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It's the 13th. Buh-buh-buh. No way! Not the 13th. Yes, yes. Well, it is also weapons Wednesday, so for everybody out there, pay attention. Stay tuned. We've got a whole bunch of stuff coming up here for you. We need to make sure we pass on. It's been pretty busy over here in our neck of the woods with post-Nam Creek operations taking place. We're getting ready for a couple of the training exercises that we'll be coming up here with, Colonial Marine units and some of our wool marine and independent militia formations. Should be. of fun and I think the guys at Goodtime will be had by all. This exercise includes operations that can't nag a hitch them and the Ogama ranges where we'll be receiving special 50 caliber instructions with the semi-automatic bolt and bolt guns out there. Also from the kit producers such as Zussman Ackerman guys. Zussman Ackerman 50 caliber systems are pretty popular all over the country. Everybody's been building them up. with the new barrels that are available out there in a number of different forms. For 50 caliber, half inch guns. We're looking at a pretty potent weapon system there and it's, you know, it is vehicle capable. One of the cool things about a couple of different Sussman Ackerman systems is that they are easily used to replace coaxial guns turret mounted guns of different types in the different collectors armory categories. So if you've got a Browning 30 caliber fixture on a M24 or on a R, the Zusman Ackerman B7B fits right in there and straps in and gives the vehicle a little more teeth. You know, you can bite back harder with a half inch gun guys. Anyway, Wednesday, another thing with the drippily drizzly weather, everybody's going, man, I can't get to the range. Well, We haven't touched on this in a little bit, and I think we should, because again, this kind of weather and looking at the cold weather coming up, because it's always going to be flying, some people aren't going to be able to make it to the range. Guys, Airsoft. Airsoft has gone into its own world as far as technology goes. You name it, you can find it in Airsoft, and I mean anything. If you've got a Glock, if you've got a Beretta, if you've got a Sig, if you've got a 1911, if you have a Mag Machine Gun, Mag 58, you can find an Airsoft counterpart for training purposes. There's no reason not to know how much you're going to spend. That's up to you. As long as you look at them as firearms training aids, you'll be doing just fine. And interestingly enough, I'll see you real quick here. Maybe, maybe not. I think Center Fighter Systems, www.center.com, has a number of, um, left. They have a number of special, cool packages they've come up with for the Seattle's. None of us know what we're looking for. Let's see. Package deals. Next option. There we go. Package deals. Well, maybe they kind of, maybe they don't. But, uh, the, uh, areas that are out there and available on are pretty cool in that, guys, if you're looking for a training system, this is an opportunity for you to throw stuff together online. Uh-oh, this is not good. Interestingly enough, I hate to tell you, I think we've done a pretty good job of consuming pretty much all of the airsoft stuff that they had at the Center Fire Systems. It doesn't seem possible, but I guess so. Maybe Mark? needs to do another quick pick up the phone and call. Forgive me, I was trying to find us a package deal there. I don't see it though. Uh oh, you guys may have bought them out. Quite possible. Anyway, something like I heard a beat there. What do we have? Just wanted to hold on. I'll tell you what, it's raining down here. It's raining up there maybe too. This morning, I told you about sending this weather that way. You guys, it is. It got to us. Marked it yet? How about the year of our low? And if I reach up here and confirm, yes it is the 13th of October. So that means you guys that particular action is called for and you're about to hear it. So we have one in the chamber. Slide to bad magazine slips in my hand, but it is in the well now. It is weapons Wednesday. Do things a little different. That magazine jumped right out of my hand. And that means we can offer equal opportunity coercive force. Well, you know what guys I got this funny feeling and I could be wrong on this Don but I think we bought out all of the package deals with Center fire systems for airsoft. Well, I've been trying to well good good in some ways bad for everybody else If you were a little slow, did I say that? Well, you know, in other words if you're late in the game, it's true Looks like the airsoft and unless we see something here that's jumping out that I missed and I see it Then we're looking, having to look through other resources. A lot of other companies out there dealing in Airsoft, you're going to have to shop around accordingly, but one of the advantages is, especially in wet days like this, or rainy days like this, we train on any and every day, so for us it's not a big deal. But we may not be able to get to the range, and you may be in the inner city, you could be in the