Mark Koernke discussed ammunition supply disruptions caused by the closure of the last U.S. lead smelter in December 2013, drawing historical parallels to 1968 and 1976 when the government attempted to restrict ammunition through lead bans. He recounted his personal experience developing lead-free bullets in the 1970s using alternative materials like aluminum, aircraft rod, and phonograph needles, working with colleagues to create effective projectiles that complied with proposed anti-lead regulations. Koernke emphasized the importance of reloading, scrap material sourcing, and creative problem-solving as preparedness strategies, and warned listeners about dangerous fall weather conditions in Michigan while discussing the broader theme of government overreach on Second Amendment rights.
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One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters. and behind the lines in occupied territories west, southwest, east, and central. It's interesting to us, all micro-effect network in the morning, we're all funny, but in micro stations, CB base stations, and ultra-net technologies east and west of the Mississippi. I mean, to the allusions, you might have some blue skies, you know, blue band over there on the horizon, but it ain't probably too light there yet. Kinda dark this morning, isn't it, kids? who went cold there in Alaska. Well also on the East Coast, the Hallmark Network, from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida, from the bottom of Florida across the Arkansas, from Mexico, out of Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, Oklahoma, big chunk of Nebraska, a whole bunch of Wyoming, to include both Fifth through the Fifth and our rebroadcasters on the, the consortium west side of the state. Colorado, where they're recalling, don't just recall that one punk senator, put a whole bunch of petitions out, get anybody and everybody else to do it, create flack. Remember guys, the desperation on the part of the enemy because you distract them and go after the governor too. Why not? Let the enemy play little Dutch boy. Meanwhile, you focus on that senator with your core people and the rest of the personnel and you get that other senator's plus you also get to recall and maybe get snag a few others. At the very least, they have to spend money and resources trying to defend real estate. The politics and the war of politics. It's a lot of fun. Anyway, waving the left coast where the brown stain diaper, the smelly diaper, and let's not forget, Feinstein, boy, are doing their part to vomit socialism across the left coast. California's Soviet Socialist Democracy beachhead for communist Chinese closure and occupation. And with the debt in California, they'll be walking in with a piece of paper and going, hi Joe, how you go? Check your state. Is that how we shoot you? a world president obama obama comma he said we can have you haha you got a witness about fine-styled well you belong back anyway turning back to the street across the plains lee both of the virgin banks in the city and lighting the smokey slash the blue ridge of the restaurant crews grama teams ok teams and all the other other consortium of retired telecommunications workers bring us to go despite man it is the same out there it's just neutral right now there's no wind still little moisture in the air as far as the humidity but it's not snowing, it's not raining, it's just near staranose. Now we'll get another front end here. Make sure you grab a jacket, take a hat, make sure you've got cold weather gear in the car and a rain slicker, a poncho, whatever you're going to do. The taker's going to shift here in the southern end of Michigan. We're on the Great Wall. You know, remember that song? Yeah, the lake it is said never gives a... Yeah, the record of the Edmund Fitzgerald. Just to give you a little hint. Oh! came down from the north and caused that funnel effect in the Lake Superior and the rest is just for the Edmonton Stereal. That night it was dark. Here in a PRC-77 all the encoding gear. A roll of a roll of wrap, you do a body wrap on it like a blanket. A whole roll of combo wire plus my recon pack and all my TA-56 soaking wet and trying to talk to the Coast Guard cutter drop off personnel in a landing operation that was supposed to be of course wee hours in the morning late at night, wee hours in the morning. And we didn't know it, but that's wild. On the lake, let's put it this way, the lake freighters that were nearby, we were right on the lake. I couldn't figure out when I was walking along with this lightning, it's like, you know, and again, I'm trying to talk, I'm having to repeat everything five, six, seven times. Because the lightning was constant guys. It's not like you had a little interference It's like you had waves of interference artillery interference, you know boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom And then stop for a minute you go blind because it was black You know, you're getting lightning lightning lightning black and then the lightning lightning. It was non-stop Well, I was walking along and I'm talking a headset. I'm trying to figure out what the hell I'm thinking skyscraper What the hell is a building doing out here and I looked to my left and as the lightning is going off and the freighters on the lake where we were were so I mean they knew what was