It doesn't matter where you're coming from or where you're going here at home or around the world. Take your favorite Live 365 music with you on your Windows Mobile, Blackberry or iPhone. It's the music you love on the go. Download your app today at Live365.com slash smartphone. Live 365. mainmilitary.com is the only story you'll ever need all from the comfort of your computer. Visit them online today at mainmilitary.com. That's main like the state military.com or call them at 1-877-608-0179. That's 1-877-608-0179. I had a dream the other night that well I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat and speaking low to me he said, We've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations this legacy we gave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state You read about the current news in a regulated press and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold you trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame You've taken Satan's number and you've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the mist from whence he came. His words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each God given right we only watch in tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave is this still the land of the free? Good evening ladies and gentlemen, this is the evening intelligence report. I'm Mark Kornke. And a butter knife. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines in occupied territories, central, west, southeast, and east. Well ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to us on... libertytreeradio.4mg.com, pbn.4mg.com, and we are on live 365, then go to Liberty Tree Radio. We're also on AM and FM microstations, CB Bay stations, and Ultra. net technologies both east and west of the Mississippi along with Alaska. We're on the Hallmark Network, top of Maine, bottom of Florida, across to the Ark of the Gulf of Mexico to Louisiana, then over to Nebraska, up I should say, because it's north, and then waving to all of our friends across the Rockies and to the west, we turn to the east, sweep across the plains, leap over the Mississippi, the old big muddy, and then land in the Smokies where the restaurant crew is a gram of teams, the OK teams, and The Maville Grammar Consortium of retired telecommunications workers up there in Cleveland are doing their part to get the job done. And that means the Golden Spike and others are helping to build a replacement for the internet, progressively piece by piece and element by element. But it's going to be ours, people. If we use the bad guys system, they're monitoring all of that and they plan on shutting it down. They've already demonstrated it at time. and time and time and time again with each ratchet a little higher up the notch as they say anyway I'll tell you what we are looking at a beautiful day overall for fall classic fall weather here in Michigan BK what's it like in your neck of the woods her and what is the date today It is 21 October 2011. It is Friday evening. It is the last hour of the day and the week and that makes this a chilly quarter masters corner. It is nippy out here now. They're promising us a few days of warm starting tomorrow and all of the World Series fans are going, hey, I don't care. I couldn't care a lot about the World Series being in town except of course the downtown traffic is even worse. So, you know, once a week or once every couple of weeks I might go down there and have to wade through all of the little micro cars that people consider normal nowadays. But aside from that, yuck. But it is cold and... You know, I'm watching my engine needle jump around and realizing, oh, I'm a little low on coolant. And so I need to do all these winter maintenance things just before it really gets nasty. But it'll be a little while before we're freezing. It's too soon for me. I don't like it. Well again, one thing you remember, you guys are the ones that get your town bird down. You're having the world, let's see, the World Series. It's two towns, so I haven't paid attention. Who's the other town? I think the other town is Texas, if I recall correctly. So we can keep the fires and the birding in the mid-plain states. Yeah, there is any maybe it'll be too chilly and every all the hooligans will just rush off to a bar and warm up Yeah, you don't want to put money on that do you? No, okay Well anyway well you know what that means again like you said stay off the road stay away from the downtown and then into the stadium areas obviously It is quartermaster Friday. That means bullets beans bongos and bad men rockets all the way through to backpacks and Bed warmers you name it whatever it is we need quarter masters job is to find it acquire it then route it to where it needs to go and that can be anything from local preparedness all the way up to unit coordination between many different elements where somebody might have a whole lot of goodies in one pile somebody has the other goodies somebody needs in another pile you barter trade and exchange it's how it works so our job is to try and build up the logistical supply net so that when the time comes we are not as inconvenienced as everybody else What have you got for us tonight, sir? And anybody that sees that appeared, by all means feel free to call in or write us or what have you and tell us whether they're just shining us on or not. But certainly not in my area yet. The little news of the day in the corporate press is that they discovered, surprise, surprise, a half a trillion dollars was lent to another company, not just the one that made solar panels and somehow managed to fall on its face. But in fact, there is a second energy company or green company. It's a startup called Fisker. and its mission is to build electric cars in Finland. maybe they're supposed to build electric cars for the US market and they