His words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God-given right, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free? Bless you. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. This is the evening intelligence report. I'm Mark Hernke. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines in occupied territories west, southwest, east, and north. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you were listening to us on LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com. We're on AM and FM micro stations, CB base stations, and Ultra Net Technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska. We're on the Hallmark Network on the Eastern Seaboard. From the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida, from the bottom of Florida, across the arc of the Gulf of Mexico. Headed Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Oklahoma, big chunk of Nebraska, a whole bunch of Wyoming to include both 3rd and 5th, and our friends in the Civil War state of Colorado, only a trigger pull away from the next battle. waiting to the left coast where that brown streak in the underpants, you know, brown, signing off all of the gun confiscation and gun ban, ammo ban and mag ban laws, is proceeding to entrench the California Soviet socialist democracy deeper into the yellow and red of international communism. We turn back to the east, we leap across the place. or send all of your magazines to me and Mark. Yeah, send them this way. Get them out of the country, way out of the state, way it's looking. In fact, there's a lot of friends nearby that'll need them. Obviously, parts of even California don't plan on sticking around with California anymore. Back to the east over the plains and lining in the Smokies where the restaurant crew's grabbing teams, okay teams, bring us the Golden Spike. Don, it's been clear. It's medium temperature, probably gonna be a little cool tonight, guys. What's it like in your neck of the woods and what is the date today, sir? Well, it's the last day that will show us a single date this October year, 2013, you know, ninth day of October, year of our Lord, 2013. And you're right, it's going to get a little chilly tonight in a certain place, a blanket or a cover. A little girl walked away from one of the rooms in the house here, just four or five miles to my west yesterday. And father in the next room, and he said he'd turned away for a minute and came back and she was gone. Sheriff came in and everybody else came in and they searched for a mile and the radius everywhere and couldn't find her but they found her today about 1 30 just she stepped out of the woods in front of one of the ATVs driving around on one of the backwoods two treks that was People looking for so she made it through last night all by herself and all she had on was a t-shirt you guys There's a little gift from God and a slight miracle But again, I did mention it's the 9th day of October, right? So that does draw up a particular action. And it's going to, the mechanical thing, and it's going to go something like this because I want to treat the extractor as best as I can. We're going to put one completely loaded magazine in the magazine well, some call them clips. But then I'm going to touch that slide release and wow, that's one in the chamber now. Touch that mag release and that magazine falls into my hand and I'm going to take this chick with over here and I'm going to push down and I'm going to push back and top that magazine off and I'm going to put that magazine back in the magazine well. So we can tell everybody it is Weapons Wednesday. The perimeter is secure and there is plenty more where that came from. And that means we can offer equal opportunity course at force the 1911 and it's 45 counterparts being for all practical purposes one of the significant players on the up and coming battlefield so ensure that you understand how your weapon works how to disassemble it do basic maintenance spare parts need to be in hand and lots and lots and lots of magazines. Remember guys, at the very least if you pick up a weapon, the goal should be to try and acquire 6 mags for the weapon as quickly as you can. One or two automatics out there that are reasonably priced, there aren't any spare mags for, so I can understand that, but you get two mags with the gun. You may search around and find a place where there are a few, you know, you might find a clutch of, you know, mags in a certain location we've missed. But most of what you're going to run into, Glocks, 1911s, SIGs, Rugers, Smith & Wesson, mags are available. Six should be your goal. In addition, obviously a reasonable amount of ammunition right from the get-go to load everything up and have enough to reload several times. Those mags you picked up. And then just keep adding to the inventory. You're not going to lose a penny and you're going to need every round you've got. Exactly. It's not hard to hide six magazines upon one's person or about one's self. Wasn't that a neat little couplet of words there? talking about where you can put magazines. If it's not summertime and you don't just wear a t-shirt, by the time you know, hey it's fall, that means you're going to have a light over codon. That means, well, six magazines are so easy to hide that there's no excuse for almost not having, you know, at least four more and calling it ten and even ten. And then you can have like five on this side and five on that side. and they hide so well and well if you got 10 multiply out the capacity of the magazine. I'll tell you a neat little thing that I've seen down that would work really well for a lot of people listening is a compressed holster not the big pancake that you're seeing that they've got one of these leg hangers but not used as a leg hanger. Think of that little plate for MOLLE gear If you put a shoulder strap or you extend the straps that are on it, put another keeper, a male female on to give it length. You're looking at a nice little rig to have say your pistol and the 5, 6 or 8 mags hooked up with pistol mag pouches on the molly plate. And if you need it, you just grab the thing, throw it over your shoulder, your mags are there, your weapon is ready to go. and you cross strap it over your chest and then take that lower