VIP membership is radio with benefits. Oh yeah! Your favorite music from around the world right at your fingertips. Exclusive content, unlimited commercial free access. Try it risk free. That's free for five days at Live365.com slash VIP. Live 365. Not to hunt, it's to protect yourself from the police. Anybody that wants to disarm me can drop dead. Anybody that wants to make me unarmed and helpless. People that want to literally create the proven places where more innocents are killed called gun-free zones. We're gonna beat you. We're gonna vote you out of office or suck on my machine. A figure walking through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three cornered hat and speaking low to me he said, We've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations this legacy we gave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom is gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money is spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate and your Christian values can't be taught. According to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press. And you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children will be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic in each God-given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch in tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land? And good evening, ladies and gentlemen. This is the evening intelligence report. I'm R. Kornke. And I'm Don Betcher. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines in occupied territories west, southwest, east, and northeast. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to us on ... Liberty Tree Radio dot 4MG, a com around AIM, an FMI, my cross station, CB Bay stations, and alternate technologies east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska. Good afternoon to the Aleutians, 3 hours plus 4 hours behind us. 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So, we wave to the left coast, turn back to the sweep across the plains, leap over the burgeoning banks of the Mississippi. Gravity sucks, all that water's going somewhere, and it's headed south. Well, in addition to that, the Smokies, where the restaurant crews, grandma teams, okay teams, and the Ma Bell Grammar Consortium of retired telecommunications workers bring us. the Golden Spike. Many hands make for light work. Alternative communications separate from the regular internet. We have to keep focusing on that. I know some people have been doing it for a long time and it's become second nature. We need to have that continue to happen. We also need to grow. So keep up the good work. Don, blue skies, medium temperatures here, air slightly coming out of the north, a little bit of a breeze. What's it like in your neck of the woods and what is this special date today, sir? Well, it is the fourth day of 2013. Too bad as far as we can keep track of the calendar. It's to keep track of the government we have to worry about. Yep. It is a particular day though and with that in mind I have the magazine in one hand, the handgun in the other and with that single death motion the magazine is in the magazine well and with another slight of hand. Oh, he touches that little slide release there and the slide jumps forward and now we've stripped one out of the magazine and up into the chamber and we've got one in the chamber. That's all well and good but I'm lacking one in the magazine now and I'm about to remedy that so I drop that magazine out and down and back goes that completed cartridge and back into the magazine well goes the magazine and we can tell everybody it is Weapons Wednesday, the perimeter is secure and there is plenty more where that came from. And that means we can offer equal opportunity course of force be it our handguns slash the hand cannons Shotguns which by the way there's a wide selection of and we can work up into light rifles MVR main battle rifles and then support weapon systems and long-range placement rifles such as the 50 the 338 Lapua 20 millimeter single shot rifles and a whole lot more you name it. It's out there Lotties sloth rooms even a couple of other one pounders which is an interesting gun by the way I should mention the one pounder was out there for a long time Don you've always enjoyed mentioning the naval Gatling guns well the naval Gatling guns are certainly in the rifle calibers but they were in all the way up to three pounder, two pounder, one pounder, two pounders and three pounders the one pounder was the most common initially for dealing with the smaller craft or raking the decks of ships where the guys that were trying to rake our decks were raked by the guys we had on our decks raking their decks and they would fire back and forth with reckless abandon throwing Massive chunks of steel and lead downrange Some of them only had three barrels others had five the bigger they got well the fewer barrels typically were involved and they went all the way up to 75 millimeter with the crank Gatling's I don't know what kind of gear work there had to be in the machine for that, but you find even French 75 Gatling cannons built during World War I. Which is like whoa, okay? Who's the guy running that machine crank crank crank crank? Yeah, he's got one side That's a lot bigger than the other you know what I mean because usually one muscle one shoulder works more than the other in that and the crank was only on one side Yeah, the guy like the guy all he's owned all his life is that kickstart sportster Yeah, and if he doesn't have a compass he's walking in left-handed circles. He's really muscular on one side Yeah, he wins all the arm wrestling matches in the unit you know that Except when he runs up against the rest of his battery crewmen that do the same job. Anyway, so the Gatling obviously is not new, but especially it was popular and in service in a number of different modes. Back around the turn of the 1900s through to the, you know, to, well, forgive me, the 1800s to the 1900s. Then we see a reinvention of it with the GE guns. Now it's interesting in between there, they went the other way around and actually went with revolving cannons, or