October 9, 2013
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1h 1m
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Mark Koernke and caller Don discussed extensive firearms training and tactical preparedness on Weapons Wednesday, October 9, 2013. Topics included one-handed weapon manipulation, point shooting at close range, proper shooting stance and breathing techniques, the importance of training partners and observation to avoid bad habits, and vehicle defense scenarios. The show emphasized that all family members in a vehicle should be trained to operate available weapons, proper prioritization of protective gear (driver first), and the necessity of 24-hour preparedness including night vision technology. Don provided his contact number for night vision equipment sales.
- weapons wednesday
- firearms training
- point shooting
- one-handed shooting
- tactical preparedness
- vehicle defense
- night vision
- 1911
- glock
- ar-15
- shotgun
- magazine capacity
- self-defense
- preparedness
- militia training
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O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch him tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Good moon ladies and gentlemen, this is the afternoon intelligence report. I'm our quirky one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories west, southwest, east, and northeast. Ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to us on... Liberty Tree Radio dot 4mg dot com running with my friend Microstations, CB, Base Stations and Ultra Net Technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska. We're in the homework network on the eastern seaboard from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida for the bottom of Florida for the ark of the Gulf of Mexico headed Louisiana, Texas. Mississippi, Oklahoma, big chunk of Nebraska, a whole bunch of Wyoming to include both Pitt 3rd and 5th and our friends in the Civil War state of Colorado, a trigger pull away from open warfare. Waving to the left coast where the Brown streak is attacking firearms ownership even as we seek, you know, Brown Street. The Brown, you know, underpants, sergeant stripes, you know, white underpants, strange brown marker. Yeah, that's the governor. You know how it is. signing all of those, get the guns, confiscate the ammo, confiscate the mags, and the word confiscate is extensive through all of the stuff they're signing. So, open warfare in the Soviet, you know, socialist democracy of California with a K. Turning back to the east, we sweep across the plains, leap over the burgeoning banks of the Mississippian land and the Smokies slash the Blue Ridge, where the restaurant crews, grammar teams, OK teams, and Ma Bell Grammar Consortium of retired telecommunications workers bring us the Golden Spike. It is, of course, the, well it's a beautiful day outside, it's the 9th of October, it is the 5th year of open Fabian socialist and Soviet socialist occupation of America with a K 2013 old earth calendar, mine crazy town calendar, but we got Don with us here. Don, what's it like in your neck of the woods and what is this special day today, sir? Well, you hit that benchmark. It is a beautiful day here for this time of year or a third of the way through October. But, you know, let's do it as if it needs to happen really quick. So what we're going to do is just drop one in the chamber, let the slide jump the battery that's kind of rude to that extractor. But then we're going to fill the magazine well with the magazine and tell everybody it is weapons Wednesday. The perimeter is secure and you know there's plenty more where that came from. That means we can offer equal opportunity coercive force. Pop, pop, boom, boom. Replace the mag, replace the mag, replace the mag. Throw the empties towards the ally behind you who is loading more mags up. That's how it works. Throw the empties in the direction of the guy who is doing nothing but tapping off mags. One, two, three, four, five, and the top lesson. There you go. Handing it back to you loaded. Congratulations. Hey, let's get a worth your salt. Do you know how to do that one handed? That's a question. Question of the day. Can you load up your 1911, your Glock, your Ruger, your Smith & Wesson, you know, Box Magazine? Can you do that one handed? Can you do it opposite handed? Oh yeah, I can do it one handed. 90% of the right handers are saying right on there, smiling, that's a stupid question. I can do that Don. Okay. Can you do it off handed? Like the other hand? Because you know, if you get, I was talking, Mark, sometimes this comes up, but we were talking about guns that were shot. And in fact, I was sitting in the insurance guy's office yesterday. And sometimes a hand gets shot, if a gun gets shot, sometimes that little bit might not even be a whole bullet. Just that splinter, just face right into the end of that knuckle, and man, it's sticking right out there. And you look right at it, and you can't even extend that knuckle below it, because that splinter just acts like a nail right there right now. So, it really hurts too. It hurts right away. It hurts even to look at it. But here, oh, Manny just hit me in the head with another magazine that he wants full. And oh, I'm going to have to do that left handed. Is that something you've ever tried to do before? Top off your magazines for your handgun, let alone your long gun with your off hand, not your favorite hand. The hand that doesn't light as many synapse there in that gray matter computer between your ears. I had to run that up right away, Mark. Thank you very much. Well, again, one of the things that we need to recall is that we're going to be operating the weapon under many different conditions, not the least of which is, well, let's not forget, they've shown you in action movies you're going to be hanging from something, doing a triple somersault, and have to operate everything with one hand. Well, that may not be the case, but you're probably hanging on from dear life to something, and without a somersault, Excuse me. Let go. Don't worry, he'll be firing the armpit. Yeah, he's shooting them if you let go, but then in some