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Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You vie permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state You read about the current news in a regulated press and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold you trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Both sons of the Republic arise. Take a stand. Defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land. Preserve our great Republic and each God given right. And pray to God to keep the torture freedom burning bright. As Iowoki vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch him tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms He fought to keep what would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the end of the afternoon ladies and gentlemen this is the afternoon intelligence report I'm Mark Wernke One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories. West, southwest, we'll trick there for a moment, and then northeast. We're listening to us on Liberty Tree, 4mg.com, pbn.4mg.com, and we are on live 365. Then go to Liberty Tree Radio. We're also on AM and FM micro stations, CB Bay stations, and Ultra. Net technologies both east and west of the Mississippi along with southern Central Alaska and the illusions way over there in the corner We are on the homework network on the Eastern seaboard from the top of Maine way over there the upper right hand corner of the country all the way to the bottom of Florida and the bottom lower right hand of the country and across the arc of the Gulf of Mexico Wasteland everybody is doomed and there's nobody really there. We're just listening to computer technology that mimics and even fake images so that people will consider going there and the population dies touching the water they explode anyway Louisiana, Texas, Oklahoma, a big chunk of Nebraska, our friends in the mine, and sounds like we're talking to guys in the slave pits. It's a pit mine, but it's not a slave pit mine. They get paid very well. And also to the third of Wyoming. Then back over to our farm, microstations and many other microstations in Iowa slash IOA, winging at low altitude, fast attack aircraft, parting the crops that haven't been harvested yet, the backwash of our high speed aircraft as we Leaked to the other side back to the eastern side of the Mississippi to the Golden Spike Project all up and down the Smokies and that is of course for the restaurant crew the Grammatimes the okay teams and the Grandma teams of the Ma Bell crew Ma Bell Grammatimes who are even as we speak preparing for a mass Patriot invasion of Parma, Michigan home of right in front of you don't forget a froggy froggy froggy wealthy it is it's still sunshine outside down what is the day-to-day there marketed the banking day of october again banking day of october in for the year of our board without the double uh... you can't take anything that has to do with christ into the schools but you could take anything that has to do with the devil demons monsters of zombies vampires Everything and anything that is wicked, flesh eating and evil is perfectly okay in school. Here you go, how do you like that? In the education system controlled by the public. Don't forget, because of that we want to take advantage of carrying away all the stuff that shows up during devil worshipping season. Everything from pumpkins and other goodies like that that can be used for foodstuffs to all the Halloween trimmings that can be useful at other times of the year. Of course, we didn't mention that there's all of these polystyrene and plastic art showing up too. Boy, if you want to make movies and you need to put into a uniform to have laying on the ground, have a tattered old, tired uniform that's got holes and is rotted away because it's on the clothesline, you throw that on one of these skeletons. And man, you've got props for a real sci-fi movie, guys. In fact, you know, the latest one is Bags of Bones. I don't think anybody's noticed this. I was thinking about going down the road here and just mentioning to the neighbors, hey, when the Halloween season's over, can we borrow these? Because other people have already paid the money for them. And what? They're good, what? They're not going to be good for howl. They're not going to be good for anything other than, you know, the devil worshipping season. I mean, what? You're going to pull them out for Valentine's Day? Look, what a bag of beans! You're going to pull them out for Easter? Look, what a bag of beans! That's fine, put them away please, they're very morbid. Well look, for Christmas, I've got a bag of bones instead of coal and sticks. It's a step up. So obviously these are very limited ornaments. There's a whole lot of any other purpose, not that any holiday ornament can be used for anything else typically, but one cool thing guys, think of all the stuff you can do with these things for video and movie production. There's a lot of cool stuff, but if you just start thinking through it, it's like the Christmas lights and things. The lights don't go to waste at all. We use them for everything from tunnel lighting to making homemade neon signs using the lights, plywood and a drill. And you can spell out whatever you want with a Christmas lighting and it can be seen for a mile. thought about that. Four by eight sheet of plywood, couple of them, and you've got yourself a lit sign that no matter where you are, night, oh my goodness, you can spell things to the spy satellites. Like, hey, boop, boop, what are you looking at? Lay the plywood