October 20, 2010
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Mark Koernke discussed combat fatigue management, marksmanship under stress, and tactical positioning on Weapons Wednesday, October 20, 2010. He analyzed the 22-hour engagement involving a Texas resident (Mr. White in Odessa) and emphasized pacing, calorie conservation, and mental discipline in prolonged confrontations. Koernke contrasted this with the Waco siege, illustrating how determined defenders with minimal resources can repel larger, better-equipped forces. He addressed militia operational security, warning against media engagement and advocating for decentralized community education and DVD distribution to recruit new members.
- weapons wednesday
- combat fatigue
- marksmanship
- tactical positioning
- odessa texas
- waco siege
- militia operations
- escape and evasion
- operational security
- media engagement
- preparedness
- community organizing
- self-defense
- adrenaline management
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Live 365 I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said, we've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free. and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. The tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm. And keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist from whence he came. His words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch in tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms He'd fought to keep what would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free and home evening ladies and gentlemen excuse me this is the evening intelligence report I'm Mark Horkey and I'm Donald Thatcher one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines and occupied territories central west southeast and north well ladies and gentlemen you're listening to us on LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com, PBN.4mg.com, and we are on live 365 and go to Liberty Tree Radio. We're also on AM&FM micro stations, CB Bay stations, and UltraNet Technologies, both east and west of the Mississippi, along with southern and central Alaska. We're on the Hallmark Network on the eastern seaboard from the top of mean to the bottom of Florida. From the bottom of Florida across the arc of the Gulf of Mexico, headed towards Louisiana, Texas, Oklahoma. Ooh, a big chunk of Nebraska, our friends up there in the Dakotas, Montana, and then Wyoming. All the middle plain states and upper plain states are covered. High to the guys down there in the pits, they run 24-7 in our network in one form or another with the way they're running their micro is up. We're up in the Intel report all through the day. Then back across through Iowa slash highway with all of our farm channels and stations there. Over to the Goldsberg Project Eastern Seaboard, which is up and down the Smokies, the Blue Ridge, all the way from the Mississippi up to Pennsylvania, New York, and beyond. And all the states soon left, right, left, right, left, right, along the mountains. Don, what is the date today, sir? Market is the 20th day of October, year of our Lord, 2010. Again, October 20th, 2010, you guys. And that's the strike down the middle of the week. So, you know, it's a pretty standard sound that's coming in. Don't be alarmed if you've never heard it before. It's a comforting thought to hear. One in the chamber, the slide, the battery, and the magazine is in the well. It is Weapons Wednesday. The perimeter is secure. It's raining, but there's some soggy people out there. The perimeter is secure. And it's deer season two, by the way. Yep. So, if everybody out there, remember, is on the road, pay attention because the hunters will be out there pushing the deer to a certain degree, not in big, massive ways, but especially during the week. But a lot of people usually go out and grab weapons and head out after work. So, they'll be pushing the deer a little bit towards twilight. You want to pay attention there, plus natural movement that already takes place. That happens, too. Anyway, a couple things here we want to consider. This has to do with rifle marksmanship and pistol marksmanship skills, but combat operations in general. Fatigue factor. Something we ran into and we've kind of had to ... It's hard to explain, except to put it this way. Why reinvent the wheel when it comes to understanding the fatigue factor that's going to ... You're going to experience and your troops are going to experience. As you lose potential energy, consider that range and accuracy obviously are going to diminish. Now, my first question has always been, why do I want to be on a par footing with my enemy? Number one, you can't afford to, guys. Any time that we're in an engagement, in fact in the initial engagements, let's look at the white scenario that took place down in Texas. And I should point out that number one, this is the man who was in a running gun battle with the aggressor for 22 to 23 hours nonstop. Now think about that because there's some, you know, people, well, you know, he just turned it on. No, it doesn't work that way, guys. Now, certainly there's a certain amount of angst. There's a certain amount of anxiety, you know, as we understand it, leading up to the confrontation that took place. After the confrontation is initiated, there is a two degree Actually, there's a wave of energy, needless to say, the adrenaline rush kicks in. That's one thing. But there's a wave of energy that's provided. And as I said before, you're going to find that there's a relief factor. It's one thing to be the runner ready to run, like in a race. You're getting prepared, and you're tensed up, and you're looking at your competition. It's another thing once the gun is fired, and you're in the race. especially in the initial point because all energy is released. All of a sudden it's like, man, we're out of here. Finally, we're getting over with it. We're getting this thing over with. We're getting on with it. And that mental factor, of course, in and of itself, is what usually gives the right runner if he harnesses it, the edge. On the other hand, with ill prepared or with mindsets that are very different, the oppressor or the aggressor coming out to steal property or steal your home or to threaten you to take more money from your wallet, to tax, these are the imperial forces coming out to steal from you. They have a different mindset. Their logic was they can play bully boy and of course they'll puff up and everybody's just supposed to be awe inspired by their sinister weaponry. Except that a lot of people out here have seen far more sinister and have seen very destructive resources available. There's not a whole lot you're going to put in front of them that's going to make them go, wow, I've never seen that before. Hey, I got black boots and pants and shirts. Yeah. Got a pile of them. Take them off the other