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As Iowoki vanished in the mist for whence he came, his words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch him tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave is this still the land of the free and good afternoon ladies and gentlemen This is the second hour of the afternoon intelligence report. I'm our kirky Carolina. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to us on Liberty Tree Radio dot 4mg dot com, around AM and FM Microstations, CB Base Stations, and Ultra Net Technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska. We are in the Hallmark Network on the eastern seaboard from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida, from the bottom of Florida across the arc of the Gulf of Mexico. Headed Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Big Jungle, Nebraska, a whole bunch of Wyoming to include both Fifth and Fifth. and our friends in the Civil War state of Colorado waving the left coast where fine sanism vomits its spew its stench across the landscape we turn back to the east sweep across the plains over the Mississippi and land in the smokey slash the Blue Ridge where the restaurant crews, grammar teams, okay teams and mob-el grammar consortium bring us the golden spike. Joe it's blue it's been semi-cloudy here what's it like in your neck of the woods and what's the date today sir? Well we are currently sitting on September 24th, and right now it's 73 degrees here in Balmy Zone 8A in the southeastern United States. And it is Communications Tuesday however, as Don pointed out and with the other issues that are going on, guys, logistics. If you're going to go into any kind of situation, James Wesley Rawls, of course, one of his pieces was posted on From the Trenches World Report. Very well done by James. Be prepared to hunker down. Well, in reality, if we're all better prepared in general, anybody you can get to do something. They need to be in motion now. In between what I do here every time I go outside, I've got stuff all over the property I have to do. I just cleared out a row that had all of our peppers and it cleared out all of the weeds and stuff. That goes to the goats, doesn't go to waste. Everything we pull out of the garden that's junk goes to the critter. That keeps it, you know, nibbled down and it puts it to use in some way. In the process the goat also keeps other things nibbled down so we got a better view of things when the time comes. But Logistics. We're going to end up in a shooting war, but we're also going to end up with life as usual, so to speak, in that, well, the 24-hour day, you know, is still in place and will be and continue to be in place pretty much for as long as you're on this planet. That means we still have to eat. We still have to keep people clothed. We've got to keep the lights or some kind of lighting on. We've got to keep people warm, happy, and fed to a degree in some way, so we need the logistics training in place. Joe, you've talked about permaculture and again guys, other ideas, ways or techniques that we can put food production online. Give everybody an overview here. We already do a lot of what's been done in the past and we experiment constantly. Permaculture, explain the premise and how we can develop our skills. So basically guys, you know, I'm talking to you as if you've never heard of permaculture before. You may have heard me talking back in late May on some of the Quartermaster Corner programs about permaculture, but if you've never heard about it before, let me tell you who I am and sort of what my credentials are. My name's Joe. I live in North Carolina. I've taken two 72-hour permaculture design courses. I have a permaculture design certificate from Jeff Lawton. And I've also taken an Earthworks workshop from a guy named Paul Wheaton. Now, if you've never heard of permaculture, you're like, what does all that mean? Okay, permaculture is really simple. What we do in permaculture is we look at how to make our agricultural systems permanent. Very simple. But beyond that, we want to make our living environment permanent as well. So we don't have a lot of things coming in from the outside. Not only in terms of food, but in terms of energy. And in permaculture, we see water as a form of energy. We see the sun as a form of energy. And this isn't woo woo stuff, guys. I mean, I'm talking about how do we heat a house in the wintertime in Michigan without an HVAC system and be able to live comfortably. How do we water our crop in a drought without having any wells? Okay, so this is the kind of stuff that permaculture encompasses. In addition to that, permanent agriculture also considers people. we are also part of the landscape and how are we going to organize ourselves and my involvement uh... in interest in the militia it sort of contributing this component to all of you guys that are listening to me you guys are a permanent component whether mark there or not whether it there or not whether i'm there or not each and every one of you have the ability to create your own system wherever you are So we're looking at permanence. And the way that we can benefit from this is by thinking