October 25, 2013
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1h 8m
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2013
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On October 25, 2013, Mark Koernke and Butter Knife hosted the evening Quartermaster's Corner episode, focusing on preparedness supplies and economic theory. They discussed ammunition availability and pricing trends, gas mask procurement (particularly the Finnish M61 and filters from vendors like Numbrich Gun Parts), and shotgun reloading components. Callers asked about filter shelf life and the status of the 'Equipping' video series. In the final segment, Butter Knife presented a theory distinguishing between low-margin and high-margin economies, arguing that the U.S. operates under a high-margin system with significant overhead and barriers to entry, which he planned to continue the following week.
- ammunition pricing
- gas masks
- finnish m61 mask
- shotgun primers
- preparedness
- quartermaster
- powder valley
- numbrich gun parts
- cci primers
- molle gear
- permaculture
- high-margin economy
- low-margin economy
- barriers to entry
- supply and demand
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I am butter knife One day closer to victory for all our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories Hey, see I wrote this down West Southwest, East and Northeast. Do not put any credence in the compass code. I do not know the compass code. I don't know what that means. So, well, ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to us on LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com, IndianaFreedomTalkRadio.com. We're on AM and FM Microstations, CB Bay Stations and Alternate Technologies East and West of the Mississippi. Along with Alaska, we're on the Hallmark Network on the eastern seaboard from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida. Bottom of Florida, across the arc of the Gulf of Mexico, headed to Mississippi, Texas, Oklahoma, big chunk of Nebraska, and a whole bunch of Wyoming to include the 5th, the 3rd, and the 5th, and our friends in the Civil War state of Colorado. Waving to the left coast, we turn back to the east, sweep across the plains, back to the burgeoning banks of the Mississippi, and Land in the Smokies where the restaurant crews, OK teams, and the Ma Bell Grammar Consortium of retired telecommunication workers work on the Golden Spike Project. This is Butter Knife. It is 25 October 2013. It is Friday evening. It is the last hour of the day and the week for the Intelligence Report. And that makes this Quartermaster's Corner. I heard a ding. Do we have Mark? Yes. I'm right here. I have my oldest senior cat here, Mr. Kitty, and he decided he could be a clerk typist. I've been getting different help each day, and this was unique. He's still trying to be demanding. He's trying to figure out who's on the phone here, who's in the headset. He keeps coming up close and listening. He's trying to find it. That's right. Where did everybody go? Anyway, yes, it is Friday. It is Quartermaster Friday, guys. It's interesting, there's some stuff that's showing up. It's hodgepodge. It's totally catch-as-catch can. We're going to cover a lot of different subjects through the evening here. Keep your pen and paper handy. Ammunition, on the one hand, certain calibers, there's some stuff around. However, the next wave is pricier. It's just that simple. The world has decided what they're going to do with regard to dealing with America and that's how it's reflected in what you see price-wise on the international stuff. Again, there's still some deals. There's still some places you can find some goodies because there's been just a little bit of a glut. It's not much, but little piles here and there. People are going in and clearing them out as quick as they see the sales. Every place where there's been a sale this week, people basically go in find out about it and that's where they spend the next big lump of money they've got so don't be surprised if we mentioned something and By the time we get it out it may already be gone. It's just the way it is I know a lot of people are asking because of the they were all excited about the 9 millimeter sale With ammo man, which well, it was a sale guys. It lasted a whole what six eight hours That's all it took for all the ammo to go, goodbye, as far as a 9mm goes. Just be prepared for that. This is a world that's changing it again. The dunderheads are finding out that there's a lot of people out there that truly are thinking. We're voting with our wallets. across the board. Quartermaster, we need you to do that guys. We need you to coordinate your people to purchase what we need to be prepared for any event. Remember, this gives us the ability in the event somebody drops a planet on us. We have an earthquake, there's a tidal wave, I don't care whatever it is, wherever you are, still around and standing on two feet. Everything that we're talking about preparing with. will be used for such a subject, you know such a problem. So you're not going to be out of penny and all it's like tonight I just I think I ate the last we were cooking the last can of 1999 corn beef. Okay, what does that tell you? The last of the 1999 corn beef now because oh, but the manufacturers all tell us that the shelf life is only one year and you should toss it and buy new. Yeah, exactly. They love selling us more. Again, it's the idea that we've tested the stuff out, we know it works, we know it doesn't. Corn beef has tripled in price from when this can was bought. In fact, looking at the latest prices, even