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The freedoms we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate. And your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold you trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame You've taken Satan's number You've traded in your name You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each God given right we only watch in tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free? Good evening ladies and gentlemen. This is the evening intelligence report. I'm Mark Hernke and I've Donald Bettsch... 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Out to the pit, back to the dumping site. Out to the pit, but with a truck beside the two of my houses. As long as they want to keep driving, they guess they can still make overtime, and they run 24-7, guys. Anyway, then back over across Iowa to our friends there, to the Mississippi, beyond the Mississippi, back east to the Golden Spike Project and the Smokies and the Blue Ridge. Remember, there is a meeting at the restaurant on Sunday, a meeting at the restaurant on Sunday, a meeting at the restaurant on Sunday. Transportation necessary, bring trucks, trailers, and vans. Make sure that you are there by 5 otherwise you will miss out. Call in your meals in advance. You know the numbers, you people that are attending, make sure that they know what you want. They can pull the food, save the cooks and all the preppers time before you get there. Don, what is the day today, sir? Mark, it is the 27th day of October, year of our Lord 2010. Again, 27 October, October 10 you guys and that is the strike down the middle of the week. Well, you're going to hear a little mechanical clatter here. And you know what it is. It's one in the chamber. The slide jumps to battery. The magazine is in the well. It is weapons ones day. The perimeter is secure. And I got mine. You got yours. OK. Now, I want to run right into this, Mark. Because I got mine. You got yours. Where do you keep it? And you know what? It's fallout. We've been talking about the blustery, leather, a little weather. a little bit as of late. See, I got a whole letter in the word arrangement ahead of myself. We've been talking about the weather as of late. At any rate, if you put on that leather jacket, there's another L word, it's easy to conceal that gun underneath. It might be the overcoat, it might be like the trench coat. You could hide your SK, you could hide your AK, you could hide your M16 under that duster, that leather duster. But you know what? If you're just standing around in McDonald's, the guy in the leather duster walks in, everybody looks at him for a second. When you're talking about just concealed carry, one of the things, well it's been brought up Mark, that Bill Hickok got in some of the gun fights he did, because his hair was down past his shoulders and he just couldn't leave the women alone. He wasn't doing this or that or the other thing, he was bragging about it. So, you see what I mean about, well, if you're going to conceal carry, you don't want to be real flashy. You don't want to call attention to yourself because, well, you might be in a place, you might be in Mumbai, Indiana, or Mumbai, Ohio, or Mumbai, New York. Well, it's going to be a little bit harder to do in New York unless you're out state. In New York, they call it ups. state because it's down there in the corner and everything that's not in New York City is upstate. Much like in Michigan, well, everything that's not Detroit, if you're not living in Detroit, is downstate. Well, if you're living not in Detroit, you call Detroit downstate. That's another way. But again, the suburbs of Detroit, Mumbai. Think about this, you guys. When people move in, in an attack situation like that, surindipidus, so to speak. They're trying to be nonchalant. La-da-dee-da-dee-da. I'm going to carry my machine gun over here and nobody's going to see it because it's in my suitcase. Or the guy behind me has got 25 grenades. Or however the terrorist thinks like that. As he walks through what he is soon to be perceiving to be dead targets, he's looking for the threats, isn't he? Now that guy over there, he looks like Secret Service. And that guy over there, I think, he's Mossad for sure. I saw him in the Asia ones. You know what I mean? And that's just, you know, that could be like a movie there. But they're looking for people who they believe to be a threat. And if you just want to blend in, well, you know, how does that go? You just want to blend in. And I'm not trying to double talk you. I'm trying to be redundant in the statement thereof. Okay, so with that in mind, you know, under your three-piece suit, oh, you can hide a number of small arms under your three-piece suit. The Secret Service mark, you know, they hide those MP5s rather well, okay. And before that, you guys. That and more. Yeah, it was pistol-configurated M16s. And now that's bigger than an MP5, isn't it? But it still hides under the three-piece suit. Now, you know, I know a lot of people that listen to this audience, and I mentioned earlier in the day, catch me in a suit, yeah, fat chance. But if you We are beyond the t-shirt season, you guys. This is my point here, and this is not necessarily my point, but one of the little fulcrums or vectors in the conversation. In the summertime, in the t-shirt, or even the long sleeve shirt, or that sport shirt, or whatever it is you are wearing, it is a little bit harder to conceal stuff, isn't it? Unless you are back over to that three-piece suit. Again, not a whole lot of us wear a three-piece suit. We might have one once in a while. But now we're into the fall, winter, and spring, the next three seasons, right? And in the fall, you can wear a vest, and you can wear a big fluffy