October 12, 2011
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Mark Koernke and Darrell Sivak discussed Operation Gun Runner (Fast and Furious), alleging it was designed to create a pretext for implementing the UN Small Arms Treaty through either Senate approval or executive order. They argued that weapons came from ATF arsenals and gun shops under ATF pressure, not gun shows, and connected the program to broader gun confiscation agendas. The show covered the Tucson shooting incident, Mexican gun laws as a model for US restrictions, ammunition trafficking across the border, and upcoming anti-UN rallies and gun shows in Pennsylvania. Callers contributed perspectives on Mexican constitutional issues and cross-border illegal activity.
- operation gun runner
- fast and furious
- un small arms treaty
- atf
- gun confiscation
- second amendment
- executive order
- mexico gun laws
- ammunition trafficking
- tucson shooting
- anti-un rally
- gun shows
- border security
- preparedness
- federal marshals
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Live 365 What would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free? That man? A brick action. I'll give that one a second too. Run, Kitty, run. And good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. This is the second hour of the afternoon intelligence report. I'm Mark Wernke. And I'm Darrell Sivak. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers. Darrell, you're going to have to speak up because you're really low. My voice is about as strong as it's going to get. Both on and behind the lines in occupied territories, southeast, southwest, and north. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to us on... LibertyTreeRadio.4MG.com, PBN.4MG.com, and we're on live 365, then go to Liberty Tree Radio. We're also on AM and FM micro stations, CB base stations, and Ultra Net Technologies, both east and west of the Mississippi, along with Southern and Central Alaska. We're on the Hallmark Network, eastern seaboard from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida. From the bottom of Florida, across the arc of the Gulf of Mexico, headed to Louisiana, Texas, Oklahoma. A big chunk of Nebraska, a whole bunch of Wyoming to include both the Pitt and the 3rd. then winging our way across the plains sweeping over the burgeoning banks of the Mississippi line in the Smokey slash the Blue Ridge where the restaurant crews, grandma teams, the OK teams and up there in Cleveland, La Ma Bell, Grandma Consortium of retired telecommunications workers are doing their part. It is a delightfully fall day. Some of the trees have gone completely over, others are absolute green still. So it's really interesting the shift here. The sugar maples are already turning and are dropping. So we got a lot of interesting stuff there. If you're out there tapping the trees, this is that time of year, it'll smell maple syrup in the air. What's it like over there and what's happening here in the neck of the woods, sir? Well, it's rainy and chilly. It's been raining all day and it's brought a lot of the early leaves down and we have the same condition you do about the leaves. Some of the trees are still just as green as they were in June and other ones have lost with the rain and brought most of the leaves out of them. It's the same thing. Same type, except we're getting rain. And it's going to be chilly and What I have happening over the next two weeks is I have a gun show down in Rocky Grove that I'm going to be at. I can't be in, down at Knob Creek, although if I had my brothers I'd be at Knob Creek, but I can't do that. So, we're going to do the gun show and then Saturday the 22nd at Diamond Park in Meadville, we're going to have an anti-UN rally, which I have a question I want to talk to you about, Mark, here in a minute. concerning the UN and a certain treaty. But it's going to be starting at 2 o'clock and run to about 4 or 4.30 with us burning, I think we have maybe 3 or 4 UN flags that we've been dragging on to dirt for the last 4 or 5 years so that we can have a nice little fire. Warm things up, maybe bring on another Indian summer spell. After we're done burning them, we're going to leave just enough to be able to identify what they are, and then we're going to, we're talking about boxing them up and sending them back to the UN, tell them they were defective, and ask them if they would send us some more. So that's what we have planned for the next couple of weeks. Very good. So again, we've got a couple of events coming up, and the gun show again, let's make sure everybody knows where you're going to be, so they'll know how they can stop and say hi. Yeah, it'll be at the Rocky Grove Fire Hall in Rocky Grove, PA, and if you're from around this area, it's really easy to find. And if you get down to Franklin, PA and you can't find it, well, I just ask almost anybody, and they should be able to tell you where Rocky Grove is because they're only like about a mile apart. Question. How big is that show usually? How many tables? Usually about 120 tables. So it's a nice little show and cool stuff shows up. I'm sure Yep, a lot of stuff goes through there. Hopefully I have the right combination of stuff to be able to move some stuff I am also branching into selling pieces parts if you need firing pins I've been working on getting firing pins for some M1 grands M1 carbines and some AR15 I've got extractors coming in, not a whole lot but a couple for each one, M1 grands, M1 carbines, AR15s, and reloading component. That's basically what I'm branching into, getting into. So, be that as it may. The question I have for you, do you remember back in October of last year when Hillary negotiated the Small Arms Treaty with the UN? Yes, actually we've been covering it as it's been developing. Go ahead. Yes, okay. What's the latest on that? Well, we've got a bunch of stuff that's been coming in from, in fact, the NRA has been calling around, also gun owners of America. Larry, I should have him up here to visit again. From the UN end, we have agreed and she signed into it as an understanding, which of course, she has signed onto it. So the United States has signed onto this treaty, but they haven't approved the treaty. That's where so far the agenda as it's been sitting is that they've been trying to push parts of it through and do most of it through the administration without even going through the Senate. I think that's what Obama has been doing through the combination of the Batfaggots holder and obviously import-export tariffs and controls. So, again, using the executive administration to get the job done, at least at this point in time. Go ahead. The reason I'm asking that is because I've