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He's rough. It's the Mayan Sun God. Well, that happens it happens, but obviously however they threw the Ouija sticks and misread the last one Yeah, we are hereby almost another year. We keep ticking this down We're gonna be at the one-year benchmark from the year of doom 2012 would you make the cool? So you know complement yourself however this happened frustrating them by not being one of the sacrifices up there at the top of the pyramid your heart being got out and somebody drinking you're the Urine that you you know again had extracted by knife at the other direction. Oh that had hurt Oh, they're all kinds of terrible things it chunks of meat and flesh flying everywhere Yeah, and some crazy guy drinking your pee. Well, what can I say my own Sun God worshippers being what they are as it is We got a whole bunch of other things going on his quartermaster Friday. Let's double-check. I heard another ding Do we have down there? Okay, very good We are looking at, let's see, a total of 1 in 2, 30 days of September. We only got 30 days of September, guys. We only got three days left after today. September of 2013. So, I will remind everybody that this weekend is going to absorb two of those three days. We have Camp Emmerich, heavy construction going on there, parking will be rerouted, pay attention to the ground traffic control personnel. Also, 11th Regimental Combat Team, individuals, contact your OIC. for information about monitoring in the Midland area and who is on schedule for what hours through the evening this weekend. Party on the beach this Saturday, party on the beach this Saturday, party on the beach this Saturday, oh and by the way, party on the beach this Saturday. So for everybody out there listening, going to have a lot of work to do, a lot of things you catch up on. In addition to that, by the way, you know, I got to compliment Henry from the Trenches Road Report. Guys, there's a couple people that write tactical stories and bring work up on a regular basis. Max Velocity Tactical is one of them. There's a realistic rucking. There's apparently a 10% of teapot. Not really, but it's good that he brought a series of subjects up and some people responded in different ways. Well, congratulations. Take a look at the piece there. And it is actually a good discussion about what I've said before about palatizing. Remember that there's a couple of dirty tricks here that really nobody talks about anymore. Actually, the government even looked at it after Vietnam and considering the amount of material and resources that were laying around that could be grabbed, snagged, and carried away, one of them was, of course, to you, to create what was called the box hole. How many of you remember the box hole? No, not the fox. The box hole. B-O-X. Box hole. Anybody? That sounds bad by the way. I know oh man. What the hell is that? Well actually the idea was to create a man cart Kind of like something they built most people don't know this but there are a lot of unique tools made for the airborne Over the years they were trying to come up with solutions to deal with problems one of them was a collapsible Utility cart basically just a two-wheel canvas bucket cart for hauling stuff well, what kind of stuff? Well guys, some of the stuff that kick out the arse end of an airborne aircraft, you know, an airborne unit aircraft, is cargo containers. These drop containers have all the other stuff that you need if you're a gunner, for instance. Let's say you're a crew-served 90mm recoilless rifle weapon, you know, weapons operator. Or a 3.5 inch bazooka operator, 3.5 inch rocket launcher. Or a Browning 1919 machine gun crewman. Maybe you're a M60 hog operator later on depending on what era well you got stuff to move a lot of heavy stuff to move that cost a lot in terms of calories and you know ouch so one of the things that you need to look at is uh... what are we looking for? Captain Monahan just wanted to borrow the post hole digger. Well go ahead and give it to him. He's got it. Oh okay. He's just let me know. No he can't use our post hole digger. We need it for our firefly remake. That's a whole post hole digger. Oh, it's for digging holes for posts. Anyway, the whole idea here is that these little carts, you know, let's, well, again, what's the weight of a 50 caliber, a can of 50 caliber ammunition in a 50 caliber can? What's the weight of a 30 caliber can? Now, multiply that. Try to get it where you need to you've been dropped all over creation you're spread out over a mile and a half two miles of area You got roads pathways even open fields that you can use so they decided to come up with little utility carts Well later on after Vietnam the idea was you know we're gonna be you know we're still looking at the Cold War We learned some lessons about having to move troops and the idea was to come up with what they called the box hole and this was something It was like a portable one-man camper ultra lightweight You could carry all your junk. You could carry a lot of other stuff with it. It was for infantry use in an area of activity and they actually experimented with and demonstrated how it could be used. The idea could even be used to dig into position, bury it in place, and you've got yourself dry overhead cover, etc., etc. So that's a little example of going in the other direction probably farther than I think you'd want to, but you never know. Somebody might come up with some real neat solutions. Let me give you an example of something like that you could do. conduit or aluminum pipe if you have access to that but conduits cheap. Create a rickshaw type frame. Grab yourself some of these older, there's a couple of yard sales here locally, probably get them for nothing by the end of the sale, but these old rooftop cargo transporters. Hey, they're already built and they're ultra lightweight. And you bolt those down or secure those to that frame. You've got yourself a watertight cargo transport. It can go behind a bike if you build it right or it can be just man portable. Bicycle wheels work just fine keeping it up off the ground, out of the dirt, out of the crud and cheap and inexpensive. So a number of different ways you can make the frame so you can take advantage of bike parts to mount. For instance, use a couple of front harps. to mount the wheels, weld that fixture to the frame, make the frame wide enough so it can handle that container that you found, and or make your own out of lightweight plastic or whatever you want to do. Personally, I like the idea of grabbing it from the shelf where somebody's already built it and me improving upon it a little bit, man, I don't cry when I throw it away or have to abandon it and leave it