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For even now his tyrants trample each God given right we only watch in tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave? And this is the intelligence report I'm Edward corny filling in for mark corny. I believe we got BK Yep, that's this is butter knife and and the echo is back again. Oh, yeah Well, we had to reconnect. So of course Skype is gonna Skype us I believe we've got spike as well Sitting there in the wings Okay, so the dog is back or still out walking around which is okay and you're listening to us on liberty tree radio dot 4 mg dot com on live 365 you're listening to us on myriad of micro AM and FM stations, CB base stations, you're also listening to us on the Home Mark and Grandma networks, bringing you the alternative to the internet and several other small networks that we don't even know about. We welcome you all to continue listening to the broadcast this afternoon. I've been filling in for dad, so you guys have been hearing a lot of my voice, a lot more than normal lately. And I'll admit, I've kind of been taking the subjects into different directions. If you guys want to steer us back on course, just let us know. But BK, you're with us. It's Quartermaster's Corner, so go ahead and take it away. All right, this evening it is 16 August 2013. This Friday evening it is the last hour of the day and the week for the intelligence report and that makes this quarter masters corner. And we also have Joe on the line. Our friend, say hello Joe. Hello everyone. Anybody that is interested in calling in and asking specifically, well, generally any old question you like, but specifically anything gardening related is invited to do so because that's Joe's adopted field of expertise and he is prepared to field those questions to whatever degree he can. Let's start out. Once again, we have a periodic coupon code available from HoneyVilleGrain.com. Now we have called out HoneyVille Green in the past and we will undoubtedly do so again in the future. These guys are a purveyor of freeze dried and dried foods in bulk. Bulk being number 10 cans or in a few cases large packages. They can be found at a store. honeyvillegrain.com that's honey h-o-n-e-y-v-i-l-l-e grain dot com every once in a while they run a coupon code periodically I would say on a frequency of something like every two months is my guess they run a coupon code most commonly 10 percent across your entire order every once in a very long while it's 15 percent and one time some run at 20%. I have seen them run 20% only once and 15% very rarely. 10% is the usual sale comes up every couple of months. I hate to interrupt you, but we're having a little lag with you so I'm going to disconnect on Skype and reconnect with you and hopefully that'll clear it up. Alright? Okay. So BK will be back shortly and he'll continue on where he left off. Or will he be getting it? Cyloni-fax? Yeah, we're getting them still. I think that's probably as good as it's gonna get. I was just hoping it would clear up. Okay, I have killed the fan which Mark was suspicious of last time. Maybe that will change things. Perhaps it is confusing some aspect of the digital signal processing in Skype. At any rate, Honeyvale Grain is running one of their coupon codes. The coupon code is Foodie, F-O-O-D-I-E. Enter that code into checkout and it gets you 10% off your entire order. As always, they charge something in the order of $4.50 shipping for your entire order as such it is not particularly carnivorous on the shipping and handling front as some of the vendors are. I have occasionally dealt with vendors where you're going through and you're putting together a shopping cart full of stuff and you get down to ordering and you see what the shipping is and you say, Holy Smoke, forget that and just scratch the whole thing. They're trying to avoid that situation. Routinely, I call out Honeyville as the source if you want to stock up on powdered egg. I consider that their flagship product. I don't know if they consider that their flagship product. Its cost has gone up. It used to be available in a 50 pound bulk pack for $200. And the last I saw it was somewhere in excess of 240. So it has been creeping up. On the other hand, if you buy it when there's 10% off, you're knocking off $24 and you're getting down closer to what it once was. That is a very inexpensive method of stirring up some protein that bottles and saves well in any sort of airtight container. They say a couple of years. I say that most of these things last much longer even if they're losing a little bit of flavor or something along those lines. Let's see. Let me throw out a random item here. And this is the sort of thing that Mark would have gone off on for 10 minutes or 15. But I have mentioned in the past that my dad is kind of failing. And as a tactic to try to keep them a little bit more grounded in the here and now, I've made a point of every week I visit or he visits or we do something along those lines. So there is a rhythm to the week. Last few weeks we have been nipping out to the movie theater. There's one around here that's one of those dinner theaters. It's pretty neat. You get a very, very comfy, cushy electric reclining seat and it's got a little TV table and there's a waiter service. That's kind of neat, you know, and he picks up the bill so I don't mind. Therefore, we have been seeing more movies than is my want. I have seen more movies in the last month than I have