September 24, 2010
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The episode featured extended discussions on gardening and food preservation, including heritage bean varieties (Rattlesnake and Dragon's Tongue), composting techniques, and long-term food storage methods. Callers shared experiences with animal husbandry, 4-H programs, and livestock management, including llama wool production and dog training. The latter portion included a detailed account of a caller's confrontation with police over ID requirements during a traffic stop, where the caller asserted constitutional rights and refused to contract with law enforcement. The show also addressed privacy concerns with grocery store loyalty cards and data profiling.
- heritage seeds
- food preservation
- composting
- animal husbandry
- 4-h programs
- llama wool
- constitutional rights
- id requirements
- police encounter
- preparedness
- gardening
- self-sufficiency
- data privacy
- loyalty cards
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But he has talked about reusing, reneking and changing things over. Reuse. It may not be specifically, you know, something that for what you used. Reloading has always been something that he has always done. During the 70s, of course, there was a shortage at that time and became a very big thing. been reloaded for in police department locally here. Of course, his dad worked for many, many, many years. Different friends that were working in different areas of the Sheriff's Department. They had trained in security for the different colleges, U of M and Eastern Michigan University, which are locally here. So you would sell them to them and it was a little side cash and worked well. We still have friends that, well teachers that reload yet today and do so in math quantity as well as teach hunter safety and marksmanship courses themselves. So this is something that can be done on a regular basis and once you get into it and learn what it takes to do that, it's quite a production and you can find there are certain shells that can be cut down and reused for pistol or for other rifles or carbines ammunition. I don't remember offhand exactly so I'm not going to go there. Mark has talked about that earlier in the week but save everything. When you go out to the range, police yards pick up what other people have discarded because nine times out of ten it can be reused. So make sure that you do that. Not only that hey, the price of scrap metal. Yeah Whatever you it's definitely it's extra cash. That's one way to look at it and Trust me if you go out to where the police are gee, they've been out firing Those people never pick up the breath. I mean never pick up the breath. They leave it everywhere and You know typically it is they bought a new bucks new because you know $5 or paying for their paychecks and they haven't been hurting. I'm gonna tell you that right now when they start out They're starting to pay at $40,000 and $50,000 a year. They're not hurting typically here. It's like 55 58 thousand. They started wages That's ten years of my salary It really hurts and then they're and then they're jack-footed thugs on top of it I think we will have a caller. Hello. I'm just listening. Just keep talking. Alrighty. Well, thank you for the call. I'm glad you're listening. It's, uh, I don't know, this is kind of where we're at. We have lost power on and off today and Spike has been very kind to pick us up and curious tonight because it has been intermittent and we're afraid of losing my computer. No, we've lost too many. I don't want to go there, not with the end of year bill coming up. I do want to mention that real quick, that's quick, quick, this time, that if you haven't helped out with the Live 365 bill, folks, go to the LTR. on our main page, www.libertytreeradio.4mg.com. Please use that chipping because we're running out of time. We really, really don't want to downgrade our service here, folks. We want to make sure we're up and running for a long time. That means that we're done. I've been preparing the garden for next year. Our leaves are starting to fall here. I went out and I pulled up all the plants that are no longer producing and worked the area that they were in. And now we will be taking tarps full of leaves. Well, Spike, you've seen that massive sugar maple in the front yard. Yeah, when those all come, if they come down all at once, then I'm usually knee deep in maple leaf. And there's a lot. So I can take them back, put them on that garden. I will be going over the garden this year with a large black plastic so that that cooks down over the winter so I can get use of that to make some really nice soil for next year, work it in good. So I'm using less fertilizer to get that pH level right where it needs to be. I did experiment using the lasagna gardening this year with the potatoes. It worked OK. It could be better, and I think this is going to help. even more to get this in there and then of course the compost saving all the garbage from the kitchen the eggshells and peels and whatnot that are not usable be it the rinds from from watermelon or whatever have all gone into the compost bin and layered in there with the grass clippings and this and that that will be another layer that is on there as well. So that will cook down over the winter underneath that plastic and should really do a nice job for enriching the soil for the spring, for spring planning. So that is something that we're working on. This is the next step. But our beans, our crazy, crazy beans are still producing. We just took another gallon of beans off the, well, yeah, about a gallon bucket. half a two gallon bucket full of beans again last night and about every two days we're pulling that much off. So we're still producing beans using the Southern Pole Bean Rattlesnake and another one that produced very very well for us, both of them are ever bearing, is Dragon's Tongue which is a wide wax It's a yellow bean but it's an Italian yellow bean with purple stripes on it. It was one that was purchased for me by accident. I had ordered one thing and they had explained it was a green bean with purple stripes on it and they saw the dragon's tongue and bought that right away and sent that up to me by accident. But those worked out very well for