Live 365 It's completely lawless. I'm going to let you go, buddy, and good luck. Okay, thank you much. Thanks for the call, and my time is up, so I'm going to have to sign off here in a bit. My name is Craig. The show has been forbidden knowledge. We're listening live. You're listening on the 28th of August. DragonCon this weekend. DragonCon, four-day show, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. That straddles August and September, Labor Day weekend, or is that the right weekend? One of those weekends where people don't have to work. Some people don't have to work, but I do, of course. last weekend of the summer. DragonCon, Sci-Fi show, Atlanta, Georgia. Go to forbiddenknowledge.info for more information about where that is. I don't have anything lined up for the weeks after it yet because I may have to move my things. I don't know yet. I'm going to have a storage problem, folks. Anybody have some storage space for rent? Because I'm going to have to do something here soon, maybe. 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For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch in tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free? On and behind the lines in occupied America. Hey Dad Hey. I apologize. I don't know where dad is. I was off looking for him. Oh, that's okay. We'll do... We're third of the way through the run-ups. Is that Echo gone or is it still there? Uh, I don't hear it now. Okay, good. It's here because it won't be long and then Mark will be here, but you know, we talk about CDs, you know, the thing about it... Oh, you know, the thing that's gonna replace bed trees that you can, you know, fold... You can even take a book and turn it into a paper airplane. I find that amusing. A dead tree, you arrange it in just the right way and it can fly. Oh, well, leaves fly too, don't they? It's pretty hard to plug that CD player into the tree out there in the woods. You can open up your... I've got a New Testament. It came from Desert Storm, the original, long time ago, Desert Storm. And it's desert camouflaged in it. It'll fit in your t-shirt pocket. It's that small. It wasn't supposed to be in Saudi Arabia. But we did stage a whole lot of people there, didn't we? And they did want to go in with, at least in New Testament, a whole bunch of them. And because of that, well, I got one of them. A real honest-to-gosh. Not an imitation right there in the time frame. Real. And again, it's like, well, I'm told that you can print a Bible on the head of a pin. But I'd be hard pressed to read it. So you might as well just put it in that dinky little New Testament that I can fit in my t-shirt pocket or in the same area, breast pocket of my BDUs. So the printed material, we might later, after Mark comes up, we might talk about a couple of different kind of soft bound magazines, big, big magazine almost books like Robert H. Boatsman, his book Living with a Big 50. because it doesn't have a real hard cover and it's not leather bound. This is big, you guys. It's not like you can't call it a book at any rate. I'm not certain if we've got Mark. If we do all yield and we'll just run into the regular run-up there, we'll continue along this line because I can reach over here and hear that? That's like that American rattlesnake. Hear that? I don't know if you... I'm not certain if you can. I'm pretty certain you heard that magazine drop out of the magazine well and, hey, I'm going to lock that slide back just because I can. We could talk about it just for another moment because I'm trying to hold the horse in the stall here. I don't care if it kicks a little bit now and then, but we don't want to let him out too soon just because, at any rate, we'll talk about it. We've had Robert Boatman on the air talking about his book, Living with the Big 50, in the timeframe right after it first came out. We'll have to have him up again because I do believe we've had him on the air with Mark also. We've had him on the air almost 10 years ago and then within the last seven. We'll have to, over a short stretch of time, and that's not a big line of event. Three years, that's right around a thousand days you guys. There are those that say if you're 93, well just three more years it would be really nice. As long as they don't go downhill from here, and I don't mean to touch any buttons there as of current events, but sometimes Don just makes some dots together and stumbles across other dots. Again, I'm waiting on Mark there, so... Okay, we're almost a quarter after, so we're just going to do this. You tuned to Liberty Tree Radio broadcasting to all points of the compass and to each and every one of our brothers and sisters on and behind the lines in occupied America. You might be listening on an AM station or an FM station. Either one of you, I would call the short rangers. Some of you call them rebroadcasters. If you've got one in your neighborhood, work at finding out where he is. Support him. Tell him how he's made. I'm 19 blocks over or I'm 2.5 miles away. I'm getting you pretty good right here. Maybe it's the lay of the land. Maybe he's got a big radius there. Let him know. Send him a pizza for lunch. If you can work out his timing a little bit, don't send him a pizza and nobody knocks at the door. Pizza guy don't appreciate that. The next time that guy orders a pizza. At any rate, I'm getting a little bit off the line here. Because it is a particular day and let me think. We're getting real late in August here. I'm going to say like 28th day of August just to kind of nail it down what I might be wrong about that. Don't quote me on it, but it is Weapons Wednesday. So that kind of puts right down the middle of the calendar and that only begs the, I like this effect, it's not real good for the extractor but one in the chamber and the slide jumping to battery and that full magazine filling the well and we can say it is Weapons Wednesday. The perimeter is secure and there's plenty more where that came from. And Mark would talk about equal opportunity and equal force. And well, they offer you the opportunity. They can equally find out that equal and opposite