instances you can as you fall through the helicopter rotor blades at just the right time. Yeah, you timed that perfectly. And shoot the pilot, because he was banking just right, grab onto the landing gear and do that double loop whammy, so he's thinking you pop the pilot right out of the seat, now he's falling and you're flying. Well in Hollywood and Don's imagination well, I was thinking more of the landing below the helicopter which you already shot it So it's probably ending up going down I would say that instead I would go for the double somersault hit the landing bar on the Huey Do a bit of a flip there that puts me in a 45 degree angle but five stories above the ground where I then roll to the ground do about five or six tumbles and come up my second weapon out of my crotch holster and that I then use to you know fire away at whatever else is there but of course rolling and then get jumping back up into a dead run. No, no you have to if you're really a masterful and you have a great great plan just as you come to a stop from expending all that energy you stand up in front of one of your opponents and the last bit of energy is a punch right to his gut and he coughs up a lung and you take his lung gun from him in the same moment. Boy, you know that that what's his name Clancy couldn't have wrote it better and he can't anymore He died a week or two ago didn't he and you know, we it is a weapons Wednesday you guys and you know some people There was a little slight of fans fantasy there you have to say But we've touched on this in particular as of late because you know what if you don't think about what can be done How do I do this? It's it's a real drag trying to figure it out as it's happening to you Now this goes over to repetitive training. We've talked about this before and this is a weapons Wednesday. And you know what that 1911 feels like in your hand or your Glock or your Ruger or your Smith and Wesson? Right on down the line. Your Taurus, your Rossi. Right on down the line. Can you close your eyes and see that target at 20 yards and bring that step forward as you're bringing the handgun up and now the handgun is on the target. Can you see that and do that all in the same thought? No faster than you can do it in real life. We're not asking you to imagine yourself a superman. But you know what? Even doing that mental drill over and over once. Now I'm not saying, you know, I saw it once in a video game and I've been imitating it ever since. And man, you just wait soon. They're going to call me Johnny Lightning because it don't work like that. It don't work like that. But remember the front of this. Do you recall? Remember? Can you feel that 1911, that Glock, that Ruger, that Smith & Wesson as you close your eyes? And imagine that step forward to give yourself a stable platform as you're swinging the gun up. Some call that the bowler. But if the gun is pointed at the ground, it has to go through 90 degree arc, 90 degree zigzag or wiggle or whatever, but it has to come up, doesn't it? So ignore the people who call it, well, you're a bowler. Ignore that. I'm not throwing a black rubber ball at 10 pins down there. They can try to transfer technique from one sport to one life or death event. It did just go right from sport to something as rude and crude and as mean as a life or death event. When you start to try to compare this to sport, Don't do not be distracted by the man behind the curtain. Okay? The quickest way, if it comes up in an arc... If it comes up kind of in a straight line and even before it's between your shoulder and your opponent, if the barrel is almost exactly pointed at your opponent, then that's okay. Don't worry about that. That might be the difference. And this goes over to what is called intuitive or hand or point shooting. We've addressed this. You can get away with that at five yards. You know, five yards, that's 15 feet. That's, you know, barely, only slightly longer mark than across the room I'm sitting here in. And I can say in the room you're sitting in obliquely, if you lean over a little bit, it's just a little bit longer than the far corner you can see. So again, you should be able to bring your handgun up and point it at that target, torso size, and go boom, boom. Put two into that torso without having to look down the sight line. about having to take knots to groove, so to speak, if you are that familiar with your handgun. Five yards, that's 15 feet. That's not much to ask. Because you know what, there are a whole lot of people that say, your handgun is useless at that yards and beyond. And they start to moan and groan, and they look at their foot, and their toes start to go back and forth, and they can never look you in the eye again. Because they're trying to sell you a great big lie. But now let's take this when you have that confidence to pick that gun up and go boom boom You haven't even looked down the slide you have not even looked down if you can do this with your wheel gun too Don't be shy But when you've got to this ability Now we're talking about five yards. We're only talking about 15 feet now There are a number of different ways to get there and we've talked about wasting ammunition and whatnot You know, any way that if it's sweeping across, if you have the good background, if it's one shot being brought right up and you have enough berm that, well, even if you're trying to learn this or you're trying to train this into someone, teach this to someone, even if their first shot or second or third comes off a little high, you're certain to stop the shot by the berm. Now, we're talking about five yards away, 15 feet. So if you've got a good berm, to be only 15 feet from it, It should stop most anybody's, you should have that angle to stop anybody's high shot. But you should probably practice that, even dry run it. If you have a good eye and you're looking at your student, the person you're trying to mentor and bring into this ability quicker, because we've talked about the difference between training and practice, we have tried to pound that into you. Many, many times, and I don't mean to pound. I'm not your father, I'm not your mother. We hear that