August 23, 2013
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59m
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2013
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Mark Koernke and Spike discussed various preparedness and surveillance products available on Deal Extreme and other online retailers, including quadcopters, RC helicopters, compasses, GPS trackers, and survival gear. They analyzed news stories about U.S. cluster bomb sales to Saudi Arabia, the Fukushima nuclear disaster, and a South Carolina city's controversial homeless criminalization ordinance. The hosts also examined a Las Vegas police report alleging a sovereign citizen plot to kidnap and kill officers, expressing skepticism about the undercover operation's legitimacy and comparing it to the Hutaree case.
- deal extreme
- quadcopters
- gps tracker
- preparedness
- sovereign citizens
- las vegas police
- cluster bombs
- fukushima
- homelessness
- south carolina
- undercover operations
- hutaree
- surveillance
- rc helicopters
- storable food
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And good evening ladies and gentlemen you're listening to the intelligence report live I'm Edward corny, and I think we got spike the the Ma Bell Network and the Grandma Consortium bringing together the Golden Spike project. You're also hearing us on a myriad of other alternative networks that we don't know about and we welcome you all as we enter into the second hour of the Intelligence Report here on Liberty Tree Radio. If, let's see, uh, don't really have a whole lot of subjects ready to talk about Spike because I've been engineering the board the whole time we've been going so uh, Anything that you got that you want to bring to the table? What I was uh when Don was talking about the remote control deals I went over to deal extreme because I've seen them over there quite a bit and Right now I'm looking at exactly what Don was talking about probably not the exact same thing. It's a lot smaller a Hubsan x4 v2 H107L Mini 2.4 GHz RC 4-channel 6-axis 3D Quadcopter LED RTF Black This thing looks pretty neat. How much are they asking for it? $48.60 And you got a wait up on the floor to get here. Does it say anything how long it How much weight it will hold or they just not giving that information out. This particular one is about as big as the controller is. They've got a picture of it laying next to the controller and it looks like a video game controller for like a PlayStation or something like that. Thing is not much. You could put it on top of the controller. It's tiny. This one is. So I would say it would probably fit in the palm of your hand. Yeah, I think the ones that Tom was talking about were a little bigger than that. Yeah. There's another one right down the page that's a different style and I think it's quite a bit bigger. Let's see if I can scroll down here and find that one real quick. It looked like it was quite a bit bigger. It's actually got a bigger frame on it. and they don't have it sitting next to the controller but it actually looks like it's about the size of a frisbee or a little bit bigger yeah, 78.7.4 inches by 7.36 inches so yeah, that one's pretty small too so yeah, both of them are 44, this one's 44 dollars so it's a little cheaper but something that if you want to check that kind of stuff out that's something you can go look at, Deal Extreme because they have a ton of these things The other one has the gyro controls in it and this one here doesn't but you look around over here and you see a ton of these things and as I was scrolling around I saw this thing. I went, what the hell is that? It has wheels on it and it also has two rotors on top and it's called a four channel Mars warship IR helicopter and the back end of it crabs like a Well even the front end crab, so it's like a Mars lunar rover with a helicopter on top That was pretty neat $41 for that. I saw that one. What the hell is that? It looks like a Jeep with a helicopter on top The things they come up with I'm telling you For us to spend our money on Well first up they want to spend our money on yeah But they've got a ton of them over here. Anywhere from 20 bucks all the way up. I'm looking at two different models of helicopters. I remember the more expensive they get, the bigger they are, the bigger they are, the bigger the payload they can usually handle unless they're just adding junk on to what they already know it'll hold. Yep. And here at Neil Extreme, they've got all the replacement parts for any kind of remote control. You would want you could even start from nothing and Build an entire RC car from this website because they have every piece you need Interesting so that's that's a very neat website. They're a little bit more expensive than some of the other Websites and even they have a pistol here. I don't know if this is a real pistol or not It sure as hell looks like wanted $105 KWC Python 357 ABS version 4 inch silver revolver. This is a for real gun. Shipman accepts England, Denmark, Israel, Argentina, Ireland, Netherlands. Doesn't say anything about California? Nope. That's interesting. Usually if it's a real firearm you'll