had a thought that came to mind concerning the Fast and Furious program. Do you think, now this is just my brain working in conspiracy, do you think that the Fast and Furious was designed to create an incident in which it would give them the momentum to be able to implement this one way or another, either through the Senate vote or by executive order. Oh, absolutely. You're right on the money. That's what I've been saying. The purpose behind this, Operation Gunrider, which they then gave a comical name to so they could try to put a smiley face on it after people started dying, If you think about it, the whole gist of this was that guns to Mexico, I read some BS, let me find this right here for you. And for everybody else listening, this is from the Sierra Vista Herald slash review. This piece was done by Associated Press, it was by Pauline. Oh, let's see, Ere-Laga. Ere-Laga, probably Mexican from down there. It could be Italian though, too. Anyway, one of the things this Batfaggot was saying, oh here we go, Dobson came, and I'm going to do this because I'm being very facetious. None of these Batfaggots have a conscience. They'd kill their family members and blame somebody else for it in a heartbeat. Dobson came to Phoenix to carry out a key component of ATF's mission. to stop gun running to Mexican drug cartels. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives had stepped up efforts to dam the quote-unquote, Iron River flowing south. And group seven was supposed to be leading the way with an operation called Fast and Furious, except that's a lie because it wasn't called Fast and Furious back then. It was called Operation Gun Runner, right from the start. See, this is a propaganda piece to try and desperately deflect this. Oh look, the poor ATF agents, they need to keep their job. They had gotten cognizant of how many people killed, but they finally came forward and talked about it when they realized their old memory gland was in the ringer. Now, in reality, the whole purpose behind this, think about how far back this is when they started this, because this was a cascading project where they wanted to bring more and more of their shysters into it, all bat faggots, and Homeland Security and all of that. Federal Marshals were involved, DEA, FBI, ATF, and Homeland Security in general. Now, Federal Marshals transported the other stolen guns they don't even want to talk about yet. that they took from ATF arsenals around the United States to include Detroit, Michigan, Seattle, Tacoma, Minneapolis, St. Paul, locations in your state on the east coast, I believe Philadelphia, Boston, and I think one other city on the east coast. In addition to that, Most of the other centers or primary district and regional headquarters were handing over weapons and routing them through the federal marshals and through other agencies as part of a transport policy. In other words, they already had stuff that were moving. What they did is weapons that were supposed to be returned to individuals that were illegitimately taken by the ATF were quote-unquote lost. Now, this is in the tens and tens and tens of thousands of weapons stolen. Now, when people came back and said, okay, well, the court said, return the guy's weapons. Oh, we don't have them anymore. What do you mean, don't have them anymore? Where'd they go? Oh, they just disappeared, but we'll pay you for them. We'll determine the value of them. We'll pay you for them. Now, they did this also with ammunition. and what they did is shovel it out the back door, it went down to Mexico, or they slung it down the streets in other locations. But mostly it went to Mexico. However, see here's the thing about this. You know, Darrell, the one thing they were saying before was gun shows. It's at the gun shows. It's at the gun shows this. Remember that? Remember that BS? The gun shows. The gun shows. Well, none of these weapons came from any gun show. None of these weapons came from anything other than that when anything that came from an FFL came from gun shops that were strong armed by the ATF And remember that they had television feeds where they actually were, you know, I don't know, I could use some really nasty phrases here, but they were jerking off at the other end while they were sucking on coffee and maybe each other, and watching the videos of these guns going out the door, which they never stopped them down the street. But first of all, they interfered with their whole scam. Remember they said, oh, we're all going to be safe. Now this is nothing I said 10 years ago about this. They're all going to be safe when they pass the new gun search and the gun seek and the gun check thing. And oh my goodness, except as I said before, what they will do is at their discretion, they will manipulate it. And lo and behold, what did they say they did? They had these characters could not possibly have bought firearms. They didn't have the proper ID and the guy the guy even said you know after he the guys that had the gun shops who were strong armed by the ATF to have the cameras in there They were told that you know well give it to him anyway It's like wait a minute. You serious the guy in some cases the guy said he asked four times He goes you are serious. You are serious. You approve this Did you approve this and it's like well shut up just do what you're told And it's like, oh, okay. So you see, here's the other part that nobody's thinking about. Who runs the InstaCheck system? Darryl? Well, the FBI. So right off the bat, see, here's one of the problems, okay? Let's do the who runs what machinery? There are offices on the east coast in your neck of the woods that are actually the hubs. In fact, I put them in the Battle for the Republic book series because they're critical to understand that these rats Okay, are from another department. And the rats from the other department knew full well because they had to be beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep on the phone! Hey, hell. Well, yeah, that's part of the Operation Gun Runner thing. Yeah, we're all setting this up so we can confiscate the rest of the guns. Just let that go through. Then we're gonna blame the gun shows for the guns that the ATF and FBI approved through gun shops that were regulated by the FFLs and that were shoveling stuff down south. Hey, wait a minute. That doesn't match up with any of their earlier propaganda. And remember, that was the whole slap. All the gun shows in the gun hole, gun show loop. Well, it wasn't any gun show where any of this stuff came from. Now, that right off the bat should flare up for everybody, because that means that there's other parts of this that I've been trying to explain are in