guys that showed up. Oops! There you go. Well, and the point is that guys, when this initiated, that particular element kicks in. Now, the adrenaline rush is only good for so many minutes. This is another thing. Everybody knows this in the combat operation. Who controls that adrenaline rush and focuses it first wins. And that's exactly what happened in the initial contact with Mr. White down there in Odessa, engaging the characters that had shown up to include the character who was the perpetrator of it all, the Landman. Now after that a massive rush response of you know a flotilla an armada a wave of the uniform started to show up and still only about 150 which is a company strength formation was able to actually engage Initially now this of course over a period of hours not even right away Now granted I guarantee people off-duty are all puffed up. You know we're you know jumping in you know grabbing You know whatever they could they're gonna go shoot a civilian. Oh, right. Yeah, I'm gonna go shoot a civilian Of course, that is the attitude that they have going in. The problem is that this person already made a decision. Kind of like the death prayers had already been said, the decision was already that, well, if we get into it, we get into it, and then here we go. Helicopter, armor, everything else was available. Initially, of course, a rushed armor in high speed, getting over there with the armored car, which of course was not effective. The APC probably, the armored car had limitations. But in the first few minutes, surge up, positive action. There's something you've got to be ready for. After that adrenaline rush, something else happens, doesn't it not? Hey, it goes away. Yeah, there's been only so long on adrenaline. And I've been waiting, thank you for the opportunity, because I've been waiting to wedge that in there somewhere because it's like all of a sudden it stops. And it would have been just like interrupting you, Mark. It's gone. The adrenaline's gone. So now what do you do? And you know what? If you've got enough adrenaline in you to go 22 hours, well, odds are your heart exploded after about 15 or 20 minutes of that, even an 18-year-old. So, this individual is able to command his body. And, of course, he had combat experience. He was a Vietnam vet, had combat experience. One of the things that we have to do is be willing to and be able to understand how to pace ourselves. Now, there are ways that you rest. And sometimes it's hard to explain, but if you are in what is considered to be the observation mode. Number one, much like I've explained when you're doing pistol or rifle marksmanship, you settle on your body. Now this is a term that you have to think about, but I want you to test this yourself after the program or whenever. Step off to the side away from everything and do the old loosen up a little bit. Now move your arms, move your legs, find a place where your legs are shoulder width apart. Not too far, not too stretched out too far, not too tense because they are putting tension on the groin area. That's really why shoulder width. You want all muscles to be in neutral if at all possible but still stable, rigid. You've got to be able to stand up. They are going to be able to support. Once you are there, oxygenate yourself with about three good breaths. In and out, in and out, in and out. The fourth one, take it in. Let it out about halfway and then I want you to practice letting your muscles rest and your bones your skeletal structure rest on itself Now with your arms remember they're probably going to be holding a weapon so if you want to grab a broom or if you want to grab a Five foot or four foot piece of half inch iron pipe. You don't have to have the weapon It's a piece of iron pipe. That's a good workout tool with everything that you do. There's a reason for that. It builds up fingers, it builds up wrist, it builds up all the body parts so that they're to a certain level of tensile strength. Attention capability right off the bat. They're used to a certain weight and increment of energy consumption. Now, that weapon is going to have to be held in the casual position. Everybody likes to do the muzzle dragger, you know what I say about that. So it's up to you. It's either going to be the point take ready, okay the port ready, which personally in the environment we're in, port ready is going to be a better choice. You'll all learn eventually about this. But tail dragger, if it's muzzle dragger or port arms, I don't care which, hold that weapon. Hold that piece of four foot piece of half inch or three quarter inch iron pipe. Now then, the rest of your body is going to be now collecting data. So what collects data? Do your arms collect data? Are they supposed to be listening or are they hearing? No, in fact, they make noise. Your body moving makes noise. If you're hunting an aggressor, a two-legged moose that is trying to kill you, then you have to be better at controlling yourself and your system, your fighting system, in this case your body. So what you're going to do is you're going to rest. You're going to learn to use your ears. That means the rest of your body has to be stable and it also has to be able to rest itself for another reason. Calories burned unnecessarily are calories lost forever. Just like the ammunition in your magazine pouches, guys, you only have so many calories you're carrying on your person. All parts of this physiology are organic clocks that are constantly running in a fighting situation. Don, when you teach hand to hand, you are just going to go wailing at somebody for hours on end, right, non-stop, right? Oh no. Oh no. But this goes over. You see, In a brawl for your life, there are no rules. The other side, the guy who, your enemy, let's put it this way, when the black uniform goons come to your house, they've already made the decision. They're going to laugh, shooting and murdering you, and then laughing in the locker room. They've already made that decision, or they wouldn't be coming out there in the first place. Everybody understand that? So, mindset. If you as a defender explain, and this is what I've been saying, guys, and I can see this coming, because now they're even writing about it in other publications, the mainstream, What I see out there is that someone is going to walk out there being very bad butt all puffed up and they are going to die horribly because they are going to be wiped out. Whoever makes the final fatal decision and it is fatal for the enemy in front of them. The person who is going to make that decision if they have all agreed to it, there is nothing that that offensive force can do fast enough to save itself. But the key is this, for instance if you are by yourself, how could a man go 22 hours non-stop? Does it mean that he was No, just mixed martial arts when you see somebody just slam somebody to the floor to the floor and he's on them and