almost always see a restriction to California there. Yep. Says free shipping to United States is it a is it a real firm or is it a replica? It's a real firearm I'll send you here I'll copy and paste the link for you in the in the Skype chat and You can go look at it for yourself and see if you think that's real Looks real to me just because it looks real doesn't mean that it is there are some pretty good historic replica sites Where it's it's made from a real firearm, but they've got one or two things missing that otherwise you know It makes it not a bang bang Let's see here Marvelous loading mechanism allow each shell chamber to load four plastic bullets totaling 24 bullets consecutively loading capacity Loading plastic bullets. Yeah, so maybe that's not a real realistic bullet type housing chamber yeah it's not a real firearm yeah it's a pellet gun stores four pellets each hop up system fixed oh so that is a pellet gun then probably co2 cartridge revolver let's see here Oh, it's a revolver? Yeah, it's a 24 round capacity magazine. The image, the site that you sent me to, it took me right to the quadcopters. It didn't take me to the... There's two links there. The bottom one is the... There's the helicopter on top and then the bottom one is the KWC Python. Right there in the link. Oh yeah, I used to... That's like the airsoft rifle... Well, airsoft pistol that I used to have that was made by Daisy. The cartridges are spring-loaded. Yeah They look real, but they're not They sure do look real and this other there's another one here. It's a Tokyo Marai Hi Kappa 5.1 government model gas blowback system 205 bucks for this one that one looks pretty cool there. It looks like a 45 I'll send you a link to that one too. I'm looking at they got a bunch of little airsoft pistols This is a good site to look around for stuff like that. I haven't seen any of this stuff over at the DH gate But then I again I haven't been looking either. I've been looking at the electric cigarettes over there The gas-powered Derringer looks interesting. I'm wondering where you fill the gas in? Yeah, nifty little website uses a green top gas. Yeah, it's like a pellet gun Fire six millimeter Pellets or BBs. Yeah, I don't think they have any real firearms there. Dot. Not done. I Don't think that's real firearms any of these just looks like airsoft. Yeah, that's after I looked for a while there I'm like, yeah, I started reading. Yeah, this is real but they do have real Mounting brackets and stuff like that over here gun sights I would be cautioned with some of that just because they have it looks like real doesn't necessarily mean that it is. It could be more airsoft stuff. I mean considering that the weaponry that they seem to have on hand appears to be you know airsoft and it seems like their majority of what they're pushing for are toys. Yep this one here though it says it's a three inch heightened aluminum alloy gun rail mount for m4 a1 m16. And there's uh, well if it's aluminum Yeah, there's no good. I mean We were right now the one-to-one scales for the most part are interchangeable, so it probably would work $9.10 and it's Weaver mouth. Excuse me for a minute spike. I got bad cough something crap throat. I'll be right back No problem. They got tactical flashlights if you're looking for one of those 25 bucks for a singfire Kree XPE 200 Lumen 2 mode tactical pistol flashlight in black. 25 bucks. That's quite expensive. And looking at, found another quadcopter here just by looking around. And ran into this one. And it looks a little bit bigger. It's a $52 quadcopter. And it's got the same stuff, but it's different shape, different model. Looks a little bit different, but all those things you can use in your own way for a drone. Even these helicopters, if you go to this same site and get you one of those little cameras, well, you know, you could do all kinds of stuff with it. And here even these don't have a, the ones that I've been looking at except for the one I just looked at, don't really have any undercarriage. So you could even get the undercarriage for $2.60 and figure out a way to mount that on the bottom of that sucker. Or they've got wheels and stuff around here. You could figure out a way to mount wheels on it if you wanted to. So that, you know, you can use those things to your advantage and against the bad guys. That way you know where they're at. And they did have a saw, a survival saw on here, but I lost the damn thing. It had the metal hand rings on each end and then it was a rope saw. There is a survival steel scroll saw. $3.20 at Deal Extreme. That's a good buy. I would like to have one of those. Wilderness Survival Steel Wire Scroll Saw 70mm Full Length. applicable for outdoor camping activities great for tight spot made of hard steel quality for long lasting fast cutting of pbc plumbing wood and etcetera full length seventy millimeters solid about fifty five centimeters so you got uh... little bit of handle links there and that uh... looks pretty uh... chewy on their you choose something up with it Imagine you could do some damage with that if you used it as a weapon. Yeah, you can either saw it or you can use