October 17, 2013
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Mark Koernke discussed Colorado's recall efforts against state senators who voted for gun control legislation, emphasizing the importance of sustained citizen activism and organizational tactics. He provided detailed guidance on ammunition maintenance for corrosive ammunition types, particularly 7.62x54R, and fielded caller questions about black powder firearms and banking security. The episode covered strategies for political recall campaigns, firearm maintenance protocols, and warnings about capital controls on bank accounts.
- colorado recall
- gun control
- second amendment
- evie hudak
- john hickenlooper
- corrosive ammunition
- 7.62x54r
- black powder
- cap and ball
- bank capital controls
- communist manifesto
- citizen activism
- preparedness
- michigan militia
- federal government
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Live 365 You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children will be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Both sons of the Republic arise. Take a stand. Defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land. Preserve our great Republic and each God given right. And pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch in tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Remember your training and you will come back alive Well, good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. This is the second hour of the afternoon intelligence report. I'm our kirky. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines in occupied territories, south, southwest, central, and north. Ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to us on Liberty Street Radio dot 4 mg dot com. We're on Eamon FMI Cross Station, CB Bay Stations, good afternoon Channel 27, Channel 29 and Channel 32 test program in Muskegon this afternoon through to this evening to midnight. We're also on alternate technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska. Good afternoon to the red flag stores across the whole of Alaska. They're the relay points for a lot of data streaming that goes on. Well, back to the East, the Hallmark Network, from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida. From the bottom of Florida, across the arc of the Gulf of Mexico. Headed Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, Oklahoma, big chunk of Nebraska, a whole bunch of Wyoming to include both Pitt III, V, and our seven sisters rebroadcasters. Along with Colorado, where the Civil War is only a trigger pull away. It's only a shot away. It's just a shot away. It's just a shot away. Hey, that's that song from the... Back during the hippie days, man! Then, turning to the left coast, speaking of, well, plastic irrelevant hippies, the brown streak in the diaper along with Feinsteinism vomiting their wretched Soviet filth across the landscape, turning California even deeper into the California Soviet socialist democracy that it is. A beachhead for communist occupation, they'll be prepped and ready for the landing when the time comes. Back to the east, sweep across the plains, over the Mississippi, letting in the Smokies, where the restaurant crews, Grandma teams, OK teams, and Ma Bell, Grandma Consortium bring us the Golden Spike. Many hands make for light work. It is a rainy day here in Michigan. We're not the only ones getting rained on it. It is the 17th of October. It is the fifth year of open Fabian Socialist and Soviet Socialist occupation. of America with a K 2013 Old Earth Calendar or Mayan. Crazy Town Crazy Town Calendar that's right there's that nutcase next door. He's got a one anniversary first anniversary sign up. He's gonna try and make up for lost time. The Mayan Sun God. Unka, Unka, Unka, Unka, Ooh! Unka, Unka, Unka, BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLE The old the inhumanity the horror that's right. He broke out the grass skirt. He's got the plastic body armor on Yeah, the chicken feather headdress with the bright green and red the plastic bone through his nose That's pretty disgusting and he's got that fake plastic obsidian knife and his 13 foot tall Hand-painted with human fake entrails along with chunks of body hearts and parts. Yeah, it's the Mayan sacrificial nutcase next door and he believes, he really believes that they were just off by a year and if he starts sacrificing turkeys, cats, dogs, the pigeons and everything else, the world will be right and we will be consumed by flame. So beware and oh look he's turning towards you. There we go the 12 gauge settles that one real quick doesn't it 12 gauge versus plastic Chinese made obsidian knife. Oh, wait a minute fake obsidian. Well, I'm not even very good. Oh, I didn't even have a solid shank through the grip It's okay. Mr. 12 gauge took care of that one didn't he? Yeah, and now you got to figure out what to do with the 13 foot tall pan-painted Mayan You know what? Turn it upside down Dig a hole turn it upside down make a duck pond Not a very big one. Make a duck pond. See? There's things you can do with it. I don't know if it'd be a cultish or wicked or evil. You know, because it is a pyramid. So you got that energy powery thingy in the middle of the pyramid. If you turn upside down and you used it for a duck pond, would you end up with demon ducks or something? If I miss something there... Ah, it's possible! It's possible. You never know. So anyway, just something to think about. Yeah, we're coming up on the first anniversary of doom and destruction. We're all going to die, the Mayan calendar. For all you Christians who are worshipping the Mayan calendar, shame on you. You should know better. Anyway, a couple things here and going down through a very good battery of articles done here on From the Trenches, worldreport.com, Henry and the crew are doing a great job. Don't slow down, keep it up. I would remind everybody that there have been a lot of activities. Of course, we had the woman that was in front of the Congress that did her part. She did her job. Gutsier than pretty well 99% of the men in the country right now. She's right in the middle of the heart of darkness and decided to say something. That's cool. Okay. But another one here. Thank you, Colorado. Ooh, raw. All I can say. Colorado renews effort to recall third state senator. I say go for more. Go for more. Go for more. Go for more. Go. Go. Go. Okay. Colorado renews effort to recall third state senator. Ben Swam Truth in Media