September 6, 2013
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Mark Koernke discussed increased Russian aircraft activity over Michigan and potential foreign troop deployments at U.S. military facilities, particularly Fort Polk, Louisiana and Camp Grayling, Michigan. He emphasized the importance of civilian observation and documentation of military movements, aircraft, and personnel. The show featured extensive discussion of 1911 pistol parts and frame castings available from e-sarcoinc.com, including unfinished slides and frames that listeners could machine themselves. Koernke also promoted preparedness through surveillance equipment from dealextreme.com and made a year-end fundraising appeal for Liberty Tree Radio's operating costs.
- russian aircraft activity
- fort polk louisiana
- camp grayling michigan
- foreign troops
- militia training
- 1911 pistol parts
- frame castings
- civilian observation
- military surveillance
- preparedness
- liberty tree radio
- quartermaster
- permaculture
- gun parts suppliers
- constitutional rights
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I'm our car key one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories west, south, north, and central. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you were listening to us on... Liberty Tree Radio dot 4 mg dot com. We're on AM and FM microstations, CB base stations, and alternate technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska. We're in the Hallmark Network on Eastern Seaboard from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida. From the bottom of Florida across the arc of the Gulf of Mexico. Headed to Louisiana, Texas, Oklahoma, big chunk of Nebraska, a whole bunch of Wyoming to include both Pitt 3rd and 5th in our friends in the occupied slash Civil War state of Colorado. Waiting to the left coast where Feinsteinism vomits its wretched filth across the landscape. We turn back to the east, sweep across the plains, getting away from the stench, running at full speed, and still trying to follow us. Feinstein is overhead in a plain dripping spew as she heads back to the district of criminals. Ah, the smell. Oh, dodge that one. Another drip. Ah, yuck. Anyway, leaping over the burgeoning banks of the Mississippi, we land on the Smokey slash the Blue Ridge where the restaurant crews, grandma teams, okay teams in the mob build, grandma consortium of retired telecommunications workers do their part while my eyes are still watering from the Feinstein Stench dripping from the plane oozing out of the back yard. Well, anyway, it is a beautiful, it's been a very bright, clear, 6th of September, the 5th year of open Fabian Socialist and Soviet Socialist Occupation of America with a K 2013 Old Earth Calendar or Mayan Crazy Town Crazy Town Calendar, yes. Big time, big time Mayan Crazy Town Radio. Yeah, well, we don't think so. But, uh, uh, if you watch the actual aircraft traffic going on right now in your part of the country, Have you watched tic-tac-toe being played? And I'm not talking because of the chemtrails, people. I'm talking the fact that you can follow the aircraft activity. Have you been paying attention to the increased polar aircraft activity taking place? Anyone? We're in Michigan, which has one of the major flight channels that runs straight up over the pole to the other side of the planet. Strangely enough, a lot of additional Russian air traffic is taking place crossing this country right now. The normal cycle is first wave about 11 o'clock in the morning over mid-northern Michigan. And then the recycle, or the return flight, somewhere in the mid-afternoon to late afternoon in waves of four. Now, when we have beautiful clear days, and you actually still can have con or chemtrails, the problem is at extreme high altitude remember if you're thirty to forty thousand feet it takes a little while to drop guys. You don't just point the nose at the ground and sink forty thousand feet unless you're an airplane that's guided by an off aircraft controller who is trying to drive your plane into a target. Oops! After they've taken over and you can't do anything about it. If you're in a 757 or 767, you know like a 911. Anyway, point is that when you see an airplane at full altitude overhead, it would take about two good states for the thing to come down going on three big states for that aircraft to drop down to anywhere near what would be performance and landing altitude. for any kind of approach or again direction towards a ground objective. Well these aircraft aren't coming anywhere near the ground out to the horizon. So what I think is rather interesting is while we've got the stuff going on with Syria, supposedly the Russians and the Americans are grinding their teeth at each other, we have an increased amount of air traffic into the Russian sphere. and vice versa. Now typically in the past we know that these aircraft have landed in Chicago, but more often go all the way to Gulfport, Louisiana. So I would recommend that our Louisiana listeners pay attention to what's going on at Gulfport, Louisiana. The military base there is a lich pin for all the international and globalist activity and of course supports Fort Polk and an occupation UN site that is used and has been used to prepare to shoot Americans. It has been a place where they have practiced to go house to house to murder Americans and to