upright, you know, towards the sky. You know, first of all, check out the spy satellite where, how it's pointed at your house. The sign accordingly so it's aimed right for the satellite. That way in the future anybody sees it, you know, you make sure every night for however many nights you just keep plugging it in, plug it in, plug it in. Eventually, what's going happen is this going to show up in one of those quasi-dem or late night shots and everybody's going to go wow what's that? Well why don't you read it? Zoom in on this coordinate, check out this neighborhood. Look at this yard. Hey why would that be pointed up there unless you're looking right at this set? See we can have fun too guys. We'll see we're all inked up. You know take all this cool stuff that's showing up and use it. At yard sales. By the way yard sales. to say thank you. I can't say who it is, but do you know that for instance, there are some people still have you, obviously resources, you know, up to GIGI, or well, apparently they think they do. Got two folding stepladders, two folding like, you know, what, six foot, you know, aluminum stepladders for free because somebody just decided they needed to go out by the road. We're talking 20 year old stepladders. We're talking some stuff that was purchased at the beginning of the season and got out by the road. Now it's part of our inventory of tools. So this time of year pay attention to what's being gotten rid of guys. You never know what somebody gets in their mind. Or they get disgusted. Or they just get moved out and the stuff gets thrown out on the road. or it's going to be destroyed. Don't let it go to the landfill if it's something that's useful, especially if it's tools and or technology we can use for other things. Remember a lot of stuff you can grab off the side of the road are things you can put into your remote locations where you won't cry if something happens to them. You ever thought about it? Normally Don, it's like, oh I can't do that. That's the kind of stuff that can get melted down and cut. That's right. One of the best examples of this is everybody's getting rid of this year's hard furniture now. Does that look like or sound like the colors I have on my tactical uniforms? No! Now let's see, let's take those, round them up and just drop them off wherever they are in the woods. Make a little shelter or box for them. Camouflage it. I just got a really nice find. Another thing I got today that, oh these are priceless. Oh, Bell Telephone Outpost Housing. Now, they're either going to go to our UltraNet friends because this is the kind of stuff where you've got its own stake, it's got its own cover, they're already ventilated, and apparently somebody just got a burr up their hind end and decided they needed to change to a different model. And this stuff you wouldn't go out and buy because you could not afford to do it. You know what I mean? But if you're building up a micro station or if you're putting in a remote transmitter for those security cameras and you need something that's going to weatherize your position, your equipment, oh, gee, look, about a $150 to $300 containment box times five of the little ones and then the bigger ones will turn around $600 apiece. I got two of those. Now, they are already in a kind of, you know, other than that bell green, you know, kind of an odd green, you know, the idea behind it is they'll know that, hey, that's the box over there. Well, you go over to the dollar store and our dollar stores here have all kinds of tactical colors right now. They've got medium greens, light greens, long furniture, plastic paints, Don, for a dollar a can in their Krylon. Gee, I wonder what paint that would, would that, would that paint work maybe on these big? And then all of a sudden I have it tactically colored camouflaged. Two or three colors of green and brown and gray. I got myself a tactically camouflaged containment box. It's weatherized for one of my transfer points for my security camera grid. Wow! I had to make those out of junk and turn like a garbage can upside down or if I get on pale and then improvise. I don't have to do that anymore. I've got an industrial version. You can take a sledgehammer and try to break it. It doesn't do any good. It's the kind of thinking you've got to have people consider. And there's other things that can be done with those. But the lawn furnishers, for instance, lawn tables, lawn chairs. Oh, by the way, are people throwing out those canopies, expandable canopies in your area? Have you ever thought about the idea that you take a camouflage? First of all, you take your choice of whatever canvas or plastic, you know, tarp, whatever camouflage like the browns of the greens and you cut that you know for the one who want to go over the table okay they fold down the fold up but what if you want to put a century or put a post up or did a position and rather than have to worry about all they can look right into where you are you take a reflective mile of blanket on the big cheapy ones you cut that to the size of the expanded uh... uh... umbrella when it's open Then you take a camouflage, one of the camouflage tarps from Harbor Freight, put that over that, secure that into place. And last, you take a piece of camouflage net or you make your own camouflage net and you make up your own ghillie cover to do random shading changes. No patterns. You don't want this to be an exact pattern. And what's really cool is this thing could either be left in place and cranked down as needed or it can be let it can be cranked up, locked in place and left right