going on and obviously they could hear the radio chatter but they had pulled the boats in the lake boats in right to the shore because we're off a point there's a deep there where they could get really close and I'm looking up on an angle and having to crane my head I could see the side deck of one lake freighter that was to my left you know we're in dunes we're on a along the edge of the water actually on that leeward side away from the shore itself just by 150 yards. And I could look down to the light and see another freighter probably a half mile beyond the first one. And these guys, you know they're terrified when they're doing that guys because they're taking the chance of being beached but I think their logic was, and the common sense was, better to be beached and leave and head for ground than to break into or again be flooded and go baby Jones, you know, good old, you know, this really great lake. Because the bodies don't come up when they go down in the deep spots guys. They just stay down there where, you know, where they were and they get nibbled on things until they're gone. So anyway, again, another point here is where I signal communication this Tuesday. Be prepared for extreme interference. That night was bad. We had injuries, we had three, sixteens, we had one boat, ten-year-old, sick and frat. from the water and the conditions was one of the saltier crews, one of the more experienced crews. That's why they've been given the task of dropping our people off. The crew was down, most of the people around deck couldn't operate. We got one boat in the water and they did land in that weather. So don't say it can't be done. 11 men only in a 16 man craft and they muscled her in and we did the landing, recovered the equipment for the weekend, for the night, for the actually weekend. into the next weekend, into the next week, what time we're done. But that night, the night the administrator went down, we were on the lake and operating. And I saw weather conditions first hand and no. Chop on the water, it wasn't chop, it was the swell. Of course, you're talking high seas guys were impressive to say the least. And the poor activity with logs the size of your couch bouncing with the wake because they're being washed in from shore. You get big trees that drop into the Great Lakes here all the time and they get rolled around and washed around. Oh yeah. Those move around like matchsticks. Anyway, I'm going to go back to this subject here real quick. We are halfway through the first half of the second hour here. I don't want to lose this. Again, for everybody out there, this is Gun Save Lives, save lives dot net, guns dot net. The story is last US sledge smelter to close in December due to EPA might if ammo production. Well, it will. October 28th. You can read the story there again. That's last U.S. led smelter to close in December due to EPA. Might affect ammo production. Now, we'll turn to alternatives, guys, but let me point something out. Are we getting ammunition the way we normally would right now? Do you think that the system is hard pressed because they're scooping up literally everything they can in the way of materials? Now, let me give you a little hint as to what's probably going to happen here. If raw, fresh production is not available, needless to say, they will go to more of the alternatives and they'll start scarfing up what's left of the surplus industry from the scrap industry, you know, scrap dealers. This will scour the market, will scour the supply system. Don't be surprised if there isn't a significant shift within commodities as of December with regard to lead inside the US. going to be a reason everybody will be looking for it and they're going to consume it it's coming assuming a mask off you think the bullet producers are cranking out everything they can failure and they already know so they're probably already quietly turning to the rest of the industry and starting what they can get their smart probably they're also doing every last order they can from this company uh... in herculaneum uh... right now i mean the record point where they close the doors on everything out of that place they can get at the present market price if they're smart now who knows maybe they're too busy thinking about the things i don't know but we have this happened this is not first time that the shicers the uh... phil the debtors to the debris the pieces of trash that make up the communist trying to ban guns in american ammunition that they've come at this before this nineteen seventy five nineteen seventy six bicentennial year Jimmy Carter comes into power. Jimmy Carter, Mr. Peanut, is a rapidly anti-gun hater. Oh, but he does dog hunting. He always does that BS. I have the shotgun. Well, yeah, but they have a shotgun and you do what Biden says and they arrest you. Okay, I was just shooting the air. So anyway, in 1976, Carter comes in and of course they think they can do an end run around ammo. Now let's put this into historical context. 1968, Gun Control Act is passed. importation of any cheap ammunition ceases to exist. Everybody was used to feeding. Oh, does this sound familiar? Does this sound familiar? I'm going to ask you again, does what I'm going to tell you sound familiar? 