October 23, 2013
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Mark Koernke discussed weapons systems and ammunition availability on Weapons Wednesday, noting widespread ammunition shortages and high prices due to recent Washington D.C. visits by militia members. He reviewed specific firearms including AK variants, HK rifles, Suomi 9mm semi-auto rifles, High Point carbines, and pump-action shotguns from various retailers, analyzing cost-effectiveness and magazine compatibility. The show covered preparedness topics including battery management for optics and night vision systems, radio communications infrastructure testing in Michigan, and maintenance supplies like cleaning rods. Callers asked about VEPR rifle accuracy and magazine compatibility.
- ammunition shortage
- ak rifles
- hk rifles
- suomi 9mm
- high point carbines
- pump shotguns
- weapons wednesday
- preparedness
- radio communications
- michigan militia
- battery management
- night vision
- gun magazines
- centerfire systems
- vepr rifle
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Live 365. and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn holds they've sworn. And your daughters is... so their children will be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores. And send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight this? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of plan, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God, keep the torch of freedom bright as Iowa key vanished in this for once he came. And you will. come back alive good afternoon ladies and gentlemen this is the first hour of the afternoon intelligence report i'm our party one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and uh... behind the lines in occupied territories west southwest east and uh... norwitt well ladies and gentlemen you were listening to us on Liberty Tree Radio dot 4 mg dot com. We're on Indiana Freedom Talk Radio dot com. Also on AM and FM micro stations, CB base stations, and Ultra Net Technologies East and West of the Mississippi along with Alaska. We're on the Hallmark Network on Eastern Seaboard from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida. From the bottom of Florida across the arc of the Gulf of Mexico. Headed to Louisiana, Texas. Mississippi, Oklahoma, big chunk of Nebraska, a whole bunch of Wyoming to include both the 5th, the 3rd, the 5th, and our friends on the left side of the state rebroadcasting as part of the Seven Sisters. then Colorado yes only a trigger pull away from open conflict but meanwhile recalling another senator and they needed the governor the exact same way recall them both recall them all you do the petition why not carry a bunch get them to sign them all and target the aggressor accordingly throw Throw more dust and smoke up and chicken feathers where they need to. While they're busy worrying about one thing and saving their arse, the other one can be neutralized through effective petition and then ousted accordingly. Congratulations. Well, the left coast where we have the brown diaper stain and fine stenism vomiting its wretched filth and excrement across the landscape known as communism, the California Soviet Socialist Democracy, the CSSD, of course a beachhead for communist Chinese foreclosure and operations of the North American continent. The ground is being prepped. The traders have already made their deals. They're getting ready to hand that part of the country over. Turning back to the east, we sweep across the plains, leap over the burgeoning banks of the Mississippi and the Len and the Smokies, the Lenish and the Blue Ridge. Where the restaurant crews, grandma teams, okay teams, and the Ma Bell Grammar Consortium of retired telecommunications workers bring us the Golden Spike. Many hands make for light work a million Peddico junctions, the ability to continue to function when everything else is offline. I'll tell you it has been a very busy week already. We're at the middle of the week, guys. Today's date, well, we'll see. Do we have Dom there? And one and a two just want to be safe because I heard a few more dings don't know for sure. Okay. Well 23rd of October it is the fifth year of open Fabian socialist and Soviet socialist occupation of America with a K-2013 old earth calendar or Mayan crazy town Crazy town calendar. That's right. Unka-wunka-unka-oo voting notes bird feather chicken headdress on the top of your head plastic body armor green hula skirt that was left over from some of the knickknacks that were being sold out to the islands A plastic, fake obsidian knife in hand and dancing around the 13 foot tall, hand painted. That's right, resin Mayan pyramid. Unka, wonka, unka, ooh, unka, yes. Pigeons have been sacrificed. Cats and dogs, even an occasional slow child in the neighborhood. That's just what the Mayans are good for and meeting the heart after you're done. Remember, since there's nobody else you can share this with, they probably just ate the heart at home and were done with it but whatever they did and how big or small it was it did not properly satisfy the Mayan fire god and so it's just business as usual it's almost been a year since we were supposed to end the world under the Mayan calendar I'm not a Mayan so it's not part of my uh... shall we say uh... program or tradition you get the drift of course we do understand how that works too as they're sacrificing you can scream I don't believe I don't believe but They'll whisper in your ear before they plunge the knife into your chest? Ah! Crazy Town being what it is. Anyway, it is Weapons Wednesday. Dun dun dun dun dun. Say's personal life before the war planes. Ooh, Zee, Nein, believe me the carbine. Spaw-flow shotgun. Eh, wait a minute, when you do the 50. Oh