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The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. The tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate. And your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press. And you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm. and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children will be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As Iowoki vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled, each God given right, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Still the land of the free. Afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, this is the Afternoon Intelligence Report. I'm Mark Kornke. And I'm Don Butcher. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines in occupied territories west, southwest, east, and north. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you were listening to us on libertytreeradio.4mg.com, we're on AM and FM micro stations, CB base stations, and UltraNet Technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska. We're on the hallmark network on Eastern Seaboard from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida, from the bottom of Florida to the west, Arkansas to Louisiana to Mississippi, Texas, Oklahoma, big chunk of Nebraska, a whole bunch of Wyoming to include both Pitt Thirds and Fifth and our friends in the Civil War state of Colorado waving to the left coast returned back to the east sweep across plains leap over the burgeoning banks of the Mississippi land and the Smokies where the restaurant crews grabbing teams, OK teams, the mob bill grabbing consortium bringing us the Golden Spike down. Beautiful sunny day here working outside what's it like in your neck of the woods and what is this special day today sir? Well it is the fourth day of September year of our Lord 2013 mark and they say it's not going to rain but you know weathermen are like politicians and if the weathermen says you're going, oh you can do the roof, you can tear off 10 squares and put 10 squares down over the next few days all by yourself. Don't believe a word of it because it's going to rain here. At any rate, with that in mind, it is the fourth day of September, the year of our Lord 2013. That just begs the magazine to be inserted into the magazine well, along with the slide release being touched. I've got a hot gun in my hand now, not that it's stolen, it's in condition one. It's A1, and that means there's one in the chamber, and I drop that magazine, put one back, a cartridge, some call them bullets. down range. You guys have completed cartridges. This is what just went into the top of my magazine. Then I insert the magazine back in the magazine well. I've got one in the chamber and eight in the magazine. Man, that 45. Did I ever tell you how much I liked my 1911? I'm getting a little bit off track because I want to tell you it is Weapons Wednesday. The perimeter is secure and there is plenty more where that came from. And that means we can offer equal opportunity, coercive force, and it'd probably be a real good idea with the way things are looking right now. So, for our friends out there listening, Weapons Wednesday, that means everything and anything you can imagine in terms of arms will, if we can think of it, needs to be covered. We will cover it on the air here. I would remember... You can cover it. Mark, might I interject? Just at the very front here, this is kind of an alert and a flash to a very specific target, but this needs to be done because, well, Something happened in the end of June from that Tucson area and I was not able to complete that. And I got the official notification today that all of those ducats and there is someone out there saying name as the guy leading the Nash car. The NASCAR points championship as the weekend closed only he doesn't do that He lives over there in the aforementioned area of the Southwest and he will get his part 90 some days almost after he ordered it and you guys I'm doing this on the year because well this there might have been some talk about this and Don well you guys mark I've been badgering my source to send her to this fellow because well I have the The bank has shown me that the company cashed the check. I have tried to use that as a lever. And that didn't work at all until today I yesterday talked with someone in shipping who doesn't work in accounting or parts or sales. And today that person in shipping called me back and says, Don, I found your check. It went into a different, it went to somebody else. It went to into a different, what's the category, a different clientele, so to speak. into a different account, not into my account. So this, after 90 days, you guys, I'm able to, and in the interim, I have done other deals and they have gone in the very closed quarters of time that they usually happen in. But man, oh man, I have to say that if there's been whispers in the back and in, you know, dark corners about Don and this guy hasn't got his part in like 90 days, you guys, I'm not a rich guy. I can't just reach in my pocket and say because, well, they didn't send it, I can just cover it. So it came down literally, and I'm not exaggerating on this, Mr. I can, I'll do it like this, JJ. Today was the day, and as we talked about last week, that I would have put your device on my credit card. And only because, well, I've got that to the extent that there's room to put it on that credit card and had a device sent to you today, but someone in shipping pulled in from one of my major sources, pulled my cookies out of the fire, started to yesterday and my cookies no longer smoldering today. And, Mr. J, your part is on its way to you. I don't have to sweat bullets on that anymore. Hooray. I'm explaining away something that might have been talked about and badmouthed about Don. It was beyond my control. Everything went on my end. Bang, bang, bang. Just like rock and roll. Chop, chop, chop. You know what I mean? When it got there, Mark went into somebody. That check when it got there went into somebody else's account. Not to be redundant with the use of the word, but from the Department