in the cheapest places, corn beef has gone up yet again by about 40-50 cents. The meat products in general are creeping up higher. That's across the board. Again, remember too, the Chinese are supposed to be taking all this stuff over, right? and the communists will be the ones chopping up people and throwing them in the package and telling you it's whatever. Oh, I'm sorry, did I say that? Yeah. After all, if you do something wrong in the factory, well, you look at the images on Liberty Tree Radio's YouTube page, you can watch all those little people, including the teddy bear girl, and well, down on your knees, two guys holding your arms, and they blow your brains out. Well, they don't waste anything with what's left. And if at all possible, they try to put a big hole in you because even your eyeballs are worth money. So just something to think about there. Again, why we need to be taking care of our own manufacturers, taking care of our own local producers, help them, promote them. If you can get stuff done by them and through them, I highly recommend it. You want to keep those businesses operational. Things go bad. They've got a market. At least they're still stepped up in production. Even though it would be reduced, at least they'll have something to do. We'll keep them doing what they're doing. We'll keep them in business. We've got to have local, that's the big thing. DK, I know you've got a bunch of stuff jumping there. What do you got for us, sir? Oh, yeah, we have a bunch of stuff. Let's go through and do the routine supply stuff. We have found Potter Valley's out of all of those shot shell primers. I have been ragging on everybody saying, hey, look, if you can't find center fire, brass, ammunition, at least feed the shot guns. The components for the shot shells are still freely available. The light powders and the very slow powders remain the ones that are available. You will use a lot of the slow powder per cartridge if you're feeding a heavy belted Magnum and so on, but those are expensive buffalo stompers. Darn useful, but a niche. The shot shells, on the other hand, you can load those light, you can load them heavy. You can feed 12 and 20 gauge a light load in a 20 is still plenty dangerous at short range and your auxiliaries can use those much better than the heavy rifles and They're probably the most versatile platform you can buy wads 5,000 in a sack the sack is almost as big as some of your personnel You can still purchase the fast powders and so on. The primers as always will be the key manufactured part. WC Armory, we brought this up last week. Whiskey Charlie Armory has Fiocchi shot shell primers. Powder Valley is out of the Chedite that they had but this outfit that we mentioned last week does have Fiocchi. Powder Valley has some of the center fire primers. They actually have CCI military small rifle primers. This is new last week and for the longest time they have not had those. What's also new is that they're running $38 per thousand. For Powder Valley that is a very high price but at least they have some. As usual they have the 50 BMG stuff. They also have large rifle magnum from CCI. So all of you people that are just absolutely addicted to CCI brand primers and can't accept anything else, there's a little bit of hope on the horizon. The small rifle and let's see, the large rifle magnums are available both from CCI, both in the 30 something price range. Let's see, what else? Oh yeah, Tula from Powder Valley is still available to a degree. A small pistol and a small rifle from Tula are the 2350 point. So that is a considerable savings versus any of the other more traditional brands. They continue to have the Berdan in .308 and X39 sizes. Once again, repeat my advice that if you are topped up in other stuff, it's a good idea to have a few thousand of the brand primers because you don't know what is going to fall into your hands. brass ammunition that you may still have on the shelf, the surplus stuff, the British Redway Green, the Portuguese 308, the German 308. A lot of that stuff is burdened, believe it or not, and that may be sitting on your shelf as battle ammo, even though it's getting a little bit older. You succeed in cleaning up that site after the fact. Maybe somebody goes back to a site half a day or day after an engagement and picks up all the brass they can find. You may find that that is burdened brass. While it is possible to convert burdened over to a boxer, if you've got the burdened primers, that's the better way to go. Natchez has a fair selection of CCI primers across the board. That's the good news. The bad news is they start at $36 per thousand and a bunch of them are at $40 per thousand. That's Natchez Shooter Supply, NatchezSS.com. They also have some of the Winchester and some of the Remington primers. Winchester is at 35, large and small pistol and small rifle available in Winchester. The bad news on the Remington, $46 per thousand small rifle and small pistol. So, that is the trend. We're getting into a phase where $35 seems like a fair price. That is major sticker shock from years past, but so it goes. There's one more of the traditional supply things, the things that we have hammered on this program for a long time that I'd like to revisit. It's been a while since I've done this. I've given you a break. It's been a few weeks. Bye. The gas mask that I really, really like for a mass issuing role, not for specialty, not necessarily for the driver, if you can get the one lens style for the drivers, that's best and so on. But for general infantry issue, I really like the USM9, the Finn M61 