reaction. You deliver really, really small parts moving really, really fast. And there's a couple of different formulas to figure on that. And that whole thing right there could spark a debate. Until the well, we're getting kind of close to the bottom of the hour already. I could do this and say, 8, 8, 8. Oh, no, that's in the morning. How about that? 7124320900. When you get there, a nice, pleasant mechanical lady will ask you for a conference room number. That would be 95 pounds sign. Now, when you do that, I'm calling this is a specific, I almost said that big, big puddle, the ocean there. This is a specific, I'm putting out that number right now because This goes over to a long held debate. Either you can throw a spear at them or you can throw an arrow at them. That's one of the ways. No, an arrow is going to get there a little bit faster and it's going to be a little bit faster when it gets there. But that spear has got just so much weight to it. It's a little bit slower and you might have to lead them a little more. This goes over to like right now you guys. It still is a kind of a debate. I did put out the number and that's the one. But don't call me if you want to talk about the price of qi in China. But do you like them really fast? 40 calibers? Or how about that 45? If you've got a good eye and you're just in the right angle and the moisture is just right, you can see the trail that leads through the air. And if you've got a real good eye on your painting, you can see the beginning, the very impetus, what makes that trail lobbing through the air. At any rate, that's a great long debate, you guys. It goes over to, do we kill the elephant with a smaller, fast, fast bullet? Really, really fast. Or do we kill the elephant with a big old bullet? It'll get there just a little bit slower, but it'll, either one, you guys, the end result is if you kill the elephant, gravity still works. If the elephant is dead, it takes X amount of time for the elephant to fall to the ground. Interestingly enough, whoop, am I there? Yeah, we got your mark. We're good. Sorry about that Don. I was like... That's okay. No, I'm rolling along here. Just remember to make sure the right round is there for the elephant you're gonna knock down. Yeah, that's the right tool for the right job. But again, this goes over we could take this debate down to the fine things like 40 caliber or 1911. You could get that 1911 in a 40 caliber frame, you know, in a 1911 frame now. Yeah, there's no external difference. Now, there's almost no, you know, what's that 500th? There's almost no external difference in the size. So if you're going to put a double stack in it, you're going to double up and you're going to find that big wide grip in that magazine well, aren't you? So generally you have to keep that narrow grip and that easy to conceal. It's going to be a single stack. So now you've got basically the same amount of bullets as you would in your 1911. But, you know, they're smaller. They don't weigh as much, but they get there a lot faster. Some of those 40 calibers run up to almost 2,000 feet per second, you guys. Right out of a handgun. That's crazy fast out of a handgun when you're used to, God bless John Moses Browning, when you're used to his typewriter here. Well, you have to look at it like a typewriter, old dependable, press that key and it'll put down a mark on a paper for sure. Well, it just ain't as fast as some of these computer design things. Again, it goes over to you want to throw a brick at them, or even better, the illustration at the beginning. You want to hit them with the spear or you want to hit them with the arrow. Both will make a hole and if you do it, just write the spear hole through and through. He might have to carry it with him a little and makes it hard to move through the brush. I'm being real primitive about this. We're talking about the difference between weight and velocity. You want to hit him with a spear, you want to hit him with an arrow. They're both shafts moving through the air, and he's going to get shafted if he's hit. For certain, one way or another, he's going to be leaking. It goes over to the fine points. If you can hit things with that .40 cal, some people hunt with their 1911 and bring it up, and that deer goes bound, bound, and the gun goes bang. The deer bounds a little more and skids to a stop. The next time he tries to land on the ground he's got no legs under him. Again, skids to a stop. Some people hunt with that 40 cal and do the same thing. That's to be admired. Someone would hunt with a handgun. In particular, take that running at the deer shot in the right places. If you're trying to do that at 150 yards with your 1911, I'd say, man, you shoot the tail off of that deer. I'm going to be really, really mad at you. You'll see where I'm going with that one. Some people do that like they're shooting at a bunny mark. They shoot that handgun and that deer, be it at just where it hits the ground again and puts all four on the ground and goes to bound away or just at the top of the arc or just before it hits the ground again, bang and the bullet hits and the deer's got no legs under it the next time it comes to ground. It just doesn't go forward. It again slides to a stop. So now we're talking about deer. instead of if it makes the elephant drop. If you kill the elephant, the elephant's X amount of feet and gravity still works. If you drop a ball from about 6 feet high, the height of the average American, the top of his head, drop a ball. By the time it hits the ground, that's going about 13 miles an hour. In only about 6 feet. A mathematical genius figured that out for me once, Mark. So I'm pretty certain that that's a mathematical certainty. How high is the belly of an elephant? I don't know. Small enough or tall enough that a pygmy can jump underneath and spear his bladder, remember? Oh, oh wow. That was the old beast, they covered that. Remember the pygmy, how does a pygmy tribe kill an elephant? Anybody remember those videos from years ago? Actually it wasn't videos it was back years ago in the 60s where they actually showed them doing it. I filmed