August 20, 2013
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Nancy Kornke hosted the second hour of the Intelligence Report on August 20, 2013, providing updates on Mark Koernke's mother Juanita's recovery from a stroke and surgery, thanking listeners for prayers and donations. The show discussed a 1993 Handgun Control Incorporated confidential document outlining gun control proposals, analyzing how those proposals have been implemented over time and connecting them to recent gun control efforts following Sandy Hook. A caller asked detailed questions about ammunition reloading equipment (Lee and RCBS presses), powder measurement techniques, and .308 caliber rifle options (PTR 91 vs. AR-15 uppers), with Nancy and Ed providing practical advice on reloading safety and firearm choices.
- gun control
- second amendment
- handgun control incorporated
- reloading ammunition
- ar-15
- 308 caliber
- ptr 91
- preparedness
- sandy hook
- liberty tree radio
- constitutional rights
- militia
- semi-automatic weapons
- ammunition shortage
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Live 365 Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors, so their children will be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores, and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each god given right we only watch in tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Good evening ladies and gentlemen. This is the intelligence report. I'm Nancy corny and I'm Edward corny And this is, well, this is the second hour this evening of the Intelligence Report here on Liberty Tree Radio. Yep, and you're listening to us on AM and FM stations CB base stations Liberty tree radio dot 4 mg calm Indiana Freedom talk radio dot com The whole mark and grandma networks bringing you the alternative internet with the Golden Spike Project and a myriad of other Alternative networks across the country that we are not aware of so we'll say hi to everybody Well hello today of course is August 20th That's a Tuesday. I do want to thank everyone for their prayers. We did receive a few cards today. Uh oh. Uh oh. No, I was just checking. I thought I muted my mic and I didn't. Anyway, I wanted to thank those of you that sent cards and donations. For marks mom and and your canola says she is doing better and I'm the app swing and the you know the Long of it, she stays stable and starts to improve. The better her chances are for survival. That was the thing that they were very worried about with her stroke. The lower colon bursting, they had to retake a lot of that colon out and of course put in She was given a very slim chance of survival with that due to that bursting peritonitis and then actual gangrene set in. So she is on the recovery. She was able to get her back to work. Not last night, but the night before, be able to sit up, talk to Mark and his sister, recognize them. That's the first time she recognized anybody since this happened. Also, was able to get a little food down, so the body is starting to respond and kick back in to do the regular functions. So, this is a good thing. Again, thank you so much for your prayers. and you're concerned, goodness. Ed, I know we also, I do want to mention real quick too that we do have that big bill coming up here due by the 1st of October and that is for that once a year bill that's always out there. $365 and it's cheaper to pay it this way than it is to do a monthly billing. Do the monthly billing, yep. So we're trying to raise $2000. I haven't checked the total today guys so it still has yesterday's total check on it I'm having to manually do that since they attacked Chippen for you know being able to people being able to take donations to save their homes they thought that that was cute that that was the reason that they put up on the website for that. God forbid you you raise funds to keep going into foreclosure and being homeless down the street hmm that's not like a plan It's a bank that bought up the website. Of course. It was a free applet and it was a nice app for web pages. But you know, we've had to move on past that and now we're doing it this way. It allows me to show what the VIP listeners have put in so far and you can see it's a pretty good chunk. We've also had a bunch of donations come in so far. We're working that way guys, we'll get there. And for the VIP listeners, and again, the more money that will go toward it, if you listen more. The longer they listen, the more of their VIP dues goes towards the station. Of course, helps if we have live content for people to listen to, and everybody knows we've been working on getting more and more out there. Spike shifted time so he can do the whole week instead of just three days out of the week. It's awesome cool Yeah, we still like Craig with forbidden knowledge on Wednesday's we've got Henry Shively with the word from the trenches before the intelligence report for two hours, right? I'm doing a music mix again live I'm not getting to Come up and announce the tracks as often as I like because I got stuff in between that I've got to do guys But we are We have a lot more live content than we had in the past. On Saturdays too we have... We have BC's program, the Liberty Bible Hour. And then we have 3 hours of Braveheart radio, which is via... our adult explicit program and they put their disclaimer on the front of that guys so if you've tuned in and you've got what sounds like three old guys that have gotten drunk and are sitting behind