seen in the preceding 10 years as in theater movies. Last week was Elysium. Okay? I'm going to save you some money that you can spend on your preps instead. Don't see it. I don't know if any of the people that we have online in chat, etc., have seen it. Joe, Ed, have any of you guys seen it yet? Certainly seeing the trailers for it, your life equals a barcode, a bit of communism, is that about right? Yeah, yeah, that's the teaser and that is intended, I think, to suck in people like us. But what you actually get when you buy the ticket and watch the movie is something a little bit different. First off, I will mention that looking through the credits, it is written and directed by Neil Blomkamp. and I guess you can read into that anything you want. Here is a spoiler. So if you're dead set on seeing that movie, put some wax in your ears for the next couple of minutes because I'm going to spoil it. Alright? According to this movie, there are two classes of people. Well, we know from the trailers that Earth is overcrowded and its resources are depleted and there are lots of poor people on Earth. And there is a super-duper space station up in the sky with lots of rich people. know from the trailers here's what you find out when you actually watch the movie there are two kinds of people in the universe the good guys and the bad guys all the good guys are poor Mexicans living in LA All the poor Mexicans living in LA are good guys. Even the coyotes are tarnished knights. I don't think coyotes are tarnished knights, but that's the way this one was portrayed in the movies. All the bad people are rich white Americans living on the space station. All the rich white Americans living on the space station are bad people. There is no overlap. The only variation from that is Matt Damon who is the main character who is a poor white American living in LA. He has an industrial accident, finds that he has to get up to the space station for medical treatment. Now here's the thing, all the rich white Americans up in the space station have a Guadalupe Sarca or the next best thing a super duper high-tech super science medical couch. that medical couch will fix anything under the sun in 30 seconds or less. Doesn't matter if you've got leukemia, broken arm, one guy has his face blown completely off by a grenade but for some reason doesn't seem to be much inconvenience by it. They get him onto the medical couch and he gets fixed in like 30 seconds. Good as new up and at him at a man. Well, Anybody who can get onto one of these medical couches is immediately fixed, or whatever their problem is. So guess what? Practically everybody on Earth has a very cute child who is definitely ill from leukemia or something else. Their main purpose in life is to find a way to sneak on board the space station, even if only for a short while. Find a residence, kick in the door, literally, Get their kid onto the medical couch and push the big magic button and not be interrupted for 30 seconds. The subtexts are intensely political and about as subtle as a 2x4 across the temple. All of the poor, suffering, ill children are also very cute and so on and so forth. Whenever they kick in a door, there isn't anybody screaming and freaking out. The houses are always unoccupied. The medical couches are always unoccupied. all of that medical resources are just idle and waiting and the only reason the poor Mexican people don't have access to it is the rich white Americans are such blue meanies and the storyline continues and eventually the hero hacks the computer system granting full citizenship to all those poor starving Mexicans and Nirvana ensues as all of that ill-gotten lucre is distributed to the poor starving Mexicans who are so desperately in need of medical care. So, that is the story and I don't think it's very hard for you to figure out what the political subtext of the whole thing is. As I said, it's about as subtle as a 2x4 upside that had and therefore I believe that I have probably saved you 12 bucks or whatever you would have spent going to see Elysium and you can spend it on sardines or something. Very good. And of course, you know, with that, week what will we put our money into instead of the uh... the movie you know i i'm sure that time with that can't be replaced uh... you know but at the same time here we go we have specials and and whatnot uh... you know these kinds of movies like their toxic to the brain Well, that one certainly was. I enjoyed Iron Man 3 and Wolverine and so on. Oh, there is another interesting little subtext that's running. This one is common between Iron Man 3 and Elysium, and I found it very interesting. I approved of Iron Man 3. One of the neat little things they slipped in there was the concept that the evil terrorist overlord The Mandarin in Iron Man 3, plug your ears if you haven't seen it and you plan to, is in fact completely fake. He is an actor, he is a media creation, the front man for the actual villain. So the Mandarin bin Laden, oops, did I say that, is actually an actor and a fake. That was kind of a slick little thing that they plopped in there. However, the other thing that I found very, very interesting and a little bit ominous is that the villainous mercenary in Elysium, this is the guy that is doing most of the fighting with the hero Matt Damon, as well as the actor who portrayed the fake Mandarin, the fake terrorist threat in Iron Man 3. Both of them were Australians. those, those are Australians as they say. their