it as a weapon. Yeah. Just a few of the things I was looking at over there while Don was talking about RCs and getting into those. Those are pretty neat little deals there. So if you go over to Deal Extreme, hit the hobbies and crap, hobbies and toys button. in the sidebar there in the menu, it'll say categories, hit the hobbies and toys and you can go look through there and you'll find a myriad of different things, servos, all kinds of stuff that you can use on different projects. I've been seeing a lot of that stuff at DH Gate too, they have a lot of different project stuff over there that you can use for whatever you need to use if you need like we've talked about making dummies up to make it look like you know there's somebody actually standing there if you wanted to even go the next you know step and make it look even like it's actually a live person standing there and not just could be might be but hey it's moving too you can get some servos and some stuff over here and make it wave its arm or whatever With a radio control little hand deal Wouldn't that be funny? You could even put a megaphone under its hat and make it talk Then they would really think somebody was there wouldn't they that would give them high confidence that they had a target It's even talking to us. I can't see it. It's waving to look. Bop bop bop bop bop bop bop Bop bop bop Bop bop bop Bop bop bop Bop bop bop bop Bop bop bop bop bop bop Bop bop bop bop bop bop bop Bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop bop b US sending Saudi Arabia thousands of cluster bombs despite international ban. Even as they condemn the Syrian regime's use of cluster munitions, the US is selling Saudi Arabia a $640 million worth of American-made cluster bombs. Cluster munitions have been banned in 83 countries on account of their indiscriminate nature of their record. killing and they're ready for killing children. Well yeah, if they're anywhere around the cluster bomb when it goes off they're gonna get killed. They don't have an age limit on them. Right underneath that you have radioactive groundwater at Fukushima near Pacific. Oh come on, give me a break. It's already been going into the Pacific. I'm pretty sure it has been and we'd have to be foolish to think that it wasn't. That's a pretty big disaster and there was a flood not to mention, you know that you know went racing across the Yeah, so washed that stuff right back out with it in it some of it, but now it's still burling over and Eating a hole through Japan So will it be the the accident that actually sinks the island like the congressman said it's gonna flip over and We gotta have everybody go to the other side of the island so it don't flip over. Yeah, I don't think that's gonna happen. Who knows what can actually happen because we've really not done a whole lot of testing they might have but didn't tell us about it. So we wouldn't know, you know, for sure exactly what's gonna happen there since that, you know, is something that's never happened. It's the worst nuclear disaster ever. I bet those little animals out there in the desert where we blew up all those nuclear bombs back in the 30s and 40s I bet they didn't think it, you know, I think of it like that They probably thought theirs was the worst probably was a lot worse than what they're going through Lovely town in South Carolina votes to make homelessness a crime Not sure how you can do that when people are being kicked out of their house, but let's see what it says here the source is the contributor And what critics say is the most comprehensive anti-homeless measure ever passed. It's like they're trying to ban homelessness. Sounds like their gun legislation speak. The most comprehensive anti-gun legislation, anti-homeless legislation, yeah, see? Fits right in there, doesn't it? Ever past, Columbia, South Carolina's City Council has unanimously approved an Emergency Homeless Response Plan under which patrolling police will remove unsightly homeless people from downtown under the aegis of the city's quality of life laws. Complete quality of life laws. when we had the really big number law earlier today but now we've got the quality of life law. Oh my god. Complete with a hotline so business owners can report the presence of any aforementioned unsightly, etc, etc. And make them, take them to a shelter on the outskirts of town where more patrolling police will ensure they don't up and wander back downtown. If they refuse to be taken, they will be arrested and taken to a jail. If they try to leave the shelter, they will be returned to Suedo Jail to justify this grotesque criminalizing of homelessness. Business leaders explained in lengthy impact statements that the presence of homeless people in the city center made it virtually impossible to create a sustainable business model. Which you'd think would be enough to throw all those people into jail or at least pseudo jail They should just do it in our bird did by go out and buy the homeless all new clothes and just you know Let them be wall flowers. Yeah a Lot of these people can't help it now back in the 90s and the 80s Here in Fort Wayne. I'm going I'm speaking