sweater. Those high handgun profiles real well, don't they? Excuse me. But one of the things you can do is you can go down to one of the big department box stores right now, and you can get basically a ballistic nylon vest. And it'll be slightly lined inside. Or it's also the season small game is coming up. Or you can go down to your hunting store and get a hunting vest. And that hunting vest might have a pocket on the back above your kidneys to drop that bird or that rabbit in. That's another good place to put things. But it's a great big pocket, easy to pick. Bear that in mind. It's a great big pocket, easy to pick in the city. You might not, unless you're paying a whole lot of attention, something in there might not be in there when you want it. It's a great big pocket. Stuff falls out real easy. But when you look at the front, look at all the small places on some of the hunting vests. You have, well, a number, and I'm not talking about the mesh ones for standing there skeet shooting or trap shooting and holding your finger under your nose and saying, oh, I believe I shot that piece of clay there, James. You know what I mean. I'm talking about real world functional wear pieces of apparel. And we talk about load bearing equipment. But you'd look kind of, well, a little bit suspicious if you were walking into the McDonald's or Burger King or Wendy's or there's three brand names for you. I didn't mean to do that. Wearing your load bearing equipment and a few of the things that are supposed to hang on it, the accoutrements, so to speak, hanging there. So again, you don't want to stand out, do you? Now, let's go back to that, well, you can get a nice cloth vest or you can get something, a ballistic nylon. It could be in police blue or police black or whatever, you know. You can get it in green if you want. Pick out the color. But you know what? You can sew a whole other vest inside that. So the whole vest inside hangs on your body, just like the vest on the outside should. So that when, you know, take that ballistic nylon vest and put your 1911 in one of the breast pockets. and look at how it hangs on you now and think that, well, if I just sold me a pocket to the inside of that and put my gun in there, no one would ever see it. But yeah, they'd see how it hangs on your body. See, that's one of the little subtle things you look for when you're walking into a place and you're looking and assessing threat values of individuals. You're looking for the little crease in the clothes that is odd or the tug of weight in a place where it shouldn't be. And if you train yourself to this, much like trying to be praying all the time, we've addressed that before. You can dedicate at least a couple of brain cells to praying all the time. And if you're not, well, you should be. But you can train yourself in a number of different areas. And this is one thing you need to doing. Looking at how clothes hang on people. And looking for the goofiness of one side or the other that says weight is there. And that'll tell you that man's packing. Okay, but if you were to take that cloth vest or that ballistic vest and work a pocket into it, now here's another thing that, because you know, like the scales of justice, you can balance out that vest. And if you've got like a 1911 in one side, I can honestly tell you that it takes seven to nine fully loaded magazines in the other side of the breast of a vest, not to be double redundant in the use of particular syllables there. to weigh out the 1911 so that it looks natural hanging on your body. I speak from real world experience there. Now you might want to sew that pocket in along the vertical seam between the armpit and what would be your hip. A lot of times that vest is going to have seams there. And if you use that seam, even if you use that seam to anchor the holster area so to speak and then sew holster area into a different area, Then sew, finish that at the button line or at the zipper line or at the Velcro line. Now, see how you've taken away some of the weight influence? You've also taken that up to the shoulder, haven't you, that part which you've sewn in. It drapes onto your shoulder proper. Once you've got that to the point where you've fitted that, it might take a little bit of trial and error. It might take a little bit of fitting with, well here's one of those top secrets when it comes to sewing and fitting things. Your wife or your grandmother or your aunt or somebody you'll know all about, it's called safety pins and just straight pins because you pin those in little areas and then you fit your gun in there. How much can you fit your gun in there until you can't get your hand in there comfortably and bring your gun out? and then you open it up just a little bit until you can comfortably get your hand in there and fetch your gun out. Here's another little secret. If you can get your hand in there and bring your gun out, odds are if you're in some goofy situation or moving just right and stop, your gun might jump out if the pocket is shallow. So make the pocket a little deeper and become used to reaching across the depth of the pocket and getting your gun out. And make those adjustments before you make your final sewing there. Okay? Now, once you've hung that side and got comfortable with the gun in a particular area under the ballistic nylon or the heavier cloth hunting vest, you're going to have to wait out the other side. Now, you can go and find an old pair of jeans or you can find some of that ballistic nylon by two feet of it from the big box store right off the bolt there, a bolt, a roll of fabric. Now, this is something that's going to be a little bit harder to do. All of the aforementioned sewing, if you sit down and you have a little hand-eye coordination, you could have done that all by