Mark Koernke hosted a discussion on October 26, 2010, focused on establishing sovereign communities and alternative energy systems as preparation for economic collapse. Guests including Pat, Dave, Larry, Jeff, and others shared experiences building off-grid settlements with solar, wind, hydro, and propane-based power systems. The group discussed water access challenges, infrastructure costs for sustainable communities (approximately $5 million), alternative refrigeration technologies, Edison nickel-iron batteries, and barter-based economies. Weather anomalies were analyzed, including unusual wind patterns and cloud formations attributed to HAARP technology. The conversation emphasized community self-sufficiency, minimal bureaucracy, and the importance of producing surplus resources for trade.
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There is a meeting at the restaurant on Sunday, a meeting at the restaurant on Sunday, a meeting at the restaurant on Sunday. And, just a quick reminder to you about the date. Well, first of all, it's O-Dark 30. Oh, no, it's not. But it is, it's getting up there. I'll tell you what, it is October 26th, second year of Fabian Socialist and Soviet Socialist Occupation of America with a K. That means it's Tuesday by the way. 2010 Old Earth Count. So we've got guests with us right now and this is rolling over also from the last hours. Everybody gets a chance to kind of plug in and we'll extend what's been happening, talking about sovereign societies. individual villages, cities, or retreats that are being put together in a number of different ways. This is just one of many different examples of what's happening in the Patriot community, but also across America in general in preparation for the planned destruction and meltdown of the U.S. economy and the American system in general. So we've got to be ready for what the bad guys are going to try and create. Instead of creating a vacuum or everybody going, oh, we need a war. How about if we just step away from the bad guys? That's something everybody has been talking about for a long time. A lot of people have done it personally, but we need to do it on a wider scale so that when the time comes things don't work out the way everybody expects. That's part of the big picture and the big plan. Now, I think we've got Pat here on the line. Yes, I am, and I've got Thunder Halcliff with me as well. Excellent. And we've also got Dave here, I think, too. Good evening. And who else do we have with us? Anybody else? Larry Lawson. There we go. We got Larry with us. Larry, oh sorry about that. I wasn't sure if you were there. And again, what's the situation? What's the weather like down there in Indiana, Larry? Oh, did we lose Larry again? There we go, Jeff from Tennessee, right? There we go. And Larry still with us? Well, we had Larry for a moment, but I don't know what that was. Larry's dropped off twice. He must be having problems with that. He might be having phone problems that happen on occasion with a link, especially we got... We have a weather front that moved through the area here through both Indiana and Michigan. I understand there's been some major storm fronts in some areas. We just got some wind and then we did get a lot of... Well, we gave him a lot of rain. We just got, you know, the perfect balance of rain. Now we're back pretty much to neutral again. to make it another wave of that that's expected it's fall now we're heading towards actually november guys really days away and only days away we quit from the election by the way or we can only changing the pictures of the titanic we'll see what happens there but guys uh... again let's introduce uh... each person introduce themselves here so everybody was being as an idea let's get this up to speed fast uh... we got to go here we go we got larry well again now real quick with a uh... report from now you're with you guys get well that weather front the case delivery it was very interesting mark i saw the thing before and i knew that they had predicted heavy rains before you could literally see the uh... uh... what are they called the uh... high wind front up above us the jet stream i can see that they both way to the east uh... i knew there were high winds involved it's a very high winds coming And the only thing we got was about 10 or 15 minutes of super duper high winds. Literally in our area of Spencer, Indiana, shared off the roof of a local storage place, other places around the state, the high winds, and other damage. But again, Jesse Ventura and others have talked about HARP, how they've been able to manipulate the jet stream with HARP. These things are not an accident. It was interesting. We had a bit of rain, we got some thunder, not much precipitation. We had precipitation in my neck of the woods for a month. For about 5-10 minutes, we did get some rain and that's about it. It was very interesting this morning, Mark, but not a natural event. Again, something I was saying yesterday about weather watching. I've been out through the whole of the evening here for the last couple of nights, still about 4 in the morning. And one of the things that we were watching is the cloud patterns, which are very interesting. Here we ended up with a circular lens system, which I've seen in other environments, but I've never seen in the