October 23, 2013
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Mark Koernke discussed ammunition availability and pricing during an extended "Weapons Wednesday" segment, covering shortages in .223, 7.62x39, and other calibers across multiple retailers. He provided detailed recommendations on ammunition selection for different rifle types (AR-15s, AKs, bolt guns), reloading strategies including brass conversion and case modification techniques, and highlighted specific deals on .410 slugs, police trade-in pistols, and tactical gear. A caller contributed information about "The Handloader Manual of Cartridge Conversion" by John J. Donnelly as a resource for ammunition reloading and cartridge conversion.
- ammunition shortage
- 223 ammo
- 7.62x39
- reloading
- brass conversion
- ar-15
- ak rifles
- bolt guns
- 410 shotgun
- palmetto state armory
- cdnn investments
- weapons wednesday
- preparedness
- cartridge conversion
- tactical gear
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The grass skirt doesn't do much. The hula skirt does no good. Anyway, the plastic, you know, body armor, the bone in his nose, the obsidian knife. He's feeling Mayan. chickens, cats, dogs, probably the occasional neighbor next door have already been murdered. They were stretched out over the $59.95 special custom issue. Hand-pated, really no different from the $29.95 model, but you were told so when you spend more money. And he just didn't get what he wanted last year. So he's trying to make up for it. Come on, you know how it is with these nutcases. The crazy town loons that are so far around the corner, they can't see the corner and the other two they passed long ago. That's what you got when you put the sickle. Washington it's just they come together and the PCs just piled up. Yeah, on body parts, too. Anyway, you know it's bad when it smells like somebody's rear end. They were down there somebody's rear end, lickin'. Yes, man, system of Washington is all about stench. Anyway, yeah, crazy town kids all dancin' around, you know, doin' the mine thing and it just hasn't worked for them. They get frustrated. others to it even though the uh... tablecloth kids so saudi arabia the ones of the uh... you know picnic basket under under every tablecloth yeah you know those guys yet checkerboard tablecloth like we should that we will be somebody sold them on it and keep buying it so it's cool anyway they got the table you know it's the uh... kind of like right out of the record guide in the universe hot shoe anyway uh... they pointed out a lot of companies what little ammunition they had in reserve is kind of gone. Now that's not a frustrating thing, that's a good thing guys after all. It means the ammo that was there went someplace and it went to someplace probably friendly. Now it would behoove you to take the time to scour the inventory, look to see what you can find, and I would point out that the reloads in 223 slash 556 and in 762NATO readily available Notice I said military, I'll actually say reloads, but I'll qualify that with military brass reloads. There's a couple companies that started to make up the difference. They've been collecting stuff around and they have been picking up and doing what they can. Well, there is some stuff out there. So if you look around, you might find a deal here and there. 7.62x39 still seems to be the most readily available ammunition again for the moment. but it's purely a matter of catch-as-catch Ken there and a lot of the stuff is already just plain well pulled out. I would, and I've got to stress this again, a lot of people have two-two-three rifles out there. There is some Russian steel case ammunition, not some, there's a lot of it that's coming to the country. You know this, we've talked about it, not a problem. But I would remind you that if you can, the steel case ammunition should be pointed towards the AK type rifles first or use it in your bolt guns. Now everybody goes, what? Number one, the most unforgiving rifle on the planet, the M16, which is where it eats, okay, spits ammunition into the chamber. The gas system spews detritus and debris slash feces right back out from the gas port up above. This me creates a lot of carbon, guys, a lot of carbon. It also means that, again, if there's a problem, everything's all right there in one place and it's a disaster waiting to happen. If you can keep the weapon cleaner, if you can keep the weapon using spec brass, that would be your first choice. Now, on the other hand, the most unforgiving of rifles, contrary to all the movie BS where it seems like the AK, the most reliable weapon out there, always have a malfunction even in back to the future that got an a k all the other level of a lot of it all of the decade of the work now i hate to tell you about the