September 11, 2013
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1h 3m
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2013
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Mark Koernke and Don Betcher discussed Secretary of State John Kerry's apparent cosmetic surgery and facial changes, analyzed various firearm designs including the Crossman Mark I .223/12-gauge combo rifle and emerging bullpup over-under rifle designs, reviewed California's pending anti-gun legislation including magazine confiscation bills, and conducted an extended segment on edged weapons and fighting knives, comparing folding knives like the SOG Flash II to traditional fixed-blade designs and discussing proper carry techniques and historical blade designs.
- john kerry
- cosmetic surgery
- crossman mark i rifle
- 223 12-gauge combo
- bullpup rifle
- california gun laws
- magazine confiscation
- fighting knives
- sog flash ii
- buck knife
- blade carry techniques
- second amendment
- weapons wednesday
- ar-15
- folding knives
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In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money is spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate. And your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold you trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame You've taken Satan's number You've traded in your name You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children will be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the mist from whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each God given right we only watch him tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free? And good evening, ladies and gentlemen. This is the first, well, it's the only hour of the evening in Telferport. Sorry about that. It's been a busy day. We've been run, run, running. I'm Mark Corky. And I'm Don Betcher. Liberty Tree Radio dot 4 AMG dot com around AM and FM Microstations, CB Bay stations and alternate technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska. Good afternoon to the Aleutians. We're in the Hallmark, New American, Eastern Seaboard from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida. From the bottom of Florida across the arc of the Gulf of Mexico, headed to Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas, Oklahoma, big jungle Nebraska where the three-eyed nuclear cows are chewing over top of those nuclear arsenals below them and the radiation just... seeps into everything. Oh well, also reaching Wyoming where the third, the fifth, the pit and our friends on the left side of the state rebroadcast for us, oh, in the valleys, the seven sisters plus there on the left side. They're the only radio in the valley. Each one of the radios, well at least now you can use your car radio again, your regular AM and FM. How do you like that? And you're listening to the Intel report and a whole lot more. Wyoming, congratulations. Colorado, big congratulations to the bums are out on the street and don't let that door hit you in the butt anyway the civil war continues in Colorado waving the left coast where Feinstein is in vomit since Richard filled across the landscape and Like John Kerry with his Botox injections jaw modifications and Twilight Zone look there's another one there Feinstein Whoa? Hold is she take a look at the stretch out you know the drum type face with the stretched out modified skin texture there. Yeah. The reason it's from California. Yeah. Turning back to the east, we sweep across Plains Leap over the burgeoning banks of the Mississippi, London, the Smokies slash the Blue Ridge, where the restaurant crews, grandma teams, OK teams, the Ma Bell Grammar Consortium bring us the Golden Spike. Many hands make for a light work. Million. Pityco Junction's Don. What is the date today and what is his special day? Well, Mark, it is the 11th day of September, year of our Lord 2013, also known as 9-11-13. touched on that earlier in the day. So there's other things we're going to do. We're going to take this here magazine and put it in the magazine well, you know, the clip in the clip hole, and I'm going to touch that slide release and wow, it jumped forward. That's a hot gun. Now there's one in the chamber. I dropped that magazine because I like to carry a full mag and I push one down, you know, one being a cartridge, complete bullet, powder primer and case. And now it's in the top of the magazine and the magazine is in my hand. And now the magazine is back in a magazine well and we can call it weapons Wednesday for sure. because the perimeter is secure and there's plenty more where that came from. And that means we can offer equal opportunity coercive force for everything, well, let me, we'll be right running to that's a problem child. I would point out a couple things here real quick. It's Weapons Wednesday but you know I want to thank Henry for posting a little article that was done by somebody else about the Kerry situation. Guys, If you've seen any of these Cary images, it's like, what is he got? A meat puppet double or something? Now that may still be the case. A great way to find another corpse to put in Cary's place. Cary was a wrinkled prune. I mean, it's just, he's old. He's getting old. He's 70 years old. Sorry guys, we get old, we wrinkle. Yeah, they all are. They're all the leftover stale potatoes. Yeah, the stale potato chips are just the stale potato chips. But here's the thing, embrace it. You know what? You're not 29. You're not 30. You're not 25. If you're 70 years old, instead of being proud of it, there's some weird stuff that goes on in some of these twisted sister brains. Well, Carrie showed up, would look like a couple of black eyes, and looked like his nose was broken or something. Well, turns out, he's been ongoing with some, obviously, systematic plastic surgery. Well, as one person pointed out, there's two, and actually there's two characters that he looks like. He either looks like a Odo from Deep Space Nine, Star Trek, which he does. He really does. If you look at it, if that was the image that he was looking for, he actually got it. And Don, if you haven't seen these pictures, I mean, there's a couple of shots where they just had him yapping to somebody overseas and it was a side shot and it looks totally alien from the side. Now, the other thing is everybody forgets the movie, The Mask. Remember the character in the mask, bald head when he took the hat off, etc. Well, the square jaw and the bulking out of the jaw that they did with Kerry, apparently their argument is that even with the way his speech pattern has changed, that they've moved his jaw. Now, I remember back in the 90s when Kerry got his new dentures, and that's something that I noted right away. It's like there was a change in his speech construction then and it got crisped out a little bit because it was you know I think going it went the other