of Retundancy Department. I could not account for that and neither could they until today. So Mr. J, your part is on the way and I don't have to pay for it twice. I'm greatly relieved there, you guys. This only illustrates more than once someone has called me up and said, oh, you're that rich guy that sells a night vision, right? And one of the reasons I do this is to illustrate that I'm not the rich guy that sells night vision. But boy, oh boy, that almost put my chestnut on the anvil and here comes the hammer. I get to keep my chestnut, so, all right. That's the only way. I have big patience from this fellow over this time, and he was very understanding. And again, he should have his part maybe by Saturday, by Monday. And keep an eye on the mail, is what we're saying. Yes, yes. Keep an eye out. I will have a shipping number for you, or call me later today. But again, I I begged patients and it worked out. This has never happened to me before. I've been dealing with this one company since 1995 and they've never done this to me before. I'm wasting valuable time on the year apologizing and begging forgiveness and all of that. But hey, I'm not above saying I made a mistake and I did everything I could to dig that up. Finally, hey, we got to the bottom of it today. Hooray! I yield the floor to you, Mark. And again, for everybody out there, if you'd like to find out more, and again, why are we dealing with a stranger when we can deal with a friend? Don, do everything again to take care of the problem, but it is some of the, well, everything having to do with where it comes from is somewhere else. I think you all understand that. I think we shut down your night vision tube plant behind the house, right? We don't really run that anymore. Oh, we never had that to begin with. The Philippine youngsters have fled the property. Somebody left a light on it and they saw it We only indentured it for one year. After that, they could flee to the countryside where they're now living next to the upstream doing their own production. A couple things here, I can picture that too. We had 30 some Chinese in a basement over here in an arbor that were all being kept by the Chinese restaurant. No wonder they had some of these staff members. And although they were used to barracks type living with five deck bunk beds, narrow, very short like on a ship. As far as height, you know, squeeze in, squeeze out. Well, apparently a lot of other people didn't think that was the way they should be living in the basement there. So that's been negated and moved on down the road, as we say. But for everybody out there, no, we don't have any Filipino slave workers or Chinese coolies or anything like that. We're not into the slavery thing. We're just people working on our own. And we'll do what we can to keep you up to speed and make sure that we take care of you. That's the thing. Another thing here, it is weapons Wednesday, airsoft, airsoft, airsoft and can I say airsoft? We are going to need every bullet we have. We're going to need every round we have in the inventory. You should be collecting more on a weekly or a daily basis if you can. Depending on how you get paid and what you do for a living, some of you can. If you acquire a little extra cash each day, you can buy a little more ammunition each day. And of course you have to balance that out depending on how little or how much you make. But in light of what we're seeing right now, I highly recommend that you pick up whatever ammunition you can as part of the inventory. If you're going to buy an AR-15, as we've pointed out several times in the past, you might as well start buying ammunition now. You're going to need it. If you've already decided in your heart of hearts, in your mind, that you're going to buy that particular goodie, then you will need the stuff that goes in it. You're going to need the magazines that go in the magazine well, the ammunition that goes in the magazine that goes in the magazine well. Solvents, cleaners, everything else, start accumulating as you can. Ammunition, all the perishables like that. Mags are a perishable. You drop enough of them, you lost them, and you're down to a semi-automatic, oh wait a minute, semi-extracting single shot rifle. Yeah, it doesn't become semi-auto if it doesn't have anything to feed up the next round. So again, take advantage of what's out there that's cheap to try and build up a quick inventory and get to a certain level. I know everybody is wishing they had had more but you know we can't spend the money you know that everybody what you like to do and what you can do are two different things we know that. Airsoft right now if you go to Airsoft station or airsoftgi.com both of those sites you will find that they have under $25 Airsoft now they have 45s, pump shotguns, AK-47s for $20, scars Berettas, Glocks, a Baby Colt 25 Auto, all metal, mini air, you know, airsoft pistol. They've got a bunch of those out there right now, by the way. Even Myers has those guys in sets, Don. You get two of them for, you know, a price. And they're all metal. In reality, they're built just like a Baby Colt. Nancy has one. See, in fact, we have one of the early, early ones. It's probably one of the, you know, the first five digits, five digits serial numbers. I should tell you how early it is. Anyway, the 45s, the Glocks, all realistic. Yep, they even have an Uzi for just under $25. Not critical, but hey, if you got one, it'd be nice to have something to practice with. Mac 10s and Mac 11s. A myriad of other doodads, trinkets, and cool stuff in terms of airsoft pump riot shotguns, both with the pistol grip or with the folding stock or collapsing stock like the AR, and or conventional riot guns. Personally, I prefer the full stock as you know, so that would be a good choice right there for training. Also revolvers and this is something that they started out with most people realize that airsoft started out with revolvers or spring soft and Years and years and years ago, and they went away from revolvers But now they're offering them again, which is actually a good thing for all you wheel gun shooters out there You can get a 2 inch 4 