gas mask. It's got a number of virtues among which it is available and relatively cheap. It also has reasonably good visibility and a filter on the left side which means that you get to get a right cheek weld if you are a right handed rifleman and that is the most common situation. Five out of six people in the population are right handed and all of them and some of the lefties. fire right handed by preference and the thin masks with the filter on the left accommodate that very very nicely. Numbrich Gun Parts Corp has been out of those masks for quite a while. But, major surplus claims to still have them and they are offering the complete kit. One mask, one filter, bag, all the odds and ends at $20 for the kit. How long that lasts and whether that is current information is anybody's guess. If you did not stock up on mask kits at $12 and below, from and they are selling out, they are draining the available supply. So if major surplus still has a cache of those, that's something to go for. And with the masks, bear in mind, oh, Sportsman's Guide claims to have them as well at a mere $27 for the kit. So that gives you an idea of their pricing structure. Remember the flip side of the mask is the filters and the key to any mask is the filters. If you have a mask and two filters, I do not think that you have tactical depth. supply and support depth and so on. If you're actually going to use one of these things, you're going to go through the filters. It's like having a fancy rifle and one box of ammunition. Okay, nice try. That's a start, but it really does not meet the standards. So you want to have filters available in depth. Because of the cost of the things, I've been saying, well, you want to have four or five filters per mask, but if money were not an object or if you had time and work on it, I would really rather you have more filters than that. Gun Parts Corp. Numbrich continues to have these cases of filters for that fin mask. These are 60mm filters that go with the fin mask, they go with some of the old Belgian stuff. I have heard bad things about the existing Belgian supply. They will fit some of the older NATO stuff, also the Canadian C2 and C3s, and with an adapter ring. Best source for that is main military. Those masks can use a 40 millimeter NATO filter. However, for the moment, what I am recommending is that Numbrich has those cases of filters, 45 filters in a plywood case at $150 plus shipping. That would be $20 or $30 shipping because it's a fair size case. Not super duper heavy, but it is a fair size case. Therefore, at $170-$180 total out the door. You can pick up 45 of those filters, which means that you have supplied five or six masks to my preferred depth or 10 to 12 masks at average supply depth with filters. If you have those masks, I strongly recommend that you pick up a case or two of these while they last. There will be no warning when they get down to the bottom of the pile of these cases. They are the last vendor I know of that has these in considerable supply and offers them at what I consider a fair price. So that is Gun Parts Corp. And they offer a case of these 45 filters in a case at 150 bucks plus shipping and be there or be square. Okay? So Mark, go ahead. The big thing here again is in the inventory there's nothing on the horizon with the wholesalers and the way of masks, nothing. Talking to them today, one of the companies on the West Coast, basically what they're saying is their purchasing agents are in Europe. The last little batch of Swiss masks, apparently even the Swiss have tightened up, they're not wanting to get rid of anything. Their assumption is they're going to need what they have. So the company specializes in Swiss gear on top of everything else. So they really do know what's going on there with the market. Other stuff that they picked up like the Yugo, the M1, M2 masks. Those are good. They copy out. They're made by the fins. Those will match up with these filters so you can still get a basic fin type mask actually made by Nokia. So they're finished masks. They're just the ones that were made for the U-Go's at the other end of Europe. They came from the top of Europe, went all the way to the bottom of Europe. How do you like that? They're serviceable, brand new. in the plastic, everything is sealed so they're protected from the environment but you're going to need more filters and they give you enough to get started, fortunately. Now if things get really tight, here's another thing that happens. This has happened every time that there's been a shortage. Eventually, they'll be getting masks with no filters. Yeah, which doesn't do you a whole lot of good now, does it? You can stuff a dirty old sweat sock in there, I guess, and hope for the best. But that is not what we want you doing. We want you screwing on a proper factory manufactured filter. Thank you very much. So that's one of the reasons for picking up the filters now. You need the spares. It's one of those things that we, again, we don't have a filter plant in the back of it. What we do, we here at Michigan have one production facility, but they're doing the 40mm filters right now. That's what they've been doing for years. And they do a duplicate, a copy of the German standard filter. And they're not doing it at four bucks a pop. These cost a lot more but also being preserved they're actually for a particular fund that is part of the sub-part of the company that has the machine. They have one machine, it can only do so at a time, obviously after another and that's it. And whenever the funding is available then that machine is run. But if