a microphone on the radio that's probably what it is. That's what you're listening to on Saturday. Couple of wild and crazy guys, let me tell you. Hello! That's not the call in line. Uh oh. Hey. So, but no, we're working on it and things are happening. We're also looking of course for more sponsorship so that we can help take care of these things. We do have that available for the donation page on the Liberty Tree Radio webpage. You can also, if you'd like to help out with that, send Donations Direct to LTR, make checks payable to me, Nancy Kornke. It goes to PO Box 194, Dexter, Michigan 48130. Again, that's PO Box 194, Dexter, Michigan 48130. I don't know. We might have Mark on. I don't know. I'm hoping Mark calls in. He was talking about calling in last night, but I know he's been worried about his mom and taking care of business down there getting stuff squared away, but Goodness, it's been good news. I was I was very worried about about Juanita and that's Hopefully she will continue to do well and recover it's been up almost a week now since this happened, so things are looking up. This is a good thing, and we will continue to pray and keep her and dad and our thoughts as we go through. There's been, oh, so much sickness too. Kelly, of course, Kelly McNeil is home from the micro effect in the morning. and she's doing better, she's there, the family's all pitching in to help take care of mom and that's awesome. Goodness, Ed. It's been a long day. Or you can send us a check or money order in the mail to PO Box 194 or some FRN's wrapped in aluminum foil if you want to. Yep. That's PO Box 194, Dexter, Michigan 48130 again that's PO Box 194, Dexter, Michigan zip code 48130. I'm gonna keep calling it an area code like you're making a phone call. It's because you're out here. I like the way the guys at Braveheart do it though, the Missile Defense Targeting Code. I do want to mention, because I know Mark was making this available again, and that is a 1993 handgun control incorporated their confidential paper oh my goodness it was important so important well it's and it is it is important because that's exactly what they're going through page by page say they are using everything they did here I mean I'm reading this and oh well we got to keep it we got to keep it in the media in their base this is brand new we never thought of this we wouldn't be doing this if it weren't for Sandy Hook Oh yeah, right. Well, what is pending now can be law in 1994. Ban of all clips holding over six bullets. Hello! Yeah, I remember that when it came out. Ban on all semi-autos which can fire more than six bullets without reloading. Ban of possession of parts to convert arms into military configuration. Excuse me. Believe it, World War I, we were actually fighting with shotguns. Hello! Ban on all pump shotguns capable of being converted to over five shots without reloading. You know, hello. Honestly, if you look at the firearms that are used for hunting today, they had military applications, ladies and gentlemen. I'm sorry. It's a few thing is is that there is they're trying to grandfather this stuff in too I'm sorry. There's a law against that hello, but I'm actually reading from the list here of things that they want they want to do Arsenal licensing for possession of multiple guns and large amounts of ammunition What do you mean by large amounts? We've already seen that with Homeland Security. They consider anything over a thousand rounds to be an arsenal. So if you got two 500 bricks at 22, you've got an arsenal. Yeah, ridiculous. Elimination of the Department of Civilian Marksmanship. Ooh, gee, does Camp Perry know about this? Hmm. Long considered a sacred cow and a dinosaur from the Cold War years. Well, let's see. Thank you, President Clinton. Oh, boy. And they were serious. And there's a thanking President Clinton. Oh, my. Ban a possession of a firearm within a home located within 1,000 feet of a schoolyard. Well, that's been reduced. Thank goodness. in the school. I know there is in the high school here during classes, during the day, they're there. I can see them on the front. Well that rule is for you peasants, that doesn't apply to us. If we would never, as a police officer, we would never go off our nut and shoot a bunch of people like that guy in El... Oh. Cool key then. Yeah, well, you know it's our your local postman that They have the where the post office has their own SWAT team. How many postal workers that we single? postal postal yeah More or less because they brought the drinks in the pros act hello and every multiple as we all know You know a hundred percent. I will go I will go there now I would they say ninety ninety eight percent before mom's a it almost It's 98 or 99.9. If anybody has any information on that, give us a call in our chat room at 712-432-0900. And of course the PIN number is 954-944-944. 