behind. But I'll point out there's another tool out there and at the yard sales and the church sales here locally right now there's a bunch of them and even the resale shops and that is golf caddies. Two wheel, the new ones are extra wide. I've mentioned this many times guys. The new ones are designed so it doesn't harm the sod. The wheels are wider but they're not here, they're plastic. They're just cheap, cast plastic made over in communist China. But these are even collapsible. These things can be folded up so that they're very very small when they're not in use. But if you need something as a utility, kind of like a little mini wheelbarrow for moving arms, spare barrels, ammunition, whatever. These aluminum or pot metal golf caddies are perfect for the solution. Kind of like a smaller version of the box hole idea. Now the whole point here is, well, I can't carry that everywhere and eventually I'd lose it. Who cares if eventually you lose it? Somebody will probably pick it up anyway. But who cares if you lose it? If you paid nothing for it, like you can get them for free or for $1 or $2 at a sale, And you use it once and if you have to throw it away, it's paid for itself. But consider that if you're able to use it or at least use it in an area, kind of like leave it behind, somebody else picks it up or you pass it on to somebody else who's in the AO, what's the big deal? Who cares? It's paid for, you used it, you got your pennies worth out of it, now it's gone. But it would be very, very useful, especially in the early or in intermediate insertion situations, you know, in phase one, where we're moving a lot of extra equipment into place. And one of the discussions here in this article that's on Henry's page It's called realistic rucking by Max Velocity Tactical. Well, one of the things that he said, you know, I've seen some stuff around about recently about rucking. I remember back in the day when I could ruck 20 miles carrying 150 pounds in about an hour. You know, oops, BS alert. Now, 150 pounds of junk. Well, it is kind of interesting by the time you're done, although you sure as aren't going to do it in one hour, not 20 miles. That's a day's worth of marching up and down, especially cross country. But if you are looking at a situation where you are, again, moving a regular combat load, let me ask you something. How much are you actually carrying in a day? Have you ever thought about that? Have you ever taken your Webgear, loaded it up? Just your Webgear. I'm not talking about your backpack yet. Want you take your web gear want you to load it all up combat load it even a minimal spec Let's say that because all marks crazy. I only carry six or eight mags. That's what somebody told me to do blah blah. Okay fine do that Load up the six or eight mags with ammunition put everything in where it's supposed to be by the way fill up the water containers and take that and your weapon with a magazine not one of the magazines in your web gear a separate magazine load it up Put that on a scale and figure out how much you're carrying. Now you may have any number of combinations notice. I can't say well take your TA-50 a fixed 56 gear or your TA-90 gear It can be whatever you're using some are using molly rigs some are using independent. You know like earlier market fixed vest systems Let's not forget that a lot of you have now embraced body armor So if you're gonna weigh that web gear and it's a vest you better put the body armor with it because you planned on wearing that Now, just take a look at the weight of that by itself. Then, let's take a look at the idea of what we're going to be carrying, and I think this is really the emphasis where he's talking about realistic rucking. Now let's look at what is your backpack weighing? A lot of people are using large Alice packs, large type 90s, large multi-liter bags of whatever kind. There's all kinds of them out there. So many you can't count them all. And stuff that's come and gone that people bought, which like we did, we got a bunch of the Dutch medium-sized combat packs that were in Dutch DPM camo pattern. We got about 200 of those in a unit here locally. Actually more than one unit. One group of platoon bought part of them. We got another batch from the scrap and junk. So we outfitted a whole bunch more. And then I actually helped out a unit that was down towards, let's see, Blissfield, Michigan. And they got another 20. So we used them as we could. And they've augmented that with other equipment as they found it. Alice, Bax, whatever. But if we find it, it works. We'll grab it. Now those packs average about 40 pounds loaded. The Alice pack plus or minus, because one of the things about the Alice packs is that they were variable geometry packs. In other words, I can add stuff to that. I can add bags on top of the bags. If I do it right and I get them by the right first bag, I can add a bag to a bag and add another bag to a bag. And I can have popcorn chipmunk cheeks going out in all directions. Not a problem if the stuff's not too heavy. As I've pointed out time and again, you can have everything ultra light. By the time you pile up all the extra ultra light stuff you have, you're not so ultra light after all. So the real consideration is your core kit. And when I say core, this is stuff you're not going to be probably dropping. Again, for long term use, you're going to put it in a location when you fix your area of operation. But otherwise, this stuff is not going to be consumed. It's going to be with you from this point forward, in other words, for as long as you're in the field. Now, while a lot of people say pare down and carve down and take off, my argument is that sounds great if you have that logistics train to the rear, but I'm going to remind everybody of something. In the earliest phase on, whatever you have is all you have, and it's going to get thinner as you go. And, extra tools, and they're not really extra, but every person carrying tools means that you can do things. Not just one thing slowly, but if everybody's got the same basic tools, you can do one thing real fast. In fact, you can do it very efficiently once you've got somebody understanding how team effort works. Okay? Especially with 10 men working together. If they all have tools, they can all mutually get the job done that much faster. Or you can assign them different tasks and different missions can be accomplished within a reasonable period of time. This includes machetes, universal tools, entrenching tools, etc. As soon as I say entrenching tools, someone's going to say, I wouldn't carry that. OK, well, in your unit you might not. In our unit you will. It's part of our SOP. Now, we can drop it and dislodge it from the kit if there's some undying