confiscate property. So again pay attention to the air traffic inbound and outbound guys. They might put a fence around a site but the playing can't be missed if it's an anatov. You all get my grift? You know, it's real simple there. You see something like that coming in? Count them. ID the tail numbers. Pay attention to the aircraft. Watch to see who's who in the zoo. Back when the whole situation with Katrina took place, Russian personnel were landed right there at Gulfport from northbound aircraft. They were from the north. They actually passed right over Michigan. As we've said before, in fact, there's some people that are listening who were there on the tarmac and watched foreign troops get off along with a lot of other technology. So there's something in the works right now. Definitely the shysters have another plan in motion. Pay attention to the sights in the middle of the country because out to the horizon these aircraft do not deviate from the flight path that we have seen them operate in before. So we're looking at a consistent landing site under their control where they have all the boobies that are either foreign nationals that are hired to begin with or are spooks and kooks operating an aggressor force against the American people inside the United States. North Com is part of that treachery. So make no mistake about it, they're tied into it. But Fort Polk, Louisiana is a United Nations international training site. It is also a combat asset site for foreign troops inside the United States when the time comes. It's that simple. It's already cut and dry. In any given time, up to what, 14 or 16 foreign armies have been on site there simultaneously, all working for the global bankers. and practicing house-to-house search and seizure separation and categorization of men, women, and children, etc, etc, etc. Before we go any farther, I know we had a number of dings, could be just patient listeners, I understand that, but if we have any other callers, callers jump in there, please. I'll give you a moment and I'm not going to be able to pause because we don't want dead airtime. Go ahead, who do we have? Hey, Mark. Go ahead. This is me, Peter. You know, I think listeners should also be aware We kept pedal then specifically to mount the tilts. We seem to be very popular for foreign troops. We did a lot of training with foreign troops there. And I think they're very basic in Michigan. We are very popular for foreign troops too. They seem to want to do a lot of basic training there. That's where a few years ago Marine Corps units actually planned to do search and destroy missions against the Michigan militia. I think there's a few eyes and ears open all over the country. Exactly. Actually, it's for Camp Grayling, which was originally donated land only for use by the state militia. The original owner of Camp Grayling stipulated in a contract for the donation that under no circumstances were American, U.S. Army, or any other foreign forces to in any way, shape, or form utilize Camp Grayling. It was purely for Michigan militia training. Period. And in fact, this was brought up back in the 90s, but the case was not pressed. They tried to do everything they could to deflect it and drag it out, because this is part of a dead man's contract. In other words, it's a will. But it was part of the original arrangement under no circumstances were any foreign troops nor even the federal government to be operating at Camp Grayling. Camp Grayling was not a federal facility. It was designed as a militia facility for Michigan's militias only. So something that... Well, I mean, I mean, I don't know. I mean, it's very, you know, I was actually one of the minds that gave you the information on that. with the search and destroy mission. And also we had training set up with the British Royal Marines and some other units there. It's all kind of in the same time frame, the same idea of doing search and destroy missions against the Michigan militia and like forces. So it came fairly, yeah, that was the base that we did all the training with. And again, with this facility, one of the things that is if the discussion continues this weekend, this is something that can be pressed and it's a matter of law. Now, it's contract law and everybody knows it. Now, they'll try to wheedle their way. I guarantee they'll do everything they can to sidestep it, protract it, make it, you know, extend it as far as they can under the logic they can beat you up because you're paying for lawyers. What needs to be done is this needs to be done as a pro se case where the individual doesn't have to worry about fees. Just got to make sure that your team shows up whenever there's a court date and snag them to make sure they don't try to slide a date in without notifying you. which is why you have to have a team effort to do this. We've been successful in a lot of other projects, guys. It hasn't all been win-win for the other side. It's why we're all still here. There's been a lot of good people that have done good work. But at this, I, I, I, you know, the me, myself, and I stuff isn't going to hack it. It has to be a team effort. And that's one of the things that we have to emphasize. It's like a lot of the other stuff we've been seeing most recently here. We could be better at across the board at being able to keep track of what we see going on, but we need to use the tools