rural areas, but close to other houses, you're not going to be able to drop a muzzle out the back window and fire from the kitchen. uh... days like this you got everybody coming over there also going to show up and indoor airsoft range is still the best choice and uh... pretty straightforward in fact uh... you can take it off have at the basement up and ready to go three four five shooting lanes wide and uh... go to the dollar store pick up your favorite bag of uh... u-n soldiers if they are you and soldiers will break out the testers model paint or the crylon blue and paint little blue helmets on them however you want to do it. You've got yourself a whole bucket of targets. And one nice thing about Airsoft is you have to do everything the same as you would with conventional arms. So if you don't control your breathing, make sure your cheek weld is correct. Make sure that everything is properly postured. If you don't follow all the procedures for lining up the sights and engaging the target appropriately, you will miss. So if you hit the target you get a positive feedback, a thumbs up, confirmation, good job puppy. See how that works? So Airsoft is excellent in that respect. The other nice thing is that Airsoft is not an unlimited magazine. The majority of the weapons out there have fixed mags that match the normal capacity of the weapon that they represent. So if you have an AR-15 you get 20 rounders and you have 30 round magazines. If you have an AK you got a 30 round mag. If you have a 1911, you got a seven-shot magazine. It's just how it works. And what's really cool is this forces you to actually think through changing mags the whole nine yards. So you're performing the same basic functions and you're having to think the same way about the firearm that you normally would if it were a real weapon. In this case, a training aid. I was just saying a toy, but a training aid. An Aerosoft training aid. The advantage of these tools, you know, you have to shop around to see what's out there still. Forgive me, I talked to the guys and I thought they said yes, they still had a few of the kits, the combos together, but I don't see them listed on the page. Which means there's a good indication you guys cleaned them out. We mentioned them the last time. I know everybody's swept down on them now. Because obviously, this past tense, they're gone. And we're going to start looking for another source for this office. It's cheap for you guys, where you can buy $9 item, $10 item, $15 item, whatever. Now, the other thing is that the original Airsoft weapons training aids that have been coming in are very realistic. They've been doing some oddball stuff because of restrictions on the realistic looking ones coming in. And this has started to show up in the inventories too. So, another reason why you have to spend a few more dollars on an Airsoft training aid to get the right one and what you need. Sorry about that, just how it works. Anyway, Don, what's happening up in your neck of the woods, sir? Well, you can imagine it. realistic looking or military even airsoft. It looks like it's got an AR back. Earlier you talked about and you know what you guys if you go out in the field and you're shooting bunnies and knocking down birds you should be picking up your empty cases. Much as anybody who's on the range concerned about ain't cheap and it's a finite number and you know you pull the trigger you watch the bird trigger you watch the red. Well it's you know that really is but so you might as well stop and you can make that jump. into your hand instead of onto the ground. Pocket, you know, it's going to get cleaned. It could even go into the pot. It could even be you carry your game on your back. But again, that's just another point to be made that shut high and low is valuable. I would imagine that just because it's bigger, it might be a little bit easier to bend something or make something to that shape. Knocking them birds down or making them bunnies roll, pick up them empty cases you got. And even if you're not a reloader, there are plenty of people out there who reload shotguns. about If they're still available or if they're still even in the system at all, we'll find out. And interestingly enough, high-tech... I'll tell you what, it disappeared too. That's kind of interesting. I could be wrong. In fact, I'll be corrected by BK. I know he's probably listening. But interestingly enough, high-tech had two different types or two different weights and sizes of a push-up. For those of you who are loading shotgun this is an option. You could do, actually, this is the tough guys version, how many of you do aluminum rivets or if you do rivets? Anybody out there do a lot of riveting? It's not done the way you used it, but in fact that's something that's kind of fallen out of vogue, but riveting is, you know, provide you with something that we get a lot of, but it's like, what do I do with these things? How many of you ever got these shafts that we, after you've done riveting, you know, click, click, snap, you get a metal rock. And this sounds weird, but it's really not