he's trying to you know the other guys trying to keep his arms under control and keep him close to his body and He might get his legs around him while he's on his back get his opponent's legs around him. That's the guard position now While he's there this other guy the only energy he has to expend is just to keep from getting him The other guy's trying to hold him down. He's trying to keep him from wiggling out. So In in many instances the guy on his back is gaining energy. That's right. He's breathing still. Rest can come in different ways. If I take advantage of his position in that instant in that moment or for that minute or two And you guys, you've seen those fights go on for a minute or two, somebody on the ground. And the guy above in the attacking position, almost in the mount position, the hips past the hips, so he's holding his hips and his shoulders down with his legs, and it kind of frees everything up then. Then the guy on the bottom kind of loses then. But, before he gets there, many opponents expend more energy while the guy on the bottom is waiting for his time and then he reaches up and grabs the shoulder or reaches up and moves the chin and the shoulder or takes the wrist across the other way and the guy on top is now on the bottom and he ain't got no energy left. See how that works? That's exactly what... That's the best description I can give you of it, Mark, to back up what you're saying. All of you have seen that if you've watched any mixed martial arts. Every one of you have seen that. Maybe you didn't know what you were seeing. And I don't fault you for it because there are plenty of things I look at the first time or the hundredth time and I still don't know what I'm looking at. But that's an example, Mark. Exactly. One of the things here too to tie into this, and this is why I said rest your body. One of the things I'm trying to get you to do is to think about how your whole system works. When we rest, when we're standing there and you're going to be resting your body, you're holding that whatever you're using as a training aid to demonstrate you have to balance weight. Okay, you've got in a low muscle rest position across the body on about a 45 degree angle With the right hand if you're right handed higher than the left hand and obviously the left hand securing the fore grip of the weapon Whenever possible you rest that part of your body that has to support that to the body and that's going to also force you to stabilize yourself and but counterbalance accordingly So you're making your compensating for that but your structure your skeletal structure rests on itself now. What are we doing here? I'm observing. It doesn't mean that I've shut down. I'm controlling every aspect of my body if I am a warrior because every calorie I burn needlessly is a calorie I could have used to destroy another enemy. Maybe that one calorie is all that was necessary to keep me stable enough that when I pulled the trigger, the barley corn site was lined up with a notch. I'm using a nice iron site system. I bring it up. and half out, but because I was a little weak and because my arms are losing their elasticity, the muscles are getting tired, I fail to properly support the weapon at one point or another and I'm off and I lose a shot because of that one calorie loss that was lost earlier. So immediately I go into rest mode, but it's rest fighting mode. I am observing. I do not move my head. I do not move needlessly any part of my body. If I'm in a fighting position, if I'm taking up a position in the woods, I will be as the woods. That sounds like something that is a basic martial art for both the West and the East. We teach a lot of far eastern martial arts, but in the West the same training applied and was taught in a myriad of schools that are lost to us to a degree because we've changed technologies with some fighting forces. Another example, I take some of those old guys in the hills of Kentucky, Tennessee, and they're fighting stick ways that have been trained by their pappy, by their grandpappy, by their great-grandpappy. and put them up against the needs of the Filipino fighting stick people. Oh yes, the old hickory syndrome kids. And again, there are different techniques that have been learned, but they are all based upon staying alive. Winning is the key. Now, one of the other things here about rest is the basic rule. Let's explain the basic rule of the infantryman. Never stand when you can kneel. Never kneel if you have the opportunity to sit and it's safe. Never sit if you can lay down and it's safe. Do you see the reasoning behind this? At each point, now again, if I stop, ideally I take cover. Immediately I blend to a tree. I move to an obstruction. I never stand in the open. But I also am prepared, you know, I'm immediately prepared to fight, but I'm even in rest mode when I do that immediately I again Quiet myself you've heard this term before but most people don't think through what it means and this is very important because One must quiet oneself This means taking control of that inner part of you that wants to fight or flight right now or want them. That's right Because man, it's that last 400 yards get you here. It took way too long. And instead, even though you'd want to suck air like that, that's true. That's exactly the point. Instead, you have to take command and you will breathe deeply, my friend. Like we always show, breathe deeply, my tasty friend. Oh, oh, oh, it's slipping in the back. Well, in this case, it's absolutely true. That's part of the immediate discipline of the mind and the body. Spirit takes that, takes all of those. Okay? Spirit, the mind and the body. Now, in the process, as I said, whenever even if you're fighting, there are points where you must, I mean imagine 22 hours non-stop. He didn't run around like a chicken with his head cut off. He wasn't panting and breathing. I guarantee it. We don't think about it, especially those who are experienced. It becomes second nature. In fact, it is difficult sometimes for people to be teachers because they don't think about what they've developed in the way of techniques. Some people, they're not teachers, they're fighters. They're in a particular trade, they do a particular thing. They've never had the need to teach. So, they don't have the need to explain. It's second nature when you try to... what I'm talking about is, well of course you do that. Yeah, well you've thought this through. Or you've already done it and you're, you know, again you're thinking, hmm, okay. Well, there are a lot of people out there who have not done this or who have not made the effort or think that because of impressions they've gotten from a combination of publications. a combination of movies, a combination of television, and other propaganda that totally changed. Let me give you an example. When you watch an action movie, you see the guy running along, running