no! Ah! Yeah, that's right, buddy, I saw this before. We already killed three of you guys. Hey, wait a minute, check out the body parts. Maybe we can sell them to Cybadine. Yeah, that's it. Anyway, well, having the right weapon in the toolbox is a good idea, and today is a little more specific than most. We're focusing on weapons systems. But one of the problems with that is what's been taking place over the last week. Everybody went to Washington that was really critical to the next phase in warfare against the police state. and they all got a chance to find out just how respectful and hateful all those pieces of trash in uniform and the executive branch is when it comes to national monuments, places to park, you know, just in general being little petty snotheads and abusive. Well, everybody went home and said, we're not listening, so everybody else listening to the people who came back said, we need more and more ammo, don't we? And everybody agreed. So unfortunately, there is Whole lot of stuff that is just going out and you're gonna notice the most common notation now is not Available for back orders now one or two items yes But the majority of what it is that they're now selling out of you will see not available for back orders sold out sold out sold out and Sold out now as you'd be surprised this includes a lot of nine millimeter and 45 even the steel case stuff is pretty well out the door and If you look around you may be fortunate enough to find a few locations where there's some odds and ends stuff left. Again, the expensive stuff is still there. We know that, guys. There are a few items. For instance, let's see, CenterFireSystems.com is taking back orders for 50 round boxes, temporarily out of stock, but they do have it. Cases? No. 9 millimeter in cases? No. They are not taking back orders for larger larger increments, but you want a 50 round box You might get it next time around and you're now paying for steel case Russian which used to be half this price You know paying almost $20 a box for something that you were paying about nine and eight dollars a box for not too long ago well actually if you're listening a lot of you already did because we told you what to do and you scarf the stuff up and A year ago, two years ago, so you're actually ahead of the curve and pretty well ahead all these other people who were kind of slow on the uptake there. So don't be surprised on that one. Now, there are a couple of weapons to definitely take into consideration that are available through Centerfire. SAGAs are now up around, oh hey, look, only $730 a pill. What? Vepers, which are comparable rifles, are running about $730 a piece also. So it's a toss of the coin as far as which of those you'd want if you're going to spend that kind of money. Conventional AKs right now, Romanian, etc., are running about as little as $500, $550, all the way up to and including Yeah, sky's the limit. On the other end of the price cycle, you can pay anything you want for a firearm right now. Now I will notice that there are a number of odd man out weapons. And one of those, as we pointed out, still not really any big, big wow. C93 223 transporter rifles. This is the HK Model 93. military standard battle, you know, like a salt rifle. Theirs is a real salt rifle, ours is a light rifle. But it's the parts gun made from HK93 parts and again the problem is it's a bugger mag. It's an off-the-wall oddball mag out. It isn't .223. There are parts kits available for this rifle so everything for this rifle is available in terms of spares and if you were to buy something like that I would recommend you go out and spend the money on the parts kit. Remember mags came down to as little as about $24 a piece for these but have crawled back up towards the $60 and $70 mark where they've been for quite some time. It ain't the razor, it's the blades that'll get you especially when it's an odd man out. Now it doesn't mean there aren't a bunch of these HKs out there in .223. Of course, HK has already got a number of other G-Rifles that go beyond this weapon, which was the post-Vietnam transition rifle for the German Army. And for other countries that bought it. But it is out there, it's just, well, if you look at it, you can buy an AK for how much in .223 or in .545. And the magazines are less expensive than the HK. And that doesn't mean that they're cheap. For the AKA magazines and the AKA 47 and AKA 74, it's about five for one. Four for one, five for one, or even six for one in terms of the price and value. So another thing you need to take into consideration there when you're looking at cost and expenditures, it's the magazines and the ammunition. Since you're already committing to a certain caliber, Then the ammunition price is fixed. In other words, if you're going to go to .308, your price is going to be fixed. You know what you're going to be paying for ammo. Then it's a matter of the rifle, which is your initial large expenditure, and then follow-up expenditure for perishables, and that's the magazines. The HK91, well, gone up in price, mags still cheap. In fact, there's a lot of mags, and if I were to buy a ScentMier and HK right now, right off the bat I'd tell you to buy 100 mags. Seriously, buy 100 mags. Aluminum, they don't have to be steel. You can get some steel ones if you want later. Start out by getting 100 aluminum mags. That's 20 rounders for, what, $2.50 to $3.00 a mag at the most. And the more you buy, the cheaper they get, by the way. Usually you can make a deal if you get a big lump of them. So your price will come down just a little bit. So the aluminum mags, which are again are in good quantity, are still probably one of the best buys and the HK is reasonable for a .308 rifle. However, two weapons out there, nobody's got