about one concept. And if you've already figured out from listening to me, permaculture is a little conceptual. So maybe think about how I'm talking right now to you sort of the same way that Don does. It's going to be a little conceptual. It's going to be a little in your head. We're looking for permanence. in everything that we do. We want to put a lot of work in, but when we put work into something that we do, we want to think about it before we do it. We do not want to waste our physical energy. Maybe we're busy looking out for the enemy. Maybe we're busy looking out for weeds that we need to take out of the ground. Maybe we're busy looking out for pests that are going to screw up our harvest. So a concept in permaculture is your yield And whatever you're trying to get, your yield is really only limited by your imagination. Okay? Now that sounds like a pretty far out there concept. But if you think about it, in conventional agriculture, let's take a field of corn. In that field of corn, you know, you're going to plant those corn plants approximately 12 inches away from each other. You're going to plant them in rows that are 24 inches away from each other. You may have several acres of that corn field there. So we call that a monoculture, one culture. There's one crop of corn. And all the farmers out there are going to be like, yeah, so? Okay. If I wasn't using machinery because I didn't have gasoline available or diesel fuel available, when the time comes, I wouldn't just want to use all that space for corn. Maybe I'd also want to plant In addition to corn, I'd want to plant beans, squash, and sunflowers in that same place. And I'd get how much more yield out of that same spot of land. And each of those crops we could use for our benefit. And they would extract different minerals from the earth and be able to, those plants would be able to work together in a way that would support each other and not take away nutrients from each other. So that's the general concept of permaculture and how we can benefit from it. Questions, comments? Well again, the idea here is that we present ideas, but there are still other processes. People have different material resources. Maybe they look at it from a little different angle and say, hey, I can modify this. And for someone to say that you're fixed and rigid in the solution, that's not the case, guys. How we develop skills or relearn things is a matter of each individual's perception and plugging in and experimenting. We need to see experimentation, especially in food production. I would point something out that you would think something as simple as concrete couldn't be lost. Here's an example. Do you know that the Romans had concrete? Did you know that the formula for concrete was lost for virtually hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years? Do you know that Portland Cement is a reinvention of and it was a stupid simple formula and Yet for hundreds of years everybody was scratching their arse and didn't have a clue about how cement was made Sounds strange look at the history of Portland cement. You'll find out what I'm talking about now. You would think that's a given wall I'm everybody knows about some well now we're talking food production here. It is your 2013 In America in 1930, well, 1929, was a lot closer to the soil and was a lot more cognizant of the reality of how things work in agriculture. Do you believe or even think that the numbers are there today that were there in 1929? We were a whole hell of a lot closer to the you know again What were the percentage of farmers in the United States how many people were in agriculture as opposed to industry now? Here's the thing about that that number is kind of you know a gimmick to only in that Many people who are farmers had a lot more time than the average bear once the crops are in guys They were generalists so in many cases they were small manufacturers. They were production. You know an industry people and They just, people don't talk about that. They had other trades that they overlapped into at their pleasure because of the available time that they had and how it may have related to what they were doing. With developing our food production and selecting the way we're going to engineer it, it's for local production as much as anything. We're not planning on shipping this food across the planet. We're lucky talking about being able to create a comfortable lifestyle within our communities first. If we don't do that, the rest isn't relevant. Doesn't mean we can't do what we've always done, which is eventually be shipping more out. But right now, we're on the low end. We're on the dead end of production. There's so much fallow ground that could be producing right now. There's so much food that is truly available while we're being told that America's hungry or starving, only because of incompetence and intentional failure. Because that's the only way you can do all of this that we're seeing right now. There is nothing. We've spent how many trillions of dollars on every aspect? Department of Agriculture, the Department of Education, read that. Failure number one, failure number two, failure, you can write down the