hand. But now the rest of this, in order to make it very uniform, it would be better done on a machine or working up that hand-eye coordination, learning how to sew very straight lines. You take that, as example, down the length of a leg of a blue jean. You cut it off at the knee and you cut it off at, oh, say the ankle. Now, at one end, you take about an inch and you sew it straight 90 degrees, particularly to the fold. If the fold is facing you and the length goes from left to right, the seam is going to go away from you toward the top, which is open. Now, you're going to take one of them 1911 mags because you're loading for a 1911 gun. You can do this with your Beretta and your Beretta mags. You can do this with your Luger. You can on and on and on. I can target name guns off for the rest of the hour. It's going to be a little bit harder to do with your revolver. So we're not talking about wheel guns right now, you guys. But you take that mag and you butt it up to the scene that you've just created, which is 90 degrees to the fold, which is at the bottom, the top being open. And now you've got an envelope like. And you take and you mark that off. Or you safety pin that. or you just straight pin it until you get just enough friction in there, in that pocket that you're trying to create, to contain that magazine. And when you get just enough friction in there that you think it's going to kind of stay there if I'm la-di-da, walking along, or doing jumping jacks, but if I grab it, twist finger and thumb, and pull it straight out, it's going to come out at my beck and call. Now once you've created that space, Guess what? You pull the fabric flat and you measure it with the handy dandy tape measure or the length of your finger to your knuckle and you move that dimension over and you put those safety pins there and you double check the feel of the draw of the magazine from that envelope, that slot that you've just created of fabric. And if it's good and satisfactory and you know it's not going to just jump out, zip that line. I mean, you know, sew that line. Then pull them pins out and check that draw again. Now you can do that 3, 4, 5, 6. If you're about 46 or 48 or 50 in the jacket size, you can lay seven magazines next to each other, you guys. So it wraps almost from the center of your sternum off to almost the side of your ribs. And you know what another good thing you're doing is you're building a little bit of armor there. But also, look at, now if I've built, I'm left handed and I'm going to tell you, my gun carries under my right arm. It's kind of natural, isn't it? Most of you guys that are right handed, I'm the, what do you call it? The anomaly, the spike or whatnot. Most everybody's right handed. They're going to hang their gun under their left arm. And when you reach, you've got your arm, you've got your hand filled, your right hand filled with your gun. You still have your left hand free to reach inside your vest for your next magazine. See how that's worked? Pretty cool for just, well, sitting down and figuring out with a little bit of fabric and a little bit of well, I had, maybe you can take a vest off the shelf and do that. Maybe you could do that with your coat of your three-piece suit or do that with the vest that goes, well, you know, the third part of a vest is the The third part of that three-piece suit is a vest, isn't it? So it's just a little bit of creative thinking. And man, you can hang guns in all kinds of places. And it doesn't even have to be around your torso. Just use a little bit of imagination. And I wanted to do that. Mark, we haven't touched on that in a little bit. And it's that time of year, you guys, when you're going to be having that bit more outer clothing that will use it to your advantage. Because it's good at hiding things. And if you do it right, people will look at you and not perceive you as a threat. Even trained eyes. Mark, I yield the floor to you, sir. I'll be quiet now. Well, integrating that with the weapon, of course, as we know, is counterbalancing with mag slots, mag pockets. And there's a number of different ways to adjust those to help offset weight and weight distribution in general. But the other thing too is as I was pointing out with the carbine mags, this is also true that most every pistol mag is fairly conceivable. 45 slab mags are fairly small by comparison. They're not double stacked, even though they are a thick round. They're carrying a thick round and straight line mags. There's many different ways that you can carry them both. Underneath, say, built into vests, built into coats, and in the process still have additional hangers to carry too where you can put additional mags on the belt. I like carrying lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of pistol mags. That's just me in general. The idea is that if at all possible be as creative as you can, so you can again balance out and distribute the weight. Because you are moving around, you're going to be performing other tasks even if you're just in casual form, you're still having to sit down, you're having to move, and having to adjust something because of weight change, or should say weight shift with the weapon, is something you always want to look at. So the counterbalance set is offered, just like you see on the old, I don't know how many, the term is, it's called a jackass rig. That was one of the first rigs to actually incorporate a fairly decent magazine pouch carrying system. that was underneath the armpit. But in both the jackass rig, the interesting thing is that there was no lower connect suspension system that hung off of the shoulder. It was basically two stirrup type loops that went left and right and then were secured to the front, or actually well secured to the front, left and right if