any really super great prices on pump shotguns unless you find used and it's something you find local or something that the gun shows walking through the door, maybe on a private vendor's table. That's where you're going to find your best prices. The Suomi 9mm semi-auto rifles in 9mm, they have both the stick and the drum mags available for that weapon. The price on the gun itself is $450. So you're looking at a pretty decent firearm, built like a brick doghouse. I'm going to tell you right now, I don't think it's a light weapon. It is a heavy weapon. However, drums are available for $30 a piece and stick mags, which are 36 round mags, are available for $20 a piece. So this means that you've got still a good solution. That 71 round drum and that 9 millimeter offers a whole lot of firepower that you can just keep dumping into the target. Keep dumping into the target. Keep dumping. So a saturation weapon. Yeah, it might be kind of handy. Now you can affix a bipod. There's a number of solutions that are available for the Sumis now. and all of them are pretty cool. They're built like a brick doghouse too to match the weapon. But what they do offer is the ability for you to stabilize the gun platform where it does have a longer barrel as a carbine type rifle. Because it is a, it's not a submachine gun. Remember it's semi-auto so it's a light rifle. With that drum and a bipod, you've got a lot of firepower to suppress something with. and since everybody tells me that we're only going to engage it, I'm being facetious you know this, we're only going to engage it 200 yards, that 9mm hot parabellum if you got the hot round or the sub gun round in that rifle, wow, well, easily you can reach 200 yards and put suppression fire on target without any problem and a 71 round drum means you get to focus on firing not on changing mags. Well that's kind of cool. Yep. Just something to think about there. So again CenterfireSystems.com they're not the only company that has these but the company that they get them from is just down the road so they have an in so if they run out don't worry they'll get more at least for the time being the big thing is don't know how many drums they have but they do have them and It is a decent firearm now. It's heavy by comparison something we talked about this morning the high point light carbine and still out there in force but people are grabbing them as quick as they find them at the gun shows. The most affordable light rifle in its class you can buy basically two of the high points for the price of one of the Sumis but you can also buy three or four of the high points for the price of most of the AKs. So if you're looking for a 5-10 solution or a security rifle for a whole bunch of family members The 9mm or .40 caliber or .45 caliber high point carbine is an excellent choice. Now the big advantage is matching up the calibers to weapons systems you may already have or figuring that A, it might be a good idea to have a .40 caliber pistol around because you're going to be pulling ammunition off corpses down the road. .40 cal is one of the most common. 9mm being the other. Well, if you're going to put a .40 caliber in the inventory, you don't have to spend $300, $400, $400, $600 to get a .40-cal pistol. The high points in .40-caliber function flawlessly. They work well, and they're cheap. So you can have that sitting on the shelf with the six mags and one up the magazine well. And you've got enough firepower so you can deal with whatever you need to deal with and issue the weapon out or carry the weapon as needed as ammunition is available, or maybe the nine goes down and the .40 goes up. Wow, you could also have a battery of high point pistols, one in 9, one in 45, one in 40 caliber, and that way whenever something shows up you could switch out towards whatever, but your basic print is the same for sight. Your grip configuration is the same. Muscle memory is pretty much the same. Felt recoil is minimal and you get the job done. So high points are an option. Now do they have any? Well, I don't know if Centerfire does but I know other companies do so Let's see if we got anything left the inventory there for Centerfire systems comm and I don't really see anything yet, so You're gonna have to look around to other locations doesn't mean that they don't Because they have a whole whopping two pages of available in Torrey do you have some ARs again seven eight hundred dollars apiece? not a surprise You know if I was gonna spend that kind of money to be to be quite honest I was gonna spend 800 900 dollars on a weapon like that If the Russian pepper with a 21 and a half inch barrel is reasonably priced and fairly close I'd probably go with that because it's a gas-operated some automatic sniper rifle It will take the Texas Texas AK designs calm Magazine well option and you could use 223 mags in that VEPR 223 all day which gives you the best of two worlds. Plus you're looking at a long barrel system. It looks like a cross between an FN49 and a Trigonoff is what you're going to end up with. But it would be kind of cool to actually put something like that together. And again, it's a matter of what do they want to charge for that longer barrel. Those longer barrel guns are commanding a better price. Just that simple. Everybody getting greater range. Now they do have some .308 and .762x54R of vapors for $800. Well, it's $780 a piece. 23 inch barrels for both. Those are listed at CenterFireSystems.com. whether or not they actually have them in stock well that's another question all together so see if for sure well in theory they do so the peppers at least in the 308 are available for the 780 and out of stock for the 760 by 54 are and not available for back order so see they take that picture right off the rock off the rack anyway Wow, do we have a collar? Yeah, this is just fluffy. I had a question. Jump in there, go ahead. 