list. The word failure is attached to all of these massive money boondoggles. And while they were supposed to produce, in reality, they have not. So the solution, well, Joe, that's what you're here for. So go ahead and please jump in there. You betcha. So, you know, in terms of the solution, you know, my view, I guess my bent here, is that permanent agriculture is the solution because we're so locked up in sort of annual agriculture, you know, we're going to shove a lot of minerals and chemicals into the soil and get out of it a certain amount of food and distribute that all over the world. Well, if that distribution system, guys, is gone, When the time comes, you're going to be eating whatever you have in storage, whatever you can grow in your backyard, maybe some MREs that you pull off of the bums, as Mark would say, the black uniform moose, or maybe your shoe leather. So it's really important to do some thinking along these lines now while you still have resources available. I'll give you a good example. When I was consulted for an Earthworks course out in California, the land itself was completely desert wasteland. It did have some eucalyptus, it had some different scrub oaks, but it was pretty much sand and silt for the most part. And what we were able to do using excavators, we used a 13 ton trackhoe, we also used a bulldozer, We are able to put a pond in, connect that pond to capture runoff from the road, the water runoff from the road, so we can naturally fill that pond using the contours of the dam. We then took that pond and shot a laser level out and dug what we would call a finger, so a diversion drain. So once that pond fills up with water from the rain, even if it's a 100 or 500 year flood event, We know exactly where that water is going to go. So that water is going to go out along that compacted finger, that drainage ditch, and then we could divert that into a secondary pond. Right off the road, we are using the first pond as an organic filtration system because that water, we assume, will be toxic from whatever runs off the road. We don't want that to irrigate our crops until it's filtered, and we don't want to drink it until it's filtered. After that, we can have what's called a gabion, which is a large pile or collection of rocks that the water will then go through and over the course of time as it floods over, even in 100 or 500 year flood events, the gabion, that big collection of rocks and boulders will act as a secondary filtration system. Using the contours of land we will then pull that into a secondary pond or dam and around that area we can plant all kinds of things. Now most of the time when we're talking about permanent systems, We're talking about perennial crops. Those of you that are gardeners know what I'm talking about. Those of you that are not, here's what I'm saying. Perennial means every year. You don't have to plant every year, it just comes back every year. You only plant it once. So you can walk away from the site, and if you've designed your waterworks and your earthworks correctly, it will water itself. And as long as you plant or seed the appropriate crops in the barren soil, once you get your earthworks correct, you won't have to worry about the weeds. So you could grow trees, fruit trees, nut trees, nitrogen fixing trees, and you won't have to do anything. You just have to wait for the rain to come. And maybe once or twice a year you go in there with a machete and hack those nitrogen fixing trees like the mimosa, uh... it you know the chinese so trade you know you uh... albany julie breakfast you could just pack that down uh... many branches let it fall down on the ground and uh... that will that nitrogen will lead to the soil and all of your perennial crop like uh... potatoes or jerusalem artichokes in a sun chokes uh... any of your perennial crops uh... asparagus that that will actually bring nutrients into the soil And that's one day or two days of really hard work, depending on how much scale we're talking about. So in this small example that I'm talking about in California, you know, I can squeeze in to the span of like one or two or three acres all kinds of food and all kinds of medicinal herbs because we're seeding things and we're planting trees with intention because we know we're going to need it. Anybody out there that's an engineer, this is right up your alley. The natural world is right for civil engineering as long as you understand the process of hydrology generally and being able to see plants as something that we could benefit from given what's going into them. You can do this on any terrain. There was a question I believe a week or two ago about possibly building dams or ponds in Texas. And one of my comments then was, well, I think the comment was, well, you wouldn't be able to build a dam, you know, in this kind of climate, you know, because of how dry and how hot it is. And to some extent that's true. However, the deeper you go in the earth, so if I had a 35 ton excavator, the deeper I could go with that excavator, that just gives me more water capture, and the temperature of that water would then equalize because of how deep we were actually digging. And we actually