funding is not available then that machine doesn't run for the time being. The same thing with filters. We are for, gimme masks. We make a copy of the, actually we just cut a copy of the Israeli mask. It looks more like the Swedish, or forgive me, the Swiss that just came out. But it was a lot of money to buy the single dye that was put together. And this is not just regular plastic production. Gas masks require a little more specific precision and accuracy. So, again, it's a special technology, guys. We know about it. That's why buying this stuff now is a big plus and you can't share a gas mask. It's just that simple. The bad guys are bragging up how they're going to do this or do that, whatever they plan on doing. They already did the NBC attack in Syria. I don't care who did it. Didn't it kind of show you that it's a reality on the battlefield? In fact, it's not just a reality on the battlefield. It can be just a reality in your backyard. They've already proven it out. You watched the national television. You heard all the yap and flak from the propagandists. Well, however, whatever happened, happened, guess what? The one thing that definitely demonstrated, having a gas mask could be a really good idea, wouldn't it? So for those who were slow on the uptake, well, keep ignoring what you're seeing. Otherwise, common sense. Prior proper planning prevents piss poor performance. Getting stuff done. the mass themselves, all the rest of the NBC gear and you'll be squared away. It's not that tough to take care of nor is it that expensive right now. We're finding the places where the best prices are located. Go ahead, BK. Okay, I have a couple of larger topics prepared, but if you had some things to handle, then we'll defer those to another week. They will wait. So let me ask you, what do you want to do? Just real quick here. I'll pull up one in a few minutes before we go to the bottom. Great, how's that sound? Then we're going to run right into the rest of your topics. All right. Sound good? Okay, real quick here, guys. Royal Tiger Imports. We mentioned this company earlier. Royal Tiger Imports is an odd man out. They're not real big, but they have some interesting stuff. Not a big, big variety, but they have some interesting stuff. Now, they have a direct link with Sturm, a company that I've dealt with for years. I can tell you just by looking at the inventory of what they can grab right away. That's because Sturm is due west of where this company is located. One of the things that they have are kits, as was mentioned by one of our callers, and a bunch of other cool stuff in terms of weapons. The kits, one of them, the Pepi-S43, PPS 43 kit, comes with lots of extra mags. Now it is more expensive, but it also has more of what you want in the way of parts that were cut off the weapon. If you're looking for a kit, that might be rather, again, the build kit right now, or down the road, not right away. Then the Pepis 43 is a good choice, but here's a little hint. The Pepis 43 pistols that are out there, which have the entire kit in place, give you the slide cut and angle for the ejection port that's needed for the upper receiver tube component. So if you needed a pattern, you don't have to guess, you can gauge off of one of those PPS 43s to build more semi-auto petriish 43s if you wanted to or down the road in the future when it doesn't make any difference. All the basic and most critical components are left intact. You are going to need a barrel. Right now, I will be quite honest, we've got a project going that's going to be either using 40 caliber in that PEPI-S43 or the 40 caliber down to 30 caliber and making a new and unique cartridge or into 223. There's an argument about playing with the wildcat. So that's in motion. And if we do this, the neat thing is using the existing mags, we come up with another way to extend the life of that particular type of weapon. That's one of our goals. We're gonna go to break here. We got BK Mark. It's Quartermaster Friday. We come back. Keep your pen and paper ready, guys. That's RoyalTigerimports.com. They've got a bunch of Web Gear components pieces you might want to take a look at. Certainly, they've got the $200 SKS, the best price in the country. Otherwise, again, peruse their page and see if there's something that's of use to you that's of reasonable price. We'll be back in a minute. BK Mark, it's Friday. Take the seat and our home, my boys Let it go, we're all complete Be a pretty-hearted coach, you boys Call it the liberty We all need to prepare ourselves. You might have the food, water, gold and silver, but ask yourself, are you truly prepared? That's why you need to visit MaineMilitary.com. MaineMilitary.com carries everything you need. Gas masks, fire starter kits, high capacity magazines, chemical suits, military surplus items and much more. Do you own a firearm? MaineMilitary.com has a large selection of pistols and rifles suited for your needs. 