1968, they cut off ammunition. Now, Bo Bummer's doing the same thing, but he's not the only one. They were doing this, and have been doing this progressively through treating and through policy within the bat faggot and within the border control operations. But in 1968, everything got cut off. Inter Arms was the only company bringing any surplus in and the price had quadrupled. Okay. Now 1968, 1969, 70, 71, 72, each year more people or a lot of people were shooting. People were buying ammo. People were building stuff up. People were, you know, looking at the threat and were buying accordingly. People were getting ready, you remember, in the early 70s for a civil war in this country. A real, kick-and-many-are civil war that included the US military ready to go to war in 1972-73. based upon a whole lot of things going on. Well by 1976 a lot of the inventory had been consumed. Internal production was told not to keep up. In fact they intentionally wanted to retard production. So what did they do? Oh Jimmy Carter came up with this and he didn't do it. Mr. Peanut, just like this fool we got in White House right now, old bad ears. Bad ears doesn't think anything up. He's an idiot. Go play golf, go play basketball. There's a classic example of idiots. Idiots are them, okay? So, Mr. Basketball is doing the same thing. He's just meat puppet for whoever's behind the scenes. So, they thought, oh, this is what we'll do. We'll do an end run around the Americans. We'll ban lead, and that'll ban bullets. Oh, boy, that'll get rid of the rest of the bullet production in America. Oi, oi. And they did guys, the propaganda, go get, here's the way to do this, go get your 1976 collection or 77 collection of the American Rifleman off the shelf, go find some copies, start reading the legislative alerts, read Time Magazine for the same window, read Newsweek, you can go to library, do some research on this. all of a sudden they discovered LITT is evil! And not only that, but then they had cartridges, they showed a bullet, nah, the evil lead, blah blah blah blah blah. And one of the reasons that your steel ammunition was mandatory for ducks, because, oh, the ducks are eating the lettuce, which was all BS. That really was, that was a crock from the get-go. You already seen global warming in that scam, so now you understand on what scale, to what scale, to which doctor's sciences worked. all bs from the get go well anyway the one of the attacks was on lead this led that will then they said they were going to ban lead in all the full belt on one hand popular bullets right which was caught funny or not because you see body armor is there to come out in force that already had military body armor for years guys second chance was built right here in michigan in fact a lot of us went to school with the guys who all that second chance which ain't that big and the colleges, especially for chemistry and physics and the sciences, a lot of guys met each other at one time or another. The world was a little smaller in many ways. And so everybody through the shooting sports and because body armor and shooting sports kind of go together, people knew each other. So anyway, they started to push the, get the lead out, get the lead out, ban the lead. Well, immediately it's like, oh, you mean to say that you're gonna force us to start making more of our own? Now, already reloading was coming into its own because everybody realized there wasn't gonna be any ammunition on the horizon, and there wasn't. Ammunition inventories were totally depleted. Guys, there was no- now, first of all, you gotta remember, the AR-15 was starting to show up in private hands in good quantity. That's why it became the evil weapon in all propaganda movies in Hollywood. Right next to the Uzi was the M16 kind of rifle. evil evil well guys there was a two to three m one surplus it was a fairly new rifle it was military and there was a military surplus there may be stuff guys carried away from the garden such and maybe showed up a little bit of that it otherwise you bought spent brass yet make your own or buy factory new from remington or winchester or federal okay So reloading started to be on the upswing. Well, the cool thing is because of that, we also had the advantage of the automotive industry in Michigan. We had machinists and tool and dime and skilled trades everywhere. Retired skilled trades. We still wanted to play with stuff. And so we sat down and a friend of mine, Jeff, myself, they said, hey, what a fan. Lead bullets? Well, we have to find a solution. Let's have some fun. Now, this is where ballistic gelatin first started to come in, guys. So between the body armor and ballistic gelatin, we actually have made torsos. I use dearest dearest, actually what I did is I used deer rib cages, you know, from Cadet, you know, bodies out in the field. You'd find them all over the place where, you know, people, you know, run over them and stuff like that. Well, we wait in the critters, small critters, the bugs, and whatever, they clean the carcass. So we'd have all these ribs to use. So I cast and made torsos with, you know, basically ballistic gelatin for the outside area and then threw some blob gelatin and milk cartons on the inside to create organs. Then we take the second, the best, the blem vest from second chance, something where it had been turned back in or something that was damaged and they were given to us by the company and what we started to do is we started developing new bullets. Now let me tell you without using a drop of lead