where it is. During the day it has good color and of course it's good good cover and it's cover but I can see it's concealment not covers not going to stop a bullet. But at night it also has thermal reduction potential. And if it snows on a little bit guess what it's going to look from above just like all the rest of the terrain. Oh, by the way, it was free. Mark may be talking like he has some of these. Yeah, I got three of them. And guess what? Oh, once again, lawn furniture is very popular. It's doing it in tactical colors. So Don, since it's already in earth, wood, brown, it doesn't have it to be painted even. Wow. No, but you could take another color. In fact, I would go with grays because one of the things to look at, go out in the woods and take a look at the tree bark and the trees. Like in our area, we have a lot of maple, silver maples, maples and oaks. So look at the shades that are on the trees. Consider that when you paint it, make it look like the rest of the tree branches in shade range. That way, when somebody's looking through there, if it's folded down, it's a lot tougher to go, hmm, there's that black or there's that, you know, yellow or pink or pomegranate canopy. Yeah, you see how that works? As far as the cloth goes, guys, there's all kinds of solutions, but be creative. The advantage is you can actually have this thing rolled, you can have these things collapsed, you can work them just exactly the way they're built. When they're collapsed, they can go right in the back of the Jeep trailer even. If it comes time to use them, they can even be used over the Jeep trailer. Now another thing about that is using the expanded frame once it's cranked open, uh... that's the most common when i have three those i got one of the another umbrella type of course off to the side and the boom type neck and really be useful we're talking about uh... you can you cut it so it does it works exactly the same way when it's compressed it it folds up and it's actually slack but when it opens up the other consideration is properly put into say a post on the edge of a trailer It can also be the support for the rest of the camouflage net so that you have a bit of a standoff away from the trailer so it doesn't look like a box covered with a camouflage net. It looks more a la nationale. See how that works? And you can actually use it to cover the area, you know, the vehicle or the trailer, preferably. This will work well with a trailer like a Jeep trailer. and you actually can come up, you know, step up underneath, pull stuff out of the trailer, keep the trailer covered up, you don't have to move anything, you don't have to displace anything. And when you're done, it's time to leave, you crank it down, pull it up out of the pole, the post pipe that's attached to the trailer itself, throw it right on the trailer or lash it down with a couple of quick bungee cords and get on out of town. How that works? So watch for the stuff everybody else is getting rid of right now. PVC pipe, especially one inch tubes, anything that's 10 foot. Watch for sales. Those are the bars that you need for your plastic PVC greenhouse slash portable shelters. All the building materials. People are going to be tossing stuff out, throwing it to the road. You're going to be fighting with the metal moths for stuff like that because rebar is not cheap and it's a lot of weight and everybody wants it. But if you can grab it fast, got a lot of goodies. So just start thinking that way at that time of year. The tactical chairs, you know what, you got them and you use them. If you decide that you can't take them with you when you drop them off somewhere, which you're probably not in my attitude, is put them where you need them and leave them. And stack them up and have them in place. When the time comes, big deal if you leave them behind. You're not going to plan on carrying them anywhere anyway, but when you come back through the area, you actually have everything you need for a pretty decent encampment. Makes for a little more comfort. Comfort's nice. I'm going to drift. out of the snowdrift that is, little legs up off the ground, little hind end out of the snow, kind of nice in that condition. And remember that if you do come into an area, typically in our area, you're going to have snow on the ground through the winter. Doesn't mean you're not going to clear it off, but you're still going to have moisture on the ground, and moisture kills. Well, if you can keep yourself up out of the moisture whenever possible in whatever way, that's why cots are nice, or improvised cots, or hammocks, It would be a real good idea. Whenever possible you want to get up out of the environment. You want to get up out of the snowpack. You know, you certainly use the snowpack for insulation. You know, we're looking at winter coming on, and so we have to plan accordingly. Anyway, just ideas. I heard a beep. Oh, more than one. We're stacking up collars, I think. The guy who was first, he knows he's first. So who do we have? We have somebody being very quiet and listening. Do we have a collar? There we go. Okay, I'll tell you what. We might have, and we have to say, by the way, we better stop right now and say hi to all of our friends in Slovenia. We've got friends everywhere. We told you so, and we actually can show that we have quite a listenership in Slovenia, so I appreciate that. And for our friends that are listening, you all be careful over there. And, yep, don't worry. The militia, the Patriot Movement are alive and well and working hard over here on this side of the water. We're