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We're on the homework network on Eastern Seaboard, top of Maine, bottom of Florida, bottom of Florida, across the ark of the Gulf of Mexico, ahead of Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, Oklahoma, big jug of Nebraska, a whole bunch of Wyoming to include both Pitt 3rd and 5th and our friends in the Civil War state of Colorado where they just kicked two of the bums out. They hit the curb, don't let the door hit them on the way out, rather rumpus that is. Waving the left coast we turn back to the east. sweep across plains leaf over the burgeoning banks of Mississippi land and the Smokies where the restaurant crews, grammar teams, okay teams, and the Ma Bell Grammys Consortium of Retired Telecommunications Workers bring school to Spike BK. It's cooler here! Temperatures have dropped. It's semi-clear. We have mixed cool weather. You've got to really be careful in this. I could even say that it could drop quite a bit further tonight. What's it like in your neck of the woods and what is this special day today, sir? Same here, yeah, we've experienced a considerable drop. It's been sure sleeve comfortable outdoors in the middle of the day, which is a big change for the better. I expected to overshoot into the cold and unpleasant, tends to do that every year. I wish I would quit doing that, but you know, I don't get a say on that sort of stuff. It is September 13, 2013. It is Friday evening. It is the last hour of the day and the week for the intelligence report. And that makes this Quartermaster's Corner. And that means we can offer all kinds of solutions with regard to bullets and beans, basketballs, backstops, you name it, everything, well not just with the bees, Bibles, bullets, etc. but also, and beans, but also everything else in the alphabet. If it's something that appears to be on the list of things to do, we're going to try to offer it. And if you have any suggestions, you can also call in. But BK, what do you got for us this evening? Go ahead. Well, we have a few of the usual things and there are always a few topics queued up for eventual, to be eventually addressed. Let's start out with, I did a little bit of searching and hunting around. We are always looking for finished ammo. We're always looking for components and we talk about components and reloading and all this kind of good stuff. But the simple fact of the matter is most people prefer factory finished ammo and there's something to be said for that. Everybody likes his own reloads, nobody likes anybody else's reloads or trusts them unless they know the individual face to face and have good confidence in their judgment, discipline, etc. Hence the popularity of factory ammunition. An outfit that I had not stumbled across previously called LAXAMO.com, that is LAXLEMAALFAXRAYAMO.COM is listing a 2000 round bulk pack of Federal 62 grains at $890. That is the 62 grain green tip, SS109 or whatever you want to call it, XM855. There may be some very tiny difference between those two. I'm not aware of what that difference might be. This is 62 grain steel penetrator, the usual stuff, 223. They are offering 2,000 rounds at $890. And their live website claims they have 41 of these units in stock, which is extraordinary. Very often we go hunting for this stuff and we find somebody's idea of being in stock means they've got three of something. So there's a whopping 41. I predict that it will probably not see Monday once people get busy over the weekend and so forth. If anybody is on the hunt for this sort of thing and you have no difficulty dropping $900 and some dollars when you count the shipping and so on and so forth, there is an available source. It's one that I'm not previously familiar with. Federal 62 grain green tip, 2000 rounds, $900. That's in the $0.45 per round range. That's pretty standard nowadays. And, oh, I'm sorry, did we lose you? No, I'm here. I'm allowing you to actually have some time, too. Oh, okay, very good. Well, again, one of the things to remember if you catch it, and it's, you compare the prices, but right now there's not a whole lot to compare. I've been running around the websites today, and example, everybody says, well, things are slowing down, really? Did you see what happened to the 22M on the last two days? almost as quickly as anybody got there. I assume BK their allocations. They went, phwoo! I mean, literally gone. Centerfire had a quantity. Yeah, it's slowing down only until we figure out where there is some more. While we save up our pennies to buy a tank full of gas to go out and raid the next little cache of it. Exactly. The same is true with regard to what we're dealing with here in bullets, primers, and ammunition in general. If you find a decent watering hole, like I said, be quiet, get what you want out of the site first, but then police may take a point of sharing it. I'd rather our people get it than somebody else we don't know. So if you've got friendlies in the area, again like we're doing up in the middle of the state here in Michigan, we have roving teams now. They've actually been doing this for a couple of years. As they find something, they hit so many Walmarts and they go through and clean them out. Now our Kmart yesterday got, not Kmart, forgive me, same difference, Myers, Shiffy, Takers, Myers. I got some 243, I think you have a whopping four boxes of that, they may have already sold a bunch of it, 243 Winchester and 270 Remington. Both of those came in. It's the only centerfire ammunition they've got. Actually what they did to try and make it look like there was something in the cabinet, they put some 12 gauge ammo in there that normally isn't in there. But they did that because it's hollow. there's nothing there. It's like, hello, hello, hello. So, Big Echo, and so they got four boxes, one, three, four boxes, the other, and that's it. And a while back when this shortage was first coming, I took a camera in and snapped a picture of the local Wally