of my experience. So wait a minute. They're saying they've created a debtors prison and Pretty much is basically sounds like what it is to me or a homeless prison The people there's a lot of people here in Fort Wayne that were down at the homeless shelter and then living on the streets that were there by choice They chose to do that because they knew there were a lot of nice people in downtown Fort Wayne But if they walked up to him and said hey, can I have money for something to eat? They would give it to him. I've witnessed a girl young girl that was our age at the time, a little bit younger, who could walk around downtown asking for money for diapers and food for her baby and come back with a handful of money. And she didn't have no baby. See what I'm saying? Panhandlers go crazy down in this area because people are nice. They generally want to help people and they'll do it. Out west it's the same way. You've got a climate that's warm 24 hours a day. I'm sure South Carolina doesn't see a whole lot of cold weather, so it's a good place for people who have no place to live to be because there's a place where they can curl up somewhere and at least be warm for the night if they can't get something to eat. I've been homeless before and this kind of thing really pisses me off because I couldn't help it. It wasn't my fault that my roommate lied and had me moved out saying that the apartment complex is throwing you out. Well, no they didn't. He lied and threw me out in the street and then gave me a key to a vacant apartment and tried to set me up for a robbery. But I was too smart for that. I left and I put everything I own in a big red bag and I walked my happy ass around the street for about a month and a half in the middle of the winter. So I know what it's like to be homeless. I even had a job. I still went to my job every day, but I didn't have nowhere to go at the end of the day and put my head down and go to sleep. So I walked and I drank a lot of coffee and I stayed awake as long as I could. So it's no fun when you don't want to be there, but there are people that don't care. They don't mind and I think that's the kind of people that they're trying to get rid of down there on some of them, but there's still a lot of people nowadays That's totally different story. They can't find a job. They can't find a place to live. They don't have any money because all the jobs are out of the country. And now these idiots down here in South Carolina are trying to make it illegal to be homeless. That's about as... I really can't even compare that to stupidity. That's just outright evil if you ask me because these people can't help it. A lot of them can't. There's some here that, you know, there, and nowadays there's a lot of people that aren't down there because they want to be, they're down there because they have to be. And you still have a few walking around that, you know, they could not take care of themselves because here in Indiana they did this lovely deal back in the 90s where they, well we don't have the money anymore to keep the these hospitals that we have full of people that, well, they can't really take care of themselves. They're not all upstairs. They are missing a number of bricks from their load, but we're just going to dump them out on the street anyway, tough. If they can't find the next family member to go live with, then they're just homeless now. So there's a bunch of those people that live down at the homeless shelter now, too. but they actually live there, pay rent, and that's the crazy thing. If you go to the mission here, because you don't have any place to live, if you have a job, they will charge you $75 a week for rent. Now how can you put any money back to get a down payment on an apartment when you're paying $75 a week to live at the mission? You can get sleeping room for cheaper than that, but most people that are down there don't know that. and some of them, like I said, they can't take care of themselves. So they have trustees that run their bank accounts for them, and that makes me suspicious right there. I know a couple people that are like that, one in particular, and his trustee just quit, so the guy at the mission decided that he would take up and help. Now this guy's been working the place that I worked for about almost 30 years, and he's had a 401K the whole time, and I've been, he doesn't have enough mental capacity to take his 401k out and deal with it. He's got over a million dollars in his 401k, but he doesn't have enough brain and can't take care of it to get it out. So he has to leave it in there. He doesn't have any choice. There's nothing that he can do about it because he is not mentally able to take care of his bills. He can take care of himself. He can feed himself. go to work but when it comes to doing stuff like that there ain't no way. I don't I'm not sure what type of disability he has but he can talk to you and function just like a regular person but there's certain little things that you can tell that something's not right. He repeats himself a lot he's got a lot of quirk or what do you call that ticks you call it it's kind of like a Tourette's