it, yeah. And sometimes the pygmy gets away. Sometimes it's so... Sometimes the pygmy doesn't get away. And it was very bad if the pygmy was successful but slow in getting off from underneath the element. And they showed that too. Yeah, Abunga didn't quite, he got the thrust in properly, he, you know, he belly damaged the elephant, but the elephant decided to sit and crush rather than, you know, just fleet around on his feet and jump up back on his hind feet. It didn't work that way. So just something to think about there. I'm amazed that a lot of that stuff has been either made to disappear or it just got lost in the shuffle. The National Archives has to have copies of that because they do that. So they don't want us to think about what did happen to the Pygmies. Are they carrying HK91s now? I mean, if I were in Africa, I would. I wonder what I'm saying. That's like a fly, you know, like a crush, like a fly. Well, maybe not exactly to that magnitude. But he fired all the way out. If you had a rifle, it would be like, bum bum bum, squish. At least he fought you fighting all the way to the bitter end and again if he wins he gets a whole lot of food That was what they were doing remember it was oh yeah hunting time Real quick here, the guys in the chat room are posting a couple of pictures, Kentucky, and the comment was that they're scraping the bottom of the barrel. Well, they're not scraping the bottom of the barrel, per se. Let me point something out. The pictures that are being shown are several examples of MP44s in Syria. Now, I've got to remind you that a whole bunch of MP44s were gifted to those countries back during the United Arab Republics era. East Germany, you remember those guys, the company that went out of business because it went bankrupt because Jewish sheisters ran into the ground? Okay, you know East Germany. Well, after World War II, just like with us, with the Germans, okay, the Germans got a lot of grands but a lot of other stuff with most every country out there because there were a lot of K98s, the 98 Mauser was not retired from service and you're still seeing them all through the world right now, okay? Well, at the end of World War II, the MP44 plants, one of them at least, was behind the iron curtain. So when they armed up the East Germans, here's a way to look at this, do a search for DDR 1947, 1950, 1956. Now yes, they eventually did get the SKS, they weren't allowed to have the AK initially. They had the MP44 though in its standard configuration. Now the Russians, being sloppy as they are, they did not re-stamp anything. All of the ammunition that was made in 8mm curts that was produced by the Russians was stamped 1945. All of the rifles were dated for mostly in the initial production run until the dies broke, you know the stamping dies I think failed is what happened. Initially the MP44s they produced were in massive numbers for the DDR, the again East Germans. during the Vietnam era remember the old movie you know with the Green Beret Remember they had they showed you that SF class where they were teaching everybody about where the guns came from Right right numbers. Well, this is a Czechoslovakian carbine This is you know, not an SKS remember it was one of the CZ's and they showed these different weapons and you know Where were they made and who built them right? Well at the same time when that was happening in Vietnam in the Mediterranean who was sponsoring the you know United Arab Republics Well, the Arab consortium, there we go, I'll say it that way. The Eastern Bloc provided a lot of technology. Why I've said everybody's condition is seeing Russian gear. Well, Lebanon Let's back up. These countries, including Syria, were gifted a lot of weapons that showed up in the region. Initially they were front-line firearms because the AK was an elite forces weapon back in the day, guys. Not everybody got the AK. You had SKS's and you had the other weapons that had been serviced in World War II. Or were in competition, like the Czech rifles. In this case, the MP44 showed up in force. Eventually, when the PLO back in the 70s was into its first cycle of building up in Lebanon, well, I say third cycle, but first cycle in force. Remember when the Israelis invaded and went all the way to Beirut? Well, the Israelis captured many many hundreds probably a couple hundred thousand or maybe a hundred thousand these mp44s Everything showed up on the market parts kits and everything everything else in the u.s. But the Israelis didn't dump those guns and The fact that you're showing those mp44s there tells me that the Israelis which they always do this they'll take the older and arms that are, remember what I said, orphan cartridges. The 8mm Kurtz round isn't found anywhere else other than with whoever has a warehouse full of ammo. Nobody else is carrying 8mm Kurtz. Now they do make it in Eastern Europe. Why? Because the Eastern European countries like East Germany and others, you know, PV Partizan makes boxer primed reloadable brass case brand new, brand new load 8mm Kurtz assault. They make the 8mm MP44 round. The three pictures are showing down. One is a very good close-up. I would say that that's a mid-war production rifle. The next picture that's up there on the that's posted, I can't really tell, looks like a similar class category of arm, probably from the same lot. The third one has been retouched or painted, it looks like. Of course I can't tell because color varies with these digital cameras. In those cases the weapons were either A in Syrian inventory and were in probably what's called tactical reserve or strategic reserve or they were weapons that again, the one flag I see here, I know the Israelis captured massive quantities of these and didn't get rid of them. They are then gifted to a third party so you give them enough to fight but not enough to project their strength for very long. Just enough to get in trouble. Yeah, you see how that works? Good rifle, good round. heavy rifle but it works. Again, it killed a lot of Russians. Remember one on the Russian front? When the MP44s and 45s showed up, everybody loved them, especially for rear guard