a lot from her. How many times I have to pound this into you? We hear this from the teacher, the guy who's trying to teach us about the A4. We talked about triangles before. Don, pay attention. But again, sometimes it's repetitive. But this ability to come up to that five yard, boom, boom, and you haven't taken time to look down the gun yet, but you put two directly into the torso and you can get real good at this to where two are man centered. You can't cover, you can cover them with your hand and you can get so good you can cover them with the palm of your hand at five yards, boom, boom, and they'll be pretty close to center of mass too. But when you get to that ability you guys, where will you be if you were to take aim at 25 yards? Oh my, you've just gone up five times the distance. But now we're talking the difference between you're so confident that at five yards you're just knocking them down like man, you're throwing a bowling ball at them. You're swinging a 2x4 at them and they are falling. Now you might think, well that's bomb, that's They're never going to get that close to me. You do not know the future. You cannot tell the future. Neither can I. This is why we want to train for as many of them as we can imagine. Isn't this how we started that conversation, Mark? Close your eyes. Bring your handgun up. On your offhand. step forward with the offhand foot, the foot under that, so you build exactly the opposite frame that you are comfortable with when you step forward all you right-handed guys. You left-handed people, you need to gain that right-handed stance and grip and shoot because don't say that, well, I'm left-handed, I'm going to be on that side of the car, I'm left-handed, I'm going to be on that side of the alley. It doesn't work like that. Again, I remind you, can you tell the future? Hey, what's the lottery number? I've got a big room of pop bottles full now. Can you tell the future? Now, again, can you load your magazines with your off hand? Because, just one hand, you know how to do that. That's why we could talk about 1911's or we could talk about how rugged is your rear sight or why are those durations on the slide, those deep cuts into the slide. Those deep cuts are into the slide, so you can even grab that between your elbow and your ribs and push the frame forward until that slide is pulled back and then you release the slide and man oh man look it you've got one in the chamber and you're back in the fight one-handed no pun intended at all now can you do that with your offhand first here's a real good thing because make sure that your gun is unloaded Make sure that there's not one in the chamber like Don does right at the beginning of the hour. We put one in the chamber and we brag about that and then we fill up, drop a full magazine into the magazine well and we brag about that. But you know what? It's not good to play as we are talking or rather to train as we are urging with loaded guns. Make sure this, this is where airsoft guns would come in real handy. But you guys, do you wear a belt? Do you wear a combat situation? Do you wear a belt there, something you hang everything but a stinking crane on? And you know, even a little pry bar is a pocket crane, isn't it? We're going to move this and Archimedes is going to help us. I think I got the right ancient scientist there. I hope I used the right name. But again, that heavy belt, man, I got, put that magazine in, I just, I cannot bring that slide back. Hey, that heavy rear sight, you slide that, you bring that gun to where there's enough room to where you can hook that rear sight on the belt and push it toward your body. While you push that slide forward, all of the way, don't be shy here, we're dealing with, you know, immediate situations and drills that are life-threatening. Didn't we talk about this? This is not a fantasy and this is not a drill. Now, you push that slide, that frame, all the way forward until you're certain that when you just tilt that away and draw everything away from the belt and your leg so that nothing captures in that closing slide, the only thing that happens is it draws the one up off the top of the magazine and goes back to battery and, man, you're back in the fight again, aren't you? We've done that a couple of times in this conversation, haven't we? Can you do that with your offhand? can you load your magazine fed long gun with your off hand? can you charge it one handed? now there are those that are saying, oh it's a long gun Don you're talking about one hand hey those M16s man you can pick them up and just the AR M16 pattern types You can almost exactly like Hollywood, man, if you've got any kind of Casper Milk toast wrung out of you, you can pick it up by the pistol grip and you can point it at your opponent and you can go bang, bang, bang, can't you? Without even bringing it to your shoulder, almost like a giant, very awkward pistol. It's only five to seven pounds, come on! Yeah, yeah! If you can't do that, brother, you should be training to that ability. Because again, that goes back over to if you can't do that poke your we've talked about poking a shotgun real quick at an opponent that appears out of nowhere and only one hand, you know, you almost throw that shotgun at him. And at the same time, almost at the end of your arm extension, you pull the trigger and the recoil of the gun will almost stop the gun right there. And if you're smart and have done this or have expected this, and you know, you've got most of the Casper Milquetoast rung out of you already, you'll catch that gun right there and your opponent will catch everything that gun is sending down range. See how that works? Now again, that goes over to our combat situation. I've seen people shoot rabbits like that, Mark, and I don't... I do that rather excitedly. I've seen people bang bunnies like that, point the gun, you know, it's like eight yards or ten yards away, and just point the gun, bang, and just catch the gun at the right time, and they're looking right down the barrel as it happens, right across them and right in the right place, and bang, poor bunny. But you know, those people make Don look like Ben. That's what