thing and He doesn't say things uncontrollably, but he doesn't understand when you talk to him sometimes. He doesn't get what you're saying. He doesn't read that well. He'll come and ask me to help him read something or read something to him, tell him what it says. But if you show him what to do and he repeats it enough times, then you don't have to tell him anymore. He can make recipes. He's been making the herb butter and the dressings. for years because he's got the recipe memorized and he'll never forget it. He'll probably remember it 10 years after he's dead. He'll still be in heaven making that stuff. But he's a real nice guy. He'll give you the shirt off his backpack if he can and that's the problem. I'm afraid that these people that are helping him with his affairs are robbing him and he doesn't even know it. because he's got enough money in the bank, he really doesn't know what to do with it. He doesn't buy anything and they probably might not even let him get it out, because he has to go through a trustee before he can buy anything. So it's hard telling, I really don't know the entire situation, but I've tried to get him to figure out a way to get other people out of his money and they ain't working. Sound like we had some callers come in there, you wanna hit your star six and come on in? Or you can just listen. Either way... Sorry about that, Spike. Oh, that's okay. Uh, just, uh... Finally got the coughing to stop us looking at the different, er, see little stupid drums that they've got there. They got some cute ones, some interesting features on a couple of them that are, yeah. Cute but nothing really practical that I've seen so far Most of them are set up you know for play which again what a surprise looks like we're at a giant toy store You know this looks extreme. I guess deal extreme does have some other Good stuff up there, but I was actually looking at the LEDs that they've got they've got a lot of info red LEDs up there Not just not not just the toy aspect of it But you know stuff for building other things like say you wanted to build an info red illuminator Just about anything you could imagine here. Oh, yeah, that's what I like about this site They've got if you can think of it. They probably got it somewhere and It's not usually that expensive but the problem is it takes a month for it to get here about three weeks so it that's the you save some but you also have to wait a while for it to get here uh... the two electronic cigarette packs that i ordered took about twenty days to get here from the day that i ordered it took them a week to process the order and ship it uh... the other place that i ordered stuff from was another uh... chinese outlet called health cabin dot com they don't have any of these types of things like this they have a different selection of other stuff. It's a health cabin type store. So they have, you know, various other stuff. They do have some electronics, but nothing like this. And it only took them about two and a half weeks to get it here. So that's a little bit quicker. Well, again, someone with a place that you order from, it looks like you're, you get stuff from warehouses in the US. This looks like it's direct from overseas. Yeah, it is. To give you the... From Hong Kong. reason for a longer delivery. Yes, and they have compasses right here. I'm looking at these two compasses because I know we've talked about them on my program before with our caller from the southwest area there and talking about lymphatic compasses and stuff like that. I'm looking at four different compasses right here, five different compasses on one page. from $1.35 to $7.80 and it looks like the $7.80 one. Looks about the nicest one. It's got a mirror on it. It's got the little plastic base and the lanyard to go around your neck. And it's really nice little deal here. I think this one is a lymphatic too. Nature Hike ZN709 slip open. It's a glow in the dark compass too, so you might not want that. Ruler, mirror, neck strap, multi-function portable compass, anti-shot glow in the dark with mirror, but it doesn't say whether it's lymphatic or not. And they have several other kinds here. They have a marching lymphatic compass, not lymphatic, like lymphoma. Lymphatic, that's this one here, $13.80, or $13.40. for a K4580 American style glow-in-the-dark marching lense attic compass and cinnamon color $13.84 if you buy three of them you get them for $11.85 and I would say that's a pretty good deal for a lense attic compass. The other question you got is you know where it's coming from I'd rather you know buy one test it before I buy a whole lot of stuff from Location, you know and just because we went to that page underneath of the actual listing There's let's see one two three four five more lens static compasses going all the way up to 40 bucks professional pocket geology compass with leather carrying pouch 39 77 that one looks pretty nifty there too. So going over there to deal extreme and then look around and And you might find something that you could put in your backpack for a good price. You can even get yourself a mini lightsaber LED keychain, Ed. Yeah, so that wasn't too