approach to L being a little bit different from ours. I found it kind of interesting that those sub-villains were in two recently released large budget movies. Australians, it makes me wonder whether there is something nasty scheduled for Australia and we need the predictive programming to condition the American public to not be terribly sympathetic with those evil villains. I mean those Australians. Any thoughts on that? Australia certainly has had their gun rights revoked. One of our regular callers, Jamie, down there in northern New South Wales, in that area, he's mentioned that they've got some predictive programming down there in the gun confiscation route, and it's very difficult to even get into a target range now. So I wouldn't be surprised if this is just the next step in that chain of events. Yeah, I don't know whether it's hard to become a member of some sort of gun club, but it is a prerequisite to actually being granted permission to own a bolt-action rifle. You have to have a reason to own the thing and self-defense does not qualify. Participation in meets is considered grudgingly to still be grounds to qualify and there are all these people have to join the gun club. They have to show up there four times a year or what have you and pretend to compete so that they can actually be granted the Queen's permission to own a firearm. I have a friend who's going through all that process right now and he tells me about the prices of these things and I think, man, that's a $250 rifle, $800 down there, that sort of stuff. On the other hand, it may have an unanticipated consequence. Those guys being restricted to the bolties are becoming the riflemen that Americans used to be. We are being conditioned to use the space guns. with the large-cap magazines and all that kind of good stuff and they are being constrained to squeezing off the shots one at a time and the nature of the actions available to them is such that the only grounds they can really compete in is accuracy at range. So that's an interesting reverse side effect perhaps. Okay, let's make a quick run through the component supply situation. Natchez Shooting Supply has a fair amount of .223. They have Lake City 62 grains. It is $665 per thousand, but they do actually have it. And they also have Lake City in a sack. that is XM855, 62 grains green trip, 500 per bag for $337, so that's very nearly the same cost by half as much in a lump. I did not see any .22LR. I'm not sure at all who might have any of that. A little while back, I read somewhere that Remington was cranking out 4 million rounds a day of .22LR. It's anybody's guess where it's going. I'm sure not seeing it appear anywhere around here. But I did a little bit of arithmetic. And if you divide that out among the 3,500 Walmarts that exist across America, the extreme majority in places that permit people to own 22LR, and you do a little bit of arithmetic, you find that that works out to a grand total of about two bulk packs a day. If they manage a steady stream or an average stream of two bulk packs a day at Wally World all across America, that could completely consume the entire production of Remington 22LR. So four million rounds a day may sound like an awful lot, but you know, two of those little milk cartons. Boxes per day is not a whole lot for Wally and that's just spit on the griddle. It just goes bye-bye. So I don't think that that situation is going to change anytime soon. All right, Powder Valley Ink. Not too many choices in powder right now. They do have the 4007SSC. They have eight pounds at 148. They've had that for quite a while. That is one of the newer powders on the market and I think the reason it's available is that it has not been adopted by any of the commercial manufacturers as a feedstock for their off-the-shelf ammunition. Whatever it is they use for the off-the-shelf stuff is probably completely spoken for. And it is not yet adopted by all of the old coots who have one powder and one powder only that they will use in their favorite recipe. It takes time for that to ripple through the system and therefore only the people that are newer to the system or a little bit more flexible or inclined to use something a little bit different from the old traditional standbys that is being only a few years old on the market is not one of the old traditional standbys. It is an entirely competent mid-range rifle powder and therefore if you need such for your .30 caliber fill-in-the-blanks, 4007 SSC is an available option at Powder Valley Inc. Their primers have changed a little bit. They do still have the Tula large rifle Magnum primers we have pointed out in the past that those primers will do for anything that calls for large rifle. You will have to work up your loads again. But there's an argument in favor of Magnum primers all the time anyway. They do have the small pistol primers also in Tula. Those have been unobtainium from most sources for a long time. So if you don't mind Tula, powder valley ink can fix you up in those. and they continue to have the two Berdan rifle primers, the 7.62 NATO and the X-39 primers both in Berdan. A few weeks ago, once again, appeared on their site with the Chetite Primers. Those are pretty much the traditional brand for shot shells, and those are available at $24 per thousand on their site. I'm not sure why I have this last page up, but it's not showing anything. So I guess that's the run through on the components. Do you have any comments at the moment? Anybody? Just