Mark Koernke discussed Operation Fast and Furious (Gun Runner), analyzing evidence that multiple federal agencies and White House officials were involved in the gun trafficking scandal. He examined testimony from ATF officials before Congress, highlighted the National Security Council's direct involvement, and argued that President Obama and Attorney General Holder could not have been unaware given their daily briefings and NSC attendance. Koernke also covered a Vermont ATF task force targeting firearms trafficking, promoted Ron Paul commemorative coins and military surplus gear through Maine Military, reported on a militia exercise involving the 34th Regimental Combat Team with helicopter operations, and discussed propaganda surrounding the Norwegian shooting incident and AR magazine exports. Callers contributed perspectives on local sheriff coordination against federal harassment and the historical warnings about gun control from the 1960s.
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So we've got a lot of projects in motion here. as it stands, couple interesting things going on but before we go any farther let's get the date today it is as we know the first of August it is the fourth year of open Fabian socialist and Soviet socialist occupation of America with a K 2011 now interesting little piece here thanks to guys in the chatroom, examiner.com St. Louis Missouri and well this is kind of in line what we've been saying guys by the way first of all the bat faggots with what they did with Operation Gun Runner Guys, we all expected this. There's nobody that was surprised at our end, only these other people going, oh my god, look what we discovered. What do you mean? It's the Bat Faggots. You expect them to be these kind of dirtbags, and it's the Bummer Administration, and everybody knew top to bottom. Well, now they're trying to claim Holder and Obama, the only senior government officials not in on Gunwalker? by Kurt Hoffman, St. Louis Gun Rights Examiner. The interesting thing about this is no matter how you look at it, let's see, holder, now let's ask ourselves a basic question. Who runs the Batfaggots? Who is operating the Batfaggots? The Justice Department? Who is in charge of the Justice Department? Why that's right? That's that guy right there isn't that that holder guy? H-O-L-D-E-R See the back packets were put into the Justice Department so they could use it as a skank operation to give them a you know a gun arm You know make sure they had a more aggressive slash bottom feeding gun arm to you know run part of the pun gun arm ATF blah blah blah well no we're talking shooters murderers Anyway, what's fascinating about this is holder is well at the very least the box stops in that chain of command before it goes up to the next year which is bull bomber uh... holders the guy now they were going to try and throw the bat faggot acting director on this on the skewer but he beat him to the punch so they can't use him without him throwing other cards on the table the moment they try to open their mouth so now the uh... finger pointing of course how all you know holder no bomber didn't know well let me see you what's what's read this room because i again i'd rather just These guys have put some great stuff together here. It's just a simple article, not very long, but it reinforces what we've been telling you about the Batfaggots and the regime. When the project gun walker scandal became big enough that President Obama had to acknowledge that perhaps a serious mistake was made quote-unquote he claimed unequivocally that neither he nor Attorney General Eric Holder had authorized this monstrosity and that Obama himself had not even been informed of it, which is bullshit excuse me BS as we know Brrrr! Beep beep! Okay, anyway, his wording perhaps left him some wiggle room as to whether Holder knew about it but didn't authorize it, although as head of the Department of Justice, how knowledge of his part could not be seen to be at least tacit authorization would seem a fair question. Come on people, these are regime manipulators. They don't let go of the reins of power. They in fact wiggle the reins and down through the hole of the machine all the horse rumpuses move. Ever see that with a team of horses where the guy cracks the reins and it ripples through the whole rig and hits everybody's bridle and they all get moving. Well, that's exactly how this is with the centrists. These characters are all centralized control freaks. They knew. Period. Holder himself made perhaps a stronger claim on May 3rd in an appearance under oath before the House Judiciary Committee when he told Representative Darrell Issa, Republican of California, that he thought he'd first heard the operation Fast and Furious a few weeks previously. This despite having received letter from Senator Charles Grassley Republican of Iowa asking specifically about the operation almost three months prior to that hearing now Let's go back farther in this remember wordplay and lying are everything when you're dealing with whores like Holder Well, what about operation gun rudder you piece of lying tripe? What? Oh, I just said I didn't hear about Fast and Furious. I'll have to wait to formulate an answer for the other question. You see how that works? It's all word play. They're all shysters. We know they're line sacks of BS. And this is a classic example of exactly what we're talking about here. All semantics. OK? Let's though for the sake of argument take the president and attorney general at their word and except for the time being their claimed ignorance about gun walkers. Similarly let's for now not wrestle with the question of how such ignorance could possibly be consistent with the conscientious meeting of the responsibilities of their high offices. Instead, let's look at some of the recently revealed information about how many government officials did know about it. On Tuesday, we saw that the FBI must have been in on it because two of the purchasers, who accounted for more than 350 of the Gunwalker guns, were themselves convicted felons and thus unable to pass the mandated FBI administration background check without some mysterious help. And this revelation is apparently causing ulcers at FBI headquarters. Why? Well, because like we said before guys, this is like everything else. When they have cameras watching you, it's okay. If you film the truth, it's a crime. See how they're doing this B.S. now? Well, if you catch them at this and they got their arm in the cookie jar all the way up their armpits, example is the fact that somebody shut off the InstaCheck system. And that's a reality. We already know that. That's already been proven. Do we have to go back through the hours and hours and hours and hours of already released material where they flat out were laughing? They were watching on closed circuit television. They knew exactly