308 and VEPR? Yeah. Being the AK action, I'm sure it's highly reliable, but do you believe it's highly accurate too? Yeah, the VEPR in 308 with a 23 inch barrel, yeah. That would be more than sufficient. I would actually, that'd be one of the rifles I'd be building up if I had the resources. Only because again I know that every APC is going to have 308 on it anywhere from 20 to 30,000 rounds per armored vehicle. Sometimes more sometimes less. It depends on how well we shoot it up and how many people get to it before we grab the goodies off it. But the 308 is a good option. The Vepers, the Dragunovs, more than sufficient for marksmanship at extreme range. The One thing I like is the 23 inch barrel. It's going to be a little extra length out there you've got to think through. These Vepers are with the rear station, not both of them. The one that's out of stock had the forward site post like the regular AK. The 308 has the recessed on the gas system site post front and that's what gives it that FN FAL or FN 49 look to it. Now, in this case, since I'd be using it as a kind of a sniper rifle, the .308 magazines are the issue. And while we have the one of the, forgive me, the Valme .308 project is pretty well done and they're testing them. They actually were on the range last weekend, but they're doing a test of failure to see if they malfunction. And we can't do that cheap, because .308 is not cheap, so they're incorporating it into other trainings so that everybody gets a chance to experiment. If this works and we haven't had a chance to check, they might have last weekend, I don't know, I haven't talked to the guys. Last weekend there would have been some Vepers there. One of the things we wanted to do is to test the M78 mag to see if it fit in the one that's modified from an HK. That's what the Finns originally did with their 308. They used an HK 20 round magazine and modified them. Those weren't cheap at the time, they were like $40, $50 a piece for the HK mags so nobody ran out and bought a bunch. Now where they're so cheap we could afford to convert them over. They may have tested it and if we're lucky the .308 Velma type magazine conversion may fit the VEPRA the same way. But the only way we'll know is if somebody actually took the time, put it in the weapon and actually used it a little bit. We want to see what that will easily extract and reintroduce. The big thing is width. Now the VEPRA is accurate enough. Purely matter of personal choice as far as the guy like the gas action itself It's going to be very forgiving even if it gets dirty if it gets crudded up It's still going to pretty well cycle through and that's a big plus plus in future operations Biggest thing is whether or not we can connect with the maintenance support all the time The AR lots of maintenance the AK not so much Go ahead, please. I'm sorry. Yeah, and the HK is very like the PTR 91 and HK 91 is very low maintenance really. Oh yes, no, no, I agree with that. The thing is that the PTR is everybody's scarfing them up too. If you can find it, the problem is, about as quickly as I pointed them out, they sold out. People had already been buying them and by the time even the postings and a lot of the pages are outdated. In fact, there's a lot of eye candy here where you turn to the page and you click. But when you know, oh look, there's a bunch of guns there, but then you start going through and looking at what they have and they should just put out of stock right across the image to save you time. Because you're clicking the stuff, it just doesn't exist and it hasn't existed for weeks. And they also state they're not taking any back orders, which means I don't think it's coming in for weeks if ever again. Right. Let's put it this way. Three years ago we were saying Sega, not Pepper. Yeah, and now we don't use Sega very often. There's a reason. I got that available very often. Yeah, and again that gets down to the whole thing. Remember FNFLs were the same way. The HKs, for some reason a few kits came in here recently. Somebody chopped something up or there was a little burp of them that came in. Apex gun parts had some parts and pieces, but also some major kits. The thing is now they're cutting the barrels. Before the lease they were leaving the barrels alone for a while. Pretty much no matter what the barrels going to be chopped. I don't know what the criteria is because there's one or two kits that have come in the barrels are intact. So it's a personal attitude thing with the inspector or with the district slash the region depending on where the weapons came in and interpretation from the business end. That's why again the even these other HKs that are being built the 223 HKs I would assume they probably are using existing HK barrels that came in way back in the 90s. Nobody had any kits, but they were barrels. So if you search around you could build those. Century International probably got some special dispensation or whatever anyway because they're the ones who are building these HKs. Not the PTRs, but the other 223s that are out there now. And they have been around for quite some time, but just not moving because nobody's excited. They do a quick check and it's like, the magazines are how much? Yeah, they're about low end, 50 for really rough, and 60 to $70 for standard. So it's like, wow, how many AK mags, even higher priced can I buy for the price of one, you know, 223 HK93 mag? So that's another reason that in the 223 niche or in certain categories, eventually if they eat up everything else, I can see people turn to the C93. It'll happen. But it'll only be after a long period of time towards