leg strap and wrap it around the upper part of the thigh. Now what this creates is a light combat load, but for security operations, garrison personnel, automotive drivers, etc. this would be a nice little package that could be put together to give you a lot of firepower, but be able to do it in such a way that if you have to drop it or secure it, it's all in one package that is easily put in place, but also grabbed with one strap and you run with it. That's kind of a solution. I've been looking at this because pistol mag pouches, there's a bunch of cheapies that are out there that are molly. They're not cheapy as far as how they're made. They're actually, I think, kind of over engineered. But oh well, they're better too much than not enough. The advantages for all you guys with stacked mags especially They'll fit the Beretta Monolani II, the Smith 59, any of the new Smith staggered mags, the Glocks, etc. And you can put three of these pouches on that molly plate and then take the third station, the third quadrant, forgive me, the fourth quadrant, or I'm measuring it the way I look normally at these things, the upper, left or right depending on whether you're left or right handed. The upper quadrant, left or right, you save for the holster. and what you have with the allowing for a little overhang, you don't want to leave the plate, you allow for just a little overhang out and away from the plate itself. Reverse the idea that you know, where they've got the holster centered on the molly plate and it takes up a whole lot of space. I think it actually kills a lot of carry space is what it does. But if you think of it as a shoulder carried system, It's a neat little package, doesn't take much to get online, and you've got a solution to a problem there. How can I palletize that pistol kit? Because I may want to give it to somebody else, or say I want to set up a 510 program with a pistol kit. That's a solution. That's one of the ways you can set it up. Holsters are all over the place. They've got lefties, angled, straight holsters. They're all molly types. You can get them in every stinking camouflage you can imagine. They've got all the proper keepers and straps and everything already built. So it's not like you have to come up with a, you know, figure out how to make it fit. You don't have to worry about that. The big thing is how do you station it so that it becomes a package? Now it's not going to be for rifle. This is a pistol. This is a light like defense system But it is a solution that we need to look at another thing here again ammunition ammunition and ammunition already You know since this morning. I went to several sites. You know for a few minutes This afternoon and what I mentioned in the morning I want to check and it's already gone I became really I can't I didn't have time to may take an hour and go through a whole bunch of stuff to see who's got what where so Don't be surprised especially as things escalate now the vacuum cleaner is on its second wave and 308 is one of those things down that Everybody that was looking for 308 they're pulling it and they're pulling it big time. So those are battle rifles. That's cool. That man, those are going to our people. Those are, again, MBR, main battle rifle systems. Battlefield superiority weapons. We're not in equity. That's superiority. Okay, so just consider that. Remember, there's a lot of other heavy stuff out there that we've got that's in motion. Knob Creek machine gun shooters this weekend, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. It's going to be very very very very busy. So I highly recommend if you're going to get there make sure you bring a cart or you're prepared with walking shoes. Could rain, could be sunny. Either way I bring water and I make sure I bring my poncho. Now that works and or your ring gear at least but a poncho is a real good idea because we got anything like a shoulder bag Put the shoulder bag under the poncho and that way it's protected It's not out in the weather especially if you're you know filling it with goodies as you shop around Also, if you've got people who have not seen these types of weapon systems online This is a chance for people to look at and if they really want to shoot something during the day you can pay by the ammunition, get up there on the line and they have free hours of shooting. You don't just randomly go up there, what you do is you actually rent one of the weapons and you can find out what it does. So you get a chance to experience it first hand if you want to. You got the money to do that? Congratulations. Just don't be surprised at how quick Full Auto empties a magazine. It's what we've warned you about many many many many many times. It's a lot of fun but the roller coaster ride is real quick. Especially if you're not paying attention. Okay? So, another thing I promised to do and I want to benchmark this, a couple of different sites I haven't mentioned in a little while. cursedconverter.com www.kirstkonvert E-R, cursedconverter.com. www.cursedconverter.com. What do they do? Well, they specialize in, wa-ya-ya, wa-ya-wa. That's right, cowboy conversions for the pistolman who is, of course, working at being a cowboy shooter. If you have the Opistola and you are looking at perhaps wanting to modify your old black powder piece or a particular weapon, these conversion systems are duplicates of the kinds that were done many, many years ago back when the bounty killers were after the bad guys. And so, if you go to www.cursedconverter.com, you will recognize and in fact even point out where you've seen some of these systems in movies. But all they're really doing is showing you systems that were developed after the Civil War or even at the very end of the Civil War to increase firepower. By of course turning being able to turn a weapon around with regard to reload time even black powder cap and ball guns many custom You know many people had custom cylinders built so that they could have more cylinders on hand kapak kapak kapak kapak kapak and then dump the cylinder Re-introduce the new cylinder drop the pin back in place and you got another six shots a lot quicker than well try to reload a cap and ball gun in the middle of a firefight So that was one solution, but these are cartridge