not going to let this that the EU has been trying to do to them and has been doing to them. I heard another beep. Are you dizzy? Blondes are not a problem so we don't worry about that. The question I asked you, you were talking about it yesterday, I know the moral of weapons Wednesday, but I was wondering how would Tracer fare against... Well, Kevlar is actually used in bunker suits because of its lack of flammability. Now the one thing is plastic plastic still gets warm especially where he applied directly to it to that's the only thing it's great for retardation of heat you know there is discipline version or no black hole in it yeah with the poke a hole just like anything else and uh... again the tracer itself a trace on the burning the other way helps uh... if you've ever fired into a wood bank uh... or or a uh... of bank with ammunition and accidentally fired a tracer that was not marked because maybe the tip was worn off, the coloring was gone. What the heck's wrong with my impact spot? You look and you see this stuff sputtering out of the back end of the dirt. That little rocket fuel pack, that little trace element is still burning and kicking out residue. And it's kind of interesting because we've had that happen more than a few times and it's like, oh man, if I knew that I had never shot it, I want that for later. I don't want that for now. The only thing about tracers is always remember they work both ways. That's one of those Robert's rules about combat infantry operations. Tracers work both ways. Yes, but the big thing is that they do enhance, for instance, against soft skin vehicles. If you're engaging them, as long as you know you've got tracers and if the vehicle is fixed in other words kind of like if you watch it knob creek they know where the uh... fuel can put it on the vehicle sometimes or at least they're trying to find them and they've been told the others so many people thought with you know uh... ten gallon can to gasoline in them with some jolly o with some uh... diesel to throw the fuel fuel mix up what happens is when you get those uh... if you prioritize you're not wasting them. It doesn't mean they aren't going to go through everything else, just like another .308 or .223 or 8mm or .303. There's tracers in all categories. You can find tracers in every caliber type that's military that's been out there. Anything that's .30 caliber certainly you can find tracer for. But you want to prioritize, and that means also, here's another consideration. Let's say even if I had 100 tracers, if I'm not a real super marksman, but I have a man who is an accurate man with a weapon, I want to give him the tracers for priority positioning of the rounds. Because if you can keep those rounds dumped into the target, you don't need to dump 15 or 20 if you only need 3 or 5 to get the job done. If you see, punk punk punk, and pop pop, boom. Because that's what it sounds like. There's an initial flash boom and then you get the rest of the fuel because you've spread out the fuel, there's an air mix and then it's called whoomp. That's the whole point. What you want to do, see, here's the basic rule, we should mention this also, the basic rule if you had something that was volume fire, if at all possible, is you'd have one of the guys dump some ball rounds in, hit the first wave with some ball ammunition real quick, bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum. Now, after you've already hit the ambush, the kill zone, Then you dump some tracers. If you're limited in what you have, you dump the tracers into the most obvious areas where the fuel tanks are. And again, you were dumping ball rounds in there before. You've already perforated the fuel tank. You now have a fuel air mix that's much higher. As the trace element hits the tank or hits the area, it doesn't have to even hit the tank. If it passes through an area where the fluid has already been vaporized to a degree and is now mixing with the air for a superior oxygen burn, then it'll kick off all on its own. And the rest is history. Now, don't expect every time for it to be like a Hollywood dynamic explosion because that's not always the case. forward. Not with tracers, but we shot them with air 15s and different guns and explosions or anything like they show in the movies. We just kind of start to burn. You see you get a bit of a flare, you get some flame finally going, and it's more like a Bunsen burner. And that's something that, you know, again, don't expect a Hollywood, you know, I'd be nice, I mean, but it's just not the way it works. In most cases, what you're going to get, and again, this depends too. Now, as most people know, this sounds weird. but if you have a full tank of gas it takes a little more to actually ignite it whereas if you have a tank that's partially full with oxygen in the tank air in the tank then it's more likely to get a more dynamic expansion out of that that's where you'll get the eruption the reason is because again we have to perforate the fuel to get oxygen to it and then you're going to see that flare effect but I've seen them where they literally just It's like an Aladdin's candle, you know, an Aladdin's lamp. You hit it, it burns, but only where the holes are is because you started to flare, and for whatever reason, because of the other holes that are in the tank, it creates a ported venturi where the fuel, you know, the fuel is only traveling in one direction, so it works like a Coleman lantern or like a, again, like an oil lamp. It wicks in one direction and doesn't erupt. It's just the nature of things and the way