we took a Hornady jacket, actually a Hollow Point jacket in 357 and we took smelted garbage aluminum. In other words, aluminum cans, anything we could find that was low end, hot, you know, quick melt, porous, porous aluminum. There's a lot of stuff like that where it's chipped and it's infusion cast. But then we went to the aircraft industry. And we went and we got aircraft aluminum drive rod. Highest end, highest tensile strength, tough as, in fact, you make the hells out of them. little hint for a while they experimented with making fire that takes a lot of shock well what if you take and make a core dart that's about old 25 caliber and you lay that in the middle of that jacketed hollow point cup now you don't even let in that cup because this you're getting these right from Hornady I actually got it from Spiritoo we got him a second yo I love the seconds industry mark loves clearance anyway We turned around and we centered that rod and then we poured molten aluminum around it. Now there was not a drop of lead in this bullet, guys. Weighing at about 85 for the low end for the 380 holes. Alright, forgive me, correction, correction. Weighing 65 grains approximately for the 380 holes. Weighing at about 85 to 96 grains, depending on how we projected that little, that core rod. uh... we didn't want to extend to partners got built that standard chambers got a worker we'll go on to work and nine millimeter pistol separate the three five seven diameter jacket guys well anyway we've got it centered we made a whole batch of these we brought out mister second chance threat level to be armor and of course we didn't get hold stuff like a first of all we do bench testing with everything so we got ourselves get a nice height of three fifty seven magnum six and we loaded up some three five seven medium low Nothing fish, you know, I don't want to flamethrower it. I'm not trying to push this thing 4,000 feet per second though We could and what we did is we turned around we fired on that ballistic torso that we created guys It was like butter. It was like butter the projectile hit the center core rod Eats its way through the body armor the aluminum hyper activates because of friction becomes molten and lubricates the aluminum rod as it goes through the body armor. The cup of the hollow point slaps the back and pushes it through. Then on top of everything else, the kinetic energy available then because it shears the jacket, the copper jacket, the pure copper jacket, it then sucks the copper jacket through the channel and hits the ballistic gelatin like a hand grenade. when we lifted the vest it was like wow this is neat little like really hole with a daisy cutter all the way around the hole and we lifted up the body armor flap on the front we looked at the inside it's like oh my god we but it hit one of the ribs and that just shattered it into pieces and filament fragments and that went into all the other organs along with all that spewed aluminum which was molten the rod which was solid which went through anything it hit and the copper jacket which was sucked through the wound channel it fragged and went through like a frisbee with steak knives on the end of it. It was horrific. We just had to try that again. So we put the armor back down, we adjusted the bullet, you know the pistol and its frame because we had a pistol, you know, a frame for testing. We don't, we can put this to my hand, are you crazy? Anyway, we fired again. And we thought, let's do that again in part again. Hey, this is working great. So after we did the first six rounds and then the next six rounds, we decided that this was too good to be true. Well, it was better than we expected. And the cool thing is it conformed to Feinstein and all the other... Oh, that name! Oh, that's right. All these pieces of trash. This was their... Their trek was to ban all lead bullets. And they were going to do this for all this BS, regulation, and, you know, through the agencies. We spread the word and sent this design everywhere. Guys, we also came up with several others that were really cool, because you could use bronze, you could use brass, you could use copper for the core penetrator. And they also said they wanted aluminum. This was the thing, forgive me, I should have added that. One of the things they said, well, you can make bullets out of aluminum. And we said, really? Now, people, we really thought about this being the direction to go, but once we looked at it, it was like, oh, you're right, we can make it about aluminum. That's really mean. Now, there's a reason for that. Remember when you lighten the bullet up, you could increase velocity, but you have to be careful because, remember, air friction will melt things in flight. The cool thing is, is we were pressing close to M16 load velocities out of a hand cannon with a 6 inch barrel, a Colt Python, 1971 production. And we tested many other weapons. Smith and West Model 27, then we of course went to, you know, actually a blank barrel, made up a rifle barrel, loaded it up, and also did a 9mm. We used a commando Mark IV and tested a magazine full of 9mm using the same load. Oh my goodness, we sheared, shredded, and could have cut off if we'd been paying attention, we could have cut the best right in half, sheared, and it would have cut the operator in half too, the target. But as it is, anywhere we hit, it just cut it right on