October 30, 2013
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1h 1m
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Mark Koernke hosted the afternoon edition of The Intelligence Report on October 30, 2013, focusing heavily on ammunition and brass recovery from shooting ranges. Caller Sean from Seattle shared his experience collecting over 100 pounds of spent lead and .22 ammunition from ranges near Mount Rainier, which led to an extended discussion about reloading, bullet casting, black powder firearms, and improvised ammunition production. The show covered practical preparedness topics including electroplating bullets, separating and sorting brass by caliber, scrap metal recovery, and DIY ghillie suit construction. Mark also discussed an explosion at an Army Ammunition Action Facility and promoted body armor availability through Apex Gun Parts.
- ammunition recovery
- brass reloading
- bullet casting
- black powder firearms
- lead ammunition
- preparedness
- weapons wednesday
- eagle possum net
- 80 meter radio
- body armor
- ghillie suits
- ammunition shortage
- electroplating
- scrap metal
- michigan militia
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The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost. You're no more than a slave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. 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As I awoke, he vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each God given right we only watch in tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave is this still the land of the free and home ladies and gentlemen I should have played out the rest of me I know but I wasn't sure how we were doing with the with the day here Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen, this is the first hour of the... Sorry, Dad, how long were you sitting on the line there? I've been here. I just... for more than a little more than half the song. But I want to let it play through anyway. Well, for whatever reason, my readout's not even showing the number that I know you're on. And I am at that number. Yes, I'm at the other number. Uh-huh, I know. It's showing it down below, but it's not showing you on the console list, which is weird. Okay. Well, anyway, for everybody out there, this is the afternoon intel report. I'm Mark Korky. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines in occupied territories west, southwest, east, and northeast. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you were listening to us on... hmm... Colorado, the recall and battle state, only a trigger pull away from starting the next war. Waiting in the left coast where Feinsteinism and the brown diaper stain bring communism to Soviet socialism too. The left coast, yep sure enough there, the California Soviet Socialist Democracy creating a beachhead for the communist Chinese foreclosure in America. We'll paint that color, that state red and yellow. Turning back to the east we sweep across plains deep over the burgeoning banks of the city land in the smokies with the restaurant crews, grandma teams, okay teams, and the Maubel Grammar Consortium of retired telecommunications workers up there in Cleveland, the three grandmas. Come up on a birthday November, November, November is the big birthday for the three sisters there. Actually three young ladies in their 90s and they're listening and working right now. And thank God again they're with us still this year and no we're not hoping anything will happen. In fact just reverse. Spite your enemy, live as long as you can. That's the most fun you can have in this life, on top of everything else, is to enjoy the animated and dynamic battle for liberty. It is a beautiful, and by the way, Golden Spike day for our friends there, it is the 30th of October. It is the fifth year of Open Fabian Socialist and Soviet Socialist Occupational America with a K2013 Old Earth Calendar or Mayan Crazy Town. crazy town calendar. I believe Ed needs to contact Randy and also for our friends, Captain Monahan has pretty well confirmed for the Eagle and PossumNet. Though the PossumNet may be a little farther down the dial, 39.900 is the base frequency to test this Saturday night, 80 meter range. 39.900 is the best frequency that we start with. You may want to move up and down the dial. I would start listening in. Warm up your rig about 9 p.m. Eastern time. Then, working from 10 o'clock on, once they've fixed the frequency, in other words, once they've ID'd a frequency where they're clear, clean, and green, then they'll be running for the rest of the evening until propagation fails. Then, of course, as we know, it goes from the eagle to the possum net, also the American net. There's a couple others that are coming up right now, too. They're doing a really great job of starting another grid. We don't care how many people are up there and how many different groups there are, that's the whole idea. More is better. So if you've got new people rebroadcasting and broadcasting that will be talking back and forth, transmitting, well, that's experience. That's time on target, guys. This last couple of weeks, there's been a lot of propagation problems. Solar flares and solar activity is the big thing. The solar winds alone. are enough to dramatically change propagation up and down the bandwidth with regard to radio. Again, we have to experiment. We have to find the niche that works. The guys have been working on that this week. Today is Wednesday by the way, which is weapons Wednesday of course. For everybody, again 39.900 for the Eagle and also the Possum Net will be benchmarking basically from that frequency. 