have to read it. One more time for that phone. Go to the bottom. If you want to talk to me, you guys, then... Two, three, nine, six. And we've walked down... One, two, three. One, two, three. Okay, for whatever reason, you're adjusting it right. Let's see what's going on. That is not the Skype on my end. That's the conference line. We have a caller. The caller jumped in there. Who do we have? John, it's a main calling. Go ahead, John. Jump in there, please. Just one question. This is something I just heard about yesterday or this morning, but I don't know if you guys talked about this from a week or two ago. I've heard about this story where the EPA shut down this lead-snelting plant. Is that something that happened recently? It's supposed to happen the first of the month. In fact, the next day or two here, they're talking about they've decided to shut the company down because they're not going to try to conform to Obama's EPA. They expanded the restrictions tenfold. and the company says that they can't do anything to fix the problem. So what they're going to do is shut down. It's a virgin smelting plant. This is one that processes lead and it's the last one in the United States that actually processes raw lead. Now there are other companies that do recycling. That's all that will be left for the US as far as inside the United States. This is just like the iron industry. This is the last American raw smelting plant for lead in the country. I understand Missouri is someplace near the Lake City Army Ammunition Plant. Indeed, Lake City was located there because of its proximity to this lead mill. I guess Missouri has a lot of lead. or in the ground and that's part of the reason why Lake City was located where it was. Let's remind everybody, Lake City is the last U.S. arsenal that was completely functional of the 28 sisters. Before World War II, you had several different American arsenals that had been in place and were producing all components and all firearms. That's why these arsenals were of course so familiar to everybody. Lake City Arsenal is one that was actually a newer plant by comparison, but St. Louis Arsenal, Frankfurt Arsenal, Rock Island Arsenal, they're all gone. The only one left that is actually a complete, it's not a ghost of the original concept, was Lake City. And it could do everything from raw materials to final product. Now, before World War II started, there was a convention of the War Department combined with elements of commerce. And what they did is they established a plan for an entire expansion, wartime production expansion, of our arsenals for the United States, you know, for the U.S. defense. By the time they were done, there were supposed to be 40-some arsenals completed so that in the event we were invaded, we would have tactical distribution of our strategic production. What happened is they completed most of the project and then retarded it as we beat the Japanese. You ended World War II in 1945. However, most of the arsenals that we built, we were screwed on and they were actually marketed out by the international bankers and shipped out of the country. Most of Greece, all the production we were getting off the Greek 30-06 is mostly from American machinery, newer than the American machinery that we're presently running in the arsenals we have. because a lot of the arsenal machinery we kept was from World War I and dated into World War II. Most of the arsenals we shipped overseas that the characters like the Israelis stole, all of that is the newer machinery that had fewer hours on it. Lake City is the only plant of the middle generation that's left, in fact not even the middle, but also of the newer arsenals. In fact, all of our traditional arsenals systematically were betrayed and shut down. The Lake City plant is centrally located and because of the raw materials was the only full cycle facility left in production. Now if they shut this lead production down, which it's obvious they're going to do, I mean it's not an if, it's just, and Mo Bummer doesn't care, he's international as he's betraying the country. If they can destroy that element or at least put it down so it's cold, then that's another part of our national defense infrastructure that he's helped to destroy. That's what this is all about. This is a total betrayal of the United States. If we are not ready to do for ourselves, the globalists have taken over our industries, they have screwed all of the heavy production, we are not going to have it for another 10, 15 or 20 years before we get everything back up and online. We'll get some of it up, but not like we had. But don't worry, most of the rest of the world isn't in much better shape because the carpet baggers have been raping everything everywhere. It's just that we're screwed and we're going to have to start from not so much scratch, but we're going to have to start with smaller production and build up during wartime is what we're going to have to do. I'm talking about war against the invader, us, you, we. I'm thinking that the ... I'm just going to put a more additional financial pressure on the ... Well, in terms of the ammunition cost, it's going to have to presumably just go up and it just seems like all the more reason to try to recover whatever lead you can from shooting ranges or back sops for people just on gravel pits or places where people are known to shoot. If you can recover your lead or find sources for that, all the more reason to do is pile it up even if you don't. Even if you don't use it right now, it's not going to go anywhere. Let's remind everybody, lead is an element. It's not going to go anywhere, guys. It's in its final stage. It's the way it's