it can happen. So don't be frustrated, but most assuredly the vehicle isn't going anywhere. Eventually it's going to be burning out the rest of the way. And if your goal was to stop them and keep them from using the equipment, then you've done your job. Now of course a lot of people just like to fire them up and see some real exciting fireworks. Now that's where Tracer Infundiary comes in, Blue Tip. And tracer is great, but if you've got any blue tip tracer incendiary, you don't shoot that until the day the real shooting starts. For the same reason, the tracer is valuable, but the incendiary, its job is it slaps the metal on impact. It literally is a small artillery shell. And what it does is it impacts, detonates, and so the bullet proceeds like a shotgun shell shredding the metal. improving the fuel air mix and in incorporating combustibles into the fuel which accelerate the burn uh... and that was all i know what it got yeah there were a lot of incendiary blue tip incendiary uh... and tracer incendiary and a p incendiary uh... got out there and force especially in the fifty calibers back through the nineties All those bullets were being pulled by the Donut of Destruction through a contract with a company back east. They were using a mine, an abandoned mine for the factory to demilitarize ammunition. Well, once they pulled the bullets, they could sell them. And a lot of you guys bought the bullets by the 50 caliber can. Now, the tracer and the incendiary are priceless. And incendiary AP and of course incendiary tracer, All those work, you know, just fine. They're typically World War II production, though there was some Korea and even some 60s Vietnam era stuff that came out. All right, go ahead. They made them in, you got to remember back in the day the government spent money. Okay, and you know, World War II and Korea needed Vietnam. And .30 caliber was obviously dominant with the .30-06, you know, we have a 1919 Browning gun. Then we switched over to the .308 and we reduced our options. We did not produce the range for at least not in the high production We reduced our reduction. We reduced our variety of rounds available in the US inventory now foreign countries continued to produce even when they were doing 716 NATO slash 308 Continued to produce a wide range of exotic rounds for that reason back in the late 80s a whole pile of 308 armor piercing ammunition came in it's out there. It's in storage and a large amount of incendiary came in from france mostly but also from you know from other countries like spain uh... again if you got it the idea was not to waste it so it was a recan and stored in the stuff is on stand by oh i don't know but i know where i get it yeah we want the other way once we've just a three oh eight in the service we made basically ball tracer No AP in any significant number, but some AP for research was done and for field use under certain theater operations. And then of course, blank and trainer dummy. So they reduced the, everything that we produced for the 30 caliber Browning 1919, we also produced for the M250 caliber, or you might look at it as vice versa, because there's a lot more space in the 50 caliber round than there isn't a 30 caliber. But most people think that, well it's only a 30 caliber bullet, what can they do with it? I was amazed when I did research when I was younger, I started reading and it's like, basically whatever could be put into an artillery shell. At the Frankfurt Arsenal, which was our research arsenal for every caliber we have, 45 ACP, 38 Special, 38 Smith & Wesson, 30-40 Craig, 30-06, 50 Caliber, and 60 Caliber. Most people don't know that there was a 60 Caliber machine gun. Sometimes people mention that, but you don't go, all that, you're probably thinking it was an M60. Well, at the end of World War II, they actually proposed replacing the M250 caliber round with a 60 caliber round. And they produced it in large quantities. Now, they stopped production, but they continued to leave the guns in service until about 1955, where the guns then faded into obscurity. So the 50 caliber Browning caliber, the standard M2 50 caliber round, is still in service after all 50, what, 60 years after the replacement cartridge came and went. So, I got for the M6, he got his nickname, the 60. Yeah, well the thing is that the 60 was a full case like the 50 caliber and it was designed and it was supposed to be out there in force. I don't know what theater they put it in but all the numbers and in fact well I guess hundreds of millions of rounds were made because it's listed in every chambering and every bullet type that was available for the Browning 50 caliber. I saw some examples over in Germany. Yeah, samples are very rare in Europe. I like you guys so much. Thank you and don't get dizzy. That sounds like the American way. You don't have bigger and more horsepower. That mark stamp on it and you'll find it in APIP or API. The Israelis make talking about AP, the DCM. Guys, if you can join that, keep an eye on their website. You can always pull the 300 Winchester Magnum or your 300 V Magnum, the three grain, on getting some API. I'm not a member of the DCM, but too long ago from getting me some. It is out there. In fact, what they did They probably pilfered some 12-7 Russian bullets. They probably made a deal either with the Chinese or with the Russians, because the Russians do an armor-piercing incendiary tracer, API. And armor-piercing incendiary tracer is like their specialty, their niche. It does everything. It's the does everything bullet. It's not a bad combination. The Russians, very