a point on that. For folks that are interested in reloading that have been listening to BK Talking, we have had someone up on air in the past who has actually written a book called Reloading the Basics. and his name is Tim Seaworth. He has a website where you can get information on his excellent book, which I own, to learn about reloading and what you need to know in order to get into it. And I will give you his website, web address now. That's timseaworthllc.com. That's T-I-M-S-I-E-W-E-R-T-L-L-C.com. Timseaworth. LLC dot com and his book is reloading the basic Okay, very good now mine. My voice has become a little bit rough I've been yammering on for the last hour and a half So I'm gonna pose you a couple of questions if people calling in don't have any we'll give you actually have a question for our garden expert This is gardening. This is gardening, but it's a little different Do you know of a good resource that's out there on, I'm trying to think of the right term for it, cross crossing apple trees, you know, I'm trying to the right term, where you... hybridizing. Yeah, where you patch one branch onto the other and it grows... Oh, grafting. Yeah, grafting, there we go, that's it. Yes, you're thinking about multi-grafting. So North Carolina State University actually has some resources on cross-pollination, but if you're looking for grafting resources, you'll probably have to get a book called The Fruit Growers Bible. uh... you may also have to go into uh... some of the and p f u dot e d u website which talk about that because basically what you want to do with with crafting apple trees or any other kind of fruit tree if you need to craft a particular branch or into a uh... thirty root stock and each branch that you grab needs to be within a time succession so for example if uh... if they're going to cross pollinate with each other you want to make sure you choose a branch one one root stock that's going to cross pollinate around the same time as another branch so for example you know if you want to grow for example gala apple well you want to grow gala apple with red delicious because they will they will have the same general range of uh... of of timing for cross pollination. That way you'll get more fruit. So that's what I can tell you. So ncsu.edu is a good resource. The Fruit Growers Bible is excellent. You also want to look at anything that will give you a pretty good education on the different types of grafting, which will cover the different forms of rootstock. It's a very developed science and if you get your graft wrong you'll waste several years just waiting for nothing to actually happen. My grandfather on my mother's side grafts does tree grafting and I've got to find his phone number because I got to call him. I've got a little choke cherry tree that not choke cherry tree. I've got a little crab apple tree outside of the shop here. It This year it did monster production, but it's going too close to the building. I'm gonna have to take it down. Possible, I want to save it. We've got some apple trees over in the metro parks across the fence that I'm wondering if it would be possible to graft, you know, part of the crab apple tree onto the full-size apples. I don't know if that's possible. He may, or if I can find a resource, it would tell me if it is possible. We've also got the chokecherry trees in the back, which, uh... are still growing amazingly enough but both of them that are back there took major damage from the storm and I'm wondering if there's any way to graft the some other chokecherry trees limbs onto the trees that are still standing there that way they're producing more because they took a lot of damage in the tornado. The other thing is if I'm not sure if it's possible, it's probably not, but to graft an apple tree onto a cherry tree or vice versa. So, grafting apple into cherry, I haven't heard of that being successful. I know that it's been done, I haven't heard of it being productive. I've heard of the crabapple being the universal rootstock, sort of the universal, this is what we're going to graft everything onto and it'll take. I've not heard of people grafting crabapple onto existing apple trees and it actually assisting. What I would recommend in that situation, if it's too close to the building, instead of taking the whole tree down, which you might try, is actually lopping off, starting from the bottom of the of the crab apple tree, lopping off any branches that are near the building, no matter how big they are, and immediately sealing that up with some what they call tree soaks, which looks like a black tar. You could also get away with using several layers of black spray paint. Unfortunately, we knew it was a problem before and we just didn't pick move it because it was producing fruit. It's getting to the size, the roots are getting bigger and we're starting to see cracks on the foundation so it has to go. Okay, yeah I would definitely yank it out then. Maybe You could try to dig a large hole and just transplant the entire tree. I know that Cep Poulter in the Austrian Alps has been doing that with 8-10 year old fruit trees. What he's doing is he actually uses an excavator to chop out about I would say about two thirds of the entire root ball and he transplants them and they do well. So you might want to try that, but you're going to have to get down there probably a good two or three feet for that transplant to be successful. And as far as branches onto other apple trees, you