fall here in Michigan. But it was very fascinating the way this came in waves and effects and the fact that it's not what we got. It's what we didn't get. We had ball slash artillery lightning, but with no sound. Absolutely no noise, no thunder. We didn't get any rain either, of course, here. Now all around us, it's almost like literally we were in the eye of the storm or in the middle of the Coriolis. On the other hand, it's almost like we're the impact area for whatever technology and everything else was buffered out at the attitude I get. And watching the cloud patterns especially, we had three levels of cloud patterns. We had a high moon, remember guys we've been having a full moon or almost a full moon for the last couple of days so we had tremendous illumination without any support. We took night vision and specced everything, photographed everything and it really looked interesting then. very unnatural patterns which I thought was most fascinating. So again stuff to look at, things to watch for. At the very least it's unique weather patterns. We get these cyclically. This is the other thing to consider too just like everything else is that you know about every 20, 50, 75, how many years we have another weather cycle that we need to pay attention to and that ties in with everything else. And that's something that the you know remember the bad guys have been keeping track and are trying to keep us from paying attention and keeping track. So we just need to be better at it. We did get some rain, enough to soak everything up here finally today. But last couple days threatening every step of the way down the road three to five miles, rain in all directions, except for right here. Now we haven't been droughted out like you may have been right there, Larry. But it's interesting we've been watching how the weather has been stayed back. And it's not just at one point of the compass. It's virtually in all points of the compass. Anyway, just a little quick weather report there. I wanted to make sure everybody understood that thing that came through. A lot of people saw it on the national news. I thought it was rather interesting. I saw a glimpse of a couple of private airplanes that were squashed by, obviously, the wind. They weren't crushed by the buildings. They were just crushed by high winds. And I'm thinking the owners, if they had proper weather insurance, are probably going, my plane did what? Oh, right! I mean, oh, that's terrible because, you know, number one, most of these people can't afford to fly the planes. The insurance is out through the ceiling, and they can't sell them to anybody because nobody has the money to buy them. So to have a, you know, shall we say Hebrew lightning, although in this case you can't really make it happen, but, you know, to have a terrible weather accident to your insured piece of aircraft, well, probably they were happy. Anyway, other stuff happening around the nation real quick. 28th, the regimental combat team, Colonial Marine Militia have a military ball coming up here shortly and it's a fall family event, fall meal. I understand on top of that it's going to be a potluck thing. They've got many, many, many people cooking different things. So check the colonialmarinemilitia.4mg.com page. colonialmarinemilitia.4mg.com. There will be notices there, 28th RCT. Get hold of the G3 coordinating officer and the NCOs. We'll let you know what's going on. The ladies are taking care of coordinating the event. That's what I have so far and the rest will be posted. Guys, let's do a quick overview. Introduce everybody that can hear my voice right now. You've heard Larry and Mark, but who else do we have here? Let's do it this way. Mark will do it this way. Pat, Dave, and let's see who else we have. Jeff's still there, right? Pat, you have a person with you two to go right ahead. Gentlemen, I'll start on that. Go ahead, please. Okay, how are you doing tonight? We're glad to be back on the show and glad to be sharing a message. I think it's very important to the people. As I said, I have Thunder Elk with me. Randy and Greg Chafee with me as well here at our little to share with everyone tonight. We love the sharing of information and it's nice to know that the people out there that are realizing there's alternative regime that we're living in right now and good to see that maybe we're the solution problem. So I'd like to pass away. Thank you for allowing me to... Very good. And we got Dave, go ahead please. Good evening gentlemen. Yeah, for Larry's sake, gee. uh... we've had rain sunday thirty seven degrees for high right all day yesterday well rained out now uh... fifty four for high today mostly sunny until this afternoon that became cloudy five seventy weird what water levels waters down two-and-a-half inches for what we yesterday which was flood stage it's still half-inch above flood but normal level uh... weird weather yesterday what highest it reached the entire year not normal normally that's springtime that it would go to that water level not fall yes we last hour we were discussing property for people who wish to work for what we've got uh... it's our time at the intelligence report uh... last tuesday last thursday at last thursday on the uh... hammering the New World Order was Spike Kimmons, as well as this past hour was Spike