need to do so. One of the things about that is you may attach it to a piece of equipment, again the backpack, which is typically going to be dropped and left in a static position, especially as an area of operation is decided. You know you know where you're going to be dropped into, you know where you're going to be operating out of. You may lose it after you've dropped it in place. Remember that. That's one of those things that, oh well, guess what? You won't be carrying it for very long because you lost most of them. That can happen. Something got dropped in the wrong place. Kaboom! You are moved out of an area because you have aggressive force strength. That is why another rule is whenever you do drop equipment you cash it. You always look for places where you can hide it out of sight, out of mind and it is not really obvious. If you are going to secure the site and it has, for instance, a command operations element, medical element, etc., it is more likely you are going to maintain control over it and the survey indicates that that area will be maintained and won't be lost easily. So there are a number of reasons for being able to drop what we call the house load some place where it is secure. If you're working as an independent unit, then you are picking a base of operation of your own, especially as an unconventional or paraconventional force. Or even if you are a conventional force working with other groups, you're going to have an area of control or an area of operation that is your area of responsibility. So you'll be setting up house there. Now, the balance is, and one of the things I've pointed out is add-on pouches for consumables. Now there's a reason for this. The core tools, your clothing, water purification, cooking utensils, extra medical support, which isn't really extra once you start using it, you'll all of a sudden realize you needed more. I know the debate. I've seen it about how poor if it casualties can be. Yes, we know that. In some cases, It's going to be really, really bad. But in most cases, the big thing is have the basics to keep the person alive. That's our first key issue, getting the person out alive. Special Forces medics, they changed their mission back after Vietnam, actually. In fact, it was dramatically changed with the advent of more and more air defense capability at the shoulder level. In other words, the individual shoulder fired weapon. Because of that, Rather than expecting immediate, you know, within a matter of minutes or within a matter of under an hour, medical evacuation by helicopter, shortening the time for immediate response with a patient, the argument was that you're going to be walking out to a secure area three days, five days, six days, seven days, which means you have to keep your casualty alive and treat that casualty for a number of different problems, all varying depending upon the type of injury. There were a lot of both spoken truths and unspoken truths about that with regard to how bad that situation might get. But the bottom line is it was understood. So I don't see the problem here is most people can't wrap their brain around the idea we're not going to see instant medevac in most cases, but we can do it. It won't be air, but it could be ground depending upon the type of area, the area of control type of combat we're engaged in, type of combat operations, and again, how well the host organizations locally are prepared for and can deal with wartime situations with regard to medical support, communications, and logistics. This is why logistics is emphasized so much on this program because a lot of people are, you know, it's a two-hour movie. All you have to do is worry about, you know, the short things. No, we're looking long-term. In fact, as you know, we look long-term beyond the war. But with regard to operations, if you really are serious about warfare, logistics is something you have to seriously look at. And, again, the 510 program helps dramatically. The other thing is stockpiling and inventorying now anything and everything you can. Let me give you an example. Let's make a bunch of yard sales this weekend. You know what I do if they have a bag sale? Everything OD green, everything gray, everything brown, everything tan. It gets rolled up. I don't care what size it is. It gets put away. Now everybody goes gray. Well, yeah, actually there's a reason for that. I have, you know, a number of different colors that are, you know, literally separated and itemized. This is a good way to actually, if you don't have uniforms, this is a good way to ID units. The tactical colors are acceptable, but the grays, for instance, will all be piled together. There are gray uniforms, gray blue and gray uniforms that are out there that we've stockpiled up. Well, more gray material to support and keep it in that shade range. It's not going to be a hodgepodge of a little bit of this and some of that if we can help it. The same with routing camouflage. I'll dispense with my own camouflage and hand it off to somebody else if it looks like it makes more sense that we're stockpiling and replenishing or outfitting a unit to make it consistent so that it is friend-fo identifiable. But one of the things you can do with this, especially with yard sales, by picking up all the tactical colors, you've got subdued colors. They're natural. They're stuff that's already out there available, cheap, like $1 for as much as you can stuff in a bag, or $2 for which you can stuff in a bag. Well, if you roll everything up real tight, you get really good at that. And you stuff that bag so it's bulging all the way to the top and overflowing at the top. you'll get your money's worth and the other thing is you're outfitting a whole lot of people with the backup or supplementary clothing they're going to need because people are going to wear stuff out. The other problem is a lot of even with the logistics we have, our core people, our core 5-10 programs are going to create a very, uh, stacked and squared away fighting unit. But we're going to end up with more people than that showing up. Plus, no matter how we look at it, attrition dictates we are going to start running out of material. It's going to happen. We're going to lose certain technologies. People are going to get, people are lost in combat. Equipment is lost. Materials burned. Materials destroyed. You have to abandon it. You need to start thinking ahead beyond that now. I mentioned compasses. It's like I said, I'd rather that you, right off the bat for your 510 program, go to dealextreme.com, look at the really cheap button compasses they have. They're about an inch or an inch and a half wide. You can get a whole slurry of them for $2. It's $16, $18, $20, whatever it is. We'll buy a