that difficult. Now sometimes they're aluminum shaft number. The others they're steel, most common. But either way, there's now an odd piece of metal that you've got nothing to do with, so to speak. I mean, what are you going to use it for? You can use it for space. Yeah. In this case, if you really wanted to get into microengineering, let's break out the grinder. Oh, boy. And on one end of that shaft, they're all consistent length. That's what's really neat. The ear, but at least close enough you won't know the difference. First of all, you break out the grinder. You grab the little shaft and you spin one end and grind it at about a 45 degree angle to create a sharp pointy end on one. Then, there's another two options on this, to make the next step. Boy, this is a lot of work, but this is the ultimate way to make faucets if you're poor and you were doing it from scratch, which we are. You get yourself a punch that is a flat punch about 1 1 8th inch or 1 16th inch flat surface. Now what am I going to do with that? Well sounds weird but you get yourself a nice piece of flat steel you know block steel, block of metal. Something you know that was used for... This is where handles work real good except for coyotes. Yeah and you're going to basically make this into your poor man's anvil. Now one of the options you can also if long as you're using a piece of odd metal It's got to be a fairly good piece of block you can actually Take a dremel tool and grind a little slot right down the middle you can take it and cut a line and right down the middle Drive a little slot now Not very deep only half the depth of the steel rod that makes up that shaft you get from the Now you lay that in place and then what you do is you take your little punch down at the opposite end from where you sharpened it to a point and Any kind of point will do doesn't it be very fancy and what you do is about a little less than half about 1 third of the left side of the right side you take that punch and you lay it to rest Smack it now what you do is you're spoiling out one side of the little piece of metal we're talking about there then take and shift your punch to the opposite side of where you just and expanded the little metal shaft do it again and Now, this is not going to be a quad fin. You're just going to do a two fin. A little more, not quite as stable, but you just created a Fluschett. Now, you can repeat this process ad nauseam until you have used up all the little shafts that you have. And now you have a Fluschett dart to use for the process we're talking about to make Fluschett shotgun shells. They're going to be sharp pointing things at one end. We're going to have a couple of fins for stabilization at the other. Ideally four would be best, but we're not going to fight the situation. We're choosing them. The ability of them is going to start to flop and it's going to really create some yawns and nastiness when it hits anyway. The next step is obviously going to need some empty shotgun shells. We're going to need card stock and not cardboard. cardstock now this is the heavy stuff about the gauge uh... you know there was a sort of corrugated cardboard this is the stuff that basically makes up the hardbound hall of books we hear you know we have a hardbound book that's a cardboard that's a card stock that makes up the outer hole you're going to make a cookie cutter again a punch like we talked about earlier today where you can take a 12 gauge, approximately 12 gauge in diameter, piece of metal pipe, conduit works really well for this guys. Sharpen up the outer wall of that, make it however length you want and what you've got is a punch for cutting out cardboard. Now you're going to use a wood surface, make yourself up a wood board or wood surface to be able to punch on. Start at stock, lay it down and try to keep everything as close as you can so you don't waste any of the cardstock. Start making yourself some circular wads for the base. of the load. You know, to actually hold the, you know, to push the load. Now another little trick here that works is to use a small disc of metal. Making a punch that will work on most of that a little more difficult, but there are punches out there or you can actually kind of look around for stock that somebody else might be cutting in a project. An industrial site. We're lucky we got a lot of, you know, stamping plants here. Every once in a while you run into the little discs where they're lightening up a solder. They have a hole, they're drilling, you know, that they've been, you know, way if you're going to use a little piece of sheet metal, it doesn't need to be very thick. It has to be more than tin foil. It has to be enough that it's actually stable and it needs to be smaller in diameter than a 12 gauge bore shelf. Now what you're doing here, you're going to use a piece, you're going to use your whatever that you normally use. You can actually disassemble shells and build them back up guys if you're short reloading materials and you're wanting to improvise some of this. You drop the charge, you pull the wad, you save the powder charge