need be with backup suspenders that clipped to the belt or to the pants. Those were an option, those were not necessary. The IDB-Honey, the very thing you're talking about, Donna, is for it to be so casual and so unconnected that it didn't distort the lines of the wearer. The big thing you've got to watch is for printing in the back. And if you're a big guy, you've got a large chest, that's not a problem. But if you're a smaller person, you have to take into consideration if you're carrying the weapon in the horizontal carry combat position. Then what's going to happen is you're going to experience when you're moving the back of that jacket being moved, especially with the suit coat or whatever. Instead, you want to make sure that when you have these multiple layers, you can either take advantage of the concealment that way. A lot of the new coats, by the way, Donna, if you notice, have a bubble back to them to a degree for flexibility. And you know that extra little bit of a three or four inch beveled cut that expands them out a little bit. Also true on the new uniforms, the new combat uniforms like the ACUs and the desert uniforms. If you look at them though, if you pay attention to them, they've gone to a different cut, a different collar, et cetera. The advantage of that is that it was designed for wearing other stuff underneath the blouse, underneath the shirt. But it also is kind of handy when it comes to static equipment that's underneath the blouse tube that might be concealed. One of the things that's always been a challenge is the jackass rigs typically carried the weapon perpendicular to the body. In other words, laying horizontal to the ground. and basically put your hand in the armpit and the gun is already in horizontal space and you can even pull the trigger from the holster and the weapon can be fired through the coat behind you if need be. It is a technique we like to teach people. Or turning your body to the two, meet the threat. That's right. It is something you don't expect. You are like, oh, he is concealing. There you go. I am not concealing. I am just trying to get that barrel lined up. Hold still. I am going to shoot you again. He is turning to run. He is turning to run. I guess maybe not after all. The other consideration there is that, again, because of printing and depending on the size, The traditional shoulder holster configuration was also an option with the jackass rigs in which the weapon is parallel with the length of the body and actually barreled down. Now that option of course changes some of the ability to do what you were just talking about. What you do is you actually in the process you grip the weapon as you turn to appear like you're moving away in reality you're bringing the weapon out of the shoulder holster and then bringing it to horizontal and bump over the trigger as you fire through your coat. I'm sure to lift your arm up. Try to use the magazine's farthest to the rear of your body first, especially if the target is at greater range. Now you have to make a decision on that, but the reason for using the rear stations first is so that as you are more pressed, in other words as an aggressor presses the attack or multiple aggressors press the attack, You are going to want to reduce every nanosecond of time that you can from magazine change to reactivating the slide and do it as quickly as humanly possible. Well, the way to deal with that is to again have an order of consumption when it comes to the magazine, an order of use. And so from the farthest point back, ideally, and then moving forward, which helps to compress the amount of time, the turnaround time, to bringing the gun back up and online after you've emptied it. So that is another thing to consider. Sounds like you might have a caller. What do we have? Hey Mark, this is John in Massachusetts. How are you doing? Thank you, John. You up in there? Yeah. Sorry to be going a little off topic here, but I was curious if you guys happen to have any Colonial Marine contacts in Massachusetts? Well, we do. Actually, I think I've already passed the information on about you to a few other people. I don't know what's going on, but they have to make a decision as to whether they're going to contact you. All right, because I haven't received any contact from the debt. Right. That'll be from them. That's typically how we deal with it. I'll get the information and then I pass it on to the individual units. We'll do what we can there to see if we can get you connected. All right. And the other question I had real quick was trying to put together a basic AK-47 spare parts kit, and I was wondering what you would recommend. I would think it would be the trigger group and the basic springs. The firing pin extractor and ejector. Now the extractor and the ejector are not a problem. Oh, forgive me, the ejector is built into the receiver. So the firing pin and extractor are the two that you can acquire. The ejector is part of the receiver group. But there are a few parts available and one of them actually is a pretty good idea because they have a gas piston that's cheap, cheap, cheap. And let me see if they still have this kit. It was only $4.99. It actually is the cheapest batch of parts and I would recommend getting it immediately because the price has been greater but they probably have a glut of goodies on hand which is why they have come down on the price a little bit. It is www.centerfiresystems.com. Then when you go there, They have package deals, I believe is what the term they use. Let's see if we can find it again. Part kits, package deals. That's it right there. OK, package deals on the left side. Now, when you go there, right in the middle of it, all the AK items pretty much at the top of the page here. Now, if you look, they've got, now