39.90 then up and down the dial play with the variable rheostend until you find where they've got their marker and Then you guys kind of lock in that'll be made it's in the 80 meter range of course Anyway, it has been a very busy busy week beautiful day here in Michigan That means we're probably get snowed on anytime now. We're gonna get dumped on it's pretty weather. Oh, it's so nice Yeah, we're doomed No, we're not doing it's just not it's a matter of it's just a matter of when it's going to show up guys You all know how that work So, whether it's ahead in this way, I don't know if you want to call this the end of the summer or whatever. We've got to call her. Who do we have? Hi, Mark. This is Sean in Hyad, Seattle, the Left Coast. Hey, Jeff and Chris. Well, it's weapons Wednesday, thank God. I want to share something with you that I thought of, and I shared it on Henry's Radio Broadcast before yours. That is, last summer my daughter and I went up to snaring around Mount Rainier that's famed for illegal gun ranges. Let's just put it that way. We spent probably five days walking around with big five-gallon tails and we picked up all the lead we could find that was on the ground and dug through stumps. I figured we picked up over 100 pounds of just bullet lead. I was out with a friend of mine near the Funkin Patch the other day and we had a slingshot. You can imagine what fun we were having with some of that bullet lead. I couldn't believe with a wrist rocket a piece of .45 caliber spent lead what a person can do to a pumpkin. Oh, yeah. Amazing. Yeah. And the second item I want to point out is a lot of people are saying, oh, there's no 22 ammo, there's no 22 ammo. All you have to do when you go up to a range like that is take your foot and gently slide side to side and move the dirt out of the way and you'll see 22 ammo sitting on the surface. underneath the soil because of the lead bullet spill in it. I picked it up, wiped it off, put it in my derringer, and we've had some fun pumpkin juice with it. If you've got poison up, 300 rounds for free! Anyway, that's my Weapons Wednesday contribution from Seattle. This is Sean reporting for Mark Kirche. Well, I'll tell you what, appreciate number one, you did a great thing for the environment. You took the lead out of the environment. Oh, yeah. And now we're going to put the lead in another environment where it belongs, maybe with that wrist rocket. I mean, it's easier for the mice and for people like Don who can shoot at what's left of the pumpkins. Right, Don, if you're there? You know what? Really funny on that note, too, the wrist rocket. Do you realize what kind of consternation you create? I'll tell you a real good one with a wrist rocket if you picked up a bunch of the 380 bullets. Because the 380 bullets because they're shorter, you know, typically, you know, squatter, they're really good in the wrist rocket. And they're like you as you already found out, they cut, they seem to cut material and tissue really well. Now, it slices, it dices, it chops, it makes julienne fries perfect every time. It's the wrist rockets. And it stays right where you put it, bullet-wise. Have you probably cracked on your dad's farm? Well actually, if you haven't done that yet, we know we've mentioned him before, but we haven't mentioned him in a while. You've got the slingshot channel. The big guy who's got the arms bigger than my legs. I think I've seen that. Doesn't he make chainsaws out of V8 engines or something like that? He does all kinds of other projects, but the big thing is he's into making slingshot tools. He's had the zombie killing toilet launcher slingshots. He's done artillery slingshots. He's done a cannon flingshot and he's been shooting cars with a cannon flingshot. The thing is, he's got arms so that some of the stuff that he's built, one of the things he did, he was taking something like about a 60 caliber or 70 caliber ball bearing with his flingshot and he was firing on ballistic gelatin so you could see exactly what was going on. And what's interesting is, he actually started with smaller and he fired the smaller and it went straight through. I mean it was like 16 or 18 inches of ballistic gel which means there's no person going to stop that slingshot, right? So he goes, that's not what I wanted. So he goes and gets a bigger ball and he fires and he takes this like, it's horrible. You get this 70 caliber projectile, right? And he stops it right in the middle of the gel and he goes, that's what I wanted. And it's when you think about it, because you want a 70 caliber ball to go in your chest and stay somewhere around where your lungs are or at least roll around in the back end of the rib cage. That not only would be a hole, it would be a big chunk of something that rattles and stays where it is and really when it makes you want to sit down and relax. Oh, I grab everything I could. That's the thing I want people to think about is they're making this big deal about rifles and such. God, in Germany kids are making potato cannons out of plumbing pipe and taking old ladies legs off. I mean, there's just amazing stuff going on. You can cut into a wall in an old abandoned house, take out all the plumbing pipe you want, and just glue some pieces together, and you've got something that will take out a squad car if you have to. Remember, that's actually a goal. Look at World War I trench mortars. Think about it, the fact that trench mortars were not made in any factory. They were made from available junk on the battlefield by the troops in the trenches. They would have batteries of them. They would make their own artillery to support their position. What they would do most common was to use artillery shells, which means, again, it's basically plumbing with a cap. So, you take that idea and they made them so they could actually adjust the fire, they could move them, whatever they needed to do. But, PVC pipe, iron pipe, steel pipe, if it's only going to go one way, PVC pipe still works for a lot of projects if you want to even