back, but you first measure the basic powder charge. You measure the wad and the load of the charge itself, the wad and the shot one, because the wad is part of your weight formula. Always remember that. Don't forget to leave, never leave out the wad. Remember that's getting pushed down range by the powder along with the shell. and micro grains, how many grains of whatever you have count for something. This also gives you the same basic formulas for velocities. Now, we're going to put it back together, or for reloading new, our first obviously, after we've de-primed and then re-primed the case. Then we're going to put a cardboard watt in place to stabilize the powder charge. Then we're going to take one of our little under 12 gauge metal discs laid inside. And then we're very, very very systematically going to lay in our little flochettes. Now we need to make sure that however we do this, that the flochettes do not exceed the length of the standard case. This is something that everybody needs to remember. That determines how many wad layers of cardboard you may want to put as spacers between the powder charge and the metal plate that is the base. Now the metal plate's purpose is to put at the flochettes. Otherwise, remember, they're little darts in both directions. If it was nothing but a soft material, the wad would push into the sharp surfaces of the base of the planchette and they kind of stick together, creating a really would be a monster slug, I guess, until it gets to the other end, Don, and then it'd be a porcupine exploding on contact. That wouldn't be happy for anybody either. I guess that'd be effective, too. The end result is that all those little splines would go off in whatever tangent and direction they want to at whatever the velocity of the charge is. as it goes through to that would be monstrous well maybe an option never know after experimental but there but anyway little metal plate is a little metal tab uh... played at the base push-ups are loaded and you make sure that you calculate so when you close the case two ways to do this you can use a circular cramp and use a cardboard cap which like you see on the old gate shelves and server rosette cramp now if you use the rosette cramp that's not a problem but you may still want to use a cardboard cap Boy, forgive me, a piece of card stock. Stabilize the flochettes. If it does not appear that that's necessary, and this is where you have to experiment, if you're satisfied with the flochettes laying just underneath the rosette crimp of the plastic case, then you're all set to go. And remember that the energy of that plate at the bottom of the flochettes is going to evacuate anything that's in that bore, along with the cardboard wad. going to push and evacuate anything that's in front of that plate when the charge goes off. Ensure that even if there was a little stoppage or a little initial hesitation into the plastic rosette cup that's rolling over the end of the case, the metal plate everything and work as it sleeves the bore and then everything's spread. Now with original Flushet rounds in the 106 recoilless rifle and the 75s and the 90s and you know the 105 main tank guns and the 155 artillery pieces, They actually were a timed charge. So they didn't just go up the end of the tube and go, WOOO! But typically, the range, so they would go down say 100 or 200 yards and then, THOMP! A main charge would spread like a massive shotgun shell, like it was almost being carried with a wad. It varied depending upon need. Typically, Fluschett was used as a, oh hell, we're being overrun, panic, you know, fire. In the path, you know, Don, instead of having the benefit of the Fluschett round, artillery crewmen were taught to cut uses show and you'll hear about this when they give an example i always talk about wake island before the flush it was available on this is and during the civil war uh... shop was very common guys come on you all know what that great business called that's going back even farther but with the age of the shell unless it was an h e round even if it was an h e round shot was not as common nor as you know is readily available And of course the logic was, well why am I, I'm not buying this to make a big shotgun out of it, I'm buying this thing to reach something 5, 6, 7, 10 miles away. As was found out real quick, infantry don't like artillery and are trying to kill off as many of the artillerymen as they can when they can get close, right? So, for instance at Wake Island, the gunners learned to cut short, you know like for instance what they called muzzle active fuses. The fuse was cut so short that literally as the round was leaving the barrel it was active. Very dangerous for the crew, much more dangerous for whoever's in front of the artillery piece. And if you want to read accounts of that, go to the history of the invasion of Wake Island, you'll get a whole brain full of data on the end result and how that worked. Well, doing that enough and realizing that it was a little dangerous for the crew, and you know, in a panic fire, you know, the idea is to try and get more