Kimmons. We have continued the discussion of establishing Covenant communities or nations, returning of the O'Hooley-Hooley nations or other nations. In fact, back in September when I was up at Akwesasne, we had a, there was an interview, a news interview, which I thought was really interesting. The one gentleman up there had recorded this. And so at one of the meetings he brought that in and showed. And this reporter was asking some government bureaucrat down in Washington a bunch of things about establishing of governments or nations and various things what it takes to set up nations. And then he got down to a strange question and they asked them, the government official, well who can set up or establish a nation? And the government official looked at him sort of silly and says, well, anyone can do that. Oops, foot and mouth. People, anyone can set up a government just like anyone can set up a militia in your own back door. The hippies and the flower children of the 1960s and 70s, they set up their own governments. But then, too, so have the Amish, the Mennonite, Lakers, and the Black Muslims, for the most part, I, self, law, and master, have set up their own little governments as well. But we're talking about setting up completely free governments controlled by the monsters in the district of criminals. And that's where we're trying to head and show people the various ways of being able to move forward both on the corporate side of the looking glass as well as being able to do things on the real side of the looking glass and how to protect yourself or hedge yourself from the corporation. I'll tell you what, hold on right there where you are because we were doing introductions and we were getting into a book. Okay. Gee, I think I said introduce yourself. I didn't say hmm. Okay, now we have also Jeff here. Jeff, jump in there. Give everybody some background real quick. This is Jeffrey Hills, past reporter with the Emerson Review, co-founder many, many years ago with Michigan Electors Association. Also, I'm a member of the Tuscarora clan with my chief Pat Holly. Tennessee, 16, tornado watch, straight line winds, 50 mile an hour. There you go. So it's been pretty interesting. So we're getting fall weather all over the place. This is our little burst of summer burp before we get into the depths of depression and cold weather because I've been watching the fuzzy caterpillars here, guys. And the fuzzy caliputters are usually three colors, like tan, black, tan. Well, there's two colors we're finding in mass here, either all black or all tan, but mostly all one color right now, with a little bit of the odd color, the different color between. That tells me. a really deep winter. We've got some major weather perhaps coming, at least some unique weather. Larry, you're down there of course in Indiana and you've been off the grid too. This is one of the things we really are focusing on here with this is a combination of things, both economics and for the communities, for the people working together. Law, which is what Dave was talking about, how do we manage things because we want minimal bureaucracy and we want to be able to enjoy our liberty. But technology is another thing. You've been off the grid for quite some time pretty well, experimenting, testing, and actually openly use. I mean, everything that we talk about, you openly use it every day, don't you? All right, can you hear me, Mark? You're sounding great. Go ahead. This is 1995, about 2,500 rubber batteries. I charge them up once a week, you diesel generator. I had to replace one Saturday that works on solar. My generators have talked about these solar panels back about 90 units of solar panels. They were a flexible type. They are no longer manufactured in any place now. And I finally put them out. Solar panels are DC power. That wasn't quite enough, but I modified the 30 amps depending on the half or less folks. So clouds are a big better. In Indiana, we see mostly cloudy weather. These solar panels will charge up your batteries directly through a DC solar charger. This inverter is manufactured. I do have another one as a spare. Dynamics, sun moves in the sky, the trees. So that changes the dynamics you get. It's been very interesting. I do highly recommend that you get panels if you can. If you're in or near one of the bigger cities, they're putting up solar panels all around here. For the whole week, Indianapolis is, solar panels down in the ass, you've got something very handy to use. It's been interesting, and I find the power that we use, we use a small, small flat screen TV now, using notebook computers. LED lamps. LED lamps now come as bright as halogen lamps, you know what you want, and they use just LED floodlights for the act that you can reduce. Most critical here is each one of the people that you're listening to has to deal with alternate energy. Dave, you're looking at hydro. Guys, Pat, you're actually into a number of different areas, aren't you up there? Yeah, well, we actually are using solar. We have the process. gas underneath the territory. We are using water power as well as a funnel system as we are on the Black River. And we use wind energy as well. We have two windmills set up and we're hoping to get a five kilowatt before the fall goes over. Things we found is we also have a radio station