revolver cylinder cannons, where you can see probably the best picture of variation that is go to the Sabre jet. Take a look at the gun packs that were on board the aircraft and you'll see an example of a cylinder gun, which is again less machinery but remember the one barrel takes all the punch so that means that one barrel probably wear it out a little faster there just kinda went we do the wobble wobble and I guess we probably ought to change this one and the rest of them too depending on whether or not the guy had a shall we say a lead thumb when it came to the fire control because guys with guns like that the cyclic rate being a tad high and even though it's cool at higher altitude it ain't that cool okay Another thing I was mentioning, barrels, yes, M3 .50 caliber barrels can be used for any of the .50 caliber bolt guns that you want to build. So just something to think about there. The M3s are out there in force. Those are the aircraft guns, aircraft barrels. Not as popular. And remember that with regard to internal machining with both the M2.50 and the M3 aircraft barrels, they are stellite lined. That's all you're not gonna do a dang thing to that that chamber you will bust reamers oh yeah kill the cows come home yeah that's the one thing we gotta warn you about is you see government was thinking that through because we were talking about their wear and tear and put a little more life on that the stellite liners became the norm uh... and again it did it stretch the life out of the weapon because another thing to remember about aircraft guns is that they wanted to pepper or saturate an area they didn't want a sniper rifle They want something more like a shotgun burst. Under the logic that, you know, again, something's going to hit somebody. Machine guns, belt-fed machine guns work the same way. Contrary to what you would think, a squad gun or a belt-fed gun should have a cone of destruction. In other words, there's enough agitation and variation that they have a cone of saturation where the bullets spread out enough that it's kind of like a repeat one round after another spread into an area like a shotgun burst. The BAR was notoriously accurate as an automatic rifle. Most people know that men could spell their names with them just like the Thompson. And as far as range goes, The BAR was as accurate as the Springfield or the 1917 Enfield at all ranges. Another scary thought, but any time could go full auto. The M60 was overly accurate when it was first put into service. Unlike the squad gun that it was supposed to be, it was so tight, and in fact had other issues because of that, with regard to dirt and grime, that it actually was putting one round on top of the other and tolerances had to be slopped back out. because the gun was too tight. Actually the groups were not sufficient. They weren't proper for the type of performance that was going to be expected from the squad gun or from again a belt-fed, you know, crew-serve weapon system. So there are variations in methods and madness with regard to the engineering ideas that come from the laboratory and end up on the battlefield. Know the weapon system you're looking at. Let me give you an example. A lot of Madsen belt-fed machine guns are going to come out of the woodwork when things go to hell in a hand cart. You all know that? Anybody out there ever seen a Madsen belt-fed machine gun? Ah, now by the way, it used to be if you were a render revolution crew or if you were around in the 70s and 80s a lot of the mats and guns showed up as auxiliary weapons even in Vietnam with US forces, especially SF units and people who were working with the Vietnamese defense units because the Vietnamese defense units bought whatever they could get their hands on. Typically they bought them from the CIA or they bought them from the or they got them gifted from the Donate of Destruction and they got them from people like Century International Arms or other rental revolution companies. Well the Mattson was a very reasonably priced gun. There was lots of ammunition available and because it was a colonial type weapon many of the troops or people that were going to be using it actually were familiar with the gun. So the Matson showed up in force both in the Southeast Asian conflict at different times but later on in South America and Central America was purchased by the armies there and it was also sold to the revolutionaries there on the other side because hey they knew where they could get more ammo. It was over there on the other side of the barbed wire. See how that works? So the matson in kit form showed up for 60 70 80 dollars including spare barrels lots of belts all kinds of fun stuff a lot of people built those So there's a lot of matson guns out there another one World War one vintage belt fed technology guys they were a whole lot of those carried back in World War one just like a lot of brownings were carried back in World War two and Like a lot of our brothers carried M60s in parts and parts and pieces and parts during Vietnam and after Vietnam. You're going to find a lot of M60s coming up out of the woodwork. It's not the first choice because a lot of people, man, it's got this problem or it's got that, hey, it was free. Well, it wasn't really free. The guy risked his life every day for one, two or three tours, so he figured as long as he was doing that, he might as well get his money's worth. And a lot of guys, you know, it was kind of like, I shipped it one part at a time and it didn't cost me a dime and it showed up on my doorstep back at home. And I really didn't need those tall speakers, but they went home for me. That's right. They went home for a reason. Well, again, the idea is back in the day until 66, 67, everything that was put in a box went straight to your doorstep. What messed that up was the people bringing back cash and stuff like that. They were worried about the dope, supposedly. But even after 66, as several of my friends pointed out, the guys I served with and people we know right now, if you wanted to get a weapon home, you had to pick up three. In other words, if you wanted to send home a Peppish or an AK or a Tokerab pistol, you