by Joshua Cook. Now the quick one on this, let's see how long this article is, I'm going to read it all because this is an example of what can be done right now. Keep beating on them. You know what? When you're boxing you actually throw punches that aren't a critical punch. Guys, you do understand that. We have what are called combinations. Well, why didn't he do better with that punch? Why didn't he do better with that punch? What he- Oh, wait a minute. One, two, three, and one, two, and one, two, three, four, five, and... Wow, his lights are out. See how that works? Well, the idea behind it is do to them what they try to do to you. turn on the enemy and bite them in every direction you can, like what Don was talking about with the cable stations. Remember, they don't hear everything. So if you go at one group, go at one group with a plan from one direction, you go at the other group with another, and you go at yet another group, the enemy has to waste their energy playing little Dutch boy. They figure they're doing that to you and you're small so you can't handle it. Well, even if they're bigger, they can't handle it. We outnumber them. We outnumber them. Now let's get focused and start beating on them. Get their people fired. Get their people put out of a job. Demand that they're part of the bureaucracy be put out of business because it should. See how that works? It's like the Park Service. They all showed you what kind of trash they are, didn't they? This mock shutoff, you got to see what the National Park Service, what those communist peckerwood pieces of trash are up to. You got to hear all the double speak that they were preaching proudly. Made no sense. Made no sense whatsoever. But then again, remember we told you about bootlickers? They'll lick anybody's boot that's in power. Mmm, yeah! Yes, they will. Colorado renews effort to recall third state senator. This is posted for October 17, 2003. and it's Ben Swan Truth in Media by Joshua Cook. The effort to recall Colorado State Senator Evie Hudak is on again. The Westminster Democrat seemed to successfully evade recall in August, but the recent success of two other recall elections combined with the inflammatory statements during the state's gun control debate have prompted a renewed effort. Alright, keep going, keep going. The group has already raised well over $6,000 and $7,000 in non-monetary contributions, as well as attracting many volunteers. Colorado's gun control laws put the state in the national spotlight last spring. The package of bills passed and the few which failed to comprise some of the most stringent anti-Second Amendment legislature in the country. Though Governor John Hickenlooper, yeah he goes right there with Mittenblocker there and the other, and Houduck, you know, Houduck. Anyway, she does sound Klingon. I didn't think about that. Anyway, Hickenlooper, who does not sound Klingon, said he didn't believe signing the legislation would hurt his re-election bid. The backlash from Colorado citizens was stronger than anyone could predict. Now that means that of course also Hickenlooper signs, Hickenlooper propaganda, anything about Hickenlooper, it used to be, you know, like Schickelgerber. Hicken, hicken, gurber, shiggle, grouper, evil, bad, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, okay? Don't put a guy back into the governor's office with that crazy mustache. Yeah, see that's what you do. You throw all their propaganda where they've conditioned everybody else, put them in that seat and keep them there, okay? Use their own BS on them. Anyway, now again guys, just off the top of my head, we can do better than that. We can do really a lot better than that. We can make that person one step below fly feces if everybody stays focused. And that character will be out in his ear too. Actually he should be recalled now. Why would you wait until the election? Recall Hickenlooper. Recall Hickenlooper. Recall Hickenlooper. Seriously. While you're going around to get rid of the other punks, go after him. While you're doing one petition, get him to sign others. Oh yeah! and keep going at it keep going at it keep going at it doesn't make any difference the idea behind is a freebie since you already got people signing stuff get them to do another clipboard it's real simple guys just make sure that you do it right so you get it done right now forgive me anyway John Caldera and the majority of the state's sheriffs filed a lawsuit against Hickenlooper successful recall petitions were circulated and elections held against senators Morse and Ghiram Hickenlooper's popularity rating dropped by nearly 20 points nearly overnight. The 51st state initiative was formed advocating the secession of Colorado's rural and conservative counties and 11 counties referred the issue to ballot with more strongly considerate. In many ways, Hudak was the most obvious recall candidate. Not only did she have an extremely liberal voting record, including on the issue of guns, she also made notoriously inflammatory remarks toward a young rape survivor. When Amanda Collins said she would not have been raped had she been allowed to carry her concealed weapon in a college campus, Hudak replied that statistics weren't on her side. Really? Well, the six voting candidates, er, I should say six voting members who would have been in her revolver or more if they were in a magazine would have demonstrated that the numbers would have been in her favor. Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. Okay? The important thing is just make sure you make them all hit. It's the only thing we ask. Don't just spray and pray. Practice, practice, practice. Hit the target, hit the target, hit the target. Okay? Houdek replied that statistics weren't on her side and that she had a gun she probably would only have increased the danger in the situation. Yeah, right, she was raped and all that could happen is, well let's see, a lot of times, let's see, what is that chant that a lot of the barbarian hordes use? Rape, kill, pillage and burn. They're gonna rape, kill, pillage and burn and eat babies. Rape, kill, pillage, oh wait a minute, after the raping usually comes the killing. So the stupid twit who in her desperation to promote her liberal BS is gonna, well, side with the barbarians. What can we say? I don't doubt it, since typically those same communist pieces of trash are all pushing for the red terror in America. So of course they don't want all of you people to not be