motion. The guns stolen from the armories from property rooms. Let's actually get the proper term here. They're arsenals, but they're property rooms. where everything is documented, everything has forms, everything was triple checked, everything is locked and chained and everything else, but all of a sudden all these guns, they just disappeared, Darryl. They just went on down the road and disappeared. Shazam, Sergeant Carter! How did that happen? Well, I'll tell you, I have a feeling that a couple of firearms that disappeared from my place when they pulled the raid here probably ended up in the hands of the Mexican drug lords. Or, and this is one of the other things to remember, and I'll remind everybody of this time and again of the Carl Miller case. The characters, ATF, FBI, or other agencies, and the state police in your area hold the weapons back, you've got your name on them, and they will reappear. This is why the ATF will not generate a specific destruction certificate on weapons they steal from the American people. When they grab weapons and they say, well we're just not going to give them back to you, oh well then you go fight in court and eventually you get them back after you spend more money on the weapons they're worth sometimes. It's a matter of principle, but if you do then by that time they say, oh well we want to get them and your guns are gone. Really? Now the problem with that is, in the books they'll try to claim that the number's on the books, well the gun's on your name and I see here that they were supposed to have returned it. So you must be the one that when they find it later, you're the criminal. Well, we never got it back. See, so if you don't have it back, where'd it go? If it didn't get it back, where'd it go? Well, we don't have to tell you. Yeah, you do. And the biggest problem is lawyers, of course, are not going to do anything for you on that. But I want a specific destruction certificate for all these things they're taking. Or for whatever they're going to ground. Oh, they actually go into panic mode. I can't ask them that. What do you mean? You don't even ask them. Why? Well, for obvious reasons, because everybody knows they're stealing the firearms. It's that simple. They're stealing them. So, I think personally that the whole purpose behind this, yes, you're right on the money on this, there were multiple layers. Think about the timing with regard to not just the treaty, but also the idea that they wanted to throw the treaty out there to get that. That would take care of manufacturing at all levels for them to attack it. So then they'd continue with attacking reloaders. All these people who are shotgun reloaders would all of a sudden become criminals. They couldn't do anything to get rid of their stuff. They couldn't sell it anywhere. They couldn't get rid of it. They couldn't move it. They'd all be automatically illegal. That includes trap shooters, everybody else. All these fools who think the NRA is doing any favors for them, you know, sorry, they're not really going to make a great effort. By the time they're done, they might help a few of their friends and the rest of us peasants will be told that we can't have it anymore. That's if they had their way. But the whole thing was based on this fiction that had to be plugged in and moved down the road and it stumbled. It stumbled because of a number of things and I think the biggest thing that happened was this assassination attempt on the representative and the murder of that federal judge back at the beginning of this year. Because if you look at when these characters were all antsy and angsy, it's not that they cared about where the guns were going, that's all a crock of BS. They don't care how many of us or whoever else are killed by federal agents or Banditos or whatever. They don't care about that at all. In fact, they care more. Well, let's put it this way. They're talking about this, and let me read this quote again here. The stepped up efforts to dam the iron river flowing south. Yeah, but they're not doing anything about the coke coming north. How many lines of how many you go to any YouTube site you go all these different locations? They've been told they're not going to stop any illegals in fact now. They've been told they're not even shipping them out So let's see going across the border and walking as infantry in columns of 60 100 and 200 You tell me what's going south if they're not stopping them coming north What do you think they're doing about if anything about anybody going south? How about like zero? So, and let's not even get into it, well actually we will get into it, and we should. But let's not even mention, supposedly, what about all the weapons that are coming from the places where the dope comes from? First of all, all the weapons, when they came up with this first story, which was, and I remember I said it was propaganda. Oh, the Mexicans, not the president, he came later. When they said, oh, they've discovered all these American weapons south of the border. And then they were very disingenuous, in fact they were lying, when they held up a Barrett 50 and said, this is from America, this is the way, you know, it's kind of like Waco. They had these and we had these. Remember she held up a 50 caliber which they never used, and I wish they had. I wish the Davidians had used their 50 caliber rifles. Their Barrett's didn't even get them out of the box. They should have had them out of the box and they should have been cutting those suckers in two. Yeah, they should have kept firing as long as the Brents, as long as the feds were in range until they had a clear zone for roughly speaking two and a half miles. If they could see them, shoot them. That's right. Everybody's learned that lesson now. But here's the thing. They showed a Barrett down there in Mexico. The problem is this. That was one of those stolen from the Mexican military. Why? Well, the Mexican military has bought thousands of Barrett's in fact I will say again go to the Mexican military parades on YouTube you can watch hundreds of different videos hundreds in Spanish not in English and watch the videos When you watch them you will see whole units of all you have 60 men and 120 man company 60 men like like a platoon and a half or a weapons special weapons unit and they're all carrying Barrett's every one of them The exact same model that that punk stood up there with and chose to everybody go, we found them with these. Well of course you did, because the stinking either some stinking armor out of the back of a Mexican truck, sold a Barrett and dropped it off to somebody wherever or he defected with the whole truckload of stuff and that's part of what he