through, cookie-cuttered everything, and it didn't go out the back, so I guess you'd say it was a home defense safety load. It wouldn't go out the back, because once it hit the armor up front and started the process, it would just tear, shear, and destroy. So if they want to ban lead, if they really, really, really want to ban lead, the best thing you can do is start talking about research into aluminum. brass. Oh, you can think about this. You can think about a bi-metal projectile where you can take other malleable metals and apply them with another malleable metal along with a jet copper jacket and body armor ceases to be an issue. Oh, if they want to do that, we'll show you how to do it real quick. Give them a lot of fun in the process. So there's tons of, oh yeah, scrap of material. By the way, more on that in a minute here, but we're going to go to the bottom of the hour break because I know we should hear the music. It is the very bottom of the second hour. We might even hear the low when we're done after this break. We're heading to the bottom of the hour and it is Communications Tuesday. So I can communicate in so many interesting ways that it's a lot of fun. I do, I hear that piano. We're going to be back in just a little bit here. Sam McCain. You can remember him and a whole lot of other good men. Now I'll remember Jeff and his dad, the mad scientist who helped us to create a round that totally changed the politics for a bit. Well, they're back again. Fantastic, guys. We're short on ammo. We're short on components, you better start learning to build yourself and pull it from all the places you can find strapping goodies laying around. We'll be back in a few minutes here, add that cup of coffee, take off, you got a little work? The mic's perfected, it's Tuesday. Regardless of the dollar price involved, one ounce of gold would purchase a good quality man suit at the conclusion of the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, the presidency of Franklin Roosevelt, and today. You may not be in the market for a new suit, but you don't know what the future may bring. Gold is the one financial constant the world has ever known. It can always provide you with your basic needs. Whether you're looking for junk silver, old silver dollar rolls, gold bullion or fractional tradable gold pieces, Kettle Moraine is your full service representative with over 50 years of knowledge and personal experience. Visit flyingeaglegold.com or call us at 623-327-1778 today for competitive prices on all your gold or silver needs. If you're looking for real financial insurance, call Kettle Moraine today at 623-327-1770. 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We now return you to the regular schedule program already in progress. that another one you're gonna like if you like that piece another song by the same artist called breakfast in hell unique again americana has that you feel to the music doesn't it guys change there and how that song might sound in fact that might even be in motion by our little production operation be real fun to yeah especially with the pick of the battle lie and a little modification they definitely we're gonna actually the artist actually has been approached about this too and you know problem with it but going to be fun to see how it ends up. We'll see again. And if you're going to be listening to that artist and you like him, one of the other songs that definitely is unique is Breakfast in Hell. Get a chance to listen to it there. Real cool. Prop Friends from Canada. They will kind of appreciate it too. Anyway, it is a beautiful, oh it is a grave. It actually is a nice day as far as temperature goes, but that's tricky here in the fall guys in Michigan. You know, it's nice. I'm going to run out there with my light jacket by the end of the day. First rain, then sleet, then snow. Now it doesn't stick. It's not going to stick. Guys, I can go outside and I can put a shovel in the ground everywhere. So it's not going to stick. But this is the kind of weather that will get you hurt. if you're not paying attention so please i cannot emphasize not that you've ever had deal with cold casualties hypothermia doesn't have to be in the middle of sub-zero weather in arctic expedition wall doesn't work that way kids the matter of body temperature loss and that can happen so easily you get wet you get cold you may die At the very least, let's put it this way. You might get the twos from the chattering by the time you're done if you survive it, but you know, you kind of go off into sleepy land after a while. And that's not exactly what we want to be part of. That's what I'm saying. Cold will kill you in a way... You know, it's really bizarre. If you get burned, the pain is horrific real quick. Unless it's a burn that's too, too deep and then there's no nerve endings for a bit and eventually the pain does catch up. It's when they're doing the debriding, they're taking the flesh and the skin back off because they don't need any infections. So you get to suffer from that pain day after day after day. Anybody who's been to burn center knows that. Everybody goes, well, I'd rather freeze to death, which is true. The cold part about freezing to death is you kind of fade off. Although there's that delirium part they never show you in Hollywood where you might go a little crazy in the head and do things you really don't like