main character really would be the better off if you get he was carrying air fifteen and uh... he it didn't have the right animal had been clean the weapon or didn't do a proper inspection of it maybe a part was broken the i think it may are a complete that thing but it had an a k The older an AK gets, the sloppier it gets. The sloppier it gets, the more reliable it is. So maybe who's brand new out of the box with hollow point ammunition? That's possible, maybe that's why. You know, some Russian hollow point, and we warned you about that. Certain rifles are finicky, others are not. It's just something you gotta keep an eye on. That's because the hollow point ammunition is remember nib demo. Now, in terms of what's out there in pecking order, it doesn't mean, no, please don't start telling me, Mark, oh, that hollow point ammunition works in my rifle. Yes, it probably does, and others it won't. Just a reminder, something we pointed out. And because of that, that's why for new shooters you want to stick with ball ammo if at all possible. Anyway, the 223 stuff, well, in the AKs, the AKs are designed to handle steel case. Now I would point out something else we haven't mentioned, but there aren't that many out there, so don't worry about it. The next model of HK, the 223 HKs are out there. A handful came in. If they have the original barrels, guess what? The HKs in the model 93's 223 models is designed to handle the steel cased ammunition. The Germans built them that way guys. They were designed that way. So that's another rifle I would prioritize steel cased towards. Now why bolt guns? Well, bolt guns are actually pretty durable in general. Extractor is tougher. Ejection is sympathetic, in other words very positive. And you're not really heating the gun up. If you're using a bolt gun, you'll be shooting rapidly, but you're going to be aiming, firing, extracting, reintroducing around, firing, extracting. Okay, it's a slower process. So you're much more methodical, and it's less likely that you're going to see any kind of adhesion problems. The bolt gun, okay? Prioritize if you can the steel case in that direction, or hold the steel case off till combat, you know, four. it's a pure personal personal issue there you may have only still case right now because that's all you get now we have pointed out two places palmetto state armory palmetto state armory palmetto state armory dot com palmetto armory dot com palmetto state armory dot com palmetto state armory they have some 223 about 795 well 799 so it was eight dollars a box AIM surplus has one load of 223 they sold out everything else in the last couple of days they're done on that They have some 55 grain for what? 65 a box. Plus or minus. More you buy cheap rears by a few pennies. Your choice. Whichever you want to run to first, grab it, buy it, get it there before somebody else does. Now in the steel case 223, a lot of it's already sold out. In fact, you'll notice it's even been taken off of the inventory. But center fire systems, for instance, this item is out of stock and is not available for back orders. 100-count, nothing but a 100-count blister, excuse me. A thousand-count case, 55-grain Russian, free shipping to the 48 states if they have it in stock, and it might be a mistake here, but if they do, it's $269.99 free shipping to the 48 states. So that includes the cost of shipping. What they have available, and that is it, two three-gos. as far as we know. Now let me double check something here because... ...back ammo at $22 a box. Oh, hell no. We can help it. That'll be last. It's only if all else fails, else is sold out. Otherwise, drilling out back ammunition, Sierra Blitz King, blah blah blah, it's $22 to $23 a box. No, no, no. Anyway, 7.62x39 ammunition. Again, there's been a run parallel with that and a lot of it is gone. I highly recommend, don't assume anything. You click to the object, you will find that it already has Mr. Out of Stock. And the other thing that's happening is also they're adding a new one not available for back orders. There will be no back orders. They're not going to do that because they already had this fiasco over the last 12 months, which is yet again another wave that took place, but the back orders They just can't deal with it. The bottom line is it creates, it does keep them employed, but they know they can sell the ammunition so they don't need back orders. They're not going to bother with that anymore. For the most part, it's, well, you catch it, you got it. If you don't, you're screwed. It's not my problem. You want to buy it. You don't want to go somewhere else. Okay? That's how they're doing it. The brown bear ammunition is pretty well out of stock again, and I'm questioning whether or not that will even be replaced at all. thing again