had to have one for your inspector, one for the postmaster, and one for your box to go home. And everybody was happy. No matter what the condition or the shape, they were grease guns. They didn't care. They didn't care because you know what? They didn't go out and get their butt shot off to pick them up. So they were happy with whatever they got. So you kept the best for you. You kept the other for the guy who was going to send you his home anyway. Somebody had to grease some palms. Yeah, remember guys, he didn't stay over in Vietnam. If you gave it to the postmaster, what the hell do you think he was doing with it? Well, it wasn't sitting in the post office you get my drift So a lot of stuff and in fact whole units are outfitted with real a K's real whatever's depending on where they were Force Popular Forces over in Vietnam were issued a lot of French equipment now part of this was holdovers such as the matte machine guns moss rifles But they also ended up with supplemental issue that was purchased from Century Arms and dumped on the market Interestingly enough, I worked with the gentleman who was in charge of I-Corps intelligence for Vietnam, for four or five tours. What's interesting is he pointed out, he goes, oh yeah, in fact he was surprised when I mentioned Sentry, he goes, you mean, Rent a Revolution is still in business? And he kind of chuckled and we laughed back and forth. He goes, oh, they called it that back then too? He goes, oh yeah, they were known as Rent a Revolution. We buy guns one minute, pick up guns from somebody else, trade them back in like bottle caps, and get something else good for the price. So again a lot of stuff that you know people go well How do you get that in Vietnam guys? Anything in a combat zone any weapon that can pull the D or you can pull a trigger and put a bullet downrange ends up in a combat zone Right now if you look at the real pictures not the cropped BS photos from the controlled media Go to YouTube and start watching a lot of these home videos One of the things got done one of our call at one of our listeners I'm sorry in the chat room posted a whole bunch of pictures that were up by you know, we found them randomly on YouTube and where different guys are carrying MP44s. And as I pointed out, that weapon is very solid. Really, there's nothing you can do to wear that gun out. I'm going to tell you that right now, guys. If you haven't looked at an MP44, there's no reason for them not to be in service 40, 50 years after World War II. The the gun is just it's heavier It's just when most people because you know we all complain because we had a seven pound rifle so we had to make five pound rifles my God Okay, but the average was the average weight of the grand the men were carrying in the world war two nine pounds the key word Yeah, men yeah, so here we have laid and pick up your rifle. Yeah, run kill Jerry You name it we're seeing it show up and especially stuff that we you know is bargain basement price right now Check submachine guns, which is where the Israelis stole the Uzi design from. The Uzi didn't invent that submachine gun, he stole it from the Czechs. All the stuff you see the Israelis do is just thievery. They just go steal from somebody else, paint it up, put a loser name on it if they can. Well nowadays they put loser names on them. Like Masada, you know, you shoot somebody for a little bit and then you blow your brains out with it. Then you feel good. You're supposed to be all proud. Well, the thing is that Check some machine guns Brazilian weapons Argentinian weapons Even stuff from the Caribbean now, I'm gonna point something out. I've noticed here If you watch in a couple of videos down, there's some guys carrying one guy runs behind. It looks like he's carrying a carbine But it looks weird like he's got something else that was homemade or something guys. That's not homemade If you scroll back and you freeze it, you'll notice there's two or three guys carrying Dominican Republic defense rifles. Back during the 40s, 50s, and 60s, what was the dominant cartridge that the U.S. was giving away? carbine ammo and .30-06. So guess what? If you were another country and some of them just decided to make their own weapons because it was that national pride thing, well a whole bunch of carbine type firearms were built around the Caribbean and they were issued in good quantities to that military, not millions of them. They only made so many hundred thousand or so many thousand depending on how big or small the country was and because they could make them cheap, they did market them out. Well, the Rent a Revolution companies bought these, kind of like remember in Uncommon Valor where he goes, you know, $1,000, $2,000, $3,000, these require a week of notification. He goes, your menu is a little rich for my wallet. And he goes, come with me. And he goes, you know, he looks down one aisle and you're thinking, oh, those are the dusty. He goes, no, no, no, bargain basement is over here, you see. And that's what happens. You know, they would, you got to figure, they buy up and what they do is they route stuff to a tunnel, they route stuff to an arms bin, they route stuff to, you know, the storage area so that, well, you got Moss Rifles, they're over there in Quarter 14. Well, eventually you pile up a bunch of stuff and it's like, you know what, we got enough of this one, we see if we can make a deal with somebody, okay? Frank, you're a salesman, do it. And so here are these guys that need weapons. Yeah, you could buy brand new AKs for $150 a piece, but if you look over here, you can get 4,000 of these for the price of 100 AKs. Wow! Well, you see, that's awfully enticing if you only need defense rifles for rear area troops. Unless you're one of those 4,000 got to carry it. Yeah, exactly. Well then it's like, well it's a little heavier, but it's a K98 Mauser, it's an Arasaka rifle. I mentioned the Madsen. Now I'm going to tell you something guys, you will run into these. Most of them are virtually brand new, unshot Don. The Madsen bolt-action rifle, post-World War II, was the last bolt-action rifle officially adopted by any country that was a new