who was buying what. The FFL dealers were saying, what the hell is this? They were trying to stop it, but they weren't allowed to. The InstaCheck system went into brain fart. Really? I guarantee it won't with you out there listening. I guarantee it. So the only way this could happen is because these shysters pulled this thing every step of the way through the process Tuesday was also the day of the latest gun walker hearing in the House oversight and government reform committee During that hearing were at William Newell who had been the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and Explosives Batfaggot Special Agent in Charge of the Phoenix kosher mafia clique field division when this fiasco was going on did his level best not to provide useful answers to any questions well of course not the Batfaggot office just like the FBI office in Phoenix is a little kosher mafia playground where they do all these dirty deeds okay This prompted Representative Issa to call Newell a paid non-answerer, and even BHF apologist Representative Elijah Cummins, Democrat of Maryland, described Newell's evasive testimony as very frustrating to both sides. Read that, they've all been told that they'll all be axed and their weenies will get cut off if they give any more out and they absolutely have to drag the thing out is the idea so that nobody really will be following the script. Now, on top of this, still, Newell didn't manage to avoid dropping some bombshells. One of those came in response to tough questioning, see sidebar video, from the representative Patrick Meehan. MEHAN, Republican of Pennsylvania, who extracted this tight little tidbit from Newell, emphasis added. In this investigation, they were full partners in this case, was Immigration and Customs Enforcement, now known as Homeland Security Investigations. We had Internal Revenue Service and we had assistance to some level from DEA. Now, do you remember what I said right from the beginning on this? Does everybody out there remember listening to this program and what I said step by step by step? All of these people were involved. But here's the kicker. I mentioned the IRS several times here for a reason. And not only that, the IRS. But remember, the federal marshals are in on this too. Now this is the one that hasn't been listed yet, but I'm telling you because of the database. And two years ago when this thing first went up as a little flare, guys, who was mentioned at the very beginning of this? why the federal marshal service down there on the border was tied in with this so now we got the irs oc we've got a cut you'll be on the show without customs enforcement the irs and the dea What a surprise! Who'd have thunk it? No, wait a minute. We all knew what was going on and it's a fact. Bottom line, they're all skank operations working out of the Caribbean against the American people. They were working to go after the guns because as everybody said this weekend, I talked to, I don't care who they were, pro or con, the bottom line is even those that are kind of in favor, all the BS said, well, the only reason we haven't been able to get you people under the socialist whip is because America is still armed to the teeth. And that's the bottom line. So, now we're seeing that this is bigger than the Department of Justice with other Cabinet-level departments involved. Perhaps Newell's biggest admission was the fact that he had exchanged emails last year about Operation Fast and Furious with National Security Council. Wait a minute! Oh wow! What a surprise! The NSC was involved. Director of North American Affairs Kevin O'Reilly, National Gun Rights Examiner David Cordrea presents the full transcript of that part of the testimony here. There's a little booping go-to. As the Sipsey Street Irregulars, Mike Vanderbal points out, this moves knowledge of the scandal not just close to the White House, but inside it. Well, of course it does, guys. They knew every step of the way. The President, Vice President, Secretary of Defense, and the Secretary of State are considered to be statutory attendees of the NSC. Now, let me remind you of what I said from the beginning here, but let's go at it from a different direction as I originally pointed out. We're in the United States. Let's take Math 101 here. We're in the United States and south of the border is a country called Mexico. Now because of that we have an international border. And from the beginning, there is no doubt that the Secretary of State's office, along with all of these other people that are listed, and by the way, Secretary of State are considered statutory attendees. Okay, in other words, let's put it this way, mandatory attendees of the NSC meetings. Okay, so they knew beyond a shadow of a doubt. Secretary of Defense means that the donor to destruction was involved. That's no big deal. We'd expect that. These guys are running the dope like the opium. They have to be tied into the gun running routine because they're the ones who got the opium to Mexico to ship up into the United States. See how that works? Secretary of State, well, she greased the wheels for a bummer because of course he gave the order so they had to make sure the Mexicans were up and online and how they were going to pull the scam to try and get the guns from America and that's what this whole thing was plugged in to do. Now do I think they're still going to go after it? Hell yes! They're going to keep right on going people because these are socialists and the pig that said these swine that are in Washington right now the pigs pushing this especially the reptiles behind the scenes the octopuses guys they're hell-bent for election to try desperately to disarm so they can steal the rest of whatever little pitiful property you own. That's what this is all about. These are the same monarchists, the same bankers, all the same BS throughout history. So why would you not expect that? Which means arm yourself better, buy more rope because you're going to need both. Anyway, let's see, I'm going to go right from the seat. Join the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the Director of National Intelligence. Let's see, but they are also regularly joined by the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Ching, the director of the National Intelligence and National Security Advisor, Ching, and other executive officials, Ching, Ching, Ching, Ching, Ching, Ching, Ching. The NSC conducts its meetings in the White House Situation Room. Do you think the president and holder wouldn't be there? Remember what I said from the beginning? They swap spit every morning. They have photo sessions every morning. Now, where is the Batfaggot Director? Where is Holder, who is the director of the Batfaggots? Over top of the Batfaggots. Sitting right there with Bummer every morning. They all swap and spit. All this cast of characters, they