probably have your best luck that's going to take with the Red Delicious. Okay. Thank you. That answered my question. Yeah, when you brought up this topic, the question crossed my mind. I understand the whole thing about grafting grapes because the California grape harvest was basically obliterated back in the 19th century when nematodes got loose. I suppose they must not have been native to North America or something like that. It must have been brought in from Europe. but pretty much obliterated the entire grape industry until they developed the technique of grafting and apparently there's a variety of grape that isn't much worth having but the root system is resistant to the nematodes and therefore everything is grafted onto the root system. I was wondering, is that the rationale for the grafting of these fruit trees? I've certainly seen ads in chasing newspaper inserts and so on. One tree and have 15,000 different varieties of fruit and so on, that seems more an novelty item to me. I'm wondering what's the rationale generally for that? Typically, it's saving the tree or extending the production of the tree. By taking branches from a producing tree and finding a new home for them or vice versa. Yeah, so you're doing like landscaping and for whatever reason you've got a fruit tree here in front of you It's too old to transplant, but you still want the fruit from it You understand what I'm saying BK. You can't transplant the tree, but you can cut the branch or some of the smaller branches off put the growth hormone on it and splice the branch into another branch on the other tree and still have that branch if the graph takes producing that type of fruit. Okay, and why is that better than the branch that it's displacing on the receiving... Because the branch that it's displacing doesn't produce as much of the other fruit. Typically you pick one that's fairly new. The idea behind doing this is Rather than having to wait for a seed from that tree that you're having to take down, grow and start producing, you're taking an active, relatively adult tree limb that's already capable of producing fruit and you're grafting it onto a tree that you're going to keep. But the tree that you're going to keep should be a recipient instead of a producer. Why? No, it usually is a produce- the tree itself produces, but you pick a younger branch from each tree because it's more common for the younger branches to go through the grafting process to survive it. Okay, alright. And really what you're doing, just to jump in, what you're doing with grafting younger branches from a productive tree that is starting to die off and grafting them into a hardy rootstock, you are trying to extend the life of those productive trees beyond the time point where they actually die off. I mean, there is a lifespan to all fruit trees. So those ones that are extremely productive, if they last for 20 or 30 or 40 years, we want to take the young branches from that put them onto a hardy rootstock so that way we're actually extending the production value in time of that original tree, even though that original tree is going to die off and lose production. So that's the thing. Okay, but you are replacing a branch on the trunk that's receiving a new branch. And the branch that you're preserving is somehow better than the branch that you're disposing of to make room for it? No, you're actually making a new cut on the rootstock. So you're actually creating a new branch? There are two ways you can graft. One of them is, and I've seen my grandpa do this before, you take a, you can splice like it looks like a fork cut in the branch and a fork cut on the tree, on a limb in the tree where you're going to put it and you put the graft onto it. Soaked in the growth hormone or whatever the material is that's used to get the other tree to accept it. And you wrap tape around it until it heals. The other one is you actually basically cut a new hole into the base of the tree trunk and you stick your grafted limb into the tree trunk and like Joe is saying there, you've pretty much created a brand new limb on the tree. So there's a couple of different ways of doing it. uh... which he described previously and then the the easiest one is the whip graft which is basically putting one branch uh... and grafting it to another go ahead okay so you've you've got a an apple tree that you like and you've got a frankenstein tree that you're going to do all sorts of horrible and unnatural things to it's got good roots in your gonna stick things onto it uh... the frankenstein tree is uh... getting a new new branch we understand the value of the branch that we're moving. But the Frankenstein tree, by getting a grafted branch, Well, there's a finite number of branches it can support if you're sticking one in there. Or are they going to have to remove one that exists or you are using the resources that would be used in the near future by one of its own. Where exactly is the benefit? Are you growing trees that are of a variety that has particularly robust roots but not very worthwhile fruit? For the most part yes or or like let me just jump in there for maximum production You are growing if you're going to go into the Frankenstein tree Sort of world well that's if you call you're calling it a Frankenstein tree But you're not doing anything genetically to this tree and once that limb is attached That limb is only going to produce what it was designed to do by God You're not going to get some weird