a victim. You need to lay down in the trench and let them put a bullet in the back of your head and be a good victim. And if it happens that some of the rapists and murderers do that first, their logic is that you and I are nothing but useless eaters and if we're done away with by some of their, you know, shall we say low end assistance, then that's a good thing as far as they're concerned because you and I don't deserve our lives. We need to be, we'll either be killed by the pressure from below Shysters or the pressure from above Knuckle Draggers. Take your pick. And that is the mindset of these bottom-feeding socialist pieces of trash. Anyway, the first two-deck recall was suspended in August simply because the activists were not organized enough to get 20,000 signatures before the deadline. Its renewal, though, has become part of the latest wave of citizen activism and would eliminate the Democrat Senate majority. Good. Well, don't just go after them. Don't go after one. Go after every one of them. Any of them who voted are good enough for reason. If they voted in favor of going after the guns, get them out. Go after them. At the very least, it's fun because you want to put more fire under their arses. You want them to not be comfortable any day. They laugh and think they're gonna do that to you with all kinds of pressure denying food Preventing jobs in America by shipping them overseas all this other communist garbage. It was done by these global internationalists is Designed of course to hurt you and to make you of course get into angst mode well them, too And that's why guys don't think, I mean it's good, you have one focus which is your primary mission, but you do it again and you do it multiply. Always remember this, don't do one. If you got everybody in motion, get everybody else to start doing the same thing and you do it again, you do it the same way again. You kick this one out. Let's say that you get, you know, Hackdack, Houdack, Bigdack, whatever it is, out. Well even as you're doing the petition for moving in that direction, now you get another three or four of them targeted. and it doesn't go all the way but you know what you do? Now you snag a third one and you fire that fool. Now you have the ability to plug in the wave again and show people you know those other three we just snagged around the list? See we can fire them too so now let's focus on that again. Let's do it again, do it again, do it again. Combat operations kids, boxing by round. Of course you could have just one big long boxing round but typically it doesn't work that way in modern sports. Okay? So you have a series of rounds. We don't give them any breather. Keep kicking them. Keep kicking them more. Kick them a lot more. Give them nothing. Take everything. Remember that line from 300? Yeah. We will give them nothing, but we will take everything. Well, of course. That's the whole idea. Anyway, the group Recall Houdak 2, 2, T-O-O, or you know, play in words, 2 as in number 2, has until January 4th to gather the signatures and says it's learned a lot from the Morse and Giren recalls. Indeed, they say their biggest problem right now is having too many volunteers. No, it isn't. No, never. Never. Never, no, never, no, never. I don't want to hear that ever. You don't have too many volunteers. You want to know why? Because some of the people you're going to get aren't your people. That's another thing to warn you about. There are people that will demand to wheedle towards key positions and then it turns out they're not there when they're supposed to be. Better that you have twice, three times, or four times as much manpower on the ground for an action as opposed to these key people that just seem okay and it turns out they're plastic politician types. Warning, Dangerwell Robinson, there's something that you never say. I need more volunteers. We'll be happy with all the volunteers that want to step in and if more people want to show up then we've got clipboards for them to take out and get people to sign. Don't ever say that. That by itself is a foolish and stupid statement right there. Sorry guys, but that's the only way I look at it because you won't have enough. If you got somebody willing to step forward and you don't know who everybody is anyway, you never will, because that's just how it works. You got a whole bunch of people in different areas where you aren't normally familiar with them. Well, as a precursor to ensure success, you don't turn people away. Understand that. Just get better unit managers. You have straw bosses. Their job? You're going to take this group. Anybody know these people are here? Okay, you're going to take this group. Congratulations. It's for today. This is how it works. Whoever shows up next, I'm going to point to somebody else. You get the magic clipboard with a golden pen. All the rest you have the clipboard with the black pen. The guy with the golden pen is your team leader. Congratulations. When you come back tomorrow, whoever gets in here first, if I look cross-eyed at him, you're going to have the clipboard with the golden pen and you get to be the straw boss for today. That's how you have to operate under the assumption that for all the people that promise they'll be there time and time again, don't be surprised at what happens the second day. So the first day you grab every swinging body part you got if you get my drift guys and you move them all towards the battlefield Second day if you're lucky and half of them show up Fantastic if you're really lucky maybe all of them show up at they're really motivated and actually are honest But on the other hand, you know people start to look at stuff and it looks like you always gonna be party hardy and have coffee and do nothing then all of a sudden look like WRK Well work some people are very allergic to that And so they'll either try to sit on their dead arse back at the headquarters or they'll just not be there. Oh, I just realized I got something else I got to do. You remember we're going to do the same thing we did yesterday and it looks like work? I got to go. Telling you. Seen organized too many things before people that first day. Anybody you've got, you better be pushing them towards a fight. Take advantage of the mass you've got put it everywhere you can on the ground as quick as you can Give them a task get them the clipboards be ready for that too Make sure you've got everything you need without any downtime have everything copied up