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Yeah, I was about to say I hope that the octopus's garden is in the Mediterranean because if it's in the Pacific it's full of cesium if it's in the Gulf It's full of corrects it and raw oil They haven't quite gotten the Atlantic yet or the Mediterranean, but I guess those are the only two remaining zones So that they haven't yet. That's Joe's backyard there. That's the octopus's garden as a land octopus. I didn't know, I heard about a massive oarfish, but I hadn't heard the big squid. Yeah, the thing is that they were having a fight over it, and the only reason it was, and actually they were just going to take samples and destroy it, but two different departments got into a fight over who was going to get it. Custody of it, so the cool thing is they actually put the thing on ice. Originally they were going to either chop it up for calamari, or they were going to burn it to get rid of it. Which is really strange to me. It's like why would you do that? It doesn't make any sense at all. I don't really care for the taste of inner tube, so I stay away from telemari. Chewy, take the inner tube. Come on, Al. Whoever wants the squid, well, they're not competing with me for the flounder or the soul or whatever. So that's fine by me. Sure, here, have some squid. Hi, Mark. Are you there? Go right ahead. Who do we have? Oh, this is Ray in Wyoming. Right, just a couple of quick questions. You were talking about the gas mask and the filters. A lot of these filters that you see are under the brand new, but yet they might have been sitting on the shelf for 20 years or so. So I'm just wondering, do they have a shelf life? In practical terms, not. The thing you need to understand is that the mainstream filters, there are some specialty filters that are specially designed with extra layers of various chemicals to react with specific chemical threats, but the extreme majority of filters are nothing more than activated charcoal, activated carbon, and some retaining elements to keep the dust from falling out. As long as those are sealed, carbon is just as inert as anything you might possibly ask for. If they are unsealed and get moisture and humidity in there, then mold can grow, which will start to clog up the filter and reduce its effectiveness. It's not going to be toxic to you, but it will make it do less for you. But as far as the actual components, 95% or something of filters manufactured are just a block of activated carbon. Well, it's powder, but they're a fist-sized bunch of activated carbon and their job is to absorb practically everything that goes through except the oxygen and nitrogen. So, what they do is they just sort of glom onto all the larger molecules and impede them going through, which is why they tend to start drying heavy as they are plugged up. The other thing to bear in mind is that the major threat is going to be pepper spray, CSCN, that sort of stuff. That is produced in vastly larger quantities than mustard or VX or any of that sort of stuff, which are also threats to exposed skin by the way. So for most of our purposes, what we're dealing with are carbon filters and carbon itself does not degrade as long as it's sealed in the package. It could be 100 years old and it would work just the same. okay thank you a quick question for mark on your uh... quicker for the new world or new world order videos i have wanted to and i think they're just great but i'm just wondering if you ever need chance to be put out of three Three is actually partially in the can almost right now. I would say it's not complete, but there were some things that we wanted to add and we sidestepped the, you know, we waited on the program because, yeah, we've gone into MOLLE. In fact, the one thing I was going to do is film up the MOLLE gear to include repairs. I've got two garbage bags full of MOLLE vests that either needed repairs or were repaired, and they're innovative as far as how they did in the field. So we wanted to keep them all the way they were. Equipping three were probably, in fact the cameras, that's one of the things I've been going through this week. We might be finishing that up along with two or three other projects here in the next, oh probably 15 days or so. We need to get it done. It really is finished. Yeah, I'm just going over the editing equipment behind me here with the big racks and plugging everything in. I've got all the tape sorted including all the stuff that we've already done and it's already synchronized. So we just need to complete it. Good question there. Oh, okay. In fact, you jogged me. Okay, you hit me with a quill whip and I'm going to get my arson gear the rest of the way. That's what I got to do. And it really is the the MOLLE gear is the unique niche. Plus there's a bunch of other side systems. We did not cover the German equipment, the new German gear, which is not that new now. It's actually been around for a few years, but it's starting to come out in surplus. We have to demonstrate how it does or doesn't integrate with other stuff. And that it's not that it's bad equipment. In fact, I'm going to grab a bunch. We already have some. I've been trying to make a deal or find a good niche for a place where they haven't jacked the price back up for the mag pouches, for instance, in Flecktarn. It's a mission. It's one of the things that does need to be completed. If you get a chance, if you like the equipping, there's a series of PM videos that we did on the Liberty Tree Radio channel on YouTube. Go to our Liberty Tree Radio channel on YouTube and go through all of our videos. Okay. That's also an addendum. Those have a lot of different addendum and ideas in them. The idea behind it was for new people coming in to kind of shake the bush and give them some ideas and hopefully something falls off and they keep it. So will this get advertised on your webpage then? Yes. We'll bring it up on the air too. In fact, I just laundered a bunch of gear that needed to be cleaned up simply because I got it and it was stuff that I grabbed and snatched I knew I needed for the filming. I just haven't cleaned it up yet. I just finished all the laundering on that because I wanted to look squared away and we want it cleaned up and hanging. So that