always been. Here's a great way to store it that's cheap. Go to the recycling bins and get those one-gallon coffee cans. Then take the lead and put it in there and put that one gallon coffee can lid on it. The other thing that works really well right now is lots of those plastic Maxwell House and Folgers containers. They're perfect size. They're not too heavy. One person can easily move them. If you had to have somebody help you to move them, kids can move them, women can move them. If it's a five gallon pail, which we use also, remember that's a lot of weight and the average person can't move it. where your non-combatants can help with your logistic terrain. But if you palletize the stuff right, it's easy to move. So smaller containers that are well-structured are your best choice. And one gallon number 10 cans are perfect for that. They're not really one gallon, but they're close enough. We just call them one gallon cans. The other thing is also, like you said, I mentioned this in the two-hour block. Guys, get a map of your area. and mark all of the shooting sites in your area and make a log book up. That way you're not going to have to guess. You can tell people, go to this road, go to this location, and when you get here you'll see where the old impact areas are because there's usually cuts in the ground, etc. People have shot there for years, in some cases like where we are here for decades or a hundred years. You know what? Nobody's ever pulled the lead out of those spots and if we need lead we can mine it that way for the time being. It's naturally occurring. Now one of the things about this smelting issue, they're not closing down all the recyclers, so a lot of these recyclers will still be producing lead from or recycling lead from batteries and other components of materials. But even there, those materials are going to go back into the industries typically where they came from. In other words, they still need to make batteries, they still need lead for other processes, so that's competing with whatever other process now needs the lead. So what's going to happen, if you go to the NRA website, I'm pretty sure, and again, I have no trust in the NRA for the most part, but There is data you can pull from them and one of the things they cover this story, so if you go to the NRA they actually touched on this and focused on the fact that yep this is the last one, it's gone, it's done. If they shut it down they won't be able to open it back up because here's the thing, there's a basic rule with almost all these laws with regard to continuity in production. If you were already online before they passed all this stuff, then you have grace periods or at least more time. Again, there is a scale to the level that they can attack you with in terms of the law. But if you shut it off and you turn it back on, you are screwed because now you have to meet all of the new standards for a new facility. That's what people don't understand. They've done this across the country with all these factories, even with prisons. Most people don't understand the way federal law is set up. If they shut a prison down and they shut it down and leave it idle for one year, when they try to open it back up, it has to meet all of the new standards for operation. But if it's continuity, in other words, if they keep a maintenance amount of material going through the facility or on the site, then it has a different scale and standard. So what they're counting on doing is undermining and nobody's got the capital to go in and build new. Or at least if they do, it's going to put such a dent in hurt in them because of the banking system the way it is. But typically, within a very short period of time, they'll be taken over by a foreign asset, like the Belgians or whoever. And then they'll shut them down anyway. Go ahead, we've got George here too. Because that's lead too. The other thing is sinker. You can also get lead ingots too that are again from surplus companies. Always go, not surplus, forgive me, scrap metal companies. We got a scrap metal company here. The guy, I got 25 buckets of lead cast bullets. Now he was smart enough to stick them in the building and under some cover, but otherwise all you do is pay a scrap weight to him and those bullets are all ours. Well, Mark, here's another thing. I know this is probably enough to shoot behind end. I don't hear a real outrage in Texas and that is Alamo going to the United Nations World Heritage Site. Right and that's part of this whole thing like in 1977. I brought this up before. What this is is we are in national debt. They just did a demonstration of how bad the debt is by shutting down the system and what's the first thing they did. They used the UN International Biospheres to try and block them from America. Why? Because the international bankers were the ones pulling the strings on old bummer and the rest of these pigs. So, now what they're doing is they're going to start calling in notes. Well, the next thing that these states and governments are going to be handing over is all of these other park lands. because they have them in a public trust, but the public trust is attached to the national and the state debts. Each of the respective states will be stupid enough to hand over that collateral, creating another toehold for the internationals inside America, inside our sacred ground. Anybody who proposes that should be shot. Here's the thing. As a radio host in Austin, Texas, He was talking about robotoids, bloomatoids and all that stuff, but he ain't talking about the Alamo. He claims to hold so dear that he was at last week at that open carry demonstration. Right, I understand that. And