interested in that. Oh yeah, that's probably not the best thing in the world. No, they've got a portable outdoor ultra mini stainless steel gas stove with case $8.60. Free shipping. Yes, those are look pretty nice ships within 72 hours. Yeah, that means out of their After 72 hours you still got 15 to 21 days. That's what it says from the little thing after you Go all through the order form and everything. It'll say after it'll say shipping time 15 to 21 days after shipped Now here's an interesting one a portable removable GPS tracking unit for vehicles Now I could think of some uses for that You know, but like it You know, we've talked about you know putting stuff on train cars and letting it run forever You know let them track it down certain areas. This is a fifty five dollar fifty cents four band GPS Vehicle positioning tracker and it hooks in to basic looks like it hooks right into your car battery basically if you wanted to track a vehicle Yeah, that's what I was thinking you pop that on somebody's car and well You got to do a little more than just pop it out to somebody's car. You gotta have a power source. It'll last oh yeah, okay Well there you go But if you've got a spook or kook in your area that you think is you need to keep an eye on that would be a good way to do it. Or you could follow them with one of these little drones. I don't think any of the little drones I've seen on here would keep up with the car. No, then some of the range is only 100 meter on one or two of them there. I saw 100 meters isn't that far really. But the GPS tracking device that would go pretty far. Yep, and you looks like it's designed to run off the car zone battery That would be neat Then you would have definite power source for quite a while I think it has several options for how it can be hooked up Interesting what you find when you go looking around in some of these weird places like deal extreme and health cabin DH gate is one of them that I like to go to and and look around. I've been trying to put the electronic cigarette business up and online here. I'm getting closer and closer, waiting on more parts to come in and my juice kit. These websites make it easy to go around. Well, not easy. It takes a lot of time to scroll through page after page after page and look for specific things because You might not find it in the search if you type in a certain thing for a search you might not have it in your head the same way they have it listed. So you're better off just scrolling through and looking because there's places where you'll find you know a good battery for a cheap price and you click on it and because it doesn't tell you what the minimum order is you go look at the minimum order they'll say you have to order a hundred or a thousand of them and it's like eight thousand dollars and you go yeah right. But if you go to that seller's store, they'll have more than one listing of that product for lower lot numbers. You can get down, some of them will even sell you five of them at a time. And they'll charge you a buck or two more or a penny or two more. But you don't have to order a hundred or a thousand of them if you keep digging you'll find where you can order ten or five or twenty however many you want to order. You know that wasn't even the smallest GPS tracker that they had. In fact I'm going scrolling through their GPS trackers right now. They got some pretty small ones that you could hide in some very convenient places. Oh here I just got a link to an article I saw I thought I saw this earlier. Police in Vegas say sovereign citizen plot to kill officers thwarted a couple spent hundreds of hours over four months plotting to abduct torture and kill Las Vegas police officers as a way to attract attention to their anti-authority sovereign citizen movement police said Yeah, like like they would do that that sounds like BS Yeah, Camp Bell Newman attended training sessions about sovereign citizens philosophy Yeah, they were they infiltrated the group and then they were gonna do something and how old were the people that they arrested? Oh The lady looks pretty old the guy doesn't look like he's all that old compared to the lady David Allen Bursch and Devon campbell Newman attended training sessions about sovereign citizen philosophies shopped for guns found a vacant house and rigged it to bind a captives to cross beams during interrogation and recorded videos to explain their actions and why officers had to die. Yeah, this is a total set up propaganda piece here. At every step police said Thursday an undercover officer was with them documenting and recording the alleged plot. Can you say undercover officer like the one that was involved with Hautari? Yep. Speaking of officers, I have a number of them speeding my way right now as I can hear outside the house. Speeding your way or speeding past? I think they went speeding past. The siren stopped, so hopefully they went fast. Newman, 67, of Las Vegas, was a bit nervous according to police. She asked at one meeting to unplug the television because she thought authorities could use it to listen to their conversations. Bursch was 42, so was a 42-year-old man and