just decided to make them in Finland. But there's another half trillion dollars and somehow the press is pretending to not connect the dots between these things. But to paraphrase the ancient and venerable Senator Halfbright, as my grandma used to call him, Senator Fulbright, He said a million here, a million there. Pretty soon you're talking real money. Well, half a trillion here and half a trillion there. Pretty soon the vampires have piled up a little bit of debt for you. What do you think? I think that enough half a trillion, yeah, it adds up to a considerable amount of debt. Thank you very much. But keeping it up and piling it up and digging us deeper and deeper into the hole is part of the program, isn't it? So we shouldn't be surprised at any of these things. I'm sure that there are a dozen more similar operations, not necessarily to manufacture something because manufacturing things is really not the whole point of this, but getting rid of a half trillion here and a trillion there. is the point of this. The idea is to blow up the currency and thereby blow up America. And they are working very, very hard on that. And we are getting the news one weenie little drib and drab at a time. I'm sure they've got it all scheduled out to say, you know, well, as X many months until the election, we can stretch this out. Every X number of days will come out with a new revelation and we will... complete the sequence of revelations X many weeks before the election. But I don't know what that schedule is. I'm kind of sitting watching it and rolling my eyes on comments. Well, again, as you and I both know, let's assume the worst and we won't be disappointed, right? There's always that, and I've often taken that approach to things. I'm gonna say pessimists are never disappointed and sometimes they are pleasantly surprised. That's right, they made up with the good stuff. Yeah, allow yourself to be pleasantly surprised and say, oh good, there are some pessimists who get all grumpy when things don't go right, but you know, no, I'll take it, you know, something works out okay, great, hey, wonderful. Okay, and then get pessimistic about the next thing. That way you can't be negatively surprised. At any rate, the other interesting little bit of news that has come out is that Lindsay Williams is once again talking to us. I've caught his interviews in a few different places and as usual that the message is the same at each location. He kind of does the tour and gives more or less the same spiel with the same timing and sequence and content and so on. But this is a good one. He says, well, he's gotten earful from his remaining living informant and he was so shocked and amazed and appalled that he went silent for four months. Well, Lindsay, you know, if it's really that shocking and amazing and appalling, we need to know it. So don't go silent for four months, but oh well he did it. And now he's talking about it. And so here are his big deals. He says that the medals are being held down in price. We all knew that. But he's saying that it will continue to be for a while because what's going on is that the medium and high level minions Of the vampires are being handed this as a doggy treat. This is their buying opportunity and they are buying with both fists. This is the reason why Silver may be shuttle cocking back and forth between 30 and 32 dollars an ounce But if you go looking for it, you're gonna be very hard-pressed to find very much He tells the story of some metals dealer with whom he is socially acquainted showing up with his family at some events and the vehicle they were driving is a van that is extraordinarily heavy-duty beefed up and so on and Lindsay comments on that and the guy says yowie I had to have it made for me. I use it for hauling around the literal tons of metals for delivery, physical delivery to these guys. So if you buy a vehicle specially equipped for trips, that means you expect to make a lot of trips. It's not 10 deliveries. So you just rent a van or hire an armored truck or something. So these mid-level and high-level minions are certainly scraping at the table with both fists and stuffing their faces as fast as they can. Their bet is that the medals are the way to go. And so I'm inclined to believe that their masters have told them that. Here we've finished dining. You can have all of the scraps in there. flinging themselves at the master's table and stuffing all the available scraps into their face as fast as they can or fear that the castle will burn down in the next two minutes and they haven't gotten everything. So that is part of what he's saying. The other thing he says is kind of interesting. He says that the plan is to propagate as much debt as physically possible throughout the economy, throughout the private sector and so on. That includes credit card debt, mortgage debt, you name it. Then to basically call that debt, that is, for instance, he says that by the end of 2012, the dollar is going to be dead, but the tax system will not. You'll still be subject to that and have to pay them. you will have available dollars and they will be essentially worthless. If you can't pay your property tax, the banks will be given the opportunity to buy your property out from under you for pennings. and of course the vampires control the banks, the Federal Reserve and so on. So as they crash the value of the dollar, people are left with a worthless currency, but nonetheless the local and state governments, you know, snap their fingers, point their finger at you and say, phoning up whatever property taxes we deem suitable. people will be unable to do it and they will lose their property in droves and that that's a plan. The idea is to consolidate the ownership of all of the property and then turn around and make us a deal. Say, okay, you know, you can you can rent your house back from