think about this. I'm going to read you the package right off the bat. It's a pistol grip, trigger group parts kit, which includes the trigger, sear, hammer and all the pins, right? And it's a total of $4.99. I read that as $5, right? Yeah, that's a pretty cool deal though. That's with the gas piston. Now, the same gas piston is listed right off to the side as a package deal, one of them for $10. So, let's see, which would Mark do? I don't know. I can buy the pistol grip for $8. I can buy the gas piston for $10. Or I can buy the whole package kit for $5. Yes, with all the other goodies. In fact, it comes to about $30 worth of stuff if you buy it separately, but if you buy the whole little package, they're trying to move them out and get them down the road. Now, the gas piston is pretty valuable, but most people don't think about it, and it will take time for the gas piston to be worn down. Okay, but... It is not an if, it is simply a matter of when, how long it takes for that actually to happen because the gas piston system is running through that stamped or extruded tube that's at the front. Progressively, that's going to get a little sloppy. Now, you can live with it and the AK typically will continue to run for a long, long time with that gas piston. But it's nice to know that you have a brand new one sitting right there you can replace the old one with. So I would recommend getting that simply because for $5 you can't beat it the pistol grip It's not likely you'll break it, but I've seen them broken off if they are guess what you unscrew it You put this one in place you're all done The internals like the pins and stuff are just plain handy to have for spares So it's definitely worthwhile there was another package and look and see if they still have it But I think we bought them out I think everybody we got everybody to buy them out if you scroll through their goodies You've got to bounce around with Centerfire. Not everything is in one page. They have their own way of sorting out the list of what does wherever. You go over to Miscellaneous and you'll find a lot of other stuff. You'll find Cleaning Kids, Other. Let's check Other. There's always another one. Other is always fun. I always love looking at Other. I don't need a Gunlock. I don't believe anybody else does, so don't worry about that. But there are many, many pages of other odds and ends goodies listed here. And always go right to the end because usually the last item is something you really wanted, but you just didn't know it was there. They do have a number of AKA. I've got a lot of Some of the new Sega tactical stuff, Sega chokes, and that is about it. They do have a 223 Galil receiver for $350. The best price on that is that one kit for $5 right off the bat. I would buy that right away. This is something we do need to bring up is weapons maintenance. Everybody needs to be buying more cleaning kits. These military cleaning kits are still out there. The HK91 cleaning kit will work with the AKs just fine, and that's a nice little packet, like palletized and a little green case that actually is arched so it sits on your leg. It's out of the back of its arched. It's not flat. They are cheap at a couple dollars a piece and they are HK made. They are nice little, they have a pull through chain, plastic chain, it wears out not the barrel. That is a nice thing. It is a good package, I would get extras of those. Everybody listening I would say the same thing. I brought this up when they started to come in a few years ago. We have cleaned out whole inventories of these things. Some of them have not been replaced so that is a good thing. That means we have got them all. It's a bad thing for everybody else coming up late. But the any .30 caliber kit, especially something that was built for an 18 inch barrel or for 16.5 inch barrel, Those will all interwork with the AK. That shouldn't be a problem at all. I would keep both around simply because again, they're good clean kits. They have the Euro kit, Eastern and Western Euro kits on hand. But scroll down through there and you'll probably find a few other goodies. They did have a stock set, but I noticed that seems to be gone. And the one was cheap, it was a plastic set, it actually was a European plastic set. Those actually I recommend. But if you're looking at $34 or $50, don't worry about it right now. Look around, shop around, there's probably somebody else that has the goodies for a little less. Go ahead now. The other point, I'm sorry John, but the other point is that when we talk about cleaning kits you guys, don't throw out any rags. Even if they're 100% polyester, it'd be better to drag that through the bore than nothing. It'd be better to use that to, you know, sop up this or move that or use it to hold oil while you're applying it here or there than nothing. Yeah, like washcloths, sheets, anything, old socks, underwear, don't throw out any old rags, you guys. Okay, Mark, well, I'll get off now so someone else has a chance to call in. But I was wondering, could you just double check with your contacts and see if they still have my information? Absolutely. I'll have to drop them the letters. I'll have to do it, but I can get that in the mail. No problem. Because I've got a package right here that's already ready to go to the guys on the east coast anyway. Alright, great. Okadoke. Thank you very much, Mark. God bless. Thank you for calling. And I think we have another caller too. Who do we have? Hey Mark and Don, it's Don Secort from Columbus. Hey, Jim from New York, sir. Hey Mark, thanks for the package you sent me. That was really cool. I really appreciate that. I did have a question about it. I guess it's kind of like a psychological weapon. You know the gas and the flag, the don't tread on me flag, right? Yes. I was