way where the teeth were tired and Whatever they did with the new dentures. He got a nice briny briny, you know shiny set of oversized alligator teeth Okay, whatever they used now that was step one well He's not been satisfied with that so what they did is number one probably They argued that they moved his jaw that they've stepped his jaw for a little bit now that is is a lot of construction and you have to be out of a circle for a little bit for a lot of what they're doing with that. But the argument is with the bite and the tooth the way it's lining up, but that's part of what created the problem here with the way he looks and how he's talking. Part of that could be is they've got new dentures, Dad, that are permanent where they drill it into your jaw. Right, oh yeah, that's possible. But the thing is that the face itself, he's got the Oto look down 100%. The nose is all wrong. And in reality, while Kerry's always had a boxy rectangular face, typical for the East Coast around the Connecticut and Massachusetts area, which if you look you'll find take a look at the Kennedy's take a look at the lower jaw from the upper from the lower lip to the chin and the distance you know the specs it's not strange if you're amongst other people who have the same physical characteristics I've talked about this before with genetics with tribes over in the Middle East or anywhere in Africa the people know the difference you know people who are lame and on Prozac may not have any you know receptors and be able to evaluate But if your life depends on paying attention to your surroundings and who's near you with a spear, you get real good at identifying people who aren't with your tribe. Hey, that's not one of ours. I can tell from a distance the earlobes are too long, the chin is too square. He's with the Ookabaluka tribe, not with the Unkawunka tribe. I think we need to use our... I need to use a pang on him. Okay, so Kerry is the same thing. He looks really Twilight Zone-ish. Oh, we're getting rained heavy again. We stepped inside just in time, didn't we? Anyway, what's interesting about this is just the looks. And Don, if you haven't seen it, get into the internet, go to From the Trenches World Report, and scroll back through what Henry's posted. It may be off the primary score. It's in the history now. But there are several other articles out there, guys. Or just take a look. Secretary of State Kerry and the latest images. He doesn't look right. Now, obviously he's had the face stress routine, but I think Botox for the lower end. And it's really, it doesn't look even anything like his younger pictures. There are pictures of him when he's younger, and he did have more of an Oto-esque image before he started to get older. Not much, but some. This has gone the other extreme, where like a lot of these mutilators, and that's really the correct term the guy put in the article, these mutilators, they're not doing it for themselves. They're doing this because they have some other agenda which is usually chasing after something in the district of criminals that's cheap and available and if you smooch them enough you get lots of it. Anyway, well in theory, might get lots of disease too. That's the only thing that makes any sense with this because anybody who knows him is like dude you look bad He's like it'd be like whoa dude. What did you do to yourself man? And that's what I'd be asking what the hell did you hit because I've been arguing that he looks like you know he just got smacked with a 2x4 and they pulled the board away real fast and that's when they took the picture and But looking at all the other images now, it's like, oh no, this is a very permanent, this wasn't just a happenstance image. This is like his permanent configuration until such time as everything starts to sag, droop, or the scar tissue starts to separate. See, that's another thing nobody talks about. When you do this, you create scar tissue along major forms of both the muscular structure and the outer epidermis, you know, the dermis itself, the skin. Well guys, you've got scars on you right now. Take a look at them. How do they look when they start to get old? What happens to them? Why did it become more pronounced? There's a couple of things that happen, not the least of which is if you can avoid making scar tissue or cuts in major tissue, this includes muscle and especially the lower subcutaneous tissue. Remember that you have capillaries that are all connected like the little branches of trees. And I can show you, I've got a gack from years ago that was on one of my feet on the side of my foot where all the little veins are. I can show you the log backup of material that is built up in like varicose veins, but it's not. It's kind of a rusty color. But I can make out all the little capillary lines. It's because debris has built up where that blood flow doesn't exist. Now, when you do this with all these other configured constructions and they start slicing across healthy tissue that had no business being cut, that's what's going to develop over a period of time. It eventually is going to come back to bite you in the arse. Yeah, for the short term you get the, if you perceive it as pretty, you get that effect, if that's what I guess you wanted was odo, but in the long run there's a lot of stuff that's going to come back to bite you. So the only option is you keep having to suck the stuff together by cutting out more healthy tissue. That's why they have to keep going back and stretching the drum more but when they do they have to stretch it utilizing that same scar tissue area and the long-term effects I've never really talked about here, but I had this discussion with a doctor years ago at Kresge Research at U of M because I was just talking about stuff because they do surgery where they reconstruct. They do phenomenal, don prosthetic surgery on people, you know, to make fake parts for them. And I asked him, I said, you know, if you cut like that, you cut again and you cut again, aren't you creating a deeper and deeper scar that's less likely to heal? And he goes, oh, yeah, that's one of the things they don't really want to talk about. See, it's one thing to get bit once because you couldn't help it. You know, you get chopped up in a battle, you get hit by something and you have to get put back together. You can't stop that. But intentional carving like this, where in reality with muscle tone, you know, with actually a little exercise or, you know, natural effort, you can come up with at least a percentage of what you need without looking really strange. And Carey, I don't know, there's no sense in whatever the hell he's thinking about, because he went right down through the math formula. He's got that seat until he dies, as far as the seat goes. He'll die there and mold in the chair. He might die in the chair and sit there for six months and then not realizing he's