have black and white images, even though we got it where the color era, black and white images to make it look so much more important of all of these meetings. And they offer them on the internet. You can go look at them. So the cast of characters for every day, you could check. Well who would be cross, let's cross reference. Who shows up for these meetings every morning or every day? Wow, and since that's the person who was doing this thing and they all had contact non-stop with each other and we now know beyond a shadow but out that these people, these people, these people, these people, and these people were involved, what are you trying to tell me? The two people in the room out of the other 25 didn't have a clue what the hell was going on? Kiss my hind end. Okay? The NSC conducts its meetings in the White House Situation Room and the National Security Advisors. Presence in the West Wing provides the President with direct access to research, briefings, and intelligence related to all aspects of national security. Cha-ching! I said this two months ago, five months ago, one year ago, two years ago, where this was going to go and why. Okay, so that brings us back to the question in today's title. If Holder and Obama didn't know about Project Gunwalker, slash, read that, you know, Gun Runner, were they the only senior government officials so out of touch? Now that's not what they claim, guys. In fact, just reverse. They tell us that they're absolutely control freaks. They brag about it. They're absolutely in control. They know exactly what's going on. They are virtually giving the orders to every one of these departments listed. So you figure it out. Anyway, well, we can probably assume Vice President Biden wasn't in on it either. Otherwise, he would probably not have managed to avoid calling it a big bleep deal within range of a microphone. Now I will point out that here's the problem with that. At that NSC briefing, the Vice President is there as the Director of Central Law Enforcement. I will repeat this again. Look this institution slash organization up. He is the director of central law enforcement. That's Biden. So when you see this and his that title technically brings him to the table for the NSC activities and all of them have their fancy little titles and their little poo-ba aprons and little poo-ba rings and little poo-ba little whirlybird hats, the whole nine yards. Each one has its own colors, each one has its own title, have their own little flag, the whole nine yards guys. So they all knew. Now this shouldn't be a surprise to anybody, but as we said, wow, you know, who'd have thunk it? Well we did. Long ago and there ain't nothing that's surprising us here. I heard a beep, we may have a caller, who do we have? Or we have a patient listener, which is most likely, which is okay. Anyway, Now again, we got to remember that the push was for the global gun ban, which is why all this anti-patriot propaganda was generated. It's why Operation Gun Runner was put in place. Then after they got caught in Operation Gun Runner, they changed the name so they'd make it sound warm and fuzzy. Because after all, Fast and Furious was a tongue-in-cheek comedy action movie. Ha ha ha ha, ooh but with some serious killing here and there, but still it was fun. Fast and Furious was a fun movie. Therefore, with the Batfaggots are running Fast and Furious, it must have been a fun exercise with lots of Mexican and American people dying left and right intentionally and planned by every one of these skanks that's in this system right now. And all of them knew about it. So anyway, where does that go? Well, we'll see what happens with the congressional hearings and of course with the fools that are in the White House right now that are trying to play Egypt in denial. That's in Egypt, denial. It's in Egypt. Anyway, that's the next one to watch there. So, not a surprise for any of us, just something to think about. Also, before we go any farther, we are headed towards the bottom of the hour. I want to send our condolences and for our friends and for the people of the chairman. Thank you for bringing this up. Rest in peace, Joyce Rosenwald, the 69 legal researcher. Joyce Rosenwald. An extraordinary legal researcher passed away at 3 a.m. last night, July 26, in her home in California. She was 69 years of age. Joyce was hardy in spirit and a vigilant freedom fighter. Anyway, most important here guys is she passed away the July 26th, just only a few days ago, as a matter of fact, last week. And apparently she had a stroke. She was on the air with one of the programs, James Madison Talk Show. and called in July 19th, that's the last time she was actually on the air and was able to interact with people. Unfortunately she had a stroke and passed away July 26. So for everybody out there listening, Joyce Rosenwald, at age 69, a lot of people have followed a lot of the work that was done by her and a lot of people that she was affiliated with, something to consider there. And again, we also want to make sure we remember the people that have fallen when the time comes. Anyway, I hope that we're still there. I think, well, at least it's a crackdown. Yeah, okay. For the Mexicans, for Mexicans, Fast and Furious. For Mexicans, Fast and Furious conflict confirms US role in Mexican violence. Yeah, well, of course. Let's see Crackdown well, what could we have in the way of a crackdown forgive me guys? So just something I hadn't seen here before ATF joins with border patrol Vermont locals in gun crackdown Yeah, you know those Canadians especially their hockey sticks. I'll get you every time Let's see, the eight-man unit, let's see, Montpelier, Vermont, a violent crime task force in Vermont, is making inroads into firearms trafficking networks that link some of North America's biggest cities and run through Vermont. The eight-man unit run by the Vermont Office of the Batfaggots includes lawmen from ATF, the Vermont State Police, another spying group, and Addison County Sheriff's Department and a U.S. Border Patrol, all two of them. Established four years ago, it added a Border Patrol representative in 2010. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Anyway, so, resident agent in charge of the Batfaggots in Burlington office, James Mostyn, says the task force has so far identified three US to Canada drugs for firearms trafficking organizations and that the addition of the Border Patrol has made both agencies more informed about the flow of illegal drugs and firearms. Yeah, okay, well that's just a bad thing. It's pushing money in the other direction and doing the table scraping with a dope and bringing it south just like they did in Mexico. Wow, what a surprise. Who'd have thunk it? Oh, we could guarantee it. So anyway for the Republic of Columbus, Indiana, this is out of Vermont by the way, more on that as we go, but right now it's like, pfft, we told you so, what a surprise. Who'd have thunk it? So that means that's just another identified route for the ATF Dopers to be running guns north and blaming us for them, and then bringing dope south and pointing at somebody else. I don't think we have too much to worry about there. Anyway. Well, I should say we know we know what's gonna happen They're gonna blame all of us for whatever they do no matter what so might as well just make sure you vote with your wallet and buy more ammunition and buy more guns Couple other things here real quick. I have done. Oh, let's see first of all a couple projects I just got the three of the bids in for the Ron Paul coin working on that Unfortunately aluminum has gone up even since we started the bidding process guys and we don't cause the idea was aluminum is the cheapest we thought right off the bat okay we're not gonna be able to afford gold the hell with that that's crazy can't afford silver that's too much so it's going to be copper and aluminum unfortunately the chinese have been buying up all the copper and how new uh... new york and the the jewish mafia and the stock in the commodities trade have been jacking up the price on aluminum And of course that's a futures issue I addressed this morning. Remember, if it says futures, read that lie. When you hear futures and commodity, read that lie. As long as you understand that, you're doing just fine. Anyway, other than that, one of the things that we're looking at here is the fact that With the Ron Paul coin bid going the way it is we're probably still looking only a couple dollars for the Ron Paul coin and aluminum which is cool We have to get the dyes cut although I already gave them some ideas and sent those out So we'll see what happens there another thing and of course that's just an update It's still in the process and I gotta wait for two or three more bids. There's other companies I talked to they're all excited about the idea There's no business out there right now. So they really really really like to see this The copper would I think be the best choice and be cool because at least it's one of the three precious metals that we can use that we trade in on a regular basis so it's gonna always have a set value no matter what and for a couple dollars or three or four dollars for a coin struck like that with Ron Paul for 2012 would be neat. Another thing, I did a quick check with two of the companies. Now a lot of you guys bought the German web gear. In fact I want to thank you for the response. We bought out everything that Frank had at Maine Military. So I have been collecting from around the country from all the other wholesalers I was trying to find who had anything left in that gear and I'm going to try and filter it all towards Frank up in Maine the reason is that there's been a lot of requests for it He's got a lot of the other pouches and stuff But we need more of the gear the web gear itself so you guys can outfit more troops Well, I found the sources for that. Plus, as I pointed out to some of our guys in the chat room, including BK, the Belgian Fletar Camo Ammo Vest are another thing. They're half the price of the German system. But they may take both Molly, Alice, and they may be able to take the German web gear that is a unique system. Now I'm going to have a set of those in hand to do some research with in the next, probably it'll be a week before they get everything packaged up and shot out. But I also asked for a quote on everything that each of these companies had, top to bottom. That way I can I did the groundwork had to call these guys want to find out what they had so I give that to Frank at Main Military and Everybody can deal with Frank Frank's got an excellent system set up. He's a very reliable person He's got a business in place So it's easier for him to keep track of this stuff and the big advantage is he gives you a great price He's gonna make a package deal. So basically you're gonna get the stuff for wholesale cost That's just the way he does things he's been pretty good about this across the board So for all of you out there, we're working on that and I will give you a solution with regard to the FLECTR German Webgear and also the Belgian FLECTR Camo Ammo Vest system next. And again, I'll direct you towards that as soon as I know Frank's got them in hand. The other thing going on Forgive me, I had one of their... Well, actually, I'm going to do this again today because I don't know how many guys... Sometimes people are saying sometimes they're not. Howard in West Virginia, package on the way. John in Alabama, package on the way. Robert in New Jersey, package on the way. And I got a big box set out to one of our friends who's been waiting for one of everything. One package disappeared. And it's a big chunk of stuff, but that happens on occasion. So don't worry, we already had backup on that. Just pay attention and you can laugh when you see what the return address is on the box. You'll see why they usually get there, you know, when we do it other ways. So everything's in motion there. Also, congratulations and I want to say thank you again. 34th Regimental Combat Team, Colonial Marines. They had over 306 people participating to include family members that were providing meals and also other support. A lot of people showed up for the radio class on Saturday night to Sunday morning. That was really neat. And they worked with Hautari two militia units and we also had HK militia units out there this weekend. And the 34th is a unique formation because they get a lot of Desert Dust 1 former Marines. And these guys have organized this particular Colonial Marine Militia Unit as a mech infantry. So they've got a lot of neat stuff that they've been accumulating. One of the things the guys had a chance to do, they got a friend, they had air shows all over the place this weekend. Man, we saw DC-3s, like C-47s in the air. B-17, of course. I mean, we're just watching the skies, guys. There's not much of anything flying, but the stuff that was were rumblers. That's how you can tell, that big, deep rotary engine. Well, the guys got one of the Hueys over there for the exercise Saturday and also later on a Kiowa participated too, which is really neat. So we had recon and we had a lift helicopter to move troops in, practice loading up and also demarking. Everybody got a chance to do that with arms and everybody had to follow the ground instruction, safety and security measures, and perimeter security for the LCs. It went very, very well. They got video and the new Huttari 2 website will have the video. It's a really neat stuff I already saw with the chopper approach, which I thought was really cool. The old thud thud thud before you can ever see it you can hear coming way off in the distance I think it was kind of neat it was really warm so you get that hot air Guys kind