6 4 and the pound sign again, that's 7 1 2 4 3 2 0 900 and The pin number to get in is 9 5 7 4 6 4 and hit the pound sign the two largest professions are most likely to commit subicu with the pistol is Law enforcement and psychiatrist Hmm, what is that? But they're the ones who want to be able to tell you that you can't have a firearm. Right. Well, yeah. Okay. Oh gee, here's one they were just bringing up. I have taxes on ammo, dealers, licenses, and guns to offset the medical cost to society and dot dot dot. And the eventual ban of all semi-automatics regardless of when made or what caliber. There's your grandfathering right there. Regardless of when it was made or what caliber. And gee, when you bought it too. We're just going to out-loud, make that all out loud. Give you time to turn it in. Crazy stuff. Yeah. But that's their plan, point for point for point, on down the line. And then there is confidential papers. It's amazing how we get our hands on. But if you would like a copy of this, oops that was me, sorry about that, hit my mic. If you would like a copy of that, a handgun control incorporated 1993 list and gee there's a whole bunch of names on the front too, Sarah Brady being one of them. You might want to get a copy of this so that you can show those disbelievers out there that, you know, That these people oh my goodness you know what they have in store for us and they have been hammering away and The first page are saying keep it keep the you know keep Their ideals in the in the media so you know it's it's their goal to bring forward any handgun incident or any gun incident that will further their cause if they can use to strum up more business for themselves, if you will, to gain more funds, to get into Congress and the Senate and lobby to have more gun ban legislation brought forward. And you don't think so? It is too convenient that The day after any incident takes place that you have legislation on the floor the very next day. It's right there in your face. It has been time and time again to the point where I forget which one it was. We're in Texas, like no, we're not, absolutely not. This is too convenient that it's hitting the floor, that this incident happened just the day before we are bringing this to a vote. No, this is contrived. Almost as though it had been planned. so that it would fall on the day prior. And you don't think that those types of things don't happen out there? And you want to tell me there's no such thing as conspiracies to, to disarm the American people, to bring this to a socialist state. Oops, hey, Mr. and Mrs. Clinton, you know, you who left the White House, when you left the White House, swore to bring socialism to America. and you're behind part of this as well? No. I don't buy it. You know, that you would never do that. Nonsense. You're there, you're political, you know how to manipulate the populace. You've been doing it for years and you will continue to try to manipulate the people of this nation in this venue. And it's not Not everyone's blind and not everyone is going to listen as Abe Lincoln said. You know, you can fool me. You may fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all the people all the time. There are those that have their eyes and ears open. The blinders are off and we have our eye on you. Understand that. Because those of us that are awake, and have knowledge of your actions, will remember and record your actions and your words, so that history will tell, even if by word of mouth your deeds will be known. Your actions have been recorded for all time in the eyes and ears of the public. Again, we're going to give out that that chat room. I'm sorry the Phone chat where if you want to come in and talk to us here calling number for the conference room is 1712-432 I've got one heck of an echo off of myself. There we go. 4320900 and the conference room number is 957-464 and the pound sign. Again, that caller number is 1712-432-0900. Room number 957-464 and the pound sign. We'll hear a ding and we'll ask for callers. And... star six if you're the first one who hears us. Right. There we go. So if you have any comments or have anything to go, let's go. We're waiting to hear from you. And this is a form for you where you can come in and chat with us and discuss what's going on today. Or if you want, you can just call that number and listen in on the phone too. Sometimes, better reception that way. Oh, goodness. We're gonna take a quick break here. We're at the bottom of the hour, so we'll be back with more from Liberty Tree Radio We're back with more the intelligence report. I'm Nancy Kornke and of course we have Ed here in the studio with me I like Robert Boyd. Oh, yeah, so do I. Yes, he does. I miss a miss calling from time to time that's still out there doing some Patriot music and of course the Southern Pride. We actually lost contact with him and dad was trying to get him to rehook up. Yeah. Because the information that we have for him is no longer valid. The website that we had for him also is a dead link so. Robert if you can hear us or if there are any family members of Robert that can let us know what's going on with him. Please get ahold of us at liberty at provide.net or libertytreeradio at yahoo.com. Yeah, somebody's saying Elvis! He does have that quality to his voice, that's for sure. That deep timber in the voice. Goodness. Years ago when Mark was behind the wire he wrote a song for us. That was really, really nice. Since I'm... get some... Actually, we have those CDs still here, rounded about. Yeah, it's a single, my perfect friend. Well, there's that and then there was the other one that he sent here if you put together just for LTR. Well, we got CDs up for donation. Right, it's there. They're up on the website, but the one that you were referring to, the one that he did for you and dad, is a single called My Perfect Friend, and I think they have that up on the website still. I might have taken it down last time I tried to fix the donation page. Uh oh. That was very nice. play that sometime. It's a very nice song but he did some really nice Patriot music