will all be there. Plus, I'm asking another company to come in, one of our friends up north, and do some troop work showing the gear. So it's going to be kind of an epic piece if we do it right with a lot of extra bodies participating. Sounds good. Well, thanks for missing information. I'll get off and let somebody else get on. Thank you. Appreciate the call. And again, on the filters, guys, for everybody out there listening, hang on to everything you got. No matter how you look at it, how long can you hold your breath? And any filter is better than no filter in a storm. At least it will do something for a bit. You may have to breathe harder and suck harder to get through the loaded up system, but at least you're keeping your respiratory system clear. There are other tricks in the trade, as was pointed out, by BK Granger offers every filter you can imagine. If you want to see what we're talking about, there are specialized filters and you can go to the Granger catalog online or you can get a Granger catalog. I got one behind me and I got one over in the other booth. I keep the Granger catalogs handy because they show you all the tech and everything to the deepest threat. is available. Of course now when we say that you may pay like say $20 for the gas mask but you can pay $300 for a filter. Oh. That's what we say. Oh! But you will be safe from anything. If they drop cholera from the sky and leprosy bombs, at least you wouldn't be breathing it in. I don't know about the rest of the problems that might occur there, but at least you wouldn't be breathing it in. The filter would stop it right there. That would be the one thing. But again, the $300, you better get what you pay for it too. Anyway, we'll do what we can to cover that and just watch our programming, pay attention, and also we'll post it on the web page too when we have equipping three up. That's one of the reasons there's a bunch of stuff to my left here piled up and itemized. And Ed was actually helping with that just before he took off on his next mission. Yeah, that'd be good if you got to post it because as much as I'd like to, I don't manage to listen every night. We'll follow up on it then. Thank you. Sounds good. Thank you. Appreciate it. And BK, I know you got more jump in there, sir. We got 20 minutes, and I know you can get it in there. Okay, yeah, and I'll mention if you miss a program, don't forget that we always have archives posted on IndianaFreedomTalkRadio.com. Our archives are located there in MP3 format, available for download at BK's favorite price, $0.00. Usually, an archive is posted within about 24 hours or so of the program. It's dependent upon Spike's availability and schedule and so on. We are all volunteers here and nobody is drawing a wage. Every once in a while I've seen somebody gritching in the chat channel saying, well, the program's 20 minutes old, where's the archive? Well, I too would like it to appear instantaneously. So, Spike has to eat and sleep and do his daytime stuff and so forth. So, be patient for a day or so. Sometimes it's a little slower over the weekends depending on how many adventures Spike is having. On that note, you will find a new entry in the archives. There is a new program available on LTR. We'd like to draw people's attention to this because new programs take a little while to find their feet and to get momentum and develop a rhythm and a pattern and so forth. Participation by the listeners is a key portion of all of these things. We just had a call in on quarter masters, for instance. Our newest program is on Tuesdays at 7 p.m. Eastern. The title of the program is Grow Your Own, the budding revolution with Joe from the Carolinas. And Joe's principal topic, his heaviest area of emphasis, is permaculture. Permaculture being the short explanation is lazy man's gardening, choosing species and locations that work well together and require very little maintenance and of course we are oriented toward edibles. So, if you can choose two or three varieties that work in a particular spot, which may be different from a spot 20 feet away, depending on shade and prevailing winds and where's the rocks and which way the ground slopes and where the sun is and all that kind of good stuff, then you will have done a remarkable thing. You have benefited yourself and you may have a bunch of stuff growing that the neighbors are not going to recognize as edible foods and therefore you're not going to have to be shooting the neighbors for raiding your garden as a more conventional garden may have administrative problems along those lines. So permaculture is a large topic and one that's really difficult to cover in just an hour or ten. So, it's certainly a rich mining source to be addressed week after week in different areas. The thing that listeners can do to best assist that program and help it get its momentum is to contact Joe at joefromthecarolina.com. send him a description. Photographs are good. Video is possible. Text is perfectly okay. But say, hey, I have a site here that has southern exposure and the prevailing winds are from the west. There are trees blocking the light from the east. I am in USDA zone 3. What can I plant there that will produce the most per acre year? Or I have a northern slope that has erosion problems and heavy shade. I'd like a ground cover that holds things together and has a side effect of being edible and produces a little bit per square foot as edible. Or whatever the case may be, write him with your site description. and provide as much information as you can so that he can prepare a response. And he may be able to