would not see that level of evaporation, because in your dry land landscape, we would want to bring in a lot of shade trees around that area. Or we could bring in bamboo, which has many uses, when the time comes. So that way you're shading in your area and you're not losing all that water to evaporation when you're not in your rainy season. So those are a couple examples of how we can really benefit if we just sort of think about the interaction between all these different components of growing food and living on the land. And for all you suburban or urbanites out there, you know, who have a, maybe a half an acre or less, think about it this way. You know, you guys out there, you've got it easy. And you say, well, wait a minute, I've got it tough. And what's he talking about? I mean, I've got limited sun. I've got bad soil. OK, but you've got a narrow focus of land. These principles will work exactly for you. The important thing for you guys is to observe your land. Observe what it is that's going on on your land. Where do the birds come from? Where do the winds come from? Where does water pile up? Where doesn't water pile up? and decide where you're going to put things to make it most convenient for you to harvest. And one of the founders of permaculture, a guy, this is Australian, this guy was a real outback, kind of feral guy, and his name is Bill Mollison, M-O-L-L-I-S-O-N. And he said that all permaculture really starts at your back door, no matter how much land you have. uh... you should be able to in the morning uh... wake up go out your back door in your slippers uh... go harvest some uh... some herbs without going too far make yourself an omelet and uh... without actually getting your feet dirty or wet okay so this these these concepts can be applied in any level of land or lack thereof uh... i did hear it being and mark i i want to make sure i can pay I really do want people to feel free to call in and star six to unmute themselves if they have questions for me I want this to be an interactive process. And do we have any callers may just have patient listeners? Yes. Great hit caller. What's your question? Oh question yeah well I want to make a mention about water filtration a good thing also would be cattail marshes that you could build. They're excellent for that. As a matter of fact in permaculture the cattails or other sorts of sort of mar-type plants. We would call that a reed bed filtration system and that's usually the first line of defense especially for capturing roof runoff from you know your roof from a downspout. We definitely want to put that through. And cattails are great. I mean they have so many uses don't they? Oh yes they do. They're great for livestock feed and you can make ethanol out of them. And ethanol has has multiple benefits. In permaculture, that's what we want. We want something if something's going to occupy some space in our land. We want something that's going to have multiple uses, not just one thing. Because otherwise, what's the point of it being there? It's kind of a waste of space, right? That's right. Corn for acreage, the highest yield corn for acres is about four or five hundred gallons an acre. Whereas cattails, if you have a sewage nutrient supply, they really grow like mad, and then you can get at least 5,000 gallons an acre. Thank you very much. From what I understand, I don't know. You're right. The reason why is because you can eat all aspects, all elements of the cattail plants. You can eat the actual roots or rhizomes that are sort of under the water line or the marsh line, as long as that's a clean source. You can also harvest the stalks or you can also eat the actual seed heads. In fact, it's one of the tricks that the Russians used. We described what happened to Russia. Everything from making a k-pok type vest filler with the fluff from the head. The thatch, etc. was used, it was everything from smoked, literally, to replace, you know, tobacco to actually used for a number of other food supplements and nutrients, everything from the root to the stalk to even the upper, what everybody looks like, kind of looks like a hot dog. Everybody's familiar with it with cattails. There's a sweet meat at the top of that and one of the things they used to do is take that cattail with honey and make a sweet meat type of pemmican is the best way to describe it. Although again, all they did was use the honey and the cattail, the cattail head. Not the root, the cattail head. And this was a traveling food, something that could easily be carried, high in nutrient, high in protein, and very healthy for you. So again, it is a solution. And part of the permaculture idea is to actually develop these types of fields, these types of areas, so that you can promote a crop, correct? That's correct. What we can do with permaculture is because we're doing these things, we're designing our systems wherever they are with intention, we can choose the things that we want and we can wild harvest them so that way we don't have to plant seeds for cattails. change our landscape so that it's the perfect environment for cattails, go out in the wild, harvest them, and put them right into our system. So we