Shells to show how empty they were. And I got one of them with a store in play very perturbed and upset because you know it's against the rules to take a photograph blah blah blah. You know and posted that one. That must have been a couple three years ago. I have not been tempted to do the same since because it's not news anymore. We have gotten to the point where we are accustomed to bear shelves now. And in a glass-in case with a box of something every foot and a half is no longer a news site to us. Now it would be news if we actually had a pile of stuff in one of those slots. Exactly. So for everybody out there, pay attention. If you see something that looks like it's worthwhile, again, take the time to let the crew know so you can clean it off the shelf before somebody else makes it disappear. The other thing again is it's catch-as-catch-can. You know, systematically we're going through finding what we can, picking it up, and you know, heading on down the road with whatever they just happen to leave laying around, whatever's left there. I visited the local Wally within the last week or week and a half and was chatting up the guy behind the counter. There are two of them. The morning guy is rather unpleasant and the afternoon guy is older, rounder and more chatty. I think that he has time on his hands. It's not like he's shoveling this stuff out the door. What he said was that They actually got and had for the first time ever 1,000 packs of Federal 2-3 55 grain that they received 4 of them and of course they flew out the door at $450 a piece. But that was odd in that they cannot keep stock of any of the more reasonably priced 223. They have a few of the ridiculously expensive variations. But they have always had that one marked out on the shelf as something the store stocked. But even before the vacuum operation began on ammo, they'd never actually gotten a shipment of those 1000 packs. that sometime in the last couple of weeks they got four of them just out of the blue for no particular reason instead of 40 of the 100 packs or whatnot. They got four of these 1000 packs and of course they vanished as soon as people spotted them. But that's $450. I'm not sure how many people are walking around with that much cash in their pockets. people may have whipped out the plastic or something which is not my reference or recommendation. But it is very spotty, it's very irregular and random and weird. You would not expect them to be packing things up in a thousand pack boxes unless they're shoveling it out the door so fast they can't be bothered with the other cardboard. We hear contradictory things. The manufacturers claim all we're spinning the machines as fast as we can and spewing it out the door, you know, X many millions around this, that and the other thing per day and so on. From the retailers we are hearing the distributors have nothing for us. We're not getting anything. We're not getting shipments. It sounds to me as if both theories are correct that yes, indeed the civil population is vacuuming up whatever actually hits the shelves, but it sounds also to me as if very little of it is hitting the shelves. I think that our so-called servants, our so-called employees, the people that supposedly operate at our behest in our interest, are actually using our money to vacuum up the bulk of the available manufacture. And whether it's going into caves or overseas or into the Marianas Trench is anybody's guess, but it's not hitting the shelves. Exactly, one of the other things too is again big purchasing agents for private entities can walk in with a lot more throw especially since it's you know so-and-so you know corp or show you know so-and-so LLC they'll walk in and say hey we're a business you're a business what kind of price you give me on a dozen pallets And it's like, oh, well, let me see if I have a dozen pallets. Well, I can do a little better. Well, what's a little better? So they go back to dickering, and they end up carrying the stuff away before it ever hits the shelf anyway. And there's a lot of big businesses out there that are like regular businesses like you in mind. It's like Gibson Guitar. After what Gibson Guitar has seen, don't you think the owner would be smart enough to buy some ammo? I mean, think about it. Guitar is a nice. One would hope, one would also hope that he'd have a stash of rosewood somewhere. Exactly. He'd be ready for the troubles. A little case in point, I would note, I can't say for sure. In fact, I'm not going to say more. It's interesting, my dad is a mandolin player on Gibson. I want to remember this. He started playing mandolin back after World War II. Actually, everybody played string instruments in my family at one point or another. So he knew how to play guitar and you know, and many other instruments in the process. Because my great aunts and my great uncles and my grandfather and everybody played something. My grandfather and my dad had a little trouble because after he lost several fingers during the depression, playing the stringed instruments was a little tough after that. But he still could get away with a few things. Anyway, he took both his guitar and his mandolin down to Nashville and got them appraised. And the guy wouldn't let him leave without selling them. And in fact, the mandolin that he had was a custom built mandolin by one of the high Masters Building Mandalins in Nashville for many many many many years my dad bought these things back when he was traveling around working You know taking classes and being given Series of courses from everything you know all the different companies that you know engineering companies that were part of the job when he worked for the fire department and He took him back and I guess the only thing that was a little higher price in the guitar they had there's one of them on made by the same custom builder if it been just one year younger Interestingly enough, the guy passed away I guess the next year. The gentleman did, but both of those, the