us and turn America into a country of serfs who are all paying rent at the suffrage. of the landlords. And of course you'll notice that tenants really don't have all the rights that are affirmed under the Constitution and certainly tenants of the federal government or anybody touched by the federal government do not have for instance their First Amendment rights or their Second Amendment rights or their their Fourth Amendment rights or what have you. You know they can kick in the doors or anything they want sees any firearms on and so forth because it's right there in the rental agreement. they said it so. So that is certainly an unpleasant prospect according to Lindsey your only counter tactic is to have sufficient metals that when the dollar goes kapooey then whatever toilet paper they're using in its place you can purchase with metals and thereby pay them. property tax. I don't think that's your only option. There's always the threshold of demands beyond which it is not, in my opinion, appropriate to accommodate them, but rather to greet them in some other fashion. But, oh, Lindsay would never say that and probably would never think that. There is something else that I'd like to point out though, and this is something that Lindsay did not say, but is in my opinion the elephant in the room. Back in the early 80s, you'll recall that interest rates just really spiked in the late 70s and then started coming down in the early 80s, right? actually remember but in the process as we've seen before they were giving out any loans the interest rates continue to drop but there was no uh... you know expansion with regard to the the amount of number of loans are being issued out to you to go to you had to shop around try find somebody you can actually access area but uh... you know there was there coming down from insane levels for your i've had sixteen percent and started coming back down well bonds They're an inverse price ratio to interest rates. That is, when interest rates are up, the value of a bond is down. And when interest rates fall, the value of a bond goes up. So in the early 80s, when interest rates were slowly coming down, there was a lot of interest among the investors and the greedy uppies and all of those crowds in bonds because the bonds were appreciating and becoming more valuable. And I, being a dumb engineer, was fond of running around pointing out to people, well, you know, those bonds can be called. They are sort of a one-way instrument. You lend them your money and if they decide that they gambled in the wrong direction, they can call that bond. And everybody kind of looked at me like I was crazy and poo-pooed that and said, oh, they'd never do that and so on and so forth. And pretty soon they started calling the bonds. Basically the finance guys that sell a bond are gambling on interest rates going in a particular direction. If they go the opposite direction and the finance guys say, oh we goofed, we didn't you know make out as well as we want to, well we'll just you know whistle up some paperwork, send it out and call the bond and cancel the bet. So it's one of those heads I win tails we try again type deals. and they started calling bonds and all the up-east were all known to you, well, you know, how can they do this? That's not fair, it hasn't happened in the past. Well, yeah, interest rates hadn't changed wildly in the past. You know, they'd floated along at a few percent and drifted up and down a little bit. It wasn't worth their trouble to go ahead and call a bonds, but as soon as there's a big change, they did. So when it's in their interest, they did so. Well, there's another one-way contract that's in common use and people don't think about this. Every mortgage in America can be called a gentleman, okay? Unless you have paid off your property or it's a contract for deed or a land contract or some sort of private deal with an actual, you know, regular breathing human person. If you've got a regular contract mortgage with a banker or whomever, there's stuff in the fine print that says they can call that mortgage anytime they please. Now in the past they haven't pleased to do so, it has pleased them to collect interest from you for 20 or 30 or 40 years. But if we go into an extreme inflation or a hyperinflation, Mortgage companies aren't dumb. They're gonna say, hey, you know, in six months this money isn't gonna be worth anything. It does not please us to adhere to the terms of the contract anymore. It pleases us to snap our fingers, point at your property and say, mine. And the paperwork lets them do that. So you don't have to be caught with a pot plant in the backyard. or fail to make payments or fail to pay the property tax or what have you. The private parties that own your mortgage can simply say it pleases us to call the mortgage and give you 30 days to pay us off in the fashion to which we feel entitled. And that may not be what's actually down in black and white. They write the laws in the Congress rubber stamps and the Congress may rubber stamp a law saying well they get to put a new evaluation on the mortgage and currency of their choice or they get to define it in terms of amount of gold or you know they get to do whatever they want. You know the banks always do get to do whatever they want. So do not count on paper inflation paying off your mortgage it might. But it might not. It is at their whim that they decide whether they want to call it or not. And how many of you under current circumstances can just write a check and pay off your mortgage? I'd say very, very few. We aren't in hyperinflation at this point. We're just in a really miserable economic situation. So there's more than a couple of threats out there. And according of course of course to Lindsay your only option is to either be wealthy and pay them or You know lose your property losing your