as I pointed out, you got a watering hole for 45 ACP. Again, the steel case even is available is out there, but whether or not it's box or primed, that's a good question. Don't know, you'll have to check. In many cases, the steel case ammo is box or primed now. And don't throw any steel case or aluminum case or brass case away. I can't emphasize that enough. Remember, get old, give us reloading dies. Palmetto State Armory seems to still have most of the basic pistol dies in stock. None of the fancy stuff, that's up and down. But they do have the big dies, get it set. If you can get hold of a carbide set of dies, and yes, those will be pricey, I'm gonna tell you that right now, try to get a carbide set. Those will help to work a lot of the tough brass or the steel case without any punishment to your system. because the conventional carbon steel or any of the other modified are good, but carbide is better. Carbide will last longer and will help you especially resizing other brass to make something that you need. For years we've had, when we wanted reloadable 8mm Mauser, well 30.06 was 2 cents and a penny or a penny around. When we shoot it, we would save the brass and we'd make up 8mm Mauser for our friends or for ourselves. If we wanted reloadable, yep, yep, that's trick that's been done for years, there's nothing new. There's a lot of other cases, one case can help you to build another. It's actually all these wildcat cases. came about in the first place. It's history guys. So just remember that's how the world works and act accordingly when it comes to picking up dies. Remember you don't necessarily have to have brass for that round available. If you've got something that's in spec, you can size the other brass down or open the other brass up and make it work for you. Okay? Do a little research. Understand reloading and how it works and you'll be very happy with the end result. Now, next, again hand cannons. Guys, a couple of companies have gotten some, and I don't know how many are left, because in fact yesterday one company sold out. But a couple of companies have offered in the last couple of weeks, police trade-in pistols, and CDNN Investments, investments.com, okay, have had some Smith and Wesson's for a reasonable price. Now I'm not saying it's going to be like, wow, that's not what I'm looking at. It's the idea that, well, it's better than what we've been seeing cost-wise. And then most important is, again, if we can save in one area, that means you can spend in another. But if you were looking for a particular type of pistol, and maybe it's on your shopping list as far as the hand cannons go, oh, let's catch this catch cannon, we know how that works. But if you're lucky and you are just, you know, again looking for something that's inexpensive yet serviceable, one neat thing about a lot of these police trade-ins is that magazines are readily available. They were the next thing to slice white bread two years ago. Now the latest items out, so something else is the best loaf of bread to buy. Well that means that the old stale loaves that they have in their holsters need to be sold. Well, they don't need to be. They can probably keep it. They got bust. They're not going to. They're going to buy the next piece of the loaf of bread, which is good. We like that. OK? We like that because we get to take advantage of what it is that they want to get rid of. I'll bet you it'll still work just as well in your holster as it did in their holster, right? Let's see. With regard to weapons and material, interestingly, me off to no end. So you can find this at www.cdnninvestments.com. I did not have time. What's going on with their... Looks like they sold out of a couple of them, but they do have a few other pistols in stock as trade-ins. So you're going to have to give them a call. I think that's your best bet. I can't guarantee that they even have them. They may already be gone. For a 330 to 340 apiece for the Smiths, Those were more than a reasonable price and about the same as the used glocks right now if they're in the system or available. The glocks of course in this latest wave that were being accessed, a lot of you guys bought them up or the general public bought them up because of conditioning by the people who are teaching whoever to do what. So again, the glocks, they don't have any problem clearing them out as soon as they get them and trying to find more or grabbing more from the inventory wherever they can access them. They do have some 410 ammunition right now American tactical imports Again, this is a special purchase 410 slug For all you guys out there have the 410s 25 round box for five dollars 500 round case for ninety nine dollars and eighty cents So that's four dollars five four dollars and ninety nine cents for a 25 