of reminds you the good old days, you know, especially way back over there in places in Southeast Asia for some of the guys and Everybody else gave you got a chance to experience rotary wing operations. I'll bet not with the 20 or 30 helicopters No supergaggle just a couple but good time is had by all chopper can only stay there so long ahead go on to the next air show on Sunday And the guys were of course doing a display of some kind too, so they had a little bit of time because it takes time for the truck to get to the next location where they set up. Anyway, good time and congratulations everybody for participating there. Iron on the beep, do we have a caller? Yeah, I couldn't get through on Skype, so I'm burning some minutes. Have you been following this thing about the Norwegian shooter and the propaganda spin that's been coming off of that regarding AR mags? Oh, go right ahead, please. There's been stuff all over the place. I just haven't a chance to go over it all. Go ahead. McCarthy and the Congress has been saying, oh, well, we're partially responsible for that shooting because This guy bought a bunch of AR mags through some US vendor that was actually willing to export them to Norway. This is kind of interesting. They say, well, you know, he bought 10 AR mags at 35 bucks apiece. What was shipping and everything spent 550 bucks for 10 AR mags from the US. I'm not sure whether they're supposed to be exported to Norway, but apparently he found somebody who's willing to do that. So the argument is, well, U.S. laws are complicit in this massacre tragedy and we should clamp down on high cap mags and all this kind of good stuff. There are some interesting little contradictions in this. One comment they made is that he could have legally purchased these same AR mags from Sweden, but they'd be more expensive. So he got them from a U.S. mail order instead. I guess he found somebody or hordes of helpers that we never see pulled the telephones and burned them up until I found one vendor in America that would ship to him. But the thing that I find most interesting is that he supposedly bought these AR mags even though he didn't have an AR. According to all the press reports, he filed for, may or may not have actually gotten permission to get a Mini-14, which is allowed there under their laws. You're only allowed to have one of each kind of gun and no more than four. You have to say that you're part of a shooting club and all this blah, blah, blah. Lots of stupid, restrictive rules. But the Mini-14 is an allowed rifle and the AR is not. So why is his purchase of AR magazines relevant? Relevant to anything. Nobody is claiming he had an AR. Right. Well, okay. I'm buying hacksaw blades and I don't have a hacksaw, but my crime using a hammer was facilitated by my possession of hacksaw blades. What? Well, it's interesting apples and oranges. So again, the only purpose for that is we know they've got the UN gun. This gets back to what we were talking about, BK, the interaction with regard to the propaganda arm working on the UN gun ban. Yeah, it sounds like the only reason for him supposedly to purchase AR mags is the political impact in the US. It doesn't sound like there is any practical reason that he would want to have them for his purposes. Again, like you said, the biggest thing is traveling halfway across the planet. The other question is whether or not he even purchased them. That could also be BS. There is some other talk to the effect that he purchased something or other in the Czech Republic and smuggled that back to Norway. So what that would have to do with US laws escapes me. Well the interesting again the most important is just the general slant that somehow get you know look somebody had a shooting in Norway get the guns in America get the guns in America get the guns in America and of course everybody's got to do the oh I feel like they all do the angst I hate the angst pictures they had the mandatory you know a The pictures by the water and everybody's looking at their shoulders and down at the ground and but we feel bad that we have to perform an act of masochistic contrition. It's like oh, I'm sorry. Well, actually if you think about it. There's a couple of theatrical producers Notorious to the Norwegian and Swedish media, you know slash, you know the theater so I should say film production You know think about it guys where angst is their middle name So you know all stylized but the the big thing the Europeans enjoy being depressed, you know a lot of movies have US and European endings, they end them differently. The Europeans like the depressing endings and the Americans won't go to the movie unless there's a more happy ending. Blade Runner was one of those. In Europe, they loved the version where everybody dies. In the US, they had to put in a little bit of monologue and stuff at the end that suggests that maybe some people lived. Right at the very end of the movie where they the American eyes or the soft version where the two of them are in the car driving across the countryside in the barren landscape Yeah Well interesting for flying, but yeah, whatever maybe and yeah, they were we don't know how long she has to live But whoever knows how long they have to live is right that kind of stuff They left it open that like, you know, maybe maybe all the nice people lived Well, one of the things here too, and this is why I was pointing out we've got of course see oh, come on mark firearms? No, I'm looking for, forgive me guys, I want to see if I, there we go, see if I can get magazines. Thermal mags, that's what I wanted. They still have the deal on thermal mags right now, guys, where if you buy a whole lot of them, they're down to $4 a piece, basically. Okay. Does that CDNN? Yeah, that's through center fire systems. CenterfireSystems.com, a case, okay, 20 round, high cap, your choice of the Canadian military. Well, I wouldn't brag about that. But anyway, the serial number is MAGAR-THER-20, $897.99 for a case, if you buy a case, guys. and that definitely makes it worthwhile and that's a total of let's see let's get it right here to make sure we give you the numbers 225 mags per case. So the more you buy, the cheaper they are. But for all you guys buying ARs out there, what's neat is these are plastic mags. Leave them in the case. Don't even take them out. Just make sure that they're cello wrapped. Keep them dry. And when the time comes, they're already inventoryed. They're in little modules, little nests of three mags per shelf, you know, per nodule. There's one, two, three, four, five mag nests per, from left to right, and five deep. and then there's two or three tiers. I think it's two tiers but it looks like it was C1, C2, C4, C4, yeah whatever. Anyway, it's a great, they're already stored up, they're ready to go. 225 mags and that is $897.99 and away you go. And you carry it home guys. If