I want to grow up to be able to do. But the thing about that is here, there's nothing about we are children playing at games here. It's nothing like that at all, is it? Because you can look at skills and say, that's to be admired. I would like to train to that ability. We've talked about that poking the shotgun at your opponent. If all you can do, you can't bring two guns and bring it to your shoulder, you almost start to throw the gun at him while it's pointed at him, no doubt, because the gun that is not pointed at you is not a threat to you. Need I emphasize that again? You've heard that on the hour before. Now, this comes over to dodging a gun as you step in and close on it. This comes over to flanking your opponent in the field. But let's get back to that. Almost exactly, that quick, almost toss. You're almost throwing that shotgun at your opponent, but you have your hand around the stock and your finger in the trigger guard. And almost at the end of your arm extension, you let that trigger come to a stop. in mid-air as you're tightening up your hand and that recoil will mostly generally bring that gun to a stop but you don't let it fall out of your hand and you still have control of it. This is not something that you would just practice in your backyard. Unless you've got a pretty big backyard but this is something I've seen it done. You've seen it done in the movies and again, something to strive for. It is an ability that, boy, I'd really like to... You see that ability word there? Able to. It is an ability that someday I would like to be able to do. See how that works? And we're talking about gun handling here, aren't we? Now, I've kind of just... You asked me what the day was like, Mark, and I got on a roll there and I did not stop, did I? But every one of those words is pertinent. Every one of those, if you rerun it sometime and say, I don't believe you Don, rerun that first half hour and listen to it again. Hey, he wasn't lying and hey, that is important and man, we need to try to gain and improve unto that ability. It's a great day here. One of the things that we've talked about time again is also repetition and training with technique. Now, in some cases this requires a tutor for no other reason, and in fact I recommend working in teams anyway if you can, because the individual can critique you because he's watching you as you perform. And if there's a correction needs to be made, the tutor's mission, and you take turns, you go back and forth through this at the same time, you know, but during the same session, repeat, repeat, repeat. If something needs to be addressed, your second observer will catch things that you assume you need to work into the program. This is where you can actually train yourself into a bad habit if you're not careful. So if an S-O-P-E-N-E-T-R-A-N-I-C-E-S-O-P-E-N-E-T-R-A-C-U-S-E-T-E-S-E-T-E-S-E-T-E-E-T-E-E-T-E-E-T-E-E-T-E-E-T-E-E-T-E-E-T-E-E-T-E-E-T-E-E-T-E-E-T-E-E-T-E-E-T-E-E-T-E-E-T-E-E-T-E-E-T-E-E-T-E Yeah, I remember that exciting combat scene in the very beginning with his wife. You know, where she's playing with the tennis racket. Well, you thought I was talking about where she's trying to cut and slice him a new one, right? No, I'm talking before that. Remember the very beginning of the movie? Perfect form. Perfect form. Since we don't have a computer holograph system that will stand next to us and tell us when we're in perfect form. Perfect form. Instead, we need to have somebody there so they can first of all, we ID the process, we both observe the process, it can be a tutorial, it can be a class on a video or whatever where you're watching an action. usually they break down the specific step-by-step points. A magazine have to do this because they, you know, a photo session, the guy has to come up with a way to explain to you something that's a motion or an activity that takes fluid real time. So what they do is a series of key point photographs. Now what do these do? Well, they highlight the particular point, the initial activity, For instance, you know, you see undercover carry where they show you the clearing of a weapon, which is the most common aspect of a training session. They really, you know, for most people they need to practice and it's something they typically don't very often because they're told that, well, practice is terrible. Well, of course the system tells you that practice or watching yourself in a mirror. Well, that's crazy. Really? Observing yourself and critiquing your action. Again, if nothing else, doing just like we saw with Miami Vice years ago. People, they acknowledge that just with that one program, the mimicking by 80% of what people were doing in that program, because it was cool, man, changed the performance in the streets dramatically. Think about that because, while that's right, Miami Mice was one of the first series where they actually had every shooter go through a tactical course. Anybody that was going to be in that program, if they were going to be supposedly handling a gun, remember there's a series of class and instructional groups that was their mission. And it became their forte before the program started, but it raised their stature up and everybody adopted their program. Everybody had to go take their classes. And what happened is, step one is, people just simply watched the program and said, man, that's really cool. That's the cool thing. That's the way to be, man. Well, so everybody mimicked it. Which is why, as you'll notice, more and more we go back into all these television programs. For the most part, they do everything they can to, again, re-instruct bad habits. That's not accidental. That's intentional. Like I said my favorite the homie shoot, you know, I mean yeah, yeah Yeah, everybody lays their 45 or their pistol down on its side and holds it at hip height and really doesn't try to aim and you got to push the gun towards to get about three or four extra feet per second out of each round you push it in there hitting you as high as they can. Yes, right. He's like punching man. It's punching you see in the whole idea behind that with the homie shoot is just the idea with that I saw that because