that hurt. off into that we think however it's strange again with nature and with the body that god gave us that when you come back from something like that have you ever had frostbite just like burning if you freeze and you come back their body parts if you thought burning was bad but that somebody get you in the lead in molten lead we were talking about earlier you'll swear you were gifted molten lead he is not the quality of the new really didn't hurt lol hey Hey Fred, come on, pull him out of the snowbank. Oh, his head first, all he saw were his legs. He's still breathing. But his fingers ain't looking good and his nose and ears don't look too happy and... Oh man, yeah, well you know what? They'll bring you back and you'll know it. It's the waking back up part. What'll wake you back up? Robbing fiery pain. It's bizarre. Either way, well I'm not burning the death. Oh no, don't move. But the body's trying to keep itself alive and the sensory system is gonna let you know about injuries and your nervous system is real good for that. So just a warning, let's prevent that kind of pain. Okay, please, let's prevent that kind of pain and death if at all possible. Death can be prevented and a lot of extreme pain can be prevented by the P principle. Prior proper planning prevents piss, okay. Got that in? I'm emphasizing it for a reason. This is the most dangerous season of the year as far as I'm concerned. Going in the spring? No, no, no, no. You're already freezing your arse up. You know what it's like. So you still got that cold sensor thing up. Fall is the most dangerous because everybody grossly underestimates because they get into comfort mode. They get into not paying attention mode. And that could mean or death mode we don't want to see that happen anyway let's go back to lead and bullets well in 1977 guys all the BS you know gotta ban the lead bullets gotta get lead bullets off the go we need old lad all the same mr. peanut the first the first version of Bill Clinton yeah yeah let me give you Jimmy Carter Well, Jimmy, of course, hated guns. And so I ever tried everything they could to ban everything they could. They couldn't get the gun banned through. But they used all of their multi-faceted alphabet soup foreign agencies registered over the part of the private corporate whore operation, EPA, FBI, ETF, all those corporate whores. They used all they could to attack every way they could. And in the process of course lead was one of the things well we developed this bullet that design and what he only one But this was the best one guys. This is one of those where it's like it conformed all the regulations They set up a copper jacket in fact We even designed it so that you could use an alloy jacket anything else you believe what said it's called all the aluminum Well, we actually made a cast aluminum with a what I kept a tap basically it became a tack however, it was three pieces the This base was an aluminum tap that we got from a machine shop over... actually, they had the... I wanna need tap. Guys, when you do stamping, you get scrap, okay? You get kajunkajunkajunkajunkajunkajunkajunkajunkajunkajunk and there's, you know, they punch holes in things. If you take a look at anything that's a stamped piece of metal, if it's done from sheet metal and they'll be doing a stamp it, okay, the die strikes and does cookie cutters. It does all kinds of things. It shapes the metal, forms the metal, arcs the metal and puts holes in the metal. Well, from this spot, you know, again, we've been the age of industry, and again, the idea is do it from junk. You don't do this from, you go, oh, I gotta spend a billion dollars. No, think junk. Think, take stuff that's free or cheap and make it into something valuable, okay? So there was a plant over in Troy, Michigan that did aluminum. And we thought, wow, let's go talk to the aluminum guys. So we do, do, do, do, do, do, got the car we'd done, you know, was, in 94, you know, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do Then it stopped in, you know, took over the, hey Fred, how you doing? Oh yeah, usual blah blah blah. Making parts for the auto industry, blah blah blah. Hey, can we look at your scrap and see what you got? Well sure, Mark. Well, what are you guys doing? Jeff, what are you guys up to? Mark and Jeff are up to no good. And so I was like, well, here's what's going on. And we told them about the lead van and they're like, yeah, you're right, that's really, oh buggers. well we've got some ideas and he was smiling he could really well there's crap and so there's these barrels where they catch the widgets stuff coming off the machine to come to come to come and we found this perfect almost three five seven actually three five six to three five seven ever could only punch you know you get old bearings uh... three five six three five seven diameter if the about polo and it was only about the sixteenth of an inch thick and it was solid and it was all consistent and there's barrels up them and he goes, what are you going to do while we take them to scrap it? Obviously it goes back and they make new aluminum for us. And it's like, cool, can we have some of this? He goes, well grab a five gallon pail and take all you want. And they go, well, that'd be nice, we could use a bunch, but we don't need quite that much yet. Let's get a coffee can. Got a gallon jugger or coffee can so we could