along, running along, and then they change camera angle. And he's still greasy and oily, but boy, he's fallen 25 feet on his side. Have you ever done that? Now granted I'll get up. I mean I've fallen in a similar fashion standing up and impacted standing up. Now guys, you want to talk about a jolt from your, you know, lumpus to your, you know, your brain? Oh, I'll tell you what, all I could do was whoo! And I was trying to get some air in. And seriously, it was a hammer because I was not prepared for the fall, I had to save my life. And it was because of an inexperienced climber above me that we were shepherding. And the problem is, the mistake made, I went down and I impacted straight down. Now I've impacted perfectly. In fact, what happened is, I'd lost basic control. But what I was doing is using a flat technique which you lay to the wall and you try to find the next ledge. Well, I did. In fact, I was lucky. There was a much wider ledge there than was necessary. But unfortunately, I couldn't bend my knees. And you know what? Whoa! That whole joke goes straight through you. No, no, the thing is, when I see somebody fall sideways, the guy gets up, shakes it off, and he starts running. Oh, and he's a little sweaty, and he's got some little scuffy marks on his arm, and he's got a couple of bruises here and there from all the other falls that have been two and three and five stories through the whole movie. But this sucker starts running. And then he's running and he's running and he's running and he's running and he's running and he's running and you see him and they change scenes and he's running and they change another camera angle. Well of course, of course he's still running for three or four minutes. That's because every time he changes camera angles, caught. Okay, get a pop, everybody relax, make up, bring the body sweat, okay, change angle. At the end of the next block we start filming again. Exactly. You see, so when you watch this, just think through some of the processes here. It doesn't mean that adrenaline won't take over. I know people who have died, you know, dying has saved people's lives with the last few seconds of breath they have or with a few minutes of oxygen they have. All they did, keel over, dead in their doornail. They were dead before they started. technically dead before they started, no doubt about it. Okay? So, most important here is how do you pace and control yourself in this? Why is this important? Well, I talked about diminishing returns. See, I'm a really good rifle marksman and that's not bragging, that's just because the fortunate, you know, environment I was in and my basic background being raised and the old concept again, hit with, you know, hit with chain that. And you're gonna hit it, you're gonna hit it hard, okay? Now, With every hour of fatigue I add to my system, I change. The math formula for probability of hit changes. What also happens is something I do not want to see happen any sooner than is possible. I do not want to be at equity with my enemy with regard to range. Ever! If I were looking at a one to five ratio, let's say there's a rat team, you know, one of these skunk teams that are coming out to cause some problems, and there's five of them, and one of you. You want to get them all and that should be your goal. Well, but they're trained professionals. No, that just means they get paid. Okay? Yeah, but if this becomes a hunting duel, the biggest problem is they've got more feet and more ways to come at you or to you know, even to a degree if they wanted to pace themselves, some rest, some work and you still have to work the whole time. That's how a wolf packs. That's how a dog that's no faster than a deer can run down the deer. One dog can't. That's why the other part about this formula is what's going to change. I'm trying to get everybody prepared for this because this is what's going to change. At some point, the bad guys thinking they're going to come out and mess with Billy or Bob or Frank or Ed or whoever it is. are thinking he is going to be alone. But it is the day that somebody decided to have a special impromptu meeting over at Fred's place. And all the people there at Fred's place, when they come to mess with Fred. Now, don't be surprised when all of a sudden the teamwork kicks in and all the training that these people have done is going to be applied. Now, don't also be shocked when you understand that the aggressor that comes in to do the dirty deed is wiped out in a matter of minutes. Much like a wolf pack, they're very kind of predictable. Yes, because of that what's going on. They become threatened in their ways and set on their target. Change the opportunities, play the shell game with them, only don't give them the pea. I'll give you probably the best example of psychologically just how this works. And this actually happened, this has been now several, many years. We were having other problems. I was traveling all over the country. We decided to homeschool. The Communists decided they didn't like us homeschooling. So they were going to send out a thug group to come to the house and to try and thug us up. Now, the mistake that they made on the day they chose, which was towards the middle of the day, is that a whole bunch of people had gotten the message that there were some other problems around the country and so two of the different militia units in the area had mobilized. Some of the people who were part of this are listening right now on the air. Okay, they're listening to the program, I know they are. So they came over to the house and they deployed in the early hours of the morning. And if anybody knows the way my yard set up, I've got trees as big around as your cars. I've got lots of foliage and lots of cover. There is only one way into the driveway, but it is a blank wall that on both sides is kind of like the gated, but it has places where you would just be standing everywhere. Well, everybody had pulled in, cars were neatly parked, everything was where it belonged. Most everybody had come in multiple groups with vans or whatever, so there weren't that many vehicles there. The characters pulled straight into the driveway with five suckers piled into this squad car. They thought they were just going to roll right in. Well, they drove, they did. They drove right into the yard. I think they went two full car lengths, almost three, down the driveway. Immediately, two or three people stepped from either side, three on one side, three or four on the other, and came forward and were looking at these carrots like, what in the hell are you people doing here? Now, they all looked real impressed. They all looked and grunty when they started pulling in the driveway. And they were so focused on the front porch of the house, they didn't look around at all. There were 9 on 60 men armed to the teeth, combat outfitted and equipped. Now, they went from