don't have to wait years and years for those to grow. We can have them within the first or second year depending on how much energy we have to go out and harvest. And the idea behind this is that, like you said, if we have limited mobility or we have defense issues, there's a number of things where even by designing your permaculture, you're actually enhancing defense or at least obstructions which, you know, channel people. Forces them to think about doing something else. The winter months especially, during any of the flooding season, think about it. These are barriers. These are obstructions. They serve your purpose in more than one way. So a design, when you look at the idea of how can I make this work for me, the idea is to make it work in multiple ways. Food production, personal defense, the ability again to harvest surreptitiously, in other words you're producing in such a way that looks like it's part of the terrain. Well it is. But when the time comes, that food production is literally at arm's reach. Go ahead. Yeah, I mean if I'm thinking about, I'm sorry I heard another ding. Did someone want a star six to unmute? Do we have another caller? Do we have a question? I think you're patient listener, go right ahead. Okay, well if you're there and you're fumbling with your keys, feel free to interrupt me at any time. If I'm thinking about defense issues in terms of the perimeter of whatever land I'm designing, what I want to think about is earth firms, which are large, they could be any height you want, but they're large piles of earth, okay? And they can be, they can actually be a sound filtration system. We could also use that to target shoot if we had particular firearms that we were interested in. We could also design on either side of those earth berms. So we've taken care of sound, we've taken care of the visual situation. Now in case the enemy were to come upon us beyond or above those berms, what would we plant on those berms to really sort of stick to them, so to speak? Well we could plant a couple things, or several things at once. We could plant raspberries, lots of them, we could plant what they call thornless honey locust, which is a part of the bocage of France, which actually grows anywhere in the United States, and it's basically a tree that, even though it's called thornless, It's got a lot of thorns and it will rip through any sort of clothing. I don't care if you're wearing rip stop or not. It isn't thornless, let's put it that way. We have four of them growing here and if you scar the tree or the branch anywhere you literally get a cluster and I'm not talking a single thorn or two. Literally it's spews to defend itself thorns wherever it's scarred and that's how they built the bookage up. And you can design pathways for wildlife using these sorts of principles so that you will have a guaranteed kill zone for wildlife. Or you have a guaranteed area where they will not get through to protect other mechanisms that you may have behind that area. So there's a lot of different concepts and really mechanisms that we can design into one piece of land that gives us multiple benefits. The other thing I'll say is that if you're looking to stabilize some landscape, and I mentioned bamboo earlier, and it's like a hillside, I would suggest planting a clumping variety of bamboo. Any of the Fargesia species of bamboo would be very good clumpers. And you can then use that bamboo to build additional structures and or traps and or what have you. I mean, there's a million different uses for bamboo. I think Edison designed the first filament of his light bulb using bamboo, and it still burns today in the Smithsonian Institute. And bamboo has the tensile strength of steel, or approximates. So, you know, we could pack a lot into that berm, into that perimeter. The additional benefit of all these things is if we want to throw bamboo into the mix, it will also be a windbreak. Well, if the enemy's spraying bug spray, what do you want around your land, guys? You want a windbreak, something that's going to capture that. Well, it just so happens that bamboo with all of its little leaves, since it's a member of the grass species, will be able to act as a wind filtration system, thus reducing your level of exposure to the toxin, giving you more time to get to your gas mask supplies wherever they may be. Comments? Again, that's one of the advantages of picking the different plants for a particular mission. If you understand the wind patterns, and by the way, you have standard wind patterns for your property, guys. I was going to bring this up today with regard to monitoring in an area when we set up a radio grid. But for the local defense, where you are at that point in time, structuring these wind barriers based upon known wind patterns, can be a big plus with regard to, again, natural defenses. You're buying time. In each case, you're building stuff that's buying time, creates a physical obstruction that cannot be seen through easily, or, in fact, as organics go, typically fuzz out most electronic monitoring systems. The other thing is, as is pointed out, it is a physical filtration, field filtration system that retards or slows down