operations. Two men could hold back a Russian company while the unit extracted itself from contact, which is typically when the MP44s first came in. That's how they used them. Certainly they could use them as quote-unquote assault rifles, but what they were more interested in was the idea they had a volume fire weapon they could integrate into the squad that was very reliable with a 30 round magazine capacity with a heavier bullet hitting harder than a submachine gun. So it fit that niche that again like in one carbine though a little on the light side for the rut for the round still was enough to kill people And later on as we know the m16 mp44 is basically the mother of all production aka our production assault rifles real assault rifles Has select fire it remember that rifle that's shown in that picture the mp44 has a buffer system or a buffer spring system similar to what was adopted for the M16. The difference is we went with a buffer, we actually have a buffer system that is separate and independent. With the MP44, the bolt carrier itself is the buffer. is the actual device that rides down into the spring compresses into the stock blah blah blah blah blah. They work, they're deadly, but it's interesting how many different images so obviously as I've said a lot of weapons have been resurrected or are being pressed into service. Now how do you use these? Well a lot of these weapons would be first centralized so their munitions are all you know equally distributed where they need to be and, you know, uniformly. Then on top of that, remember, you've got security. You have areas that are less active. You have second, third, and fourth line defense groups that are going to be equipped with what you have available. That way your primary or best combat equipment moves forward to engage the enemy at the primary points of contact. That's why that's not a problem. These weapons are just as deadly as they've always been. I don't want to get shot by an MP44. You're dead dead dead just like you would be with an AK, an AR, or an M1 Garand. Okay? And as I pointed out in the two-hour block, there's several videos showing units being receiving equipment. And it's a hodgepodge, but it's a big pile of hodgepodge. There's a big pile of this and there's a big box of that. So there's enough that if you're smart and you keep them together and you can continue to provide ammunition for them, they're just as lethal as everything else out there on the battlefield. The only thing is trying to get everybody to the discipline of keeping a certain family of weapons together. That way you don't have to try and send ammunition to one part of the county for one system and then a part of it to another. Instead, if you kind of get everybody to agree to consolidate, you create heavy rifle sections with light weapon support. You create assault sections or light rifle weapons, you know, units that have basically the same arm or at least the same caliber. That's how we can progressively pair that out. Now we'd still like to have a little integration of different rounds because if the supply chain fails during an advance or an operation into another county in, say, Michigan, Wisconsin, New York, Colorado, wherever, we have the ability to consume or utilize what might be provided by the locals. So, having reserve weapons in other calibers is really a good idea, guys. You know what I mean? Now, the 8mm Kurz is an orphan round, like the 7.62x25. Remember I said this five years ago. Buy it while it's cheap, because it's dirt cheap and there's lots of it. But remember, it's 7.62x25. Most everybody has gone to a 9mm or as Don you pointed out a 40 caliber round. Something in that or a 45 round again. So it's a good round, there's lots of it. It was cheap at the time. It's becoming more expensive. I hope you didn't blaze all that away because I told you not to do that, didn't I? You're right. And I'm glad you brought me back to that 40 caliber round because I wanted to finish that thought line with you guys. Don't shoot the elephant with your 45 or your 40 caliber. Yeah, he's gonna be re-angry on that one. You're right. All you're gonna do is make him mad. Give him a headache tomorrow. And he's probably gonna want to get even. And that means you'll give him your magazine and you might put one of his eyes out, but you probably can't outrun him. I just thought I'd mention that, Mark. Exactly. One of the other things here too, again, remember, there's a lot of kits out there, but there is a lot of There's a lot of variations in what you can actually utilize or you can open up or close up depending on the amount of meat available. Example, we're looking at Sten kits. Certain rounds can be adapted to the Sten design, but remember you're restricted by your magazine. So because it started out at 9mm Parabellum, there's not a whole lot of places you can go with that. On the other hand, there are larger weapons or different weapons that you take a larger, longer, have a longer internal magazine capacity in terms of the length of the case and they can be adapted or other magazines can be adapted to work in that weapon. Let me give an example. We have the AR-15 in 9mm. What did they use? Uzi Magazines. Create an adapter that fits inside the magazine well and standard Uzi Mags are used in the Colt, Carbine and 9mm. So there's an example of an improvised it was totally improvised when it first came out guys cold didn't develop that idea Somebody independently built it came up with it made it work, and then everybody said maybe we could sell some of those Yep, and since the upper receiver can be pinned off easily in other words disconnected I could go from a 9 millimeter with that insert for the magazine in an AR and Then as needed dump that put it back in the box go back to 2 2 3 or as we've pointed out now we have 3 you know 300 blackout you've got all these different Grendel rounds and let's not forget they even make an adapter for 5 4 5 by 39 an upper receiver and they make mag specifically for the round So, think about the diversity, the capability to change out, to never be out of ammunition. That is one of the things