dead and let him keep the job. Yeah, well you know or just even if he did even if he was a wrinkly prune it wouldn't make any difference We've seen this before he's already run for president ain't gonna happen again unless somehow they're telling him that maybe he'll be a you know presidential contender way after old bummers gone But I just brought this up for a reason because this is an example of The kind of weird nutcases you've got there are these desperate forever young punks from you know back in the day Don't trust anybody over 30 and now they're trying to look at and it's way past 30 time guys You know what I mean? It really is. But again, because of the insulted age, they are now fearful because they have created that as the agenda nowadays to insult those who have age. But age creates, you know, of course survival with age means experience and experience helps to develop wisdom. Sometimes. Sometimes. Not always. There's some people that will be around for a long time are still just as dumb as a box of rocks and luckier as the day is long. That's all there is to it. Wow. He should be dead. Wow. He should be dead again. Whoa Hey stay near him. Yeah, how come he's not I can't figure that one out Anyway, there's something here. I'm looking at I'm trying to figure out what the hell it is and I'm curious but Before I go there. I've brought up something in the chatroom Don and you might recall this several years ago we had a company that was over on the Mississippi Valley over in Arkansas, another one that was in Missouri, that were offering a very unique firearm. And for everybody out there, it was, again, the, it's the Crossman Mark I .223 12-gauge shotgun combo. Now when I say combo, the first thing that most people would be thinking about is going to be a over-under shotgun, like 12-gauge upper .223 under or whatever caliber. There's Rossi built these. They actually built them as the, what was it, the M6 survival rifle. Everybody forgets that. The reason Rossi, or not Rossi, originally was Marlin built them, and there's a bunch of these in Marlin, Rossi made the copy. Marlin built it and it was actually put into the B-52 bombers and also the tankers and other planes as part of their survival kit for their lifeboats. Now there's a lot of other guns that eventually replaced that and they purchased and experimented with different designs. The later model actually was built by Charter Arms. It was the Skeletized all metal .22, .410, upper lower. Very simple very crude so easy to anybody could build it we actually could build one right now if you had a copy we could crank them out by the thousands all day if you had a small workshop garage you could be building them right now guys in fact it would be a priority that's another gun anyway the the savage slash the Marlin model was an over-under conventional, just a top break. Well, we're not talking about that. This gun, the Mark I, one gentleman had about 57 of these, and I don't know what happened to the company. But the gun actually, everybody had got it, was quite satisfied with it. We mentioned it actually because we mentioned it on the air, they sold out of every rifle they had. Presently that gun is going for about $1,300, as low as $1,100 down to as high as $1,300. Back when we originally got everybody to buy it, they were a couple hundred dollars a piece, about $270 or so. So they've done nothing but appreciate in value, surprise. The 223 component, while this is a pump system, the 223 uses a standard AR-15 magazine. Actually there's some pretty good images out there for anybody looking to try and understand what we're talking about. And you'll find that what's really neat about this thing is it was a solution gun. 12 gauge, 12 gauge. Oh, you need a rifle. .223. Boom, .223. Boom, .223. Wait a minute. Back to the shotgun. Cob-bump, cob-bump, cob-bump. If you wanted to, you know, kind of saturate a target or blow some door handles off, you know, stuff like that. So in reality, envision it. If you don't have anything right in front of you, you can do a picture. Envision basically a .223 in place of the M203 grenade launcher. underneath another weapon system, in this case a shotgun. Okay. So it was a neat idea. It was not a bad concept. However, there's something else I'm seeing here, and I'm trying to figure out what the hell it is. It has an all plastic or metallic, or forgive me, plastic, not metallic, buttstock, and it looks to be a light rifle of some kind. I'm going to find out more about this in a minute. You know, when you're searching for one thing, you run into something else. So it's rather interesting and again I don't see any particulars. This is really bizarre about what they're doing here with this particular design and what I'm seeing. I'm going to have to either it's a stock assembly which I don't think so. It might be a Ruger 10-22 hull. You know there's a lot of look-alikes. But anyway the Krosman, that particular rifle is an interesting design. Pistol grip rear The shotgun component itself, the whole system was a modular assembly. Kind of bulky for some people, but the people who picked them up were pretty satisfied with it. I don't have any other particulars on what all was going on with the design or what happened to the company and that's what I'm curious about. I'm gonna have to do some research but if anybody else has any ideas or any information on what happened to the company that was making these. Now the Batfaggots had to know they were produced and they were approved for production. This rifle is you know quote-unquote street legal and that the barrel links are all correct. It's a fixed solid stock which I really like. And again, high rider type, iron sights, something that was really becoming popular. Remember Don, back when the Mosberg combat shotguns came into play with the high ghost sights? So it has a lot of features that could be identified on other weapons. In many ways it does look like the Mattel 7 from back in the 60s. Oh, you don't remember the Mattel 7? It's 7 guns! 7 guns! 7 guns in one! So this is kind of like that idea. Again, It is interesting that it conforms to a number of other issues from the era when it was originally designed. There is a pistol grip but it has a cross rib that was cast in that goes from the base of the pistol grip up to just underneath where the comb of the stock starts. Which in a way I would even take off the old symbol and say, well I would cut that off the weapon. It is like, nah, I would leave it right where it is. It strengthens the design. And again, once it's there, it's there. The design obviously worked. Leave it in place and work with it. See if there's something else you might be able to use it for or apply it to. Anyway, if anybody's got any other particulars, I know in the chat room I planted a seed and a couple other people followed up on it. Very good. So, go ahead, color. Hey, this is