make recommendations for you that are specific to your site and will give you ideas that you might not have thought of. There are all sorts of species. There are thousands of plant species out there, many of which you and I have never heard of. For instance, I recently discovered something called ground nuts and another one called hog peanuts. Not everybody likes hog peanuts. I don't know whether I like them or not. I've never seen one in person. But both of those are ground cover crops that produce edible little tubers under the ground of varying sizes. Well, you won't see those in the grocery store. You won't have heard of those from The widow lady down the street who keeps a flower garden and talks about it all the time but does not produce anything edible. But Joe can brief you on those. He can advise you whether that or something else would be useful in your site and how to go about doing that and possibly sources. for some of those plants to get them started, which ones propagate themselves all over the place like kudzu and which ones need a little bit more attention, so on and so forth. So that is Grow Your Own, the budding revolution with Joe from the Carolinas. That is on 7 p.m. Tuesday, 7 p.m. Eastern on Tuesdays here on LTR and the usual reflectors, etc. His contact address is joefromthecarolinaasatgmail.com. Send him whatever information you're comfortable sharing, north, south, east, west, USDA zone, amount of water, that kind of stuff, whatever might be useful for figuring out what's good for your site. He can make recommendations far more sophisticated and astute recommendations than I could. regarding what sort of plants and species you might want to look into planting. So, comments? The topic that I wanted to hit, and I think we've got enough space here, is one that's a little bit more generic and philosophical. We hear an awful lot of yammer about economics, and some of it is on target. Some of it is nonsense. What you get from the corporate press is of course directed by an agenda. The agenda in the US is certainly clearly pathological. We talk about that pretty much continuously on this channel, but it uses some cultural assumptions as a tool to deceive people. One of the ways it does that is that it has twisted our political system into two parties, neither of which serve the people. Basically, I tell people we don't have political parties in America that have political philosophies. We have two pathologies. We have the Republicans, which are basically the party of the ruling class, which adopt a secondary platform of social conservatism in order to sucker some of the people at lower income levels into supporting it. But basically, the goal of the Republican Party is to make the rich people richer. and clamp down on civil liberties. Then we have the Democrat Party, which is basically liberals or Libby's, as I prefer to refer to them. Their basic pathology is that the average Libby is afraid of almost everything and guilty about the rest. Their point of view on almost every topic can be explained by either fear or guilt. They are afraid of being out in the cold. They are afraid of getting sick. They are afraid of their neighbors having a firearm. They are afraid of the neighbor's dog running loose. They are afraid of this. They are afraid of that and they feel guilty about stuff that they never did. They feel guilty about slaveholding that happened 200 years ago. Well, I didn't participate in it, you didn't participate in that, they didn't participate in that and they feel guilty anyway. So those two pathologies are used to suck people into these two camps, twisting them away from any sort of political philosophy that actually makes sense. One of the tools used to suck people into the Republican camp is economics. The idea being that if you have any grasp at all of classical economics, you have to be a Republican. I may have botched this by handling this rant later in the hour. I'm starting to wear out my voice. At any rate, the rationale is, if you understand supply and demand, you should be a Republican and therefore support the plundering of the population by the upper class. Oh, wait a minute, we didn't say that out loud, did we? We didn't say that out loud, but we handed at it. And the game that they play is that they pretend the economy works in certain ways which are consistent with classical economics, Econ 101, 102, the baby stuff that we are taught in college, but do not actually reflect the real world. There is more to the general mechanism of an economy than we are taught. We are taught some assumptions without actually ever speaking them out loud. I'm going to point out some of these assumptions so they become more obvious to all of us. What happens is that very often if you have heard something You can then recognize it in the real world, but if you have never heard that something actually pointed out, the odds of any one person in any one day perceiving that effect are greatly reduced. So, what I would try to get across in this little rant is that, and this is a butter knife theory, but I think it's accurate, is that there are basically two styles of economy available to us. I would call them a high margin and a low margin economy. What the Republicans and the classical economics people try to get people to assume As part of sucking them into the so-called blue field is that we are in a low margin economy. This is not true. What the establishment likes to promote and has created is a high margin economy. The two economies work differently. Consider the classical case that we are all taught in Econ 101. Things