that's cool because that was in the you see television, but it wasn't It made no sense. It served. Of course, it wasn't a cool thing. Yeah, I guess spray and pray was the basic rule and still is. So because of that and other things that are done. But in reverse order, remember, the simple process of one program changed the demographics on the street. and that in itself should tell you something. So now, once you have a program that is or a lesson plan that is demonstrated in video form and book form or whatever and you follow through, your assistant, and each of you will be the assistant to the other, your job is to correct if you see a mistake being made based upon the fact that you both agreed, even if you don't have a third teacher, you know, a sage, an instructor, If you don't, if you simply look at the processes that are available out there and are readily understandable, the big thing is to again point out a correction that needs to be made. Typically the most common small details are thumb and finger placement. everything else is pretty straightforward and people get well you know once people get into the basic niche you know where how the body should be bent leaning forward and into the weapon this is something that really is you know that needs to be promoted women have a big problem this you watch video after video on YouTube go watch videos on YouTube And you'll see that girls who weigh 98 to 110 pounds are trying to fire a 12-gauge shotgun. And you'll notice that when they first start out, they're standing straight up. By the time they hit the third round, they're kind of hooking back, right? Or even leaning back to begin with. Right. Yeah, because they're thinking, and again, this is where proper instruction dictates they should be in the rest position. This is one of the ways to alleviate that problem. Remember, why do they lose control? Well, they lose control because they aren't instructed in breathing, number one, typically. because they may have strength limitations. Typically upper body strength girls have strengths in other areas. We love them for all of them. But the thing is that again having the weapon in safety station, okay, and relaxed means that when the weapon is brought up a regimen of steps need to be in place so that breathing, then bringing the weapon to bear, leaning into the weapon, firing, and remembering that if it looks like you're starting to fog, or get a little shaky. What that means is you probably weren't paying attention. You stopped breathing. We find that to be the most common event with shooters. They get so into it, but they're also... Remember, take that third breath, let it half way out. Now pull the trigger, squeeze the trigger. Kaboom, kaboom, kaboom. Well, the process is a little longer. The weapon's got a bigger magazine capacity and the person is so busy focusing on what they're doing that they don't think about actually in the middle of a cycle taking a breath and reoxygen eating. Or stop what you're doing. Don't shoot any farther if you actually have deprived your body of oxygen. And it happens. This is one of the reasons you'll see stringers, strays and misses on a regular basis. So again, all it would take is a little more teach, a little more effort, and a little more instruction, and those shooters would be very satisfied, and everybody would be satisfied with their performance. Another thing that we've emphasized many times, do not allow your student to hurt themselves. There's all these cute videos on YouTube showing young shooters popping themselves in the head or hurting their shoulder because I Didn't put the gun up to their shoulder. That's the fault of the teacher and not the fault of the shooter You see how that works? So everybody out there if you let that happen the flinch factor you're going to create is will take weeks, months, years, or you may never recondition the shooter out of that. Now what good is that to you when your life's at stake? Was it funny or is it deadly? See how that works? So when you're teaching anyone when you're talking about arms again treat the individual courteously correct the individual whenever possible if Need be don't re-invite the person if they won't pay attention Again, the aforementioned techniques are higher forms These are not things that you want to introduce your student to on the first day Oh, no getting familiar with your long gun or your handgun. We're gonna teach you how to point you Right isn't the second thing you show them step one is we're gonna make sure you know how to use it and then we're gonna work you into you know advanced skills or to you know specific skills based upon what you may be doing some individuals and You're gonna decide to qualify them accordingly are gonna gravitate as we've said before towards certain weapons and there are reasons you judge the shooter accordingly doesn't mean they shouldn't be cross trained in every weapon you have everyone should. Don Max Velocity put an excellent article up a couple other people have too about this attack by the motorcycle gang the street punk gang wasn't regular motorcycle club as a street punk gang and as one guy everybody's pretty well agree it's like man I'd have shot him How did you shot him? I've been double. That's the only option you really have anymore. And the whole point is that everybody in the car needs to know how to shoot. No, not just mom and dad because as was pointed out when the one guy was evaluating the attack, the first thing they were doing is beating the back window where the child was trying to get in. Now, if you have older children and because the guy who's driving the car should be focusing on driving the car, something we've talked about many times, everybody needs to know the basics of how to use the weapon. Now, don't worry, it won't be too hard to hit something trying to crawl through the window. I really don't think, oh, I don't know how you missed him. I don't think I missed him, Paul. There's just a lot of leaky holes in him, but he didn't really catch on right away. That's okay, he's wheezing now. There you go, he's falling back. That's good. Grab him off with that other driver. That's