guy said, oh no, in fact there were people standing there who said, if he doesn't buy it from me here, before you don't have to leave the building, we'll make sure it's sold. So very interesting I have a point there guys you never know of course my dad had an idea But you never know again This is like custom combat knives and a lot of other things if you're worried about finding the shekels you need for one project You might have something you run into out there where it doesn't look as fancy But remember a lot of times when it's custom built It was designed for work World War II, there's a lot of knives that people do stupid things with because they think, oh that's just an old, final hunting knife. The beginning of World War II, right as Pearl Harbor hit, in fact when it hit, we desperately didn't have enough fighting knives or knives in production. They went to every custom knife manufacturer that you would you'll even know the names anymore guys there are so many of them there were hundreds of them and What they did is they said make as many as you can as quickly as you can and as soon as you finish a lot Send them to us Well, you can imagine the way collectors are once they get Fixated on something they want to have one of every manufacturer and so on that'll be a rough a rough goal to accomplish. If you've got one that XYZ knife makers produced and they only cranked out 5000 during the course of the war. 500 at the most, in many cases only 500. Its interest is a little more, a little less, mostly like you said, up around a few thousand. Remember a lot of them died in the Pacific. A lot of those knives never came back. Some of them the rest at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean with the ship that the man went down with so they never even saw combat in some cases The fact of the matter is that makes those knives even rarer well the thing is if you're looking at old web gear equipment, maybe Grandpa saved his fill in the plank or maybe a friend of yours. He's not a relative now It's a matter of if he gave it to as a gift and I would hold back But if it's something where you find that there's no relatives and the stuff is at a sale and it's like, well you got the old stuff, you know, well grandpa was in World War II, you got any old stuff from, you know, when he was in the war? Yeah, he's got some stuff that doesn't look real pretty here and everybody expects it to be this K bar or, you know, this pristine bayonet. Guys, these knives look like five inch to seven inch, depending on who made them and what blade they were told to make. Most of them look like five inch crudely made hunting knives. It's because they are. They were handmade. They were custom crafted. Each blade was individually manufactured from raw stock. And they are collectors items. If the sheath is there, please don't throw it away. Hang on to it. I found over a dozen of these over the years and in each case, yep, turned out the guy was either a marine in the Pacific or the guy was, in a couple cases, they were airmen because, remember, pilots had to have knives cut their way out of things. And so that's another way. You find something like that, you convert that because, like you said, BK, they want one of everyone. Let me give you an example for people who don't understand what I'm saying. Have you gone to a website and looked at US American parts for car beans, garands, and say Springfield rifles? Have you noticed that where it'll say firing pin and it might say there'll be a bracket that says SA or firing and then there's another one right below it. Same picture. It says firing pin and it says RM and then another one and you'll see all these different initials. Well, that's because many different factories built all of the parts for these rifles. Now most of it they build parts they built a rifle. If you have a collector's carbine you want your parts to be matching. If you have to change out a firing pin you want to try to find the firing pin that matches and the proof mark label for each of those factories was a letter code. German arsenals were the same way, Russian arsenals were the same way. So when you have an American rifle just throwing another part on isn't necessarily going to satisfy somebody if they start doing a detailed look. It's like collector's cars. Well, the same is true with these knives. There's guys looking for certain knives that, you know, there may only be a few hundred left in existence. Most people, like I've seen some things that are just so sad, they throw it out, they're thinking, well, that's not, that's junk. It has no history. Grandpa probably just picked that up and was carrying that on occasion here and there. Yeah, he did. All the way from Pearl Harbor after Pearl Harbor, all the way to the end of the war, probably if he survived it. And so it's good to know the history of the things that you have that grandpa's collected maybe. But if you don't catch on, and somebody else does, for those of you who do have an eye, well, ask them if they're sure they want to sell it. And then for whatever the price is, if you can pretty well ID it, keep in mind that can buy you another AK. That can buy you another box of ammo that BK was talking about. These are ways of financing. The downside on all of that is becoming an expert on the topic. Right, you have to take a chance. But if it's $10, you're not losing anything. That's the thing. I've run on $5, $10, I don't want that. It'll be in the junk box, in the grab box for a dollar an item, that kind of thing. Right. Before we go to Collars, I've heard a number of things, but let's toss out the other MO discovery I found. CheaperThanZert is claiming to have Lake City M80 308 at 270 per 500. That is 270 per 500 for 762 Lake City M80. That's a 149 grain FMJ, all that kind of good stuff. I'm not sure whether we should believe them, but they are claiming that right now. So, you know, that is a possibility. If anybody's out hunting of the Joe is standing by if there