inch 6 inch 8 inch You know revolver in a Colt or a Smith & Wesson pattern You know slash python and they feel correct. They've got the right weight. They've got pockmire grips Our pockmire type grips, which is fine for what you're doing Etc etc etc so There's not a weapon you can't find a solution for even weapons you can't necessarily own right now or do couldn't afford to but You can pick them up as airsoft and familiarize yourself with what you're gonna be pulling off the enemy's corpses the scar rifle the you know that the you're gonna see the Israeli Mossad operating and the most on a suicide gun a gotta remember we fired twenty nine rounds you don't use the last round because there's an automatic chamber inverter that are reverses around and a small short chamber blows your brains out when you fire the thirtieth round that's why it's really missing yes uncle It's a Masada thing, man. You have to fight a little bit, you blow your brains out, you know, or you slit your throat. It could have done the razor blade thing, but they found that people's necks are different heights, whereas on the other hand, if you have your head right up next to the gun, the automatic chamber reversal, the Israelis are classic for that, especially when they're selling to somebody else. This solves the problem of not having a sheer cliff to jump off at close hand. Yeah. Oh, another one. Wait a minute, he kind of hit, well at least you could drop on a Roman. Wouldn't you do that? I'm gonna jump. If you're really really quiet, no I mean if you drop down on them at least, if you're really really quiet and don't scream on the way down, you could at least get one of them before they start to realize, hey, what's dropping from above? Oh, Hebrew, yeah. Jews are falling from the sky, it's raining Jews from the sky, oh, quick, get away from the wall, get away, there goes another one. You see so you probably a few of you get away with it, but not many after a while They'd figure out hey, why don't we just back away a little bit. They're gonna all jump anyway, aren't they? It's not a high tech solution. We're not a high tech solution. They're all gonna commit suicide. Why worry about it? Whatever they do. That's fine. We don't care. They're gonna kill themselves. What do you mean? Well, they are gonna fight. They're gonna kill themselves. Really? Yeah, are you sure? Oh, yeah. Yeah, trust me. We've seen the program now. What works, Masada? Nothing to be proud of. In fact, just a reverse. Dumb butts. Anyway, what can I say? So as it is, again, don't buy the rifle named after a suicide. That's one thing. Another one's scar. You don't want to give people scars. You want to kill them. If it said kill, you know, like this is the Mark 1 kill. I'd go, cool. Okay, that's the rifle I want. But if I have the Mark 1 scar or the Mark 2 scar, my first question is, The car implies that it's a malfunctioning weapon that gives me injury. I don't want that. The killer versus the wounder. Yeah, or if it's a scar. You leave enough energy in him so he usually kills whoever shoots it. The other guy... The guy with the scar can brag. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, they shot me, but I got him right back. The gun doesn't really work that well. What can I say? Scar. Whoever came up with that just wasn't thinking it through. And they had to mince the words and mix everything up to make that I'll guarantee it. What can we need? Scar! Yeah man, we're gonna call it the Scar! You could at least call it the Scare! You know? Yeah man, put a few rounds down, Reigns are scared man, this is a Scare Rifle! Well, I'd rather kill them. Yeah, but scare's close. Okay, let's maybe- They'll keep their head down. That's right, you see. So there's a problem with these anachronyms and how they really, it's like after a while you're looking at desperate fumbling. Politically, political correctness and desperate fumbling. So anyway, we're gonna try to make, we're gonna, like for instance, we're gonna call like our armored vehicles like Toad, you know, Weasel. You know, I don't know, Weasel actually sounds like he might fight. You know, some things that really will make Bill go, hmm, it's a pretty- Yeah, a pillar. Can't be too much of a threat. You know, fuzzy brown caterpillar butterfly. It's the mark two butterfly. Ooh fuzzy. There we go. Everybody will feel better about war. You know, when you have like the Huggy Bear, Huggy Bear assault vehicle, the Huggy Bear assault vehicle. Yes, it shoots love, government love, you know, like government love bombs, you know, like the ones that they were sending into Kosovo, the love bombs. And I'd like to introduce you to Prudence. Yeah, we'll do that. Now that's another thing, 50 Calibert, you know, Don, again getting into the 50s, I've got to mention we've got a meeting this weekend, this will be Saturday, we're going to have the doctor and his oldest son here. In Michigan, and we're discussing getting more of the information on the Motties, the generation 1B and the 1A rifles that were out there, the, actually forgive me, the A1 and B1, which are the Sussman original models based on the Mottie Griffin. That's a single shot. The next one was a bolt in the traditional pattern rather than a bolt-up type design. And that's the B2. The B3 is the first of the semi-automatic extracting. It actually mimics one of the Russian 50-cals that was built about 1955-56. It's a self-extracting. It is not semi-auto in that it doesn't self-load and engage the next round. But it's auto-extracting, so all you have to be concerned with is getting the next round into the chamber tray, the tray for chambering, and you're set. That saves a little bit of time, but it's an interesting idea. It was very simple to build, so that's one of the reasons it was recommended and it was developed. I don't know how many people built that particular model. But the three is out there because I've seen a few of them shot But I am NOT familiar with how many people actually decided to go in that direction There are advantages But and again for gun firing say in a vehicle if you're not wanting to just spray and pray as a placement weapon it