that are in the toolbox as best of our ability. The one really interesting thing for the moment, for as long as these cell phones are in operation, as a packet radio, which is all they really are when you're texting, all you've got is an 800 meg packet radio in your hand. If you're not talking on it in your texting, that's packet radio. That's the old packet radio system. The only thing is your toy has gotten smaller because and your transceiver can have less power because we got more cell towers up there to help spy on you to keep track of where you are. But in reality, guys, using the text system and a who, what, where, when, a standard sit rep, There's nothing the enemy can do that we can't track moment by moment. We outnumber them, but we need to be better at communicating and following through in the process and them. Keep in mind most phones now have a camera so there's no excuse to if you see something not to take a picture of it. I don't care what the blurry picture get a picture. That's one of the things that is an issue. Go ahead go ahead meteor jump in there, please. That's it. I just wanted to point that out. you know i can't you know we don't have a operation i can't really i'm sure you know that that was my morning court unit i'm sure there's other up to fill the country very similar uh... that the poor troops in all the other all right through the front gate you know uh... that you know the main gate and you think a lot of these papers you can get on uh... you have a good thing without any problem i have been the caprilicate for some time But, you know, I did a lot of cold weather training and we'd have, you know, snowmobiles nearly brought us over and stuff. So, for those people that may live near the military base, that's one of these national forests or something that you can get on and, you know, set up, you know, a, it's a good practice set up at LOP. You know, start practicing. You just start counting cars, vehicles, types, taking on notes, personnel. even if they're not necessarily foreign troops because all that information if you've gone through any kind of military intelligence training, scout, sniper training, you need to understand how to just collect that data, start taking down the data, pay attention to details, so that when you do have a serious action, you will have everything prepared. Again, I would start practicing now and continue to practice. One of the tools that we used to do is to lay stuff out, randomly at a table and give ourselves 20 seconds to remember everything that's on the table. Different weapons, different types of gear, and keep on practicing. We would observe other Marine Corps units, other Army units, write down what they had. It's good practice. So again, practice now as if it's the real thing. Exactly. Again, the process of observation. This is the other reason for showing and actually demonstrating a lot of the gear and equipment. Either we're using it, we'll be using it, we'll be capturing it or whatever, but we need to be familiarized with it and know when we're looking at it a glimpse what we're seeing because we can ID the aggressor force this way. That's what we've talked about. What are they wearing? What equipment are they carrying? What type of weapon system? Does it look like something you've seen before? If so, where have you seen it before? The basic rule of when you look, when you're observing basic weapon configuration, where is the magazine well? What type of optical system? Flash hiders, etc. All of these are helpful indicators. And remember, these are contract companies. These are government contractors that build the weapons, build the equipment, and they're built to spec. When it is a military government formation of some kind, then it's going to be consistent. So what you see with one, you'll see with pretty much all. Now, there are variations on those themes depending on how poor or how rich the country is, and some extremes with regard to how well different units are equipped or to what era of equipment, what era of standard they're set to. That's something that needs to be taken into consideration. We're almost to the bottom now. We're here. We're going to have a break in a minute or a few minutes, not quite yet, but a heads up on that. Do we have another caller? We got a meat eater there. Do we have anybody else? I don't want to be sick because I know we had a lot of dings. It could be just patient listeners. I want to let everybody get a chance today. It is Quartermaster Friday. If you'd like to call in, 712-43-20900. That's 712-43-20900. The room is 9576-932. correction, correction, correction 957464 pound sign again that's 957464 pound sign the basic number is 712-432-0900 And the room number is 957464 pound sign if you want to call in. Another thing here real quick, again with regard to these facilities, remember cameras are everywhere on our side but cameras can be very inexpensive to acquire. Go to, and I had this discussion yesterday with somebody else, dealextreme.com, in fact also today, only three or four hours ago. dealxtreme.com, dealxtreme.com, dealxtreme.com. Guys, they got every widget and and pidget and doodad and connector and cable and splitters and memory sticks and all kinds of connecting technology. You can videotape, photograph, and x-ray them just about with all the stuff that's out there between that company and a few