are manufactured, costs are incurred, some margin is added and those materials or services or whatnot are sold. The cost of a product as sold is a strong reflection of its actual manufacturing or production cost if You have some service provided to you. It's a reflection of the wages of the people providing the service, something that requires a lot of man hours, costs more, but as proportionate as something requires twice as much materials, it will cost twice as much, that sort of thing. That is what I call low margin economy, meaning that if you provide a material You add up the cost of the materials and the cost of the machinery and the cost of the labor that goes into it and the cost of the management and the advertising and distribution and all that stuff and add some margin for profit margin and taxes and all those other overhead functions. And that's your cost and if you try to go above that somebody else is going to compete with you and bring the cost down to a more realistic level. That is what we have been taught happens and in theory that's a good system. We have had that in the past. The case of all of these corporations that started out with a barrel and made a batch of pickles and sold the pickles and reinvested and so on and so forth they were all operating in a low margin economy. Now what's the other economy? The other economy is one that I call a high margin economy. This is one in which the cost of goods has very little connection with the actual manufacturing cost, distribution cost and so on. The way you get away with this is by having restrictions of trade. You have overhead functions, you have taxes, you have bureaucratic stuff, there are barriers to entry as a result, there is very little competitive mechanism holding the prices of things in line. So you may buy something for $10 and it may cost $1 to manufacture. The reason there aren't a thousand people jumping in saying I'll sell it to you for $9 is because it's difficult for them to get started. They have to incorporate, get lawyers, get accountants, pay taxes, buy licenses and permits, pay royalty fees, all this kind of good stuff. The more you jam up business with all this sort of overhead, the higher the margin has to be just to cover the basic operating costs. And this is what we have gotten to, to a very large degree in the West. We are running a high margin economy that is the actual cost of things has very, very little impact on the sold cost of things and therefore there is a very big multiplier. What are the side effects and characteristics of a high margin economy? If you are in a high margin business, and you are ticking along and just sort of making your costs and paying all your personnel and so on and so forth. That's fine. You're basically, we could say... that you are ripping off your customers but your customers are ripping you off as well when you go out to buy groceries or buy vehicles or factory machine or what have you. Everybody rips off everybody else, everybody does okay because everybody is carrying the burden of all these accountants, lawyers, bureaucrats, taxing authorities, regulators and so on and so forth. However, what happens when you wiggle the system? Suppose you gain 10% market share. Who we? Okay, you've already covered the cost of all the bureaucrats, lawyers, and others such as BS. Suddenly you're rolling in dough. You're making a fortune. You gained only 10% on your market. But remember, every $10 item that you're selling only costs you a buck. Suddenly you're making piles of money. But the converse is true as well. If you lose 10% of your market share, suddenly you are seriously in the red. You are losing your shirt. So a high margin economy, one with all of this overhead and nonsense, is a very brittle economy. It's one in which if you come up with a pet rock you may end up set for life in six months, but if you're in the business of selling armchairs or whatnot, something happens whether a competitor comes along or whether a rule is changed or whatnot and you lose a few percent of your sales, suddenly you're in the tank and your people are all on the ground. Oh, rats. We ran out of time. Out on the street is what it comes down to. Right. So, this is what we've got right now. We've got a high margin economy. I'll continue this next hour. I'm, you know, sorry I did the timing wrong. But think about this. A low margin economy is what they always imply we have. A high margin economy is what we actually have. and this is the root of how they lie to you whenever they make an economic argument. They pretend that we have a low margin economy, we actually have a high margin economy. We'll get back to this, you know, the last 20 or 30% of the discussion I'll handle next week. Sorry about that, everybody. We are at the top of the hour, guys. Spike's taking over for the rest of the evening and then some. God bless the Republic. Death to the New World Order. shall prevail in japan the empire's on the run we and uh... hopefully our low margin economy are on the march both day and night ross quartermaster friday is over for us but not over for you guys the weekend is just beginning to work pilot up and make sure you've got what you need on the shelf take care of your family and your friend thank you bk all your welcome And we are the sons, yes we are the sons, but sons are here with you. Pay the price for the rest, but it's always paid the time with sleep, never give up the... Live 365 This round of applause is for you the listener for supporting the artists and DJs on Live 365. 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