Jay Steve from Pennsylvania. Yeah, I'm somewhat familiar with that particular rifle. I had actually suggested back in 2002. Right, yeah. Oh, we've got, do we still have you? We think we're losing, I think we're losing you there. You seem to be breaking up. Just try again. Can you hear me now? There we go, we can hear you now. You've turned your, you're upside down, you're hanging the phone sideways, and the connection has been made. Go ahead. The, uh, I had suggested to one of my soldiers actually buying one of those because, uh, he lived in Pennsylvania, and it's a manually operated action, and, uh, He actually bought it, loved it. He said it was everything he needed. He wasn't a guy that wanted to buy a bunch of different rifles for different types of hunting. Were you aware that Savage is making the combination gun again? No, go ahead, please. Tell us about it. Well, I just happened to see one at a Gander Mountain. The only one I saw was a .22 long rifle over a .410, but it seems to be mostly polymer now. But it's along the same lines as the original .24, the M24 that Savage made for years. It's relatively light. I didn't really i'm not gonna say that maybe the quality workmanship was was all i great picture typical polymer guns nowadays but it is definitely options that springfield armory and six is no longer being made is this the s w one uh... you mean it is as far as the savage rifle yeah i was curious about that is it's in what caliber The one I saw was .22 long rifle 410. I'm not sure if they're doing what they did before where they're making a .22 mag as well. I didn't see anything bigger than the .410, but hopefully they'll start making it like they did. My first rifle was a .223 or .20 gauge, and that was the best rifle in the world for any type of hunting. Well the reason I bring it up is because I found this this weapon off the wall here that guys it's a double barrel over under It's a bullpup design you open up the buttstock and load the weapon from the rear The upper the front hand guard on the pistol grip is a wrap-around kind of like a lever only it's perpendicular to the rifle and You actually work the guard. I just watched the action of here. I was trying to figure out why in the hell have I seen this before? But I haven't actually this is something that's fairly new or again It's been just off to the side, but it is a rifle double barrel rifle over under as a picatinny rail raised rail It's contour plastic cast for the body whatever they're using I'll find out more But what's fascinating is if the price is reasonable This weapon has a lot of applications. We've talked about sentry removal or we've talked about again, for somebody who's looking for a light placement rifle, if it's cheap enough and it should be cheap, this thing should not be expensive. Chances are though, it's a stupid price. But it is a neat little design. It's a bullpup. It basically, the lever up front cocks, I assume, cocks and locks the weapon is what it does. And you can mount any kind of optics. You could use night vision on top, any optics, even a slight set of iron sights. It's a short rail, but you could even put another rail on top of the other rail. You know that trick we've talked about? And add whatever you want to it and mount it however up and down the rail you want to so that it fits your person. But it's called the SW1. And there's a video on YouTube, Four Rounds from SW1. That's F-O-U-R space R-O-U-N-D-S space from F-R-O-M. And then it's capital S, capital W, 1. I don't have any more particulars but there's a little shot showing the rifle, a back shot of it. And like you said, basically you've got the Rossi Centerfire Rifles mentioned here, the matched pair of youth, 20 gauge 22 or the 223 and 22. They made those in any number of combinations. They made 410, they made 20 gauge. they made for the shotgun. I don't know if they made the 12s, they probably did because at that time they were full spectrum. And then the lower could be 22, like you said, 22 Magnum, that's another one that people, you know, again, would actually be a good choice. With the price of 22 going up where it did, and 22 Magnum pretty well staying where it has been, but still pricey. Once 22 start creeping up to where it is, the 22 Magnum becomes desirable again. And 22 Magnum was originally tested. They tested three rounds. They tested the 223. They tested 22 Magnum. And they had a 30 caliber assault that they tested for the AR-15 originally. The argument was the government did not want to rim fire a round, but that was when they were testing the AR-15 for the Air Force. originally it was supposed to be an Air Force Rifle. They wanted a round that would kill a person dead dead dead or hurt them really bad but if it splashed into a four million dollar aircraft you could fix the damage with a pop rivet. That was the agenda. That was why that .223 round was originally pushed. It was pushed from the Air Force Inn, not from the Army. And the tests with the .22 Magnum were totally successful and if you think about it .22 Magnum is in 40 grain jacketed and what they went to was a .223 .55 grain projectile. So they had reasonable energy for airport and air force ranges for troops who don't use the weapon that often and for the air police that would be defending the aircraft. The logic was a guy with a Molotov cocktail could be mowed down with a several rounds from an Air 15 with a .22 mag. just as well as a .223 but they opted out for the .223 for center fire and for more energy just a little more but not much again at most of the intermediate to short ranges they planned on using it then they gave it to the army duh oh well that bullpup you were talking about it sounds familiar I believe there was a Merkell out of Germany I believe made something similar to what you were just describing. I'm not sure I've never seen it made by anybody else, but I remember seeing it a couple years back. Like I said, it was MERKEL, I thought was the name of either the manufacturer or the distributor. I knew it was German, but like you said, I'd imagine it would be cost prohibitive if it was coming from that particular avenue. Interestingly enough, now they do show another video of the its OU rifle SW Steinkamp molding LP. It is a plastic gun. There is an actual Niseria diagrams out there. It shows the butt plate opens to reveal the chamber. You insert the two rounds, close the butt plate, and then there's a cocking handle assembly and a double trigger system, guys. A dual trigger like on the old, oh, come on, just like the old Henry rifles, you know, the Haughman's, the Muzzler Henrys, and the Hawkins. It's got a double set trigger system, which I think is rather interesting. Plus, the front cover, the front hand guard is not a hand guard. It's actually a cocking slash safety lever action. So it's an interesting design. I'm going to see if I can find out more. But if it's, the