rounds out of the run, you know, say if you can do that, you want to keep doing it better, And the Fluschett round, the beehive, was the next solution, next idea or concept of how can we keep the infantry, especially in gross numbers, overrunning artillery, tanks, things of that nature. And that's where the beehive comes in. Now, what we just described for you with the 12 gauge is basically the poor man's version of, hey, I don't want them to get any closer. I want something that's going to be whizzing down range. Sounds like a bee going through the air, by the way. And when it hits at the other end, Don, probably it's going to be really good on body armor, isn't it? Oh yeah, that's the thing to go there you guys. That little sharp pointy thing on the front of these, we've talked about, be they field, tip, either one of those is going to just go through body armor unless it's the chicken plate no matter what. It's not body armor, there you go. The same thing works with the field when it comes. Get there you guys, if you're, shotguns, shells are so much more user friendly than a completely constructed crimp together and pressed because Mark, as you pointed out, you can open up the front of a shotgun shell and you can shake, shake, shake and out come the BBs and if you're more well things start. If you can move that shot out, weigh it. Weigh your base back in, you can transpose right in without it. In this instance in particular, you're going to have to work your weight formula of the existing that was in that case, right? You don't want to go heavier and go lighter. If it comes up that they don't completely fill, about what you're going to use for spacing around them as far as pack to contain them as they move down the One might think that, well, if you were to skewer them on to a slight piece of cardboard laid in behind with a piece of steel, what would be a... Now they're going to leave the barrel not being scrubbed around, and even if the... kind of be in a group. And I'm certain that the air would, as soon as it hits the air. Another thing that crossed my mind when you mentioned it, Mark, one might take a number of... use a cyanoacrylic, and one... you might have to burn a whole tube of soup... and that's going to have to count as weight also. But I wonder what would happen if a bunch of flesheck, I'm not expecting to stay together forever. And even if a few of them are shed at the bevel when they hit the target. So now you've taken all that energy, much like within a day, rafting in NASCAR and all the energy of in double up together increases its range. You've increased the range of the flesheck simply grouping them in such a way together and until they hit the target range of both, think about that. If you've got the time to spend and you do that, I'd like to hear what I think I heard something else. I think I heard a beep there, Mark. We might have a listener. We might have a comment or question. Yes, we do. Call or whoever we have jump in there, please. Marcus and George, I was going to give you all a comment on those. If you want to make your fork tip, whatever you want to use to hold them in place, is of fire foam balls or something. Boyd the glue, but it won't fly apart as much as you'd like for them really to because the clichet is the individual and small limbs. So many, even to a 410 and it's an awesome, it's a very deadly thing you've out of a Fort Vietnam that went that way parts of an area later and that man was really nailed to the tree with, I mean like you know stuck to the tree. And you're right it's ambitious. I was just curious about carrying all that energy to the target and then having it come apart. They won't do what you want them to do. The other thing even like a Fort and what y'all were saying about HECC is tremendous and what you're saying about the 50K. Guys, even a 410 slug, if it'll drop a deer, it'll do to a man. Look down your nose at a guy carrying a 410 because of the 20 gauge, 12 gauge shooting slugs, even those little, what Mark you talked about earlier, guys, even if you've got a double, and you buy those little from either Remington or called a Gila, you can load like I got a shotgun, hold 17 of them. It's a Remington 870. If your weapon will cycle those things, about a lot of buckshot, give them to somebody with a double barrel or a single barrel. It's a heavy gun, but it won't kick them too bad or you can put them in your pump gun. Shooting that big a piece of that is like being hit with the old black powder. Guys, if you ever look at what a... Same thing with a shotgun. Point to reinforce what you're saying, Marcus, is you can get a lot of little pocket pistols, Derringers, and sometimes side by side double barrels, and you can load them with that 5AP, ACP, APC, automatic pistol cartridge. The option in many instances, the same barrel, right? in Ducktown, Tennessee to go out of business. We were making a little pistol .45 long-coat and they rifled it. And what got them in trouble were taking drill presses and drilling out the rifling and making little smooth bores. .45 long-coat just won't stabilize it, but