gun solutions and For those out there who might have an interest maybe you can get hold of a black powder piece. That's an aftermarket There are a number of different solutions. They're explained here on the site www.cursedconverter.com www.cursedconverter.com cursedconverter.com also www.datumgear.com for those you are on the east coast datum gear of course has the polymer and aluminum receivers DATUMGEAR 80% these do not require paperwork they are Liberty Arms and you want to build one there's another solution for you DATUMGEAR www.datamgear.com I highly recommend you get a motion on that, of course, who knows. And don't think, well, you know, we could be at war two days from now. We could be, you know, something could cook off on the 13th with Washington. Yeah, it could, but in the meantime, let's keep, stay in motion and stay focused on mission. If we fight, we fight with what we got. That is the one thing that Rumsfield actually was correct and honest about. You go to war, you know, with what you got. That's true. All this yap, you know, later on by pantyways, so why didn't we have this or why don't we have that? Well, actually Rumsfeld mentioned that the day before 9-11 when he explained that the Jewish mobsters had stolen two trillion dollars from the Department of Defense. That's why we didn't have it and Rumsfeld knew it. Okay? So the point is that for the two trillion dollars stolen by the Jewish mafia by the Israeli filth by the the yahudi trash All of a sudden as soon as rum fill mention it we have a mysterious attack out of the blue nobody expected but lots of confusion During the exercise to prepare for the very kind of attack that they said we didn't have any clue is gonna happen Wait a minute So anyway for everybody out there you go to war with what you got you fight with what you got Now just make sure you understand what each of your weapon systems does how your equipment works Review and look at what you do have to fill in the blanks and have it ready and on standby Anybody comes out to do any stupid? Well, we're gonna do a roundup. Babababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababababab I was only following orders man. I was only following orders. I didn't mean to shoot your dog and try to kill your family in your house man. I was only following orders. Hold this... Boom! You see how that works? Yeah, we... Yeah, thank you very much. Thank you very much. As Elvis said, thank you very much. And now the... Yeah, the scum are going to leave the building. Thank you very much. Goodbye. So again, what do you have and what is going to fit the niche so to speak? Well, I will remind you that your nagats and a lot of your other high-part rifles will go through more than the average bear. So remember how to apply them to start looking at your combat loads and knowing where you put your ammo, guys. Some of you have armor, for instance, 7.62x54R. You don't see very much of it, but we bought a bunch of it back in the day. Armor piercing incendiary tracer. See, the Russians had this philosophy, why make a whole bunch of different rounds when we can make one round that does everything? And so the Russian armor piercing incendiary tracer round literally does all of the above. The tracer round is a high cap, high energy filament and when the AP round does itself and it does its job and it slaps anything, gas tanks, fuel tanks or whatever, it has a tendency to bulge or spread, splay the projectiles, intentionally engineered that way, kind of like the AK-74 round is designed to cavitate and collapse at the front because they left a certain amount of air space in the nose of the 545 projectile. It's a ball round going down range, but when it hits something and a ball round as it penetrates something, but then if it, as it does penetrate or as it slaps energy against that surface, it distorts it and creates all kinds of cavitation and yaw and the bullet does really nasty, nasty things. Well, the same kind of philosophy works with the armor piercing incendiary tracer in that upon slapping a particular target, the filament burns at a much higher and hotter rate. And this in and of itself is enough to work on any accelerant, diesel, gasoline, whatever, to activate it. And again, by the nature of the AP round, it gets to where it needs to be through the chewy stuff. The Russians made a whole lot of this stuff and mostly used of course for aircraft, air to air, but obviously used by the squad guns. The ammunition came out in the 70s and 80s into the general market in a number of different ways, not the least of which are some soldiers bringing it back from Vietnam. A lot of the stuff was carried back, especially since they knew it was a unique round. Everybody thought, well this will be kind of cool. Armor piercing and sendary tracer Yeah, so a lot of guys brought back thousands of rounds or shipped them home directly to their porch. Thousands and thousands of rounds. In addition to that, some of this stuff came in in the early days of the CHI-COM first wave invasion of weapon systems. And a armor piercing incendiary tracer was sold both by the Chinese, then by the Russians, and in its surplus stock, although some of it's virtually new when it was being sold back in the 80s. and also from Bulgaria. Now while the variations exist, the basic premise is the same. So you're going to see a mix of head stamps, but the performance levels are pretty much identical. The question has always been that, you know, well who made the bullets? Probably the Russians made them for everybody. At least for all the Eastern Bloc Iron Curtain during, you know, the Cold War. So most all of them will perform in the same way. Penetration is pretty much consistent. Burn potential is consistent. These are very corrosive rounds. I hope everybody understands that. The Russians didn't concern themselves with being politically correct or polite to the operator by making something a little less corrosive or with less of an oxidant residue. Oh no, no, no. They kept the old formula because it burns no matter what, no matter how crude or poor the factory operator is, guys. Something to think about there. So remember, you must clean your weapon. That is a must. Remember, when you're using what is a bore tracer, it starts burning