stole. They've had 100,000 AWOLs in the last five years. That's an army, that's 10 divisions. That's 10 light divisions ready to roll. And they didn't leave until they had something good to steal. Yeah, I'm going to leave and take my Pistola. I don't think so. They would be leaving and taking their RPG. And by the way, they used lots of RPGs down there. So when you see the RPGs and all this other stuff that they had on the list, it came from the Mexican military. But here's the other part of this. These characters are running in hashish. They're running in black tauropium from Afghanistan and everything else you can imagine. Now, as I've always said for years, you're telling me that the dope traders are running in tons of heavy drugs. are having a problem running in tons of heavy weapons. Are you stupid? If they can get the drugs through, they can get the weapons through. You're right. Everywhere, anything they want. And that's why when you look at those pictures, and I'll challenge everybody again, there's a bunch of those PS 90s. I mentioned that because that is an off-the-wall rifle, guys. It's an odd-nitch weapon. And for whatever reason, in these Central American countries, these things show up the Velmae bullpups were in the Caribbean. HK91s, back when they were the top of the line most expensive rifle in the hands of most of these dirt poor Central American countries, bought and paid for with our tax dollars, but you know, bought from the Germans and bought from the Portuguese. and they weren't cheap then and they're not cheap now, they're a high-end rifle. They always have been. Magazines are cheap for the moment, that won't last. But the thing is that back these countries end up with these unique weapons. Well, here's a whole stack of, like, it looks like a case of PS90 full autos down there in Mexico in the hands of the drug lords. Oh, you Steve-evil Americans! Wait a minute. We don't have any full-auto PS 90s. You're gonna go to Wall-E World, you know, Walmart, go down to the Walmart machine gun, grenade, and RPG aisle. See if you can find it. So... Uh, suck. Said that Walmart let me down again. We were hoping. Yeah. You see, but the point is that when you look at this, and every time you look at this, the common sense. So in reality, a very small, small, small, small, small percentage, and the ones that did get across were coming from where? Not from gun shows. They were coming from the ATF. They're being walked across by the ATF, FBI, DEA, Federal Marshals, and Homeland Security. And they all knew it. So they could then turn around and go, look, see? And we found these guns in Mexico and it's the gun shows, it's evil Americans and we need to pass the gun ban. That's exactly what they were intending to do. And to get the ban through in general anyway. You know, the treaty. Go ahead. Do you think that they will be pulling something, another stunt, a major stunt in the near future to, excuse me, to try and rush this through or push this through, Congress and that? The only other option they have is a variation on, here's the one thing is, as was pointed out, and I've noticed this, Biden is missing from being over Obama's shoulder all the time. Remember I pointed this out, if you notch in every picture, Biden was standing right over his right shoulder and staring right at the back of his head constantly. Now, Biden has disappeared from the picture since all this bad news and publicity, but remember, Biden is a rabid anti-gun slash confiscate the gun person. That is his job. And Biden being the Vice President is in charge of these organizations. And again, if something happens to Obama, let's remember who's next in line. And Darth Biden and Hillary the Hutt will be the dogfight. And as far as I can see, the interesting thing is they've been giving Hillary the hut more time, and not that she, you know, I don't think they're going to push her for the, you know, presidential slot. But the interesting thing would be to see how the fight starts if something happens to Obama, and if that happens it'll be the Jewish mafia combined with other elements that are factions inside the Ringknocker circles trying to, again, generate an issue. And remember, that's what they did back in the 60s. Patriots didn't shoot John F. Kennedy. Patriots didn't shoot Bobby Kennedy. Patriots didn't shoot Martin Luther King. But they found a great excuse to put a big gun man in place and a gun restrictions, didn't they? and in fact everybody every every aspect of what was going on there had nothing to do with well of course we know everybody if you're asked if they did it i was just reading interestingly enough an old review uh... from them from the seventies late seventies uh... jackie onassis slash jackie kennedy whatever but in fact one from the uh... seventies where book came out and there was a second book that came out that she generated actually i think second it was the First one was private, the other one was hers. Anyway, the interesting thing is the discussion always about if the next Kennedy were to be put into the presidency, they would get rid of him. And it's interesting that they kind of glaze over that, but it's they through the whole thing. They would get him. They would do this. They would do that. Well, then you have to ask the question, who's this they that they were talking about? Because she is referring to it as a they not as a him that crazy rifleman that crazy one alone gunman Never is it referred to that way By any of these characters who are in those circles and in the know it was a they Now that's just you know again, you know raises more questions about who's who in the zoo personally I think that this whole pivots around the two factions of the Jewish mafia with the Arizona the Arizona situation and the assassination of the federal judge and the attempt at assassination, which would have been a KIA, it almost was with the representative that was shot. Now, my other question on that is who else in the audience that was shot and possibly killed was a significant mover and shaker or well-known and considered an unacceptable sacrifice slash casualty. I think that created a schism inside the federal mechanisms that are manipulated in Arizona, in that region, run by the Jewish mafia, both the old clique and the rabid international clique. And I think that's where the battle is there right now. Because these agents and all these characters, if you look, when that shooting took place, that, not the shooting of the, because they're trying to re-project this. Oh, when that border guard was killed, oh hey, oh hey, they're renting their hair. It's like, no, they weren't. They were upset and concerned that they might get tagged for