are any callers about gardening or permaculture, otherwise I will hang back. There we go. Thank you, sir. And who else do we have? Heard another caller? Uh, Meadeater. Go ahead, Meadeater. What do you got? Uh, real quick. Uh, I've been connected, or have a friend, we have a, uh, that has a seven figure purchasing account for ammunition. And I just wanted to say, make a point and tell people that although you're starting to see supplies come up on various websites, the amounts are very thin and the prices are still, I think, relatively high. They're not going to get any lower. And in the last week and a half, again, we have, you know, this guy's got seven figures to purchasing one of the big websites. and they're not able to find the prices or more importantly the quantities. to purchase stuff. So when you see any ammunition, buy it. Our good friends over at Right to Bear Ammo, they, you're talking about .308, they have .308 for $387. That's a good website to check out. I think ammunition could go also if you want to stay away from cheaper than dirt. Is that remanufactured? It's got to be at that cost, I assume, right? Yeah, it once fired military brass, and I also saw ammo men had federal, they're not, they had federal, but they had some steel-case, Russian ammo, two, two, three, 500 rounds for $200. So those were the best prices that I saw. I'll get off, but again, the two are wolf, do you recall? I want to say it was wolf. It wasn't too wolf. It was $200 for $500. They had a few packs, I think, for $400, $400,000. That was ammo, man, delivered. So I'll get off, but again, the supplies are very thin. You're not going to get any better and I would highly recommend purchasing it now because in the last week or a half, two weeks, they haven't been able to find anything. It's on the shelf. One of the other things here too is also flavor of the day. I'm seeing again brands, I've seen breeds I've never seen. I mean, it's kind of like who was talking about being down at Fort Lauderdale and seeing these tiny little roller skate cars I've never seen. There's ammunition brands, I don't know where they came from. I really don't. I have no idea. I've dealt with a lot of ammunition over the years and I don't throw boxes away because we reload stuff. And we've got guys that reload and I always route the boxes to the guys that reload it. And I've seen pretty much all the weird and inane stuff and I'm seeing names that I just don't know. Bratislava maybe, I don't know. Certainly not from the US in most cases. and or off-the-wall companies where they're making maybe they've made up a company named to make a run in shotgun shells because shotgun shells have been the unique one there's been some really off-the-wall stuff there and we do know that Turkish and also even some Greek ammunition came again the Greeks have been given not carte blanche but they've been given an open door for a long time the Turks were closed all of a sudden the Turks we want to buy them because we want them to kill Syrians and myrtle eight people for us and all of a sudden they buy them as prostitutes by giving them corporate business Well, yeah, import permissions are handed out like party favors. You know, you're in favor this week, you get some of these. That's, in my opinion, a horrible abuse of the powers and privileges we've granted to the feds. We tell them that, okay, you're our servants, you're supposed to be taking care of certain things. That's an example of them usurping powers to which they are not entitled. This business of saying, well, we're going to allow Australia to send us two boatloads of sugar because they pass some law that we like, or they let us set up a CIA station to do a little bit of union busting, or whatever it is. That's just an outrage. They don't have any business. switching the spigot on and off, telling us what we're allowed to import. And so you can expect Bobo recently has given himself the new power to block any ammunition import, any firearms import that he doesn't like. That's just officially recognizing something that he and his predecessors, I imagine, have been doing for years. Notice that he is not happy with Russia right now because Putin has been putting his thumb in Bobo's eye long overdue. Somebody did that. Putin is not a nice guy, but I do like seeing Bobo twisting in the breeze. The wolf ammo may dry out. This is the way spoiled little biatch is trying to get even with people who humiliate them. Do not be at all surprised if there are even further supply disruptions and gyrations. It may even just drive from the ego of the sock puppet that's sitting in the big chair right now. There's another variable to be thrown into the mixes if we don't have enough of them. Real quick on this note, the wolf ammunition we're seeing, not everybody is carrying any or even has any in stock and has not been able to restock. Center fire systems did receive an allotment of ball, soft point, and hollow point, but it's not pallets and pallets like we've seen in the past. It's all allocated now. The other thing real quick, www.cdnninvestments, they've got a magazine sale going on. Yeah, a lot of the prices are good. Actually, there's some AR-15 plastic mags. They're Messer, M-S-A-R, limit of 6, but they're $8 apiece, guys. The MSARs, yeah, those are the clones of the AUG rifle. MSAR, however, goofed up a little bit. When they said about cloning the AUG, they slipped up and the plastic furniture had a slightly different shrinkage rate than they anticipated, instead of saying oops and buying furniture from STAR. They said, oh well, we'll just tinker the CAD drawings of the metal parts to accommodate the distorted and out of spec furniture. So they ended up making a rifle that was not 100% compatible with the AUG they were trying to clone. And one of the side effects of that is that the magazine is a little bit different. The magazines are cross compatible, but I forget which direction it goes whether I think the MSAR magazines are a