you're within driving distance, I'd go pick them up. But you can't beat the price for that. For all you guys of AR-15s, oh they're 20 rounders. Yep, they'll work just fine. Get you posted to the ground and they're more than serviceable enough. So again, don't worry about them sending them to Sweden or Norway. You need to make sure they're all at home with you guys. Vote with your wallet, buy more mags, buy more ammo. Anyway, what else you got for us, BK? Go ahead. That was the main thing. I wanted to point out some of the logical inconsistencies in the propaganda spin because this is kind of odd. On the other hand, there's another interesting news item completely irrelevant to any of our topics, but somebody released a study saying that the average IQ of users of Internet Explorer is lower than the average computer user population. This is funny. So, I don't know, maybe they will use Internet Explorer to propagate preferentially some of the news about AR magazines in Norway. We'll have to actually, I'm going to do a little bit of a search here later on to see what they've got in the way of other like parallel stories. Because usually when they come out within one direction, they're propagandizing from several at the same time. Yeah, it's more coordinated than you would normally expect. Anyway, somebody else beeps too and I'm going to spare my card here. Thank you sir. I'm off. Thanks for bringing it up. And do we have another caller? I know we had a beat but we might just have a patient listener. George from Texas. Go ahead George, jump in there. Since I found out the Obama-era dictator going outside of law harassing gun owners and gun dealers, I'm sitting here, you know, I got Operation Fast and Furious, well I'm starting Operation Free and Furious, and that is, I've been going around, I went around to the gun shops, I got a list of all the gun clubs in our area, in my area, and I'm going to see if we can try to get a meeting with our county sheriff to try to block these buggers from coming into county, harassing the gun dealers and the gun owners. Well, part of the problem with this is something, and by the way, everything that they're doing now is exactly what everybody back in 1967 said would happen with the Batfaggots and with the Gun Control Act of 1968. Everything that everybody talked about is proceeding exactly as they were warned, and this is a big we told you so. So for all those guns gun clubs ask them hey, did you read anything from back in 1967 when they were fighting the GCA 68? No, I didn't well go dig out the gun magazines go dig out all the publications Go look at all even your own institutions if it's been a gun club and they've been around for a long time They probably had a newsletter and if they have a newsletter They probably have them on file if somebody was doing a decent job And if you go back through to the 60's, especially and into the early 70's when the abuse has started, the very thing that they promised, oh we're never going to computerize the guns, we're never going to have a check base, we're never going to restrict your weapons or harass you over that, And the way that they said that they would do this is because the FFL dealer would be the custodian to regulate everything and the ATF, if they started to abuse you, why? The FFL dealer would step in. And that's a crock because the FFL dealers were the first people they attacked so they could strong arm them, so they could threaten to destroy their business if they didn't acquiesce. Which is exactly what everybody said back in 1967 before all this BS the Nazi gun law of 19 1938 was passed in 1968 and of course all of these kosher mafia types support these Nazi gun bills Isn't that amazing who would have thunk it? I will we warned you about it So it makes you know, the big thing is make them think George everybody you start asking the right questions Isn't this something everybody talked about years ago back in the 70s? Everybody's warned. This is where they're headed with it and they tried they really did try but they got thumped and Even though they started to press the envelope on the AR 15s why they've done that several times guys back in 1977 1978 with Jimmy Carter The same BS started up again with, oh that's right, Bill Clinton, although George Bush really started it, and Bill Clinton just proceeded where George Bush left off when they kicked him down the road. So don't be surprised George, you're gonna get some resistance from a bunch of them because they're gonna try to be politically correct. Well we'll just let them have your semi-automatic rifles as long as we can have our trap guns. Well yeah, but now they say you can only have single barrel trap guns. You don't have any double barrels, do ya? Or some eyes. Or pump guns do ya? Because those are all assault guns now and we have to ban those. Well, oh, oh, well I can be politically correct. Oh, I'm sorry you came to have the single shot. You need, you can practice with a BB gun though. Only so long as we have a butt print, fingerprints, thumb prints, that we, you know, should have both cheeks leveled on a big chunk of, you know, what, 20 by 30 piece of paper. And don't forget your DNA scan, etc, etc. See, that's how stupid it's going to get. And people are dumb enough that they'll keep dancing through these stupid hoops. Let's point out this whole gun runner operation, George. The Batfaggots bragged. And guys, all you can find in these stories, go back through all the stuff that was released on Operation Gun Runner, which they now try to call fast and facetious. OK, farcical and facetious. When you go through that George it says right there that they were watching on video they had the FFL dealers camera it up and the camera the dealers knew this and They forced the cameras on them and they told them that they had to do this and they had to do that then what of course the FFL dealers had these characters in front of them that they knew there was something wrong with and they ran the Insta check and It went through they even said hey, what the hell is this? There's something wrong here, and they just said oh you shut up and sit down The very full circle process, in other words, it wasn't designed to save or protect anybody. It's purely an instrument slash tool for the police state. That's all that the whole process was set up to do. And to try and convince everybody that we need to surrender all of our guns to the skank UN. Because that's where this is all headed. So for everybody out there, you know, this is a big, we told you so, George. Go ahead, please. Well, also it's two. I gotta say, even like looking for the Texas, because there's a lot of Second Amendment groups in Texas, too. Not just the cunning club. And they're pretty much up to speed on it. And, you know, I said, well, we could always go to our peace officers, elected peace officers, but