the end of the cash rush when everything starts to go to Helen Hankhurst. Anyway, we're going to go to Fluffy. We're going to go to Break for a bit. Sound good? That's the mark. Okay, anyway we're gonna go to break guys. It's the bottom of the hour. You know, Indiana Freedom Talk Radio and Liberty Tree Radio right here. It's Weapons Wednesday. We all need to prepare ourselves. You might have the food, water, gold and silver, but ask yourself, are you truly prepared? That's why you need to visit MaineMilitary.com. MaineMilitary.com carries everything you need. Gas masks, fire starter kits, high capacity magazines, chemical suits, military surplus items and much more. Do you own a firearm? MaineMilitary.com has a large selection of pistols and rifles suited for your needs. Are your local stores sold out of ammunition? Call or visit them today for prices on hard to find ammo and bulk ammo orders. You don't need to worry about having a military surplus store in your area because MaineMilitary.com is the only store you'll ever need, all from the comfort of your computer. Visit them online today at MaineMilitary.com. 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To their posterity our heroes every hour you feel this country on a take it any longer golden days when the stars and stripes forever symbolize your glorious name how it's all been changed and when we gaze upon our glory it's hard to fight that feels of shame. In addition, our nation will have sold us our time and again. Earl Klang? one of his earlier albums there guys so for everybody out there if you get a chance just talking to Joe McNeil here about music inventory we're gonna be sending some stuff out his way and kind of trade not a little bit says just to reinforce his library and Carl some of the stuff we're gonna be sending out that way along with poker face Steve Voss etc just to make sure we got more of the same a few things they do and they do have and There's other things they don't. It would be a good idea for you to help us out by doing the same. Create your own library, not just on the computing physical system. Anyway, we still have Fluffy there. Fluffy, anything else? Well, Fluffy may of course decide to take a break or again, you pretty well settled, you know, what do you want to comment about? Appreciate that. For our friends in the chatroom, thanks for pointing a few things out. Again, I don't like cheap dirt. I really don't. I have no use for them anymore. But again, if we find something that's reasonably priced and you can get it, they do have it, and you guys choose to move in that direction, that's a personal choice there. Cheaper than dirt has, and if they do, then maybe a few other companies do a couple of $150 shotguns. Now the Rock Island M5 pumps I would say are probably Filipino or Chinese made could be either one But their Rock Island M5 pump action shotgun 12 gauge 3 inch chamber 20 inch barrel. That's a good thing barrel round five rounds polymer stock parker iced and They are $150 apiece item number G U N 3 2 0 that's item number G U N dash 320. It's the arms core 51329. Whoa. Zero number. It must be big. It's like a zip code. Anyway, that's not the only one. The one that was brought up in the chat room is also $150, and that's the Stevens Model 350. Now the interesting thing about this Stevens that I do like For all you lefties, they're always whining about how wide they always have to be right-handed guns. Well, they don't always have to be right-handed pump guns. In fact, the Ithaca has made a bottom feeder, bottom eject for years. Well, guess what? Turns out that Steven's 12-gauge shotgun STV 350, black with ghost ring sights, $150. Thanks for correcting this for me, guys. This is what I was looking for. I don't know where this gun was made, it's got Steven's name on it, but I will point out that this has been happening a lot where different companies have been buying product, having your product built overseas. However, plastic stock slash polymer stock, flat matte finish, ghost ring sights, that's $150, 18.5 inch barrel. Lots of pictures so you can take a look at it, at least give you an idea what to look for other places in the system. It's a 12 gauge, 2 and 3 quarter chamber, 18 and a half inch barrel, 5 round tubular mag, that's fine. Synthetic stock, matte black finish, matte blue carbon steel barrel, ghost ring sights, 38.25 inches overall length. Weight is 7.6 pounds. Oh it's too heavy! It should be the weight of an M4, only 5 and a half, maybe 6 pounds, but not 7. No way! I don't know if I can handle that! Yeah, right, you know, I'm joking. You know that, anyway. Uh, whoa. Well, high points they've got for about $222 apiece. High points a good pistol, but whoa, dudes. Okay, well, I knew that was gonna happen. Anyway, uh, so they capped over the $200 mark. Yeah, at least with cheaper than dirt. That's too bad. Anyway, $150 apiece for the shotgun slash pump action. It is a Stevens 12 gauge shotgun model STV 350. And the SQ number on that is gun-350. Gun-350, they're $150 apiece. Don't know if you can get a better price if you buy two or more. Let me know. We'll find out. If you guys want more than one that's a good selection. I don't have a problem with Stevens. This is a bottom feeder and bottom eject. So it's got that Ithaca kind of flavor to it. In fact, haven't had a chance to look at it that closely. It almost looks like an Ithaca action from a distance. If we get up close and take a look at the nuts, bolts, and screws you never know it might actually be an Ithaca contract gun. What would really be interesting is if Ithaca sold Stevens the Model 37 action. That's not the first time it hasn't happened where a big company has gotten rid of a major You know major gun that they later on wished