up here that we're kind of on a renegade basis and it's on the air, not the internet. One of the things that have to do is we got linear amps and we have port and well so. We've been stocking up on CB radios and as Jeff just recently told us, we needed to get a ham radio. That's one of the things that we're looking at here. Manufacturing here, we buy out these, a lot of cooking. We use that to recharge our batteries. At this point, I would say about 60% of the territory. Yes, jump right in there, please. Head down, head downstate here in a couple of days. Been up looking through and building ups that we've been dealing with and preparing for, getting ready to prepare for. I'm glad to be on the show and glad to be part of The other option we looked at is the propane, but we looked at changing the orifices and actually using natural gas because of the services that these power sources are supplying. You sure can. We'd love that Jeff. That's why we said it. So cool. Right ahead. Well, under the tribal activities and services that see services, Council, the jurisdiction, the newsletter, bonus center, and also the state of... Again, the list behind this is to come up with a checklist of things that need to be done. Variations on that, depending upon who you are, obviously need to be taken into consideration. Location is as much, you know, we're looking at several different backgrounds here, for instance, with the people that are calling in tonight. In Tennessee where you are, you've got a lot of unique terrain. However, you went into a piece of property that was completely blank. In other words, your building, whatever is going to happen there, you're making happen, right? Correct. So you have an opportunity, whatever you can do. Like Larry, did Larry develop in of course, you could use different technologies as he's gone off the grid and gone into independent processes like this. What's the most common problem you run into down there where you are? Well, number one, this land here is hard to obtain water. And we're on a water line, which we're actually in a very remote area. This town does sell us water. So we did have access to water, but the wells here, when I talked to the founder there, he said that the good water in this area is very, very slim. You're going to end up with sulfur and then you're going to have to go from that, cleansing it, and very expensive. So water is always a worry. So we're working on the gutters on the buildings and for storage tanks. There's a lot of top water that runs, but of course that's running to cow land. The straight line winds and the solar capability, you've got both of those which, you know, we'd have probably had an airplane if they had the propeller running today. But you know, those asks, the main concern that I have is literally if this budgetary system goes upside down, this town only sells water. That can be good or bad. 600 or 700 miles of lines. So it's a concern. Let's not forget that water is life. So the one thing, in fact, water, electricity, these are priority services to be maintained down the road. Electricity will fall first because typically it's above ground. Water grid, depending upon what they're using for power supply for the pumping stations and systems, whether or not they have backups or whether or not they would prioritize service to them, will determine how long the water continues to function. So, that's one of the things to think about there. Now, on that note, combining water with the idea of electricity, Dave, up in your end, you guys are looking at hydro, right? Did we lose Dave again? Mark. Hello? Oh, what do we have? Yeah, George and Tex, I just got one question. I'm doing an experiment. I have a couple of junker cars that the engine is blown, pulled into my lot. I got a couple of solar panels I bought at truck stops and I got those refrigerators that go in the trucks that you plug in the cigarette lighter and all that stuff. Right off DC power, right? Yes. But I was thinking about using the solar panels, using the cars charging system to charge the batteries and taking the alternators out and using a fan from an outside air conditioner compressor and making that into a windmill. Mark, can I jump in? What's that? I'd like to jump in on that. Those smaller refrigerators, that's what you're speaking about. Did you get into the truck stop? Yeah, I'm a truck driver. You got to be those small refrigerators. I had to pick one of those up when we first arrived here because my father's a diabetic and trying to keep the insulin cool. And those units there have to keep that thing running. constantly running back and forth. We had to supplement with ice. We could not supply enough with one solar panel, also running a truck and charging the battery. We could never keep that thing operational. Probably in a semi where you had maybe a bigger collar system, it was a great time to make sure that my father remained safe with his medications. Also, too, on the refrigeration, gentlemen, I guess apparently nobody here seems to be aware, but in travel trailers, motor coaches and stuff. They have what is propane and electric, could flip fly to the other. When one fails, the other one kicks in. Those, believe it or not, in your travel trailers, they usually only have as big as seven cubic inch, but you can actually