a 67-year-old woman. An ex-con child sex offender from California practiced stalking Newman, posing as a police officer and putting a gun to her head to take her into custody, the report said. The SWAT arrests of Bursch and Newman this week at their apartment about three miles east of Las Vegas Strip scuttled a carefully planned operation carefully planned operation Scuttled so they're saying it ruined. Yeah, they ruined their plan to to draw the world's attention to the sovereign citizen cause Las Vegas police lieutenant James Seabach and told reporters he characterized the case as a domestic terror plot. You know what I'm going to throw at the end of that one, but bull. They were furthering their sovereign citizen ideology by committing criminal acts towards law enforcement, Cebach said. The suspects believe that once the first kidnapping and execution was accomplished, they would be compelled to keep repeating their actions, kidnapping and killing multiple officers. Federal authorities regard sovereign citizen extremists as domestic terrorists. Authorities have linked sovereign citizen groups with violent confrontations in recent years, including deadly police shootings in Louisiana and Arkansas. Yeah, in Louisiana last year, police said that at least one of seven people arrested after a shootout that left two deputies dead and two others wounded had links to a sovereign citizen group. Yeah, but it doesn't say why they were being shot at, does it? or Y.O.Y. the whole situation went down it just gives a little piece. Well I don't think they would give out all that information and again anything like this falls into question right off the bat it sounds like the same BS that they were trying to pull with Hootari. Yep. You know and how many people did they get in this quote unquote you know mass plot that they arrested? Two. And one of them is an old woman. Yep. Do you really think they were going to do anything? No, I think they were just getting their sexual thrills doing all this. No, I think more or less it's the same thing with what happened with the Huttari situation. You got the agent, quote-unquote, Agent Pavakator, who of course is not being listened, they're not showing, you know. They say that there was a third person there who was a sex offender from California. What do you want to bet the sex offender? He was the 42 year old guy they arrested. He was the 42 year old man that was involved with the 67 year old woman. And then again, define sex offender because like in Ypsilanti, Michigan, if you spit on the sidewalk, you're considered a sex offender. Well, in some states, if you're 18 or 17 and your girlfriend's a couple years younger than you, then you get in trouble for that too if the parents want to push the issue. So, you know, there's a lot of different what ifs. Well, that's what I'm saying. That whole thing is in question, you know, of course one thing dad said has always said, you know first thing that they try to do is throw that BS on because it's the hardest to It's even if you disprove it the taint is still there. Yep It goes on to stay here in our stall in 2010 after a father and son identified a sovereign citizen followers shot and killed and Two police officers for being killed by authorities in a separate shootout. Of course that was Jerry and Joe Kane. Bursch and Newman were held Thursday at the Clark County Jail in Las Vegas pending court appearances on charges including conspiracy to commit murder and attempted kidnapping. It was not immediately known if they had lawyers. Police said the investigation began when the unidentified undercover officer befriended Bursch and Newman in April. Authorities haven't released video evidence, but the 10-page police report states that every one of the 30 meetings with the undercover officer was recorded by audio or video. We need to arrest the police and take them to our jail and put them in a cell and put them on trial in a People's Corp. I agree with that. Bursch said July 9th according to the arrest report if we run into a position that they resist then we need to kill them. I don't agree with that. During a tour of gun stores the next day Bursch said that they were planning what they were planning was going to be big and they would really get a large following once they started because of the publicity the report said. I doubt that. I don't think anybody is going to jump up and follow them. Police said that when Burch was arrested, he denied that police had authority to hold him. Newman told a KLAS TV reporter in Jailhouse interview Thursday that she didn't really think Burch was serious about kidnapping and killing police and that officers overstepped their authority in arresting her. That was by Associated Press writer Hannah Dreher and she contributed to that report. That was from Fox News in Vegas. So yeah, weird, weird happenings there as we look to this as another one of the hoo-tah-ree things. Who knows what these people really were doing because as we can tell from other things that we've seen happen with our own two eyes right here on the Pretty Tree Radio, they like to make up a lot of things, don't they Ed? Yeah, they