round box $99.80 for a 500 round case. See, will not function, will not. Apparently this is why they're offering this. This was brought in, but it will not function in judges, sporting autos, or auto ejector shotguns. Interesting. Okay, so this is gonna be for you top break 410s. All you guys have those little H&Rs. Here's a slug for you. And for $5 for 25 rounds, Well that makes that pretty affordable all of a sudden, doesn't it? Matter of fact, that makes that quite affordable for your 410. But, as it says right here, will not function in the judges, which I think is rather interesting, sporting autos, or auto ejector shotguns. Now my question is, will it work designed for extractor 410 single and double barrel shotguns, and AK or AR style 410 semi-autos? Here you go, you got a Sega 410. Anybody out there listening got a Sega 410. Anybody out there smart and bought one of those Sega 410s for about $200 when we told you to. Remember that when they were $200. Hey, you want to get the 410? Fine. $5 for 25 rounds per box or a full case of $500 for $100. Hey, you can live with that one, that's pretty cool. So anyway, there's some ammunition for you from that direction. It's a sale item. It says 75% off. I have no idea what the price was before for this stuff, or if it was a really stupid price. But for $5 for a 25 round box for you Sega lovers, there's a slug for you. It'll get the job done. Congratulations. Four single and double barrel. You guys got those single barrel 4-10s. Here's a slug for your 4-10. Hey. also for those 1919 AR-15 look-alike 410 guns that came in in Turkey. There you go. There's the solution now. In handguns, the only other thing that you have here is an EAA polymer pistol, high-capacity 40 Smith & Wesson, 112 round mag, 9mm is a 116 round mag built within accessory rail. Well, if I can't get more mags for this, Okay, and hopefully you can. They're looking at $25 a mag for these. The pistol itself, discount for a cash, for a discounted cash price, $300 per pistol. With a credit card, $310. So $300 if you buy it with cash, save $10, and you know, otherwise it's going to be $310 per gun. Now this is a, I don't know, it looks to me it's got the high power line to it. but it's in polymers so you take a pick about what you think it looks like. Does it look pretty enough to buy? See, because that's one of the bizarre things. It's like, well, the high point pistols, which, man, they're still cranking them out and the market is absorbing them so quickly that, you know, that's another one of those catch-as-catch can handguns. They should be at about $120 to $130, no more apiece, but They're creeping to the 150 plus mark and have even been sold higher, so if they're new. Again, are they pretty enough or not pretty enough? Pretty is what you're worried about, which I really don't know if pretty isn't a handgun anymore, because to me the Glock is uglier than sin. It's a big blocky, boxy thing, but it works. If you give me a Glock, I'll make it where I'll... everybody else out there shooting them makes them work, so they work. So if pretty as you're styling because you like Camaros over Mustangs, I guess okay. But if you're looking for just plain functional, again the high point pistols and high point carbines are an affordable choice. They will work. A lot of your people, not to use a handgun every minute of the day, are aspiring thousands of rounds from their pistols, but I'm going to tell you something. If you watch our training videos, we use high points to the point of destruction intentionally. The pistols you see in the live fire course had 5,000 rounds put through each one of them with no cleaning intentionally. You'll notice that the guns were functioning in those videos. After 5,000 rounds with no cleaning with a high point pistol with 9mm and in 45. Oh! You mean they work? They do. So anyway, we are at the bottom of the air. 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All of www.charleydelta november november that's cdnninvestments.com www.cdnninvestments.com cv and and investment time go to the page they have the four ten ammunition for the sake of states that it's not to be used with the judge etcetera now there are for what reason you can talk to the company but for the sago rifles you know some i out of those or for and for any other four ten eight ks are a hours works for single shot and double barrel four ten so if you have a double barrel or single shot or ten most likely you'll have a single shot now i will say this one of the things we sold a lot of when they were at a gun shop with a with savage back in the seventy savage had resurrected quite effectively their double barrel shotgun uh... they've made it twenty eight twelve twenty eight etcetera before ten sold extensively and they are