abandon it. It makes me want to get on YouTube and download every episode of MacGyver in the A-Team. 1972, a crack-commanding unit was sent to prison by a military court for crimes they didn't commit. These men wanted by Obama to escape from Mark Kernke's radio show and wanted. Today, survive as soldiers of fortune. You can find them. Maybe you can hire Ed or Mark Kernke. And the other team. Anyway, are we going to kill any zombies? It's almost Halloween. Well, the Elvis... There's got to be some zombie killers out there ready to call in with some of their improvised homemade devices. No, well, you know, the zombie disaster a real quick thing about your bullet recovery too, depending upon how the bullets, you know, were, you know, slowed down. If it was something where the impact that they're probably distorted, but a lot of, no, no, no, no, Mark, actually I took out some juice containers and I've been going through them one at a time picking out anything that's reloadable. Right. There were 45. Yeah. One of the things alive. A lot of the stuff, either the energy is spent depending on how far they were shooting from or what's cool is the surface material they're landing into. If you have snow, especially after a snow season, if you have a snow melt, always go out because the snow works just like cotton. It literally dampens the ground if the guy, you know, if it scuds into an area, chances are it'll be just sitting there on the ground pristine waiting for you. Again, unless it is radically distorted in some way or ovled out, and even ovled out, here is a little trick. You can get a bullet sizer for almost nothing. What you do is if it looks like it is just a little off the round, you run it through the bullet resizer and amazingly enough it will cap it back out. It will round it back out to spec close enough. So, you've got the right idea. Any of those that are especially lead, copper, jacket. Here's a question. Have you been running into any of the politically correct solid bullets? No. I've been finding Russian ammo all over the aluminum shell casing. We pick up the aluminum, take it to the recycler, and take the money and go buy bullets. Exactly. Well, now remember, if it hasn't gotten wet, it is bordam prime, but it is reloadable. The aluminum stuff? Well, if you've got a reloading press. Yeah, but I've heard the cases can split on them pretty easily. Well, they're not good for a whole lot of reloads, but consider this, that what you do, if it's something that you have, like if you have a .38 or a .357 or a 9mm, if you use a standard pin and you just run the aluminum casing through the die, The standard pin will punch through the channel on the base of the case, will pop out the original Butler Dam primer, and typically those are standard size, but if they're a little small, depending on which primer they use for the Laman ammo, you take a primer pocket reamer, just put it inside and twist once, and you'll be to size. You know what Mark? I want you to give me an address and I'll save it up in the box and I'll mail it to you. Well, only if it's something you can use save it because it's again better than you know It's not better than nothing one of the guys went so crude as to do this he goes What can I do if I had nothing if I didn't have any of what I was supposed to have to reload a pistol round? So he took a black black powder uh... cap and ball primer he took a little more than any route to the cap and ball primer uh... use black powder and used uh... three five eight diameter uh... round ball from a cap and ball pistol and uh... uh... and yet they were at what point really pulled the trigger if you want every time now it was a black powder with a cartridge gun but it worked just fine The only thing with black powder though is if you shoot one round off, the one next to it might go off too. It's pretty damn dangerous. No, actually they're okay. That's not going to be a problem. Think about it. I want to say this. Down at Pinto's Gun Shop in Renton, Washington near Seattle. They have some beautiful Hawkins. and old Kentucky style rifles that people have built and unfortunately traded in. I've seen them up to 50 or 53 caliber and they're just pristine. There's something you want to hang over the fireplace that have been built on kits from Italy. But God, they're an amazing work of craft ship. Just amazing. Cap'n ball plus split lock. What's their price range been? $100 to $150.00. Oh yeah, their prices are very reasonable. Again, Pinto's, Gun Shop, Renton, Washington, after Diana Pinto. They'll even mail order. They have an FFL. Well, the Black Putter doesn't require, here's the cool thing, Black Putter doesn't require any paperwork. But I highly recommend, seriously, because for you for taking to the range, number one, you just picked up tons of lead. Obviously you're going through the bullets for reprocessing for the ones that can be reused, and they can be, guys. We've already done the research and then we talked about this on the air. Number two is you've got lots of lead. Now what I would do is separate it, the pistol lead. For instance, that you've got available. Take all your pistol bullets and try to point them towards one bucket. Take the rifle bullets and point them towards another bucket. Now the reason is that with a pistol the Tin and Antimony mix will be roughly the same but it's still going to be a little higher in the tin and the antimony, not so much the antimony, with the rifle bullets typically because they can get away with it. On the other hand, the bullets you'll find that are being cast in the pistol, they don't want to worry about frangibility. So what they do is they keep the lead content spec a little higher. The neat thing is you can take and recast those bullets into round ball or mini ball for your black powder gun. So, you could actually