at a local surplus store picking up a few things here in Columbus and I got a gatston flag and the gentleman at the counter asked me, do you want the regular one or do you want the one with the red bars on it? I haven't seen one until I went to that store, a gatston flag with red marks on it. Do you know what that is? Red bars? Yeah. Is it yellow or yellow? Oh, we have a yellow with a red marker? It is the yellow field. It still has the coiled snake. But it has the three red bars that are running below the snake? That is it. There you go. I have got that. Actually, I have both. I have not thought about that for a while. The only variation on that is that with many of the units, and this is something that there were so many variations on the Gaston Plag. that different companies and different brigades originally had carried and marked their flags. Much like in the Civil War you see where the unit flags were actually marked for certain battles, they did the same thing. Now as far as the notation, I'm probably missing something here because there are at least six variations on the Gadsden going from the beginning through to the end of the war. It was embraced by most of the other militia units by the end of the war in one form or another. The latest one I think would be kind of neat if somebody were to do it as a flag. This is just as a side bar. There is a new patch where the coil snake is striking. Has anybody seen that? I think I might have saw that. It is kind of neat. The title below is Time's Up. I would like to make that as a guest and do it on the guest and field. The flag, the traditional flag configuration and see how many people notice it. Other than that, the three point marker traditionally with modern heraldry represents the three branches of government. With the Gadsden, I don't think that that's relevant. Again, you've got to remember there are different societies too that were within the organization of the militia. I And before actually. And in fact, one of the things that was interesting is showing the many variations. Because flags, the battle flag configuration, most flags are cut in the battle flag configuration we use today. The American flag, for instance, is in a battle banner, a combat banner. It's not in a peace banner configuration by dimension. But most of the flags in phase one of the revolution actually were a square banner. So, you have variations on the Gatsden. Part of this was too because of different units in the field carried that particular size banner because it was more manageable for the Gaidan bearer. A long banner looks really cool until it's hanging around your arm and somebody shish-kabobs you while you're trying to protect yourself. Hey, that kind of hurt. Well, the flag got in the way. What? Yeah, the flag got in the way. Oh, man, it ain't going to happen again. So, there was a reason for the combat banners being the way they were. Almost always the banner bearer himself, the standard was not for show. There was usually a pike on the end of that for a reason. There was a lance or a pike or sometimes a knob, but typically you'll notice there was an edge, and the edge was not dull. I've got a couple of those that are stored away there from way, way back that were given to us by A friend of mine was in the middle of the war with Vietnam Seal. This was stuff that we are saving for the future for certain events. When something happens, we are going to throw a lot of tradition out there. That is one of the things. This particular device is not sharpened to a razor edge, but it is sharpened to a fighting edge. It was off one of the standards. It was pre-Civil War, post-Mexican War, but pre-Civil War we know that. So, it's kind of you. I had one thing I just wanted to mention to you, Mark and Don, while I have both of you on my air here. It's going to sound weird and kind of cheesy, and I might get a little bit of grief from some parts of the country on this, but Mark and Don, you guys are the reason I'm where I am in my professional career. And, spent... six years in college getting a couple of different degrees and in 2008 when I graduated it was hard to find a job anywhere mainly because of my skill level. You know how they don't want to hire people who are smart anymore. When I went in for a job interview and Mark you know where I work at and the final question that they asked me in the interview was Why should we hire you? I told them that I wanted to be a solution to a problem to whatever problem that they had and that was the sole question that they hired me on and that's what you guys taught me and so for anyone else out there who's new to this program, this movement, etc. That's the main idea that I got from listening to Mark and Don and if I hadn't I swear if I hadn't listened to you guys, I wouldn't be able to pay my utility bills for the last year. And so I just want to say thank you and I appreciate what you've done for me. Thank you for coming. And that's really cool. I'm sorry I'm getting kind of teary-eyed here. Oh, you know what? Here's the thing. We can reverse that. We're the reason you go to work. Yeah. I'm sorry. We just sent you to work. I appreciate it. Thank you for the comment. I'm going to go and shoot one out here and see if you guys need to do research on this or not. There's these new Springfield XDM models that I guess were a government contract that I guess from Lichtenstein, Blatsonstein. the rights to or something or the contract got shifted to an Israeli company or something like that. Wow, what a surprise. Yeah, and the XDM's look pretty cool. I guess they're like the next generation of Springfield XD9's. And if you go on the Springfield website, it has the whole bio and some PDF's there. And if you guys can cover that on a next As a matter of fact, one