double barrel shotgun awful nice thing to have conversation also again if you know what you're doing two barrels boom and boom get the job done uh... what going down range is all lot of energy to deliver on target remember that was go out today and i reaching greater range is called modern munitions modern technologies of caught up with the shotgun fact they've already been in place since the knowledge of all nine yards in this case with the standard plug cb and and investments right on the front of the page, go right down the middle of the scroll there and you'll find that they list it and what it's for. But it's supposed to be a 75% down apparently. They're not to be used in the judge and not to be used in other items. So this is one of the few ammo sales out there. Plus, plus thing or as they would say in Orwell's C language, double plus good. Again, that's Charlie Delta November November India November Victor echoes. Michael, Echo, November, Tango, Sierra, Charlie, Oscar, Michael. Okay, so again, cdnninvestments.com. NN investment. Scroll down, halfway down the page. Special purchase, 75% off, 410 slug. American Tactical Imports is the company. I've seen your call, they were a little pricey, so that does make sense. Anyway, it's $5 for 25 rounds. designed for extractor, 4.10 single and double barrel shotguns and AK or AR style 4.10 semi-auto. 2.5 inch quarter ounce will not, will not, will not function in judges, sporting autos or other shotguns. Why? Well, that's a good question. So we'll find out more. Apparently energy and design coefficient with the way the thing delivers and expands the case probably is what I'm thinking. Anyway, will work, will work, these will work and the SAGAs, all of your other variations, the Pepper shotguns that are out there, 410, there's several models, and the single and designed for extractor 410 single and double barrel shotguns. For all of you that have those single shot H&Rs, there you go. give you some ammunition for a cheap reasonable price and again that's five dollars for twenty five rounds five hundred rounds for ninety nine dollars and eighty cents should throw two dimes in and say a hundred dollars one anyway other than that not a whole lot jumping off the page uh... couple of tons instead of bolt guns for eight hundred dollars but then rugers are always pricey we know that and well made i have no problem rugers are built like a brick doghouse ruger goes lunky and clunky and they work so if you get ahold of a ruger or don't sell it unless it's a collector's item and you need something you didn't really, you know, it wasn't an heirloom. That you might sell and the money you make off that you can buy a whole lot of other weapons so you can arm more people. The constants that are bolt guns, what's really bizarre is the 223, 22 and 250s are running $280 where 308, 270 and 300 win mag are, forgive me, $480 for the 223. The 300 wind mag is 430, I'm going to tell you which way I go. I like the 223 bolt guns guys, but I take the 308 for $50 less. I take the 308 with the 22 inch barrel any day over the 223 because there's going to be more than enough out there. And for $50 I can buy a whole lot of ammunition. So at least that's keeping me in business. Or put money towards the optics, whatever I'm going to put on the roof for a scope. But again, personal choice thing, one's got a camouflage stock. Not a big deal there. I can do that in 15 seconds with $2 spray paint from the dollar store. Anyway, other things right now, JG Sales was also mentioned by one of our friends in the chat room because yes, they do have a whole bunch of mags, but they have some, you know, for those you have to have politically correct mags out of Arizona, they have a mix of stuff available. You're gonna have to check them and make sure they have it in stock. They have been hit hard by wave after wave purchasing. something in just about back out the door. So that's one of the things to be careful of when you do order from certain companies that they have. Oh wow, cool. By the way, real quick sidebar here, blacklisted news. No, thanks for from their guys. Let's see. Die-bull charged with bribing officials and falsifying records in China, Russia, Indonesia, and find nearly $500 million. Well, we know they're doing that here. We weren't really a surprise. Well, we kind of told you. Well, a lot of people though, let's all pay attention to make sure that we kind of singly on this and go, well, see? So, again, that's probably because in reverse order they didn't bribe the other people enough money to actually apium. They're hind-ended the bison, squirre some bucks and stuff. Things, just the way it happens, kid. The way it happens. Well, for everybody out there, it is. Of course, Weapons Wednesday, for those of you who