property is an option You can always bow your head bend the knee in a gravel flop on your belly Give them whatever you want or there's always a third option you can decide to develop some spine and Discuss the matter with them in a forceful fashion So you just have to think about that and decide what you want to do, but it takes a certain amount of preparation and a certain amount of mental awareness and willingness to consider these things. So we encourage you to do that because these are the things that are coming down the pipe and most likely will actually manifest and that's sort of what we're doing on this hour and these hours throughout the week. Trying to get you to think about these things. figure out what you're going to do get used to the the taste of that thought of that prospect of that possibility because We don't want you to be caught by surprise Comments well, especially like I said Unfortunately the biggest problem a lot of the individuals out there as commentators is its people resist you'll be absorbed They're gonna do this or they're gonna do this. Well, how about we step outside of that box? Let's say we hunt them down and make sure they don't do this again Oh, you can't do that. Well, why not? Sounds like fun to me. Well, it's outside the rules they wrote. Yeah, exactly. Well, you can only operate within there. I don't think so. Sounds like it's a lose-lose. I say we make it a win-win. What do you say? Yeah. You know, ultimately, I've been, and I've thought about this recently, and it's kind of occurred to me that I'm astonished to buy it, but these guys are not so tough. Okay, I have yet to see a Rothschild or a Rockefeller or one of these guys puff himself up burst the buttons on his shirt and Puree somebody with their bare hands and obtain goodies in that fashion They do their nasty filed deeds by scribbling words on a piece of paper and getting other people to do their dirty work for them and ultimately they rely on all of us, both their targets and their thugs, to do their bidding and benefit them and hand them the benefits of all the dirty deeds based on our willingness to follow their rules. And why do we follow their rules? Well, because we do. Well, why do we do that? Because we have in the past and therefore we... must do it now. Why must we do it now? Well, because we always have. And the arguments become very, very circular. Simple fact of the matter is that we have all been conditioned by each other, by our parents, our teachers, our neighbors, you know, bosses, etc. To follow a set of rules and a set of rules are the ones that the vampires are using to get us to please cut our throats for them. to water their petunias with our carotid spray. So it's certainly very clever of them to do this, but at some point we may decide that the necessity for us to follow their rules is less than the necessity for us to say see that the next generation survives to see daylight. see that maybe the concept of liberty survives in history beyond our own lifetimes and things of this sort. So, maybe following their rules is not the highest directive that we might possibly respond to. The most important here again is remember the bad guys are counting on us somehow We're going to be stupefied or in brain fog over. Oh, they're just so on spiring I mean, how could we possibly wait a minute? How are they on spire? There's there's only two avenues with regard to their activities with everything we've seen. They're either incredibly stupid or They're incredibly wicked now either way. Why are you going to be following them? Well, by and large, the real hardcore central vampires tend to fall in the pretty bright and very, very wicked inquiry. Yeah, exactly. And some of their thugs are a little on the stupid side. I think that they are somehow accomplishing a wonderful thing by, you know, stomping on your puppy. And those guys, well, you know, you can't cure stupid, you can just kind of cancel stupid. There are ways to do that too. But, you know, we're not going to advocate those on the radio, but you can put on your thinking caps. I'll tell you what, with that in mind, we've got a lot more to cover. Jump in there, and we're at the bottom of the hour already. So what else have we got? And again, real quick reminder too, I brought this up before I forget again. Oh, come on. MRE Depot has a couple of sales, but I haven't looked to see if there was a code or anything for that, but jump in there, please. Okay. I'm not sure. MRE Depot has been running specials and sales recently at a rather high rate. So I'm not on top of whatever it is that they've done this week. Honeyville Grain is doing their traditional sale again, 10% off anything in the website. and that runs Thursday the 20th through Tuesday the 25th. That is 10% off and the coupon code for them is spooky in honor of Halloween I suppose. Capital letters S-P-O-O-K-Y. That is honeyvillegrain.com. And remember, these are the guys that have a lot of dried foods, a lot of freeze dried foods, quite a number of miscellaneous storage suitable items. The one that I like to call out routinely on their site is powdered egg because they seem to be the place to go for powdered egg. and they have traditionally offered the bulk powdered egg at 50 pounds for it has in the past been $200, about 230 something, no, 230, 238, something along those lines now. So these things are going up, but they haven't spiraled completely out of sight. Apply that coupon code and you get 10% off. and as usual their shipping charge is about four and a half dollars for your entire order which is a very desirable way of handling that. It covers the tiny little order so if somebody wants to order one can of something, they can, but they're going to actually cover the real physical shipping cost. And if you order a substantial amount of material, you are not getting eaten