somewhere down the tube from the muzzle, out, in most cases. And because of that, you're going to have some copper oxidant that is going to be left in the tube. Remember that that filament is at the back of the bullet. Okay, so it's kind of working like a little rocket for all practical purposes, you know, right on down downrange. That's why you can see it. It burns so nice. Well, the thing is that when it goes down the tube, iron oxide, copper oxide, in some cases, oh, is it Well, forgive me, nickel cyanide, I think is the other one. Yeah, I know everybody here cyanide, they go, we're gonna die! Well, it's not that much cyanide, but actually they use a particular number of metals, guys, to create colors with the trace. So that's why what you said before you see all those pretty yellow tracers going down range Well, it took a certain chemical to get the yellow you see the red iron oxide you see the green copper oxide Okay, see how that works. So one going down one way has got something, you know behind it The other one's got something else behind it. Oh and there's purple and don't ask me how they made purple down. I don't know Okay Whatever the chemical process is we'll find out down the road. I haven't done any research on that the Japanese made purple pink yellow They there were so many tracers that they made because they were their logic was that way their gunners could track the rounds like with their naval guns that You're really not sure what you're gonna get with Japanese surplus after World War two a lot of the people were still using it right through to the 70s and And that's why the last batch of Nagat rifles, or forgive me, Arasaka rifles, came in with the Lotus, you know, the Imperial symbols all scrubbed, but very clean. Well, all those rifles were still in somebody's Strategic Reserve Inventory and finally got sold. That's what happened. Anyway, armor-piercing incendiary tracer, again, know where it is, know how to apply your special rounds, don't just dump them on infantry, guys. Save them for those specialized pieces of equipment you want to put special markers on or you might want to make sure they toast a little more. Same is true with your .50 caliber guns. If you have any of the specialized rounds, don't just waste them on the, you know, Knuckle Dragon Black Uniform Moose. Focus on things that need to be penetrated. And this includes even soft skin vehicles. Remember, a soft skin with a 50 with a armor-piercing incendiary round from front to rear? Well, it'll punch pretty much through the front to the rear of the vehicle, and if there's a fuel tank involved towards the end, the incendiary tracer round will do what it's supposed to do, or the incendiary AP round will do what it's supposed to do. If you've ever seen that at a distance, it's fascinating. It ain't Hollywood. Very different. Anyway, Don, we're headed towards the bottom here. We're not too far off, but we are almost at the bottom. Your number for night vision before we go any farther, sir, please. Well, that number is 231-796-8458. That is green screens, or only being, yes, 231. It's 5'8". One of the things that actually people are asking about thermite, let's remind everybody in the chat room, thermite is considered to be a non-weapon because it's actually a welding material. Does everybody understand where its original applications were? Thermite is still used today for rail repair. They actually make kits up though they've become more sophisticated than they were in the past. Basically it's a slab clay mold that you wrap around the track. Let's say you have a track that's got a chip in it. Well rather than take a big old arc welder out there guys, they actually have a little kit where you mix up the amount you actually pull from your reservoir on a certain amount of thermite compound. You use iron oxide chip or there's a number of different systems including powdered iron. calculate what the actual chip size is. You pull out only the volume necessary. You put the clay dam around the point where you're going to be doing the repair. And then you activate the thermite. And what it does is it actually bonds and fuses the new metal to the point where the damage was. You then take both a coarse and then a finished rasp, and you dress the repair. You clean the repair up. Now, of course, thermite is very handy because it does other wonderful things. It burns through stuff and welds it together after it's done. So if you have an engine you don't like or a barrel in a tank you want to make very, very, shall we say, uncomfortable, well, Mr. Thermite, your friend. Now, two techniques. One is inside, the other one is on. Remember, if you're looking at artillery, one of the best places you can place the thermite is right on top of a recoil tube, but just over top of the main barrel, the main tube. Why? Well, you do a double whammy. It eats through and welds the recoil mechanism in one point or another, and then burns through and taps the tube, and that's all she wrote. You don't even have to do significant damage. The tube's done. Any compromising of the gun tube, she's finished. Remember that the down's 50 caliber with an AP round or with a depleted uranium round and there's a lot of 50 caliber depleted uranium floating around out there guys. You hit a main artillery tube or a tank tube with that it's finished. But it's only a chip or a chink or a yeah it's finished. Guys yeah they don't want you to think you can't shoot my gun oh yeah I can. Why not? It's like, but it's a big toy. You shot my big toy. Yeah, I didn't need to get through the armor. All I need to do is do damage to the things that stick out of the turret or the stuff they see with. Okay? Remember guys, you don't get necessarily a big, exciting, dynamic kaboom unless somebody on board doesn't know you've done damage to the tube and pulls the trigger. Yeah, and then it kind of finishes what you started. You get my drift. Really embarrassing. Oh wow, look at that. Gun tubes really frag now. Back pressure went into the turret. There's smoke coming out of the hatches. I wonder what happened there. Yeah. Guy calling out, he makes it about a third of the way out and slips back in. Yeah. Well my favorite is the guy with the chunk of steel stuck in his tanker helmet. If you