it, so that's why they came public on it, but that's not the only reason. If you look at when the actual information started to come out and they really started to flip-flop on this, it hits that window with the shooting by Lofner of all those people in Tucson. Another thing is how that was taken out of the media circles. rather than continue to bang the drum because one of the things everybody started to notice is, well, yeah, the representative, yeah, it's really bad, she's wounded, but they were not outraged and they weren't really overly excited or concerned about the dead federal judge. Which any other time they'd be beating the drum about that it'd be like yeah the representative got hurt But you know that federal judge all the federal judge all the federal judge bong bong bong bong bong and instead it's more like The judge got killed too I'm surprised that I know there is legislation out there, but I'm surprised that after that shooting happened that Congress did not react and force a lot of stuff through. I know they have a lot of stuff that they're pending, but I wonder if they're waiting for a bigger instant to pop it off. I think they're in trouble because the reason I think they kind of froze is they were hoping and instead the response from everybody, especially with all this police state BS from 9-11, remember you've got the father of the child that was shot and they immediately tried to use him. and he beat him down. He just thought, no, my daughter wouldn't want to be used as a poster child for more gun control. And in fact, the first day they thought they were going to be able to use him. And the second day, because every program he went on, they tried to twist that to make him do something that would be anti-gun. And he said, no, after watching what happened with 9-11 and then trying to fly and all the police state nonsense and the ludicrous actions there, no, we don't need any more of that. Not in this country. And then they started attacking him the second and third day. Oh, he's using his daughter for political advantage! It's like, whoa, you are all planning on using his daughter for political advantage. And there's an example of the Jewish mafia throwing mud and blaming somebody for what they are trying to do. They tried to use his daughter as a springboard and it fell flat on its face. The next thing that happened in Arizona is they passed a series of open carry laws to the point where now they don't have, the only place they have a restriction is one that they have kind of but not, kind of enforced but not, and that has to do with bars. I think that's the only place, no, not bars. I think the bars are clear. The churches are clear, the bars are clear, the only place they've got a question about is the schools and they were beating that down and I don't think they got any national publicity for that reason. Because instead they said, oh, you know what, this proved everybody needs to be carrying a gun and we just need to shoot them when they try to cause a problem. Which is what we said right from the beginning. The best thing that could have happened is that the 70 year old that beat the guy down, lofted her down, got winged in the head. He was a former marine. He jumped up, got shot in the head, and turned around and beat the guy down, helped to beat him down. And I know that he said, and I wish I'd normally, he was carrying a .45 and he goes, probably, I mean, it's mine, he was going, I just wish I'd taken my .45 to this stupid liberal event. because instead he came, you know, warm fuzzy. And out down there, any of the people, he's 70 years old, farmer marine. Arizona used to be a, well, you know, they used to give you a briefing when you got to the bases where they'd actually tell you, okay, now you're a lot of you're from the East Coast. And out here, everybody carries a gun. So if you go downtown, you'll see guys that look like cowboys, and you'll see people carrying guns all over the place. Don't be shocked and amazed. They had to give a briefing and orientation on that. Everybody here has a right to carry a gun, and they carry it right out in the open, and it's just like the old west. Because it is the old west. We're in Arizona. So, you know what? So, sooner or later though, because I've heard this happen over what you're talking about, people lamenting that after an event happened that they wish they had their weapon with them that they had a permit for. And this happened with the lady in Texas where the guy shot up a restaurant there. Lube's Cafe. Yeah. She had her weapon out in the car but she didn't bring it in with her. She was saying that if she had had it with her, her parents might be. I think her parents were killed at that point. You hear that all the time. Sooner or later though, it's going to happen. Somebody is going to be there at the right time with the right equipment and going to make short work of stuff. Now another piece I want to say thank you to our friends in the chat room and specifically Gunslinger there because there's an article he posted this morning I really didn't touch on. U.S. Border Mexico Drug Cartel Ammo. We know it's the flow of ammo. Oh my God! Let's see U.S. Border with Mexico Gateway for Cartel's Ammo. U.S. Border with Mexico. Well then we need to lock down the border don't we? Oh no no no no no we can't lock down the border. And of course the idea is that, for instance, they've got Nogales tactical cells ammunition just north of the border. Sales of ammo in Mexico are allowed only at select stores and gun clubs. Well, you've got to remember that again, the interesting thing about this is that if they can't stop the weapons, try to at least block ammo sales or restrict ammo sales in the US, which is what they're all yapping about again right now. Every year thousands of guns are smuggled into Mexico from the United States, fueling the brutal drug cartel wars and stirring outrage on both sides of the border. This is an absolute liberal-lip piece of tripe done by Robert Anglin, probably Jewish Mafia, the Arizona Republic tripe. These characters, by the way, this character is probably associated with a group of lawyers who are trying to carve Arizona in half making the southern part like another Mexican state. And they want to do that basically just a little north of Tucson, cut it across the board so that it's sliced. That's the kind of shyster you're dealing with here and these characters of course the last thing they want is an American population well armed. Personally I don't care how much goes to Mexico but you know what with all the restrictions they've put on and all the stuff that they've done we don't stop any of the illegal, we're not stopping