be recasting from what you've already pulled there or from making for any of the other cartridge guns. You want to do patch bullets or whatever. Or just standard cast projectiles. But you've got lots of bullets for you. You've got the primary. You've got lots of lead for your black powder gun. Pick up a gun that's black powder. It's a lot of fun to take to the range and shoot along with whatever else you're firing because it's actually cheaper to shoot now. I want to say, Mark, for guys who are worried about how to pick up lead through soil, you can bring out a gold pan, and you can throw a shovel full in a gold pan and just shake it, and all the lead will drop to the very bottom of the pan. It hits heavier than everything else out there. Oh, yeah. It's amazing. I mean, you can bring a cat litter scoop with you, too. There's so much lead out there that's been shot into the soil in the last 100 years. There's no way the Obama administration would ever be able to stop us. I want to bring this up. Thank you for talking about this because they just had the big machine gun shoot down in Arizona and they have 200 shooting stations and everybody fires over the weekend like at Knob Creek. Is that where they blew a mob in the dinosaur? Yeah, it's out there in the middle of nowhere is the thing. Guys, I will guarantee that nobody has gone for that lead. They've done this for decades down there and it's out in the middle of nowhere. The other thing is, it's like the Rangers were pissing them moaning and I think they made a big mistake because they were pissing them moaning because that same valley people go out there and shoot and, were you bringing junk back with you? Did you pick up brass? They're harassing people. It's like, oh no, you don't understand, fool. I've been going out there and my truck leaves, my troll back in because I guarantee it's just laying everywhere. There are two things that do, just like what you're doing right now. Number one, separate the scrap. If it's aluminum and it's got crushed, bent, or folded, spindle or mutilated, put it in an aluminum barrel. Make up a brass junk barrel for stuff that's just absolutely crushed. Turn that in for cash to buy more components to build up what you really want. Yeah, exactly, but not only that, you get all the reloadable brass, you get all the service brass that's out there, you sort it by caliber. You know, everybody in my family, all my munchkins and several other families here locally, all grew up sorting brass. You can ask Ed. We would get 44 gallon barrels, cardboard barrels of brass at a time. And everybody would learn... Now where is Ed, darn it? Huh? Where is Ed? You do it on yourself. Okay, I get all excited too. Well, you know again I said we had like four munchkins and one of our friends had two and there's a couple other people had three or four and it were one or two depending who it was and what we do is it'd be you know, come over at night and Not necessarily my house we had other places too What we do is just start picking in the barrel and everybody would have a five gallon pail for each caliber and everybody just keep tossing and by the time you were done I'd take very short short work when you got a whole bunch of hands helping But either way, strategically it would make sense if people are worried about bringing it home and it getting confiscated. Phillips and Five Gallon Buckets and put them in different drop sites. Exactly. Anyway. Well, also spread them out because, here's the thing, you'll get everything. You'll get 270, 243. Now you'll find calibers, you'll look at them and go, what the hell is that? I found a Lapuis shell out there. Then you take all the odd stuff and go, I'm never going to use this mark, why would I pick it up? How about because you take it to the traders at the show and you either turn it in like a milk bottle for cash if that's what you want to do or you go to the guy that reloads and he's got brass like this he's been saving and he does when he gets enough of it. You can trade it for that box of 6.5 Chap or that box of 7.35 Carcano that you own, little bit of bucks of it. Well, guess what? Even if it was pricey, even if the guy charges a little more, you got the brass for free. So, it's like, you know, for the time you picked it up, that extra brass, that oddball brass, you route that towards somebody, you know where it's going to be put to use. The good thing is, it goes to a guy that will use it, and another guy that will shoot it. Go ahead, Mark. I want to mention, get down at ground level, squat down, and get down to where you can look very carefully at the area in the circle around yourself. And you'll start to see, if you're looking carefully, odd shapes that don't look natural. And they're usually bullet shells lying there that have become vertigrisp, kind of a greenish blue, because of the copper reacting with the atmosphere. Oh yeah. Yeah, they dig down and find a shell that can be tumbled. Well, you know, it's interesting too, battlefields. If the battlefield is really in an obscure location, we know beyond a shadow of doubt that brass will last for well over 100 years on the surface easily. And it's fascinating, at the Custer Battlefield, you know, Little Bighorn, we were there on the 100th anniversary, and you could walk but we are there that there is a walk that goes from a service center with a cemetery the national cemetery is it goes up to the very top where the kustar monument is the battlefield monument Guys, when you went back in 1976, it was the anniversary of the battle, 100th anniversary. We didn't plan this, it was by accident. We just happened to be there that day. Hottest day of the year than 100 years. It actually was exactly the weather, which was miserable, over 100 and some degrees, guys. As we walked up the walkway, if you looked into the