works And again the advantages that you're focusing on only one procedure get the get the round into the tray load it and aim That's the only extraneous activity separate from aiming and shooting. So that's pretty cool. Anyway, other models out there, but the B7B is the one everybody wants. And yes, we're working on that. But apparently, the CNC programs out there do collide with each other and don't cooperate. In fact, it's something, there was an engineering article on this two or three years ago I brought up. It turns out that we've lost whole groups of engineering technology because we didn't keep the computers to match the software. And right now, oh yes, there's whole technologies we have completely lost because they thought, well we'll just load it in the next computer and it'll just run the way it's supposed to. And lo and behold, it turns out that, wrong. technology marches on. Yeah, like books. Keep the books around. Remember, the electronic may not be working, but the ocular collectors in your brain usually are. So you can collect with the eyes. It's transmitted down the optic nerve to the gray matter. And you extrapolate and interpolate and formulate. And by the time you're done, you produce. which is really cool. So that really is the best way to go and the print issue is part of the problem. Again these are going to be a little more intricate and but not too complicated. All of them came down with hand tools just about except for certain processes. You should use a lathe but let's put it this way. Up in Peshawar they don't or probably don't most of the time. So I think you could probably handle it but The other consideration of the formula is back when we started doing this guys there were a lot of M250 caliber barrels out there. There aren't as many, if any, anymore. Well, what fewer showing up at the gun shows are actually a shout out ones that guys were using at the ranges and or stuff that was you know in the inventory for the last 15, 20, 30 years. Reminder, even if you Don't have a lathe? It's not a big deal to make one. You can look it up online. Any engine has everything you need to make a lathe. Right, exactly. We can build it from stuff sitting another project to make a project. The big thing here is again, the barrels of Halsfel's Douglas, Walther, several others are out there to have you order a barrel of whatever type I would recommend for the starter model going with the simplest, straightest, cheapest barrel you can. Because it's going to be a learning curve program. It doesn't mean that weapon is going to be malfeasant or malfunctioning or whatever. It's the idea that you're, it's more forgiving if for some reason you made some kind of mistake. Okay? After you've seen that, you know, again, this works, that rifle wouldn't go into any kind of retirement. It's a field grade weapon. It's like a standard M14 as opposed to a match grade M14. See how that works? You give me either one and I'll show you how to dot somebody's on it, you know, 575 yards every day, you know, every shot every day. In fact, amazingly enough, that's one thing that really was kind of strange to my mind is I didn't have any problem with a 575 yard or a 700 yard shot, but for some reason that 150 yard niche, not a 100, 150 yard niche shot on the range, pop up or whatever model of moving silhouette, I don't know, but that seemed to be the odd man out shot. So I guess I've just told you you're safe at 150 yards with me, not. Well, as long as there's another one in the chamber, we can correct. We'll correct immediately in follow-up. That's right. I will track you with another round if I think I've missed with a first. Unmuted. But the fact of the matter is that, again, with that rifle, 575 was our trained battle sights, you know, zero slash our expected range of engagement per NATO standard. We're going to go to break. Down stay right there. We come back. We're going to be talking about 50s here for a minute, guys. 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Oh, hear ye not just singin' of the dew, though wild and free. So soon you'll know the ringin' of the rifle from the tree. Oh, the rifle, oh, the rifle, in our hands, will prove no dry bone. You may ride a good late speed, you may no sooner than master. You forward march with speed, but you'll learn to back much faster when you meet our mountain boys. And they'll lead their journey start. Glad you make what little noise you know always hit the mark. Hold the rifle, hold the rifle. In our hands we'll prove no trifle. Maggie no graves at home, back across the briny water. And Giddy must come, as well as Stu the slaughter. But if we the Jaws must do, then the sooner it is begun. If Clinton's figure hold a buck too, the quicker it will be done. Oh, the rifle, oh, the rifle, in our hands, will prove no true rifle. Oh, the rifle, oh, the rifle, in our hands, will prove no true rifle. I use the intelligence report, Mark and myself, and a couple snippets. I could probably find a better word, but I'm going to stand with that one. A couple snippets from history there, one by a marine general and another unknown author, but we can attribute it to the marching song for Daniel Morgan's rifle corps. So again, I'll do it. I'll even say it again. A couple snippets from history. I do believe you wanted to talk about 50 Calibers Mark. I hear a caller... Before we go any further with any callers, real quick, down your number, 4 Night Vision. I know you're not going to be available yet, but I want to get out there so it's in the archive. A lot of people listen tomorrow or the next few days out. Go ahead. Thank you Mark. Hey, if you want to talk about first, second, third generation gun sights, goggles, green screens, thermal, we can offer a piece of thermal that will live on top of your 50 now. Hooray! And basically for almost exactly like half the price of what a piece of thermal that would brag about that a year and a half ago. So if you're looking for any of the aforementioned items or into those categories, you can reach me at 231-796-8458. Again, 231-796-8458. We can talk about goggles or gun sights. Green screens are thermal. You guys give