ground transfer as stuff is moving with a wind pattern, with a wind cycle. So these are other solutions of work. Go ahead. So, and these, I want to say that these natural systems that we put in place are very resistant to interference from an outside force, even if explosive. Okay, the reason why this is good is because if you look out there at trees and trees that can withstand 100 plus mile per hour winds or 120 kilometer per hour winds or wherever you're listening from, those systems have very intricate root structures and they tend to have fungal networks, so mushroom networks that actually tie them all together in one landmass so even if someone were to say try to remove one of these trees using an explosive device or something as rudimentary as a chainsaw which uses a lot of energy that's really not going to have all that much of an effect on the stability of all of the greater system that's that that one at one parader network about these kinds of things because when we're talking about if you're stuck in an area you have a reason maybe you want to channel the enemy a certain way and you want to make it really damned inconvenient for them to uh... get to you from a different direction so your storm winds are coming from you want to plant all the locusts and raspberry and berms in there and some bamboo and uh... maybe in the direction you want them coming from you can kind of plant that in a in a certain pattern that almost acts as a perfect line of sight. You choose where things are planted. You choose where things are not planted. Therefore, your people have perfect line of sight because it's been designed that way. And if one element gets removed for whatever reason, you're still not in the woods. You actually are the woods. So you are creating your own castle system having this interaction. And I want to say, if you guys start getting into earthworks, which is a huge part of permaculture, earthworks and aquaculture, which is using water to actually grow food and other things, we could use like, you know, fish and edible plants in the aquaculture system, you guys start getting into that. I mean, there's a whole host of different options that you will then have available in terms of access or lack thereof. So we play around, when we get into earth moving equipment, we play around with the soil, compaction of the earth, and not, where we want to grow things, we do not compact that earth. Plant them, and where we want to, especially heavy things over time, we want to make sure that's compact, but we also want to make sure that that is leveled to the contour the land so that we can continue to harvest water and other sort of elements. I did hear another ding. If you want to go ahead and star six and just jump right in to unmute yourself, I'm ready for you. Go right ahead. Pause for a fact. Just to make sure. Do we have a caller? If so, again, you can unmute yourself and come up if you have a question. Go right ahead. OK, I'm not hearing anyone. That's OK. You're good. Go right ahead. Very good. So the caller earlier, I'm just going to call him Squash Man because I've interacted with him before and he told me to call him Squash Man. Squash Man had brought up the cattail issue and I had mentioned about reed bed filtration. It's really important when we're talking about water filtration, especially if we're going to use that water to supply a unit. a platoon, a company, a regiment, or whatever, and we don't have conventional water filtration trucks or technology. Maybe we've used that up in the course of five or ten years. It's really important to know that a reed bed filtration system, if it's set up correctly, harvests to drink. There's an important metric that we use with these bed filtrations, and that is the following. a meter of soil, and studies have been done on this, a half a meter of soil will filter E. coli successfully. Once again, half a meter of soil will filter E. coli successfully. So if you have sand on your site, you could also include that as an additional part of the process if you would include that down slope of your rebed filtration system. But the bottom line is whatever soil you're using if you've got at least a half a meter of soil and you're collecting your water down slope through that soil Whether that be in a secondary pond or dam or tank Or even a smaller container that will filter E. coli now, you know a lot of people die from E. coli guys But I've given you some information that if you can apply that to your piece of property or somebody else's piece of property, you're going to be in the clear. And you could test that using any of your mechanisms to test that. And I would accept the challenge if anyone would wish to test that out. And again, this is something that's not that complicated. Anybody out there listening can actually handle this process, right? Absolutely. I mean, you do not need to have an IQ of 120 to understand these concepts. These are old-time concepts that have been developed through the course of history. for human survival. There's nothing new here. The only thing that permaculture is really doing is it's applying our current technology to all of these old time technologies that