grim like, we're going to go beat the, yeah, we're going to go snug up the Corky family, to they looked left, and they looked right, and they looked left, and all the color drained from their faces, and the driver jammed the car into reverse, stomped on the gas. Now meanwhile, everybody's stepping out with RPKs, there was an M60 here, Let's see, any number of other weapons. And they were all plainly visible. And it was very obvious to everybody who was passively thinking about how shall we shoot the targets. They went from being really bad, but to, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, du Now, guys, they were so busy not paying attention and they were so busy trying to accelerate on RSDAO that they threw the whole hind end of the car into the ditch, progressively getting it stuck. But I'll tell you what, I will say it's a testimony to their application of the accelerator pedal that even though they bellied the car out, by God, they got that car out of that ditch, and they headed on down the road. And you know what was fascinating? Nobody had said a word to them. Everybody was just staring at them. Nobody wanted to talk to them. Everybody was just waiting to see if they were stupid enough to move out of that vehicle. They're willing to get that car the heck out of there. Get the hell out of there. OK, and they headed on down. And they were all big guys. Oh, they had to squeeze into that car. So if somebody had fired a couple of three-out rounds, it had gotten all three of them in the back seat. It had gotten both of them in the front seat. No problem at all. I mean, boom, boom, boom, pop, boom, boom. The biggest problem is getting onto the line of fire. Make sure you don't do the Polish firing squad. Everybody's circled around a car like that. You're all shooting each other. And that was the problem. Everybody was like, oh, well, this looks like this is what we were waiting for. And so stupid people went right into the, you know, drove right into a kill zone. Now we, again, were civil. We just made a point. And they never came back. They thought that that little sneak thug attack was going to be, you know, it was not going to be something we'd be ready for. And they just right place, right time by happenstance. Now could that have kicked into a shooting conflict? Real quick. Is that the kind of snare that's probably going to play out? Oh, immediately I can hear the bad guys going, well, we bring more people. Well, then there'd be more of you dead on the ground. Because once it starts, and I guess the best example is this, the bat faggots at Waco. Now, let's look at a scenario here and play it out. And it was a very short three assaults, one after another after another. But the assault on Waco was chosen and they were all puffed up and they were all trained for a year to go murder men, women, and children in their home. In fact, mostly women and children and grandmas and grandpas because they even knew that the time that they picked would be when the men who could fight would be away from home at work. They planned it just like savages, like the noble savages of old, okay? The barbarians. And they went in all puffed up and they had every modern weapon you could imagine and they had helicopter support and they were retrained and trained and retrained and trained and retrained and trained and trained and they trained and trained and they planned and they planned and they said that the Baster video just had bigger guns than they did. Remember that clip that had the red hair that was the mouthpiece that did all the lying and fabricated all the footage? What a stumble bomb. Self-inflicted injuries in the line of act are of an assault like that too. Again, part of the adrenaline rush issue. But here's the thing. And I emphasize this battle because most people say, well look at what happened. Well, I will say, look at what happened. Grandmas and grandpas, women, and a very small handful of fighting age men, engaged a combat infantry force that was state-of-the-art equipped with MP5s, M16s. They had aerial gunnery from above. So they had multi-dimensional assault capability that they applied. They murdered Branch Davidians left and right. They shot at every woman and child they could find. Still, that force of women, children, and a couple of grandpas and grandmas, a handful of grandpas and grandmas, and a few fighting men, put them back on their heels. That's the best. We're talking in granted that there are newer groups they've got now. They've got more steroids, and they've got more steroids, and they've got more amphetamines, so they've got their eyes bulging up in front of their heads twice the normal distance. But you know what, they bleed and die just like everybody else. And that's what happened that day. The defenders were determined because their families were right there behind them. Now I'm going to warn you that everybody's already making or have made their decisions. And the one thing that they said in that time propaganda piece was, well, the back digits might be coming out of the... might be coming out to do something legitimate. What? Coming out so they can grab somebody, falsely charge them, fabricate additional false charges, lie about everything, and then put you in jail for a year to two years, or lie and get some ring knocking Masonic buddy jury together so that they can lie for each other and then put the person in jail and murder them in jail for life. So let's see in the world in the way it is and with everybody understanding that you know murder death kill is on the enemy's mind he who decides to do it better first wins if You get your buddies together and you you organize properly not only will you win? But there will be only one side absolutely one side to the story which is how it should be There should only be one side to the story Consider this, the third assault by the bat faggots, by the time they were done at Wake Hill, the third assault by the bat faggots, they wanted to attack after they tried to murder the women and kids three times. The bat faggots tried to murder the women and kids three times. They tried three times. I just did it three times. That's why I said three times, three times, three times. Why? The fourth time, before the fourth time came around, they wanted to talk. Why? Well just as you only have so many calories to carry, you also only have so many rounds. And the Bat Faggots only had 40 rounds of ammunition left between the whole group. They could not even commit decent suicide. See, think about that. Everybody had to put two heads together. Yeah. Everybody had to put two heads together. That way, you know, one bullet, two heads, there you go. And even then they had a few bodies left over. So they had to, well, wait to see what happened. In other words, especially if I got hold of them, because you see in that situation, after some of the stuff that you'd find, no. They