ever, again I'll point that out. It was an American tank, but I don't... The kid who ever did it was probably some guy, Lenny Geddy, he took a chance on a head-on shot on an Abrams. If anybody doesn't remember this, it was Desert Dust Part 2. It was a classic, looked like an American overpass, Expressway overpass. The tank's down below. The kid was in the second, on the far lane away from the tank. Thing comes into just the right position, he fires, it's a head-on shot, and it was a one-shot kill. And you see the tank stops, you see it just start to cook. The commander comes out of the tank, out of that Abrams, and he has a chunk of metal stuck in the top of his helmet, which is also stuck in his head. And you see him come out, stagger around the back, flop over the rear turret, flop to the back of the vehicle and flop up against it. And that's all she wrote. The loader or the gunner pop out the other hatch. There's smoke belching from everywhere. He rolls over the back end. His hands on fire and his arms on fire. He jumps down the back, you know, pats out whatever's going on and they, you know, him and another person helped to pull the commander back away from the Abrams that was knocked out. Now I don't care who the hell he was, but anybody would make it a shot like that. At that moment they're on top of the world. You're staring at death warmed over with an Abrams coming straight at you and you knock it out with an RPG I don't care what model it was but whatever he knocked it out with it was a clean one-shot kill and Everybody piling out of it. Well, they didn't look too good So even though they again, it's a testament to the design that the crew was able to get out Well, I didn't see the driver You see Just something to think about there kids. Well, it's feudal resist you'll be observed well that particular kid with that RPG seven on his shoulder that day Showed you otherwise He didn't know any better It's it's feudal a resemble. Oh, I guess you can knock out a 70 ton Abrams tank head on can't you somebody just did I don't know if he went down the tube he could have been you know, he got the guts and Going down the main tube would be well, that'd be a last desperate me. Maybe I get him Maybe he gets me who knows can't be sure whatever it was It was a far for the hit was away from the camera, but everything else was caught on film So anyway, just a point guys You never know what it's gonna be starting But you better be ready for it ready to fight and have the tools in the toolbox squared away Whatever you do have it's what you're going into the fight with now you want more if you don't have it in hand or you don't get it Whatever you order in time. Well, you're gonna be taking off the corpse of your enemy That means you'll probably be fighting with somebody else, so you better put your tennis sneakers on, we'll get to the corpse before the other guy does. Okay, be it night vision, body armor, whatever. Okay, maybe a new rifle. Maybe you want another rifle or a trophy. You never know. We're at the bottom of the hour, a little past, we take the bottom of the hour break, we got Donna Mark here, Intel Report. We'll be back. 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Visit hempusa.org or call 908-691-2608 today. before he shoots me before god i swear this creed my right You may ride a good lead speed, you may know a stern a master You forward much with speed, but you'll learn the back much faster When you meet our mountain boys And their leader George Scott Glad you make what little noise and always hit the mark Hold the rifle, hold the rifle In our hands we'll prove no frightful Maggie no graves at home, I could cross the brine of water And giddy he must come like, well it's to the slaughter But if we the job must do, then the sooner it is begun If Lyndon's figure holds the butt through, the quicker it will be done Hold the rifle, hold the rifle In our hands we'll prove no to rifle Hold the rifle, hold the rifle In our hands we'll prove no to rifle We are back. We've got Donna Mark here. And everybody out there is in Tell Report. Weapons Wednesday. Don, you have night vision technology on hand. For the solution for most people, the first gen rifle system is available. What can we do with it? What can it be mounted on? And how can we get hold of it from you, sir? Uh oh. Did we lose Don? Well, we may have Don step away for just a minute. Probably will assume that. That'll be safe. And for everybody out there listening, it is the Intel Report. It is Weapons Wednesday, apexgunparts.com. I will point out again, we had this discussion last night in the chat room. I don't think everybody's understanding. I'm not telling you you need to buy it. But if you're looking at building a unique, moisten nagot, again, Archangel Stocks has put together a new stock for the nagot. It's the same model they actually build for other weapons. very well put together. They actually have a great little video. Go to www.apexgunparts.com. On the front page they have, halfway down, middle of the page, they have a picture of the stock itself and listed accordingly. Click that and go to the image. When you get to the explanation of the stock and what's available, there is also an attachment to a video there. It answers a lot of questions, explains the versatility of the stock itself. One of the neat things is this actually switches the Nagat over to a detachable magazine system. It's built into the stock. It's really cool. Five-round standard, so it's the same, although it's an inline mag. A 10-round mag is also available for the Nagat. It is, of course, designed for the existing bolt, the existing system with no changes. All you do is Take your existing Nagat, carbine or rifle, Russian or any Eastern block or even the Chinese model and they explain there's a little requirement they built into the stock to accommodate the Chinese model. So it will handle any of them you want to put in there. My personal attitude, if I'm spending that kind of money on that, I would not put a carbine in that stock. I'd put a full-length Model 91, preferably the heaviest, older barrel that's in decent shape, or if it was re-barreled, fine. and that will be dropped in there. But this is designed to accommodate the straight bolt action, so it's