alive by UPS. So that is honeyvillegrain.com. Their sale is running Thursday the 20th through Tuesday the 25th. It is 10% off on everything and the coupon code is spooky. That's P-O-O-K-Y. And again, go ahead and give that out a couple of times for the code so everybody knows what to do there. Alright, alright. That is honeyvilgrain.com. and this is a coupon code so when you enter your order you get to the end it has a little field saying do you have a coupon code? You type in spooky S-P-O-O-K-Y and that is your coupon code to get 10% off your entire order through Thursday the 20th or Tuesday the 25th so honeyvillegrain.com coupon code spooky sale ends the 25th. And again, when we're looking at food storage, we do have a system for following up and keeping track of that, don't we? Oh yeah, well, you know, old BK has written a spreadsheet and as regular listeners are aware, there may be some new ones this evening. I have written a spreadsheet which is available for the astonishing sum of $0.00 and 0 cents. It is written in open office, so you can... download and install OpenOffice also for $0.00 and 0 cents on your PC, Mac, Linux, Box, or what have you. Grab a copy of this spreadsheet and use that to add up and track your food storage. The main point of this spreadsheet is that it adds things up in the form of man days, man months, man years of proteins, carbs, and fats. and it has a fair number of things entered into it already. It has, it may or may not cover every material that you have in your pantry or your closet, but it contains information in the spreadsheet about where you can email me that data for inclusion in the spreadsheet. It also has, as of version 3.0, a very, very comprehensive help system. to allow you to operate the thing to add new food values, etc. That is traditionally implemented in a chm file like any other help file and that's the way that's handled. You can get this either by direct download, you can get it from the intelligence report dot co dot cc, the intel report archive kindly maintained by spike. I believe that you can get it from a buckshot site that is snare dash trap dash survive dot com. and you can get it from Torrance. You can find it, for instance, if you search butter knife on btjunkie.org, that's bravo, tango, junkie.org, and there may be other cross indexing sites that have seen it by now. You just type in butter knife and you will find that Torrance. But any of those three methods will get you a copy of the spreadsheet. It is 150 megabytes. Almost all of that is the help file. in subsequent releases unless we make a major change in the help file we will make tiny little release changes that alter the spreadsheet itself and not the help file so you will find that there's version 3.0 that's 150 megabytes and then maybe there will be a version 3.01 which is 100 K bytes so if that's the case grab them both use the big help file from the version 3.0 and the updated spreadsheet from 3.01. 3.01 is not out yet, so 3.00 is the current version. Grab that guy from theintelligencereport.co.cc or snare-trap-survive.com or from a torrent of your choice if you can locate that torrent. Okay, let's see what else do we have here. Oh, yes. A while back... I did a little speech on continuous inking systems and ways that you can maintain the ability to generate printed pages. The intention of this is that newspapers, flyers, this sort of thing are one of the very traditional methods of mass communication. and more accessible to us than our television, digital radio, that sort of thing. So at some point we may wish to fire up the printing presses as it were. And one of the ways to do that with modern technology on a small scale is with the computer printer, the PC printer. And so I discussed the concept of the continuous inking system. that is basically a little plastic gadget which contains some containers of ink, some bottles of ink and some very flexible tubing and you plug this into a printer and then the inkjet printer does not keep running out of ink and sucking cartridges dry and the cartridges sucking your wallet dry. Instead it pulls ink continuously out of those bottles and you just refill those bottles from bulk ink which is available much more cheaply. So I was thinking about doing an update on that topic and I did a little bit of the research for that. I'm not going to go all through it end to end discussing the laser printers and all of that kind of stuff. But instead what I did was a little research project. I went shopping around on the net, found a bunch of places that saw continuous inking systems. and wrote them an email and I said most of the contacts you get from people are along the lines of I have printer X so you have a continuous thinking system for me. Well this one's going to be different. I wrote. I said, suppose I were to purchase a continuous inking system and then go out and get a printer to match. Which one do you recommend? What's most trouble-free and straightforward? I don't need photo printing, but I do need color. Okay. What's a simple, straightforward, popular, easy to use, etc. What do you recommend right now? And four of them wrote me back. Three of them recommended one particular printer and the fourth one recommended four different printers, one of which was the same as the other three. So it looks like there's a very clear winner out there right now. Now this may be influenced in part by their margins and sales and so on, but certainly the opinion seems to be nearly unanimous. They like the Epson artisan 50 printer and Clearly there are continuous inking systems aplenty out there available for it many vendors and probably more than one model of continuous inking system One of them also points out that if you don't particularly care for a continuous inking system They offer cartridges with little fill ports and the resettable