have extra clipboards have all the stuff you need information packs Make sure you've got a video ready so you can everybody sit down if you get another wave of people come in that are late Yeah over there. We got a bunch of chairs. There's a TV with a VCR or a CD there watch the CD It'll explain what you got to do. That is what you do and nothing else Watch the video it explains to you how to do it. Congratulations, we got to go. You're the next wave. Fred, you're the straw boss. As soon as they're ready to go, they go out. Anymore come in? Load them up in the machine. Give them their gear. Point them to the battlefield. Give them another district. Get them out there now. Seriously guys, this whole thing about not how I got too many. Oh the hell with that. Some are still naysayers though with Republican officials like Colorado GOP Chairman Ryan still opposing the attempts. Well, of course, he's a political hack. This time saying they may interfere with 2014 elections which will include both gubernatorial and Senate elections. I say go after the governor. I go after him anyway. Seriously, seriously, seriously, go after the governor. impeach the governor, clock and pooper, poop and whacker, whatever his name is, who cares, just make sure you get the spelling right. And when he's done killing grouper, hick and looper, whack and whooper, well in fact, you may want to add a few extra ones just to make sure, just in case he's trying to mess with us on the spelling. So again, hick and looper should be out on the zero before the election, wouldn't that be fun? I think so. You got plenty of time. Elections not till next year, the end of next year. You mean you can say you can't get your act together in a matter of weeks? Come on, people. Stuff like that is like, oh, I don't know if I'm being, you got a whole year. And you got lots of volunteers. You got them coming out your ears, you said. Well, since you got them coming out your ears, use them. Okay? Let's see, some people expected citizen activism against Colorado's leftist government to peak with the Giron and Morse victories and then Wayne. This has not been the case though and in fact the victories may have only inspired more people to get involved with the idea that successful opposition is actually possible. What have I said before about this? It's feudal resist, you'll be absorbed BS. Everybody has finally figured out. It's like, well, took one woman to stand up in front of the sentence, weedle her way to the microphone. You guys are all Satanist nutcases. You cannot serve two masters. You're all Satanist nutcases. Well, she did the right thing, didn't she? Or did she do something wrong? What did she do wrong? Please tell me. Anybody. Don't pick apart. Whoa, whoa, whoa, what did she do? What did she see? What has it finally made her go, huh, you know what? You said what? What did you say? I mean, can you imagine all the different things you've done? Well, she was maybe handled. Okay, well, however you look at it, it really was a downer for whoever the bad guys were. Well, she shouldn't have said anything because it makes everybody think, what makes everybody who think? What? The queers think that she's crazy. The liberals think that she's crazy. Our enemies think that we're crazy. So what is your point? You've always whined about not getting into the heart of darkness and hacking and chopping with the battle axe. Well, some little lady with a skirt just hacked and chopped with a battle axe and a microwave using a microphone for a few moments. She did, in fact, went right into the center of the enemy's camp. That's about as center of the enemy's camp as you're going to get. The only thing that's comparable is, and this is why they all were told by the Poobahs and the rabbis and all these other sheisters, OY! Vee gonna come, vee gonna back off, because too many people are connecting the dots and the more that they watch this petty BS that they all said to have happen. Obama did not think any of this up. I want that understood. That POS, Obama, Barry Sartor, whatever the hell his stinking name is, he doesn't have any control. He puts B-O, he puts body order on the paper. Okay, everybody, I hope you have noticed how he signs his name. A big B, squiggle, squiggle, squiggle. Oh, squiggle, squiggle, squiggle. And if you're looking for, I never notice that, I don't bother watching what he does, but it's like, B.O. That would be kind of embarrassing, wouldn't it? Of course, it could be, you could take his other name, you could either be Barack Obama, that's body odor, or it could be Barry Zataro, and that's B.S. Ooh. That's not good. I guess B.O. is better than B.S., right? I don't know. The post ink. I mean, come on. He could be, he could smell like a polecat. Maybe he hasn't washed in seven months. Come on, you don't know. We don't smell the vision on television. Okay, BO, body order, or Barry Satoro. B-A-S, as in bull, hip. Okay, you figure it out. Pretty sad. Well, I'll tell you what, ain't no sense in running because you'll only die tired, so you might as well turn fixed band heads and finish them off. I tell you, we're almost to the bottom of the hour break here, I think. I think we're going to the bottom of the hour break. We're right at the bottom. Ed's going to be there switching us over in a minute. He's taking care of something real quick here. But for all of us out there listening, it is, of course, Thursday. Tomorrow's Friday. Well, gee, that's how it works, Thursday, Friday. But we have a lot of advanced party work that's going to be done early. In fact, I believe that at Camp Ogama, the Oghammer Ranges. They're going to be there tonight and a reminder on that our engineers have decided to advance their maintenance schedule for the Oghammer Ranges. Guys, by the time you get there on Saturday, especially for the Colonial Marine units, they're going to be using the pop-up shotgun range, the new design urban variable geometry buildings. Once I put together, I got three more sections out here actually. I need to have them pick them up. But the whole system is going to be in place. You're going to have moving targets, pop-up targets, you're going to have rail targets, and it's all going to be ready to go Saturday. So you guys are going to have some definite, shall we say, range candy going on this weekend at the Oghammer Ranges. We're going to go to break. We are just, uh oh. And real quick, I had to save the kitty cat. Hope was deciding he was a good