that I do like, and we've always talked about with the Air 15, that makes it a plus. If I had to buy one rifle and I said well you've got to be able to use as many rounds as you can it is obvious the AR-15 is the solution. Buy the very fact that you can buy an AR-15 lower or build one from AriesArmor.com. Buy one of those 80% plastic lowers. Then you can buy a .223 545x39 762x39 300 blackout if you want to and or one of the Grendel's well you've got how many different calibers and you all you can even use the existing mags you don't necessarily have to keep buying different mags you just have to understand that if you go with a thicker case you're not going to fit as many rounds into a standard mag also you're restricted by pitch remember there's a that's one of the things when they came up with 30 round mags of the AR they had to work at it It's a shouldered case. The 20 rounders settle the issue with regard to being able to use the same mag for the different rounds we listed. The only thing is you're not going to carry 20 rounds. You'll probably carry 11 to 13, up to maybe 16 depending on the round that you're actually trying to load up in the magazine because each one has the different dimensions. And we still have to take and consider the potential to be able to load effectively. But there's a solution multiple calibers you end up fighting somebody and you have to change out Congratulations, you got Russians. You're killing with five four five or Chinese I would point out the Chinese do have another a K round out there that really isn't getting publicity yet Once we start killing them. We'll know we need a few of those too Oh that leads me in another direction, and I'm glad you brought that up because it bang another light bulb went off We've talked about that light Chinese automatic .50 cal. It'll eat our bullet. If they're carrying a number of them, well, we can feed them to our .50 cal. They shoot the common .50 cal bullet. It's the lightest automatic .50 cal weapon in the world right now, you guys. There'll be collector items after the war here on this continent. I just thought I'd mention that. Don't let any of those that come in front of you, even if it's damaged, and Mark you point this out many, many times, they tend to fail because they're so light. And when the Chinaman have a gun in their hand that isn't working for them, they probably want to leave it behind so they can run just a little bit faster, just run a little bit faster so we don't shoot them, or so they just get shot a little bit farther down range. In the posterior, in the derriere, in the rear end. But at any rate. The guns are rumored to fail rather quickly in certain places because, well again, did I mention it's the lightest 50 caliber automatic rifle in the world? I'd really like to have one of those one day. So again, keep your eye out for them. The QZ98 or ZQ98 or something, 99 something like, real cool gun, really light. Any, most any Chinaman could almost run with it. Thanks for pointing this in that direction Mark. I've been wanting to bring that to the Weapons Wednesday for the last couple of weeks and just haven't written that one down. And let's not forget we're going to tie this in too with the AR-15 lower platform. If you're building it, the next thing to consider if you've built a cheap AR is that that's also the foundation for your trigger group for a .50 caliber tag on upper. and Watson's weapons has one that's probably the best price in the country right now. I'm pretty sure he's the one that has the best price and it's an AR platform type tag on but he also has a freestanding rifle. Oh, which is again, oh I'll use that word, the cheapest 50 caliber bolt action gun on America on the continent. And his number is not right at hand, Mark. Watson's Weapons, www.watsonswepons.com, that's S at the end of that, watsonswepons.com will get you there. And I could step away if we're gonna run a break, I could step away for a minute and come back with that number. In fact, I've got that book here, Living with the Big 50, and I'll bet you that number's in here too. And we're gonna go to a short break here, cause we're ready to go. Iodine protection packs from hempusa.org are now in stock for immediate delivery worldwide. Our iodine protection packs include micro plant powder, green life kelp, red palm oil and our clear roll-on iodine that will feed the body the iodine it needs. All iodine protection packs are in stock, save you money and ship for free in all 50 states. Visit hempusa.org or call 908-691-2608 today. useless without my right I'm useless I must fire my rifle true I must shoot straighter than my enemy who is trying to kill me I must shoot him before he shoots me I will before God I swear this free my rifle and myself are defenders of my country we are the masters of our enemy What fun ye hear the red coats? What mind you madness builds In our valleys there is danger And there's danger in our hills For here ye not just singin' of the view Though wild and free But soon you'll know the ringin' of the rifle From the tree Oh, the rifle Oh, the rifle In our hands will prove no frightful You may ride a good late speed, you may know a stern a master You forward march with speed, but you'll learn the back of such a faster When you meet our mountain boys and their leader jolly start Glad you make what little noise and always hit the mark Hold the rifle, hold the rifle In our hands we'll prove Noah's rifle Maggie no graves at home, back across the briney water. And Giddy he must come, like bullets to the slaughter. But if we the job must do, then the sooner it is begun. If Lyndon's figure holds a buck through, the quicker it will be done. Hold the rifle, hold the rifle. In our hands, we'll prove no to rifle. Hold the rifle, hold the rifle. In our hands, we'll prove no to rifle. And we are back to mark the intel report and everybody out there again the rifleman Battlefield superiority Battlefield supremacy the main battle rifle well I understand that and I will always explain to you the need for it However, there are support weapon systems that are part of the program and we are a combined