the illegals from coming north so why are you flapping with me about anything going south? That's really my attitude first of all. Now, it's sad that the Mexican people are so foolish that they've allowed for a central domestic terrorist or government organization, the system the way it is, to suppress them and oppress them and disarm them. That's their sad, sad mistake. Now, because of this, they are going to have to fight harder to clean out their country and get rid of the drug operations run by the government. Because it's not just the coastal group, like the Gulf group, it's not just the zeta, zeta, zetas. All these characters are trained by the governments. And take your pick, the zeta, zeta, zetas were trained by the US government and the Mexican government. Wow! Isn't it funny how we... trained all these people and then over buddy buddy with them and then all of a sudden a few years after we've trained them we oh we've got to destroy them they're they're spongling drugs into this country or we they're causing terrorist attacks like blowing up the twin towers and and so on and so forth and same way with the most of the dictators over in the Middle East we brought them here trained them train their operatives and then turn them loose over there and then after a few years we've had to go to war against them. So we're getting back the seed that we planted many years ago and it's in my opinion is done for one design and one design only and that is to destroy this country and if the people don't wake up and And if nothing else speak out, and I'm talking to everybody, speak out, we're going to lose it. That's why I brought that up in the beginning of the hour, was because I wanted to tell people that they need to go to any anti-UN rally that there is in their neighborhood or their state and protest this stuff and inform people of what's going on. I know here in Pennsylvania we have one that we're doing here on Saturday, but there's another one that's supposed to be in Harrisburg on Monday. I don't have any details on that. I haven't been able to find that out yet. Hopefully by your next show or our Saturday weekend show, we'll have that information. So the people have found, there is no more time, let's put it that way, there is no more time to waste. We have to do it by demonstrating, taking the example of the demonstrations in Wall Street, the occupations of the Federal Reserve Banks and the, well, the district bank, I should say, or the, I can't think of the word I want to use. Yeah, mine's gone blank. But anyway, occupation of the Federal Reserve and marching on Wall Street are all good things and we need to ratchet it up. And Mike Alex Jones says, so what if you get arrested? What are they going to do? Less of the time they're just going to turn you loose. And the thing is, don't go to the court when they want you to come into court. And when they come to get you, along with a bunch of other people, why you just smack them in the face with a buttstock and go on your merry way. Well, you know something interesting here. Let me read this from this article as an example. This is what these pieces of filth wanted to do to us. In fact, I'm going to leave this out. I'll read it this way. Here we go. In the United States, there's only one gun store and it is controlled by the US Army. The store called the Director of Arms and Ammunition Sales is in Washington, DC. Gun owners must get government permits to buy weapons and can't own a rifle or handgun more powerful than a .380 caliber pistol. Ammunition sales are allowed only at select stores and gun clubs. Of course only for the wealthy. The penalty for possessing even one illegal bullet in Mexico can be severe including prison time. In... Oh, I'm sorry. I ruined that for you, didn't I? Did you notice what I did? Now, here's what this little article says. So here's where Mexico is and why you can see where they want to go with the United States. Now, let's go into this whole multi-border. Remember they wanted to drop the border and have the amaro? Now, Darryl, do you remember what I said about if they pass this, the most strict laws of each country become the laws of all three. They're not going to negotiate out anything. The international gun ban comes in from one direction. The multi-border, the border 21, border 51 project, means that Canada's gun confiscation laws and Mexico's gun confiscation laws apply. Okay? Now let me read this little part of this article because this is really the best way to understand where these shysters are going with this. According to law enforcement agents, the cross-border trafficking is all about supply and demand. Mexican drug lords demand bullets. And the United States has vast supplies of ammunition. Vast. Yeah, and we're gonna buy more. All we can. Because I know exactly why we're gonna need it. And here's why. 50 rounds might cost you 15 bucks here. ATF agent Wall said, but sell them in Mexico and I'll bet you can make $45. What do you mean I'll bet you can make? See, that comment is like, I don't know what they're selling it for down there. In other words, and here's the other part about this, there are people who have firearms, they're not going to tell the government, they're not going to even tell their neighbors. A lot of people have pistolas down there and they just don't tell anybody and they're not with the drug lords. Okay? And now here's the laws, this is what they're boasting right here in this article. In Mexico, there is only one gun store. It is controlled by the Mexican Army. The store called Directorate of Arms and Ammunition Sales is in Mexico City. Gun owners must get government permits to buy weapons and can't own a rifle or handgun more powerful than a .380 caliber. Ammunition sales are allowed only at select stores and gun clubs. The penalty for best possessing even one illegal bullet in Mexico can be severe including prison time. By the way, it's like the Caribbean where you get 10 years for just having a 22 caliber carter. Well, if that's the case, then the cartel should all be behind bars. Forever! Right, just on the ammunition idea here, which is you see that's the problem with this BS in contrast though Ammunition exports are regulated few restrictions exist for buying ammunition the US laws in the US laws that once treated ammunition sales as Rigorously as gun sales were repealed in 1986 and have not been reenacted you see where they're going with all this Absolutely. Yeah. And of course that's where the Mexico, why? Because when we have the Amero, when they collapse the American system and chop it all up, consider that they're going to want to implement that here. If you want to know what their goal is, that