they hadn't sold but Stevens model s TV 350 and it's a good combat piece you throw that to me I think I'd be happier they all be happy that model in a bird gun really wouldn't bother me either way Oh, it's not a combat gun. It's a bird gun Well, that's combat gun now hold still you think anybody on the other side is gonna no difference when you put holes in them? Nah, not at all So they do have two shotguns available through, again, cheaper than dirt. One is the Rock Island for $150 and the other is the Stevens model 350 for $150. Everything else? Well, not a lot pricier, but somewhat pricier. They've got a TA Attack Hawk pump, action 12 gauge, for $181. It doesn't look like there's any big jump or improvement there. So the, or I'm sorry, IAC. Oh, it looks like a T, but it's an I. Well, again, for the price, I think I'd go with the Stevens, to be quite honest. Is it toss up between the Rock Island and the Stevens? I'd probably go the Stevens. It's not the sites that sell me, it's just that if it's American made, the Stevens would be the better choice of the two. Just that simple. Anyway, we might have a caller. Who else do we have? And if we don't have a caller that's not a problem don't have to worry about that, but I would remind everybody again If you want to call in the number is 712-4320-900 Again, that's 712-4320-900 Then go to room 957-464-pound sign again, that's 957 4 6 4 pound sign take the time plug in check it out. See if there's something here useful Maybe you'd like to talk about and or you'd like to bring up we got dates times and places for the weekend There's a bunch of stuff that is happening as far as training operations. I will before I forget while I'm thinking of the weekend One of the other things is remember we will be doing a series of test runs for Confirmation, I thought I'd have it today. So far I do not, but Captain Monahan has not been passing through this last day or two. He should be down here any time. We will get a confirmation on the change in frequencies for our shortwave roundtable this weekend. Hopefully we'll have it tonight, maybe by 8 o'clock, cross your fingers. I might even have him up on the air and have him just give out the information. Last weekend during the test, a lot of the regular frequencies just had a lot of debris on them. Probogation was not good. And so we're going to play up and down the dial a little bit and see what else is going to work better for us. So those designated frequencies will be out. For 6-meter, it's where we have been with the test. And I will remind everybody, too, our friends in my old Michigan. Good afternoon, Myo, Michigan via CB channel 31 and others. You guys were in a test run this week for a day or two at Myo and then Myo will be getting one of the new, well, old and new, combination CB base stations and there will be a micro FM station put in place there also. So we'll do what we can to get the job done. And we actually, with the survey, will last no more than a couple days. And it can be done by either this evening or they'll be done tomorrow. Once they get a print, we have people to go around and we'll actually test the range of that particular transceiver. Then that unit, the mobile test unit, will be out. The new unit will be in. The new unit will be established on site and stay. Each one of the new locations is designed so that we get a certain amount of overlap In other words, with maximum range, we get a certain amount of overlap in the system for our radios. This means that we can have a very effective blanketed grid on standby, both with our CB radios and with our micro FM and AM stations. Now, the AM stations aren't a real problem. And in fact, remember, CB works pretty much the same way as conventional AM radio in all respects in terms of bounce. Everybody knows if you got metal surfaces use them. If you have water use it, especially the bigger the water surface or the again the depending on the ground plane and the water surface you have to bounce off from. Your range can be almost unlimited. Granted power is always better. Height is the big thing. Always remember more height means greater range. What we're doing right now with the CB base stations is testing actually the test unit is going around and testing The high ground location that the next transmitter is going to be located at, actually be transceiver, they aren't just going to be one way. The thing about base stations, I will remind you, is backups and backups and backups. One of the things I was doing today is bagging up handheld microphones, slash old police rig mics to be issued out to actually be on site with the radios that are going to be deployed. There are different pin configurations, know your radios, know what they need, find what you can and have it on standby. Why? Well, it's kind of like what happened to me yesterday. We had a headset here that started to act up. And I thought I had one I could turn around and go, oh, it's right there. Well, it was, but we already used that one up. I didn't know. I've kind of figured, well, wait a minute. Did we use two or did we use one? Well, we actually had to use the other for another studio. So what's happened is I had to quickly go through my tired and old pieces of equipment. And guys, we've been doing radio for 20 years. That's a lot of headsets. I don't even have all of them. Some of them were left on the other side of the state to be perused by our allies there. Virtually all hundreds, I would say. And we keep them all because some have been cannibalized, just like the microphones off the units have been taken off, re-soldered to other rigs. And we have another headset that will work for a period of time. If there's commonality in parts, there's ease in maintenance. Just remember that. So