of our friends does the research in that area and I just have a packet from him. I haven't gone through the latest batch and I guarantee he may have. Typically they'll even send him a sample. and they take it out because he does instructional courses. I haven't even had a chance to get the disc and look at it right here. It's got it in my hand, it's a second disc down there. It's got like 20 hours to watch right now. Or read actually, it's going to be about that long. But that's what he does. Whatever we can find out, I'll see what I can do. I don't see them being, first of all by the very nature of the company, I don't see them doing any shoddy work. The biggest issue is whether or not it is going to fit in it. You know how that is as far as the engineering goes. I have noticed this, there are ideas that have come and gone. I mentioned this this morning, like in the NAN 45s. Years ago, nobody would do a double stack 45. Out of the blue, Star built a double stack, basically it was a Brigadier. I had one for quite some time. It's now in Strategic Reserve. It's still technically around, but it's not anywhere near me. It's along with about, what I think I'd call it, eight magazines. And of the eight, only three are factory and the rest are after market. Well, nobody else did that for almost 15 years. And all of a sudden, everybody got the bright idea, look, we can do double stack 45. But mostly where they get it is they went over and did it in these small, stubby, you know, cropped and chopped .45 backups and for off-duty guys who wanted something with .45 ACP. The ideas have come and gone and part of this goes back to something I was taught 30 years ago by a person who was a gun engineer. He said, you know, if you have the seven black books of the armory, then you know everything that has ever been done with firearms. And there are. There are seven books of engineering. They call them the black books. And it's everything you could conceivably think of that's ever been done. I mean, we know, you know, dumb brings up the someday automatic revolver. The answer to a question was never asked. How complicated can you make it done? Better hold it steady. But it works. It does work. Yeah, hold it steady, push forward and it works. But somebody thought the idea up and back in the day we were wealthy enough. See, there's the key. Society was wealthy enough. We were able to test it out. Somebody tried it. Somebody had the ability to market it. And a few people bought them. Somebody did. They didn't just sit on the shelf. But the same is true in every aspect of engineering that we see with regard to technology. I see a lot of the stuff reappearing or reemerging from the research phase of about 1950 to 1955. The French were especially creative at that period of time. Don't ask me why. The Philippe Algiers says we're working, the wine was flowing, and they were going to shoot the Indochinese very soon. So, they came up with all these new ideas and they cranked them out physically. But every year they made something new. They also fielded it, which is the other thing. They actually switched out to it. Why? I think they get this hair up their hind end. But when it comes to most of the variations, what you're seeing right now, tweakings are because of direct field experience again. You know what I mean? We are going to see this more and more for the next 6-7 years, maybe up to once we stabilize the drug production in Afghanistan, then we will get away from Afghanistan. You see how that works? Once we get it up to maximum production, which we almost do right now, we have more dope coming out of Afghanistan than ever before in its history. We will probably leave pretty soon. We may. Probably not, but we may. If we did, it would take four to five years for the industry to go back into brain fart and for the government to go back into peacetime slash we don't need to listen to common sense experience anymore. During that period is when the next renaissance in innovation will take place. where all the lessons learned. In other words, now everybody has got a breather. When you are shooting at people, you are getting chased in the woods, or you are running across mountains, or you are heading through streams, and you are running across deserts, you don't have a whole lot of time to sit down and go, hey, I came up with this idea, and I sit here with a file, and I did this, and I scraped down this, and I got this to work better. And you know what? It came up online fast or anything else. Well, he may have come up with the idea. Hopefully he lives through his experience. But the problem is where it gets from the idea person through to application and then through the Committee of Monkeys into production. Private sectors are always ahead of government for that reason when it comes to product. Now the only problem is, as you just said, that it looks like the company that again, they produced it and then all of a sudden the Israelis get the contract? Yeah, from what I understand. Springfield had got commissioned by the government, the Department of Governmental Destruction, to make a 45 that could withstand sand, like so for Iraq and Afghanistan. And so they printed up, I believe it was like a half a million copies of their 45. And then they have a 3.5 inch barrel, 9 millimeter, that was also in the XDM line. And then once Springfield had everything already ready to go, then the government decided, well, they're not going to pay on Springfield for it. And then they commissioned Blatson-Stein Holdings, or whatever company it was. I know it was an Israeli company. I don't know which one. But they gave the contract to them and then said, hey, we're going to go with these people anyway. And Springfield was like, well, we have all this What are we going to do with