various tribes and cultures have developed and we're sort of improving and building on that so that way we can sort of speed up the process of natural time. That's all we're doing. And one of the other things here is that a lot of the processes we're talking about are taking advantage of waste products or, in other words, construction material, taking advantage of landfill material that you could access for free. All you have to do is take the time to go recover it and implement it, you know, incorporate it into the process. purely a matter of creativity and a lot of places there's a lot of stuff going around companies going on a business people wanting to clear land material uh... construction material that can be used to uh... create uh... underground aquifer storage any number of different things so there's a lot of different materials and i go through some of the different ideas are different ways to create long-term underwater storage in existing ground conditions using the terrain modifications? Sure thing. So basically what we're talking about here guys is something from I believe it's the Welsh culture. The old time Welsh or Scottish cultures have developed the concept of what's called a swale. That's S-W-A-L-E. Now back then they called it, they spelled it totally different but right now work we're going to call it a swell at w a l e and a swell is basically a a level uh... yet one contour or level with the landscape the bottom of that bitches perfectly level and at the upslope side so it's kinda like this slightly uphill side will take that top soil away and that the downslope side of that level area that we hold out, whether that's a garden path or whether that's a tractor area where our tractor can drive through. So the downslope side of that is not compacted and we're going to pile dirt that we use to make that level. We're going to pile that dirt downhill. And what happens is that when it rains, that swale naturally collects water because we've designed it on contour with the land and we've designed it level. So because water seeks its own level, if you have a few rains per year or several rains per year in any climate anywhere around the world, that swale, because it's level, is going to capture that water and slow it down. And when it slows down, what does water do? It sits. Because we have not compacted the downhill or downslope side of that ditch, that swale, the water we soak very slowly to the downhill and as a result of that, what we've done, just through that simple action of digging a level trench and depositing all the material and debris, sort of downslope of it, we are actually re-aquafying that landscape. And in seven to ten years in a temperate climate, the effect of that is that you will open new spring lines. You as the designer will create a new spring line downslope of that and it will be naturally filtered. Now, the other benefit to a swale through digging that level trench and not compacting the downslope side is that we can plant trees, fruit trees there, and a swell really is a tree growing system. We can plant those fruit trees there and we never have to water it guys. Those fruit trees will grow by themselves without any interference for years and years and years. And another benefit of the swell is that maybe we connect it to a couple of our ponds using the level system. We can use an A-frame level or a water level or a laser level. So you see there's the interaction there. And furthermore, over the course of 100 years, or even less, and I know you're thinking, well, as an average lifespan, seven years, what's this guy talking about, 100? Well, again, we're talking about permanence. We're talking about systems where we don't need anything from the outside world. We don't need the water company. Over the course of 10 or 20 or 30 or 100 years, we can recharge our well that we have dug. Or maybe that's already there. We've actually increased the water supply in what they call the aquifer, which is basically a huge lens of water that exists under the soil. And that's where all your water is coming from that comes out of your tap now. Well, you can do that on a small level using a swale or a set of swales and ponds and dams. The other, and I did hear a couple dings, I want to make sure those folks know, if you've called in and you have questions, please to unmute and interrupt me, I'd be glad to take any questions at any time. or mark what I'm sure. Now one of the things we point out is, if we have a caller, go ahead and jump in while I'm talking here guys. Fruit tree, fruit production with other plants. We can mix this too to make the terrain varied to create the illusion of a more natural round. In other words, it looks like it's random. It wasn't put there by somebody, therefore it doesn't draw attention. If it looks like it's naturally occurring, especially if it's somewhat randomized, though it isn't, we can establish both high-level fruit trees, lower food producing vine and or bush type products so that we actually are looking at overlapping food production off of this underground aquifer storage, this underground reservoir that we are creating. Now the neat thing about this is utilizing