is the goal. And by the time you're done, only the politically correct, and it'll only be those who are allowed to dispatch the peasants when they wander over the fence into somebody else's special property. But when the system wants to roll over you and steal your house, your car, your TV, kill your wife and kids, rape, kill, pillage, and burn, it's okay. Because after all, they're federales, don't you know, Señor? Yeah, we understand completely. So again, the interesting thing about this is, like I said, the first of all, what they've done in Mexico and Canada is what they want to do here but haven't been able to get away with. And the best thing we can do is vote with your wallet and buy more ammo. That's all I got to say. But with your wallet and buy more weapons, you know, I mentioned the AK-74 and I will say this guy is still the cheapest solution and the most reliable Right now on the market are the Sega 545 by 39 weapons. They're very comfortable to shoot I wouldn't change a thing on them except maybe add a flash hider and That is about it and I would do it in such a way that I don't change anything more on the weapon than I absolutely have to why Why do I want to bollocks up a machine that already works? I would leave it just the way it is, wouldn't put, it's got a C stock on it, it's got an M1 Garand carbine type stock on it, so that's a little different for some people. But all of you can handle them, they're $350 a piece, when those $350 a piece guns are gone, the next time those Sega show up they're gonna be $500 a piece. Why? Because the .308 sold out first, and when they tried to restock them, the price went up to $500 a piece. Because the cost went up, because our dollar value went down. So that's what I've been seeing them at the gun shows 450 $500 550 maybe even $600 for the 308 model. Yeah. Yeah, because the job or end is 500 base Everybody's got them for about 500 You know five five nineteen five hundred five oh nine right around there Some have like four hundred ninety nine dollars and ninety nine cents. Okay, I'll throw the penny in Yeah, it's $500. You know it's under 500. It's this oh, it's $499.99 man. That's the marketing gimmick yeah $499 doesn't sound quite as bad as 500 Yeah, until you add that penny to it like you said the tax throws it over right there You go. Oh my god. It is $500 you know so there's just something to think about That's so when the guy buys one and his wife gives us a map so he can say, well it was less than $500 to hear. Well, I don't think they're really... See, once we win, one of the things that's going to happen is there won't be any illegals because the illegals will be stopped at the border. They will be either A, Bust out back, you know, okay sent back to where they came from or we're gonna ask him Do you like what's going on your country? No, we hated it's the hell called Mexico. You mean you really think it's a hell called Mexico Yeah, well, we need to fix it. Don't we? Oh, see one of you go to the down and fix our country for us Oh, no, no, no, no We're going to turn around and what we need to do is we need to have special training units where we arm up a whole bunch of Mexicans and we send them south with hand-me-down weapons that we took out of the dead globalist hands and tell them to go clean their country up. Don't come back up north, but head south. Head south, young man. Go south. And back into Mexico they go and let them clean up their country and eliminate that hell called Mexico. Because that's what the scam they keep using. I've been hearing this with all these food drives and stuff. Oh, the poor, you know, like the sanctuary towns. It's because of that hell in Mexico. Well, if it's a hell of Mexico, why do they want to make it the same, why do they want to create the same thing here? Yeah, it's so bad down there and you're trying to get away from them. Why are you bringing your stupid ways up here? Yeah, and all the other problems with it. So again, for everybody down there that's listening, and I know we're getting closer, we're going to have Craig, I think we have Craig in the shop? Alright, well we're going to have Craig here, he's going to let everybody know, by the way, Darrell, when the time comes, what's happening with Knob Greek, because he'll be down there. Before we go any farther, I want to reinforce, you're going to be at a couple of shows, well you're going to be at least one gun show here. Take the time to give the information out again, and do it twice so that everybody knows where to go and how to get there, sir. Okay, well it'll be at Rocky Grove Fire Hall down in Rocky Grove, Pennsylvania. And Rocky Grove is right next to Franklin. In fact, you can't tell when you pass from one town into the other. But all you have to do is get to Franklin. It's on, Franklin is on Route 8 and 322. Get into Franklin you can ask anybody about the show. That's the Rocky Grove Gun Show. That's just Saturday and Sunday and it's about 120 table show and My wife and I will be there with our pair from the area and then Saturday October the 22nd from 2 until about 4 4 30 we will be having an anti-u-win rally in Diamond Park in downtown meadville and If you're coming from south of South Prior State, all you have to do is come up 79 and take 322 into town and ask for directions and people will be able to tell you where the Diamond Park is because it's basically right in the center of town. And we're going to burn the UN flag. Actually, I think we have three of them that we're going to burn because we haven't done it for a few years, mainly because I wasn't around to instigate it. And so that's Saturday the 22nd in downtown Negro to Diamond Park. And we're going to try and save enough of the remnants to be able to recognize what it is and send them, box them up and send them back to the U.N. and tell them they were defective. And we want to know if they could send us a few more or send us some replacements. Hopefully we'll have a good time. And anybody and everybody is invited. to come and it's important because the because of the small arms treaty that the hill the beast has signed on to that now commits the United States government to figure out figuring out a way to implement that and if the second amendment goes so will your rest of your rights because that's the that's the iron in our Constitution. That's what gives you the right or the ability to maintain your freedom. Well, what's interesting again is with the scenarios being played out the way they are right now and again the Operation Gun Runner being a, was trying to be a catalyst for what was the agenda. The bad guys are getting more desperate but I think the other reason that they haven't pressed forward