me a call. I'm happy to beat up the guy with the 800 number. Again, 231-796-8458. You'll say more than the cost of the number. Before we go to the caller, I want to go back to the Airsoft subject for just a moment. We've touched on this in a number of different ways, but when you said revolver, Mark, it makes me think, a lot of people when you hear the revolver in like six inch barrels and barrels so long, it's like, do you feel lucky? this thing is hard to hold up but you feel lucky at any rate, it makes you think of that producing the gun quickly there are other words for that you know the cowboy quick draw not necessarily to the extent that you know I'm going to shoot that snake as the rattlesnake as it starts to you know lunge at me rattlesnakes are really really fast you guys to shoot the rattlesnake after it starts to lunge at you would be gun handling to the nth degree, bragging rights beyond almost human ability. I put that there though, it's a real good measure. Revolvers or slide guns, you guys, that instant that you're reaching for it and bringing it out, bringing it to bear on the target, that needs to be practiced over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and but that is something that needs to be practiced acquiring the handgun from where you carry to bringing it to bear to the front to the quarter. Left or right. Okay, airsoft can be real good for that. Even, you know, we talk about make certain the gun is empty. Even the empty gun over time has been known to shoot someone. And I'd rather get shot in the foot or the knee or the elbow with airsoft than with my .45. I'm certain everybody, there's a few people out there that are grinning right now and most almost exactly everybody is agreeing with that basic statement. So with that we can move on you guys. Just the underscore of that airsoft handguns use them for that bringing draw and bringing the gun to bear as much as anything else. Okay, enough said on that. Let me see if I can fix this bit of You sound okay, Dan. That's good. We don't have any background coming through right now. Tell you what, before we get any farther, just a touch base, caller, we still have the 50 caliber subject to cover. Who do we have? Anybody there? Jump in. And it might just be a patient listener because that happens. We're not complaining about that. Hey Mark, it's on media. I'm just listening. Very good. And again, for our friends out there, 50 caliber shooting. Oh, I want to make a point. We had two weeks ago, we had training with the 50 cal and one of our new guys didn't realize remember that you have to you know cock it twice to fire the 50 cal. He stumbled, he only did it one time. When you're using the 50 cal remember you got to pull it back twice for the engage. Very good. Well again, a lot of the people out there, we have semi-auto M2s. There are a lot of other guns that were built before the big wave of .50 cal in the late 80s and 90s. In the 80s and actually in the 70s and the 60s, a lot of drop block and rolling block .50 cal were built custom. One of the big manufacturers here in Michigan back in the day, built a massive Remington Rolling Block .50 Cal's. I shot one of the first .50 Cal custom guns that I shot from a second floor window. It was about a 600 yard shot into a hay field, into a target area that was already set up. I didn't plan on shooting it. We went to the second floor and he goes, hey, check this out. and there was a table sitting right of course in the middle of where the window is facing on a certain angle the table was built to the floor I'm looking at it and he pulls this out and puts it up on the table and it fit perfectly and about a six foot barrel it basically looked very much like the Russian anti-tank 50 caliber rifles built in World War II both pre-World War II during World War II and little after. The Russians continue to make 50s and in fact even made a On steroids, copy of the SKS, the Semenov rifle, as a .50 caliber, guys. 10 round magazine basically just looks like imagine an SKS only in the bull fashion in all directions as massive very impressive gun. Five thirds of an SKS. Yeah. Yes. Even more. Well at least you didn't understand it. You know. But and a muzzle compensators guys so that's the one thing everybody learned a long time ago all the way back war to World War One. Gee, muzzle compensators are probably a good idea when you start getting up into light cannon rounds. Again, the 50s that we see today and those, to give you an example of those Remingtons, I believe that a total of only about 858 or so were built. The gentleman custom built them one at a time. He was a tool and die man that had worked for General Motors many years earlier and he just kept building them and perfecting the technology. Most of his barrels were Douglas barrels that he had custom built lengthwise. The compensators initially like with Barrett were the boys 55 caliber compensators because they were cheap. We could buy them for $1.50 apiece. Nobody wanted them. and they came brand new in the wrapper. So as soon as those started to dry up, the last models he made a cone type circular as far as the way it was built, but still with a lateral compensator left and right backwash. Nice, very well made, very well constructed. The finish was always in blued steel and he was meticulous with his finish. Probably done at the General Motors plant in one of the tanks there to be quite honest on. It's kind of neat. Thank goodness General Motors and Ford did a lot of good work for us over the years and we built up a massive arsenal of machinery and weapons. So, looking at the situation we have, for instance you've got a 50 right now, we would be supporting you with a fire team of four as we've talked about. The fireteam of four may still be supplemented with an assistant gunner and This is where a spotter is especially critical and it should be an assigned spotter It doesn't mean that every man in the fire team can't do this people in fact in reality as a 50 cal is designated or brought into a squad or a fireteam the entire team should work around that rifleman Because of what he should be familiar with it in a short