right, yeah, just don't worry. He dropped straight down and the back wheel went over his head. You finished him, Dad. You got him, he's good. See how that works? But everybody, the same thing, the same discussion is the driver need to be focused on. It doesn't mean the driver shouldn't be armed. But everybody else needs to know how to use the arms that are available because Every direction from the car in this case was all being attacked. They didn't care. They were just a bunch of knuckle dragon animals who were puffing up and were on a power trip. Whether or not they would have killed, mauled or whatever they did, after the fact they thought about it. But in the meantime, the damage or injury that's done which you may never heal from is done and we won't let the can't let that happen you just simply can't let that happen so everything you have in the way of a weapon needs to be used as a weapon another thing real quick I want to point out to the guy did bring up you know a lot of new cars guys have shutdown circuits now if you have a bump if you hit something in a certain with any kind of energy done that many of the newest cars now have shut down systems on board They'll sell that to you on the anti-fire safety thing because of the high pressure. Oh yeah. And coming right up, the direct injection, high pressure of a number of different induction systems. Well, how do we get the gasoline into the motor, kind of? But that's a safety thing. But it can be done and measured, you guys. They haven't even, you know, they can count if your motor's spinning along at 2,000 RPMs and one cylinder doesn't fire one time around now. in one crank rotation, one cylinder does not fire, the computers can measure that speed. That's how fine the computers are now. So I am pretty certain that the computer could measure demand for fuel as much as it measures g-forces of impact. Yes, exactly. Well, that's one of the things, what they're pointing out is that the safety circuits are set up and this is something that is a known thing. So as far as the idea of using the car as a weapon, if at all possible, avoiding the targets for a very different reason in that you don't want to get stuck in a kill zone. Right. You see how that works? But on the other hand, see now if you're thinking ahead and you're using the right vehicles and you make sure you're not stuck with something that new, then you put them under your tires and you grease the tracks with them. It's that simple. Another reason for push bumpers, guards, and even rails underneath, just simply protection rails. The other thing was pointed out is you run over a motorcycle, you don't look at a damage you can do under the vehicle if it's a smaller, shorter vehicle. Now this under the argument about what can happen, this can happen anytime. No matter how hard you try to plan, it's going to happen when you probably least expect it. I wasn't really thinking about this, but now I'm forced to. Now the same is true going back to this whole thing about point shoot. This is something else that is especially critical. You see, let me give an example of what Don's been trying to point out here. For people who wonder about why would I need even practice at range, look at some of the short ranges where they're pumping in to the cop shop minds of how close they expect to be engaging you at and repeatedly doing so while they approach. Look at the distances. Now the important thing is once you become totally familiar, step one as we pointed out, become familiar with your weapon. And I mean immerse yourself in it. Ignore the BS from the yappers. Their job is to try and disenfranchise you from firearms across the board. So telling you you shouldn't be handling it, you shouldn't touch it, no it should be locked up and it should be all disassembled. Tell them stuff it, Clowney. Now it's just like anything else. How do you become proficient with a car? Do you lock it up in the garage and only take it out on Sundays? Oh man, let's go for a ride. Yeah, exactly. Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo time to go touring. You see? I'm fast at this thing. Go! Hey Mark. We got a caller. Caller, jump in there. Go ahead. Hey Mark, it's JC from PA. I just wanted to comment on what you were talking about with the article that Max has noted. A lot of people they need to put certain things in perspective. I'm not a huge fan of extended magazines on pistols. I think it makes them look like a framing square. Much good for it. But, in that case, I think they extended like, for instance, the Glock 33 round mags. I think they have a great advantage, especially for the driver. And it's also another reason why people should practice if they are right handed. practice becoming proficient or semi proficient shooting one-handed with their weak hand. I'm fortunate that I'm a southpaw so shooting from the driver's position is not as hard to do but it's still something that should be practiced. Also the other thing I wanted to point out If you have one weapon in the vehicle and you know you're going to have your wife, girlfriend, or child with you, you need to make sure... It's a good idea to make sure that that weapon that you have is something they can also handle. I'm a huge Glock 21, you know, the .45 Auto fan, but my girlfriend and my daughter cannot accurately shoot that weapon because the grip is so big. So it would make sense to take my Model 92 or my Glock 17 and use that. Because of that particular situation, like you said, everyone in the vehicle, if at all possible, needs to be able to use that weapon. Yeah, in fact, I would point out this is something where we talked about evacuation or if we know we're going through what has basically become Indian territory. That's where we go the next step and actually practice area control. Just like you do if you're in a defensive position and you're dug in, each person has an area of responsibility. The same would be true on a vehicle. It could be a van, it could be an SUV, it could even just be a four-door sedan or a two-door sedan, which I really don't like two-door sedans for the very reason we're talking about because there's only two ways