open up a milk jug. I know it was a Corox jug. and you know what scooped up what we needed there made sure it was clean, basically looked like a quark chuck god knows what was actually in that I don't know but anyway, and it wasn't costly because we didn't lose any fingertips anyway we filled that up with aluminum tabs and we went on our way and meanwhile we could ask you hey you know we're looking for rod he goes nah I don't do anything like that but I'll tell you what here's a company that I deal with aluminum in and they've got everything hey over 400 grains of aluminum aluminum and in all kinds of stock. In other words, all kinds of shapes, guys. So we went over to the aluminum guy over in Inkster. Inkster was, of course, crime zone. And today it's a crime zone, but back then it was, well, a little wealthier, but still a crime zone. So anyway, went over there, said, hi, guys, looking for something that's going to fit inside one of these. Pulled up a projectile and they looked at it. And we looked at the little piece of aluminum cap that we had, little piece that was like a, you know, again, a little cutout. It looked like a little like a coin and he goes, well, hold on. He goes, well, you could do this. This is aircraft rod. We use this for specific aircraft components, for drives and for actually threading, et cetera, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I said, well, how durable is he? He goes, oh, this is like your high rate AAA stock here, guys. This is upper end. I said, that's what we need. Can we get some? How much do you want? They said, well, we're going to do a research project here, so give me about four feet. How's that sound? You got any pieces that somebody cut down or sent back? We'll give you a deal on that. What are you doing with it? Oh, we're making aluminum bullets. And they said, what? And so then we told another guy in the industry that had nothing to do with bullets. We said, hey, didn't you hear? They're going to try to ban lead. Blah, blah, blah. He goes, oh, you can have this for free. Thank you very much. Because what it cost us, probably $40, $50 for the piece of stock. And so we went back, jumped the car, and then we do do do do do do do do do back down 994 to our little mad scientist shop. And we began to grind and then we began to cast. We heated up some aluminum in our little micro smelter. We took aluminum cans, we got some pieces of car parts, and we little pieces. We busted them up with a hammer and we put them in the little smelter. And we got everything going. We had to get our eye protection on because she was a mad scientist time. So then we took a machine mold that we had made by one of our... I worked at Ford Motor Company and we created a die. Now we took that little aluminum cap, put it in the bottom, we centered the... and then we cast the aluminum around it. Then when we got it out of the mold, because we used the rod, they actually work as a handle guys. This was prototyping. We're not making production yet. Production means we cut it. We cut it to spec once we know what length we need. So we made our first production bullet aluminum cast with aluminum base with aluminum aircraft drill rod basically and Then we nipped off the end very carefully very delicately, you know We used a Dremel tool not a saw and now we had this aluminum projectile in three five seven diameter Well this completely conform to the anti lead crews Agenda and the first of course is just a production test what we did we stuck it in our three five seven put it in our Python, which by the way the Python was available, Smith model 27 was mine. Anyway, we initially we used a, see we could do with, in fact we used a unique a couple of times with other loads progressively. We actually used about seven or eight different research powders for this, but anyway we got everything loaded up and we capped the hammer and boy she just, we had a chrono back with nobody actually we had to build our chronograph. Went to Eastern Michigan University, talked to one of the guys who was a lab professor found some junk that he had and we built a chronograph. Actually he helped us build it and when we told him what we were doing he said, oh hell yes, oh hell yes. Because this guy was pro firearms too, he was a gun. And so we had all these people from all these different industries who all got their act together and all helped out in so many different ways. By the time we were done we had a batch of 50 produced prototype bullets. First test round worked flawlessly. We chronographed out at about 2,900 feet per second. Oh, you heard me right! 