grass where the burial site is, At that point in time you could still see the thousands of rounds of brass that had been shot. Now it's fascinating because they actually said when they evaluated the battlefield back when the actual battle took place, guys it was stated that every existing cartridge in manufacture at that time had been in North America or on the planet was at that battlefield. Literally, they found 44 Russians, they found cartridges that had to have come from trade and been sold out of the country. They found stuff from Eastern Asia, they found stuff from South America, there were rounds from everywhere. Because the traders with the Indian nations had traded weapons all over the place. The obscure stuff was coming back in and it was traded and traded and traded back across the continent. That's what was actually on the battlefield. The brass, they said you could just walk on the ground. You were walking on brass initially. It is interesting that 100 years later you could walk along and you could see the cartridges still sitting there and the arrowheads. They said the arrows were so thick that again these guys carried away souvenirs left and right but the arrowheads were just everywhere. It used to be they let people walk through the area but they didn't want people carrying away any more of the guys that were running the park. who are a lot more decent than the goofs we got nowadays. What's interesting is they were talking and I said, oh yeah, we just let people walk through the cemetery area, but we put the walkway in because people were just starting to carry so much away, especially where it's becoming more antique. They didn't want anybody carrying anything off of the site, the historical site. But they still didn't put a fence up or anything. You just walked by and you could see laying 10 feet away from the walkway guys, the cartridges were laying right there. Ain't nobody throwing them out there. There are no many target practicing out there in the middle of nowhere in Little Bighorn. Trust me. You always have such great stories. You always have such great stories. We know you're real. It also gives us an idea about, again, we think that, well, I dropped it, it's lost or gone. The other reason I bring it up, guys, I've had 100 men walk along and when the Gerber knives first came out, everybody had to have a Gerber Mark II. Well guys, that's back in the 70s when a Gerber Mark II cost like $68 to $100 and a $68 to $100 it took a lot more to earn $68 to $100. You appreciated it a lot more. Now we're back to that because of the depression we're in now. Well, a guy would drop a knife and he goes, well that's lost and I said stop. And this is years ago I'd say that knife's not gone. Okay, when did you notice that knife disappeared? He goes well, I was walking or we've been walking here and I think about back around that first over that first Rally point you designated I said okay stop turn around everybody walk back the way that you came cross country and What we did is basically using the manpower we had it took about four minutes We had that knife back in hand sure enough about and I would say quarter of a mile along his path, sure enough there it was, laying on the ground. Now his logic and his mind was, well, it's gone. And you know, the thing is, we went back, we recovered it, it only took a minute, and now we have that big chunk of real estate, that expensive piece of weaponry back in hand. And this is true with everything. A lot of times you'll drop stuff and people get frustrated. Stop and think. There's only so much below your feet. All you have to do is freeze. Even a needle, even a pin, I don't care what it is. It's there. And the amazing thing is everybody also forgets, you know what, you might be the lucky person to find it and step on it later. So maybe it would be a real good idea even if it's in your yard. You don't want any person to find it next year, Rusty. So it's just the idea that we think, I don't know, it's weird the way people have been conditioned to that. Here we have, like you said, laying under your feet, there is a treasure sitting there. It is either raw materials that you can recast or in this modern age for the moment, if it was a rustic condition, we would recast it. We would rebuild it. We would do something with it. The very fact that you can pick up 22 hemo, even if they are dead, you can pull them apart and take the powder out of them. Oh yeah, and the bullet. And then pull it. Yeah, exactly. There is a treasure out there. All people have to do is just get down on the squatting position and just look around carefully and it will just start to show up right in front of your very eyes. Move a little soil. It's amazing how much stuff is out there. It's interesting you brought this up today because I've been outside working and there is a range we have that we've been harvesting, we've been talking about. I was thinking we should have gotten back there last week. But again, we're getting close to the snow season, guys. We're going to lose the opportunity and we're heading into winter. So we've got to go over and harvest at least a couple more times before the snow flies. And those sites, like you said, are just so... We've been so wealthy. This is what happened out of the 60s. And when the 70s hit, all of a sudden, as soon as the Gun Control Act of 1968 hit, Guys, by 1975-76, everybody was sucking vapors. Everybody was so used to shooting, blazing away with ammunition, that all of a sudden when they cut it off, the US manufacturers didn't increase production. They didn't start cranking out more. And so all the surplus and all the spare stuff from overseas just started to trickle off year by year by year. By 1975-76 and then 1977, there wasn't anything to shoot. And that's when all of a sudden we said, well, man, we got to