others. And we're talking Chikom Bargain Basement. You can spend whatever amount you want, but even the most expensive is a stupid, cheap price. So, get at least some of this fixed technology on site at your location or at least on standby to set up so you can monitor roads, monitor rails. You don't have to be standing right there. Your security camera, especially if you're near a train track, just make sure your security camera is deployed so that it watches the train track all day. Why not? What's the big deal? In other words, you're covering what is actually an avenue of approach for people on foot as likely as not. So it would be a real good idea to cover both the back 40 and that rail head. One of the reasons, there's only so many train companies left in the country. There's only so many track and they've reduced the amount of track where there used to be double tracks east and west, north and south. They're now piled up on each other on single tracks with sidings. like they used to do many many many years ago when the country was poorer. Well the country has been stripped and is poorer now. And that's why we have less rail. It's because they can't afford or don't want to spend the money on the infrastructure. Shazam! So again, rail is still the cheapest way to move things that weigh tons, especially tanks, armored vehicles, radiological control technology, radars, any form of weapon system support, service support, Miskit and canteen units, you have any number of things, but the equipment will be there And even if it's canvas doesn't make any difference, it gives us an idea of where force strength is moving, what activity is taking place, especially if it's on tracks that usually are rusty, but still are in place. The shiny track's a busy track. The track has got a little rust on it. It's not used very often. You start seeing unique traffic on that. That's something that's of interest. And you always want to pay attention to stuff like that. Just remember that's one of the basic rules now another thing here before I go too far and again before we lose the bottom of the hour here For our friends that are listening as I pointed out. There's a number of different solutions to some of the supply problems JG sales has the Nagat Model 53 Chai-com used rifles for $100 apiece 99 95 And remember, Centerfire Systems always has its... Oh. They've got a Centerfire Systems pistol in a pot sale. Buy multiple pistols and get a large pot. Buy one pistol and get a smaller pot free. A cooking stock pot. Wait a minute. Yeah, I don't know how that works. I guess we'll have to find out more here in a minute. Buy a pistol and get a big cooking pot. So it's a pistol in a pot. Or is that a pistol in a pot to... Yeah, urinate in. Remember that? Yeah, I think we remember that. Anyway, I don't know if that Polish AK-47 pistol is going to fit in the cooking pot, even the bigger cooking stock pot. Neither, the C93 might have a bit of a problem fitting in there too. Otherwise, whether or not they actually have all of these in stock, as we've pointed out, a lot of the .45 or 1911 frames are not available. So again, you have to selectively work through that. Now it should be interesting to note that center fire is typical of the endemic problem across the board. The cheapest gun they seem to have available is the Yugo model 88A short slide 9mm. It does come with two mags, so that's a plus. I don't know if you can get more mags with a thing or not. I have not seen any additional mags laying around, but $250. That's basically the cheapest thing they've got. Hell, even the 3D Auto is more expensive than the UGO 9. So, and that is a Ruger, of course, but as far as price goes... And for its size, if I were looking at that shelf right now, that Yugo Model 88A pistol in 9mm would probably be the direction I'd go. I know there's a couple of the weapons I like there. The Charter Bulldogs are cool. 1911s are great, but they're almost $450, you know, $400 to $450. It's like, whoa, dudes. Okay, well, for $250 I can get a Yugo Model 88. and I still have money left over for mags if I can find them and ammunition which I will need. Okay? Now, a couple of things. I mentioned this this morning. I want to make sure I get this out this afternoon so again for all of our friends out there listening go to www.e-sarcoinc.org Hopefully I got that right. Let's see if it looks right. Yeah, I'll bet you we can do that. www.e-sarcoinc.com Now, once you get there, off to the left side, there are a whole bunch of options in terms of parts. Parts and accessories. Parts, kits. all kinds of gun part things which are kind of handy, the gunny party thingies or something we're looking for. Well, with regard to the parts, if you go to the pistol parts and go to 1911 pistol parts, on the very last page for the 1911 pistol parts, there are both unfinished slides cast and unfinished receivers. Now these are interesting in that they are some unique frames but they are very doable. In fact the guns that they represent in terms of these cast frame parts, they're parts, they're not registered weapons guys because they're castings. So they're just like an 80% complete. Well probably a little less or a little more depending on what they are. The important thing is pistol and revolver parts and accessories is where you go. Then right up in the upper left hand corner what will come up is a big menu