not a problem. Don't have to change out the bolt or anything. But it's fully adjustable for the shoulder weld, as far as the length of the stock, the height of the comb. It has a C-type grip. It doesn't have a pistol grip like an AK. It has a C-type grip like a Model 19-03A3. and that it's a natural pitch to the stock itself behind the action. So it still pretty well keeps everything, your hand, in the same basic station and position it would with the original stock. Now, it's $200 for the stock set, so yeah, you could buy about two negots, a little less right now because of the price, but a little less, but negot, a whole bunch of ammunition. And a couple of other goodies if you wanted to. Personally, if you're looking at $200 and you're thinking that way, I'd go a rifle and a whole lot of ammo right now. And I'd buy all the ammo I'd get my hands on. Seriously, for the NEGA. Guys, some companies have sold out of the 7.62x54R and it's gone. It's just they're not replacing it. They can't get any more or it's not coming in fast enough. I don't know which it is. It doesn't make any difference. If it's gone and they don't have it, you're not getting it from them. Okay, I'd rather our people get it first. Anyway, Don might be there again. Yes, he is. Very good. Don, you have night vision technology again. First Gen piece, what can we put it on and how long would it take to get hold of it and what would the cost be? Go ahead, please. Well, to get a hold of it, you'd probably want to call me because I'll do a better deal than the guy with the 800 number. My number is 231-796-84. 5 8 yeah, I can't do it. It would be just to uh I think somebody work on that. I think somebody's on the road That's interesting. Are we okay? Oh? Okay, I think we got something in the background there, so Again, Don has the technology on hand first gen which can be mounted on pretty much any rifle that we have out there that you probably have an inventory and It's supposed to ride on a .308 comfortably and for anybody who's looking for a weapons platform night vision device that is going to consistently serve, I would recommend that this would probably be a good choice on your Dragon Ops, your Vepr rifles. Remember you can put one complete system together on a side mount slide fixture, take it off, put a daylight scope on, switch back and forth as needed. Once it's sighted in, it goes into the little pelican case that you carry with your rifle and you switch out from the day to the night accordingly. But that VEPR with the 20 inch, 22 inch, or any of the 7.62x54R, the .308, those are kick butt rifles that will perform. Doesn't mean the rest of yours won't, but It's one of the easiest. The AKs right now, along with the ARs with the flat top, are two of the easiest to bring online with replacement scope patterns. In other words, going from one system daytime to one system nighttime back and forth. One of the reasons you're going to find a lot of first and second generation stuff that is out there that some people have in the service, the idea is to move it towards weapon systems that make it convenient and efficient. with regard to deployment. That's what we're looking at. I think we have Don back with us. Yes, we do. And the cat can step on a controller and things get out of control for just a minute. That's okay. It was a cat copter, right? Right out the door. Well, yeah, that'll work. Anyway, go ahead. And as you point out, with the right setup, hey, it's just thumb screw on and thumb screw off. And how are you going to protect the other device in its downtime? It's another consideration. And it's not too hard to do as long as, well, you protect yourself. Then the little accoutrements around you, generally you can get them through too, can't you? So that's wishful and hopeful. The turnaround time, you ask that question mark, by the time, again, I can't take a By the time the check gets here, it's about two weeks before the device is going to be in your mailbox. The white truck will bring it out. If you're a first generation viewer, you're going to have to have somebody sign for it now. But that's a good thing because to a certain extent that means they won't leave your gun site in your door. That means they want someone there. You know what I mean? Instead of putting it in your... Well, we brought it there. We don't know if it ever truly, but we did drop it off there. It makes me think of the UPS guy that dropped off the computer. Remember a couple of years ago, Mark, the guy who dropped off the computer around Christmas time, he just walked right up to that gate and just tossed somebody's computer in the box right over the gate and turned around and got in his truck and drove away. Well, that would be one of those. We wonder if it ever got their situations. But how did this get so broken? It just jumps in my mind. Well, fortunately the gateways are pretty rugged to begin with, especially the older ones guys in the 90s. But what I did is I started building plywood boxes inside the cardboard box. Using 2x2s for the corners, I then went with plywood, not chipboard, plywood. There were kick marks in those boxes, but maybe only one or two as opposed to a lot of them because the first time somebody kicked the box they found out the toes bent. It wasn't so funny anymore. Ha ha ha. Of course I made it very deceptive because these were cow boxes. We were fortunate and got all the boxes from the student move-in and they were all the Holstein boxes for Gateway. Really big. Plenty of room for the actual computer and lo and behold I made sure we made the brand new plywood inner walls top and bottom and all sides. So I had a box inside. A little heavier. But you know what was really cool is, you know, styrofoam packed inside, the computers bounced around nicely without being damaged, everything was secure, and even with the boot marks, the computer, well, she didn't have none in her. Now, from that point forward, that was just a policy. And I'm sure that they had different people who thought they were going to be cute and do that, only to find out that one's so cute after all. Ha, ha, ha. Hopefully there were some fools running around with some busted toes and they deserved it. Just like what's going to happen recently when they end up with