term. Yeah including providing ammunition support. Just like think about it when you see in the movies if you've watched any of the Vietnam era or World War II movies everybody's carrying ammunition for the squad gunner. Well even though there may still be a squad gun in your unit you also carry ammunition for the 50. You also participate in trading out. Men do get hit in battle. Your primary spotter who should be attached to the rifleman constantly, permanently. In other words, if he's assigned, if that 50 cal gunner, if Don's assigned to it, then the spotter should be traveling with him. He will move with him. He is totally familiar with the weapon. He may be carrying, or typically is carrying, support tools and technology. If you have the manpower, a three man rather than a two man team is actually the preferred. And one of the reasons? More firepower projected. We don't have any parachutes dropping out of the sky. They're going to be giving us stuff. They might be trying to drop ordnance on us, but they're not going to be dropping goodies unless we take it from them. So going into the field, what you have is what you've brought with you and what your friendlies are willing to support. That's it. So think accordingly with regard to logistics. Especially again if you want that rifle to project. The rifleman will do his job. Now Don, optimal engagement range with the weapon you're presently using. Give everybody an overview and again its potential for daylight and nighttime use. Because daylight is different. Nighttime your ranges change, don't they? Oh yeah. That's a pretty good card to throw on the table. Let's do it like this. 100 yards. If the 50 hasn't barked that day, I'm going to let somebody with the 223, I'm going to let somebody depending on if he's standing behind a heavy tree, maybe that 308 will be brought to bear. And for the aforementioned reasons, they haven't heard the 50 today. That's tactical. Unto itself. Just that very thought line. Bear that in mind because, well, you know, They tend to keep their head lower farther away if they know that they can be hit farther away and you know that report is well, you know Franklin or Prudence is in the area today So again, this goes over to the right tool for the right job and you know Do you want to spend three dollars or five dollars to knock that one out compared to a you know 50 or 70 or a dollar five? Let's be real practical here, too Okay Again, if he's just, you know, if I'm looking at camouflage and I'm pretty certain that I'm looking at a profile target there, I'm going to send a .223 in there. Ralph, go get him. And if he's got the tree there, it's like, hey, bring up the .308 and punch through that tree. Now, if he's behind the cinder block wall with 100 yards, well, we might have to get prudence out. But then again, that .308 is going to just go bam bam through that cinder block, isn't it? not a whole lot of problem there. So he had the right tool for the right job. 600 yards in a heavy tree or four or five, 600 yards and you've been there. You know that he just fell into that little bit of a dip in the ground. And well, you don't want him to just get up and walk away. So now you start looking at penetration. But even still that 308 could, you know, maybe reach out and talk. The yardage isn't the question, it's the penetration. It's the horsepower when you get there. We could look at light vehicles in the same reference. By the time, well, that 223 gets out, you know, X hundreds of yards, it's not going to want to, you know, punch through that door panel, is it? Let alone something that's been even lightly armored up, like, you know, a Humvee's been treated to you're going to get me through the day, hopefully, kind of treatment, right? So, with that in mind, you can look at different situations, the right tool for the right job, but let's start to talk about, this goes back over to the right tool for the right job and send the right thing down range. Anti-personnel to about 400, depending on how sloppy the military ball is that I know how big the pattern is, it's grouped at X amount of yards. I might not want to send ball out beyond about 500 depending on the manufacturer and the performance maybe 600 yards to knock down a personnel target. Beyond that you're looking at bigger than pie plate. Oh if it's printing bigger than a pie plate what's under the helmet might not be impressed to the point that well you you know take it out of the game. It might just be impressed to the point that it tries to you know dig a deeper hole. It doesn't want to lift its head up anymore until they hear the report from that gun miles away. See how that works. But again, we could talk about beyond about 6, depending on what your military ball performance is, beyond about 6. Now if you're running at torso-sized targets, you could extend that military ball pretty much to about 6, maybe 700 yards. and face, square, torso, pretty much you're going to get hit. Because if you're looking at 1,000 yards, 18 to 20 inch groups, out of mill ball, that's pretty much a standard, you guys. The Israeli military might shoot a little bit bigger, but then depending on the Israeli ball is supposed to be the most accurate military ball, but that's contrary to the machine gun application. So they don't want to put bullets into a machine gun. They are going to shoot 1 and 2 inch groups at 1000 yards. That's contrary to the mission of a machine gun. Not to mention the gun itself isn't capable of doing that when you start to look into different applications. But beyond about 600 yards, anti-personnel, I would start to think about putting an AMACS into the chamber. Now if you've got a repeating 50, one of Ronnie's guns, or I think that they're Rock McMillan has a gun that has a box magazine and he has a gun that uses one of Ronnie's magazines. Be it the Barrett magazine referred to. You guys, you can't load an AMAX bullet to its blueprint length and load it into a Barrett magazine. If you're going to shoot AMAXes through that Barrett, you need to chamber it and close the bolt on it. And oh, you know, you're going to either hold the the follower below, push