arms militia We use many different arms many different from many different countries improvising adapting and overcoming perfecting the technology and perfecting long range rifle marksmanship. The idea is to hit them long before they can think about hitting you. You keep decimating, taking a percentage, taking a percentage, knocking them down, taking a percentage. The idea behind this is it continues to hurt and hurt and hurt and hurt and hurt to the point where Yeah, maybe you don't want to come over here and get hurt no more because we won't send any back And I'm not gonna leave one alive to tell everybody else. Oh hell no I want everybody to remember that you kill them all we fight them you kill them all That's the first and most important your long-range rifleman. It's like Well again like Don said files fails we can hit them in the buttocks except with a 50-cal or 30 out 6 or 300 mag it means blowing chunks out of them they ain't going any farther and they're not gonna survive a hit. That's right. That's like complete stop hit. That's what we need to see happen people. Remember well you know what was so... oh leave the last one and let it live. Nah. Get them all. That means the top of their head if they're about 60 feet tall. That's right. We'll hit the ground at about 13 miles an hour. That's right. Pop. Oh, he didn't get back up, did he? Yeah, you're right, he did not, and he will not. Now, Don, I think you got the number available? Oh, yes, I do. Very good, thank you. If you want to talk to Larry Watson over there at Watson's Weapons directly, he might even pick up the phone. When I mean directly, you can probably talk directly to Larry Watson at 952-721010. I should remember this number. It's dirt simple. It's 952-7210. 472-1010. That's Watson's weapons. And hey, business hours over there in the Wisconsin area, middle of the nation. And you might even pick up the phone if you dial 952-472-1010. And again, the cheapest real boat gun, .50 caliber on the continent, and the cheapest .50 caliber upper that will pin on to your AR lower. So there you go, give Larry a call. Tell him you heard it. And I, you know, we tell you things and sometimes we tell you stuff like this on purpose, but tell him you heard it on the intelligence report. Tell him Mark told you right there from the intelligence report, okay? Cool. And another thing here, again, remember 50-Kalama, if you're looking at getting into the 50s, if you've already made the decision to do it, start buying ammo. This is either that you're gonna have to be looking out for that Chinaman with that broken 50 caliber machine gun or get him before it breaks Why you keep picking on me everyone tight you my butt everyone try take my am I? That's right shooting low shooting low shooting low Okay, there you go. You got him now. You can strip the goodies off him and you won't have to worry about it We're we're dining Chinese resupply tonight Think about that one. Yeah, and the dogs are too for the small parts. We got to add your own water to their dehydrated meals. You can't add that Chinese water. Yeah, exactly. Well, again guys, one of the things here to consider with the ARs, as I've said, try to get a longer barrel. A 20 inch barrel would be your best choice. I want to reinforce this. We've had to admit that right now with the supply and support system, other than really expensive $1,200 uppers and $1,300 uppers with 20 inch barrels, maybe sometimes a 22 inch barrel, You're still talking way beyond the price range for most people out there trying to build up a basic gun. I'm building a tack driver? Yeah, you can spend thousands of dollars easily. And there are AR-15s that will dot the I over and over and over and over again. But you can see the money that it takes to bring it in, bring it up to that particular level for master's competition. We're looking at field grade. We need a particular number of weapons. I look at this as the air- I look at the Air-15 like I do the M1 carbine. Sorry. I know people are immediately insult- Oh, the M1 carbine! Well, tell you what, a lot of people died at the hands of the M1 carbine. And originally it wasn't supposed to go to everybody. If you do understand the history of the carbine, it was going to replace the .45. That was its purpose. Take a look at the parameters for building the carbine. what ended up happening? Well, they could make a lot of them and so take a look at the production numbers for World War II. Oh, oh, let me not, not, not to forget the forgotten war, you know, the Korean War. How many more were made then? Oh, oh, oh, but wait a minute. We didn't stop there. We used the carbine in Vietnam. In fact, special forces units initially used the M2 and the M3 carbine extensively in the early stages. Most of the first SF groups the first Special Forces, the first attachments on the ground. If you have original imagery, not BS Hollywood movie stuff, the M1 carbine was the dominant, slash forgive me, in the full auto version, the M2 and M3, were carried by most of the troops. I've got people I served with for a long time, especially SF personnel that were there, and the carbine and the garand, the Nung used the garand religiously. They wouldn't take anything else. They wanted the garand. One of the reasons why you know about this, and it can be documented, how we'll tie this together in just a moment, is logistics. You talk about, well, if it's not there, it can't be used. Or, in this instance, if it's not in wide production yet, it can't be used. This only goes to show how long we had people in Vietnam. before even the M16 was a prevalent gun in our own forces. In fact, the Captain, young Captain, at the time young Captain, now of course my senior and actually one has passed away. When they were in Vietnam in the early early days, second detachment on the ground in Vietnam, they came around with a 20 round crate of, or ground, they came around with a crate off the back of a three quarter ton M16s and said, you know, actually it was the M16E1. They said, hey you want to try one of these? They kind of looked at it and said, nah I think we'll stick with the carbines. And