production rifle. It incorporated the lessons we learned from the 1903 A3 Springfield. For all practical purposes, the piers have been made basically on US military machinery, in fact a US mil spec. Phosphate, park rise finished, but it had a pepper box flash hider muzzle compensator. Now these are beautiful rifles. Typically they may have either the 5 or 10 shot internal magazine. It incorporated a lot of stamped parts the same as the 03A3 and it's built in 30-06. Now there were some built in 7mm Mauser because 7mm was also down there in South America. But, Madsen successfully marketed this rifle and it was sold. Now for whatever reason they put a stock on it that I do not understand only for one reason. I fired... now the Madsen is as big as the 1903 Springfield. Guys, I have shot tens and hundreds of thousands of rounds of 30 out of 6 through my Springfield. Since Springfield I've used or owned over the years. And they're not punishing. But the Madsen, for whatever reason, with the angle of the comb of the stock and however they decided to build it, it is a beater rifle even with a 1.5 inch rubber recoil pad. It is a beater rifle. When we first ran into these we had some virtually brand new that we picked up back in the early 70s, actually middle 70s, 74, 75. And thought, wow, it's in 30 out of 6. We got it for $65 a piece, which back in that day was a little bit of money, but still 65 is reasonable. It was a brand new gun right out of the box circa 1951. And at 30.06 we had thousands of rounds at 2 cents a round. Guys we could shoot 30.06 for a penny to 2 cents a round all day. Okay? So we got to the range and perfect rifle marksmanship, dug into the shoulder there, made, oh especially that rubber butt pad felt pretty good. Touched off the rifle and oh what the hell was that? Now it's a beautiful firearm. Now I know why most of them were never shot. Brand new in the box, maybe only 20 of them in the arsenal were used. Actually, I don't know why except that perhaps for smaller men, because the design of the rifle was built for a smaller person. You've got to remember, South America, going to Venezuela, Peru, Chile, the average person in that country is what, 5'4", 5'2". They are not as tall. There are taller people now, they are getting more food, whatever, but the average native is smaller and those are the people who are being drafted into service. They are own people, they are not hiring mercenaries. So the only thing I can figure is that the cant of the stock and the angle of the stock was designed specifically for that smaller stature person. But an average person 6 foot tall, the other gentleman with me, Jeff, he fired and experienced it the same way. and we had, you know, full cheek weld, shoulder weld, didn't have any space or gap, and it just plain bit you. The only other gun that's like that, and you have to be careful of, only because it's a good pistol, but the Mauser HSC. Beautiful looking gun. Excellent pocket pistol. It has absolute clean lines. You will not snag that gun up if you're pulling it out of anywhere you got it. If you put it in a pocket, it come out just like grease. It has a flush face cocking system. But if you don't grip that gun right, it will let you know and we'll bite your hind end first time every time with that slide coming over the meat of your hand between the thumb and the index finger. It's just either you're right or you aren't going to like it. And that's just something to warn you about. These are two guns. I do not know the... but I will say this, the Matson is accurate, comparable to the Springfield. When I was firing that gun and as I've tested those rifles and we found consistent as we got some others for about $40 a piece, you know, back when Mauser's were $40 a piece, we got some of them again that were used and you know, tired, they weren't tired, they were just you know, broken in. And I saw no difference in the gun. But if you run into them and you somebody inherits them, that's a 30-06 rifle. It is a serviceable weapon. I'm just warning you to be prepared for and you might want to experiment. You might find hey that guy is five foot or five foot two or you know some smaller people. I would experiment. We never did do that. I don't think it makes sense in this day thinking back is that it had to be configured for a smaller stature individual. So the stock rides in a particular way. Remember guys, guns are built that way. They actually take recoil into consideration. Example, most of your single action Civil War pistols, notice how they have that nice smooth arc back to them. And if you pay attention to how the recoil is set up, it's almost so natural. Your thumb just pops right to the hammer and click it right back on target because it's single action. A natural extension of your arm, boom. And the motions that are out there. Yeah, exactly. So again, just warnings. These are great weapons. I mean, they're still... The Mauser HSC, I owned a real low-digit pre-war model, actually right at the beginning of World War II models. A collector got hold of that. I bought it from somebody else that brought it back from the war. I know it's where it's needed to be. But I fired the gun using brand-new Fiacci ammunition back in the day. Standard load. nothing fancy, I don't like abusing those weapons. And again, it's just a beware. The HSC, you've got to get a good grip on the frame and again, don't ever cross your thumb over the back of an automatic. You know, over your hand, over the back of an automatic, guys. I've seen this over and over again. Some people are even doing it at the range right now in some of these videos. First of all, most shooters shouldn't even have thumbs. If you're a handgun shooter, just something to take into consideration. I know that sounds weird, but that's the basic rule. In other words, your left hand thumb, when you grip the weapon in a double handed combat stance or posture, that left thumb should be riding neutral to the side of the other thumb and it should be neutral also. Your fingers and your hand the palm the index muscles and the thumb muscles are controlling at the cruck of the of the pistol But other than that