that round down so the bolt doesn't drag that next round up or you will not have a in order to that A-max. Now that right off the gate you're going to shoot smaller groups much smaller you're probably going to cut your group size to a third beyond about 600 yards maybe oh that might be a better statement to say beyond 700 or 750 yards, you will cut your group to a third of the size of your military ball, even shooting with a semi-auto gun like one of Ronnie's, the M82, as example. There are other semi-auto 50 caliber rifles on the market. But talking about, oh, the difference between a bolt gun and a semi-auto gun, as example right there, the AMACs will make you print smaller groups at know 700 750 even a thousand yards compared to the military ball the farther away it gets the the greater the example of you know the smaller group compared to that mill ball it's not military ball is not meant to shoot into small 100 yards hey send any other gun there depending on the cover you might want to bring it out but if it's at a hundred yards and you need to bring out the 50 you're probably going to want to send armor piercing down range well because again me if you If he's under such cover that the 223 and the 308 aren't going to really make him sweat, make him move, he's probably going to want the application of armor piercing. In mind, military armor piercing, incendiary tracer, generally just the armor piercing is a brush statement. American armor piercing is the most accurately produced to a number of different commercial bills. The A-Maxx is built. The A-Maxx, you guys, skipped Talbot, took six out of eight, or I think six out of eight first places in 2000, about clean clocks on every category. So that's bragging rights for the A-Maxx bullet, let alone Mr. Talbot. But for one bullet to just die like that, it's a bragging rights, you guys. Again, I wouldn't send an A-Maxx bullet at an anti-personnel at less than 500 yards. Why waste the deed? Looking out at 1,000 yard plus, there's no question if you're going to shoot against materiel, you know, of vehicles no matter what, send your armor piercing. If you're going to shoot against soft targets, send that AMACS in order that the group remains small enough that you can guarantee a hit. This goes over to, that you guys, if you cannot estimate yardage If you're looking down range and you don't have any mechanical way to estimate 700 or 900 yards and you try to count clicks up from your 100 yard zero and I think I've got a chart here somewhere and I'll work with this chart but I don't know the velocity of my bullet, you're not going to hit that. I encourage you with your .223 and with your .308 and with your .50 cal to get out and extend the abilities of those guns to their maximum of ability. You can do that with your .22 also. The example we're trying to work on here is, you guys, if I bring my .22 to the window here to what is a cat feeding station that is measured by laser 10 yards from the window, that's 30 feet from the bore, 10 yards and then I look down to the next likely place where a varmint would cross that I'd sic the 22 on. That's almost 30 yards and then the long distance for using that 22 maybe I don't think I'm going to shoot at a coyote out there unless it's standing still and looking right at me. I might be able to shoot his eye out at 67 yards. But each one of those is a different, beyond that 10 yard, is a different adjustment up from my 10 yard zero. Same thing works for your 50, you guys. Work ranges, work a drop chart, and while you're at it, if you're shooting different bullets through your gun, as example, in the aforementioned diatribe from Don, if you're shooting, as example, the military ball and military armor piercing, Now, 50 caliber, you can go to military armor piercing tracer incendiary. Wow, that's a mouthful right there, isn't it? But when it gets there, it's still got a whole lot of horsepower. And if it doesn't just crack, break it, shatter it, it might burn it down. I like that. You're doubling down on the bet, so to speak, and I ain't no gambler. Sometimes I strive to practice proper English, but I'd much rather enjoy doubling down on the bet than worrying about where the punctuation goes unless I'm talking about dotting eyes at a thousand yards. See how that works? Proper punctuation ain't it? So again, when you're building that drop chart, you're not just building it for your military ball, are you? You're building it for your armor piercing for your .50 caliber. You're building it for your AMAX too, aren't you? and you're not just stopping at a thousand yards with your 50 are you? Oh my gosh! So with that in mind you guys, three different bullets for your 50. Equate. All of those bullets are going to print. If you've got a hundred yard zero for your military ball, you'll be amazed at, wow, all of those bullets are going to print within a half inch of each other. They're going to shoot within the biggest, that military ball, for certain the AMACs is going to fall inside that. the group at 100 yards. For certain, the armor piercing incendiary tracer is going to fall inside the military ball at 100 yards. But you take them to two or four or seven or 1000 yards and look how big the groups are and what still holds small groups. You figure out what you want to send down range at 14 or 17 or 2000 yards. There you go, you guys are just a little, you know, thought line from down on yardage and 50 caliber and bullet. Thank you Mark, that was, thank you very much for opening that door. I was glad to walk into that room, thank you. One of the reasons is again, there's been questions about how best to integrate the 50s. Now there are three or four different schools of thought. Needless to say, ranging units that will be moving on their own can have a devastating effect on the battlefield, provided they know their targets. Needless to say, we can't just randomly move out there because we have a number of friendlies in addition to foe on the battlefield. The other is, as I mentioned, which is the scenario we're talking about, is integrating those heavy riflemen with a fireteam. One of the things you pointed out is