rare now, guys, if anybody's got it out there, put it on the shelf and save it but there's a bunch of seven six two by fifty four are that years ago came in that was uh... a p i t are rehearsing in cindiary tracer and uh... we've got the multi color bands on the bullet easy to identify if the paint intact but the russian they can just get them on the other thing so in some cases the paint kind of chipped off so if you see any paint coloring with any kind of shades of brown or red or yellow on the tip of a 7.62x54 round, treat it as something special, just assume that, hey guys, that's it. Now in some cases with those rounds, if you turn the case and look at the base, another thing that they did is they put a bevel or a little track circle on the primer itself. It's just on the edge of the primer towards the outside edge, but it's a second like either step or dimple that runs all the way around like a circle. You know, it is a circle, not like a circle. It's a circle, and that was so they could, you could visibly, you know, mechanically look at something that was altered, that was different. So there's little tricks that everybody, every country's done. The IMI, Israeli Military Industries, does a lot of other stuff where they've traded out to other countries and they use their products. And that's probably what they did, because a lot of Russian vehicles you're going to run into knocked out, or Chinese vehicles you're going to run into, or anything supplied by them, you're going to find when you look in those 50 caliber cans, if there's anything left in that dashika tray, Guess what? It's going to be a mix of unique ammunition. That's worth shelling out if nothing else. If you can't save anything in the vehicles of Vernon, you grab that ammo can. Certainly grab the dashika if you can. But that ammo can's got stuff in it that's pretty unique and useful for dealing with one-shot blows to other pieces of equipment like truck motors, car motors, things of that nature. Another thing for the very mission we talked about before shooting artillery and tank barrels. When they're parked, if you put a .50 caliber hole or dent or major perforation into a gun tube, it is useless. That's all she wrote. That tube's got to come off. That's an expensive proposition. so people say well what would you aim for if you have you know vehicle you had to fire on it was part well if i'm a good enough marksman and my gun got the kind of accuracy are american rifles have nowadays we'll we can't special forces into iraq in the early days of desert dust one they infiltrated in their job with a thousand two thousand two hundred yards they were sniping artillery barrels now they were using both a p uh... rounds and they were using depleted uranium rounds and the d u rounds were used you know with quite uh... you know telling accuracy they were very old can still have to have the same ballistic potential as any other into fifty caliber so they're balanced out accordingly you have to know what the point of impact is and uh... they would will fire a shot at one of those trees one of those telephone poles when they're elevated and you do a straight round through that you know you put a hole in that thing the gun to have been the gun crew of a gun crew don't have anything to do with it and you know crank her down load her up and drag her away kids and if they don't what happened the gun crew probably won't be going home to be that gun crew you're right so the other advantage if they're not paying attention that's a good option yes guys even your thirty caliber ammo if you got a muzzle pointed in your direction you can skip to three of them down that barrel, 120 millimeter, even 90 millimeter tank or gun tube. You're just putting a couple rounds down. They get lodged down in the breech face or they get lodged down there against a round that could be possibly loaded. When they fire off that extra resource down on that tube, when they go to fire that. And one of the things to qualify that is remember anybody who's been in artillery or who has been in tanks knows that you don't just flop the gun rounds around when you're handling them. uh... damaging the outer core shields or the uh... outer uh... hall of the of a round can be activated create catastrophic failure that's why everything is case to certain way you don't see uh... tank rounds just stacked up like cordwood do you guys you see the empties you'll notice uh... there's a special containment system for each of the rounds they are handled carefully their fair they're carefully loaded handed up and you know given to the loader the loader of course This is the round in the loading rack as he prefers or as his standard operating procedure. And if a round is damaged or dinged, it is in question and it will probably not be used unless it is out of desperation. So putting a few rounds down the end of that tube if you've got something, a gun that's at rest, remember that once you can get it inside that golf ball hole, the bullet's going to ping around to get down to whatever's at the other end. it can't make any left turns. Once it's inside that shoot, it's heading towards whatever's at the other end of the muzzle. Or down at the chamber end. So it's going to hit something. And I like the idea whenever I take something lighter and do damage to sensitive, soft, chewy parts, I will. And it's worth taking the shot. And here's the thing. We have the rifle marksman with the ability to do that. This is where you have to take advantage of your skilled tradesmen. If you've got somebody who is a long range infantry