aren't, probably figuring it out by now. There are a couple of different companies that have been offering some discontinued odds and ends that most of you are probably going to appreciate. One of the things I would recommend that is a useful option right now with regard to what's out there in force, I don't mention cheaper than dirt because cheaper than dirt kind of caved in and licked the hind end of the Fed, the incident on the east coast. They were first ones to say they had to evaluate their weapons sales. and it's like, what's there to evaluate? You couldn't get a gun without an FFL. So there's nothing you could change or do that would significantly alter any of the process. Now, they do have some odds and stuff. They've got some load-bearing gear though right now that where they got it from. I'm not familiar with this particular model. It is priced and might be rather interesting to test out for anybody who's listening. Again, this is cheaper than dirt. I know the guys pointed out the one vest in the chat room there. But guys, if you noticed, there's another model that's available that is on hand with cheaper than dirt. I can catch up on this again. Front carrier, and it's a chest rig unit, OD green. Category MOLLE tactical gear, MOLLE load bearing equipment, vest and chest rigs is where it's located. The chest rig, OD green with five double mag pouches and fifth total pouch. And these are located The item number is vest-145 for $30. So if you're looking for, again, a 5.10 rig for air, Mini-14 shooters, etc., this is a solution. Again, that's cheaper than dirt. I'm not excited about cheaper than dirt, but if there's something that is cheap for a change, which there is a whole lot that's cheaper than dirt there anymore, pretty well you can look around and find the same product line with other people. They caved in, cited bottom, but For $30 if it's nearby, you might want to check this vest out. Multiple manufacturers, dash 145. Multiple manufacturers vest. Boy, if that isn't a China Sport name translation, I don't know what is. Vest dash 145. Vest dash 145. Might be worth checking out. Again, chest rig, OD, green with five double mag pouches. 15 total pouches. Pretty cool little package there. One, two, three, four, five. seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13, 15, yep. It has 15. You're behind the pouches. Find out more about that. See what you can do if it's worthwhile or if it fits your needs. We got a caller. Who do we have? Caller, jump in there. Morning, Mark. John here. You were talking about converting cartridges into savings deal cases. Years ago, I picked up a hardback book called The Handloader Manual of Cartridge Conversion by John J. Donnelly. There's over a thousand pages of data in this book. It's a huge book. Don't drop it on your foot. And it literally lists every cartridge that has ever been made, what type of brass case started from, how to manufacture or modify a particular case of a different caliber to get to what you want, or how to lay, turn a cartridge, and data, bullet weights. Very skimpy, but still there's a little bit there to get you going Very excellent book excellent book the most important thing is something you just brought up and I haven't even taught thought talked about is lathe turning If you have guys any kind of lays in fact any machine tooling of any kind and any machine where you can get old of or if you inherit something don't get rid of it especially smaller older units because Either late turning to reduce the lip size of the rim, if it's a rim case, or perhaps even to turn down to a limited degree the body of a case, is another option because typically rifle cases on the inside, the chambering actually tapers to the base because of the way that a case is extruded or the way it's built from a blob of brass for all practical purposes. If you have to though, guys, let's point something out nobody's really talked about, but machine, especially with CNC, with little micro-CNC machinery nowadays, guys, there's no reason you couldn't just crank out piece of brass after brass milled from stock. Nobody's talked about this. I brought this up with somebody who said, well, yeah, it could be done. It's just that people use the traditional brass process for obvious reasons. The machinery's there in place. It produces millions around and it's fairly cheap. But if I needed to, and this is something that again from aluminum, from steel, from a number of different metals, or from brass, or even from copper, if I had stock of any kind, I could actually produce the case through lay the process as long as I have the dimensions. And that book sounds like it's one of the spec books where it actually gives you the taper, the can, the proper spec dimensions, right? It gives you everything