and even didn't even think to try and press forward with additional gun legislation is because they realized that nobody was looking at any of their illusions or any of their magic tricks. Everybody's looking straight at them. They already can see the numbers. I believe that the demographics with regard to the dissatisfaction level in and of itself is something that they've already had to take into consideration just with the limitations, gnashing of teeth and running of hair because of all the confrontations they had with regular people on the street. You know, like people, when they made the comment, you can't tell me about reading, to read any legislation, I don't have to read anything if I don't want to. And it's like, oh, well, what is your job then? What are you here for? Well, if that's the case, maybe we just need to fire your hind end. Now, I've argued for the longest time and I'll say this again, a lot of people are going to end up shooting them. They don't have anything to do with the Patriot Movement, but they'll try to blame it on them. I believe that when the time comes, and after a while everybody's going to go, yeah, okay, cool. Everybody's going to think it's like, oh my God, we need to panic on that more or less, the attitude is, okay. I think it's acceptable. Go ahead, Dave. Look, how many events in the past they tried to blame on the Patriot Movement, and then when the smoking stuff finally, and the dust finally settled, then the people found out the actual facts of who was actually the ones that were perpetrating it, and so... And we've got Hammond in New York. On the line. Good evening, gentlemen. We got Dave. Yes, again, the biggest problem you've got down in Mexico is their constitution. They've got to draw a whole new constitution if they're ever going to clean up their government. Remember, the constitution stipulates that only guys that wear aprons and go, ìOh, yea, oh, yea, can be president.î Exactly, only a mason under the Mexican, in fact it's kind of like why several of these other governments, when we point them out, nobody has read the administrative or bureaucratic structure. And when we point this out to them, they're like, huh? With Mexico, because remember, we did invade Mexico and occupied it, guys. Everybody seems to forget that. We had a war with Mexico. Santa Ana went all the way up to, what was it, Iowa? And in fact fought initially all the way through to, I think they were fighting in Cheyenne. Mexican cavalry was all the way over just about to Missouri, as I understand it at one point. And that was what really got things cooking, and the rest is history. But after we were all done, There were some stipulations that were laid down, and even though there have been several changes, as we know, let's talk about Zapata! And of course, you know, let's Pancho Villa! All these other characters that have these little revolts, when they took the presidency, no significant changes took place with regard to the constitutional structure. In other words, it was purely somebody being backed or financed or somebody financing themselves to take over the government, and the rest is history. So yeah, that's why they need to number one and when we win any illegals coming north you round them all up you arm them up you train them you equip them and tell them go get rid of that hell problem in south of the border there in Mexico because that's what they always say that hell and that's what we're running from Well, you only run from a temporarily. Here's the other problem I have with that They only run up here temporarily and then they take all their money back down to Mexico. I guess it's like part-time hell Well, isn't that a form of economic bail out there? Yeah, exactly. They know that, too. That's the whole point. We have what we call temporary on-hire slaves that are brought up here. They get to grab and round up all the... whatever they can. They bring up hashish, hash oil. They bring up marijuana. They sling it out in the streets quietly, and everybody's happy because their little Mexican friends are slinging the dope. And so that's another cash product that they bring in, the cash item they bring in. Then of course they undermine an American doing cement work, plastering, drywall, wiring, or whatever, plumbing. And you know, jobs that Americans would never do. You know, trade jobs that all these Americans are trained to do. Put them out of work and in the process don't pay any taxes and then run back south with all the money. that they weren't going. It doesn't stay locally in the economy. It's designed to go locally down south of the border, where all of a sudden, I guess once the money shows up, it's not hell anymore. All of a sudden, it's just cash on the barrel head. So I think the help part is that after you're done boozing and drinking and buying your goodies and buying their new Ford pickup trucks, that they can then turn around and decide that it's hell that they can't handle more so they jump in their truck, they get dropped off at the border, they walk across the other side, go back up to find another American job, and the cycle continues. And then they go back down and they make more Mexican babies so that they can have more Mexicans come across the border illegally. Right, or up here. Yeah. Yes. The anchor baby scenario. So go ahead Dave. We're almost at the top. Dave, anything more? Yeah, it's been over 20 years. In fact, 25 years. These guys, Mexicans have not only been taking money, Mark, and sending it back, they've been taking guns and brass, steel and Good things like that have been going across the border now for over 20 years They got plenty of stockpile. I just wonder when they intend to use it Well, I think there's more than 20 years Pancha Villa was using a Winchester as we could see and I'm sure that was sold over the counter or was pilfered But yeah, they've been doing them for a long time. They were let you go circus. We got back coming up. Thank you, sir. You're welcome. Darryl God bless the Republic We shall prevail ladies and gentlemen the Empire's on the run We're on the march. Don't forget to hug your right foot. Thank you, sir. You're welcome, sir. And we got Craig coming up right behind us here, so don't you touch that dial. More live radio here on Liberty Tree Radio. Now give me an update, and don't forget we have the new call in line. 712-43-20900. And the room number is 957-464 and the pound sign. We'll see you at 8 o'clock. Bye-bye. We all need to prepare ourselves. You might have the food, water, gold and silver, but ask yourself, are you truly prepared? That's why you need to visit mainmilitary.com. 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