as it is, We do have again some announcements hopefully tomorrow I'm crossing my fingers because it's getting kind of tight and close Friday but we'll whatever day we have the information we'll pass it out. Also on oh you know we hadn't really touched on this but I've talked about night vision we've also talked about radio batteries but you know there's another area where illumination has become a real norm a common item and that is with weapons optics. A lot of you guys have different types of heads-up displays or different types of illuminated rectacles, etc. for your scopes and your rifles. The argument is whether or not you'll continue to use them, but typically the batteries that are used are alien or odd man out. And not always, because there are some two-third AA batteries that are in service with a lot of night vision and with some of the other pop-up or some of the other electronically supported optic sighting systems for the AR, the shotgun, whatever. It would be a real good idea to make up a spares kit and hopefully you've already thought this through and figured well if I was talking about one I was talking about the other just because it is, you know, again fairly efficient. Doesn't mean it's not going to run out of power. Cold saps energy from storage cells, period. no matter how efficient you want to be if you've got crud and junk, if you've got build up, if you've got detritus, if you're just playing, well let the power run down, you're going to need spares, you're going to need extras, you're going to have to have what you need on standby. You just run it. Most of this equipment is not designed for long-term run despite what everybody's been led to believe. Remember that there's different production periods when stuff is made. If it's on a Monday, they might be somewhat ambitious. By Wednesday, they're looking at the end of the month, end of the week, forgive me, by Friday, they're looking at the door. So there's a combination of factors that are also why you always make a point of securing certain weapons and pyrotechnics to include grenades, smoke, etc. Because you don't know if the person at the factory had a bad day. Same is true with surplus when we're looking at stuff or material looking at night vision or conventional optics, but what we consider a speed target optics where you have some kind of illumination system involved. Some of your equipment has lasers. Now I would recommend that a lot since a lot of these have watch battery type power sources, watching for the dollar store, you know big card with a whole pile of batteries is not a bad idea. Do they last any longer than conventional iron, the new supposedly alkali batteries that the Chinese are making now at the dollar store? No. Probably not much more in the way of a lifespan, in fact, comparable design. But the cool thing is that for a dollar a card, if you get 30 or 40 of them, you're not really out or anything. And again, remember just if you're not trusting of them, know how to disassemble, take out the batteries, and let the things sit neutral while it's around. But we should have the night vision system and other material to pass back by tomorrow afternoon. for a lot of other people that are looking for the next wave of stuff coming in. I would remind everybody that it's going to be a mix. Especially when it comes to battery packs and such I have been going through. I chucked a bunch of batteries that have been old, old, old and I just know I am not going to take the chance even to try and solar charge them. You need to be looking at the same thing. Mark your batteries. With the watch batteries buy a fresh batch put them on the shelf you pay a dollar for a card with 20 or 30 of them You know if you don't trust them if you have to toss them I know you hate that and I do too so there's other projects you can incorporate those older watch batteries in if they're on if they're a stored item Date them for when you put them in the system that way won't be worrying about when the next batch come in or whether or not you can make the dollar store you have someone on the shelf remember blinkies remember those blinky things we brought up on the communications Tuesday where you take a An LED doesn't have to blink but blinking is kind of cool because you can really attract people's attention that way but taking LED a little piece of cardboard some glue and a LED power supply which will be a watch battery and you've got yourself once you pull a little cardboard out of the way once you set it up in place you've got yourself an instant contact blinky or constant LED for well let's see if you get 30 of them per dollar that's about what three cents a piece you really can't beat that can you? And you end up with a light source you can leave out in front, you can put a little cardboard tag that you just pull out with a string, whatever you want to do, because the string can be hooked up so it doesn't just undo one but it does maybe two, three or four of them. Now you've got a passive illumination system nobody can really do anything about. and you can use the old batteries for that. You can even use old AA and AAA batteries for the same process if they've already been used for their primary purpose. That can be radio control technology, it can be radios themselves, not just control equipment. Whatever it is that takes those batteries, if you get a glut of them and the other batteries have any charge left but they're older, remember those can be used to make more LED blinkies with also. See how that works. Anyway, I think we have a caller. What do we have? Wow, that's kind of interesting. We may have a caller. I will reinforce this one more time again. The batteries, a lot of your night and daylight illumination, now are using