partner to play butt heads with. Oh boy, oh yeah the goats been going after. We have this gray cat that was kind of dropped off that is just the biggest baby you can imagine. And yeah, she's been moving around. She's been actually showing whose boss the cats all day too. That's the other problem. We have the one pygmy goat. She's not very big so she has this probably attitude that I've got to show you. I'm big. So she acts accordingly. Anyway the cats probably go, so thank you Lord please keep me in the building. As it is, this has been a bizarre week and a bizarre month and it shouldn't be a surprise because you're dealing with a twilight zone in Washington in the outhouse on Pennsylvania Avenue. That fool doesn't do anything. He does not control anything. We'll be back. Steve Voss right here on Liberty Tree Radio. That was Steve Voss from his Best of album. Steve has done many many different Patriot songs back when it wasn't popular to do Patriot songs because that was evil until they needed us to kill Arabs again. Then around the time of 9-11 they had to pull a whole bunch of plastic Chinese flags out and they figured the patriotism as long as it lasted as long as the Chinese flags deteriorating on the flagpoles that everybody forgot as long as it lasted that long that'd be fine and then of course Barry Satoro and hate America would be plugged back in and they'd start to spit on the flag and everything else and look what's happened What a surprise! Of course they figured they wanted to test to see if they got everybody so stupefied we just go brain dead into Syria and help to kill Christian women and children there and nah nah Barry maybe you first. In fact I tell you what Barry Satoro we need you to show us and lead by example you commander in chife that says in bad diaper okay. Mr. Bad Diaper in the outhouse if you would please jump into that uniform you used to have. I know you used to wear a uniform, right? You know, you're real happy as a screaming leftist piece of trash throwing other people into the meat grinder. Not that I would consider George Bush any better because he wasn't any different. Wary Bush, number two, best president Mexico's ever had. But good old Barry, show me by example, Barry. Jump into that uniform, get into that lead tank, and you can take us to Syria, Barry. Yeah, right. And I'm a Chinese jet pilot named Lao Zee. Okay, so we all know better than that, don't we people? Yeah, we do. Being totally facetious because you know that skunk coward ain't going anywhere. Then in fact the Ford Foundation and all the dweebs that helped to put this fool into place and you know finance the development of this boy from Brazil just like the other boys from Brazil that they have propped up in different places. Nah, I don't think so. Anyway, we all know he's not in charge. We know he doesn't really have any power except for BO, body order. He signs body order on his paperwork all the time. Which is really weird because you see B and O, but no middle initial. The way it's set up. Not constructed. I mean when you look at the signature, the Wichen of itself is rather fascinating. So, you know, the Barack Obama. Barack Obama. What's the middle one? What he was mumbling. I can't I can't how did he pronounce his middle name? But job about yeah, okay. I'll tell you something right there. You mean Hussein? Yeah, oh He hates out of you anyway as it is real quick here a couple other things going on guys cheaper than dirt also has some 762 by 54 are Ammunition I would remind all of you that when you're looking at this I don't know how much non-corrosive in the Hamtins is left out there. Most of the stuff that seems to be showing up now is corrosive. Now, the good thing, if you bought a Sega rifle or a copy of the Dragunov in whatever model, Chinese, the Romanian, typically they have chrome bores if they're factory guns. factory produced. Now the cool thing is all the SAGAs were chrome bore weapons. They were coming out of the Russian arsenals but let's assume the worst of them won't be disappointed. Wherever there isn't any chrome, though the oxidant that will be attached to the metal parts will create oxidation on the steel, on the carbon steel that is exposed. So the basic rule, if you pick up any of the 760 by 54R ammo, you must clean your weapon. And I don't mean a cursory cleaning where you just run a rod down the barrel. Wrong! You need to clean the weapon thoroughly. You need to clear the weapon thoroughly. This means a working knowledge of how to break the gun down and clean the individual components. Washing them first with soap and water is your best choice and then wiping them dry making sure you get all the moisture off that way you prevent any additional oxidation. Water is far worse than, you know, less corrosive than the oxidant that you applied when you pulled the trigger and that mercuric primer did its chemical wash on the tube with the powder. It's not so much the powder, although many of the powders are corrosive too. We have a mild corrosive agent that is developed when they are carbonized. But it's the mercuric primer typically again because its reliability is phenomenal. It was not a bad thing in that respect. If you're making crude ammunition we would want to build mercuric primers if we could because of their reliability in bad or inclement weather and in bad construction slash assembly conditions. That's why corrosive is so popular with these other countries. Do you think that their standards were as high as the U.S.? No. Now the Russians have been doing progressively better and their arms plants improved Once they got past the Stalinist era to a degree, but not by much And needless to say there at least it's cleaner than the Chinese arsenals if you've seen any of those it's like oh my god It's a coal factory. No. No. No, that's a regular factory, sir And the conditions are about as abysmal and dark and mean as you could imagine But they still produce stuff and it comes out the other end of that factory kind of looking like it should okay, but Again, with all these systems, you know, the Bulgarian, Romanian, even the Russian stuff that says it's non-corrosive, look at the head stamp. If the head stamp is somewhere in the 60s or 70s, even though they might say, well, this batch is said to be non-corrosive, I wouldn't trust that. That's just Mark again from experience guys. No army is like the US military and again I'll point this out. If you have US military surplus while there