out, but there are two seats. two sets of seats, front and rear. And if you've ever watched people try to get out of stuff like that or have to maneuver in things, situations like that, it's tough. The big thing is that again, each person focus on their problem. Now, it doesn't mean they don't keep an eye on the environment, but if each person stays focused on their area of control, there's no setting surprise against anybody. Each individual, at the very least, again, the other thing is communication. The driver needs to be informed of a threat. If it looks like a threat is approaching from the left, in other words, everybody has to work out an SOP system for that. If they have to, they return, they may not necessarily return, but they may engage in fire. If it looks like someone is trying to come up, again, the sneaky Pete routine, they're obviously armed, they're trying to get in close, they figure you're going to pop the driver and then everybody else is in the kill zone. Before that happens, if they're armed and they're approaching and they're obvious, it's obvious they're aggressive. I'm sorry guys, You're around enough people you can figure out what their intent is by muscle, set, face, you know, eyes, the whole nine yards. That's why when you hear about these people and they pick it apart in courtroom and something that lasted a minute and a half will be talked about or picked apart for, you know, in three to five hour sessions and it's like, it just doesn't make any sense. Number one is you're there, you're on the site, you see what's happening, the threat is obvious, the intent is demonstrated, you do what you have to do. But again, SOP, especially in evacuation, if you're in an evacuation situation, survival escape and invasion scenarios, especially, everybody needs to be prepared to participate. And again, they also need to know about emergency evacuation of the vehicle, for instance. What's prioritized? Well, if you leave the vehicle and you have your weapon but there's no mags or anything else with you, you're 7, 8, or even maybe 32 shots away from eternity. Which is why again you have to be thinking all the time This is another reason that the gear should be at all possible It should be attached to the individuals once they know they're going into what is basically a preparatory fighting mode That's another most common mistake. It's like I've said, you know, you have the can set up You have an evacuation package or you have emergency packages that are set up in the buildings. I always incorporate gear something to carry with. Doesn't have to be fancy. The idea is you put a bag over the shoulder. The shoulder's got five, ten, twenty magazines in it. It's got maybe a compress. It might even be a full little belt kit. It's got a canteen. It's got a few other items there. Maybe even something to eat. Purely matter what you can organize. And again, something that's got to be stable. But when you grab it, it's what you need to keep the first and foremost things. It's what's there and needed to keep the weapon functioning. And the big thing about, like you said, the stick mags, 1911, typically how I'll carry a 1911, I'll use an 11 shot primary mag in the weapon. If I really suspect we're going to be shooting, otherwise I'll carry a standard 7 round mag nowadays, maybe an 8 because the 8's are available. But an 11 round mag is in the weapon first, it gets dropped. After I use it, it gets dropped. And then I go to 7s and I stay with the standard capacity mags. and I focus on hit, hit, hit. The reason that that 11 rounders there is because chances are if you're being set upon, that's the initial shock point. You're going to have the greatest number of targets probably available at that moment that are exposed. After that, everything is whack-a-mole. Hit the gopher. But in phase one most rounds available and like you said for the drivers the stick mags for the Glocks or the stick mags for any of the other you know weapons that are out there where they have a little larger capacity as long as you're satisfied with their performance That's where they're needed just like drums on a case and even M1 a's etc The drums are there for that type of operation for security and for volume fire in a particular mission, you know era application and Most of the time the standard 20s and 30s are enough. But that is supplemental firepower where it's needed at a particular point. Getting out of an ambush, breaking contact, that's where you want firepower. And for the driver, hey! He gets threatened just like everybody else and most likely anybody's experience is going to go after the driver. You know, guys, we've talked about this for as long as I've been on the air. If there's six of us in the car and I've got a Kevlar helmet and Fred's got a vest and somebody else has some other protection, I'm going to tell you if I'm not the driver, I'm not wearing the Kevlar helmet. The driver is. Everybody understand why? If the driver dies, we all stay with him. It's like, oh, this is not good. Well, I'm perfectly safe though for a few more moments. But wait a minute, Ralph has slumped over the wheel because we didn't give him the vest and he doesn't have the helmet on and he got a good crease to the old temple there. If he had the Kevlar helmet on, he might still be driving right now, you see. So that's another thing to take into consideration is prioritizing. If you have only one heavy gun, the pecking order is driver, heavy gun, and the rest of the infantry. in that order. But if you've got something big, heavy and belt fed, well I'm going to protect that guy because he's going to be a bullet magnet. The driver's going to be a bullet magnet. If you look at what they did, like when they finally did stop this guy, first thing they did is they beat the driver out. The woman grabbed the baby and she was on the other side and they were going after the child. They were going after the woman. They were openly going after the woman and the child. That's now been verified by witnesses. So that's a demonstration of yeah well and after the fact they'd all come out of their their knuckle dragging stupor and oh We didn't mean to bust