other parts busted up because they deserve it. So we need to be ready for that. Don, real quick. Now this is something where we kind of mentioned an earlier tool, but tracer and night vision technology now again guys Tracer is going to show up a little different you've seen some of the CNN video footage or a different news media footage or you've gone to YouTube you can watch a lot of stuff One of the questions that came up is it kind of harmful to the night vision? Because obviously it is a hot burn going downrange It suddenly transients when we ask for a second or two, so is it really going to be harmful to the night vision device? Yes or no? If you're going to sit in one place and burn out a couple of Belvedere's linked together, and every fifth one is a tracer, and you're going to do that in about 30 seconds, maybe 40 seconds, you know, send like 300 rounds down in about 30 or 40 seconds, you might end up with a little line in a first and some second generation tubes that ends up in your target impact area or where it appears to be in the tube. This brings up another good point because we've talked about zeroing and we won't get too far away from this thought line, but we've talked about zeroing your gun sight, be it first or second. Now the second generation device that is most popular from my biggest source has almost a window. Oh, sunglasses, you know, instead of a... Now a pinhole is only going to work so well as far as trying to zero in the daylight because every time you take the cover off and put it back on, the pinhole is never exactly in the same place. And it is depending on that dinky little bit of light right there in the center. and again right there in the center if it's never exactly in the same place you're never you're not going to get a zero you're going to get close enough that well you'll be able to shoot to target after dark and correct to your zero but with the bigger device the bigger cover that again is like a lens cap gee whiz like a sunglasses doesn't matter that the cap goes back on at 1 1,000th or 3 1,000th off from the last time and never truly finding the center again because it offers so much away from center that it starts to use the curve of the lens again so it invokes center by the lens mark. So you can find that zero shooting in the daytime. Now another reason why you'd want to shoot tracer is to be able to zero the gun quickly. Now I would advise you to if you're going to do it this way or apart of the hundred yards and that's 30 feet away from your target. If it's 30 feet above you might not know where that bullets going. Boresight the gun, bag it in, bring the device as close to you know under the same bit of restraint of aim in the device to the point of impact by your bore sight and then maybe send one down range. Now you don't have to do that at a hundred yards either we've addressed this you know 25 yards make sure your azimuth is proper you know So then all you have to do is adjust your elevation and you bring that real close and you step out to 100 yards and then you've got your zero. And if you're shooting a 50 cal you might not even want to call that your base zero. You might want to step back to 200 or even 300 yards and call that your base zero. And start adjusting up for range from there. You can do that with a tracer. Now the other question that came to me over the phone, and I'm glad you brought, you sent me in this thought line in this direction, Mark. Thank you very much. Because I wanted to bring this to the hour, but absent-minded Don sometimes. This was a good question that came to me from someone who bought a device and wanted to know about zeroing it with a laser from the muzzle. Now some of these devices, you guys, you have a Collette that will center it really close to center in the bore and that it will adjust and some of them are different. You'll have to be around 30 and if you want to go up to 50 you'll have to buy a different Collette. You just tighten that into the bore and now you're talking about metal on metal. This is something you want to do very gingerly. When you have to do it with caution like that, you want to have to suspect a little bit repeatability, let alone, you know, but you're going to get pretty close. Now, there are other devices, this person was talking about, and we're talking about line out, was talking about using a laser that just chambered into the, it was in the bullet, but it was in, you know, a laser, not a real projectile bullet, and you just, it would run into the chamber, shoot down the barrel. But you guys, I would advise even then to bag the gun down, And you know that straight line that is out of the barrel and that trajectory, the bullet starts to fall as soon as it leaves the barrel. So with a straight line that is at 100 yards, you're going to have to adjust a little bit for elevation. But this will give you a pretty good for azimuth as far as, you know, up and down, left to right. That will give you a pretty good now... The thing about burning that laser goes back over to it, is it going to be a problem with the tube? You keep that laser burning in that one spot over and over for a good long time and you will burn a line into the tube. I ran the basic instruction like this. If you have it in the chamber and you can't turn it off, cover the muzzle with a dark rag. The gun. Take the rag off and you're going to bag the gun to where the point of aim you know, via the laser is directly in the center of the target, right? Then you're going to cover the muzzle up so your night vision device isn't looking at the laser while you adjust it to the best of your ability to center the target. Now you uncover the laser again and you look at where the laser is on the target. So just to make certain that the gun hasn't moved and you look at where your point of aim is and if they don't coincide you kind of have someone hold a pencil there on the target. No, your gun isn't loaded, right? It has that laser in the chamber. Or put a little pencil mark on the target and then you adjust your point of aim to that aforementioned mark. And then you uncover the muzzle again. Now you've taken this as three steps to get real. You should be really close to, you know, point of aim via the laser versus point of impact, you