it? And that thing is solid. I put like a thousand rounds through the same barrel within a month when I had money to spend before I went to school. And I just kept saying, I want to see how many rounds I'm going to put through this before it jams or something decides not to go out the barrel. I had bought it from a Legion of Merit winner in Gulf War I. He was a friend of mine. He went ahead and sold it to me. He took it overseas with him. The thing still works like it's brand new. I call it Lucille. My other family members, my in-laws mainly, are afraid of me when I show up. The thing is amazing. And And the Polytech 45s that came through, a lot of people were looking at them with a little skew. Hey, they were making those before they started sending them to us because they were clandestinely dumping those into places for their rent revolution operations or for their own clandestine use. That's why when they started making the M14s, they could make them so quickly because they make counterpart weapons to every country. Most countries do this. We did this. We built AKs during Vietnam and we made AKs afterwards at Lake City Arsenal. They were completely sterile. I've seen more than enough of them in service, actually in government arsenals. They were held and reserved for special forces units, SEAL team groups, things of that nature. They were issued out as needed. I carried a regular AK, but mine was a Chinese defense rifle that was incredible. Internally, it was one of the best AKs I have ever handled and ever fired. I actually used an AK more than used an M16 for the first couple of years that I was in service. I was trained on the M14, used the AK, and then of course eventually ended up with a hydromatic M16. The 1911 itself, in its regular configuration, the only reason they had to figure out, here's what it gets me guys, they tightened the .45 up and they tightened the .45 up and they tightened the .45 up. They made it a tack driver, which was already a reasonable combat pistol, but they may want to make it a tack driver. Well, in doing that, they took all of the swap out of the weapon that was intentionally built for the conditions they're in. Think about it, the World War I, if you look at the World War I qualification test for the 1911, not a single hand gun built today could pass the test except for that weapon right, the weapon as it was built. The 1917 revolvers, both Colt and Smith and Watson, didn't do badly either. But again, what were they? Big old end frame, big old sloppy notch and groove. They had lots of room, they had lots of space. If something got in it, they could beat it out, turn around, pull the trigger and put a hole in you. If they couldn't pull the trigger, they'd walk up and beat the living snot out of you in a brawl. There are some good ideas. I like the little larger, for instance, slide control and the safety. Just a little larger would be nice. They went a little bad eared on some of them so that they actually, when you're in operation, you can accidentally engage things you shouldn't. And that has happened, so people have learned lessons in engineering there. Otherwise, the happened extrusion option is the only other thing that is really unique. It has been the next step, but it was purely a machining cost issue. With CNC technology, that issue has been killed. Today, whatever feature you want to add, it is a matter of program, add, click, click, click, click, and boom. There you go. Let's see what that looks like. In fact, today R&B is so much easier than I respect. My dad was in Tool and Die. And my grandfather was too. And that was back in the day when everything was hand. And when you did prototyping, it was the same way. Every custom cut was always an anxiety. You would measure, you would check, you would measure, you would check, you would measure. You'd pick the tool up and then you'd go, nah, I better check it one more time. My dad said, you know, the problem with being tool and die is it was the most expensive trade to be in because of what you needed to do the trade. You know, carpentry, plumbing, electrical, even just regular machine work. You got a lot more leeway. But with a tool and die man back in the day, the tool box you had to have, the crib box you had to have was just outrageous because every machine was every tool was a precision tool. It was also heartburn and all these guys had high blood pressure. Now with CNC all you do is program it in and if you think, hey I've got a better idea, let's go another 1 6 of an inch wider, let's go about 1 1 8 of an inch thicker and let's add a cut on the other side. What about let's do an epinecular safety on that slide too? Let's try that. Today you could crank those out and you know how long it takes. If you watch Orange County Chopper, they waste how many minutes making up custom wheel rims. And you watch that CNC machine go every time they make a custom spoke, that could be a 45 frame. Well I did sign up for the AGI basic course for the gunsmithing. Great. So I looked at that and I heard Gene on you guys' show program. about an hour or two that it was on and then I talked to someone there at AGI for about an hour and 45 minutes and my ballistics instructor was dunking long. Oh yes. So I just had to keep the trade up and eventually, probably, it was probably going to be after the war, but I'm going to be the guy that makes the Schmidlab Mark 1. the multi caliber rifle or something like that. It's a great terrain rifle. We've got a lot of good things to look forward to. It's getting close to the hour here. It's good to talk to you guys again. Hopefully I can talk to you guys again next month. Absolutely. Thank you. Again, thank you for the compliment. We appreciate that. Thank you. 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