from the diagrams of every dimension on that cartridge case. Yeah, and one other thing before I hop off and let the other caller in on to a very easy way to 762 by 54R is to boxer primed things and basically he uses a drill and very carefully drills out the primer pocket so that he gets rid of the little pitch shaped piece of metal the beard and primer to activate the priming compound and creates a little hole there. Then he takes a quarter inch copper pipe and he just with a little cut off wheel, whatever, cuts off a little piece of it. He uses a RCDS procedure, set into a large rifle obviously. And then he files it flat and then he just seats himself a large rifle boxer primer in there. If I go ahead, first of all real quick, because I don't want you to run off right away, give the information out for the author. And if you have the title for that video it would be great too so everybody can turn to it this morning. I appreciate that. The name of the book is the Handloader Manual Cartridge Versions. It's John J. Donalee, Two N's and Two L's. I'm sure you could get it from Brown L's. I don't know about Amazon. This is a phenomenal book. Also watch used bookstores if you've got any kind of D-SOR in the area. It may be sitting on the shelf from an earlier printing or the original printing. Right. The fourth is probably the tenth and it was published by some publishing company. And again, for everybody, a lot of people that have what I call and actually in the industry typically are called orphan routes. Stuff that is unique. You may have a rifle sitting at home that was built in the 50s. Now, it doesn't have to be a foreign gun. There are calibers that simply are not readily available right now. 30 Remington and 32 Remington are two good examples. When 30 Remington came out, it was top of the line. It was a very popular round and in fact was used by prisons, law enforcement. Also the .32 Auto. Another one, there's the .351 light rifle cartridge. All of these are semi obsolete, but there really doesn't seem to be any reason for it. Seriously, all three of the rounds were excellent rounds. For whatever reason, they fell out of favor, they went to the wayside, and now the only way you're going to find reasonably priced ammo is if you build it yourself. Pretty much. And if you've got an art caliber like the .33 Winchester, Yeah, there's another one. You know, something that we're even going to get at today, but definitely this book is worth its weight in gold because it tells you, okay, you don't have a 33 Winchester, you just need to also use a lot of the Bell brass for a lot of the larger that you come up with. Like not 45, 70 obviously, but you know, 45 caliber or not. And it's definitely that this book is worth its weight in gold. It's not a cheap book either, by the way, it's expensive. Excellent. Well, and again, that's one of the things what you did guys information No matter what it is, it's going to cost you something, but we've got it in book form You don't have to worry about a battery. It's ready to go. You're right And I'll get that that other link to you for the boxing version And then you can give that out as well. I'll get that off. You're pretty very good. Appreciate that. Thank you, sir. Good. Thank you. Bye now And again, we have another caller just before the top here. Do we have any other caller? Our next caller, jump in there and make noise. Don't talk right over me if you're there. Wanna leave anybody out? I know that we're looking at some change if you go out and buy new, but I would highly recommend and remind you that guys, a lot of resale shop stuff shows up that definitely is still serviceable, just may not be pretty. A coat of paint makes it pretty if you really think that's what you need. Okay, so just keep in mind small lathes small mills are out there and they're actually a lot less expensive than I think. However, another company that offers a China Sport solution, a title new sport solution, is Smithy. And we have the Yowli Outlet for Smithy, who's literally right down the road here. I mean, it's about 15 minutes away from where I'm sitting. They produce a couple of utility universal machines that for light-duty work, like what we're talking about, they'll perform the yeoman's job just fine, they'll get the job done. Now here's the music, we are at the top of the school, the third hour's coming up, second hour is closing now guys. It is Weapons Wednesday, you can find any 223 ammo, ammunition and brass tape, post in the chat room, or give us a call and let us know. Most of the companies sold out this last week, and pretty well have been lying sure what they had. Let's see if we can find the cash and stash somewhere and get it to our people first. 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