the thing is, people don't realize on this, World Heritage thing, it's like there's a 100 mile buffer zone that people got to consider. It's not just the Alamo in the state parks. You've got the Alamo, you've got Goliad, you've got What we've touched on before, phase one of this was part of NAFTA and GATT. This is also part of the corporate occupation safety zone. In phase one, remember when NAFTA and GATT was first brought in, the Mexican truck drivers could only operate 100 miles inside the United States. That was only for dropping off their loads into whatever depot or hub they could drop it off and then they would carry a box back south. Then in Phase 2, they opened up the country to the Mexican drivers everywhere. If you don't think so, go on the CB and listen up in Cincinnati to the Mexican, the Spanish being heard over your radio non-stop. Just peruse the dial on your CB, Señor. So, the same is true, yes, with regard to the international expansion in sight coming into the US. That same tape of property, in fact, you could take a template, take a protractor, find out what the 100 mile mark is on your map, your scale. and then take and run that across the whole of the border and that is the international buffer zone that they've set up for occupation. The same is true from the Canadian border south. You mean the official one? Yeah, the official border is... Not like the one on your telephone. Yeah. Where you pick up the phone to, for example, pay your water bill or do dealings with your bank and the first thing they ask you is if you want to do this in Spanish. Yeah. Again, this is an example of the occupation and the betrayal and what's going on. Before we go any farther, do we still have John there? John, jump in there. Do you have anything else, sir? Nope, I think we'll go there. We have some background noise. We've got something else, major background. What do we got there? It's not me. I'm going to quiet. Okay. I think a trucker, we've probably got a truck driver. It's okay. Guys, remember, mute yourself. You have to do that. Anyway, anything else, please? Go ahead. Well, interesting as it concerns me, it's like there's not an upward. about this from Texas. So, the group that are out there now are the ones who really were listening to what we were saying, but they were all doing the crossed arm chuckle, like, oh yeah, right. Well, they all came back from Washington with their heads snapped sideways. They got slapped. They got a big red hand mark on their cheek there. and they're all realizing that they just got slapped and insulted by a bummer and the rest of the communists in DC and now they've come back out and they all thought they were just going to go to the gun store and go buy a bunch of ammo and they found out that what everybody's been talking about was already, the shelves are already vacuumed out and so now they're like oh my god and they're calling around I've been talking to people who are dealers they got these people that didn't have a clue they're like oh I can always go out and get a case of 30-06 and then they called up and they're like what do you mean you don't have it? What do you mean like they're special? Like if they're special and they call, this is this attitude I'm seeing all over the place, guys. I'm special, you're not. You don't know what you're talking about. But then they go out and they try to buy because they're thinking 10 years ago or 20 years ago, guys. They were wearing those little American Legion-based, you know, the Garrison caps, and they all thought they had some clue of what was going on. And they went to Washington, they found out nobody's listening, so they all went home and said, well, we'll show them, and I think we're going to have to do something now, or, you know, kind of. So one of the actions is to go buy something, and they still think it's America 1986. Seriously. They still think it's, well, I'd go out and buy a case of Chinese ammo for $50 a case, because I saw it in the shotgun news in 1992. I remember. It's still out there. Yeah, that case of Chinese ammo is still out there, but it ain't $50 a crate anymore. Well, Mark, you know another thing too. I know you mentioned about last night. It's yesterday about the The Federal Reserve Charter expiring on January 1, 2014, and I don't hear that being hammered as much. Well, they don't want to address that. No, nobody wants to, and certainly they don't want anybody. What I'm saying is, guys, they're trying to, listen, everybody out there, they want to catch everybody flat-footed. They think that by not mentioning it, nobody else is going to talk about it. Right. And that's the bottom line is, is the jig is up. They have taken in their logic that contract was supposed to indenture us so that we become subjects of the crown again. Think about it. What are they already talking about? Everybody even reinforces it. Well, do you know that your grandchild has now got $30,000 worth of debt on him? In other words, they're telling you that they believe that this is going to be some kind of imperpetuum indentureship slash bonding of your child and your grandchild and you will now be an indentured servant. who was a bondsman on what was free land by the shyster bankers. Well, you know what? I ain't nobody's property. And I plan on killing anybody who thinks that I'm going to be their property. In fact, I'm going to hunt down every son of a bugger who thinks that I'm their property, and I will kill them dead because I have great love of my liberty and ain't nobody going to make any of me or my friends a slave. And anybody, any of these slavers out there think they're going to do it need to die. That's the bottom line