natural woods and such too, using scrap wood, debris wood. Well, people tend to think that, well, no, it's going to break down the road real fast, guys. I would challenge you just to give you a feel for this. Go to any areas where there's been old logging from 100 years ago. Go up to the northern part of Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota. Go back and find on the old maps where the old logging companies were. I can take you to a place called Avery Lake. For as long as I've lived and for as long as my dad has lived, that area was logged back in the 1900 window. This is the year 2013. The logs in the fresh water are still sitting there where they have been for more than a hundred years now. Now, some have gradually broken down. Some have been moved because, well, the fishermen wanted to use the lake. Needless to say, just with the timber, the fallen small timber and medium timber that's in the water, it became a fish haven with little subson holes all over the place where the fish nestle back in and you go bobbin' for them to try and get yourself the biggest perch that's in the lake. The point is that if it's put underground in much the same way, You're looking at a long time for the material to break down, especially if it's a pod or a lump or, again, a mass of. You're not looking at direct sunlight exposure, you're looking at again, fresh water. Saltwater contamination or breakdown is very different with the mineral construction. Fresh water, even with steel, iron, the oxygen issue, the lack of light, combination of things, means that the material lasts a lot longer. Even in the depths of the Great Lakes, we're in a conventional lake. amazingly enough. So when we're trying to wrap our brain around the idea of how would this work, this actually has been demonstrated to be used in the desert to actually re-secure lands that were considered long dead, correct? That is correct. Actually, in the Dead Sea Valley, which is the highest salt content on the face of the earth and the lowest elevation on the face of the earth, these principles have been put forth to be able to successfully grow not only fruit trees, but also fungi, mushrooms, edible mushrooms, which in that region of the world had not previously been seen, and that occurred that that change happened over the course of I believe twelve to fifteen years. And interestingly enough there are some variations on this when you mentioned mushrooms where mushroom production they're actually using variations above crown now utilizing logs and plugging. And that's another technique for enhancing an area and actually producing more food that most people will not readily recognize, which is another interesting thing. Easily concealed, easily employed. Once it's in place, it's self-managing, except obviously you need to go out and pick the food. You need to go out and work, WRIK, to collect the harvest. So there's still, obviously, there's There is effort involved, but a lot of this, once it's developed, is good for years to include decades or even over a century of production if you engineer it right and think ahead. And we need to be thinking at this depth and this level. This is not a two-hour movie we're talking about. We're talking about saving the nation. We're talking about understanding how to feed ourselves. Half the battle is just being able to take care of yourself and have multiple solutions in the wings. Go ahead, please. And what I'd like to emphasize, thanks Mark, I mean what I want to emphasize to everybody out there, you know, is that the topics that you've heard about over the course of this past hour, there have literally been volumes of books, there have been college degrees, specializing in each one of these topics. So you are getting a very scant sort of surface level exposure to this. The important thing is that you're understanding that there's an interaction among all of these elements that can benefit you. And I want to apologize in advance. I do my best to listen to all the hours, but I don't know if certain topics have or have not been brought up on previous hours, especially from years ago. So you know, Dave from New York, if you're out there, you know, Sir David, I want to thank you. If you brought any of these topics up, Spike, Henry, Ed, Mark, Don, if you guys have brought these up, I appreciate it. I'm not trying to jump on anybody's toes here. I'm trying to bring everything together so that we can understand, we can all sort of work together in an interactive way because we are on the same page, as far as I know. On the wood issue and the mushroom issue, there's a concept that was developed in Europe. And we can kind of add something to this thing called the swale that we brought up earlier, you know, that level rainwater captures it. That swale, we can use something called thuco culture. Thuco culture is wood culture. Wood takes a long time to break down and exposed to water and rain. It acts like a sponge. Take your wood. Your detritus would put soil on top of it, plant whatever you want, walk away and you are good to go. And it'll be there waiting for you when you come back later. 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