again one of the reasons it was a neat looking little weapon but where would you get ammo? I mean if you were out in the field the one thing is remember there were a lot of carbines out there, a lot of grands out there. You might find somebody else at least carrying what you got but if you started carrying an XM type rifle and you got stuck who's going to deliver more ammo? You're right. You see? So what they did is they relegated these weapons to defense garrison use because they knew that, well, the spare ammo is right behind me. See how that works, guys? In other words, I know there's two plats of ammo, pallets of ammo sitting back in the depot because there's two pallets of ammo that came with the 20 rifles. So what they did is they said, we'll just slide those over that way. And in fact, where they put them, guys, is right next to the 155 howitzers they had set up in a star cluster around the final defense line. In other words, if you got a burn ammunition, throw all the stuff up that you got no matter what is, because when you run out of one, you'll start going to the next. And the 155s at that base were not for fire mission support. What they did is they scrounged up a battery, then turned the tubes down and had them set up for final defense and for defense of the perimeter. Yeah, we're talking 155. You wouldn't want to be standing in front of that boar when they touch one of those off. Bambi and Thumper. The thing is that again, it was available, but it was not desirable. It didn't fit the need at that time and it couldn't serve the purpose out of the toolbox. It was a neat tool, but it didn't have the logistic train, the support to allow it to be projected effectively in a combat situation. Now a very short time later even though again it was available in Vietnam most everybody steered clear in the m16 in any configuration with special special warfare units however When the Dominican Republic uprising took place the airborne units that were sent into the Dominican Republic all carried the m16 That's what they were issued when they came in so they had no they didn't have a choice Right, the whole unit was organized and the logistic support and the armory support was there too. Now, knowing what we know about the... Here's one thing to think about. Knowing how many people died in the middle of Vietnam even though they had the logistic support, consider the situation with these men testing an untested rifle, putting an untested rifle into the field and having something go wrong on a massive scale. Let's say you issue 20 weapons out and those 20 weapons are together. Well, if that's all you're carrying because you committed to a certain weapon system and you find out that, well, they defecate where they eat, they're using the wrong powder and they aren't properly outfitted with all the components. They haven't been tweaked out the rest of the way in the field. They think you're going to do it. Well, that's not the place to do that in a special warfare unit. You need proven... When people are shootin' at you, you mean? And also in a situation with special warfare units where you're deep behind enemy lines, you're in an aggressor territory, the weapon you have better work or it better be reliable and you have to... literally know it as part of your person and the weapon just simply didn't fit at that moment in time. Later on it was flooded into the market by McNamara. They had no choice. That's just simply how it was. And originally the M16 was sent in as a theater rifle. Remember that many men were carrying the M16 in the middle of Vietnam but at that point in time the M14 was the official main battle rifle of the US Army. The other thing you have to identify and look for, and you talk about logistics, Mark, and logistics and logistics. And who was the host nation and how big were they? And it was a real polite thing to hand them a rifle that they could run with for a while. Oh yeah. It was a logical weapon for that size person. Well the carbine was too. That figures over to your theater application. Yeah, again you're shooting people that weigh 90 pounds soaking wet, typically not with body armor. So you're hoping that maybe it will perform well enough. Well, Carbeam did quite well in both categories, both as a carried weapon by the Vietnamese population and the Cambodians, and as a people stopper in that category for the same reason. So, you know, trading out a 110 grain bullet doing 2000, what, 2006, right around there, for an M16 round that was 55 grains doing about 2007, you know, 100 feet per second plus or minus depending on which load in the XM models they had, 9 or 10 different loads they tested during Vietnam in the early, early stages to get to the 55 grain standard projectile we all know and not necessarily love. Interestingly enough, again, later on as they switched to the M16, a mild recoil for a small person, light rifles, seven pounds, it fit the niche. Again, it's another reason that submachine guns were very popular in Vietnam. You'll notice, for you to be just a second George, in Vietnam if you pay attention to real photography, not movies, In real photography you'll notice a lot of submachine guns in the hands of both Arvin and in the hands of the North Vietnamese. They were provided with the Peppish in the 43, the 41 and 43 model. They also made a version of the Peppiish in North Vietnam that was a simplified version with less material. I don't know how you did it, but they figured out how to use less material by cutting down the barrel shroud and doing a bunch of other stuff. But both sides, that light pistol cartridge, won't say light standard pistol cartridge, was comfortable. The weapon wasn't too heavy. The Peppiish, you know, being fairly lightweight. The matte machine guns made by the French and the Grease Gun were actually quite comfortable for them to fire with a lot of stopping power. So Another consideration, tiny weapon, tiny people. Made sense. Go ahead George, what do you got? You know, about the M16. I know I was out in Fort Irwin, Mark, with all that desert sand, the M16 wasn't a very good rifle. No, it didn't. Go ahead. Go