it's only for short range. Right, you wouldn't want to get hit with one of those, kid. I actually, I've got one of the early models. Dogs with it, mangy dogs with it, raccoons, snakes, short range deer hunting and the squirrel bothers you with the tree above you, little thing out and poppin'. it with that 410 shell. Short range of things are extremely wicked. Over. Well the interesting thing about this too is you were mentioning 410. Remember that the SAGAs come in 410, 20 gauge and 12 gauge. So for a magazine fed light rifle that 410 semi-auto is awfully handy to guys. They were the last ones to sell out because 410 is not as popular until they started experimenting and finding out what these Sega shotguns could do and everybody's like, wow, wait a minute, hey, the 410, that's a little heavy blaster there. Now, in either case, with either the short shells or conventional shells, going back to the Fluschett, one of the nice things about the Fluschett round is it gives you an option for to say a mix of loads to go down range in that rear guard operation we're talking about, or where you're dealing with probable armored assault forces. The Flushet will go through body armor where other things may not. It also, of course, follows least resistance. Gee, most bullets do. But what happens is it will follow the skeletal structure, penetrate and stay if that's as bad as anything I can think of. what happens is it's deflected and it follows the path of the skeletal structure like a needle, a dart, which is what it is. This is going to cause a lot of shock trauma to critical components, great discomfiture, if nothing else. The target is definitely down for the count and is looking at medical complications. We're looking at the idea that if we hit something, if it does squeak away, well, have we done our job anyway? Chances are we have. So the Fluschet does have its place. The other consideration when loading Fluschet and Shocking Shells, this is something we should mention. One of the other ways to keep it from rattling around. After you've loaded the weight, the volume that you need by weight, because you may not necessarily just want to put in as many as you can, you've got to be careful there depending upon the weight of the Fluschet itself. How many can you fit in may far exceed the normal weight to charge ratio. The number of recommended tricks, First one, the oldest and most common is to use fine sawdust as a filler so that your darts, so long in all while the whole area, you know, were spread out inside the shell. They don't just settle to one side or the other. Sawdust works because you want to bake it, dry it, whatever you can do. You can get every bit of moisture out of it you can. Moisture is always bad for anything you're doing with ammunition or with firearms in general. Sawdust will work just fine, but it has to be kept dry. Once the shell is sealed, The rosette crimp causes a pretty decent field seal so that you don't have to worry about air transfer. But here's the other half of the trick on that. What you do is use paraffin to seal the rosette at the end of the case. The primer end, pretty secure. Don't want to worry too much about that. But an old trick works really well is you can use paraffin or beeswax to seal the end of the case. Dip a little bit right there on the end or just take it on your thumb. It's hot. And wipe it across. that will seal sufficiently. You're probably using this stuff pretty quick anyway, but even for storage, the paraffin will work to keep everything dry inside. The other option is if you have somebody who does plastic work. For example, they're working with clear plastics for some form of box or cover or sheeting or window or whatever, and they've got a grinder or a drill that is making shavings. You've got to look around to see what's in your area business-wise, company-wise. Nobody's excited about plastic shavings. Nobody. Not that I know of. I mean, metal shavings, yes. In fact, they're usually going either back into the chip, if they're lucky, into the landfill. Now, what you do is you take that, and we want to find the finest powder-type material you can. But, you know, again, so that it works as a filler. And what you do is actually load this, drop this in between the fluschettes, to stabilize them so that they're not going to be just lumping to one side or the other once you've loaded them. In other words, if you were to jostle a little bit, think about what's going to happen. You're going to put them into your web gear. You're walking along, you're bouncing out of a truck, you're jumping into a truck, your stuff falls to the ground because you take your web gear off. All that energy shuffles things. You don't think about it, but the military has already researched this for years, decades, half a century, nope, even more than that, more like about a century and a half. and they've taken this into consideration. Motion and flexing is designed so that it helps to maintain consistency and distribution of your shot of the load, which in this case is a flachette, so that when it goes down range you're going