but up in the corner is 1911 GI. Once you get to there, I want you to go all the way to page 5. When you get to page 5 and scroll down just a little bit, oh look at that! There's a whole bunch of frame castings, 1911. The P13 type double stack single action, 2995. Frame casting, 1911, 45, P14, wide body steel double action frame casting, 2995. Wait a minute, there's a whole bunch of these here. Yeah, as a matter of fact, if you want to do a little creative work, P12 type double stack single action frame Casting and there's a lot more there on the page. We're gonna go to break I'm gonna touch on this a little more after we go to break for everybody out there listening it is Quartermaster Friday. We'll be back now that one has something on the end. I had to cut off. Okay. Well, yeah, we can't have the yeah, okay, so very good and it is Friday here and And this is Liberty Tree Radio. You are listening to us on the new microphone in the studio. So if there's a little change there, let us know how does it sound. Obviously. That's just the way it works, kids. We've got new tools and you guys made it happen. I can make one note. When I'm on, we've got that 60 kilohertz hum. When you're on with the new mic, there isn't one. So my mics got the hum yours doesn't sounds pretty good. Um I can't hear you sound normal as far as through my headpiece though That's the cool thing. So we got to work on that anyway. We're used to hearing that I can I can also change the tone simply by moving my head a little bit. Oh, that's not bad. Actually, that's pretty good Experimenting a little bit what we have to do here now Oh no! I sound awful! Oh, awful awesome. There we go. Awesome! I know. Well, appreciate that sir. I want to say thank you again. We appreciate the tools. We'll put them to good use. Ed found that phantom switch in the background. Dun dun! Dun dun dun! It's right out of like the original Star Wars movie, the first one. I'm just surprised they put it on the back. Like I said, it's usually on the top. Probably ran out of room. I didn't see it until I was looking at the you know I was looking at the plugs how I put put it in taking a picture like I do for you know archives in case anybody has to hook anything up or move anything and Lo and behold there's another switch back there, and I'm like wait a minute. That's the power switch What is that? Yep, so we had it was there and it was one of those hidden in the background just like the Emperor and the Emperor want to be in Phantom and Phantom and us with the Well, that's right, the clone army in the distance and the Sith Lords in motion. Well, the Sith Lords are out in your face right now, kids. Everybody better hear of that. Joe, anything else jumping off in your neck of the woods, sir? I just wanted to put something out there for the Quartermaster Corner Hour later tonight. I will be available for all listeners. I have a permaculture design certificate and have some gardening information to put out there, but I would I would like to just put out the thought line to all listeners that if you have questions about gardening or fall gardening, please call in during the Quartermaster Corner Hour. That's from 8 to 9 p.m. Eastern Time this evening, and I will be one line to try to field your questions. So, just wanted to drop that thought line in for a little bit later. appreciate that good point and in fact uh... all the information here in the fingertips to so that we can uh... reinforce that for everybody the permaculture idea uh... the concepts are sound i highly recommend looking at especially the uh... the presentations in the dvd uh... guys that's one of those things we again some of the things we've subdivided our time here but Food production is a high priority. It is part of Quartermaster. It is part of a foundation for society. We need to do better. There's no reason. When I look at the amount of property in real estate that's just going to waste and then you hear these people lament, well the government told us and the system told us we're starving. The only reason you're going to starve is because you're grossly incompetent and stupid. You're listening to the BS and you're not doing for yourself. And it's not as hard as it is. In fact, it isn't hard. There's not even everybody saying, well, it's harder than you think. Wrong. In fact, one thing about farming is that typically farmers were multiple tradesmen. Does everybody understand that? Once it's in the ground and once you focus and use a lot of Armstrong work, but once you get it in place, you had a cycle of energy available. That's what they showed in the Patriot. Remember Joe the Patriot, guys? Remember he's plowing the fields, doing his farm work, but then what does he do when he goes back into the shop? What was he working on? He was working on a chair, remember? A rocking chair. Now why was he building it? There's one thing he was doing. He wasn't just building it, he weighed it. Why was he weighing the chair, guys? Because he was an entrepreneur. If he could build a lighter, stronger, better built rocking chair, he could market it. That's what he was doing. They were demonstrating the whole process of the do for yourself. Farmers typically were multitaskers from the get-go. You know, once the corn's going, you don't sit on your dead arse. Although you did have all the time in the world to actually do what you wanted to