is a cut-off date about 1955 for Mercuric primers, there in reality well they kept using stuff that they were finding in storage arsenals all over the place. The best example of this is during the Korean War the experimental steel case ammunition that was made at the end of World War II for a test, those cases were resurrected. The stuff that was in the system was processed the rest of the way. Bullets that were available, primers that were available. They worked and the logic was, you know what? You're going to clean your weapon anyway, right? You're going to clean your grand. Yeah, so guess what we found about a batch of like 416 or 412 primers from 1942 We're not gonna let them go to waste because they're only a decade old and they've been properly stored We've done a cap test on them run them We need them for the war effort. Congratulations. We need them for production. That's why any of the ammunition from the early, middle, and into the late 50s, even though you can find the cross-referencing sheet, and it says, and I can show them to you. I've got them from 40 years ago. Cross-referencing, it says that, hey, if it was done in Lake City Arsenal 1956, it should be non-corrosive. I wouldn't trust that. I would like to, but I would still assume that it might be, you know, again, I could have gotten that odd run because somebody found Palette 2248 and Palette 258 over there in the corner and there's half a million primers that were from, you know, the corrosive era and they're not going to throw those out. They're not going to let those go to waste. It doesn't work that way, kids. If it's spec, it would be used. And that's simply, again, what they would be a policy under the logic that they were consuming so much ammunition during the Korean War that it wouldn't be an issue. See how that works? It's why a lot of the other stuff was resurrected like carbine ammunition. A lot of stuff that was carbine from the end of World War II was resurrected for the Korean War and nothing went to waste. We've got to call her. Who do we have? What do you got George? I don't understand black powder too much. Okay, well wait a minute. First of all, it probably won't be a cartridge gun, although there are cartridge guns that are black powder. None of them that are made right now, unless you're buying a classic, something that was made in the era, most anything made this modern, if it was an original design, is going to be made to modern metallurgical specs. In fact, that's one of the things I've been pointing out for years. If you're looking at maybe like a Remington cross strap, revolver in 44. They make them in stainless. I would spend the extra money and get them in stainless unless you're strapped for cash. You got to remember with black powder it's going to be corrosive. You got to clean it. So if you're gonna do the black powder in a standard Remington, not a problem, just remember you've got to be religious about cleaning your weapon. Even with the stain- even with the stainless, it's still true. But the stainless guns or the- or the the blued steel are of a very high metal standard way beyond anything that was done back when the original guns were made. So they're- and they're not going to be cartridge guns. The only thing that it's gonna- if it's cap and ball, it's cap and ball. that black putter cap and ball in 36 or 44 being the most common there are some 45s The dragoons, you don't see many of those around, but the dragoons models were out there for a little bit back through the Civil War reenactment era. And those things are pretty kick-ass, but again, it's a heavy gun. Now you can load those to the same spec as the .357 Magnum, and you can load the Remington cross-straps pretty hot too. The navies you've got to be careful of, because the Navy standard .36s The nature of the frame, but they'll still hold up well with a standard charge, and they will kill somebody dead dead dead I think they did a pretty good job of the Civil War go ahead. We got another caller. Yeah, this is fluffy. Hey fluffy two happen ball pistols one of them the the uberty 44 Cal Cap and ball and the other one is one of the Remington stainless steel 45 caliber yep, there we go right about the Being corrosive I left the uberty blue steel one unclean for a week, and I had to soak it with Break free to get it to move again to free it up. Yeah, that's why I'm saying you got it one thing now pyro decks Take some of the edge off that but not much, but pyro decks also You have a you have a little lesser Smoke discharge. It's less corrosive, but still corrosive In both cases, the first rule is soap and water. I don't care, again, even if you couldn't get around to doing everything else, just doing the soap and water bath by itself is enough to completely change the formula. And that should be something, the first thing you do is wash it before you do anything else. And that's totally contrary to what anybody would think to do with a metal weapon. But it's because of the powder itself. And you keep the weapon clean. Use a mild dish soap. Some people like using just a regular tide detergent. But whatever you use, it's the idea that the soap and the water both neutralizes the corrosive and floods and irrigates the parts so that the corrosive component isn't making contact. That's the big thing. Vinegar dust cleaner sprayed will leave it for a while until you can use hot water and wash it down. Yep. However, again, that's an option even when you leave the range, a little trick that can be done. A lot of times, the other thing is, although a lot of people don't like it because you're rolling the gun around, but you can put a light coat of whatever kind of penetrating oil you've got that as long as you're careful, remember penetrating oil neutralizes powder. But you can coat the metal surfaces to the front of the cylinder and around the barrel obviously and the objective behind doing that is to put something in place to help seal up the crystalline structure of the metal. Now you have to be careful you can't goop it on like you're greasing a ball joint but what you do is a light coat over in the surface area. What happens is that absorbs most of the the detritus that's going to be left over the excrement slash the carbonized material and it makes it easier to get rid of it. To what you can do a quick wipe down like you said then do the vinegar thing. It starts even as you use the weapon but remember guys that you've got a little bit of time but