thing is to look at it and go, hey, how can we make this dirt cheap? If it's a double shot, you know, plastic molded, it shouldn't be any more expensive than a high point carbine. And high point carvings originally started out at $127. Remember that? Then jumped to $150. Now they're at about $207 to $250, right around there. So the same is true. I would put this in the same category as the high point in terms of its design. It's plastic castings, lightweight, double barrel, apparently in, well, I'll try to see if they have it in what per calibers. Don't say, oh, wait a minute. Well, here we go 8 by 7 57 IRS 8 by 68 s 9 by 9.3 by 74 are now that's one of those oddball year all these are oddball euros the first three that 9.3 by 74 are though is being brought in by preview partisan and That is a beast cartridge to get hit with it's a straight case, but it is a pump. It's a pounder The other thing they also 75 isn't it? Well, in the 9.3x74R, I believe looking at that, it's more of a straight case. There's a bunch of 9mm or 9.3mm rounds that are unique to European loads and typically were used in the multi-barreled top break German shotguns, shotgun rifle combos. Yeah, they also offer this in 20 gauge and 12 gauge which makes it interesting in that you get a double barrel bullpup shotgun that shouldn't be all that expensive. But since it says it's made in Germany, I would throw that out the window. I would say it's not cheap. That's just me. Look at all the 22 lookalikes they brought in here about the last two years. It have all disappeared. Remember that the Germans bring them in and then all of a sudden notice they're all gone guys and no more have come in. And one of the reasons is because what we said, we pointed it out on the air, you know, the .22 was cheaper to shoot. An AK in .22 that's exactly like the AK you'll be carrying means you can train, train, train, train, train, and if you ever do get into a war, who says I'm going to retire it for training? I'd take that .22 and put it into somebody's hands and tell them, pepper that son of a bugger. Dump 30 rounds. And that was one of the reasons a bunch of the HK copies were taken off the market and then HK re-put them back out on the market after the licensing was squared away. Well, that happened with the Airsoft. There are no HK Airsoft out there because they've been attacking anybody who was making their HK 91 or HK 93. If you go to all the Airsoft sites, guys, you'll notice the same thing has happened there. Anyway, tell you what, we still got Don with us, Don. Yes, all right. I was gonna say we didn't lose time anything else caller jump in there, please No, I'm good. Have a good evening. I'm out. Thank you for the input. Yeah again the the weapon systems we're talking about are oddball unique to say at least at $1200 it's up there with an AR-15 right now but this over under combination back when we originally were pointing these out I believe the gun was as low as a hundred and seventy dollars for a little bit because nobody knew anything about him nobody was buying them we brought it up on the air they jumped by a hundred dollars per gun which still at $270 for an over under combo system like this was not a bad deal and they sold out even at almost $300. Well then they turned around and now they're up to around $1,200 to $1,300 per weapon down if you can find them. So again they're out there and they're being offered but there's a new price on the block. Another thing I'll mention and guys remind everybody California has a whole bunch of anti-gun bills in motion right now. This includes a magazine confiscation bill. Now you heard me right about my question as I we were discussing this earlier today after we got off the air How would you enforce a confiscation bill on mags without going house to house? Yeah, I mean what are you gonna do because there it was a confiscation. It doesn't say you know just banning it says ban and confiscate So everybody needs pay attention. That's not the other one There's a whole flurry of them too numerous to mention so you might want to do a quick search, but if you're out in California this is all stuff that's been introduced just in the last couple of days and it's in high gear so if they're going to bum-rush something through they'll snag and tag it to some other piece of legislation that they just gotta have. and all of a sudden it's like, well where'd that band come from? How did this happen? I didn't know! And again, amaland.com, amaland.com. They have a scroll, an ongoing blog, you'll find a bunch of the information there that you need. So again, it's a news service that's a pro shooter, it gives you all the NRA information, but gives you all the other information on stuff going on around the country. And it's a good one to keep track of. Anyway, Don, what else is jumping off the wall there, sir? Please. Well, I want to do this again because we do it every now and then and we talk about etched weapons. And, you know, by the time if you're reaching for a knife, that probably means that you don't even have, you know, your bang-bang sidearm. But you know what, you guys? Oh, Mark, did you hear? Ha! There's a sidebar on this here little bit of conversation. A woman was arrested today in an airport. She tried to take a box cutter on an airplane on September 11th today 2013 Now with that in mind, you know the big big talk about a little while ago Well, we're gonna start to let knives back on board airplanes and hockey sticks and golf clubs and other murderous weapons You know not spear guns though. They're just they're just smaller than golf clubs or you know hockey sticks At any rate, I want to talk about edged weapons for a little while. You know, you got them K-bars and a lot of people got a, you know, the basic marine knife, the World War II fighting knife, and it went on into Korea and Vietnam too. By the time Vietnam came around, that blade was a little longer, wasn't it? Think about it. Look at the history. By the time they were issuing a fighting knife in a Vietnam era, it was a bit of a longer blade. And the knife was standard across the industry, across the military. you know, oh, oh, oh, we're going to put those words together, might as well run out military industrial complex. But I want to talk about folders again for a little while. You guys, as another sidebar, you know catalogs are going to be a thing of the past. Trees are going to be happier. But you know, you're not going to get catalogs in the next little while. You're, the manufacturers, the suppliers are going to count on you going on the internet and perusing their product and purchasing said product. You know, I could have said purchasing same. And it would have been shorter, but now he's just talking just to talk. But so let's keep going here. You guys, that fighting knife that doesn't fold takes up a whole lot of space, doesn't it? It'd be real hard to get on