little bit narrower because they have to fit into a shrunken magazine well. So I think the MSARs will fit into the Genuins, but the Genuins won't fit into the MSARs or something like that. So that is very, very much a niche product they blew themselves up in my opinion if they're one hundred percent compatible i think they would have sold more rifles i think they have stopped making those rifles i don't know whether uh... they will produce any more of them police and makes which is the big things if you have the rifle there eight dollars a man great now yeah because it's uh... you know only that rifle can accept that maggot died think that mag might fit into the genuine in those stairs but i'm not a hundred percent certain That certainly is cheap by normal standards. That's probably a going out of the AUG-Qun business clearance because for $8 those have been running $30. They don't even have a picture of them. That's what's said. The other thing is they do have AK-74 Bulgarian mags, Dark Earth, Polymer, Mag, New, Bulgarian, limit 6, $15 a piece. Now that's the best price I've seen in the country for quite some time. But again, you can only get six. I don't know how many they have. But if our AK-74 listeners are out there and you still didn't get enough magazines or your policy, buy more, well, again, www.cdnninvestments.com. dot com go to www.cdnninvestments.com free tool with any $75 online order it's a little you know utility wrench tool thingy with their I should say screwdriver toolie it's a Chinese sport thing it's expected they have some AR mags they have Ruger 10-22 mags for $14 apiece for the 10 rounders they have some AR 10 mags for $40 apiece that are the ArmaLite standard There's a few other odds and ends. You want to take a look at it guys to see if there's anything there useful for your purposes. Those AK-74 mags jumped out at me and there are some aluminum AR mags for $10. Again, these are C products. If you like C products, they'll work. Again, take a look at what they've got. See if it's worthwhile or it fits your niche. They do have some other stick mags. See, 25 round Ruger BX25s for $25 a piece. So it's a mixed sale, but it's definitely worth checking out www.cdnninvestments.com. Yeah, they're also listing the 54-hour broken shell extractor at $2. The price is very good. You should have one on hand. The odds of getting a broken Hachel in 54R are minuscule, but $2, if you've got anything in 54R, you ought to have it in your kit anyway, just as a meta-principle. Again, it's one of the things that should be in your pack. If you've got the rifle, remember there's Tokarev's and there's also SBD type rifles out there in force. The Tokarev, older, but it's the same cartridge. If you have anything that takes a 7.62x54R or if you have them in your unit, at least have one in the armorers kit. Put one in the armorers. Ideal for $2 apiece, grab a couple of them. Say, limit of 10, okay, grab a couple. This is the outfit that normally has the more common calibers, 308, X39 and 223 at about $4 a piece, which still compares favorably to the $8 to $10 that other vendors want. They're kind of the go-to guys for those extractors generally. One of the things also for pistol mags in general, CDN and Investments does carry a lot of other mags. I've been mentioning BK these frames that are available from e-sarcoinc.com. They carry all of the P12, P13, P14, P17, and P18 mags. Now, all those mags interchange. If you have a P12, the bigger mag will go into, like a 13, a 14, the 16, the 17, the 18, all go into the smaller weapon. So you can have that little chubby stubby with a 16 round mag in it, guys. which means you got all the firepower of the bigger gun but you've got the initial conceal ability but your backup mags could be bigger. Now these are factory mags and there's aftermarket they've got both so it's a matter how much you want to spend but You're looking at about $19.95 a piece for the mags. They're a double stack. They are a unique mag and they are still available. I don't know BK what's going on with this stuff showing up over at Sarco except that maybe one of the contractors that was making the castings, they've switched out. Or, I don't know, maybe the company's gone under. I don't think they have, but apparently So far the people that got these blanks are saying they're excellent. They're what they expected. They're not finished. They're course finished, but the finish that needs to be done can all be done with existing machinery that we've got. A smithy would do it. So you've got slides, all four sizes. And those are 1911 slides. One nice thing about the P series of pistols, these P guns, is that almost all the components are standard 1911, but it has a staggered internal volume magazine, large capacity magazine. So that's the odd man out. If you're going to buy those things and play with them, you need to buy the mags. I had all four sizes, they're down to only having the P14 right now, which is fine, I'd buy more of those, but right now CDNN has a good price, they have the different sizes, so it's a personal choice issue, and if you're going to do that project and you have the machinery, you could have yourself whipped together a nice little hand cannon for a really good price. The slide and the frame, if slide costs 15 frames cost 30. You buy more of them, they're cheaper. So for $45 you got the two basic components. Everything else you can either buy from secondhand or from Sarco. Sarco has all kinds of 45 kits and all the internal parts. You can spend whatever money you want. Are those guys double stack in 45? Oh yes, that's why I call it the Chubby Stubby. It is a fist full of fire power. A 12 round Chubby Stubby, you know, 45 ACP. Now they're making the 12s are made with a 3 or a 3 and a, actually I think the 12 is made with a 3. The P13 is made with the 3 and a half and then you know the others are made with a larger commander or the standard 5 inch slides. So they have all four slides. In fact, I'll bring