using the weapon or not using the weapon. If they haven't heard it, don't let them fear or concern themselves until such time as you can lay in and devastate a series of targets or do significant damage at the behest of the fireteam leader or the platoon leader or the company commander, depending on how the 50 is being employed there. The other school gets into something that we've gone back and forth to and instead of just kind of going 50-50 we always do either A or B. The fire teams or the squad is where the 50s have gone or specialized weapons. Or all of a sudden the government gets the idea and militaries have tried making special weapons sections only or special rifle, heavy rifle units or heavy weapons units. In the platoon there will be four squads and then there will be a fifth squad which will be a weapons section. Which of course does give the platoon commander the flexibility to allocate as needed. He might keep the weapons section with him. If he's rather, shall we say, concerned about the battlefield he might keep him right next to him and give himself all the firepower and stay back to the rear. Wait a minute, that's not the way it's supposed to work. Yeah, but someone could do that. So... that's another consideration but we've gone back and forth we've taken and eliminated the weapons sections completely and then in many cases in the past have made weapons platoons now those still exist so again when you're talking this is why when I talk about formation of armies or battlefield units such as militia companies and battalions that odd man out is whether or not you have an entire platoon 40 or 50 men that are heavy weapons tech. They will have the .50 cal bolt guns, they'll have the mortars, they'll have belt fed guns, and it will be allocated in team effort because, you know, again with each squad you still have to break it down with support personnel and the heavy weapon itself. So there are still integrated riflemen with a heavy weapons section. The .50 as far as I'm concerned is best placed forward with the troops. Now it may still overwatch a unit. Let me give an example. That .50 caliber gunner doesn't have to be as close as everybody else. So literally the gunner can be moved through and beyond when you're a maneuver element. And the .50s can be a very long reaching stopgap or fickle finger, the hand of fate shooter that can take out to maximum range anything that comes within a sphere of control. Now this works two ways. He may perceive and identify a threat and neutralize it, number one. Or the platoon leader goes blasted I need Don's firepower here at this point. Don can you see that guy? Can you see that guy Don? In the window mud hut or brick building Second floor, third window from the right. The second building from that intersection, northwest corner? I need your fire. That is a crack. Over. Okay, fire for effect. Watch this. Boom! And of course, plop, plop, and well, that problem is eliminated which allows the unit to move forward or continue to maintain its pace. Kind of a stationary overwatch of those that are bounding. Exactly. And it's fixed beyond, that rifleman is fixed temporarily beyond the fire maneuver, just as you point out, where you know, move out of got you covered, covering you and moving out. When you do this, as we've said, it's like two hands moving in a squad, but also the squads can be moving as two different, two separate hands, ten and ten. So that rifleman, rather than just the fixed fire support that's close, you also have that long range and penetration and the ability to oversight all of the support unit you're supporting while you're in the field now the gunner still needs to be looking to the next you know point of control they need to be looking at or anticipating I want that position that's my way move away let's point out the mistake that that gunner made hanging out of the window so that he could be seen and and he could be pointed out by directing he could have another gun directed to he was basically doing the old cowboy thing hanging out of the window he was shot by a guy who was almost in the hallway of another building shooting him through a window and he would have never had he looked directly at that window, never seen the threat. Understand that and think about now you look at depth in a battlefield and even just that 10 or 7 or 10 or 12 foot of depth away from the window can confound the enemy and greatly extend your life. And this is a consideration because guys, the other side is working in a similar fashion as I've pointed out, eliminate their heavy riflemen. This is where rifle duels are going to become a reality very quickly. The placement marksman on the other side is the highest priority for extermination. All fires, if I were a fire team leader and I obviously I'd keep them busy in their cluster screws. See this is where you got a challenge. You want to get rid of the rifleman. So you have a certain team whose job it is to do that. But if you see these cluster screws like you're seeing with the Boston, you know, scam, and you had a whole pile of them in one place. Well, you know, Mr. Grenade, Mr. Anti-Tank weapon, everything. All fires would go to bear. Every rifleman's job would be to put a bullet in the meaner of everything that was standing there. because that's the cleanest, best, most efficient shot you're going to get. Otherwise everybody's going to be ducking for cover. But when they're all puffed up and arrogant, that arrogance will survive for a period of time if they're not told what happened and how the doom of the other unit was met. That's why I've said before, you don't send somebody back out. You don't let any of them escape. The next batch are just as stupid and arrogant as the first batch, if they don't know what happened. Exactly. You see how that works? Well, they were stupid. We're not. We're really smart. They're really stupid. Ha ha ha. Boom! And they're all dead again. You get doubles on that. You see how that works? Again, don't, you're not going to change your tactics because they've got to keep them puffed up just the way they are. 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