an airplane. Not that I'd want to take one on an airplane, but you know, it'd be real hard to get it to places where that folder might go in your pocket. Now, on occasion, even in the city sometimes, but not nearly as much, in the country you'll still see somebody walking around with a straight blade, non-folding knife in the sheath on their belt. And, you know, well it's not concealed and it's just a matter of how long is it, and there's that, you know, three inch, three and a half inch, whatever it is, I'm not certain if that's even a law. But I've seen some people walking around with a Oh, blades that are non-folders in the sheath on their belt, and I'm certain that blade is at least four, maybe five inches long. Now that's getting to be five, that's getting to be truly a fighting knife, a five inch blade. The other definition of a fighting knife, you guys, is a Dirk. No, we're not talking about Dirk the actor, we're talking about a blade that sharpened on both sides of the blade. That is the basic definition of a Dirk. That is a true fighting knife. It will slash one way and slash the other just like Zoro. You could draw that Z on somebody. The inside of the thigh, the inside of the arm, and across the neck. Like that. Faster than I can go... Cut, cut, cut! That is a stan... That's a high form. Although I would say I started to and it is a standard practice for, again, It's a basic technique. It becomes mastered. It's then an advanced technique. Cut the inside of the thigh, cut the inside of the arm, and cut across the neck in basically one Z motion. Might I continue this? Go right ahead, please. Yeah, Don. What you got going, George? Well, speaking about short knives, isn't it true in Japan that only the peasants can have a short knife with the samurai's? Got to have the long, long swords. Oh, I'm not certain, but it sounds about right. Because, you know, the warrior class can have whatever it wants, and the peasants don't hardly get enough even to stop the long blade. That sounds about right. Yeah? Well, I heard about somebody, one of the militia men in Texas, he sits there and goes, he carries shireteens with him, or Chinese stars. Would they be any effective for anything? I don't know how they would look real good at being effective, but I don't know on a battlefield situation having shurikens on your person. Oh, now, shuriken, you're talking about star, a throwing star. Yeah. I don't know it. The right tool for the right job. In the right situation, hey, it might work real well. It's designed to either slow down or hamper. There is something to remember about the shurikens that the ancient Japanese slash Chinese used. They were coated in poison. Traditionally poison. That's why they were also carried in a particular way. And the idea was that as a quiet weapon, at the very least, quick incapacitation was the objective. And slowing the target down is the idea whereas in this case, you know, Don go ahead continue what you're talking about there, please. Thank you Again that straight that non folding knife might be a little bit hard just to walk You know, you can put a folder in your pocket be it a pen knife grandpa took a pen knife to church You see where I'm going with that grandpa walked into the police station with a pen knife in his pocket You know able to sharpen the oh back when we had pencils instead of computers or ink pens even But now knives have grown up a bit since grandpa's time and not every fighting knife is a buoy knife. With that in mind you guys, we were talking about catalogs for a moment and they're going to be a thing of the past but go to Kershaw, K-E-R-S-H-A-W and they're a knife manufacturer and supplier and you'll see knives from around the world in the virtual catalog on the internet. from Kershaw and there's other places you can go and see knives on the internet. But I just bring that one up because I have a Kershaw catalog here. So it's, you know, we work with what we got, right? Now with what we've got, I have in my hand here and we've talked about folders before and I'm going to continue this thought line because some folders are better than others. Not like, well, again, some folders are better than others. As example, there's a lot of guys out there got that buck knife in their pocket. And, oh, most of 30, 35 years ago now, in the Easy Rider, that was a motorcycle magazine, it's still published, there was some pretty neat things done with some wooden buck knives. They were carved down on the sides till you could get that blade between finger and thumb and if you worked that spring enough, you can get that blade between finger and thumb and flick that blade open and it locks. But now therein lies the rub, and Shakespeare never saw a buck knife, but I'm going to bring him right into this arrow when we talk about that. Therein lies the rub. That's Shakespeare. Wow, that's snooty stuff there. But you guys, when it comes to a folder, get your buck knife out if you've got one. This is an open challenge. Get your buck knife out, and I'll give you a moment to reach in your pocket or walk over there and get it out of the drawer if you don't carry it with you, because, hey, Buck knife is one of the most popular knives in America, one of the most popular, if not the most popular folder that grown men carry in America. Now with that in mind, I would ask you to exercise extreme caution in the exercise that we are about to do because you're going to open that blade. If you open that blade, twix finger and thumb as described earlier and just flick it open, well that's pretty cool because now you're going in the right direction. But you know what? Grab that grip. as if you want to use it as a fighting knife. Now if you're going to use it as a fighting knife, you're probably going to go pokey-pokey with it, right? I'm not talking about Gumby's horse. I'm talking about stabbing and slashing your opponent. So with that in mind, grab that grip. Now turn it over in your hand so that the blade is the other way. Grab that grip. What's your little finger doing to that lock? Oh my gosh! Have we just discovered that really your buck knife isn't a real true fighting knife? Because real true fighting knives, it's really truly hard to get them to fold up in fighting conditions. You can beat them, you can bend them, you can stab, go pokey pokey and even stab Gumby's Pony with one and it's probably not going to fold up on you. Real true fighting knives. Let's go back to that Kershaw catalog and thumb around in there. Well, you're going to be on the internet bump around and push the buttons and scroll or do whatever it takes to go over and look at a knife called SOG, that Special Operations Group. It is a, that's the manufacturer. It's a SOG specialty knife. That's what it's described as, but it is also on the blade the SOG SOG Flash II. I have one of those in my hand. For a folder, I would call this a very acceptable