this up again. If we go to www.e-circoinc.com, number one, e-circoinc.com, and I'm going to post that in the chat room again there, www.e-circoinc.com. Once you get there to the page guys, and it's pretty straightforward, www.e-sarcoinc.com. Over on the left side it says Parts and Accessories. It's about the seventh item or eighth item from the bottom. Click Parts and Accessories. When you get to Parts and Accessories, it says the middle column, there says, right on the far left, it says Pistol and Rifle Parts. Revolver Parts, forgive me, Pistol and Revolver Parts. Let me know microphone. There we go now, go to Pistol and Revolver Parts. Then there's a listing of all the handguns. Of that, go to the upper left-hand corner, M, it's the 1911 GI. Now once you get there, go to page 5. And on the very last page, which is page 5, they list the P-12 double stack single action frame, the P-14 double stack double action steel frame, the single stack M1911 type double action frame. They list the slide casting 45 four inch slide, slide casting 45 full five inch side. the slide casting 45 subcompact 3.5 slide casting 45 subcompact 3 inch even shorter and then they do offer at the bottom the wide body 1911 type double action P13 type frame casting so they have a number different options the one some are more specialized than others to be quite honest that P12 is a single stack or for, give me, double stack, but single action, that would be the quickest to put together. And I would go, personally, I'd even go with a full-size slide on that. I mean really the action itself can handle it. There's nothing, there's no big problem there, but if you want to make a chubby stubby, what you do is take that P12 frame and grab that 3 inch slide, 3 inch barrel or 3.5 inch barrel slide, personally go with, it's your choice, go either way. And there you go. Those are the two components and you got yourself a pocket, you know, a pocket hand cannon. And again, it's a minimum 12 round capacity, the P12, but all of the mags for the P12, P13, P14, and all the other pistols of comparable design, the mags all interchangeable work in that P12. So anything you could run into in the market would work with it, which is cool. Anyway, Project Guns, guys, I don't want to dwell on this too long. I know we've got other things to cover, BK. But it's e-circoinc.com. And it is at the very last page. It's page five of pistols and revolver parts when you go to the 1911 GI section. It's Parts and Accessories, which then takes you to Pistols and Revolver Parts and Accessories. Then you have a selection. Go to 1911 GI. And then page five is where you go for the castings. There's a lot of other stuff in the 45 section. You've got all the parts combinations. You need to use your brain and write things down because they've got all kinds of combinations of parts kits. You can spend, like I said, any money you want. The idea is to spend a minimal amount and get the gun online. Right, at $30 for casting, you know, that's almost worth having it just for a paperweight. Yeah, exactly. I suspect that if you entered the search term casting into the site, you'd probably get those to pop up, but you know, of course you'd have to go else-wise to get the parts kits to the display. Now, another thing real quick before we go to other freeze-dry guys, got a 40... Okay, I'm going to remind everybody one last time, well, not one last time, but once again, sound like a bit of a broken record here, but at GunPartsCorp.com you can still get the caseloads of 60mm M61 Now, filters don't seem like the sexiest thing out there. Everybody likes hardware that goes bang in slides and has moving parts and you know you can drag it out onto the kitchen table and clean and scrub it and have some fun even if you're not burning off expensive ammunition. There's no fashion accessory statement you can make by choosing what camouflage pattern you're going to apply to your filters, they are great. And that's all there is to it. And their function is to make nothing happen. They are the most boringest thing in the whole world. You breathe all the time and their job is to make it possible for you to continue to breathe on a continuous basis. They're sort of like insurance. I mean, you know, if it's doing its job, it's a total waste of money, right? But if you find that you need one, there is no substitute. Gunpartscorp.com, you can still get for however long it lasts a full case of 45 of the 60 millimeter filters at $150 plus shipping. Gang, that is half the cost of the next best offer. And when Dunpart's runs out, you can expect the next best offers to rise in price because the cost a vendor charges is restrained a little bit by competitors. So as soon as these things run out, and there's no telling when they'll happen, but they will at some point run out. They used to have the M61 masks in and then they stopped. They don't normally post any sort of message saying low stock or get them while they last were running out. They just sell them until they're gone and then you go back to the website one day and oops they're out. Just as they're out of the M61 masks. Other people have the masks. Gunparts has the Canadian C3 masks which take this filter directly. But I don't know of anybody out there operating at the retail level that is making an offer comparable to this. $150 plus maybe $20 to $30 shipping for $45 of these things works out to $4 per filter. If you can get filters for $4 a piece, choose your mask to match the filter. Don't choose the filter to match the mask. The usual argument is, well whatever the most expensive component is, choose that and then buy the cheap accessories that go along with it. Well, four or five filters, if you're paying 8, 12, 15, some of them are $20 and $30 a piece. If you're buying four or five filters, that completely swamps the cost of the mask, even if you bought a mask to fit the filter. So do not get stuck in a mental rut of that. Sorry, you need a matching set of each, preferably