do. And I will say again, you know, as I said majority of what you read there wasn't all that bad and it's a lot of what the sovereign movement agrees with then they start throwing in this other stuff and I guarantee you it's the undercover agent anytime they come up with the BS like this the one who's adding all this extra stuff on there is the undercover agent and everybody else is just trying to distance themselves from them but nope that's the BS that they use to go after and attack people with yeah it surely is We are approaching the top. Got a few minutes left before the militia town hall meeting so y'all get your phones warmed up to call in for the militia town hall meeting. I'm still looking through a couple of things on deal extreme. That caught my eye that we're of interest. Not sure how well some of this would work. I'd have to get like the scale and the size and the weight, but I think you got just about everything you would need here to actually make a camera-ed up drone. Ah, the earlier report I was reading about the homeless people here, I just caught the end of this here as I was slipping back through my tabs. And when you get down to the end of the article here, it says the ACLU are considering bringing lawsuits. Courts are increasingly ruling against similar measures against the homeless and even Columbia's acting police chief is blocking by an inexplicably and admirably noting that homelessness is not a crime. So the police chief doesn't even want to mess with the homeless people. Well, just think of what a headache that would be making their job into. Oh yeah. I mean already they don't. already you're pulling them away from their benches at the donuts at the donut shop you know with this crack down on drunk driving yeah they do that every couple months Well, crack down on drunk driving. Well, if you look at it like that, the law, the way they've got it written, if you've got so much alcohol in your bloodstream, well, different people's bodies— Respond, I know. Yeah, they get rid of the alcohol at different ways, or not different ways, but different amounts at different times. Some people, it stays in their body a little bit longer. Other people, they can drink a beer and it'll be out of their system to a level where they could blow a breathalyzer in 20 minutes. But other people- Well even if you can't blow a breathalyzer, I know a couple of people who could drink a pint of beer and still drive down the road safely. Oh yeah. Okay, and they would never pass a breathalyzer test. Yep. Never. Oh man, I was a bartender. I know lots of people came in every day and walked out of the bar and e-briated. They would never pass a breathalyzer. No, no, not even an e-briated. An e-briated means you're drunk to the point where you're stumbling. These guys never, they drink that much, but they'd never be stumbling, but because of the way the breathalyzer works, they would never pass the breathalyzer test. Right. And people like that would come into my bar or where I worked and they'd have a few beers and then they'd go to Dana's second shift and work the rest of the night. And when they got off work they would come back and have a couple more beers. Probably one of the funniest guys we had we called him Otis because he was just like Otis the town drunk on Mayberry Yeah, except nowadays if they're if they caught Otis drunk They would throw him in the jail cell and charge him with some BS because he just can't have him in the drunk tank sleeping off You know being drunk we have to make him a criminal in some way to explain why he's in the drunk tank We had it we went to work one morning and to open up the bar We opened at seven o'clock in the morning for breakfast And me and the bartender, I was the head cook back then and I walked up, we walked up to the door and this guy has passed out up against the building. He's leaning, he's down on his like his haunches on his feet. But he's, you know, he's got his knees bent and he's leaning up against the building and he's passed out drunk. And we were kind of, with the building, the back of the building faces an alley. And we woke him up, Otis, Otis, the cops are here, man, the cops are looking for you, Otis. He didn't even open his eyes. He stood up and took off running across the parking lot, across the alley, hit a fence, flipped over head first into a garbage can and his legs were still running. It was. You had to be there. You had to know this guy. He was a menace. He was a pest. And he would come around and try to bum money off people and hang out in the bar. Oh, well, Spike, we are up at the top of the hour. Hey, the militia town hall meeting is coming up next. I mean, this bike will be there along with everybody else. Well, we'll take a quick break and then we'll be right back. God bless the Republic. Death to the new world order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. We are on the march. On the run. Yep. Alright, God bless and stay tuned. We will be right back. We are the sons, yes we are the sons, the sons of Liberty. In the price they're always paid, the time is sweet. 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