not much. You can't let any of these weapons sit. They're first of all too nice to let go by now and problem is replacements. Remember EMF revolvers used to be $59.95 a piece for years. You get a cheap brass frame, cap and ball, navy from EMF and they had steel was about $10 more and each gun progressively cost more depending on what it was. You won't find that now. If you're lucky, maybe the yard sale, but most everybody knows that weapons are worth more, so it's going to be a roll of the dice if you think you're going to find something. I would grab everything in the way of accoutrements I could find. But I guess it sounds like what George is looking for, George, are you trying to figure out what to buy? Yes, it's just like, but you know, because I was reading Texas law and I found a black powder gun, black powder is not even considered a firearm. Right, we, yeah, even in Michigan people were carrying them when everything else was restricted, they were carrying them for personal defense, being both in carry, for that reason. Yeah. One other thing is like listening to another host. It's futile resist, Mark, because Chase Manhattan is putting capital controls on people's bank accounts. Please let me laugh at you. All that does is validate what I said this morning and what we've been talking about, guys. Get your money out of the banks anyway. Wouldn't it make sense? And of course, what they're doing is restricting. I've seen all the dollar amounts. What would it come down to? You know what that tells me? Guys, did any of you read the 10 planks of the Communist Manifesto? Does anybody remember that thing about immigrants? We're not talking about, you know, about immigrants, you know, people leaving. If you try to escape communism, they locked up your money, they arrested you, and they block you from leaving. They weren't talking about immigration coming into the country. They're talking about you trying to escape the communists. And part of that is taking your money and leaving the battlefield. That's what this is about does anybody catch the drift of what that means? That's not a feudal resisting that just tells me you better be sharpening your bayonets guys That means you better be Wait make it a little spit or the loyal there you go and get that other side of the blade Because this is all part of the communist manifesto You know make sure that the they don't that the people who might have a clue what's going on. They don't escape Well, Mark, anything as I was sitting there reading my state representative, I asked him a question. He said, if you're going to put your money in the bank, put it in the state chartered bank or credit union. I wouldn't put it in any bank other than minimal maintenance amount that you're willing to lose. that you have to have so you can do business and that's it. I wouldn't do any more. I'd keep it in. In other words, if you've got to cash a check, you cash it. You keep it in there as long as it's necessary. And I'll say what I said this morning about that too. For the people trying to get their money out because Trust me, if you do even increments and you keep doing 2000, 2000, 2000, that becomes obvious. So whenever you do it, it's $129.95, $64.13, $25.29, and always have pennies. Always blog the system up. Always clog it up with more numbers. Seriously. I used to work in a bank and computer. Guys, I worked at the accounting end. Okay? Used to do that. Used to run computer. I'm so old with IBM 2000 reel to reel. We used to run from Ann Arbor, Michigan up to Lansing, Michigan because we bought out when American Bank and Trust went out of business the first time, which nobody seems to remember. They divvied up all of that bank that was from all over the country to all of the other banks, and each one bought a piece of it. And we ended up with Lansing, the branch of Lansing, Michigan's American Bank and Trust. One American Bank when it was carved up. Well, you know the Wells Fargo branch and the Bank of America branch and the Chase Manhattan branch Like six months ago those branches closed their doors in our town because everybody pulled their money out All right, and they need to keep it out. But real quick before any farther fluffy you still there Did we lose fluffy or is fluffy still with us? Oh, darn. Okay. There we go. Fluffy's back. Thank you, sir Real quick if it was a choice now George is trying to make a decision that stainless gun is real nice to maintain, isn't it? Oh yes, it's much easier to maintain. It's a whole lot more shiny though. Yeah, well that's a spray paint. I'll settle that in a few minutes if you had to go into conflict. See what I mean? Oh look, it's green now. Yeah, it's a little chunky, but it is the Remington and it's got, they've got adjustable sights. So if you measure your powder charge, they are quite accurate. Well, my... It's a .45... Go ahead. Let me point something out. We had a friend of ours, Sergeant Ellsworth. He was one of our armors. He was in a Civil War reenactment in black powder. And this one woman came up, and the story he always related was, this woman came up and she goes, oh, that's okay. Those are black powder guns. They're not harmed. They're harmless. And he looked at her and he goes, yeah, lady, that's right. That's why they used him in the Civil War. Yeah, lady, that's why they were using them in the Civil War, places like Gettysburg and, you know, let's see, Vicksburg and let's not talk about Shiloh and body chunks, right? Yeah, yeah, they're perfectly harmless, lady. He just, oh, he actually got none-plussed. He wouldn't say anything bad to anybody, but he kind of looks, you know, had that blank look on his face as he looks at us, he's like, okay, yeah, what am I gonna say to this woman? Alright. Cause he's holding a 58 caliber 3-bander, right? You know, it's like a 58 caliber ball, you know, ball going down range. Yeah, that's pretty harmless. Hold still, this is gonna hurt a lot, you know? So, the- Ow! Well anyway, my point is George Fluffy's got one of these that are black putter and stainless. A lot easier to maintain. Now it's true. Again, and we've talked about this. If you watch Ambush on our video, on our YouTube page, it's actually up on top. It's got about a million and .7 hits. Okay. If you watch that, pay attention. You'll see a couple things that I've pointed out before. One of them is stainless. If you watch, you'll see a stainless... I'll ruin it. There's a stainless steel Mini 14 in there. Look at the