and that's what really they don't want anybody to know. Here's how it works. I ain't nobody's property. I need no piece of paper. You're going to push in front of me to say you own me. I will kill you. I will flat out, in fact, the first one that shows up thinks he's a repo man, going to call me property, he's dead. And he better be all thinking that way because this is again, how did this whole process of royalty come about? We are in the hell in the history of man because again nobody talks about it in the depths of time. What was the scam that was pulled? Well you are experiencing it right now guys. But again if you are the shyster who writes the history and can rewrite the history and rewrite the history and burn the books then you can lie to everybody about this. Well, it was just that there were slaves and serfs and there were bondsmen and well, how did this come about? See, this is like when everybody talks about everybody wants to avoid talking about communism. Has anybody noticed this? The Nazis! The Nazis! This is like the Nazis! No, it's not. These are communists. These are Soviet socialist people. Mark, they say, look, six million Jews died, but they never talk about the 60 million that chose... of Stalin murder. A hundred million Christians or more have died at the hands of the Jews. The whole communist mechanism is, in fact, let's think about something. And again, they don't even want you to relate to the flow of communism. Number one, everybody who made the thing, kicked the thing in, were all Jewish mobsters. The Zionist scammers there are no different from the Zionist scammers here. And nobody who all knew their work, you can't say that. What do you mean you can't say that? Look at the names. Now, it's so stinking apparent because the monopolists are to the point where who is it that's sinking this ship? What are their names? It's like I said before about this Obama care thing. This is in your face a complete failure. What are the names of the people who were in this process? Who are they associated with? What countries are they from? Why was the Obama scam thing run out of Canada in the first place, kids? You want to know why? So they're far enough away that when they got, when they plugged this in and they failed, they're in another country. Why isn't the FBI going to Canada and demanding that these characters be dragged back to the United States and charged with a federal crime? You want to know why? Because they're all international butt buddies and they're all with a certain click of people. That's why. Any other time, if I was you or me, they'd say they have to hunt us down and chase us across the world. Well, where's the stinking FBI busting all these people involved in this Obamacare scam? Because obviously someone carried billions of dollars away in digits and the product doesn't in any way, shape or form work and it wasn't intended to. They have now put it at risk. Let's talk about, oh my children were at risk, guys. How many people are being refused medical care right now because of these pigs? three years worth of a bummer care and they plug this garbage in and now people are being dropped left and right so now we get all these people in this void where at least they had some kind of medical coverage before because they had paid for it and paid for it and paid for it and now all of a sudden they can't have that because of these communist pigs and the communist pigs and now put everybody out on a branch and sawed the limb off. This is all part of this cascading failure thing. Where does it come from? Who are the slimes behind it every step of the way? The names are all there over and over again. Now we're going to look at this banking crisis. There's really no banking crisis because here's how it works. We arrest every sucker that's involved with the Federal Reserve and put their artists in prison right off the bat. They don't go anywhere. They don't get away, they don't go away, they get locked down and then we go right through the books and we try them for the charges that should be filed against them and we put them away for life chipping apart bricks. That's what needs to happen. The bad part is this is all cascading and everybody is getting a dark feeling because you can see it guys. Don, everybody I talk to, I think you're seeing the same thing. Isn't there kind of a flat mood out there? Oh yeah, beyond the those that you see that are chomping at the bit, there's the those that know what's going on and they're kind of, you know, patiently waiting. Exactly. Boy, that music is way up volume wise, needs to be turqued back just a hair, just a little. Anyway, we're at the top. Don, your number for night vision, please. That number is two three one seven nine six eight four five eight two three one seven nine six eight four five eight. very good. God bless the Republic. Death to the new world order. We shall prevail ladies and gentlemen, the Empire is on the run. But we are on the march both day and night. Anybody who tries to call me a piece of property and thinks they're going to try and claim me, they're going to die. Anybody else got any problem with that? You're stupid. It's that simple. Your children are not somebody's property. Somebody else's property to play with. You are not somebody's property to play with. We are free men and women on free ground. God bless the Republic. Death to the new world order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. But we are on the march for day and night. Don, your number for night visioning and encloses, please. It's 2317968458. Thank you, Mark. God bless you. God bless you, America. 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