now buy units like them, 15 top words of 21 cubic inch in propane, $2,500 or more. that becomes a more efficient way as Larry was saying about the electric operate but but we were kerosene and those kerosene refrigerators are paid down in ohio uh... if anybody's not aware of that that's what a lot of people they're using uh... fifteen cubic foot uh... kerosene operated based liquid that uh... recirculate will flame you know playing jerry cold Well that's the way these things work. It doesn't care if it uses flame from propane, flame from like the other guys said you get on natural gas, or the heat from an electric coil. Back again you're using a lot of refrigerators, got 24 inches wide. You know about a normal refrigerator, they'll use about a grill sized tank a month in a warm weather food cool. uh... you don't have to pay the twenty five hundred dollars look around here and there are people that will refurbish these of course there's uh... are between but i know you're in india we have a guy that's not a bad deal new uh... active event of things will last potentially five to eight years after what you have to find some of the old galvanized steel ones potentially lasting death lolly so i mean if you can store up propane you can ever for a duration for quite some time And the Kerosene propane, the alternative dual fuel systems, in most cases are, again, they're going to be a little smaller, although the Kerosene, as you're pointing out, the ones are actually household size. One of the advantages is these also are easier to transport if you wanted to make them portable in the future. Consider the possibility of having to move material. A smaller packaged refrigerator means that if you stock it full of material and you do have to move it, keeping the doors duct taped, you can move from one location to the next and secure everything accordingly. Use it as a nice chest, temporary ice chest, et cetera, but it's manageable. It can be picked up. Something just to think about, making it man-packable or at least palatized is a plus when you look at the possibility of having to re-camp someplace else. In other words, have to pick up and move from the site that you're at depending upon what may develop in the future. The idea is to take as many of these enemies slash technologies with us or make them so that they're Easily assembled, easily used, easily disassembled, and easily reused in other locations. Most of the altered energy technology is actually applied that way. It's pretty user friendly. It's almost always modular right now because they know that there are some companies that are selling just certain components. I would point this out for all of you guys listening, grab your pen and paper and for all the guys that are in this little conference right now because I want to pass this contact number on. years ago Edison developed a special battery pack called Edison batteries. Now one of our friends, Captain Monahan, has been on the air talking about these and we have different sources for them around the country but the original Edison batteries were made almost a hundred years ago guys. How did he test them for reliability? Well he developed the battery to a particular degree and in fact he sent originally he built them, sent a bunch of them out, sold them, but then found out he didn't like the original design quite the way it was working. So he went back into the research lab, built a new battery, took it over to the window on the first floor and dropped it out the window. Had the engineers bring it back in and then test it to see if it worked. Once they found out if there was anything that needed to be tweaked or reinforced or made tougher, he had the technicians walk the battery over to the second floor, up to the second floor, and toss it out the window. This is an actual test that they did. Now, once things broke on the battery the second time, they re-engineered the battery where anything was weak or appeared to be a problem, and then threw it out the window again. When something broke a second time or something unique happened amazing these were big batteries. These are not small These are like the flat left the forklift batteries that were being spoken about earlier Anyway, the actual cells are smaller, but they were done in banks The point is by the time he was done Edison came up with a battery that is incredibly robust Will keep a charge for decades It is very, very reliable. It is not cheap. They were never super cheap, but they were also very reliable and very durable. The railroad companies bought massive numbers of these. We have a bank of these over on the other side, actually another facility right now that were recovered from a scrapyard where they were dropped off and they had been sitting probably for 20 years, guys. They had not been on a charge at all. Putting the meter on them, almost every cell still held a charge. Now these batteries are very durable. They're called Edison batteries. You can look up the research on them. You'll find out more if you do a search. But one company has them. The bad part is they're made in Communist China. And they are a nickel iron battery that was developed more than 100 years ago by Edison himself. B utility free is the name of the company. That's B utility free. All one word. 1-4-1-4-9 West County Road 