difference in how it shows up in that semi-twilight illumination as opposed to the blue steel and camouflaged barrels that are in that operation. The other thing that really stands out, you wouldn't think you would notice it because you have ground color that's savannah tan and brown in the sand, but from a lateral view the tan combat boots because we had the desert, not desert storm, those boots were actually from the Sinai Peninsula campaign from the old UN forces, the US airborne units when they were in the Sinai before desert storm. That's where those boots came from, those guys were wearing. I know because I'm the one who got them. And if you look, certain things, that's one of the reasons we do videos is you get a chance to observe. Some people make stupid statements because they don't have a clue what they're even talking about sometimes, but the thing is that if you watch, like the stainless issue, remember if you think stainless sticks out, try shiny chrome nickel. Okay? Hey, I'm over here, guys. I'm over here. Yeah, over here, look, if you didn't see me, even in the dark, that's one thing, even in the dark with Chrome. And my dad used to, he pointed this out years ago, he was a sheriff's deputy. He goes, like I said, you know, this one guy, he was being sneaky Pete, he thought he was going to sneak down this alleyway to go after some, you know, they thought somebody had broken into one of the stores. And he pulls out his revolver and he said every step of the way, no matter how he moved, that Chrome revolver was what you could see. You know in the city light that's what jumped out at you. You could me that's what made you pick him out You couldn't see him, but that shiny chrome revolver, you know did a great job of being a flare and so the consideration there is and stainless is really cool because Stainless is coarse even in its finished polished form. It's coarse So it doesn't reflect it actually has a matte finish number one. That's good But number two is break out the spray can and amazingly enough unlike nickel chrome where the paint will flake and chip off over a period of time the stainless will hold it longer because it has if you were looking at a microscope you can see that it has a coarse surface and that allows for the polymers in the paint to lock on to Now they're not going to stay there forever, but they are going to hold better So you can you know it'll chip so you chip off a few pieces here and there congratulations break out the pray this another spray can and go and it's back where it needs to be. Just don't paint the working contact points. In other words, here's a little trick. On the revolvers, you don't just cover up the ports front and rear where you have your cap and the front where you have your ball inlet. Use cotton balls for that guys, the easiest way to do it. And a little piece of cotton over top of the nipple. But you also want to remember to take a little piece of cotton, and this is tedious, and your indexing slots that are on the revolver cylinder that you lock in, you know, they lock the cylinder so that it's lined up. Make sure that you put a little piece of cotton in there and fill each one of them up. Then paint everything and then when you're done take a little toothpick and knock the cotton out of the little slots and your indexing points are not going to be gummed up. That's the most common. Go ahead, go ahead, please. I have done similar things but just a little bit of vegetable oil to wipe in the slots and then that just wipes away. Yep, that's another solution. In fact, one of the things to remember, the idea here is that we have certain working points. We don't want the paint where it's going to interfere with this, either when it's initially painted or remember guys, maybe it doesn't interfere with it initially, but what happens is when you're using it, you clean it, you use it, you clean it, eventually stuff breaks free or it becomes mushy because of the solvents and cleaners that you're using. So the working contact areas, you don't paint those. In fact, you can see where there are shiny points on weapons where they're used, if you've used it a lot. Well, it's obvious that those areas make contact and they're going to be wear points anyway. So you want to be cautious or you, again, want to be careful about how you apply anything to those surfaces. The biggest thing is more than anything is lubricate because if it's wearing it down, I'd put lubricant on something that's wearing. Ideally a light light grease or a good quality lubricating oil in a light coat and that will prevent some of the wear and tear. You've already lost the surfacing material, you've already lost the finish, it could be phosphate, it could be cold bluing, whatever. If you've lost that then obviously, again, now you're down to metal. Remember that's another spot where rust is going to start or oxidation if it's aluminum. So you want to keep that one way or another. You've either got to keep it covered with something like paint or finish, or we need to make sure we continue to lubricate to prevent any moisture from getting to the original bearing material. That's the big thing. So anyway, hopefully just pointing in a certain direction. George Fluffy, of course, kind of gave you a little testimonial. On the one hand, blued steel. Well, you've got to do maintenance. And stainless, well, you've still got to do maintenance, but it's a little more forgiving, right? More forgiving, but a little more expensive. Yeah, the wallet gets bit the other direction. We know that. Appreciate that, sir. We are at the top, guys. And we're going to leave for now, but we'll be back in about an hour with some ear candy coming up right here. Ed taking over. God bless the Republic. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. Hoorah! Thank you gentlemen, good questions and good responses too. For everybody out there, stay frosty. Vote with your wallet this week, please. Buy a case of ammo. Make a statement. Tell Washington, yeah, we have full confidence in all your BS. Buy another case of ammo. That's the only thing you can do. We'll be back in a little bit right here at Liberty Tree Radio. Meanwhile, beer candy and more on LTR. Bye-bye. This next announcement is serious news, and you won't hear it in the mainstream media. We are living in an age full of catastrophic events, and it's getting worse. But before we go on, remember this website. 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