fighting knife. One of the reasons why? Well, it has that peg across the blade and it's ambidextrous, like the ambidextrous safety for your 1911 or your M16, M15, the M16 pattern. You can put an ambidextrous safety on those so you can open it with your left hand or open it with your right or turn off, open the safety, make the gun live. Now this has a peg across, again the peg across the blade is on either side. I can touch that with my thumb and push it in a slight arc and that blade snaps open and is locked. And well, if you're in the Kershaw catalog now, in the virtual catalog, you'll see that that flash too lists for about $70. It is not a cheap knife. But I will, that's almost twice as expensive as a lot of buck knives, you guys. But here's another challenge. Lay your buck knife on the kitchen table, even if it's brand new. Lay your buck knife on the kitchen table open and take the tip of your finger, and now it's on the kitchen table, right? So that blade is running parallel to the kitchen table. Take the tip of your finger at the tip of that blade and lift up on the tip. How far does that tip travel? I tell you that the tip of this blade on this Flash II, this Special Operations Group knife travels less than 1 32nd of an inch. It is almost, it's not as steady as a folder as a shank knife, a, you know, from tip to hilt one piece. It's not that steady, but it is almost exactly the most steady folder I have ever held in my hand. Now again, I have it open. It locks in such a way that I have to pull a dinky little button back toward my little finger if I have the knife pointing from my elbow across my wrist, across my fingers, and then the blade pointing away down that line instead of like poke stab like the blade running so I can just touch the blade back up along my arm and hide it. There's another technique to carrying a blade to the fight right there. So the blade is hidden along your arm. But to get the most reach, you're going to extend that blade. Now, I can poke with this, I can pull, I can slash with this, and I am not going to manipulate this handle in such a way that I am going to unlock that blade. That is one of the keys if you're looking for a folding fighter. You want that blade to stay locked because, well, you don't have that buoy blade, do you? That buoy guard. This folder has two very nice finger notches that once you learn to concentrate and once you have that feel of where it is in your hand, it's going to be pretty hard for you to slide up onto the blade. That's what Jim Bowie is famous for, that block, to keep your hand from sliding onto the blade. As you go pokey pokey and start stabbing Gumby's horse, so that Gumby can't get away. But look for fighting knives you guys in the folding category that once it's open it is almost it takes a very deliberate motion to unlock the blade. Again you learned a lot about your buck knife tonight didn't you? I would say again the Kershaw catalog and that special operations group Knife it's called the flash 2 and it's not inexpensive. I am also aware that you know almost everything in the world should have a Country of origin on it, you know made in China made in USA made in Poland or Russia or Germany But there is no place on this knife that shows me its country of origin save for patent number six million nine hundred forty one thousand six hundred and sixty one That's the closest thing to a country of origin, an American patent. But if you're going to see a folder, you can put it in your pocket and it can go almost anywhere. A folder, we've talked about turning that half turn, that 180 degree turn, your foot closest to your opponent, making it your back foot. And in that time, your hand goes to your pocket and now it comes out. A folder, if you don't open it up right away, your opponent isn't even aware that there is a blade in the fight. a good folder like this once you are used to it as your hand is moving toward your opponent the blade comes open instead of the blade is open and your opponent is aware that he's fighting a knife now the blade the hand is moving toward your opponent the blade comes open and the knife strikes before your opponent is aware that you have a knife in your hand. Now that sounds horrible, that sounds terrible, that sounds devastating. All good things to do to your opponent. Make them feel horrible, make them feel terrible and devastate him. See how that works? Folders can sure come in handy and I thank you for that short time and Don's diatribe on folders this evening, Mark. It's something to look A good fighting folder is something to have in your pocket even if you've got that K-bar strapped to your leg. That's so macho. That's so macho. I know I purposefully mispronounced it. But you know what? That can hang up on crap as you're moving through stuff too, can't it? You know, divers. Generally, if a diver's going to strap a knife to his leg, it's on the inside of his thigh or it's on the inside of his calf. Your thigh you don't have to bend your leg to get to your knife You might get in a situation where you can't reach your knife if it's on your thigh or rather if it's on your calf so it it's a lot easier to get your knife out of your pocket than it is to reach to your thigh or reach to your calf and if it comes open like that so to speak the of a finger it's in the battle that fast isn't it if again Folders are highly concealable. That buck knife's been places where policeman and clergyman never expected be it mine, yours, your grandpa's, as mentioned earlier in the day, your father's. But buck knives aren't the superior fighting knife you guys, as demonstrated earlier in the hour. And if you're looking for a folder, again, It can come up in a flash. I don't use that tongue in cheek. That's the name of this one. Flash 2, because it just opens so fast. But once it's open, I trust this as good as a sharpened butter knife. It's not the image I'm trying to present here. A sharpened butter knife is shank to tip one piece. This knife, once it's open, feels as if it will never give way to fold in my hand at an unwanted time. The release cannot be accidentally manipulated to make this knife fold and injure me. I yield to you, Mark. Thank you. One of the things to remember is, again, placement of different blades on different points of the body is another thing that's policy. Notice, for instance, carrying a low blade somewhere around the ankle, a hip-bounded blade of whatever kind, typically your primary fighting blade, that goes back to traditional combat fighting in Western society. There are two techniques. One is to balance them out, blade on one side, pistol on the other. or Tomahawk on the other along with the pistol but in many cases the weapons were actually bunched because the strong arm could pick between the different weapons based upon threat so there are a number of different techniques carry techniques just like shoulder