26. Yes, that's a multiple. Be utility free. Next line is 1-4-1-4-9 West County Road 26. Fort Lupton, Colorado 80621-1985. That's Fort Lupton, Colorado 80621-1985 Their phone number is 888-320-9211 That's 888-320-9211 That's 888-320-9211 The website is sales at symbol B utility free all one word sales at B utility free dot-com sales at B E UT I L I T Y F E E dot-com They're out of country phone number is nine seven zero seven eight five 6451. That's 970-785-6451. These batteries are incredibly durable. They will take and hold the charge longer than any other battery in existence. They're old earth technology. We don't have a whole lot of reports on the CHI-COM solution to them, but they're obviously being built. The Chinese are using them. They have been basically replacing probably systems they've had for 100 years in place, and they still haven't changed out if they're smart. But again, Edison batteries, they're nickel, iron. If you guys want to do a search, I'm sure you can find other companies carrying them, but this is one that we've already checked on. We know that they have them available. They cost a little more, but one of the things, the history of these batteries are such that they are very durable and they survive pretty much any environmental condition. The railroad companies use these because they could be left in extreme remote locations with little or no maintenance. and they can be rebuilt or they can be actually, there's general maintenance that's done on the batteries every so often. All of that's part of the cyclic process and these batteries can be reused over and over and over again. So there's a whole bunch of good write-ups on this. You do a search on them, they're called Edison batteries. Anyway, not enough for me. I'm on the air all the time. Guys, what else have we got? What have we been looking at here since the last time we're up on the air? I know we've had a bit of a chance for the brains to lock together here. Pat, Go ahead, Jeff. Go ahead, Jeff. Go ahead, please. Okay, I was wondering if Pat could bring his seat on the membership and so we could have listeners on what we're planning on doing so we can transfer this information, the streams. And also, I'd like to make a recommendation on a book. And I think it's Cody London. He's the pick that up. I wish I'd have had that book. and it's really heard any survival trains this next one may have but let me throw over the patch and explain uh... how we're going to transfer this information and membership already has a pack at the back of that would be able to talk about the uh... travel shows trying to uh... use campers and take over great law of peace is that anyone that do the great tree but something we need to get to because the apartheid colonial governments as we go today have They want to divide and conquer people by things like the refugee act. They like all these acts, the naturalization act, the Indian act, federally in the blood quantum. What they like to do is a community-minded thing where a group of like-minded people come together. It can be anyone. It can be many types. So people can welcome people in on varying degrees of Indian blood and there are provisions for people. They come in that socially, politically, and spiritually. want to walk the path with us. And what it comes down to is there's two to row wampum, the Goswimta. You have the way of the Mayflower, which would be the way of the corporate, the Admiralty jurisdiction we live in, and the way of the canoe, relationship with each other. And it's about not taking advantage of each other, it's about working together. It's about communities. And there's a total about there just to house on the terrarium, help each other. It means if someone didn't have food, we gave them some of ours. Little principles we've lost with the society. Oh, did we lose the guys? I'm still here. Oh, I don't know why, but we got... Okay, we're open. Oh, the pack got cut off for a minute. Hopefully they'll link right back with us here, guys. We've got the right idea. Dave, real quick here, I want to shift in a little bit, just for a moment, we may get them right back here in a second. Dave, hydroelectric, you guys are looking at that up and down, aren't you? Yeah, because we have a massive amount of water fall. We're looking at if we can install the generators, which are quite expensive, $50,000 for the eight kilowatt hours with the water flow that we have at this water level. Putting in wood generators because there's a rock lead and there's nothing up there because the trees out. Putting windmills up there would be just, I think, weirdly producing as much as 100 kilowatt hours here. That makes for a sustainable community. Most important with all of these guys, and again, as we're talking about, being able to share food or being able to share whatever, we have to have the reserves in place. We have to impact even energy. One of the things, the movie itself, as all these dead disaster into the world movies have terrible flaws, except maybe the world warrior, even there the tires are only going to last so long. You better have lots of tire patches. You have a drift, especially the longer you get from any manufacturing. But the idea that can you charge it with a battery? Remember that? And it's like, yeah, sure, it'll cost you such and such. And