do. And each person chose their path. Some of them were hellacious moonshiners. Which is also bleeding into the medical area of things. That's right, exactly. Well, think about it. There's a whole lot of other stuff they learned to do. And moonshining always seemed to be on the side. Even George Washington was a moonshiner. Come on. and a hemp farmer. Anyways, Mark, I'm going to drop off for the rest of the hour, but I just wanted to put that out there for everybody. Just call in during the Quartermaster Corner Hour tonight. If you have any questions, I will be there. Thank you, sir. We appreciate that. Thank you, sir. You bet. And we'll continue to work with this really shiny microphone that we have here that's working exceptionally well. Yes sir, and we appreciate that. It actually is cool. Look, I'll hold it up to the microphone for you. No wait a minute, I can't do this. It's the microphone I'm using. So, that's kind of hard even. But again, we're a neat piece of technology and if we get our view stream back up or any of our other camera activity up, we'll have to clear away some space, make sure the globe is next to me here and we've got this, you know, Definitely theater quality mic, you know, a slight studio quality mic in place for commercial studios, of course anyway Real quick back to sarco. Www.e-sarco Inc.com Www.e-sarcoinc.com the very last page of the 1911 parts guys you what you want to do is you're going to go to Parts and accessories and then pistol and revolver parts Then from there you're going to 1911 parts and on page 5 is where you'll find these casting, these components. They're not frames, they're unfinished frames. They have slides, both the 4 inch and the 5 inch slides, unfinished for $14.95 apiece. If you buy more than one, They're cheaper still. If you buy 10 at a time, they're $12 apiece. So if you have a machine programmed and you want to do your own slides and save a lot of money, maybe you have a little CNC technology at your disposal, well, you can buy 10 of these or more. I think the more you buy, the cheaper they get. But if you bought 10 of these at $12 apiece, that's 10 slides. the change out tool, it's all done automatically by the machine in many cases. And rather than making some frivolous thing like an Orange County Chopper custom spindle wheel with whatever design, well I guess you could be doing 1911 finished 45 slides all day, right? and the tooling is all automatically changed and it would crank one out in a matter of seconds and as soon as the first one is done you put the next piece of stock in and mew mew mew and of course these are casting so a majority of the machining is done and I'm not worried about finish on the outside being pretty you know what I mean I would clean it up but other than that I'm telling you crude and rude on the outside these are production combat pistols they should be crude and rude pretty of course can be done with paint if all else fails and there's all kinds of hard coats you can do out there, powder coat being one of them. So again that's www.e-circoinc.com then go to parts and accessories, pistol revolver parts and accessories is the one you want to get next then go to M1911GIparts and on page five is where you will find the both the slide and the frame castings and there's several to choose from. Personally, I would look at the P12 and the P13 for a reason and wow, why would I use that logic? Why would I take that little chubby frame? Well, one neat thing about the P12, it'll take all of the bigger stacked mags, but it will take all of the smallest stacked mags. in a .45 mag. You might recall there's a whole bunch of these little chubby guns out there and there are aftermarket mags available that will work just fine for the P-12, P-13 and P-14. So as a consideration, the small frame is probably the one I'd look at initially because most all the parts are 1911 parts. The only thing is that specialized larger magazine well. They intentionally designed the gun to take as many 1911 parts as possible to save on any trouble with operations. I would though put a full-size frame slide on that smaller frame. That kind of looks goofy. No, not really. In fact, remember you can also get magazine extension butts to go on those larger mags just to be safe if you want to, to make them baby buggy bouncers if they drop. Also gives you a little more meat on the base to work with when the time comes. They do have P14 type double stack double action steel frame castings. All the casting frames are $29.95. cheaper if you buy five at a time. So again, if you do a CNC program and you got all the perfection there worked out, once you put it in your jig, guys, and it goes... and cuts away all the metal that needs to be done for finished purposes, well, how long would it take to do five? Not very long at all. If you have a Smithy system, everything you need to do could be done on a smithy and these frames would be well whatever pistol you choose to name them you can even describe your own special name for those weapons on the side of that non-frame that soon becomes a functional frame what do you think about that? I think that's a good idea I think that worked for me so again go to www.e-circoinc.com they also have new barrels they have used barrels They have a lot of different 45 kits. You can either do it parts pieces and assemblies or you can do a whole big lump of