several filters. for a single mask. If you find yourself actually using these things, well, I have a filter and a spare, it's not going to last you as long as you wish it did. You'll be discarding a perfectly operational mask because you're completely out of filters. So don't let that happen. If you've got even just a few masks, you do want to have several filters per mask, and this is a case of 45. Joe reports that some of his friends have received shipments and they are up to, last I heard was 1992 production. That has to be getting close to the end of the run. If they were emptying the warehouse in sequence in any fashion, selling the oldest first and so on, that's a hint that they're probably not more than 10 or 20% of their original inventory remaining. So do not sit on this one any longer than you absolutely have to. If you can't scrape up 170, 180 bucks, I understand that. If you can, grab a case of this stuff. and squirrel it away. This is a bargain that is going to go away at some point and you're going to kick yourself if you miss it. Comments? Exactly. One of the things most places don't have cases of those to begin with. If you can access a case of them and they're willing to sell a case of them, you know, in one lot, some places won't do that right now because they don't have the inventory. Remember also that the M2 masks are coming in. They're made by the same company that made the M61s and the M9. But the M61 finish masks, the Yugoslavian M2s were made by Nokia and those are coming in now and they are the same basic mask. There aren't very many of them but they are coming through except they look more like a standard M9 than anything else built. They were made by the Finns. So you have both versions out there. Both take the same filter, just like the M9, the German GSG mask, and the British resuscitators and the Canadian ones. All of these filters are more than serviceable enough. The big thing is like I said, to have spares. And a lot of places, the wholesalers have sold out. They have very few of any spares left. They count them in hundreds now, not in cases or pallets anymore, guys. I just talked to one of the dealers, wholesalers I deal with in California. And the younger guy there, and he said, oh no, our purchasing agent in Switzerland right now can't find any. and what we have, I'm trying to get a quote, I'm trying to see if I can get all the M10 filters he has left. The M10, you know, chipmunk cheek. But as far as the large filters, they have some Swiss. They have some Swiss I haven't seen before. Apparently these came in with the limited number of Swiss filter. A certain number of other Swiss filters came in with the masks BK. But I have not had a sample. When I place the next order that I'm going to place, I'm going to ask for a sample because I want to take a look at them. I can't afford a case or anything like that, but I can at least get a sample so we have an idea what we're looking at. When unique stuff comes in, we do want to know about it because it's another solution. All of these filters will work on all of those masks. We're talking about the M9, the M2 Yugo, the Model 61 that's coming out of Finland. By the way, the M2 is from Finland also. And any of these others that take a 60 millimeter filter, the filters you're mentioning will go on them. The other thing that's a little bit backwards is that if you get one of the adapter rings, or preferably two, that allow the 60 millimeter masks to use 40 millimeter filters, Then, while we think of the 60mm masks as being the oddballs, the strange thing is that if you've got the adapter, you have more versatility of consumables than the people that are supposedly in the standard. That is, if you've got a 60mm mask and you have an adapter ring, you can use either the 60mm filters or the 40s. whereas the guys that have the NATO 40 millimeter masks have one and only one size they can use. That's 40 millimeters. So it's a little bit backwards and it's a little bit strange. You know, in other areas if you have an oddball car it's hard to get parts. If you have an oddball computer it's hard to get, you know, parts and software and so on. If you have the less common mask, as long as you have that adapter ring, you actually have more versatility than the people who are supposedly in the mainstream. It's a little bit odd, it's counter to our habits of thought, but it is the way it works. Main military is the place to get those adapter rings right now. If you go looking elsewhere, people want $8-$10 apiece for them, which is quite ridiculous. Main military, last I saw, had them as cheaply as I think $2 apiece or some such if you bought five or ten. So, take a look on their site. They're the only vendor I know of that have those at a reasonable cost. and they do have a lot of other NBC technology on the front page also check LTR specials and their clearance section and cross-reference the prices if you want quantity take a look at their bulk also they do have a wholesale section if you're looking at buying for a group then put your money together and you know think you know think the thing through a purchase wisely the other thing before we go and again I appreciate Joe being on standby guys We're not done with the growing season. In fact, now I've got a rush because I've got to get these little mini greenhouses up for my plants to see just exactly how long we can keep them through the season. I already got the frames, actually they're window frames, and I'm going to box everything in so we can keep everybody up to speed on that. That's another little research project. I'm sure we can extend the life of the plants probably another month without spending any additional money and seeing any significant damage. Also, watch yard sales. There's a, like I said, with the surplus stuff showing up, like World War II stuff, a lot of veterans are passing away. But a lot of other things are showing up. Ask when you are at a yard sale, if it's in a state of sale or