couple of those packets and put them away. Because that way you have replacements. It's not an inside a compass. Nope, it's not, but it's something to work with. The other thing is we want to do more than just issue a compass out to the fire team leader and the squad leader. They'll get the better compasses if they're the orienteering slash the management people, right? But again, you're issuing out to key personnel only because you're short. Now if you can make sure that everybody has a similar tool, if the individuals are separated or if something happens to the primary tool, you have backups. For as lightweight as they are, they are priceless nonetheless. Another thing about the backpacks is add-on bags. Remember I've talked about this. You want to see what is a more realistic scenario of how things work. Take a look at the airborne troops at the Battle of the Bulge. It's probably a better representation. None of the pose things or anybody where they are all squared away and just going into battle. take a look at the guys who have been there and are stuck there. Any time they can carry more, they've got more. Any time they can grab something they can put over their shoulder that's an add-on, they'll do it. Now, are they going to necessarily carry that through the whole of the war? Probably not. A lot of the stuff they're picking up is going to be expended even that day. While you look that way, as you are looking at that picture, understand that most of what they're carrying is going to be gone by the end of the day. the consumption of the battlefield. But the idea behind this is, wherever they can tag on more, they do. Most important is obviously and always, ordnance, material, things that go boom in the night and during the day, flares, pyrotechnics, anti-tank weapons, enemy's weapons, anything like that. You need to be thinking about right now as we can, again we'll run out of these two, our utility bags you can actually have for deployment for stripping or for improvising in the field like this. Now I know you're going to take off the enemy's corpses, whatever they've got, we understand that, that's a given. But in some cases you're going to be sharing out stuff, so one guy's going to get the goodie bag and the other one's going to have to, you know, everybody else divides up what's in the case over there. And the case is a cool thing because it's all full of solid and full of 40 millimeter grenades, anti-personnel mines, laws rockets, viper rockets, you know, RPG rocket variants, whatever kind they're throw away. It could be in a number of different things. You're going to divvy them up. Now, the nice thing about the disposable rockets is they all have typically their own carry strap, they're compartmentalized in their own pods, you don't have to worry about that. But for the other items, you need to be thinking ahead to the fact that you're going to be stripping the corpse and you'll probably be divvying it up so everybody at least gets a couple of something each. If you're lucky and nobody else is around, you get to be gluttonous and you can carry as much as you want and have all of it for yourself. But have you ever checked the weight of a grenade? Oh, Mark, you're making me think, no, they're not made out of aluminum. Well, some are made out of pot metal or sheet metal. But I hate to tell you, everyone you add is so many more ounces or a pound of material that you're going to have to carry. The conversation in the article that I referred to that's in Henry's page there is why you need to go back there and it discusses weight restrictions. If you do carry more, you're going to have to suffer a little more. But if it's grenades, ammunition, pyrotechnics, again, once you use it and lose it, it's off the scale. It's gone. You'll wish there was more, and then wish to suffer more, because you find out, hmm, grenades are good. Grenades are my friend. So that's where you'll probably start to do math formulas and start to juggle your weight, your combat weight around, your combat load. And that is a personal decision. There's another reason I say that. I could dictate and say, everybody in the militia, I could try this, it wouldn't work anyway. But you know, let's say that somebody said, well, and they've done this before, and goofiness, you will all get an AR-15, and nothing but an AR-15. Oh, Patu. Number one, some people just can't afford it, as we pointed out. I'd rather have you show up with a weapon and be armed than be still bare butt naked, and when the shooting starts, well, I couldn't afford anything, so I can shout harsh language. I hope you got a gun to issue me. Instead, it's whatever they can work with. Also, it's ergonomics. Different people have different ideas of what they think they should be carrying or what they have performed with. One of the things we've talked about are veterans. Now, there's going to be a shift here for the old, old veterans because they're starting to move towards the AR-15s because they realize no felt recoil really comfortable. But typically, all of us gravitate towards weapons we were trained with. Now a lot of us are in the transition or overlap, so we actually have a lot of other junk we've carried, so we can pretty well carry everything and anything. But even there, if I had an M14 laying here on the ground next to me, and I had a chance to take all the goodies that go with it, and a bad guy was laying there dead, I'd take the M14. I'd have to take that. If I was carrying an M16, or even an SKS, I'd sling the SKS. I wouldn't get rid of it. But that M14 would be going with me. Why? Because I'm completely familiar with that weapon. My mind was conditioned and disciplined to that weapon. So I have a great deal of experience that I should take advantage of. Now in more modern times and one of the reasons even now it's like yeah people like the m14 but most of the young soldiers are M16 oriented I don't really have a problem with that some of them will stick with the m16 others will decide that as they've seen in the past it may not perform as well as they prefer or in other words doesn't give them the type of performance they want and they for their shooting ability So they're gonna change out to something else Some people are going to drop down to less sophisticated weapons still simply because they don't like the M16, they don't like the M14. This is where combined arms processes are developed and where people naturally gravitate to what they're capable of. In World War II, while the units may have had standard SOPs, you know, a table of authorized equipment, okay, an SOP for who was carrying what, once in the field, people gravitated toward particular weapons. A lot of guys tried the carbine, didn't necessarily like