rifleman, you don't want them up front, okay, or you don't want them in a situation where they're going to be just short range shooters. You want to get the most use out of each one of these technicians you have. You're close in, trigger finger happy, but still reasonably accurate to automatic riflemen. Put them where they need to be. You got somebody that prefers a shotgun, put him where he needs to be. Okay, let him gravitate to the weapons, but apply the toolbox accordingly. Well, if you've got a guy who can sit there all day and be popping 600-yard targets, it's a waste to put him behind a 12-gauge. Doesn't mean he won't hit something, but why do I want anything to get any closer than 600 yards if I've got a man who can hit you at 600 yards? See what I mean? grenade you pop that and use the fuel to 25 millimeter Warsaw pack a flake if you got to keep building your 12 gauge can do or if you carry one of the flare guns you perforate you know if you practice your flare gun it'll shoot out to 100 yards turn 50 yards and if you're that close to an engagement belt and then hit it with a flare and you will mean you won't have to you know there's igniting it right Well, that was where the initial point for all of these modified rounds was the fact that upon evaluating the potential defensibility of the Japanese aircraft, for instance, it was found that the Japanese did not use self-sealing, which are nothing more than plasticized fuel tanks. What they had was a rubber cell that goes inside the tank. They were made out of plastic. In their case, they didn't have the plastic. It was a problem. They didn't have the material. They had rubber, but they only limited them out, and they had to use that for tires. But they did not use self-sealing fuel tanks. And so they knew that if they could shred, tear, and fold and spindle enough, that they'd become flying lighters. And for that reason, where these rounds were prioritized to initially was to aircraft and then to air defense guns. So for those 50 calibers with the, you know, they made 50 caliber water-cool guns. You see them at the beginning of World War II. They prioritized the ammunition for those air defense guns. Of course, the ammunition leaked out and everybody else's, you know, spear of control because once ammunition started showing up in quantity in any way, shape, or form, it was used by the infantry whenever they could steal it and or procure it or borrow it, et cetera. It was initially because of the civic threat perception of how to deal with it and then applying the tools that were in the toolbox and from that point forward it became part of a school a doctrine that we adopted and embraced and we pretty well stuck with for a good thirty some years uh... we could use that technology today but we've got a bunch of pencil pushing being counting geeks that really are too concerned about our troops so other than the fact that they've got lots of plastic patel toy you know unique weapons are trying to bring out let's not forget bus car or whatever uh... you know that the g g thirty six there's another one uh... in round in in caliber is it really you can't do a whole lot with it so you try to get me cup the rifle because you can't give me cup the ammunition basically is what the promise in fact as they've gone to smaller rounds the promise you have less potential for variance anyway uh... in general look at what we tried to do to beef up a cartridge it really was difficult to beef up right off the bat because it was already its extreme potential for proper balance of accuracy and general range. We went from a 55-grain bullet to a 60-grain bullet to a 62-grain bullet to a 70-grain bullet, and we got some modballs in between. Then we tried to desperately expand the dimension of the throat and change to another caliber or another millimeter because We found out that, well, it wasn't quite balanced to all the missions out there. It shoots Vietnamese fine, but when it comes to other stuff in other theaters, it was a problem child, and it still is. Any of the salt-revel cartridges are limited. Go ahead, please. When we talk about 50 caliber out, Marcus, you may have seen one of these. I'm told they're out there. I have never seen one. If you read accounts from Hartman and some other aircraft, fellow angles are the equivalent of a stoop. And that was also noted by some American pilots when they would close from the tail or head on shooting. There was a 50 caliber round you guys that on the Ojive, you know, the curve of the bullet, it was as if there was a saw or a crown on it and pulled down the length of the bullet. Like you stand the bullet straight up and put a crown on it, like the old style jagged king. That was meant to at a very shallow angle with that bullet spinning on the ground it would roll. way at hundreds of miles an hour. It was meant to, as it impacted at very low angles into the sheet metal of a modern, more modern aircraft. If you guys come across one of those 50 caliber rounds, those are $40 or $60 jumping collections. Yeah, I'll just say at least. That's a highly prized trinket to put into your cartridge collection. Because what it is is people think that This is something, movies in Hollywood that conditionist that everything was a cookie cutter one thing and it was very simple and don't think about the intricacy of the era. And contrary to everybody thinks, World War II, more experimentation, more development, more research went into technologies during that war than probably any other we've been into either before or since. uh... right now iraq is a handy