to get a little better dispersion if it leaves and does everything it's supposed to do off the end of the tube. Now how much of a group or how tight the group's going to be is to the greatest extent determined by another thing we talked about this morning, which is barrel length. Do not, do not, do not, and you know it's because you brought me into this, I'm going full circle on this. Do not cut down your shotgun barrels, people. Let's put the bat faggots out of business. Two things. Don't modify your weapons and don't cut your barrels down. Whoever is typically promoting the idea, oh you got a 20 inch barrel, you could have done like 11 inches. No you don't. In fact, let's put it this way. 20 inch barrel is a nice utility grade barrel. uh... with modifying the loads and reloading your shows we were talking about here to whatever spec you want to that will determine how quickly that let load spots from the end of that too if you want to open up like you also cover the whole hallway right off the bat with trigger you don't cut the barrel down instead load ammunition for the mission and then color-coded so you don't waste it in other words yet by what the strigular amor of a buying factory it's got a lot of no opens up a certain distance I'm going to get a certain group. I'll keep that for greater range. If I need something for close, close range and I think I wanted it to open up like a sewer pipe, I don't need to cut my weapon down so short that it becomes another problem or a political burden. Instead, I use my mind and I do a little research. I reload my shells accordingly and now I've dealt with a problem. And I put a bat faggot out of business, okay? We need to put them under and that's one of the ways to do it. is, the only, all these incidents we've been hearing about, it's always the scumbags that are proposing stuff, and it's always the scumbags doing it, and then they're trying to throw it on everybody else that's around them. But guys, cut down your shotgun barrels. Don't, don't cut down any of your weapon barrels. You can change them out, but if you do, change them out to factory standard, something that's available. Now, if you have to fix a barrel that's been damaged, You only shorten it as much as is necessary to get rid of the damaged component of the barrel. In other words, if you've got a blowout at the end of the barrel or somewhere in the first few inches. But we don't hack the barrels down. Red Don made no sense to me. Every time I looked at it, it's like, why is he cutting the barrel down? Because we're beautiful. I'd be happy with that on any given day. Look at your poor Yuri when he's dragging himself back to the truck guys. It's like, well, don't be able to say, but you're bleeding to death. You've got patterns that are just so nice and tight, they're right there in the coat. You know, if we look at that as representing real life, the barrel down, so the print is all over the target, but unfortunately half the shot never hit where it was supposed to go. Instead, 100% shock trauma to the target with what they were doing there. If the depiction that you see in that video, in that movie, were real life, what you wanted it to do, you wouldn't change anything on the gun, McRift. Anyway, I know you got more for us. Go ahead, please. And Marcus, you'll probably agree with me on this, and I know you will, Mark. But when you're talking about, most people think smoothbore. And that's kind of what we've been addressing. You don't want to send those flit-shred them out, really. But you know what? If you can switch out the barrel on your MOSPER or whatever, a rifle, now you're talking a 12 gauge. You know what a 12 gauge is, you guys? Isn't that like 73 or 78 caliber? 78, 88 caliber, yeah. a big rifle but now you're talking like an elephant and you know it's since he got kicked in the head by that mule don't crack it they thought of what you just said let me talk about what about the uh... their their this dragged into the body when the help it at a hundred yards we found all in the military but how do you are they shooting a standard for the foster style for not a fabulous you know the hard-class with one a standard forster's love much as a Maude does, the Maude does have more energy, it keeps on going. 100 yards, a 12 gauge would hit just as hard and just credible what it could do. Oh yeah, again you know, it goes back to velocity and you want to throw a catam, well throw it over, we've had that discussion. But you guys, you can do this with it, you can get a 410 rifle barrel too and if your 410 will swap out, I encourage you to do that. Because you know what, think about that 12 gauge, 78 caliber. Now, you know, that's a safe. And now think of the velocity you're gonna get out of that. And again, we're trading off. We're trading velocity for a smaller, faster. A lot of these guys at 200 yards are a coffee can. 200 yards, 200 yards. With that, there's another. If you've got a smooth, and that has the ability to change out, and you don't have it yet, that should be on the next thing. Well, maybe not the next. Maybe you need some more