it. Others for their size and stature loved the carbine, carried it through the whole war, it kept him alive. One or two of them got medals of honor for carrying a carbine. Audie Murphy preferred the M1 carbine. Doesn't mean he didn't know how to use the Grand, he did. He was trained with that, but when the carbine became available, he was a little smaller guy, he was typically carrying the carbine and enjoyed again being able to hit because he could focus again for the felt recoil, comfort of the shooter, his niche in terms of how he performed. It worked. Other men like to carry that god-awful beast, the Thompson. Now when I say that, I mean it's like, guys, have you ever checked to see what the weight of a Thompson is? Remember, you can't have some coolie carrying it for you until you get to shoot it. So if you do pick up the Thompson, the balance is, man, you hit somebody with several .45 ACP rounds and typically they do stay down. And if you need a lot of firepower, it'll dump a lot of bullets down range. So, everybody gravitated towards weapons of preference. Some men love the BAR. We had BARs when I was with the 1SF group. We had two BARs. Once somebody fired it, you couldn't get it out of their hands. In fact, that became their baby. And it was the weapon that would be pulled out of the inventory whenever they were in the field. But Mark, that's a beast of a weapon! Yeah, it was. But once you find out what you can do with the BAR and how it performs and the fact that not it'll do what the grand will do at the same ranges but if you need select fire it'll do what the grand will do but it'll do it in three and five round bursts. Ooooh, yeah that's kinda nice. So anyway, again, it did the job. Some people preferred it, others thought it was a punishment to be put on the BAR or be put on the hog or whatever. No, it was just that it was your turn, congratulations, live with it. Because again, with a lot of the crew served weapons, you would rotate over to those guns so that, again, the individual would get a break, physically. There's intelligence especially when moving that. That's why everybody needs to be cross-referenced with the weapons that are in your inventory. Now, one of the other reasons I would never say, you know, buy this and buy this only, what I've explained a million times, if we were all on one caliber and one type of weapon, how long would it take for your enemy to focus on a particular issue, a particular weapon system, a particular ammunition, and you would be out of business? Oh, yes. See, that's why Mr. Shotgun's kind of nice and that 7.62x54R nagot and that AR-15 and the AK-74s. In reality, whatever we run into out there, our toolbox allows us to use whatever comes at us from the other direction. We can put it into service or we can direct it into service so we can continue to operate. We either, you know, in personal preference, operate with their weapon systems, use them against them along with the ones we've already collected or we can route that technology to provide resources to a particular formation or unit that is standardized on that equipment. There's a number of different ways that can be done. I actually prefer the later where we actually route it towards and create units that are standardized completely on the aggressor's weapons if need be. It allows us to simplify logistics in that respect. They still have the experience and the other weapons are at their discretion to use, but the idea behind this is that again, because it's not just going to be 2-2-3 ammunition out there, guys. Remember that? Well, you mean, Mark, we're going to give us one unit all them 16th? No, no. You're going to see still a wide variety of weapons in service and if you don't think so, take a look at what we're seeing in Africa right now. You have SCAR .308 rifles being carried by third-rate military forces. Anybody notice the pictures from that mall shooting? I pointed this out a couple times. What's the price of a SCAR rifle? Isn't that supposed to be as you know, it's not a semi It's a select fire rifle that they're there that they've pushed on these guys. Okay, but you'll also see oh, wait a minute What's the rest of the army carrying HK 91s Oh and AR 15s once again, we're seeing a hodgepodge But there are a lot of HK 91s in most every one of those pictures and I've been counting guys So don't be surprised to be facing off against the equivalent to those PTR 91s and HK knockoffs you guys already own Don't think that that weapon is obsolete or that that weapon is missing from the battlefield. It just may not be as dominant for the moment. Go ahead meteor, we got you. I just wanted to point out that the number one way to eliminate counter, you know, the insurgency is to starve them off of their supply. Right. And that, you know, and I think that people need to understand that. And as an insurgent, your number one role is to survive. That's how you win. So I just, two things I wanted to quickly find out that, you know, when you talk about these weapons systems, you know, you don't have to have the, you know, the greatest and grandest, you know, thing, you know, especially when you come to these The odd calipers, you know, is a 5.7. I think it's great if you have, you know, one of those guns. But at the end of the day, surviving, it means you have a greater chance of winning as the insurgents. When we're trying to get rid of insurgents, we starve them off of supplies. The key mission you're dealing with. That's one of the reasons I pointed out dispersion of the material and deep supply. This is why you go to the yard sales, take a look at water containers. I'll give you an example. I just went to a yard sale today. I got about 10 free water containers. Now these are those drink bottles that are really well made. One of them is in kind of an aqua color. The rest are actually just black cap or brown cap with a clear container. What's going to happen with the 510 program is somebody's going to show up and two of those are going to be their canteens at least, maybe four. The reason? I've got containers that will carry those. I should say pouches that will carry those. And I can stuff them somewhere and I'm not going to cry about it. And if I lose them, I'm not going to cry about it. And if I have to hand them out and give them away, I'm not going to cry about it. Clothing the same way. OD green, like I said, gray, brown, even any black clothing you run into. Anything that is subdued in any way at the yard sales, you should grab it all. Might have some goofy writing on it. Might have some print on the t-shirt. Who cares? You know, if all else fails with those t-shirts and anything else like that, turn them inside out. But the seams will be out where people