the child's head open and have brains leaking all over the place when we beat him with a helmet We didn't mean to break the woman's jaw and dislocate her hip We were just trying to what were you trying to do? Oh, we were just terrorizing Yeah, see how that works. Oh, but oh, but you need to understand now. He just went a little crazy in the head. Well before that happens, they'd be a little crazy and dead. That settles it real quick. Don, I'm sorry. Jump in here, please. The other thing too, we're going farther without. We're having a rush. Night vision technology. Guys, we're not just facing these problems during the day. It's going to be at night. Some of you are not, I mean I can hear it right now. I'm not gonna beat up. I'm not gonna, you know, be a combat infantry man, and I'm not gonna fight. Yeah, but you do. You're all thinking you plan on DD'ing the AO and being a sneaky Pete. Well, if you can't see at night being sneaky Pete and stumbling around in the dark and exactly impressive, you get my drift? So, it's a 24 hour war or it's a 24 hour escape and evasion program you're going to be part of, guys. Especially if you're the epicenter and you have to, again, leave the area of operation temporarily even. So, night vision technology is useful. If, Don, you have it, what do you have available and how can we get a hold of you, sir? Well, as you point out, 24 hours and, you know, if you're looking around you guys, we tell you to keep looking around and there are people who can do that on the dark nights. So, it's good to kind of level the playing field, isn't it? We've talked about that before. Joe in the morning says if you want to talk about seeing in the dark, give down a call. And hey, if you want to talk about, you know, gun sites, goggles, green screens, or thermal, my number is 231-796-8458. We can talk about that first generation gun site, $429 right in your mailbox. The manufacturer is so confident that it'll live on top of your M1 or your AR10 that they're going to I'll have a little bit of time right after the top of the hour to talk, but if you can't do that then leave me a message. My number is 231-796-8458. Doggles or gun sites, you guys. We'll be back at 8 o'clock. There's a couple of things, you know, guns, when I'd like to, you know, take a little more time and elaborate on. But, you know, we tell you to keep looking around. As you point out today, Mark, that initial, you know, bringing up the gun, whether it's your good or bad hand, you know, when it comes out of the holster or how it is carried, how do you carry your long gun? And in relation to the column or relation to your formation, how is your gun deployed? Just some things to ponder on there because we've talked about picking apart situations and what would happen if... The more of those you shuffle into your subconscious the less problems you're going to have with gee I wonder what happened instead of gee I think I know what's happening and we're going to do this and For stall the events that appear to be unfolding in front of us see how that works boy it almost came came out like a novel there didn't it but you know People you know some some authors try I'm going to write a novel some day mark and and and sit down and never doing in it, but you know Isn't your life your own little novel and wouldn't you like to have a whole lot of pages in it? And at the end, wouldn't you like that novel to say that? And I was on the side that defended the Republican and now we're sitting here and I'm watching my sons and daughters and grandsons and granddaughters and oh by the way that one's a real good shooter and over there he expounds gun rights although there's almost no need to talk about it these days because well everybody almost agrees on it but You've got to have those people that are willing to run through the fight. So again, it's good to plan things, even if they seem horrific or as if you are dealing with monsters. It's good to have plans, isn't it? We can all agree on that. And, hey, look up and down your block. If you live in the city, look around in your neighborhood if you live in the city. And if you live in a country, no doubt you've been over that hill and across that swale and up and down the creek or, you know, that 12 gauges walked across that field with you and into that group and so on and so forth. But become familiar with your local area, your immediate area. Close your eyes. How much of it do you remember? Oh, that's a little bit bigger than close your eyes. feel that handgun or that long gun and imagine it coming up to the... and if you're in the neighborhood, imagine, try to remember how much the three or four blocks of range around you and if you're out in the country, try to remember, you know, like a hundred yards radius from the house and sometimes if you're out in the country, well that hundred yards, that 300 feet radius from the house is nothing but grass and, you know, something that... try to imagine the closest cover. and the other side of the coin is that closest cover is probably where that long range guy is going to be if they decide to come and knock on your door. And we'll close with this thought because I have to go Mark, but you guys they come crashing through the door you deal with the team as they come through the door just because you heard that creak and the dog barked outside and all of those little things because you've been paying attention and now you've picked up that long gun and you brought the handgun and you've dealt with them at the door and you look through and the three four guys out there and they're coming you've dealt with them too that doesn't mean you can just stand out in the yard and jump up and down and do a victory dance so we are at the top. Yes we are and for everybody out there listening it is Weapons Wednesday. Don your number for night vision again please. That number is 2317-96845-8 God bless the Republic. Death to the new world order. We shall prevail ladies and gentlemen the Empire is on the run. But we are on the march both day and night. Ooh-rah! Kick them in the slats, beat them down really hard. 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