so he's trading. They're bartering for things. Guys, that is a service. You're not going to scout people, but what's interesting is it's just like a gas station. How did gas stations come about? Couldn't people go to the gas company and buy a bunch of gas and put it on the shelf and use it when they wanted to? Yes, they could, but it became very convenient to have an infrastructure in place. And unlike today, where now you have the monopolies back in your face killing off all the little guys, it used to be anybody could put a filling station up. Now consider this the same way. Down the road, paths of commerce change. Think about this. The rivers were the commerce, both for the Indian nations and for the general population of all the world. If you look at the city grids of a thousand years ago, there was a very different way that they were established. I think we got Pat back. Do we have him there? We got Pat back. I guess I didn't like what I was saying and they zapped me. There we go. Okay. Jump in there right where you stopped. Anyway, we're talking about sharing and the idea we have to have reserves and we have to have resources so we can share. We can't just be producing enough. We need to have the ability to produce excess. That way we can barter, trade, exchange, sell, whatever you have to do. Go ahead. Yeah, the main thing, though, too, Mark, is realizing that most people, it's where the hippies fail. Today, to maintain infrastructure, you're looking at about $5 million, so therefore, the community must have some source of energy or something by which it can raise the money without taxing the people And that's the real key here because if you have the renewable energy or some source coming in, because to maintain just a basic small community, you're looking at about $5 million for the infrastructure for operations. And most people never take that in consideration. Well, Dave, I agree with you on the infrastructure there, as we were saying earlier. As far as the infrastructure, What we look at is what we can produce. We have a portable saw mill that we hire out. We don't even cut our own wood, do we guys? We have a lot of friends that help us out. Everything we do, we rely on on faith model. We were in the back a lot of money to do this type of thing, and possibilities and the potential to do that still. A lot of the infrastructure We have a medical doctor from Ontario that's on his way here right now. We are looking at different avenues of opening a healing center from the main territory, and that'll raise funds because people that can't afford health care, we will provide it to them, but people that can pay for their insurances will be able to create some sustainability. They become part of a community. People say, hey, we can come up there and we can get some I know Thunder's a Reiki master and he's worked on a number of the people here locally and about tremendously. For example today, we almost didn't make it one minute before the show, we made it back here. We picked up three furnaces and we designed this little idea of putting a little room and making it airtight. And the tide core down last year and they hauled up here in the dark. It's heating about 1,500 square foot home. There's a lot to be said through donations. a lot to be said to look at the natural resources, different things. We saw a lot of the vegetables we grow in a market. Someone here that repairs, you know, it's not the quickest that does do it. The Chafee brothers, they've helped us get a lot of heavy equipment in here either to use or they've just left by the goodness of their husk to maintain our roads and everything. And if we get snowed in, they make the drive up and they plow us out. They're not working, they bring us one of theirs. And they do it all out of the goodness we've got for receipt, not yet anyway. close here on the infrastructure folks in any building of any community one there needs to be an office that's the cost money eight eight community center or a long house lost money and you must maintain fire she has pat has said emergency medical and you must make it that means you gotta have a town of the sixties seventies didn't take those things that are what you have to do if you're going to be a sustainable community providing services so that you don't have to depend on outside sources. Now, the old farmhouse was the whole bureaucracy. Everything needed was the Dexter School systems with the supervisor and all the staff. Plenty of room, still had the whole front living room to use for a conference area. They had so much room. Guess what? We now have what? Seven school buildings. We have only doubled the population of students over the years. But we now have a bureaucracy building that's made up of the old high school. We went from managing with one simple building to thinking we needed a school-size room office for every stinker that's got a title. Anyway, I'll tell you what, guys, thank you very much, gentlemen. Thank you. We're going to do this again next Tuesday. Thank you. Does that sound good? Good. Very good, Larry. God bless the Republic. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is under run. Hoorah! Thank you sir, thank you Larry. Gentlemen, next Tuesday, same time, 8 o'clock. You did! Hoorah!
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