know, laser and sight, not necessarily in that order. But that should get you close enough that, well, you're confident enough to send some lead downrange and then just make the dinky correction. The same can be done with tracer. Some tracer is going to light up right from the muzzle. Some tracer doesn't even light up until it's 100, 150, 200 yards downrange, you guys. That's another point to be made. So if you're shooting at 100 yards and the tracer doesn't light up until it's about 200 yards down, The numbers don't add up, do they? All you're going to do is set your target on fire. If you want to shoot into a tree stump or something, you're going to set that on fire. Again, ground. We're talking about proper general ranges. They aren't going to let you shoot at night. They're getting to be really stingy with that mark. This is best done on fire. This is best not done even in Michigan here, in a lot of places. for a duration because somebody tends to call the DNR and they send out the damn near, I mean the darn near Russians and then you don't like your shooting at night and if they get really prissy about it they're going to want to take your gun. Enough said about that. Can't neither say more. One of the things that I would remind everybody again and find pieces of real estate especially if you have farmers their allies pieces of real estate where you control the district is a good choice a lot of our independent ranges are built like that Frank Stasa came with original the original camp Stasa not new camp Stasa new camp Stasa is completely surrounded by allied land We literally have hundreds of acres in all directions and it's ours, probably constituting close to a thousand acres overall. So impact areas, all of those considerations, it's ours, period. Night fire, nobody locally is going to piss and moan about it. So that's one of the things to try and do. Make friendlies of everybody. Know who your enemies are too if they're any and that's where you again, be cautious. But for sighting in at night, Let's not forget that from inside a structure using tires to make up your silencer system guys You can fire at night into the darkness from a structure quite comfortably you're able to zero that weapon that night sight accordingly and using the tires to shoot through the biggest tires best tire for this project and then also tires laterally perpendicular laid side by side by side you create literally a massive silencer baffle a series of them and you can fire quite a real eliminate the majority of the sound that's going to be heard as any kind of discharge. In fact a lot of your tractors and equipment on the farm will make more noise. So that's another consideration. Tires are cheaper free because most these tire stores they have to pay to get them called away if you'll take them for free that saves them a lot of trouble. Get them adrift. So pick a size tire you like grab all of them you can and keep grabbing more bolt them together and you got yourself a shooting silencer to work out of a building with and This will work with all your high-powered rifles But also your pistols or anything else you want to sight in at night if you want to experiment to see what your weapons can do The other thing again Don One set to zero and using a slide mount system We're pretty well gonna see it consistently resettle once we put it back on the weapon correct Yep, that's another point to be brought up and something to aim for no pun intended. Well, we're headed towards the top here now. One more time again. You're going to be available in a few minutes. Your number for night vision. It is 231-796-8458. 231-796-84. And again, Don will be available shortly. Don, interesting story that was brought up by the guys in the chat room. Woman had been missing for two weeks in a San Francisco hospital. They found her in a stairwell next to a fire door. She had been there for a while. Now guys, I might well remind you, when I worked at the U of M, I used to take the kids that worked for me and have them do a stairwell check first thing, especially on the weekends. because you'd have students drunk out in vomiting, sitting in their own vomit, maybe sometimes not too careful. So you didn't find bodies on Monday. You have the crew do a quick check to make sure everything's clear and clean, and you have to do every stairwell walk top to bottom. Security used to do the same thing. After they had a couple of kids found dead or almost dead, well, then they started doing it again on a regular basis. But for quite a period of time there, well, they figured they could cut corners and people wouldn't have to W-O-R-K. Obviously, they claimed they searched this hospital, Don, and didn't find her. Well, don't worry. She was there waiting... She was there waiting two weeks. She was there for two weeks waiting for him. She was missing, you know, she'd been in the hospital for two days and then disappeared. And to me it's like, you know, considering how... She wasn't complaining when they found her. Nah, and they don't know how long she'd been there before she actually expired or whatever. The county coroner is working on, you know, the formula right now. Wow. So we'll see what happens. Again, little warning there about, well, we've checked everything. Why don't you trust us? And the first thing I'd say is, no. How does that work for you? No. We'll look around a little bit too. How's that sound? And I think that'd be a real good idea. I had family and friends with posters out trying to find her out in the community and she hadn't gone very far. She just went down the hall, down a stairway, by a door, and not like in a basement, she was by a door to an outside area that was glassed, a glass door, to a landing. And had been sitting there, laying there, propped up against the door, laying on the floor. I don't know how she was found. But anyway, just a little reminder there, guys. Don't assume they're going to take care of you. Just figure they plan on taking care of you. You know what I mean? Yeah. God bless the Republic. Death to the New World Order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. But we are on the march, both day and night. Ooh, Don, your number for night vision encloses again, please. At numbers 2317968458. Mark, God bless you.