can see them. Really? It's a t-shirt. Is anybody going to see that? Is anybody going to care? Oh my god! He's wearing his t-shirt inside out. Oh, that's so funny! Yeah, you're dead. Bye bye. Pop, pop, pop, pop. I guess it wasn't so funny after all, was it, fool? See how that works? So again guys, remember this will give you the material that you need to keep the troops in the field that can be dispersed. That's the other part about these 510 programs. By having a 510 program establishment across the whole of this country, we have a first tier, tactically dispersed and cashed logistics system. That's one of the reasons I've been harping on this for years and if you'll notice guys any place I make a comment I intentionally, you know, you know Establish a 510 program in your AO and then hopefully somebody's gonna wonder what the hell is a 510 program then I put logistics, you know more is better Then there that's the that's the whole point and meteor again like you said the idea even in conventional forces the the objective is the same and The idea is to push the other side off of their logistics train and then consume, force them to consume and then debilitate. And that's what Washington had to deal with, the American Revolution. His retreating campaign, most people don't realize that most of the leapfrog operations by both sides was to try and destroy or capture the other side's supply train. That was the campaign in the jerseys. That was the campaign before Valley Forge. In many cases it wasn't necessarily to get away from someone. It was to try and move ahead of the British Army and get to their supply point. And in fact it became a way to force the British commanders to move other than originally hoped if they were going to cut off and destroy American forces. If you could create the impression that you were going after their supply train, their supply depots, well, the last thing they want to see is an armed and refreshed, you know, militia force. So that immediately they would respond or they would start to react accordingly based upon the perceived threat, which then bought Washington time and allowed him to move to his next position. In reverse order, more than a few times, the British did the exact same thing. As I pointed out, the other thing about being in charge of logistics is that you have to be prepared to move. I'd rather have 5,000 of those little golf caddies moving equipment than leave piles of stuff behind for the enemy to capture or have to burn it. That's why logistics, when it comes to operations and movement, you have to be thinking tactical palatization. We've got to be able to get this stuff moved away from the threat in the event something does transpire or at least a percentage of it. In one action during the American Revolution we lost 10,000 shovels. Now when everybody reads that they kind of laugh. It's like ha what would 10,000 shovels? What does that what difference does that make? Well, let me ask you something about those cool oil paintings guys you hear about fortifications being dug and you hear about ramparts being built and they talk about forts being constructed Do you see any d12 bulldozers or backhoes and any of those oil paintings? anyone Nope, you don't see George Washington, the rotund there, they show you the pictures of the revolution. You don't see a caterpillar bulldozer in the background with the troops nonchalantly leaning against it, a guy on horseback standing next to it. You know why? That shovel and those 10,000 shovels were that D12 bulldozer using Armstrong. And when those shovels were lost, a significant tool was lost that's critical to our engineer and saper operations. So that was a major blow because again, well, you ever tried digging with your hands? You know what the soil composition is of the pieces of real estate they were traveling through? Ever tried to dig a fighting position with a pie plate? Yeah, see it's very different. So those shovels were incredibly critical and they were lost along with wagon trains of food, pallets or storehouses full of other, you know, ordinance, material, tentage, etc. This is why even overhead cover slash tentage is so critical and why you need to be thinking overlapping technologies or immediately start to think about improvising, adapting, and overcoming. PVC pipe Canvas or tarps, a little bit of ingenuity. You can make a whole lot of quick quants at huts without spending a whole lot of money in the process. But again, also a way to get your equipment out of the weather, your casualties out of the weather. That in and of itself, the buildings are going to be a priority. Imperials work today just like they did against the Irish and the Scotch. With both the Irish and the Scotch, the policy of the British occupation forces was burn housing, destroy forests, do a little research on the battles in Ireland and the actual campaign that took place to destroy the forests of Ireland. Many parts of Ireland to this day still have not fully or even come close to recuperating from those campaigns. And why did they do it? To deny natural resources. So don't think it's anything new, like when you hear about Agent Orange, how about just taking the British Army and chopping down whole forests for the sake of cutting them down to eliminate the places where people could hide. So if we think that Agent Orange was something new, it wasn't at all. Although in reality, while they said it was a defoliant, in reality they were dumping a chemical weapon on a population, which everybody understands. Anyway, with regard to the backpacks, again, excellent article and it will give you an idea about a combination of issues. Remember, if you increase weight, you reduce speed. If you reduce speed, you of course reduce range and time. The formula works that if you reduce speed, you increase the amount of time, obviously, that it takes to cover the same distance. This is where, again, improvising and using other tools. Now here is one that most people really don't want to think about. However, there's a lot of populations that came up with some really cool ideas. To recoup or to rest or refresh, polling is another solution. Everybody goes, polling? Well, let's say that you do have those 80-pound rucksacks. In fact, the historian is talking about the British troops and how they organize their kit and what the weight is. Any army is pretty much the same way. The Brits are really good at what they do, so is everybody else. If you take four man's backpacks using a pole, literally a pole, hanging the backpacks from the pole, lashing them so they don't bounce and wobble. Take two men, give them the assignment of carrying the poles, while the other two men who normally would have a backpack do not. Do you know