then again, many of them are paid by Homeland Security to go, whee, and announce in another direction, like you said. Many times well, they'll do what all they gotta do is pull their short hairs and they squeak a little bit Then you just roll over is what they do So that yeah, that's one of the reasons again Yeah We need to emphasize that the people themselves better get their act together because these characters have flat out flagrantly Lied across the board number one as I pointed out the early part of the program we read right down through the thing What the only and again this is now what came out of the the meetings in the last couple of days are all things I told you about months ago The only thing that's interesting is that the NSC has now been openly acknowledged that the NSC was directly involved. This is earlier than I expected. I figured they'd have to pry that out of somebody's face like somebody trying to pull a tooth, a bad tooth, out of a person only has one left and is fighting to keep it. You know what I mean? There's an excellent movie with the woman, there's a female doctor and she's fighting with this native woman, an Indian woman, and it's a grandma and the other woman's holding her down and finally she's like, what's wrong? She said, it's her last tooth and it's the only one she's got. And she goes, it's infected, we gotta pull it. And then of course they fight her, they rip the jaw open, they pull it. Well, that's how I expected to see them when it came to acknowledging certain things about, well, where were they talking about this and where were the briefings taking place? Well now we're I think a month and a half ahead of schedule on those releases which the control media won't talk about. They can't do. But what this comes down to is beyond a shadow of a doubt, every scumbag in the whole system knew the whole fast and furious slash, let's use the proper term, Operation Gun Runner. That was its name. They changed it only for political purposes. Was designed to be coordinated with the gun grab for this year in conjunction with the UN scam. and they wanted to expedite it. They wanted the Senate to be able to go, oh yeah, we gotta get the guns, because we don't know, look, we got this Senate bill here, it's a treaty, and we're all just gonna sign it, because we just gotta get the guns. And they could also pass the buck up. In other words, all these dirty rotten scumbags love passing the buck up. And so their logic is, oh well, you can't blame us, we're gonna put it in the UN's lap. When they come to your door and beat the door in, they'll be wearing black uniforms and have UN authority. They won't be able to blame the Senate, yeah we will. You blame all these shysters, but here's the thing this whole this whole operation step by step There is no doubt it goes right to the White House the NSC meets in the White House You one of the things that you got to remember is that and guys everybody listening I I challenge on this they do photo ops through the White House webpage every morning Every day they have a systematic series of releases showing you them swapping spit and running papers and somebody looking very serious, George, holding their sheaf of paper and everybody curiously listening to the person, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. You see so they can't there's an ongoing record of exactly who was sitting at the table each and every day Going back through all of these dates that are being mentioned in these hearings. Oh They didn't know about wait a minute the president sitting right there the vice president sitting right there The bat faggot sitting next to him the head of the bat faggots Holder is sitting next to the head of the bat faggots. Wait a minute. Here's another shot showing the bat faggot addressing the whole group See that's the problem with this, but then they're gonna say oh these aren't the drugs. You're looking for we don't have no clue What's going on? I don't know what happened. It's all a croc. It's all a lie across the board Mark you think the world will start over this I think the problem that we're gonna have is there's a whole bunch of people in the conversation It was this weekend with people from any walk of life is well You know I can't see how this hasn't kicked off already and this from like party store owner don't know him from Adam just stopped and had to buy some ice this weekend and he goes oh I see you guys are militia it was like yep yeah these guys are all militia he goes you know what I'm surprised this thing hasn't started yet they've taken so much from us and I got a pup with so much BS I wouldn't care if it happened or not And it's like, whoa, okay, well, what happened? Well, you know exactly what he's saying. It's like, if things started up tomorrow, a lot of people would actually, the biggest thing is we don't just need them standing along their own pointing. They need to pitch in. But most everybody understands that, yeah, this kind of nonsense, I personally think that it's always been the gun issue because everybody knows once they got the firearms, you'd have to fight tooth and nail through the whole pecking order of things to get to a gun. and that just it's going to take that much longer than to fight down or beat down the tyrant and that's what everybody's looking at so even people like we know interesting conversation other one that's a little off uh... in a different direction uh... so as somebody pointed out with even these cop shops is some of them gone man you know it's all right for me that to be stupid not to listen as one of our friends pointed out well i told you twenty years ago and you mean you just now figure this out And what it comes down to, George, and for all of our listeners is when they finally get their toes stepped on, then it's important. And so all these people who thought, well, it's OK if they beat on Mark, and it's OK if they beat on Don, and it's OK if they beat on George. Wait a minute, you're going to beat on me? Oh, you see. So there's where the problem lies, as far as I'm concerned. Rather than waiting 20 years, this call can finish 10, 15 years ago. Now, of course, these people are coming along because their retirement is being messed up. That's the other part they don't want to admit, is their retirement is being messed up. They're losing all this money they thought they had, and it ain't looking any better for any of them. And I can see it just, you know, it's degrading real, real quick here. Well, more people will be tied in and participate. I personally think, as I've said, if tomorrow, all these shysters in Washington disappeared, who would bemoan them? Who would cry over their loss? Over them being gone? There's nobody that I know. No one. Except for maybe a few of the panty-waists and I don't like them or you know again you know they exist but the suck ups or the