get back into reloading. And the good thing is that all these guys that have been doing it, they got it in. Before we get to the top of the hour, I wanted to bring this up. I tried to bring it to your attention this morning in the chat room on the micro effect. I put it up there when we logged in before, but were you aware that the Army Ammunition Action Facility went boom yesterday? I saw that I didn't get a chance to pull the rest of it up. That was okay. What happened is a depot of failure They actually had an explosion of fire. Yeah, that's what they're saying a Number of the employees were injured. Nobody was killed. They're trying to use this as an excuse to shut down the facility Well, it will be actually they'll have to I'll post the article again in the chat room. It actually came from workers compensation.com is where the article is at Well, one of the things too is they'll have to, what they do because of the policy of handling and handling of ordinance, they're supposed to shut it, they will have an excuse to shut it down because they'll have to do a handling, handling evaluation study to determine what screwed up. You know, was it a mistake in handling storage, something with regard to proximity? There's all kinds of things, but typically again the other consideration with ordnance and even with not with small arms I'm not worried about pistol rifle shotgun guys, but with ordnance that has timers or fusing systems Sometimes people don't design things right or what happens is age takes its toll and because dissimilar metals are used in fusing systems that where they sometimes shouldn't be because of contractors What happens is a piece of metal will actually through electrolysis will actually react to another piece of metal. The metal disintegrates inside the fusing system and it may cap it. It may activate it. That's something that would not happen in the past. In fact, you're much more careful of that in World War I than say World Post or World War II because of crisis, you know, crisis production where countries... Very good. And that's one of the things that usually gets things going is something where a fusing system on a larger piece of ordinance, a mortar round or an artillery shell or chemical ordinance device. You know, you're bringing up a good point, Mark. I was reading on YouTube that one can make a pretty good asset for cleaning up brass out of hydrogen peroxide and household vinegar. Yes, two parts vinegar the one part hydrogen peroxide and and if you want to get the process going fast you add a car battery to that you know in a in a pyrex glass container The cathode and stuff will disintegrate pretty rapidly but overnight you can literally melt metals down to almost salt When you're taking all that old brass off the range if you don't have a means of cleaning, it's a great way to do it Well, one of the things there too, remember it depends on how dense the material is. What you want to do is an inspection, like you said. If you've got stuff that's been laying in the ground, make sure that you're not wasting resources. You can do a quick thumbnail roll. If you have anything where there feels, again, it's common sense. If it feels like it's soft or if you get some kind of brittleness area, obviously that's junk. So that goes into your scrap brass for melting. Otherwise, unless there's some major dimple, dent or crush point, pretty well it should clean up nicely. The big thing is, again, once you're done with your immersion bath like that, we're using chemical wash, the next step is to do a hot, hot water bath. Just do your chemical wash and then have another tank. And you know what's really cool, if you go to YouTube, these guys are getting real, these people are just ingenious. You can find old coffee makers everywhere. and you have a water reservoir, a heating system, all kinds of basic components there. One of the guys doing electroplating was using a coffee pot to heat the immersion material. Another guy was, you know, every one of them is an example of necessity being the mother of invention. But also, it's the idea, look at all this stuff, when you go to the scrap yards, or a lot of scrap yards are been told not to let people get stuff because they don't want us to be creative. Most of those are now run by people who are from the government. A lot of people don't realize that. We've got a couple places here, they're ring knockers. Normally scrap yards would sell the stuff back out because there's stuff that goes to the scrap yards that's brand new. Literally it never issued. Or is viable material? Well they know this. Why would a scrap yard care if they charge you more than they're going to get for the scrap weight if it goes to the actual final yard? Why would they not want to sell you the metal back? The only reason they're doing that is because they've been told by the shysters, by the system, the racketeers, don't let the goy, don't let the crazies, the animals, get hold of anything. And we've already pretty well benchmarked this over and over again when many yards are being taken over. They're not the old shinies anymore. They're not the people who want to make a buck, and they really don't care. In fact, they like to see some of the stuff you do. Man, I could do that at home. Instead, these are characters who are suit and tie types, they are tied into the government, and their job is to strip the country of resources. That's where, again, guys go to the resale shops. The resale shops, even the recycle stores, while like one in Ann Arbor, has a bin full of electronic stuff like what we're talking about, and you never know what's going to be in there, and they're trashing it. They want to destroy it. Let's put it this way, they're not taking care of it because it's going to go to the junk. But in reality there's your there's your parts