remember if that you teach people put that thumb over the back of the weapon and it's an automatic a lot of people do with revolvers you can do it all day, but with an automatic remember There's a sliding part and it has a tendency to give you a stipple if you're not paying attention You'll find out about indexing with a you know hardcore steel machine against flesh Kachunk, kachunk, kachunk, you ever wonder what it would be like to stick your hand in a punching machine? Well, you could do that with a .45. Ow, ow, ow, ow, ow, ow. So, just want to bring that up. Again, the reason I bring this up in general is that there's a lot of weapons you'll be running into or a lot of weapons. Well, I highly recommend you Paroo's YouTube. or any other video service you want. I don't care which one it is and I don't care where you go but you need to start looking at weapons that wow I've never seen that before. Now I also bring this up with the new weapons. I'm not going to own a scar. I might take one off a body someday and it's pretty straightforward and it's really nothing more than an AR platform type weapons so all the parts and pieces are where they basically need to be to get it to operate. It's when it comes to maintenance where you have to think a little more. Another example, mortars. You're probably not going to get hold of a mortar, but you know what? If you go to YouTube, you can watch crew after crew operating 40s, 60s, German World War II equipment, Japanese, you know, defense mortars. Don't call them knee mortars because they weren't, okay? You know, break your leg. Yeah, very bad, very embarrassing. Ha ha, man, can you fight for your leg? Not you. Ah, you have bokom pot. Why know why? Funny round eyes, funny. Yes, anyway, the idea is that any tank weapons, most people are saying, well, Mark, I'll never handle an anti-tank, I have never handled any tank weapon before. Go to YouTube. You want to watch a Carl Gustaf in service? Go to YouTube. You want to see a 90 millimeter recoil is in service in a hundred different ways? Go to YouTube. And I'm not talking about like somebody just goofily playing with it. I'm talking about people on the range practicing as crews and teams. Pay attention to what they do. Everything is choreographed for a reason so you don't lose a head, a hand, an arm, and so that when you fire it you probably kill what's at the other end of the tube when your time comes down range. It'd be nice to pay attention to teachers and instructors who are mechanically using the equipment because typically they're doing it right. Now there are also examples of doing it wrong and I really really really would pay attention to some of those because they will teach you lessons so you don't get burned yourself Remember, learn from the mistakes of others, you won't live long enough to make them all yourself. In fact, you probably won't live long at all. allow you ever to do it ever again the right way. That's right. It's the terminal way. Okay? So again, lessons learned and tutorials slash instruction. We're at the bottom of the hour so we'll take a break. Don, your number for night vision is we're going to break, please. Hey, that number's two three one seven nine six eight four five eight two three one seven nine six eight four five eight. And we'll be right right at you. Your number for night vision technology. You're going to be available about half an hour. Hey, that number's two three one seven nine quick reminder here I know the guys mentioned that yeah they got m14 cut back halves special select m14 receiver half big paper weight for $24.95 special one each of m14 receiver half receiver fronts Special, one of each. That means there are two. I'm going to have to call them on that one so they can qualify that. But if you pay attention, you can get a front half and a back half. And those usually are cut at different points. So down the road, if you were paying attention, you could overlap one with the other. come as close as possible, your filler rods would make up the difference. And guys, people have done re-welds for years. The secret is the jig, which is nothing more than a big steel anvil that you've cut to spec that the front and rear receiver sit in so that you can line up the parts. That's the machine part that becomes the guide. OK. Then you fill in a weld accordingly. It's interesting that today with the rods, actually this is true 20 years ago, with the new rods that have been in place, you can literally make the weld stronger than the original weapon. That's what's fascinating the metal that makes up the weld would be stronger than the existing Steel that was used to build the weapon in the first place now There's a lot of re welded garands and car beans out there the m14 because that's an m14 receiver I'm going to tell you to be patient and you know be prepared but wait because again, you don't want any problems because it's a Select weapon and although it has the option I personally would not build the m14 as an m14 it build as a automatic firearm to begin with. Now everybody goes, yeah but you have the option. It's like yeah well burning .308 and popping around is over somebody's head and that doesn't impress anybody okay. Some but not very many and after a while when you become experienced not at all. The important thing is that the M1A and the slash the M14 is a battlefield supremacy weapon with regard to accuracy. Just like Dom's 50 cal, just like that 338 Lapua, just like that 7mm Remington mag or the 300 wind mag or all the other belted mags that are out there. They were designed so that when you pull the trigger, that antelope, that mule deer across the ridge, you know, a thousand yards away, well, he never hears the, because the bullet gets there first. Okay, and it gets there fast enough it does a fine job of you know terminating the target with extreme prejudice. To be quite honest the one thing that nobody is wants to talk about is and I've we've mentioned this many times. Guys would you really if you're on the other side you know we're not going to be doing anything and worrying about how to kill them as hard and fast as we can. You've shot a deer, you've probably