were nice people. We've all learned and know better. All of us in Michigan, everybody goes armed to a funeral now. Everybody goes armed to a wedding now. Everybody sees a vehicle that looks out of place. It's a perceived enemy. That's not paranoia. That's common sense. Think about it. So a world that has changed once again, but mindset is half the battle. You will rest in fact even as you stand. You will rest and you will control yourself. You will save whatever calories you can. Now I'm not saying lay down if it's a situation, although firing from the prone position is a real good idea anyway. But even in the prone position, there are cautions that need to be applied here. You will become comfortable. To a degree, you cannot afford comfort. Okay, if you're on your own like that and you're fighting, especially since in this situation because of the dagger war phase that we're in where we're on the edge of things, this is a unique situation. That if it escalated, his situation would not have been a fixed fighting position scenario, but rather in a survival escape and evasion scenario. Now, in that case, fighting and making contact and then breaking contact for then an escape and evasion phase means that that 22 hours, well, let's put it this way, there would have been one hour, the point of contact and then plus an hour of decision and motion. And that first few minutes is when you have to fight or fly after you've made the contact and engaged and fought. Are you going to stay, hold your ground, or are you going to move? If you are going to move, remember that in every step you have to put distance between you and the original point of activity while still not exposing yourself to the general population at all. On this subject, because I can show you a myriad of situations where people have effectively been engaged by the enemy, have broken contact with the enemy, only to be acquired later because for whatever strange reason the person felt they just had to make contact with civilization. And there was absolutely no need. In almost every case it was during summer months the individual was armed, had a full combat kit, a bug out bag with food, with everything needed to stay in the field. So there was absolutely no reason to make contact with anyone. Now, in an evasion phase, the energy that, for instance, Mr. White and Odessa had to use for defense and position would have been spent in progressively putting distance away from the original point of activity. How well you know the terrain, how good your mapping is, and how good you are at, again, quiet motion will determine your survivability in a survival, escape, and evasion scenario. In the one instance with Scott Woodring, it was making contact with a person who was an absolute traitor to the family. Yes. Okay. Ten thousand dollars. They sold him out. In the other case, it was because the person decided to move during the day and was seen by somebody driving down the road who just happened to see the guy's face over like on the edge of a road, only 40 yards from the road and said, well, it's weird that that guy is there. And he was only a short distance from a grocery, like a yard store out in the middle of nowhere that was near some of the lakes. And for whatever reason, rather than just staying hunkered down, waiting until after dark, and doing whatever you're going to do, especially since, you know, again, the stores of stain will stay open late. If your thought was you're going to go to a grocery store or go to a stop and rob, which I would never do, But if that were the case, you put yourself down for the day. You do not move during the day. If you do, you move only if it's in the back 40. You have complete overhead covering canopy. But again, when you stop, you rest. Example, when you lay in the prone, there is a temptation. The body starts to submit to that rest point. So that's why, like I said, remember, you do not stand when you can kneel. You do not kneel when you can sit, but only if it's safe. In other words, if you suspect contact, sitting can be dangerous. It may be necessary because of fatigue, but it is dangerous. It has to be considered. If you lay down, that can be in the prone position. I've had this happen a thousand times, people. You're comfortable. You've been running for two, three, or four days nonstop, maybe a week nonstop. You've gotten a minimal amount of rest. Now your body's laying horizontal and it's actually supported by the earth. Oh, does this feel good? Oh, yeah. You're trying to watch and observe. It's right where it wants to be. And you know what? The ground is a lot closer to your, oh, my cheek angles sideways and starts to rest on your arm. I'll just keep one eye open and the other eye I'll close. You know how you talk yourself into this? Because I've watched this a thousand times. Now, instead, you have to discipline yourself to a certain amount of pain. That sounds weird, but you need to have something that's going to create discomfort so that it is not possible for you to rest under those conditions. So again, something uncomfortable under the arm, something uncomfortable under the side of the belly or the chest. It's designed to remind you that you're there for a reason, but only temporary. Okay, that's one of the things to consider. You're not wanting to fatigue the body that way too much because any kind of pain is a stress which burns calories. All of these things have to be taken into consideration because in the next instant you may be a rifleman. In the next instant you may be in a fire maneuver situation. Now whatever possible, again, if at all possible, rest the body while using the mind, the eyes, and the ears. observe with minimal energy expended. That's the way you have to think non-stop. Be the tree, be the rock, whatever you want. There's a number of ways. In other words, common sense. Now, this gets us then into the next step. Oh, well now I have to change modes. Now, when you're changing or you're shifting and it has to be immediate, one of the things to beware is that you're going to try to fire from the rest. The firing change or the shift change to shooting status has to be half breath. In other words, boom, now I can change and I can catch up. Half breath, up again and boom, there we go. Okay, second target down, something else is moving, I have to maneuver. I've already fired twice from two close positions, I am now at risk. I was at risk after the first bullet fired and I need to be moving. I need to be moving away from the original point of contact. If I'm in an escape and evasion mode or if I'm in any kind of fighting mode, remember that we have to maneuver. That doesn't mean you can do this all the time. You can be injured. You may be physically handicapped. There's only a number of considerations, but any movement provided it's using cover and concealment is good. because you will change positions. This