watch batteries. They may stack them, but they're using watch batteries. So again, start to accumulate some spares, better something that works for at least a few hours, and then dies. Rather than a blacked out system, you can't use it all. See how that works? Especially for these little add-on sights that sit on the roof of whatever, especially for light rifles. Not probably going to use them for anything like a .30-06 or whatever, but just in case you have illumination on both of those types of optics, it would be a real good idea to have the batteries to back them up. If your unit takes the odd man out or the strange Vietnam, late Vietnam era, these are little coin type, actually not little coin, they're big coin, they screw in. You'll have to search around. You may find them fairly cheap, but they probably have a short lifespan on them because a lot of those have been stored for a period of time. A quantity just came out as surplus here recently. They are cheap, and the reason they're cheap is because the power charge is up and down on them, depending upon where they were in the stack, what day they were made, etc., etc. But they are virtually new surplus circa about 1972-73. The couple of companies that have them will even state, hey, we can't guarantee them, we just know that there's some charge left in them. You figure out whether or not they're worth the price at a couple dollars a piece. And actually they are. Even like I said, if they run for a few hours and then you have to let them set in wait, recharge up, you know, collect a charge, that's better than harsh language and no optics working at all. Another thing about the watch batteries and all the other batteries in the future you might want to consider the idea that you can drop those in places. Don't just toss them in a landfill. Remember that that's the kind of neat stuff that if anybody's doing any spectral read or if they're trying to do any metal read and using a magnometer on anything. Boy those batteries do create a spike. They make somebody feel real high confident that they got to go look for something. and so tossing those around an area just like old metal parts that we used to back you know for the last twenty thirty years in an area when somebody does a survey like that they're going to be finding junk everywhere well the batteries can serve the same purpose they'll give a big sound when the time comes which is cool so might want to take that into consideration another way to use the old batteries up when the time comes just to keep bad guys busy And, not a bad thing, but remember you can run the batteries and for like say systems such as LEDs right down into the ground guys, they will take them, you know, where the battery will appear to be dead, LED illumination will pull every last bit of energy out of that battery. So you really can't beat them for the price. Especially if they're cannibalized from other stuff and you improvise accordingly. Just something to think about there. And again, ideas, not just complaining about the problems. I won't have enough of fill in the blank. Well, then make this work. Well, I don't have much that well, then make this work. See how that is? So again, prior prep for plan, advanced piss, poor performance, advanced decisions mean that you are saving time. You already know where you're going to be going with your parts and supply system. Now, one other thing, cleaning rods. A solid cleaning rod is something that everybody should have. I know there's aluminum cleaning rods that are commercially available. There's even some solid rods that are out there. And if you take a look, the military ones, remember, are kind of handy when you get something stuck, whereas the aluminum ones have a tendency not necessarily to take a pounding or a beating. That doesn't mean it's going to be good for your rod, the rod you are carrying, but let's figure that just in case you have a malfunction, a failure to extract, a cleaning rod would be a real handy item that should be on your kit. If your rifle will carry one. Then pick it up and in fact throw a few extra pieces in there if you got an m16 cleaning kit You can throw a couple extra extension rods in there You can also throw a lot of extra goodies in there in terms of accoutrements that go on the kit or with the kit and you need spares if it's an AK type remember it fits or sits somewhere underneath the barrel for most of the weapons and Although there are still others that do have a cleaning kit that's breakdown usually it's cigar tin size The rifle itself usually carries the rod. The kit is carried as something that goes in your web gear or goes in your utility bag someplace. That varies depending on what era, but they are well made and they will take a lot more abuse. Just keep in mind that that case just happens to be just a little stiff. It won't extract out, but at least it's halfway out and you can see it. Tapping that out with something or being able to do so makes all the difference in the world. As far as a hammer goes, hey, raw. This service... Access code accepted. There are 10 participants in this conference. This conference is being recorded. Please announce yourselves. And make sure that everybody understands that there's a problem if one exists. Anyway, I've heard a few more dings. We're almost to the top of the hour. Anybody else? If we have a caller, I don't want to leave people out of hate to do that. Alright, I hear the music. Well, as I pointed out guys, if you have to wait for something to show up, I want to plan ahead and have spares. We got a lot of guys waiting for batteries right now that are custom batteries. That happens. If you have to wait, you wait, but buy a few extras. 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