gutted a deer or at least you've you know cleaned one of the animals that you had to shoot. Think about getting hit with a 300 win or a 30-06 or even your 30-30 with a Winchester hollow point or a soft point round. Well Mark, they're wearing body armor. Yeah, I know. That's why I'm not going to shoot them in the body armor. So again, if you blow a leg, I mean you know what's going to happen if you hit a leg. And for all the flexible armor, they'll almost wish they weren't wearing it because remember, bullets follow the path of least resistance. If you know the overlap or lay of the armor, you place the bullet accordingly. The bullet scuds along under the logic of physics. It follows the path of least resistance to the edge of the armor, scuds into the soft, chewy stuff, snaps up a bone, chops a whole bunch of stuff into pieces. Because remember, it's probably scimitarred a little bit by now, too. So it's not even a uniform cylinder going in and then expanding. It's much worse. If it hits a leg, well, have you shot Bambi in the upper shoulder and done the autopsy after you've killed it before you decided to have it for barbecue? If you have then you just think about the other side and what they're going to look like with God knows how many people with how many were hunting rounds because they can't find anything else. Remember the well they've cut off this and they've cut off that. Oh I see. So the average America is going to have to go with what? 160 to 180 grain soft point or hollow point or match king bullet. a nozzler bullet there would be another one that's very common right now and when they hit it the other end it's going to do just exactly what it's supposed to do now after somebody gets a chance to see that after they pull the trigger they're going to go ah gone that's a solution yeah like bing like the light bulb going on there exactly hey that's what I need to do and you'll focus more on accuracy than you will on spray and pray Because once you realize if I killed them or if I hurt them severely they don't come back. And like they said remember was that we were soldiers? Remember he goes, oh what do we do? Kill them all until they don't send anymore. Oops. See how that works? Just kill them all. Now that doesn't sound nice but you know what you've got an aggressor yeah it works and you got a bunch of crazy town people that want to come in and do nasty stuff to America well there's only one way to get rid of that problem kids that's just all there is to it. Anyway Don I know you got other subjects go ahead and jump in because there are other things we've covered but also sounds like we have a bunch of dings here let's check real quick do we have any callers and we might just have a bunch of patient listeners and I understand that because we have a lot of people out there doing the I know that. Hello, Mark. Oh, go ahead, caller. Who do we have? I'm from Wisconsin, and how do you do? Hey, very good to chip in there. Earlier you were talking about handgun shooting, and I've done a considerable amount of that myself, and I've found that if you have your two thumbs, if you have them positioned correctly, that all, if a better term, match up. You know where one knuckle will Exactly one will ride with the other the first when you cup the weapon the best way to describe it is the thumb should not grip But instead should ride or should be put would be purled is what it's called away from the weapon The second right there should cup and then ride parallel to the thumb the first thumb and that way you have control of them go ahead Your thumbs should be slightly folded down and your both of your your wrists on both your hands should be a little bit forward that will absorb virtually all the recoil from the handgun even shooting like a .44 mag. Exactly. Yeah, the whole idea is bring the weight of your body forward, not off balance. You know, call grasshopper. We have to make sure that you are balanced so you can use both the regs. The idea is to become a skeletal platform. Part of what But I do not see that as properly addressed is, and you've got the right idea, you're right on the mark of, again, we're bringing the weapon under control and we're resting it in such a way, but taking control of it so that we work as a shock observer. But on top of that, the other thing is, What in fact you'll see this I'll tell you the only place I've seen that demo not the only place but the best one I've seen if you watch last of the Mohicans you ever watch you ever watched the new Remake of last the Mohicans the one that was done back in the 90s There's a kid there's a couple of scenes there like when he takes aim to shoot the one British officer the one the one Mogway if you watch there's one scene there that I think is a great expression where he's got the weapon up and he settles You see him physically settle and that's how rifleman that's what you're doing. You're literally Compressing so you don't even have The working parts between, like the cartilage is rested, the bones are rested. You literally, and this is something to become second nature with enough experience. Handgun shooters and rifle shooters do the same thing. There's always a competition in Yap back and forth about this, because when a guy gets to become a little tired pistol shooter, they say, hey, time to go pick up a rifle and join the belly gunners. Under the logic, they get to lay around and shoot. Okay, but no matter how they do it, prone, sitting or standing with rifle or in any position with pistol, settling and centering is key to accuracy. And then again control the handgun itself. All these things are factors that with enough training and proper conditioning and using Airsoft to start this off is a way to do it because Airsoft is very sensitive. The cool thing about Airsoft is that the light pistols, especially the single shots, are actually in not well balanced by comparison to say that the gun that you're probably going to handle but they've got the basic form and because they're sensitive you're actually forced to take the other factors into consideration early on and so that's something that helps. Go ahead please. Right. I've had a number of guys ask me about you know what to do about practicing and I told them to buy an air rifle by a pillow gun Because here's the thing about pellet guns. If you shoot like . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . That pellet's leaving the muzzle at only about 550 feet per second. One-sixth the velocity, which means it takes the pellet six times as long to go down the barrel, which means you have to really concentrate on your basic marksmanship in order to shoot an air rifle well. So that internal ballistics event line, that's a real good point. This is a tremendous observation. It really is. Right. Right. That's the reason why I tell guys to buy an air rifle and practice with an air rifle because you can buy a tin of target-grade pellets still for like $7 or $8 and a tin holds 500 pellets. And you can practice in your garage because you only need Like you only need, or your basement, you only need 33 feet. That's a standard air rifle range. 10 meters, 33 feet. And it's great practice. I practice in my garage all the time with both my air rifle and my air pistol. And like I said, really, and it magnifies any mistakes so that you know, like you were saying, Mark, That's referred to as natural point of aim when you settle in. Exactly. You get your natural point of aim so you have to really practice and focus on the basic principles of marksmanship when you use an air rifle or an air pistol. One of the things I would bring up and it's hard to explain on the air but this is one of the first things I teach people with pistol marksmanship is this where your settle point is I could tell everybody you will do exactly this this way and you'll do it my way and the way I'm doing it but that's not how it works with each shooter one of the tricks is you get a person first of all teach them about leg you know positioning of the legs shoulder street or shoulder construction how they should be holding the weapon and Teach them to properly again flex the wrist, how the elbow should be controlled, how they should be gripping the training aid. It does not, it's don't even have to have a handgun that's active for this guy's. This is where Airsoft comes in real handy again or the pellet pistol unloaded. What you do is you get the person to close their eyes and you have them take a natural position, for instance a two-handed combat stance. Now experiment. First of all take the position as we've instructed as you've seen and everybody does. Now, move your arm to the right. Do you feel overstressed? Where do you start to feel overstressed? And you'll go, oh, right here. Now, come back to the left. Where do you feel overstressed? Right there. Now, I want you to come back and I want you to find the center of that with your eyes closed. Now what happens is remember you also are telling them they're going to control their legs. They're going to be Skelecally supporting the rest of their body. It's going to sit on itself What you do is then after you've got them is that where you're comfortable? Do you feel comfortable with that? Yes, open your eyes now the target is downrange and forgive me I should have mentioned this you already have the target downrange and you instructed them that there is a target downrange You've already got it established in the normal normal distance and you're on the firing line now you have them first look at the target and look at where their arm is presently positioned. Now take a look at your foot position, the position of your feet, your actual stance. Now I don't want you to adjust your arms to the target. Wrong! I want you to look at your position, your natural position of rest. I now want you to adjust your legs so that you are re-centering your whole person to the center of the target within the perfect zone of control. that centering. Now by doing this you now have a position to orient to whenever you are taking up a combat stance. Now it doesn't mean you're not going to take an overstressed shot. In other words if you have to turn beyond that radius left or right in order to engage something you will do it but the majority of the times that you are practicing, you reinforce this, it will become a natural thing for you to do in the field. and it will increase probability of hit a hundred fold just right off the bat. If it's an offhand shooting and you're doing offhand side side station shooting same technique. because it's not necessarily correct for you to try to stretch your arms straight out from the center side of your body. There's going to be an issue, for instance, people have different injuries. I've always brought this up. Young people and old people, middle people in between, are built differently. What you want to do is find what their comfort niche or their centering niche Then get them used to the idea that in order for them to engage that person or engage that target or to hit what they're trying to shoot at They need to be in the groove in that slot. So they adjust their body accordingly Now if everybody listening tries this with your eyes closed you do this with your eyes closed and again you do the same thing with offhand you do the same thing with prone fire just because I'm prone doesn't mean I'm gonna have even though I have all that extra support doesn't mean there isn't a better position that I can find for my rest position to settle myself by doing that that first round hit probability went up so dramatically that the bad guys are going to start to worry real fast And again, it becomes part of, standard operating procedure becomes part of your conditioning to the point where it totally changes the result on the battlefield. Go ahead, jump in there please. Exactly, that's what we refer to as natural point of aim and I just had a thought, I don't know how many people out there have shot traps. I've shot a lot of traps too. I've done a shooting period but when you shoot trap, You don't point your body at the house. Point your body where you plan on breaking the bird. And then you turn off the gun and you turn towards the house and then you call for the bird. And then it's more natural to follow through if your body is pointing when you