creates a question mark in your aggressor's mind. Is that the same person or is that another target? Now if they have two or three right, and that's what actually, by the way, Mr. White did that. They weren't sure if there were one, three, or five people. He was taking advantage of terrain and was using it. Something that you all need to think about. One of the other reasons a handgun and a rifle are kind of nice. One shot from one position with a pistol, Flip around to the other side of the tree, move a little bit, one round with a rifle. Well, nobody would change out like that, so that makes you have to think about, hmm, maybe this guy's not alone. Now meanwhile, then you're breaking contact. Let them continue to mull over the fact that maybe they ran into a fire team, maybe they ran into somebody who's been waiting for them. Maybe they've accidentally made contact with a patrol, any number of things. Let them think whatever they want, but you get the heck out of Dodge. You're quietly, you know, again moving away from the objective trying to work in the oblique. Many ideas, I know a lot of them again, we throw a lot of stuff at you, but it first comes down to commanding your body. If you're going to be a rifle marksman, it comes down to commanding your body. If you're going to use a pistol, it comes down to commanding your body because you are the weapons platform. Now, as fatigue wears, so does your system and so will your probability of hit. Now, that's where focusing energy is going to become more and more critical. It doesn't mean that you're going to diminish extreme in the extreme, but with greater fatigue comes other, there are other issues that apply. One of the things to alleviate some of that fatigue is water. Hydrate, hydrate, hydrate. I cannot stress this enough. Of course, you're also going to be urinating, urinating, urinating. But amazingly enough, in a stress situation, your metabolism slows down. It does not accelerate. So having to defecate, having to urinate is going to change dramatically. Also, depending upon the patrol foods that you use, and sometimes you can do this intentionally, you will slow down your metabolism so that you will not have to relieve yourself as often. The problem with this is that you also will change calorie consumption with the body. The good thing is you'll also slow the system down and be taking in calories. So there's a plus minus thing going on, a mixed minus. Always plus, always negative at the same time. Everything your body does burns calories. The question is how much of that activity will take in calories or save calories, depending on what you're doing. The eyes moving don't take quite as many calories as you. Moving your torso, flailing your arms, you know, everything must be stilled. Everything must be reduced in motion. It also means you're less of a target in general, obviously. That's just not plain. That's Gear Hunter 101, okay? Minimal motion for best results. Now, the other part about this, rehydration is also, as I just mentioned, food. And, patrol rations can be a number of different things. Personally, my attitude, peanut butter and crackers, combat crackers, the old patent cookies or whatever you want. Freeze dried stuff or dried foods, the old freeze dried MRE stuff, like we said, pork patty, beef patty, potato patty, they're dry, you take a little bit of water, they're going to rehydrate in your system. You don't have to rehydrate them in the can. You nibble on them, you add some water, you let it work in the system, work in the body itself. If you take in small amounts, it is amazing how efficiently your body will consume those calories and will not burn reserves that are in your system. The other thing is, remember, minerals. This sounds weird because, oh, what are they? Multiple vitamins. Even if all you can afford is a dollar store or multiple vitamins, it helps. See, down right off the bat, people say, okay, let's buy these high-grade workout vitamins. I didn't tell you to buy those. Nope. If you can, that's fantastic. But at the very least, even the cheapest multiple vitamins will help. Better than nothing, like you were saying about night vision. First generation is better than nothing. That's right. And it should be in your bug out bag. It's something that's never in the... A lot of people don't list that. And I've mentioned it for years. And somebody says, well, dollar store, that's cheap. Okay, well then go spend more. Whatever you think you need in a food supplement system that includes minerals and all the amino acids, you want to get a workout kit together, do it. It would be a great idea. Actually, a lot of the workout powders are fantastic as field food because they provide all the stuff that your muscles are going to be eating up. They're going to be chewing. They are going to hurt after a while too. You start seeing cramping and things of that nature. What do you think that does to your marksmanship capabilities? Oh you guys, you know what is the first thing the coach does? The football player out there on the field starts to cramp up or the baseball player or the basketball player. Get over here. Why do you think Gatorade was developed? Oh yeah. I mean I say more? Hydrate. And it's one of the things too that we're looking at. My issue here is that having been a competition shooter, we see this on rifle ranges in competition people. We see this with people who are stick shooters. In other words, they're in one place, they don't go anywhere, they aren't running down the road. We're just talking about standing in one place and letting the sun beat down you on a range where there's a hundred other shooters standing side by side by side by side by side. You'll have a guy, he's looking kind of pasty white, he's not sweating, but he's trying to focus on. You know what happens is he gets so focused on his mission that he forgets certain things. And because weather conditions are unique, overly hot, maybe unusual for that part of the season, this can happen easily. So it's part of the regimen of your weapons platform. If you were maintaining a tank, you're going to grease all the zerks, guys. you better make sure that all the components work or they are useless. You know, very quickly things will break down. Well, the same is true, you know, in other words, not, you know, all the guns, shiner it can be. And a weapon system has been clean and clean and clean. What about the rest of the vehicle? What about the rest of the vehicle? It runs! Yeah, for how long? Well, see that's probably to get complicated equipment. You also have to maintain the rest of the goodies, not just the cool toys that are on them. One of the standard thoughts about vehicles, it'll get you there. Yeah, it'll get you there, but will it bring you home? Exactly. Now, this is another thing that if you get a chance, and now I'll tie one more thing in here, and this has to do