holsters versus hip holsters but also a high carry knife, not necessarily in the throat cutting position, a lot of guys who became in vogue to carry the blade upside down so you could reach over grab it and just pull it right out of the sheath. The reason that was stopped with air crews is because with pilots guys they were carrying them like that because that would be easier to grab the blade and pull it right out of the sheath and gravity sucks. Well the problem is when they would impact in during crashes the blade because the impact of something came up and jammed the base of that knife it would thrust over into the throat and the guy probably would have survived the bounce and the boom but having a convenient razor-sharp blade next to your neck in the proper position reinforced by strength and force of impact was terminal. Okay, so that was the reason you kind of see that disappear from the idea board after so many years. It's funny, it kind of cropped up. It was, oh, that looks cool. It's kind of like government military personnel hanging grenades by their pulp ends. Or pre-pulling the pins and leaving them in the pouch thinking that the the spoon was going to be kept in place by tension until the first one went off accidentally and the thrust of that expanded all the rest and set them off like a series of firecrackers. Oops. So just something to think about there. In the case of the different stations, the most important thing is to practice, to remember, to muscle memory where those devices are. That's a good point because you know even the way you put that folder in your pocket determines the way it comes back out, doesn't it? Exactly. If you put it in your pocket in a way that it comes out of your pocket naturally and springs to open, it beats turning it upside down in your pocket and trying to spin it around as you fumble with it to try to get it to become operational. Again, familiarity with your tools. and the right tool for the right job. Thank you, Mark. In fact, that's a more common issue too. How you place a... especially if you're looking at folders, but folders aren't the only issue. Even how a blade is placed into a universal sheath, because there are such things. The nylon sheath typically are universal, they're not blade specific. Most of your leather constructed sheaths are direction specific. And there's a number of reasons. Sometimes people got the idea they needed a curvature blade. Well, if you have a curvature blade and it's in the cleaver form, remember guys, the sheath has to accommodate that blade to clear the leather. So even though it's narrower at the hilt, it's thicker at the blade end, like a bolo blade. Well, the sheath has to accommodate that. Now take a look at the different designs. There are things that are attached to that that create other issues. It means that the system that secures the blade into place has to be reliable. If it isn't, then that can become a flopper and become burdensome to you also. So again, there are pluses and minuses to the different blade systems that have been generated. The bolo is typically to offer more energy when trying to hack or cut both as a utility blade for brushwork but also against people. If you remember in Braveheart, probably the best example of seeing a classic real hacking and chopping blade. Remember the one that looks kind of weird because it's thicker at the farther end, it's not the traditional cross type sword that everybody thinks knights carried. Well they did, a lot of those carried the royal swords, you know the errantry swords, but the sword you see a lot of the Irishmen carrying there and the Scots carrying there was a medieval can opener. It was designed to hack and chop by weight through the armor and if you'll notice there's a kind of a bevel to the end of the blade guys almost like a machete is what it looks like. Remember that? Take a look at Braveheart again. Well that was designed so that after you got a good chunk and whacked several times with it you took the end of that and literally that is how you used it like a can opener. And then you use the blade again to chop and hack some ore. So they have some lobster. Yeah. We get through all the other stuff and get to the soft chewy stuff on the inside. That's why dying as a knight really wasn't necessarily going to be a quick thing because if you were flopped on the ground and couldn't get back up and the infantry could get to you, guess what? They weren't going to let you back up if they could help it, but they also had to figure out how to get to you. So you'd have plenty of time to think about what their plans were. Think about it. Hack, chop, chop, hack, hack, hack, oh, can opener point. Get a spike in there! Get a spike in- No! Get me a spear! See how that works? So again, watch Braveheart. That was actually a very accurate demonstration. Of course, a lot of the blades, those are polymer blades that they use for, you know, again, a lot of the close-ups and, you know, for the battle scenes so people can get chopped. But there are both the mechanicals and the synthetics that they use. The mechanicals were correct blades. And that is the more common. But it wasn't saved. Typically those were recycled. They were, you know, they turned into something else. Metal wasn't wasted, just like metal is scrapped and used today. The blades that survived are the ones that were the pricier blades because they cost more, they were unique in design, and everybody seems to think that that's what everybody had to be carrying. Well, it's kind of like in the past here, you know, unless even the last 30 years and 40 years of firearms, the real fancy stuff is going to be kept in premium grade. The stuff that was field grade is kind of tired and then eventually wears out and disappears into the metal moth category, doesn't it? Not enough just a win and we've seen will what we don't like to retire weapons, but it happens anyway We're gonna retire something else. We got to leave the program. We're past the top I would advise you any any fighting night that is not a folder make sure that runs from pain to heal a full tang blade. That ain't going to bend on you and it ain't going to fold. And it can be applied and repaired as needed. External components that are added can be improvised with other replacements. But a solid shaft, a solid simple blade is going to serve you well. First of all, before we go any further, your number for Night Vision, Don, please. Hey, it's 231-796-8458. 231-796-8458. God bless the Republic. Death to the new world order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. But we are on the march. Both day and night. Ooh, Don, your number for Night Vision encloses, please. You'll be available in just a minute. 231-796-8458. Thank you, Mark. God bless you. God bless you, America. And the sun will always shine on the old Liberty Tree, tips the tall old tree and the strong.