chips so that you can simply pull a cartridge out and fill it like filling a tank with fluid and then pop it right back into the printer. So you do not have to go through all the rigmarole of the syringes and trying to saturate a sponge and trying to get the thing to flow and all that kind of good stuff. If you wish you can use a continuous inking system, but if you prefer instead there are cartridges designed to work with this thing and which are also designed for refilling you simply you know unscrew a little cap and pour the ink in and away you go. So that is a compromise between fooling around with little flexible tubes of a continuous inking system and still getting most of the benefits of that arrangement. So that is the Epson Artisan 50. If you want at some point to keep an eye out for sales anybody who's thinking about putting himself in a position to do mass printing and sustainable printing for quite a while. Might want to consider a continuous thinking system or these refillable cartridges. That seems to be the printer of choice right now for these guys. Comments? No, go ahead. We only have so much time to jump in there. All right. The last major thing that I wanted to point out here I'm going to dump it on you if I run out too quickly. There are a couple of very interesting technologies available that people have come up with. One of them we have mentioned in the past is called the multi-machine. basically this guy says, alright a lot of people can't afford lathe, mill, all of this kind of good stuff, what can we do instead? Now many of these guys have the, in my opinion, slightly condescending point of view that well they're going to come up with solutions for the third world. Well I'd kind of like to come up with some solutions for us too. But that aside, his reasoning is sound. He says that in any town you want to name, there is a machine shop called an engine rebuilding shop. And it is good at one specific task, and that is taking a piece of an engine block. Sometimes they come in sections and sometimes they are entire. and boring out the cylinders, making the cylinder walls straight and true and perpendicular to the face. And they have specialized machines for that purpose and that one thing they do very, very well, which means that almost anywhere on the planet you want to take an engine block, you can get that operation performed. Starting with that assembly. block with large diameter holes board in it at a perfect 90 degree angle to a flat surface. You can then proceed to build all kinds of stuff. you can slide large diameter pipes into those cylinder holes and you've got a pair of very large rigid steel pipes held exactly parallel to each other. You put a second such engine block on the far side and you have a pair of parallel rails. You can mount a spinning tool on one. of those or both of them you can mount work on one or the other you can mount chucks you can do all kinds of different combinations of things but you have got a very cheap very solid and very precise assembly there you can use that as the basis for all sorts of rather strange and interesting looking machinery but you can machine tools in that fashion. There is a website that demonstrates this and shows photographs of it is called open source machine org that is open source machine org and it shows photographs of the multi-machine and has instructions on how to build one and so on and so forth. So that is certainly a very clever notion the fellow had. I agree with his reasoning. I think that that is a very inexpensive and effective method of getting hold of a chunk of steel that is machined in that fashion and gives you the starting point to build all sorts of interesting machine tilts. Now if you have the luxury of having a traditional vertical mill, a traditional lathe, a traditional Shaper and so on and that's definitely the way to go those things were purpose-built and designed for their intended use and They do those things very well And there's lots of material and training available for how to use those you can buy tooling etc But this multi machine is a very clever implementation of this fellow's reasoning and you can read all about it and see photographs and download PDFs on how to build one freely that is available at opensourcemachine.org. Open source. machine.org. So anybody that is mechanically inclined in that direction maybe has more time than money for instance that's what these things are designed for anytime they say third world they mean you have more time than money. Well you know there's and direction in which one can travel. Now related to this there is an entirely different technology available. Remember how I mentioned well you know if you've got the luxury of a traditional lathe and so forth you can take advantage of the training, the techniques, the tooling, etc. Well, there was a time in America when there was a demand for, for instance, lays and so on, far in excess of the ability of the system to produce them. And that was when America was dumped into World War I. Suddenly, there was a desperate need for vast numbers of very specialized, special purpose lays because, you know, people may not realize it. But all of those artillery shells and so on are individually machined. They aren't swaged, they aren't stamped out, they aren't die cast or something. Those were machined from actual billets of steel. And that was a tremendous expenditure of resources. the normal way of doing that is to use these enormous lathes and a lathe is a very precise machine tool. It's very large, expensive. There's some horrendous castings involved in laying out the frame and so forth. It's not something you can just snap your fingers and have, you know, 10,000 lathes just appear out of thin air. There's a lot of lead time and America was just dumped into World War I for vampire reasons of their