but you're right, Visitor in the chat room there does have that Elvis kind of tone to the voice but he does some Southern Pride music and of course some Patriot music too. Nice guy. Nice guy. The Southern Pride music is Patriot music mom. I know. It falls into the same category. I understand that. But that's how he explains his genre, shall we say, of music. But the Handgun Control Incorporated, if you want a copy of that, I believe it's a 10- Does he have a $10 donation? I think that may be on the... What are you talking about? The Handgun Control Incorporated. That's not up on the webpage. I don't know how much he was asking. I know it, but it's not coming to me right now. I'm doing too many things at once. That's okay. I know somebody sent me $10 for one today. So I'm going to assume that that's what he's doing. It's $10. It's several pages long. But if you want a copy of your own that you can take and make copies and hand out to the folks in your area that are die hard gun advocates, people that love to hunt, they like to shoot in competition shooting. They need to know what's in store for them and this is the blueprint, if you will, that handgun control came up with back December 30th of 1993. Gee, hmm, what else have we seen of that? After Christmas, maybe four New Years, just two days before New Years in 1990. 1993, December 30th, but dates right on here, the date received, update on distribution lists, and there's probably a dozen names on there and from there they have grown, obviously, and continue to go on. They use this as a blueprint to take your guns. to take your freedom, your liberty, to try to turn you into a slave and these same people, these same people that would take your guns, nine times out of ten, as in the case with Jane Fonda, they have their own guns that they don't feel they need to register. It's their right. And I believe we got a caller. Hello caller. Gotta give them time to star six to unmute themselves. star of star six to unmute yourself. Go ahead and do that. Yes, that's okay. Yes. No, you can you can listen in through this number. That's fine. We have a lot of people that do that. His mother had a stroke. and surgery thereafter, so he is with her. Now mind you, she's 92 years old and they did not expect her to survive. So we've been asking for prayers for her and at this time he's with her. So I'm filling him. Yeah. Well thank you. I appreciate that very much. For those that would like to send a card, you can send it here and I will forward that on. If you'd like to send Mark's Mamba card, a get-well card. I understand she has Alzheimer's. But a wealth of prayers and cards would do her a world of good. Something pretty and colorful. She was always into art. So whether she knows who it's from or not, send your blessings and your prayers in writing if you would. to her you can do that by by writing to dropping a card in the mail to PO Box 194 Dexter, Michigan 48130 I know we had Several that arrived today just out of the blue we didn't ask for that, but it was very nice And I will be forwarding those on thank you Did you have anything else? No, I was just I was just listening for about like a year now And I've always heard of always just skip you know all the other shows and has watched marks five o'clock one till six and then seven to eight and I just haven't heard his voice in a little bit I'm just curious. Yeah that's that's what's going on it's you know uh we're we're the younger children of of you know World War II vets and uh you know both both families um All four of our parents were the eldest during the Great Depression. So we've had a lot of really good upbringing on preparedness. They lived through some pretty dire times and have done some really amazing things. So we've been blessed. We have been blessed. Thank you. I was just I was interested in in the reloading. I just just want to get his opinions on which brands are best and which ones are over a price. For what? Like a Leigh or a Dylan or something like that. Both are good choices depending on what you want to do. He believes in keeping it simple. Something that you can take with you is always nice. Doing the hand loading. Something you can actually do in the field if need be. I know he's a big advocate of that, but if you have a Dylan Press or a Lee Press, either one works very well. I know he's used both. and you know you want to get your specs down good. I would go, you know, if you're just getting started you want to go with what's recommended and as you learn the craft then you can experiment a little more. You don't want to overload so that you're not creating problems with your casings and of course with the barrel of your gun either. So, you know, keep that in mind. Everything needs to be measured properly and seated properly. Right, exactly. As a matter of fact, he just picked up another micrometer. I have the digital one, but I was thinking about getting an analog as well. It would be a good idea to get an analog one because you never know how long those batteries are going to last or if you'll be able to replace them in the future. Right, you gotta think about your field use. You gotta think about the field use folks, that's for sure. So, you know, if you've got something digital, it's the newest, it's the latest, it's the greatest, well, until the batteries run out. Or, you know, you can't get that supply. So going analog is not a bad idea. Getting used to using the old tools. Oh gosh. Ed can tell you his dad