parts all at once. If you are limited in resources, you can pick and go right down the shopping list and one week after another buy more and more parts. I would buy the harder to find parts first. If you're limited in budget, the frame, the slide, pick out the barrel that you choose. They used to have barrel blanks that were 90% finished for $4. I believe they sold out of those. We pretty well cleaned them out. But there are a lot of other things that they do have that are 1911, too numerous to mention, five pages worth. And that includes finished slides, finished barrels. That includes ambidextrous safeties, every kit in every variation of combinations for parts including just the small parts or full parts with barrel. By the way they build their own mags so they offer a mag with every one of these kits which I think is really neat. But they build the mags in-house and you can get more 1911 mags from Sarco. They're not going to be government GI but they're government GI pattern. In fact, Sarco has been providing these to the industry for a long, long, long time. Just as a case in point. Main spring housings, one of the things about those castings, depending on how they're built, you can do like Star did and not even incorporate a grip safety. Hey, that would be an idea that actually can be done and that's something if you know a little smithing and understand what's going on that's another part of the system that could be simplified for the sake of Operation so just one of those things that can be part of the list of things to do, but you got to do a little research on that one As is pointed out pins If you are going to go with a grip safety, every combination you can imagine in high-end, extra wide, narrow, cheapest for the most. This is what I would go with the first pistol you build. I wouldn't be buying any top-end parts. I would make it absolutely the cheapest possible 1911 pattern pistol you can. So again, my recommendation. Why? Well, it's your research gun. you make a mistake you're not going to cry. You fudged something or you're tuning something and you cut too deep. Well, if it only costs a few dollars per item you won't cry as much if you got that custom widget with the super chrome or super titanium or whatever and you know the special cross ribbing and diamond pattern and etc etc and you do a little grind well it's hard gluing metal back on it doesn't really work yeah we can weld and teag welding can you know settle a lot of sins. Teag welders are a wonderful thing which is the next thing you invest in guys but personally. Seriously, you can go to Harbor Freight and there are cheap, low-end T-Gwelders available. It's enough to get the basic work done and it's a great part of the learning curve. T-Gwelders are a good thing. You should think about having one. You also have to have all the support technology, but a small version, micro version of that is available. The other thing is again purely a matter of personal choice. How much money do you want to spend and how much work do you want to put into this 1911? I would point out that for the castings, hey, the little guy in Vietnam that built a .45 out of a piece of railroad iron, he had to start with a big chunk of metal and grind all the parts off. All you have to do is take that casting, figure out what the final dimensions are, and if you have another pistol of the same model, You simply use that as your template for matching up parts to confirm that they fit and do what they're supposed to do. Hey, that's cheating. No, that's common sense. And as a matter of fact there are a whole lot of those P-12 type double stack single action pistols out there in many different forms as far as the 14's, the 12's, etc. So you guys can pick and choose what fits your wallet based upon also what you may have in the way of a pattern gun to test your cuts. The little common sense and little patience, you should have no problem building that 45 frame out. purely a matter of common sense and intelligence. You have it, you're capable, you need to have confidence in yourself. That little Vietnamese guy that put that 45 together from scratch building it from every, you know, every part was made by hand. You're not having to do that. You just got to figure out how to make those really fine parts somebody else already built and spent the time on and that's a whole lot simpler than grinding from scratch. So you can do it. Or as they say, you can do it! Yeah, what a country. Anyway, a couple of things here real quick. Centerfire, of course, does have their little sale thing. You're going to get a pot for, you know, the if you buy a pistol. I don't know how important that is to anybody. But, but anyway, it's, you know, they're trying to find some way to move weapons because there's nothing out there to replace what they're selling. And the same is true with parts, pieces and assemblies. What they got is mostly what they got. The industry is really snagged right now. So you're going to see a lot of stuff like that popping up. Oh, well anyway, an eBay sale here real quick. Before I go any farther, let's see. Two mag pouches, Y suspenders, it's a TA90 rig for $22.99. Two canteens, two canteen pouches, first aid or compass pouch, Y suspenders, two mag pouches and pistol belt. And I don't know how many of those, more than 10 sets available. 