own. I'm going to have to go into that issue right now. But very suddenly and had to tool up very, very suddenly. And there's a fellow named Yeoman who came up with a notion regarding how to do that. And what he came up with is something called the concrete lathe, or perhaps people called it the yeoman lathe or what have you. His notion was, okay, we can get bearing races and things like this off the shelf. That doesn't take so long. The hard part is the big casting. Well... The lays that they had in mind are not intended to be mobile. The casting is just required to be rigid. His reasoning was why do we need that to be made out of cast iron? We don't need to move this around. So what he did was he built massive forms that were more or less in the shape of an actual traditional lathe. but made them out of wood and then he poured them full of concrete with spacers and molds and so on to create voids in there. And then when it came time to insert bearing assemblies and races and sleeves and so on, he did that and then they poured in Babbitt metal to secure those parts in place in firm orientation. so they created these monstrous huge lays poured out of concrete and only the actual moving parts that had to be made out of steel were made out of steel and those are a tiny fraction of the mass of the thing but the bulk of the device was actually made from concrete not only very quickly but also at a tiny fraction of the cost of iron castings. And you can take a look at that, you can see photographs of it, you can read all about it at the following URL, that is concrete lathe dot wiki spaces dot com. So that is concrete lathe, spelled in the normal fashion, dot wiki, W-I-K-I, spaces.com. One more time, that is concretelaid.wikiSpaces.com. And there are photographs of these things, there are write-ups of how to build one. Now, the plans that they propose suggest that you use black iron pipe for the ways of the lathe. So you know you will have two iron pipes that are parallel to each other and everything slides back and forth and they have different approaches to what you use to ride on those two ways. This is not the most precise tool anybody ever built. and it is not designed to work for 100,000 hours without losing tolerance. When you have either angle iron or half cut iron pipe sliding on other iron pipe, you're going to expect some wear, you're going to expect some tolerances to enter into it and so on. But consider if you built a lathe or any tool for that matter, you can rebuild it. So, some of the parts where you break it apart, you say, okay, we're going to turn these pipes over and we're going to start wearing the other side. We're going to cast them into new housing. or we will replace these parts or we will designate that one to be used for turning brakes because the tolerance required is less than what we would require for rifling barrels or performing some other service. So you know you can be creative, you can be pragmatic in these things, but the design proposed here demonstrated this has actually been done in the past with success. will give you a machine that is capable of all of these operations. Obviously you can build very very large ones because that's what they did in World War I. They're building machines sufficient to turn entire artillery shells and those got pretty big to think about those naval rifles. Well not only that, one of the things you remember is, the one advantage of this, the trails, any of the components that are going to wear were made out of readily available material so that once they saw a tolerant slip it wouldn't be a big deal. I guarantee that they had those components as you can see by the design so that they could drop a pin, extract the rails, of course they'd have to carry the anything that would ride on the trails at all would be lifted of course temporarily. They replaced the iron, in fact they probably even had pre-cut pipe in place on standby in sets. That would make sense and remember all it's doing is one cut one kind of cut It's never going to be changed out from doing that 105 or that 155 or that 10 inch gun or that 12 inch gun or that 14 inch gun, so it just repeats repeats repeats repeats and that and in that respect it wouldn't have to be as sophisticated as some of what they're showing here Yeah, what they do for turning artillery shells probably does not use a way in the traditional sense at all. What we would do implementing this technology, we would probably go ahead and use the iron pipe designed to produce ways so that we can have a carriage slide back and forth that's a bit more versatile. As you say, you mix and match these technologies and what wears out you can replace. If all it takes for a whey is a pair of iron pipes that are lined up and then you secure them with babbitt metal, then you take a torch to it and melt out the babbitt metal and remove those pipes. turn them over to the part that isn't worn and put them back in again or replace them as the case may be or designate that machine for looser tolerance operations or whichever you want to do. Most important is what we're talking about here is being able to produce any techno because well again that's something I mentioned the other day the Russians lost most of their artillery in the first two to three months of the Russian-German campaign, well the German-Russian campaign, Operation Barbarossa. The losses were so significant that the Russians felt they could not replace their artillery. And so they immediately turned to mortar tubes. And mortars became the dominant stopgap for most of the Russian army. We're talking mortar, we're talking all the way up to 210, 240, 260, 280 millimeter mortar breach loaded. A system like this, or at least one that was committed to a straight tube cut, with the only thing they had taken into consideration was whether or not the gun