down leftover war with you know throw together junk as a result of your solutions Afghanistan is no different. Even the drone idea is a 50 year old project that they've got some more China sport junk they can throw into it. So while they're making a big deal. We've had fighting drones, combat drones, and all this stuff for years. It's not greatly improved. They yes, can sit there on their ars and play push-button war. They used to write songs about it 40 years ago, guys. back in the sixties and seventies about your push-button war and if you break out the popular mechanics and all the others you know storybooks about all the technology you'll find that all this isn't anything new after all you do a little work to know any idea and every idea that could possibly uh... of you know be applied that would work to bring down aircraft harder faster or did to deal with problems We actually made the effort to find a solution as quickly as we saw the problem and then insert the solution into the battlefield as quickly as possible and collect the data from the end results. The big thing is that we actually, you know, don't remember possible, evaluation of process was as critical as use. That's why you hear this term, wow, some were done, I need to debrief you. Okay, bomber crew is coming. Okay guys, we need to talk. We got a debriefing. You got about 20 minutes. We got a debriefing. Everybody grab a cup of coffee, grab some sandwiches, and be over there at the Quonset. Now, what were they doing that for? If anything unusual happened or anybody had any ideas for a problem that came up? Yeah, exactly. First thing is, what did you see guys? Okay, well we got this new... Guys, I'm gonna tell ya! i thought it was going to look like it's got a couple of sausages on the wing and it went by i could not feel propeller on it anywhere that it was either a little propeller or i don't know if you don't know it was climbing all men i'm telling you and we went by and the idea it may be a bit more bob what point next to us price off for all six six seventeen got hit by an inside fuselage and it just comes for flying the thing went by so fast i could barely see it Okay, now instead of everybody going, okay, hell, you're a little crazy in the head, 40,000 or 30,000 feet kind of did something to you without the oxygen, didn't it? Instead, they'd be like, really? Of course, they'd be taking notes, and then they'd start picking the guy's brain, who, what, where, when. And then they'd get it, where they'd ask for, you know, again, the cumulative reports. Well, what we were talking about is jets. The MB-262 showed up. And when it first showed up, that's exactly how they describe it. A plane, it's... we've heard about these rumors about planes without propellers i saw one and then it was well how did they attack now here's another example of why did you have to have been a white different rounds were developed everything we're talking about well how did your how did your uh... newtino technique for your box defense with a bill to be seventeen's work this weekend guys well i'm telling you we can put firepower here we could put firepower there but it seems like the german's figured out a way to come in on us from such and such an angle you know so many degrees and go from whatever o'clock And, you know, we lost Bill, we lost Willie because they came right in through the screen. So they would know, they would adjust tactics. And then they'd start asking about, well, how did your weapons, how did the ammunition perform? How did the weapons perform? Were they doing their job? And of course, typically there wasn't a whole lot of change there, unless new ammunition was introduced, which it was. And they were, again, including something that most people don't realize, it was called alternative ball. Alt-ball. If you ever see alternative ball, what that was was a research project that went through to fruition to come up with less strategic materials for construction of the ammunition. Now, alternative ball typically was not taken to the front en masse, but what they did is it was a project that started in 1940 and 1941, actually 1939, but 1940 and 1941 is when it was implemented. The idea was, guys, America's going to get invaded. We're going to be cut up into sections as we're fighting. We need to be able to produce in our region or in our state, you know, in our district. 30 caliber ammunition, 45 ACP, 50 caliber ammo. So we need to come up with alternatives for the steel case, you know, for the brass case, like steel or quasi steel. We need different powders. We've got to come up with different bullets. And different materials for the bullet because lead will not be available in good quantities So what else can we use such as zinc lead which happened also zinc and lead combined? And so they did actually take a certain amount of the alt Ammunition and put it out there in the bomber cruise because they used a lot of 50 cal ammo didn't they Don? Oh, yeah, well, yeah, you could find out real quick if it worked or didn't work course now They also made sure they didn't put anybody at risk They just wanted to see how much better or if it performed just in a mediocre fashion I hear the music. Marcus, thank you sir. God bless you fellas. If you want to stick around you can. You want to take a pause. Just sit back for a minute. I got your number for night vision. You can reach me at 231-796-8458. Ooh-rah. Well, I'll tell you what, we'll be back in about 6 minutes here. God bless the Republic. Death to the new world order. 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