ahead. And I don't think it was very reliable when desert dust won. Well, the biggest problem is, again, the way it was... First of all, to get the thing to work right, we started using a lot of lubricants. In a wet, damp, washing environment, that's not as much of a problem, even though dirt has always been a sensitivity issue with the Air 15, because it's a closed weapon system. The FN FAL, even the Garand are basically scrapers. What they do is they're effective at cleaning out the system and dumping material out through the magazine well. The FN FAL, the FN 49 are works in a drawer weapons. The Hakim rifle is a work in a drawer weapon using planers instead of lathes and using, you know, on boring machines. The tray weapons have a tendency to self scrape and self clean. And that's a big plus plus plus. In addition to that, there's a basic rule, gravity sucks. So you leave access points where, again, around the trigger guard and the magazine well and other places, the gunk will leave the weapon. It will be pushed out of the firearm progressively or there's allowance made with the internal design for build up. And that includes recesses, bore points, because they had to use a mill or a bore at a particular point. Well, they let it over bore and they actually allow for excessive space where it can be allowed so that if crud builds up, it does not interfere with the travel or with the head spacing of the firearm. And that's where the M16 loses in that respect, in that you have to clean it. I cannot emphasize enough, and I'll repeat this, and don't let any booby tell you otherwise. I hear anybody go, you don't have to clean that that much. Oh, the hell with you. My life depends on this rifle. I will tell you this beyond a shadow of doubt. You ask any true veteran, and they'll tell you the first thing you took care of was your weapon, because it takes care of you. You didn't have time scratch your arse you know pick your nose and rotate thumbs between the fundamental orifice in your mouth If you were stopped the first thing you do is you check your weapon I don't care if it's a grand the m14 the a maybe the a cake as if you know again potato farmers weren't paying attention the rice farmers didn't know any better But the average infantryman knows that that rifle keeps you alive Now the only problem the m16 it takes more maintenance to keep you alive. That's the only thing always remember that I got another question. Today I was listening to Picture Talk Radio and even Local Conservatalk Radio and it just sounds like something out of controlled opposition because he all said, before we have a nuclear war we need to have a military coup possibly. It's all floating around, Mark. Well, it's talk... Yeah, but you see what's happening is, you know, there's people that'll drag you down and drown you. Remember we talked about that? What you gotta do if you're a lifeguard? And what all these people thought they were fellow travelers, they thought they were traveling with somebody who was like maybe a snake, but at least a smart enough snake to figure out they don't want to burn the house down? And all of a sudden it's a snake that eats other snakes. It's a cannibal snake. It's an insane, no no, that would give it some kind of justification. It's an insane, queer, cannibal snake that has a bad case of both schizophrenia and neuroses. And that's where the problem is. We're dealing with the worst of all possible combinations. And what did I say before about what happened in the communist revolution? There were fellow travelers in 1917 who were stupid enough to think they could make a deal with the devil. And those are the first ones that died. Think about the 20,000 Russian officers at Leningrad in one day. Well, you're all retirees, and you just come in and turn in your guns and we'll let bygones be bygones. And they all came in because they thought they could make a deal because they were all power brokers. And they made their deal and the communists dragged them out into the basement and... The guns were a-blazin'. And at the end of the day, all those retired military personnel were dead because the communists killed them. And that's where we are right now. This is the same. That's why these people are all like, you're dealing with an insane drowning person. It's not that the person fell in the water by accident. This nutcase already knows it can't swim, has no intentions of making anything right, and is hoping that you'll jump in so he can drag you down. That's what we're dealing with and it's a it's a fact they they plan on in fact dragging you down Because they figure they might still survive to be on top of the mountainous skulls that are left or maybe at least at the bottom of the pool But on top of your corpse Not that that'll do them any good Yeah, you're dealing with insanity dealing with people need to be put away and or put down and put down and be preferred So expect people to more and more decide that maybe we need to get rid of this problem However, I don't trust the ones that are, you know, talking about it because you know what? Weren't they the ones that were when Bush was in charge? Weren't they doing the same thing? Oi, I'm telling ya. Yeah, oi. The party on the left is just the other party on the left. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Talk about a shotgun in that phone. Yeah, we won't be fooled again either. Boom boom. Shotgun saves us all. Get them both. Line them up. That way you get them both, kids. Don, we're at the top here. Your number for night vision, please. That number is 2317968458. Very good. Thank you, George, guys. Everybody for calling in. God bless the Republic. Death to the New World Order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. but we are on the march both day and night. Very good. Bass in the chatroom I think has got the K50. Actually it was their version of the Peppish. It looks kind of like an M1 carbine if it's the last model because they completely eliminated the barrel shroud guys. Don your number for night vision and close us please. It's 231-796-8458. Thank you. God bless you. God bless you America.