tube was rifled, in some cases it was, in many cases it was not. They looked at an area type weapon in a battery of tens if not hundreds of tubes, and literally the job of the artillery mortar battalion was to saturate square miles with a barrage. So right the battalion level artillery units can get that big the little guys are man-carried and the value of that is not that you can throw tons onto a target. If one guy is carrying three or four mortar shells and the other guy is carrying the mortar, that's two guys and they've got four shots. But the value of that is they can infiltrate an area and they're like fleas in the carpet. They're just harder in heck to dig out or even spot. And they have a few teeth. So a lot of these guys with four shots each. you know sprinkled around through an area you know be able to filter through the bushes don't even need an interstate to move from place to place and you know then they can appear someplace that is that is a significant capability. The biggest ease in production because of this type of system because that mortar tube could just as easily be produced especially in repetition. over and over again with the system of this type which would be very simple to produce. And don't forget there's a mortar tube but there's also a plate there's an elevation mechanism and so on all this stuff needs to be fabricated. Well in any place where we can simplify one step we have more time to spend with more sophisticated technology into the refined areas. So that's one of the things about this we were looking at The big thing is like you said we went to wartime production and in mass production very very quickly precision Was still required for tolerances for the gun tube diameter. That's the only thing is internal the ID ID is the is the issue internal diameter guys Well, a lot of people learned a lot of things in World War I, and some of them were unpleasant lessons. Remember, that's the place where we learned that ammonia can actually rot brass. We learned that by having cartridges come apart in people's rifles. So, you know, there's a lot of things learned in a hurry, sometimes not so pleasantly during that war. Let's retain the benefit of those experiences and that learning and not go through the whole curve again. Right, well again, the database is there and what's interesting is when people go, well how could we possibly, and I've argued again, we don't have to go back to the Stone Age, the blacksmith created the core technology. One step before this was the blacksmith and the trade machinist. Now, he wasn't just a guy with a bellows and a forge, blacksmith was able to produce a firearm. and many of the tools that we're describing were readily available to him, but he built them himself. Now, we don't have to even go that far back. We have some machinery and we have certainly sophisticated base machinery to work with. Given the opportunity and looking at the experience of how many generations of tradesmen, what step can we achieve? Where can we go to find what we need to produce in the different tiers of technology to get us back up to speed? That's really what we're concerned with. And this is an excellent solution by the way, so thank you for bringing it up, BK, because this is again, for mass production or reproduction, remember it's repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat. You're not going to switch out the tooling. This machine does one job. It will do that job for the entire duration of its life or until it's no longer needed. And what's more, once you have set this up and worked out the procedures and so on, and you can show somebody how to do it, far be it from me to suggest violations of workplace rules but your eight-year-old daughter could run one of these things. Once you figure out how to do it, you say okay you turn this turn this wheel and then you reach to this point and you see these two marks line up and then you stop and you perform this operation. Anybody can turn that crank once you've got it set up. Exactly. So again here we're looking at as we were discussing the production of powders components, looking at finished products, and also remember non-strategic materials wherever possible to fill in the difference. In other words, to deal with certain components to save materials for prioritized production. Another thing to think about, what do we have in the way of plastic, woods, other pot metals, alloys that are readily available that are virtually what we might call skunk metal. In other words, there's a lot of it. Normally it's not considered applicable to the industry, but it has been applied, has been used in the past. by either the great powers on our side or the great powers on the other side depending on which war it is. And it's purely a matter of what is commonly available for each of the nation states involved. What's their dominant resource? What do they have in the background? Before we had petroleum product plastics, we had peanut and soybean plastics. which everybody seems to forget we didn't have to use and we still in many countries don't use necessarily petroleum-poiled oil products to produce their plastic material components that they use. Yeah, that's actually a good use for soybeans, not anything. They can't make plastic make fuel. There we go. Well, we are at the top. I know we're gonna hear the music in a minute because we're headed towards Judge Dunhill territory now. Thank you BK. You're welcome. God bless the Republic. Death to the... We shall prevail, it is penned. When the Empire is on the run... We are on the march of day and night. We are concrete blades, powder manufactured. Oh! Metal recollections. Yeah! Between everything I think we can pretty well deal with the problem, guys. As a matter of being creative, we've got the thinkers, they've got the stinkers. Thank you again, PK. Okay.