crossbreed you know Crabapple, Granny Smith, or you know, whatever. It, that women in and of itself has the DNA of the Crabapple tree and that's it. It's just using the root system of the other tree to continue producing its fruit. Right, we understand that. But the recipient trunk, root ball, etc. is going to be able to support, let's say, 50 branches. And if you transplant three or four branches, that's three or four fewer branches of its own that it can support. So, The gain is variety. The producers are statistically better than what that tree would have produced on its own. Not in this case. I just want to save the fruit that's there because we don't have any other like it in the area. We have multiple apple trees that could be compatible with it just across the fence. That if it would be possible to save the crab apple, that way we still have it around. That's what I would like to do. I would say that your best option is to uproot the crabapple and transplant it, roots intact, to somewhere that is going to be sort of beneficial. It's not going to invade your foundation. Because that crabapple tree, even if you took all the branches off hypothetically, you know, that The root stock of that crab apple tree could keep you going for years and years. Most likely the cost effective way to do that is to hire somebody who owns a backhoe or an excavator to do it. I looked into that in this area, it costs about $200 a day or $700 a week to rent a mini excavator. But they're assuming an amateur operator, so they're probably factoring in a fair amount for maintenance to compensate for inexplore operations. With how close is it? If the machine and its owner and its operator, he's not going to be worried about abuse of the machine. He'd probably do in two hours what you would take in a day. With how close this is to the building, guys, getting the backhoe in there to get it up is going to be close to impossible. And I'm looking at cost-effective way. I know the growth hormones is not going to cost me that much to, you know, get the enzyme that's needed to do the graft as it would be to... Well, that should cost essentially nothing. If you've got a recipient, you know, if you've got a Frankenstein target someplace, then, you know, it sounds like go ahead and do it. Yeah, that's what I'm looking at cost effectiveness is it would be more cost effective for me to graft it onto a tree that we know The apple trees across the way I'd have to look up what kind they are, but if it's possible to graft it onto them They don't produce as much and the ones that they do are Usually you know nobody goes over there and picks them anyway, so it would not be missed the crab apples we like using for the applesauce or apple pie filling, you know, there's not a whole lot you can really do. It's not like you're going to be munching it as a whole apple because they're like really small crab apples, you know. So it's more like for doing apples, really fine applesauce or apple pie filling, that kind of stuff. Yeah, around here crab apples are mainly pedestrian hazard. Now as we've been talking I've heard a couple dings that Ed does that Generally give you an idea of where to shoot for as far as your questions are concerned Oh, yeah I just wanted to see what you would say because I'm still going to talk to my grandpa about it because he did that for a living Yeah, and let me tell you, as long as you can talk to folks that are local in that region, specifically dealing with those cultivars of trees, definitely go with what his recommendations are. I can just tell you what I've learned through my own experience, which obviously is not as much as somebody who's in their 90s. I've heard a couple dings. uh... we're almost the top of the area fifteen minutes left if anyone had any gardening or whatever sort of growing related questions go ahead and pound six uh... unmute yourself and i'll we'll all kinda do the best we can go right ahead indeed have anything that's uh... waiting to uh... to come out i'm not hearing anybody i'm not hearing anything either do we have anybody that is waiting in the wings on a non gardening related topic go ahead and start six and unmute yourself All right, well, I have one then. We are about in the middle of August. It is getting cooler here already, which is different from my recollection. I remember being tortured in the portable oven, I mean football pads, well into September as a high schooler. I would have considered it nirvana if it were this cool a month from now back then. So I'm a little bit disturbed about the cyclical nature of things. I wonder what the winter is going to be like. But it's clear that we're getting into a change of season. From your experience, what would people be planting now? And what do you recommend that people plant in the fall? I know that garlic is supposed to go into the ground in the fall, presumably to be harvested in the spring or mid-summer. Can you tell me any others that we should be planning or thinking about planning in the near future? absolutely i have a good question i mean guys which you want to think about is that uh... for most people in the cool to cold temper climate most places in the u.s. uh... we we think of like the fall slash winter as a reboot so it's a good time to plant things that have to plant crops that are relatively permanent like garlic uh... here's another crop you guys should think about planting you know asparagus any of the ones that, any crops that keep coming back