yard. You know how many different cell phones I've got out of a bit the bins like that for free and Each one of those cell phones is a camera and each one of those cameras only takes a few moments to get out of the hole and now you have a little fish eye that you can mount to a Sailplane a balloon and all kinds of fun stuff A lot of the cameras and a lot of the stuff that's out there, guys, the only reason why it's one of the trash is because it's not the latest. It's not that it's broken. Hell, how many things I picked out. It's charged up. You hit the power and the battery. Everything works. What if you want to, like friends, you want to do a seeing over the horizon camera. You take a cell phone. It'll activate. It won't hook up to the system, but you don't want it to anyway. But it will record for how many minutes? It's got an onboard recording system. You hook that up to a set of balloons. You put a tether on that. You launch it and it goes up. If you need heating devices for like what you're talking about, shall we? We're looking at chemical processes. You can take a lot of cool junk that's on the shelf and switch it out to other processes. We have a mini, a tactical mini production line. We can cast bullets. Here's another thing, you've got all that lead. I don't want to necessarily let up my barrel, which is what everybody always yaps about. I don't want to use lead bullets. Guys, on YouTube, where you're talking about, they have some excellent step-by-step processes where the guys show you how to make an electroplating machine with a coffee pot and a few other pieces of junk off the shelf out of a resale store. You can go to town electroplating whatever you want. Well, guess what? You can electroplate and Winchester was the first one to really do this heavy. They used what was called lubraplate. They would lubraplate their bullets. What they did is they actually had a compounding material that was bonded to the electroprocess that would actually have a lubricant in it. The thing is, it was a dry lubricant. It was a metallic lubricant. and it would bond to the outer surface along with a copper wash and there would be no copper or leading. So think about that. Again, we just want to put a copper jacket on a lead bullet. What you do is you electroplate it. And it's got a copper sheen to it. You won't find any leading problems. The bullet's only going down that tube once. I wanted to mention one more thing. I ran into a video on YouTube where some guys were making some AP rounds by taking pieces of flint like you'd use in a flintlock and they were drilling small holes in their rifle bullets and super gluing these little pieces of flint in and I didn't believe it but they actually shot some half inch and quarter inch steel plates and got it went right through the stuff. I couldn't believe it with a bow and rifle. Yeah, it actually works like a cutting edge. I could see that happening and again remember the sparks. Yeah, it's only good. It's going to be a one-time obviously, but it's never going to come back anyway. If it's a downrange, if it works on steel, then it will work on body armor. They just may not have any cheap body armor to get rid of. By the way, before I forget, I want to thank you. Boy, you seem to touch connective tissue. I want to mention again, Apex Gun Parts. A couple of guys showed me the last of the Vesta or the latest Vesta that have come in. Guys, I have not seen a vest come out of there that is anything other than very good to excellent condition. Everybody that has bought these vests and several of the guys bought the undercover vest and they bought the police vest, the dark blue or black vest. The ones that apparently the one that he just got did not have a holster, it did have pockets, but it had the radio holster with the elastic keeper on the top. Now this is the cheapest body armor. If you don't have body armor, if your daughter doesn't have body armor, They have armor both for men and for women. I have a source here that basically runs it about this, well actually it got a little cheaper, but he buys all this fed armor. And so Nancy has a vest, my daughter has a vest, and several of other friends' wives have vests, because ladies' armor has to have bumps, okay? and they actually have it. They have women's armor there so you can get, you know, the sizes in the women's armor, you can get men's body armor there, and you're talking about $30 to $40 a vest. You can't beat it. They're in excellent condition. I've now seen them and they try to apologize and go, well, these have had some service, not the ones I've seen. That's a great idea. I believe in England they call those bumps jumblies. My daughter works at a gun range now and she's been ordered to buy one of those. I wrote it down. She has to wear a gun to work because of working at the range. She walked in with a 45-strapped her and they had about seen the night. She's 18 and I just laughed. She knows how to shoot. She's using a 1911? Yeah, it's saved by 6-hour. Okay, excellent. Well, the big thing there is keep buying mags. Obviously, keep buying ammo because right now ammunition is the... 45 ammo is just vaporizing around the country. I've been talking to everybody. The nice thing about it, Mark, is... As I said, you can go out there and pick up 45 slugs and reuse them out in those ranges, the illegal ranges. Secondly, she's doing a little reloading herself and sometimes people will show up with whole busloads like she had some Australians yesterday. 