food. But that should be on your wish list real quick. Make a suggestion. Hand loading. putting in this light cognitive burnout and if you're running a little lighter bullet you don't need all that powder side ignition and have more consistent shooting. The other thing, you'll have the end of a shotgun shell, it won't hurt anything, just a light. Guys, look into if your shotgun uses choke to shoot slugs more on the open bore and that choke for shooting a slug will give that little bit of spin. And the core thing, I just lost my trans. Well while you're thinking let me back up a little. because you know the filler you were talking about years and years ago the old timers used to go and walk into the wood and the tree and see that and come back in a couple and they'd come back in a couple and they would use it that's just for the people who wanted to be air space really when your case is straight back and we've discussed it even in your hand load when you're hand loading a 50 shell every hand loaded before it goes into the gun I stand it up straight and then without tipping it so you know there's even ways to truck the cases it would be the best fully loaded case but you might not find that in a 50 gauge and a 12 gauge guy shooting a 2 and 3 quarter standard force not the size and the other you know the new Remington's whatever standard forester slug you take a 10 inch pie plate if you have a standard a plain barrel with a B a 20 gauge and a 12 gauge that be a 10 inch pie plate 75 a 10 inch pie plate at 75 inches at 12 yards a 12 gauge will drop a little more than the 20 and will hit in the lower half. The 20 gauge will hit 2.5 inches low and the 12 gauge will hit about 4 inches low. So even out to 100 yards, if you aim at somebody's head, you're going to hit them in the upper chest or the throat or the lower face and that is night night. most important here too is again remember with the well the shot show in general one of the advantages we said rear guard operations traditional is that a couple guys with shotguns uh... now of course that this was why they were back in the nineties banning every one of the large capacity magazine fed or uh... drum fed uh... to all good shotguns because we said some poor man's walking claymore uh... but any to any shotgun that's magazine but especially also for that much you know that that that of your ammunition magazine will put more rounds down range in a shorter period of time. The 12 gauge with the extended tube, magazine or drum fed means that you can put a whole lot of volume down into the target area and with specialized rounds can select again, just as we talked about with revolvers, et cetera, you can actually stack your mags or you can fix the mags so that there are certain types of ammunition for a specific mission. That's a bit of an advantage in of itself. Certainly you can dump load as you go from gun or with a semi-auto That's a regular magazine fed physical magazine systems You know the stick magazine systems are truly an advantage and allow you to select rounds as needed I know a more rapid manner to you know where again drop the mag secure the mag replace the mag and Pop pop drum full of slugs a drum full of fluschetta a drum full of or a stick mag full of fill in the blank then bringing into the target area accordingly. Even if it doesn't penetrate or make full contact where it initially impacts, it follows, even with body armor, the path of least resistance. Up into the upper torso or down into the groin area. Either way, you know, armor's got to flex. Turtle has to have places where it can come out and do things. And for that reason, that's where the soft chewiness is going to be that's going to get whacked by whatever you're using when you're dealing with heavier threat armor. Now in some cases, just a blunt shock trauma of that 12 gauge because of the amount of energy being applied or that 20 gauge is more than enough to discourage the idea that you want to move much farther. I'm sorry, somebody comes up and smacks you with a big lead ball peen hammer, it hurts. And that can motivate people to stop dead in their tracks all by itself. If it does more, better. Just consider this when we're looking at the types of defense operations that units, especially small units, may be involved in, either in an extraction where they're, say, breaking up a siege and they're moving through a forest, or they shouldn't have been breaking contact from an area. The 12 gauge has a niche all its own, and every time you pull the trigger, and like she says in Hose Down, guys, every time you pull the trigger, it's the same as 1M16 Magazine when it's, you know, number four bucks. Okay, I appreciate it, sir. Let's go. Hoorah! Kick him in the slats, run him to the fence, or one of those mad dog-dealing chihuahuas. The second half of weapons Wednesday afternoon, the intel report will continue in a minute. Thank you, Don. Thank you, Mark God bless you. Thank you. That's M-A-I-N-E military dot com, one of the last surviving true military surplus stores in the country. 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