whatever. Yeah, we really need to move on that because it is getting chilly. It's not for long before we get our first frost. I can tell it. Yeah, well it's acting right now. We're dropping significantly today. So again, like we said, it starts to spiral down. It's going to spiral down quick. Still have sunshine. Still got clear. But we went from tropical rainforest to, wow, Michigan ones again. Yeah, in fact, you need help with that tomorrow, Dad. Just knock on the door. You know I'm taking care of other stuff. But I'll help you with that. Yeah, I think we're going to finish the main greenhouse as far as the little tidbits need to be done with that tomorrow. That'll be the priority. As I've been commenting to people, you can tell it's September, the Halloween stuff is in the stores. Two months for goodness sake, come on guys. I'm all for capitalism. Come on, that's ridiculous. Guys, fall is the best time to plant your flower bulbs. as well as your trees. In addition to your cold frames and mini greenhouses like Mark's talking about, here's a little tip for you, and I know we're close, so this is a really quick tip. If you have a fruit tree, Plant daffodils about three feet out from the trunk of that fruit tree in about a six inch spacing in the circumference around that tree. And those daffodils will suppress the grass so you won't even have to edge around that tree the next year. So even if you're not planting fruit trees, now's the time to plant your bulbs. And even if you're not planting bulbs, now's the time to plant your trees. Why not plant the boat at the same time? That's right. And now is the time to get your order in for our garlic bulbs because those are selling out fast. They're not shipping them yet, but they are taking orders and in fact they are filling their orders ahead of shipping. Now, real quick reminder to everybody, if you don't have any camouflage paint and whatnot, set your money aside because we are coming up to the camo paint sale of the year. The day after Halloween. That's right. All the cool things. Yeah, face paint, grease paint, you know, green paint. Yeah, yeah. Everything will be really cheap. Even white. But it's two months out, so I will remind people between now and then. Sixty days before the day. Oh, they had Halloween stuff out here a month ago. Yeah, well, you know my opinion on that, Dad. Halloween, when I was growing up, yeah, it was a fun day for candy and whatnot, but We never saw the degree of Halloween, I don't know, Halloween versions of Christmas trees with candles and, you know, doing the whole Wiccan thing with the skulls with the candles on the tree, which is more actually traditional for as far as the Wiccan festival goes if you're celebrating the Wiccan thing, you know, having the skulls with the candles and everything. Yeah, but you're supposed to get the skull from the guy you put inside the basket and, you know, cook to death. Well, you may be seeing more of that right around Ann Arbor land than the rest of us do. We're just seeing all of the standard plastic pumpkins and things like that, the standard brick-a-back. Quite ridiculous though, two months out, come on guys. Two months out and so much of it, it takes up as much space as a Christmas decorations would. And what's interesting is it's all computers, why that's happening. All these companies have surrendered themselves to computer programming. and it's not always a space island. I would love to agree with you, unfortunately, with mom working at Myers-Away, she is. I've had a chance to talk to some of the managers, and well, we can't order that now because the computers won't let us order that now. We have to order it then, because our computer program tells us that we have to order it then. Well, somebody made a few of them tell them the computer now. Management has surrendered themselves to the software. Yeah, to the software, because the software recommends that they do it then, they have to do it then. Right. And if you try to get them to do it out of that window, They own the brain fart. The management doesn't know how to do things manually. They fired all their management several years ago and it's never been fixed. Let's put it that way. There has to be a special order mechanism. Somebody at HQ has decided to advance Halloween. I guess maybe that's a vacuum effect. Maybe that's because they canceled back to school. I'm sure that there is a process there, but like dad was saying, the managers who knew the process were all executed. Yeah, and the ones that took their place were the managers that they were bringing up that, you know, well I'm just going to teach them enough so they won't steal my job, and now they don't know how. But then they were executed. So there's a third wave now, they have no clue, and I have no idea where anything is, and they're still desperately trying to worship the computer. But they have no idea how the thing was set up. Anyway guys, we're past the top. Okay, Natchez Shooter Supply seems to have CCI primers. You won't like the price, but they claim to have them in stock. NatchezSS.com. NatchezShooterSupply.com. CCI primers. Very good. And again guys, check them out, see if it hits the wallet, we'll go from there. Quartermaster Friday coming to an end. Again, Bullets, Beans, Basketball, Bibles, Vanettes, you name it, we're supposed to have it in inventory. We've got to be able to manage it. The weekend's coming up here, it's gonna be busy busy to say the least. God bless the Republic. Death to the New World Order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. We are on a march for day and night. And we've survived Yucky Kippers. It's Friday the 13th and so far, now they still have hours left, but so far we've survived Yucky Kippers and Friday the 13th. But I like Kippers. Oh yeah, the good ones that can't be left. One of the few things the Brits ate that I like. Thank you BK. We can breed them in aquaculture. There we go, exactly. We'll see you in a bit guys, thank you.