with helping to reduce fatigue, and as we all know, exercise doesn't hurt. You do not have to run two miles a day. But it would be a good idea to get out there and walk anywhere. I don't care where you go. I don't care what you do. If you're in the city, come on, give me a break. Pick a route that takes you up stairways. Pick a route that takes you up stairways. That is not hard to do. Take and pick a route. Oh, well, you can put an easy leg in there. You can actually engineer your roots so that you are up, moving up, up, up, up, and then plateau and then gradually downhill and back to your original objective, your home or whatever. But try to pick a situation. Now you're going to have everybody right off the bat, guys. Shinsplence is the first thing I hear everybody worry about. Don't worry, you're too old for that. You'll just play hurt all over. Shinsplence, at least you're worried. You're just going to hurt all over. But it's critical that you start to work the body now and it's not that hard. Personally, my attitude on this thing, guys, we ain't got along the way. I think everybody knows that. The most common comment I'm hearing now for everybody is it's too quiet. Well, it's not that it's too quiet. It's that parts are in motion and they don't want anybody to think about it. It's not that things aren't happening. The controlled press has been told not to talk about it. But even because of that things are leaking out through the system now or they're you know tweaking things and they're making comments and sonar pinging You know like this comment about low possibility of civil war in the United States. That's not mark That's that's these rag magazines and newspapers talking now guys Now why do you think that showed up and by the way don't think that it isn't part of that You know like stale part of the propaganda that was supposed to be out here in the last two weeks against the militia Except the problem is that even with the group that was there, and I got a comment on this too, we're going to lose our time here in a minute. There was apparently the guys that were in the Time Magazine article, the Ohio Defense Forces, kind of gotten into an angst amongst themselves because many of them are listening, I'm sure, to what I've said about don't let the press in. Now rather than this becoming a big rowl, and causing a lot of problems. Step back for a minute, everybody get together and talk this thing through. And if somebody starts, you know, you'll know who the skunks are real quick. But the most important is, if it's just a matter of, well, I thought we could get some positive publicity. Well, just remind everybody that with the controlled media, there is no such thing. Doesn't mean that people won't positively respond to what you're saying. But the idea is, why are we talking to our enemies? There is nothing they can offer us and there is nothing they are going to do for us. In other words, they are only going to do stuff to you, which is exactly what they tried to do with this whole BS thing that they generated. It fell flat on its face. You did not see a massive wave of hundreds and hundreds of other articles minute after minute, hour after hour, day after day. So it failed. Well, take that as a positive note. That is a good demonstration that they understand. They got responses we will never hear about. people probably are thinking, how can I get all those guys, how can I get all the more? I would like to join the world, I think that's a wonderful idea from people who really are just now getting on the program. The bad guys got that. We should have been the ones getting that. You, all of you listening. So to make that happen, you're going to have to help to connect people. Now we don't have to have them connect to Mark and Nam, they can just listen in here. But you need to be connecting with them, which means you've got to start working in your community. Get out to how to find those sheets. Start working to educate people randomly. Up in the middle part of the state, guys, they reproduce tens of thousands of DVDs every week. Everybody's burning up DVDs like there's no tomorrow and handing them out everywhere. Right now, everybody's hungry. They get one DVD they ask for two or three more you tell a wasker. What did you do the others? Did you pass them out like we told you oh? Yeah, my brother's got it now. Well. That's how it's supposed to work Saturate the battlefield to educate and bring them the minds into the same fold into the same Arena so that we can start talking about or they can find out about what it is they need to do I don't want to know what you have I do wonder how much you have I don't want you to tell me how much you have I do not want to know I've had people try to do that when we've been traveling. It's like, no, no, no, stop. I don't need to know what you have. Mark has enough burdens as it is. Suffice it to say that if you come to me and say that I've done, you know, as you've asked, that's actually the best thing you can tell me. And that you're doing it your own way, better still. Because there's no cookie cutter to pick on. There's no way they can take a single pattern and go, this is how you defeat the militia. This is how you destroy the militia. This is how you find everything. It's not going to work that way, guys. How do you grab smoke? How do you grab it? How do you grab it and control it? You can't. That's what I want to see. That's why again, I want to address this whole idea about controlling the person and every once in a while on Weapons Wednesday we do this for a reason because it's not all the neat toys and the weapon systems. The man behind the weapon makes it. You give me the radiest old bolt-action rifle, a few minutes worth of elbow grease, and a few other trinkets and I'll make that rifle sing and I won't even expect another weapon. That's the attitude you gotta have. You give me any firearm or weapon that I need to fight with and I will make it work for me. It doesn't make me, I make it. Always remember that guys. Man behind that .50 caliber, he makes that weapon sing. It certainly is nice to have a better tool out of the toolbox. But every tool you got can be made to work. And that's what we need to do. That's how we're going to do it. We're going to tune the shooter. I'll tell you what, we are just at the top of the hour. I know we're going to hear the music because we've got to get dutch in here. So we've had Craig up with Forbidden Knowledge last hour. Don, your number for Night Vision? You can reach me at 231796845. And again, guys, give them a call. Pie from a friend rather than a stranger. God bless the republic. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire's in the run. We are on the march, folks. Stay in, Mike. Whoa! Kick him in the hind end, run him over to that fence, and throw him a little mad, no droopneel in chihuahuas. There you go. Thank you, Doc.