loves the old tools. Every Yankee screwdriver he picks up. He can't resist. They had a lifetime guarantee and even after the person has passed away he's right there and he's got it. It's like, look what I got! I got another one! It's something that doesn't need, it's not a power tool. The power that you use is the power. The old elbow grease. It is a power. It just uses elbow power. Yeah. That's what I was saying. It's, you know, people power. And at that, and if that's what you've got at the time, that's what you use. I was wondering, I'm curious on how, I know that you can weigh the actual load or whatever. Yes. But if you're in a field, would you have a container that holds a certain amount or would you use like a finger scale? There are small scales that will fit in the back of the pad, but there is also what you're talking about where you don't shake that powder down. You don't want to, you know, kind of like flour when you're cooking. You kind of sift it first so that it's loose. You don't pack it. So that's, you know, until you're done with that measure. Would this work for all car steers? Because I've been buying a lot of 270 because the 223 that I'm able to find at 556 is going for a dollar around even at Walmart. Oh, yeah Mark up the price up. So I'm I want to get more bang for my buck I figure I go get big board cartridges and maybe like reloading stuff for it because I've been saving like all my brass Cool. Very good. I just want to make sure that if you're doing the Pre-scale if you've got a container that you've determined is the you know, that's the amount of powder I need per cartridge You just want to make sure you don't pack it in Unless you have a specific unless it specifically says to pack it in but most reloading I've seen it's not back it in no It's in my throat right if you pack it too tight If you pack it too tight, it may not go off, it may expand too much in the chamber. That's what we're saying. Then you get cracked cases and damage to barrels. And you don't need that happening. No. Follow the instructions carefully. There are a number of guides out there. It's not my area of expertise, obviously. But definitely, you know, it's something that can be learned. It's not rocket science, but I guess it's the way it is. Technically it is. Technically it is because you are dealing with explosives. And you're trying to get distance and penetration and all that other fun stuff. If you get really into it, it can be rocket science. It can be science. We have a friend that does that. He's one of the President's 100 shooters. So one of the top 100 shooters in the nation and it's his passion to do reloads and he reloads for a whole lot of people. Yeah. So it could be, you know, you could actually make a business out of it if you get proficient at it enough. So, something to think about. There's certainly a market out there right now for ammunition and if you're reloading and have the stuff to do it, guess what? You can you can do a good business at a gun show with stuff that you've reloaded provided that you you do a good job of it and it's reliable That's very important. I just had one more question or whatever. I noticed you guys through YouTube I watched a video And it was about like 308 like set me's and PTR 91 and HK 91 is the same thing pretty much But I don't I don't know if it would be a better idea to get like another upper and like spare parts for an AR-15 because I really want to get into like a Semiamatix 308, but I can't find 308 and it's overpriced. I'm not even sure if I did it if that was the smart approach or should I just invest in other things that I already have? Well if you already have an AR-15 and I would if you want to get into it but you can't find the ammo for it the upper is a good solution because you're not buying a totally new firearm you're just swapping out the barrel in the upper receiver. Yeah that's what I was saying on having one designated for a scope and then the other with like red dot with a some that you could bring maybe two guns with you at once you could go with like a red dot and then if you need to hope you can always just switch it out. Now we know that we know there are pros and cons with the AR-15 and the other variants of that model but they're all still the basically the AR-15-M16 frame that you're dealing with. What is the new Domeclatia they're giving the new one? The M4? That's the one that's popular with it's just a carbine with a shoulder. Hey the collar, this is Meat Eater, I was listening I'm not quite sure if what you're saying is that you have an AR-15 223 slash 556 type rifle and you are looking at getting a .308 and you were thinking about getting a .308 also called a .10. Hopper, is that what you're thinking about? No, I was thinking about getting a PTR 91 because about a few months ago they were like $900 or something. I don't even know if the price went up, but all the AR15s had went up. I don't know if the PTR is enough. They're about $1,100 right now. You can get them at Atlantic Firearms. I highly recommend the PTR. The G.I. standard G.I. model is great. That's all I want to do. I like to follow Jeff Greena. Yeah, it's a great rifle. It's available, if it's not available now, it should be available in a few weeks. They're getting consistent orders at Atlantic Firearms. If you're looking for 308 ammo and also 223 ammo, a good provider online is called righttobearammo.com and the two is a numeral two. Another provider that you're going to find