year to year. Your herbs, herbs that are sort of, go ahead. Asparagus is a really nice one. As long as you cut it before it flowers all the way, it will keep coming back not just every year, but it'll come back the whole season. It'll keep reproducing. Yeah, with vigor. I mean, it's really hard to kill it once you get it established. So fall is also an excellent time, right about now even, in some places in the country. It's an excellent time to start thinking about planting what we were just talking about. Fruit trees, whether those trees are dwarf trees or semi-dwarf trees. or even standard size trees that get up to 30 feet tall. So those are the kinds of things we want to think about planting. Some other more traditional crops that we would think about now would be things like lettuce, radishes, spinach. It would be probably a good time right now to start putting spinach in, and you could seed that all through September. Some of your green beans you could probably plant right now, especially if they're your bush bean varieties. All of my beans vanished. I got one bean. The tomato plants are growing. I don't expect them to produce anything before the frost arrives, but they are at least growing. So at least I'm growing some green stuff and proving that the soil is OK. And the melons are making a brave effort. I know that they're doomed. They can't possibly develop enough biomass to produce melons before things get cold. But the big mystery at BK's rear garden The side garden is still a sink for labor. I'm just digging, spading the whole thing up and you know it's going slowly. I chip away at it until the knees decide that I've had it for the day. But the big mystery is that a whole bunch of bush beans down in the back one, they've just vanished. They've just disappeared. I don't think anything got in there and gobbled them all up or they would have wiped out other stuff but they're just gone. I don't know what happened. Maybe they didn't survive the transplant shock but they're gone by by a reason just think that this might be time to plan again direct feed them into the ground absolutely don't worry about transplanting at this point just put them right into the ground make sure that anything any plot a ground that you are uh... direct feeding now especially with being in peace is very well protected squirrels and bird because those let me tell you Not even counting the deer that are going to lop off the crops, squirrels and birds are going to absolutely kill anything you plant right now if those are plentiful animals in your area. a good air gun would defend against both of those if you got the time. Good air gun or a slingshot? You gotta spot them. You gotta know when to run outside. Well, make sure there aren't any yuppies watching the call in and rat you out. There is something you can do for that to prevent at least the birds. The squirrels will try to dig under it but if you can get yourself some screen, mesh screen, whether it's plastic screen or metal screen for like going over your windows if you can get it in the rolls that's even better you can take some simple small water PVC pipe or PVC pipe do a small arch over it and then run just an arch wide enough just for the width of your screen mesh roll the screen over top of everything and you've got a mesh cage that sunlight is going to get through it'll keep birds out your seeds will be able to grow and they won't none of the animals will be able to get to it unless it's something that grows underground. full sun environment which would be about six hours of sun in that plot of ground per day just keep in mind that windows screen or any kind of like tightly woven mesh screen even pet screen that'll probably uh... filter out uh... a good deal that'll be about a forty percent shade environment within there so i know for people like bk were sun is sort of a premium just be aware of that and i and i agree that is an awesome idea just for people in sort of very low sun or high shade environments you may want to go with more chicken wire if you can afford it or poultry netting. I was thinking something along the lines of you know half inch hex or you know three-quarter inch square or something like that you know hopefully small enough to keep chipmunks and stuff out but you know a little bit looser from a sunlight point of view. I just want to complete the former question, which was what other kind of crops could we plant now? Chard, carrots, you could probably get away with direct seeding pumpkins this week. Maybe some cucumbers, get your cabbage in. i hate them to say maybe potatoes you could probably get away with potatoes and pk if you're getting a lot of biomass out of different plant that you don't think will actually fruit remember that that biomass can be uphold before the frost chopped up and put into your compost pile and that'll actually serve as a as a nitrogen gain for your next season when you are good at start planting in the spring Yeah, I have to get back there and spade that darn compost pile. That's going to use a little bit of the available knee power that I've been using on digging up the side garden. Absolutely. One thing I use, there's two tools that I use with composting stuff that's kind of ground level. i have a long handled what they call a patent hell or a great hell uh... and that's your typical thing i guess if you seem like those guys in the you know the vietnam movies you know with those little sort of hose that they have with the