ones that are you know sucking off of our wallets they might lament for a bit but then they'd have to get out of the war with work and where else they ain't gonna eat. That's all there is to it. So the big thing about the gun clubs is start to force their history. They pull out the stuff that was written back in the day. And of course some of these gun clubs and these gun organizations beware. It's like the NRA. The NRA wasn't against the GCA 68. They helped expedite it. They lamented for the sake of the membership, but every step of the way behind the scenes we were betrayed by the NRA. I don't hear the NRA now sitting here speaking out against us. Well they went to the UN and they flapped their guns. Lippi Ayer, the man who brought us the Brady bill, okay Mr. Lippi Ayer who said, oh we can't channel, we just gotta let them have the Brady bill and this and that and the other, it's like, oh okay, well that character just talked in front of the UN, but what did he do? Oh well you just better not do that or I'll shout stop. And if you try and push this through, I'll shout stop again. But he won't do anything. He'd be so far away. If there was a fight for our liberty, he would be so far to the rear, you wouldn't know where the hell he was. That's the bottom line. The same with a whole bunch of these other bar stool sitters. Because that's what I look at them as. Nowadays, and that gets into another issue we had a discussion about too. It's just, don't be surprised. Gun Owners of America, GOA, Larry Pratt, if you get a chance, 70323218585, www.gunowners.org. Gunowners.org. www.gunowners.org. That's the group to go to and that's the place to go to find out more about what's really going on. You'll have more truth there than you will ever with the NRA. They'd sell us out in a heartbeat and hand you over just as quick. And wouldn't even think twice about it. Anyway, George Willchamp. Well, you think you could probably get Larry Pratt on after the latest developments? Oh yeah, we had him up a little bit ago. But like I said, anytime he needs to come up, he can come up and take the whole hour and two if he wants. I don't have a problem with that at all because one thing about Larry Pratt and the guys here at GOA, they have been consistent for as long as it's existed. And by the way, most people don't realize GOA actually, George was originally a consortium of three, actually four, if we count it right, four different older pro firearms institutions that were getting long in the tooth, a lot of the membership was older, and they were worried about seeing their efforts lost to history. So they got together and they actually worked and provided their membership as a resource. and worked with putting Larry's organization up and online. It was really neat. And when that happened it was like a breath of fresh air for everybody. I can't stress that enough. I remember whatever it was like. Gun owners of America, yeah, yeah, there's a whole bunch of groups like the Tennessee Gun Owners Association, Tennessee Valley Gun Owners Association. A bunch of others were originally out there and that's where GOA came from. And they did a really good job of plugging in and getting themselves up and online. So I'm proud of that. I helped to make that happen years ago. In fact, originally, two of the organizations I traveled, they asked, they were looking for somebody to take over custodial ship of the operations. And we actually looked at taking over one of the facilities that was down in Tennessee, a beautiful site. had meeting facilities, all the files and the historical database of everything on gun ownership and the attack on gun ownership, etc. Very well organized by the way. Somebody else picked that up and that turned out to be Larry. And of course we connected, I said well guys, you know, we're focused on how much work we have to do and the manpower, a pro firearms group like this needs to be consolidated with others to make a stronger organization. And that's what took place. Eventually everybody connected with everybody else and the rest is history. But originally I sat down with the people and it was like, well Mark, you got to pick this up. And it's like, well, Mark has so much stuff on the table right now, I'll bet you we can find some good people to operate it. And it's just like when we were doing, when we organized the militias years ago. And I'll remind everybody to see, we had a lot of people say, well, you've got to do this. Well, I had to pick a direction with certain things. So what we did is we routed everything to people that we knew were pretty reliable or were hard chargers in their respective states. And the reason we did that is because of the mass of people. You cannot imagine until you see the mail bags full of mail that were coming in. People were like, how can I organize? How can I join a militia? I said, well, organize. Organize on your own. Don't you know five people? Build a fire team. Don't you know 10 people? Build a squad. Don't call it an army. Call it a squad. squads and fire teams can be brought together and so George that's what happened we built up the militia that way it was already pretty much in place it's just that people were looking for you know more organization The Colonial Marines came out of that. Wolverine militias came out of that. MALs, militia at large units, the big MAL units, they came out of that. These new HK units came out of that organization mechanism, the process. So the same is true with the pro firearms groups. The NRA, as far as I'm concerned, I have no confidence or faith in them at all. They're just plastic. They're purely, when they bought the big glass palace, that's when you knew it was over. Oh, we gotta have our own building! Yeah, okay, whatever. So they took the membership funding that should have been to fight for our cause and threw it out the window. That's what they did and I never I've never donated a dollar to them since for that reason years ago when I was younger and a little more naive You know it was like well the NRA the NRA. Yeah, well I the other thing that got me about the NRA and I'll say this I know we got to go here in a second I know hundreds of cases that where the firearms owner was attacked unjustly and not once has an NRA lawyer ever stepped in and not once has an NRA has the NRA ever helped anyone that I've ever heard of or known not once so as far as that you know the legislative idea or the legal support no there is no such thing there are a bunch of shysters from the word go in their jobs to try and sell out as many firearms owners as they can George are still there? Yes I am. Anyway let's close up with me God bless the Republic That's the New World Order. We shall prevail ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. And we are on the march, day and night. Hoorah! 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