2,900 feet per second. Why? Well, you see, we had a Magnum charge. We had a Magnum primer. We had a Magnum case. But we had a bullet that was about, oh, two-thirds. Now, the problem with this guy is, again, remember, air friction. The greater the air that it has to cut at higher velocities, the more you're building up calories on the outer hull of that bullet. But the outer hull of that bullet was, oh, that's right, cast aluminum. So a little tougher than lead, but not much. Anyway, what happens is when you push something to those velocities, it becomes demimoltant. So if you thought that that jacketed copper bullet was hellacious, using the aluminum button on the base, that became the pusher to shove all the material down the tube. And that cap, that base cap, stayed with the round because it was cast into, of course, that aluminum slurry to make the outer hull. When it hit the body armor, it went through one side and slapped everything, sucked the base through and turned it into a conical. Went through all the ballistic gelatin on the inside and impacted and stippled and literally stapled the body armor to the back of the experimental torso. We had so much fun looking at that and not wanting to do anything more that we just simply dumped the next five rounds in. And we said, wow, we need to make lots more of these. Now, here's a little thing. We decided, you know, people around the country may not be able to get aircraft aluminum rod, but they should be able to because it's out there in the market. The aircraft industry at that time was fairly big. America is now, of course, when that can get screwed across the board. All these conglomerates have destroyed most of American industry, so it's going to be a little tougher but not much. But don't worry, back in the 70s, guys, we could get phonograph needles. Yeah, you heard me right. Real phonograph needles. You know from the Victrolas? You see, I've got about a thousand sitting off to my left through two walls in the house you're right now. Okay, in the building right here. And what we did is we said, wow, if we can't get a drill rod, what can we do? What can we find that's case hardened that'll create a penetrator dart? And the phonograph needles work flawlessly. we've entered them we cast the aluminum around that and we try that it was like all man this is like that question probably talked about back in the early sixties if they were developing man this one in the front of the body armor went through a bone went through all the organs without the back end and you know stippled into the impact area which was uh... duraloid we actually had some love to avoid material that was designed to the high-impact uh... uh... molly metal there's a panel that and then beyond that there's actually a behind impact like wrestling poem and we had them begging me on that the idea was we were going to catch a bullet matter what we need to get away from us well the dark stippled into the metal behind the two panels body armor one of the front through torso through the back so we know the other side of it out that the troll of needles are excellent dark penetrators when properly apply all this with stuff off the shelf, junk that people cast away, and it completely conforms to the, we cannot use lead bullet program that the shysters were pushing. Well, we spread that around the country and it wasn't the age of computer guys, so we just used the shooter network. We went to one of the national matches, gave everybody all the information that we'd done as a white paper, spread it everywhere we could, sent it to people who were reloaders everywhere by no computer, there was no computer back in the day, this was all done by mail. Well all of a sudden the word got out. It was like yeah go ahead and ban the ball, lead bullets, it'd be a great idea. Watch and see what we can do. And whatever metal you try to spec out, I hate to tell you we can match it and we can make it work for it. And you'll wish to God we were using lead bullets with jackets again. And we boasted, it's always said, good, go ahead and do it. Yeah, we can do this now. We got it worked out. Everybody else will do it too. And guys, remember, once you share the information, it planted a million seeds. And oh boy, reloaders across America had a million little factories producing all kinds of cool stuff based on the idea that, why, we got to get ready for them trying to screw us. Let's screw them back. All of a sudden, they just kind of clammed up and backed off on the lead scam. Yeah, this is all history in America you're not supposed to know because everything is lost in time and nobody records stuff the way they're supposed to and blah blah blah. Well a first person witness so don't say it can't be done. We did it all with junk. We did it all with stuff. We actually, the reason we used the different powders, I was looking for the cheapest powder we could find. For our reloaders out there you always do that. Find the cheapest ink and powder you can find for the most money. Back in the day we could get some of the surplus pistol powders for as little as $1.10 to $1.25 a pound. In fact, if we bought in bulk, it was 75 cents a pound. How many pistol rounds you can make at 75 cents a pound? Wow, dudes. Yeah, the age of surplus. There's still surplus out there, but more of it's gone now because we've got to eat it all up. We're going to the top of the hour break here. Creativity, guys! Let the creative juices flow! Remember, we can mine all of the impact areas for lead across the country. What about down there in Arizona where they just had the big shoot up out in the middle of nowhere? Yeah, some people might have picked up the brass. What about going after all that lead? We don't sell it for surplus or scrap, guys. We use it to make more bullets to put in the bad guys. God bless the Republic, just in the world order we shall prevail. The Empire's on the run. We're in a march. We'll be back in a little bit. Grab that next cup of coffee smell. Taste French roast. Oh, it will get you every time. We'll be back here at microfected on the Intel report coming up right here. 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