what you change in the way of transport formula? Now let me give you a little hint here, real quick here by the way. A lot of people hear about the nung in Vietnam. When the Chinese communists were being given all the material and support they could from the Russians, the communists, and also from the US government, it turns out that this whole population didn't want to be involved in communism. Communism in China, just like people in Russia, felt the same way when Trotsky and Lenin gassed people there. In China, the Nung decided as a people to leave. They were part of the southern Chinese governments and different elements that were fighting the war to begin with. But they literally took the entire population and using the polling system, they moved non-stop 24 hours a day. Now if you aren't familiar with that, look it up. Now the way they did this is three individuals were on every poll kit. For eight hours, two men would be walking. One man would then pull himself out of the little hanger sacs slash the mobile havosacs that they made for all their gear. He would pick up one end of the full front or rear, probably the front because he was fresh, and then the person who was in the front would get up into the haver sac with all the gear and they would be carrying him, or women would be carrying the women. Children would be doing the same thing. In the process, every eight hours, somebody was laying down and being carried while the other two were, of course, doing the carrying. Plus carrying food, other equipment, and whatever other weapons they had on hand, they moved as a people this way. Everybody goes, what? Yes, they moved as a people this way. So, just consider that if you're to take the same concept that we're talking about and apply it to infantry movement to try and gain speed and time. Speed means closing the distance and being where you want to be when you need to be. It can also be retreat, or in other words, withdrawing from a contact. If we're talking about being unconventional or paraconventional forces, it isn't just making contact. Extracting yourself is just as critical. It's called ex-filtrating from an area or ex-filtration from contact. When you're breaking contact, you may still be under fire, but progressively you're going to want to make speed. Now, the one term that we use in our groups is when we talk about star shelling. In other words, once you break contact, everybody goes their own way and may have a predetermined route. There's a rally point that either part of the unit or several rally points that different elements of the unit would meet up at. Those elements, once they're together, continue to move down a random path that they choose based upon the threat. They exfiltrate out of the area completely. And then a final rendezvous point is established, or was already established, where everybody meets up, and then you reorganize for the next action. There's a number of different ways this can be done, but again, time, you know, speed is the key. Now, are you going to drop equipment or abandon equipment or leave equipment behind? Well, not if you can help it. So the important thing is to come up with solutions that allow you to expedite that exfiltration, to put distance between you and the epicenter of the event. Just like when Scott Woodring was attacked here in Michigan, when he was attacked and they thought for sure they were burning him to death in his house. They were all dancing around the house, high-fiving each other, chuckling up, laughing up, and they were sure they were murdering him and burning him to death as a satanic sacrifice. All those little devil-worshipping pigs from the state police were laughing it up. They had a bulldozer, actually a bucket, that they used to push the building into itself to burn more. They had the fire trucks that they held off. They didn't fight the fire. The fire trucks were literally 100 yards away from where the fire was started by the state pigs. Afterwards, then they were all yucking it up and laughing and they all came in in a big group and they're all standing around the wreckage watching as bucket after bucket after bucket of debris is pulled out, thinking that any minute they're going to get to see the charred and tattered remains of Scott Woodring. This is all on film and I have no I have no respect for these pieces of filth I see pigs these swine and the SRT we know exactly what kind of punks they are okay, and they're all yuck in it up and They find you know what the other two things that are really missing from this whole process number one no weapons Food and radio equipment and household goods, etc. Oh, and the family dog was killed. He wasn't taken along when Scott left. But in the process, while they were staring at the hole, Scott was actually in motion. Now what he should have done, just kept pointing himself away from the epicenter of the event. The problem is that he made contact with somebody within the next 48 hours and he was betrayed. Had he not made contact with anyone, Had he followed basic SOP with regard to exfiltration he had his backpack. He had his personal weapons. It was summertime people. So it's purely a matter of and he had Scout and Pathfinder experience. He knew how to stay in the woods. So there was no need to make contact with anybody. There was no need to in fact get to you know, come get in anywhere near civilization. Period. So I can't emphasize enough that when you're exfiltrating, remember, don't worry about making contact. Have confidence in your people all doing their job. Expect everybody to. Follow operational security procedures when going to rally points. Follow tactical operational procedure. Once you've passed that rally point, move down to the next or moving on to the next objective, again, OPSEC, Operational Security. Basic rules about movement, basic rules that are not going to be broken. If you do this, you will survive the mission. You will accomplish the task. You will fight another day. Okay? Now the important thing about the Scott Woodring case, the ring I bring it up, they spent hours until darkness staring at a hole where there wasn't anyone. The entire SRT is on film standing there and they're old, they're leaning on boards and they're watching the pit and they're thinking any minute they're going to gloat over a corpse. Any minute they're going to laugh about a body. They're laughing at first, they're chuckling at first, they're ha ha ha and they're having pop or maybe it's a beer. Can't tell for sure. I think they're boozing it up. So anyway, as it progresses, they're getting quieter. And then they put guys down in the hole. Then he realized there's nobody there. Now guys, if you had followed, if Scott had followed, standard