break the bird. It's the same thing. You have natural point of aim both with rifle shooting and handgun shooting and shotgunning. Right and and another thing I'm sorry. I won't interrupt and so nothing I found with handgun shooting Like I said, I've done a lot of competitive hand-pinching is that if you're if you're right-handed You try what I did was I put my left foot slightly ahead of my right foot and then I use my right arm almost like the stock gun like a of a rifle so that my chin or my cheek is almost resting on my upper arm and you're a more cute doodad. But you don't have that ability to, the deck gun has that instant center, so to speak, that is unchanging. We don't have that luxury. But when we don't change our feet, we kind of have that reference of an instant center, don't we? Yeah. Thank you. And you brought up a number of good points. And it's something that needs to be talked about more. In fact, I know that there are different people who have touched on this subject. The reason I give instruction and use the videos or movies, because most people can find them quickly, and then you can kind of relate to what we're talking about here. Because when we're doing radio, it's a little different story. But it can be talked through. And we've done it. We've done it tonight on The Air here. The most important thing is to find that niche where it's comfortable. Now I'm not saying you go to sleep when you're shooting a firearm. That's not the case. But remember when you are creating overstressed muscle What's happening is you're burning oxygen and that's why you shake if you shoot. In other words, you either stop breathing or you're doing something that is forcing muscles to do something in a posture that is alien to that groove or that niche we're talking about. The actual shooter By the time he's already working up it's just like working out on a bench guys if you're pumping iron, if you're doing steel work, whatever you do, you know, I'm going to be ottled. Well the same is true when you go to the range. You actually oxygenate. And when you're a competition shooter, yeah, you know, there's a casual point, but then, you know, it's, you know, shooters prepare your arms, you know, everybody's there, they're squaring away. Now you're getting into a, again, a psychological niche and a physical niche. And both of those are perfected by the shooter himself, and each shooter is different. If you've got a muscle injury or if you've got a shot injury, if you've been wounded and you are damaged in some way, that's not a negative, that's just something you have to work with or work around. So remember that you may have to reap perfect skills. That's another thing to remind everybody about because it's happened. People pull a muscle, you've got cartilage damage. That's another reason for also changing out weapons. I would rather you hit that have something that makes big flashes and lots of noise but you know you're passing over their head or you're scattering around because the weapon is too much for your physical stature. Now you can develop the skill with it, I don't care what it is, you'll make it work. But remember as we get older we are going to have to change out and that's where the miracle of the AR-15 does come in. Like I said for the very old and the very young the AR-15 is a beautiful platform that is very forgiving. It is in fact not punishing at all. The only thing that is amazing to me is guys for all the time that the M16 has now been in place we have not corrected all of its failures. We have not come up with a real change in weapon taking advantage of its best features and negating its worst. You'll notice that I mean we have it and we give it a new name and we'll make everything is different really I can take every part on the AR-15 rifle on the m16a1 and put it on an m4 So it hasn't changed Now what that means is the critical components and problem children should have. You know, they should have been altered out by now. We should have gone to, you know, there are all kinds of things we could have done that would be permanent solutions and still allow for interchangeability as need be too. There's a whole bunch of ideas that have been looked at. It's just they've been buried, literally. Look at, I mentioned this earlier today, the TRW self-cleaning or low maintenance rifle. Okay, the LMR. take a look at that design and that's what I'm talking about the TRW American Company guys, not pretty much defunct TRW Low Maintenance Rifle LMR see if you can find it anywhere. I know you can you'll have to dig but you'll find it when you do you go oh That's what we should be doing or at least a variation on the idea gee. That's the direction we could head and it would be simpler, cheaper, easier, it could be more reliable, it would be less persnickety when it comes to junk ammo or getting dirty and that was the purpose behind it. The key word is low maintenance rifle. It means that Hugo the knuckle dragger who may have never touched a machine before might be just a potato farmer Like the AK, it would be very forgiving to operations, but it took advantage of a lot of the features that were already existing in the M16 rifle family, but it went the next step. That project was made to disappear. You all could imagine why. Think about it. We are at the top. Yes, we are. There's a couple of words I want to leave you with. Disappear and necessity. And I'd remind you that Mary had a little lamb, and we're having lamb chops for dinner. Very good. Well, I'll tell you what guys, we are at the top down. You remember for night vision, please? You're supposed to say, if you sound like Lurch and go, follow me. Over to the Lambchops. God bless the Republic. Death to the New World Order. We shall prevail. Ladies and gentlemen, the Empire is on the run. But we are on the march, folks. Day and night. Hurrah. Don, your number for night vision has taken over. We'll be back tomorrow. That number is 231-796-8458. Again, 231-796-8458. Thank you, Mark. God bless America. God bless America. You boys call it the Liberty Tree. It's a tall old tree and the straw. Yes, they are a Liberty Tree. It's a tall old and a straw.