flat blade at the end of a long that's called a peasant or a great hell and those are pretty good if you have problems with your back or your knees if you can get like a seventy two or eighty four inch would handle with that uh... hell you know it'll go easier for you the other thing is uh... three or four-time pitchfork uh... that will help you to move large amounts of biomass without having to bend over please stand by actually get a continuous trunk of spaded up please stand by if you're getting through some like really hard pan or some rich you're going to need like a pic or a matic acts or something to get in there just just it just be good knock it out Fortunately, once you get a patch of ground rehab, especially if you're in the Midwest or areas with like that heavy clay hard pan, fortunately once you get that area rehab, it's only a one-time thing, but gosh, it is definitely a lot of work that you're putting in. Make sure that if you guys are out there listening now and you're like, okay, I wanna use fall to get my plot of land ready to go for the spring, I wanna get it going, make sure you survey that area for light. Make sure there's going to be enough sun and light getting in that area before you do the hard work. I don't want you guys to be disappointed come spring and you're like, why isn't anything growing? So just kind of keep that in mind. But yeah, sometimes you've got to declare war on the clay in order just to get some things to grow. Well, you can tell which of us planned poorly because we're the ones in the middle of summer frantically climbing around on the side of the house gluing mirrors onto the side to try to make up the difference. Exactly. Yeah, aluminum foil and mirrors and quite a bit of sweat, you know, are indicators that, you know, we're doing the best we can to squeeze every little bit out of the piece of earth that we've got in front of us. Wait a minute. You're putting aluminum foil around the house to reflect the sunlight? I do that because of the radio waves. My tin foil hat. Well, I don't do anything unless there's multiple benefits in one action. So, hey, you know, If it deflects the NSA's surveillance net and gets me a little extra sunlight, I'm ready to go. Why are you guilty? I heard that mirroring scares away the reptiloids because they can't stand to see themselves. Well, it scares the hell out of the birds, too. Those mirrors or old compact discs, you know, you put them around your seedlings or plants. Birds see that as fire. You know, they have actual copper flash tape or foil. their visual process as a flame when it flickers and the sunlight hits it. Any kind of mirrors or things of that nature that are shiny or flashy, birds are like, that's fire, we're not gonna go near it. As a matter of fact, I can't blame the bird for being fooled. If I had a brain the size of a pea, I'd be fooled by lots of things also. I heard somebody else in there. Go ahead. So, yeah, I think all the difference is squash. Whoever knows how to leave sometimes look like they're wilted. saturation and they really thrive more of a little bit of shade. I can attest to that. Every plant is different. My mom always plants her squash plants under the choke cherry tree. Unfortunately the choke cherry tree that she usually plants them under, that's the one that we were talking about and had the damage. So there's not as much shade there is normal and the one that's directly in the shade that squash plants gone crazy and the others look like they're a little stunted. Yeah and uh... i think the car i'm sorry which do you go by any particular reference named uh... what do we call your color uh... westman Okay, so Squash Man, you know, Squash Man brings up an awesome point, which is that, like, you've got to observe the plants that you're trying to grow. You know, Squash have very large green leaves that we don't eat. What do those leaves do? What do those plants do? The function of those leaves is to shade the fruit or the squash that you're trying to eat. So those kinds of plants at squash man mentioned they can be grown in more higher shade areas so if you're far as gardening you want to think about squash pumpkins zucchini lettuce even if you go into your weeds like pokeweed or lambs quarters those kind of large green leafy things they can do very well in high shade environments especially if you're planting a survival garden So I appreciate that, that's a good point. We shall prove it victory They are on the march and I know we are on the march and they are on the right boy. I slipped up this time. Yes, you did, but okay. We'll accept it. We'll forgive you. Ah Boy guys We're taking off the intelligence report will be back on Monday Again mark is out of town. He's down with his mother is in the hospital so Somebody will be filling in whether it be me or one of the other guys That all depends on who shows up to do the show do we have any idea how she's doing? I Really, I haven't heard anything. I was actually hoping he would call into this hour and give us an update But, uh, yeah, we're still waiting to hear back from Dad and Aunt Carol who went down. So, no, I haven't got- I don't have anything new on her right now. Alright guys, we're outta here! Uh, coming up next is music. Remember, uh, Saturday we've got our... Two programs Liberty Bible Hour and Braveheart radio you guys can tune in tomorrow and check those out Till then no this is the end this is the end of the intelligence report for the week till Monday