SOP, how fast can you travel? Now there's a discussion about this in this article I'm referring to. How fast can you travel with a light combat load in one hour? How many hours did they stare at the hole in the ground and do absolutely nothing but pick their nose, scratch their arse, and pat each other on the rump and fondle each other's private parts, thinking they were going to look at a corpse? Which means each of those hours would have meant that there would have been tens of miles, and then tens and tens of miles, and then hundreds of square miles of additional pieces of real estate they'd had to search. with no clear definition of his direction. And if your policy were to be to just point yourself in one direction, take advantage of terrain and always undercover. Do not expose yourself. Do not get near anybody. Don't try to in any way, shape or form think that you're safe walking out amongst the population. Use terrain and use all cover that you can. Concealment wherever you can. By doing this, traveling at your discretion, minimizing any kind of contact, don't cross roads if you don't have to, but if you do, as quickly as possible, and again, only after confirming that you have limited visibility and control over that situation. What I mean by that is, again, typically corners are a better choice than flat pieces of real estate. At night, if vehicles are moving, pay attention to lighting. Remember that if you can observe an area and watch a car pass through an area, watch where the car, watch in front of the car to observe, to see if there's any vehicles or any other equipment in the area of operation. That's one of the ways to confirm whether or not it's being observed. If you use a corner, the advantage is you only have one direction that can be directly observed. The other bend in the road, while it certainly would be, again, so many feet, so many half-mile, whatever, before the next corner, or again for the distance of observable range, remember guys that it would still be very difficult for anybody to come upon you or set upon you from that direction. Very simple, very straightforward. Who do we have? Yes, Mark, whatever it became of Scott. He was shot. He was killed by the state police at the location where he was betrayed. Yeah, they don't want him to have him to be in court. You can bet on that. Well, the thing is that he went to make contact with the ex-wife of the brigade commander for his militia unit. And she and the rat that was with her called the state police and turned him in for a whopping $20,000. But after that happened everybody knew what had transpired and so her Harry Hindin had to leave the area completely because nobody had any use for the piece of trash and everybody knew what she'd done. The other thing about this is local state police. Now you got to understand something that supposedly a state police officer was killed in that incident. He was. He was a whistleblower that had been brought up from the Detroit area because he was involved in a case with a number of potentates that were involved in chicanery in the state police and with the state of Michigan. He was put up there while the court case was in progress and he was supposed to be a witness. The SRT was brought in and because he was one of the local cops, he was the one that was used to go onto the property. He was shot by the SRT or in other words assassinated by the SRT. He wasn't shot by Scott. Scott was on, when the incident took place, Scott was on the radio in the middle of the house talking to the brigade commander because the state police had gone over to the brigade commander's house and demanded to use the radio, etc., etc. In other words, they weren't just operational at one location when they did that. However, the problem they have with that is that Scott was on the radio, everybody at the other end could hear this, to include the brigade commander and other witnesses. He was not outside or anywhere near the outside of the building when the state police officer was shot, who was shot at very close range. Now all the local state police that worked up there said that they all know this. They all know that the SRT did this. And several even came forward and acknowledged that yes, this is what happened. So even the state police, there are people that are, you know, again, Michigan State Police isn't all dirty, but there's a whole bunch of people that are trying to, you know, again, keep their job. But the local sheriffs, deputies, and local police, etc., all know what happened. with that case. And what it comes down to is they learned that this guy was a straight, you know, the kid that was up there that was killed, was a straight arrow, he was actually trying to do his job, but the politicos, the hacks and the bureaucrats, of course, well, the whores that were in the SRT, their job was to get rid of that very inconvenient individual. So they took the opportunity and did it. And then Scott, of course, did us get... Well Scott escaped this is this is what I'm pointing out Scott did everything right I mean number one nobody had a clue where the hell he was I'm gonna emphasize guys you're in if you're an escape innovation mode, you know everybody goes well You're told the movies boy. It's just amazing how they can follow you anywhere You're out of sight you go to blood you're running two blocks ahead of him and that that guy who's chasing the guy who's being you know, he was chasing, you know being chased He he can't be seen but the guy has miracle telepathy and telepathy and just happens to make all the corners and turns even though the guy's two blocks ahead of him Now, again, in reality the way it works is like this. If you pass through a door, shut it. If you make right angles, how are they going to see you? Now, if you're smart, again, you keep moving. You change stuff out. But if you're in the country, as I pointed out, take advantage of all covering concealment. Mostly, again, concealment, obviously, because you don't want to be seen. If you can't be seen, you're not going to be found. They stared at the wreckage site, burning the place down, and were all laughing about it. Then they stared at the wreckage site, in other words, his home, while they tore it apart to find his body. Now again, for every hour that they wasted there, and everybody else was laughing and giving thumbs up, all the state pigs that were from out of the area, the SRT, they were all yucking it up. There's film of that we've got too. The thing is that while they were doing that, he was completely alive, functional, and could have again survived the incident completely. It would have been one of those situations where they would have known what to do. So again, don't make contact with anybody.