33 of them show up with three people in each lane. They left behind bullets, you know. So rather than reselling, they shoot them off. Or put them in your mag and you've got them on standby. Haha, carry more mags. Well, he's been actually, I'm going to try and alleviate some pressure with a certain project that I've already got going on up by him for his benefit. And if it goes well, then yeah, we're going to make things a little easier for him. Don has been dealing with some family issues too as far as, again, we've got family members that are ill and things like that. It's part of the getting older thing. I wish you and Don would talk more about making homemade ghillie suits too. Well, that's one of the things that we can half out. We are going to be finishing Equipping 3. And just again, a reminder, I've got our helpers that are listening. Everything is scheduled for two weekends out. We're going to finish that, and actually what I'm going to do is do a Gilly Suit production line. And Ed knows I have bales of burlap, and I've faded them intentionally, naturally faded them. Now, they're already in colors. But I've naturally faded them. They've been out in the weather where there's supposed to be some of them. You don't want them to lay out too long because burlap will break down. And a lot of the burlap you're getting right now, if it's from overseas, it's coarse and it's the good hemp. If it's from here, like everything else, it's a blend. There's actually a lot of blends that are made from other weeds along with hemp. So what we've got to be careful of is you want to make sure you don't just leave it out. But, what we're going to do is actually show how to set up a little production line. We used to do this making camo nets the size of radar installations. We'd actually have everybody, oh this will take a long time. No, every day that we have a meeting for one hour of the meeting. Everybody knew this for about one hour. We have a straw boss, I have the scissors there, I have all the materials there, and we'd have a camo net that was 24 by 24. And we would build a camel net that you could gilly suit the car. Let's put it that way. Did it come with a merit match? Yeah. I hope so. Now, if anybody poked themselves with scissors, was there a Purple Heart? Well, actually, we had safety glasses, OSHA helmets. If you have to handle the scissors, we had the OSHA-approved helmets. Oh, no. That's so funny. If you brought your own scissors, we had a grinder off to the side so we would round off the tips because we wouldn't want you to walk and stumble and perhaps stab yourself. I want to add this before you go to break. My daughter also, in making her own ghillie suit at age 8, she went down to a place where you can buy flower arrangement stuff, fake ivy, holly berries, all that kind of stuff. She weaved it into the burlap. And then of course when she took a picture, I couldn't see her against the background of the trees. She made a head piece as well as a super cell. I actually save every fake plant that we can get her hands on. I don't care what it is. It just flowers. If you see somebody throwing one or two away, guys, just make a box and just put them in it. Remember, the flowers usually have leafage and stuff with them too. You don't necessarily look like a bouquet going through the field, but you know those leaves and everything can be cannibalized. That's what you're going to do is pull those in and that can be integrated into the process also. The most important thing is use your brain. There's all this cool stuff that people are nickel and diming away for the moment. which down the road just won't be there because people won't have the nickel and dimes to spend. Well, while people are flush in resources and are tossing stuff out, you take everything they're willing to get rid of. Guys, I can't emphasize that enough because those days are coming to an end. We watched this happen. Everybody forgets. I keep reminding people about the 70s. And the 70s were nothing by comparison of where we are now. We've got all this stuff that they're dumping at us for candy treats, but that's not going to last. And when it gets shut off, it's like I said, you see all these horror movies with the newspapers rolling by? Guys, the newspaper here locally went out of business. There are going to be newspapers to go rolling by because nobody's buying any newspapers. So even the image to make you think, oh look, it's a disaster. There goes the newspaper. Nobody picked it up. In reality, people will be fighting over that scrap of paper for Firestarter. I wish they'd send me more junk mail, but the junk mail is drying up, so there's no fire stuff. How about laundry lint and Vaseline? Oh, exactly. Well, that's the... Belly button lint. Start collecting your belly button lint. Mail it in the mark. Contemplate the belly button and pick it. It is another problem. Why don't you give it to the German guy to make a Vaseline? Oh, by the way, we are at the top. I tell you what, Ed's probably listening there. We're going to go... John, you stay here and close with me. How does that sound? Okay, and we're gonna have music up here to man the new world order and we're gonna win Well, hold on a second. Hold on first of all real quick guys apex gun parts calm apex gun parts calm and that gives There we go. I knew I knew is gonna be there. God bless the Republic God bless the United States of America and the corn cheese death of the New World Order And keep buying Don's go and we shall prevail. Okay, I'll tell you what Shawn. Thank you, sir Alright, and guys, we'll be back here and again the whole idea there, recovering material. Do it good for the environment and great for the rifle, pistol and shotgun shooters. Recover everything you can. We'll be back a little bit, we're going to the top here. Liberty Street Radio, second hour. Bye bye. It's what happened to our pride Since when the free Americans called for the other side It's we sent food to Hitler's troops, our praise the enemy Did all our children die in vain, defending liberty? The spinach men are turning in their graves Washington and Jefferson are crying tears of shame This next announcement