25 sets already sold. $22.99 for our friends. It's in eBay right now. And Allegheny or Alligan, or Alephin, T-H-E-N, Alligan, Hewlett. Allegheny outlet. Okay, there we go. Duh! All one word. That's why I put a break in there somewhere. Allegheny outlet. 89527. And for everybody out there, it's Army, Alice, LBE, Canteen, First Aid, Ammo Pouches, Suspenders with Med Belt, Very Good Condition, $22.99, $23. So that's a foundation kit. However, if you go to Main Military or if you go to the Clearance and Closeouts, I will remind you guys, you can piece together not one, but several sets, several kits. And it's not that complicated. Now, last but not least, I'm going to go back to a subject that is critical because we're almost to militia town hall, and Ed's going to bring it up again. Guys, we have the once a year bill. It's at the end of the year. We have survived the Mayan death cult crisis. That doesn't mean they might still kick it in some way, I guess. Watch out for those black obsidian plastic Chinese made copies. Those obsidian knights flashing in the darkness as they try to look for another sacrifice on their Chinese made 2995 Mayan pyramid. I mean, they're getting desperate. It's almost a year since the world was supposed to end and they're still waiting in the backyard. They're soggy. the grass hula skirts kind of limp and pale from being in the sunlight. The chicken feather headdress has got somebody else's bird nesting in it now. Now the guy, the bone, the little plastic bone in his nose, gangrene. It's a horrible thing. The smell is terrible. The hole is bigger. The bone fits just fine. It'll go in and out and he'd almost use it. Well, you know, pull it straight through now. In addition to that, he's desperate because, yeah, the Mayan cult thing was a total failure. But it is the year 2013 these peckerwoods and fools that we see that are part of the kosher New World Order scam The shyster Israelis are trying desperately in their kleptomaniac mindset to drag us in so they can you know we murder and rape kill the women and kids and the grandpas and grandmas in Syria and The kosher mafia sells everything in advance So, really not a good idea. Well, we've survived most all of this so far, but we need your help because this bill is coming up at the end of the year. That is at the end of September. We have to have it paid. So if you could, please see it in your heart to donate. I want to say thank you to Joe and the friends. We had another donation that came in. I don't know if Ed saw that. the big $200 donation the other day? 260 I believe. Yeah, that one we were talking about that in Henry's program. Okay, very good. So I want to say thank you guys. We greatly appreciate that. It makes a big difference. We've had a lot of other people that have mailed in and sent in donations in different ways. Mail mail works just fine. You can either send the donation via the internet through www.libertytreeradio.4mg.com. That's www.libertytreeradio.4mg.com. That's www.libertytreeradio.4mg.com. Then go to the Donate key. Or you can send whatever donation amount you can afford, whatever, you know, fits your wallet. We understand the limitations. We know how bad the situation is. We cover it every day. But if you could, please see in your heart, donate to PBN PO Box 194, Dexter, Michigan 48130. Again, that's PBN PO Box 194, Dexter, Michigan 48130. Seems like we just did this last year. Oh wait a minute, we did. Just last year. Why? Because it's been a year since we did this. It's something that has to be done. It's good because hey September we survived all these months we survived and you got a bullet clip past your ear with this nonsense with the gun ban, a pen tempted gun grab but it doesn't mean it's over. The Israelis obviously are going to try and frag us and blame somebody else for it. So all we need to do is keep an eye on the kosher mafia inside the US and their shyster operatives coming in from outside the US. Remember The easiest way to do this like we caught them the last time after 9-11, tell all the sheriff's deputies the Arab terrorists are the ones need to be busted. 99% of all of them that are acting goofy are all Israelis. So we'll get the job done. Not many Arabs will be grabbed, but a whole bunch of Israeli Mossad personnel will be. So we need to make a point of snacking them, pointing them out, calling up people. Hey, get the cops to go after them, guys. You see Jewish mobsters on the road. La, tell somebody they were waving a gun, throwing a beer bottle out the window, and it looked like they were laughing about going to nuke or bio somebody. Yeah, anonymous by the way, anonymous is a good thing. Due to them, what they thought they were going to do to everybody else. draw attention to them, point at them, that pink gorilla with the rainbow queer arm patches. Yeah, that's what we're all supposed to be afraid of. Well, as soon as it looks like it's going to be a serious fight, that slinks back into the shadows and they expect their mercenary horse to do their job for them. It's the way the punk is. So, you know, oh, that's an 800-punk gorilla called APEC! No, no, it's a queer. limp-dink piece of trash that always expects somebody else to do the fighting for it and then they sell everything. Netanyahu is already trying to sell the oil that he hasn't even stolen yet. Listen, I've got these great oil fields for you. 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