a bush bean. Those are also continuing to produce. The beans are still coming off. They got so tall, they actually bent over the trellis and have been protecting some of the tomatoes. My cherry tomatoes and some of the beefsteak tomatoes are still producing as well because they've been protected from floss. I'm amazed that the beans have been doing this well even though everything else has pretty much died off out there. Most of the squashes are gone. I still have one very hearty volunteer acorn squash. It came up right next to my tomato and Mark was like, well, you've got to get that out of there. We're going to have to move it. So leave it where it's at and let's see what it does. And it went probably 20 feet down the aisle one way and then out of the garden, the opposite direction, another 15, 20 feet. So this crazy long thing has produced about 15, 20 different acorn squash of good size. And there's still more blossoms on it now, so I'm not complaining about that little volunteer plant at all. It has produced better than anything else they put out there as far as squash goes, or even the melons of anything I put out there. It was just... something probably even tossed in from something we ate last year and just you know got get tossed out there with the rinds. I tricked it this year. I put in a garden the last two years and didn't get anything out of it. Had a lot of stuff come up a lot of stuff start growing but nothing went to fruition. Everything either dried up and died or rotted on the vine. My tomatoes they grew so fast that they busted the seams. And Larry told me that I watered them too much. So I, that kind of, I went, wow, the year before I didn't water them enough, this year I watered them too much? Darn. So I tricked him. I took the money that I would have spent on a garden and the seeds and the rototiller that I would have rented. And I went and bought canned food and stuck it in the closet. I tricked him. You cheated. It's a learning process. Tomatoes, when they get to a certain size and if it's been dry and then all of a sudden they get a lot of water, they will burst their skin, they'll pop right open. If you don't use them right away, you will lose them because the outer skin seals the bacteria out. So yeah, I mean even if they're green take them in slice them up put them in the freezer for you know fried green tomatoes You can use them as a pickle relish there is a green tomato relish recipe that is really good There also is you can use them and a jam using Raspberry jello to flavor it And even with the seeds in it, it has a very similar flavor of raspberry jam using the green tomato jam. Very good. But yeah, nothing goes the way you steer. Not if we can help it. And that's the thing. If it bursts its skin, go out there and it doesn't matter whether it's green or red, get it off the vine. The more you pick too and again using Epsom salt water like I was telling you before will help it to produce more blossoms and keep blooming because if it gets pulled off there before it's fully ripe, the plant knows that. It will actually start to produce more blooms. Keep doing it. Keep picking them off. I've had that experience with other growing operations. It works on just about anything, flowers. If you've got one growing up there, you pick them off, you'll get two growing back. Exactly. Exactly, because the plant is trying to reproduce itself into the seeds. And once it's fully ripe, those seeds are ready. So yeah, you can take the seeds out and dry them for seed for next year unless it's a hybrid. We want to go with a non-hybrid seed, something of a heritage, vintage. Beans I'm talking about are exactly that. They are a heritage non-hybrid seed. You can do a search for them. Rattlesnake beans, pull beans, and the dragon's tongue. excellent producers. The one thing I can tell you about the rattlesnake beans and I've done this in a 50 foot row. It was more than I needed, trust me. I didn't think so at the time because I was used to my mom's beans. The first picking I got out I put them in early and kept them covered in April. Danger of frost, kept them covered and they grew beautifully. Oh goodness, they'll grow 6 or 7 feet. I think they won't actually collar this year. They just started going back down my trellis and very, very heavy. But I got a bushel from the first time it made beans really good. And you have to go up here and pick them up every other day. The second time they made, they went into flour again, they kind of went dormant for a couple days, and then they went into flour again, and I got two bushels the second time, and the third time, three bushels. So you figure out six bushels of beans off of 50-foot roll. It's a very hearty producing bean, and the thing is with these beans, you not only have your green string beans, They've got a purple stripe on them. But if they get too big, you can shell those, dry them, and use them as a dried bean. Or you can do it as shelly beans. If you've seen that in the store where you've got some of their shells and some of the cut green bean, you can do that with them. Or save them for seed for next year. because they are a non-hybrid. You can actually produce your own seed and keep it around, dry them out, and it's ready to go. I always like to save like five plants just to go to seed. I'm doing that right now with the Heritage lima bean. I only had one. They were kind of, they sat on the shelf too long. I had one plant come up. and Ethan's been out there, but they're ready. Say no. Need that pen alone. That's my seed. She keeps asking, but no, that's my seed. Leave it be. Let them go till they're brown and we'll pick them before the pods burst and I'll have my seed for next year. Yeah, that's the way to do her. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I feel like lima beans. And that's, you know, I grew up on that. My folks are from the South, so. beans and greens and lots of vegetables in the summer. We existed up that for many years and that's fine by me. I don't mind that at all. Little salt, pork and beans and away you go. It's something that it's simple to do and can be put on the shelf. You can dry them, you can can them, you can freeze them. So, your choice of how you want to preserve these things and keep it big. But a 50-foot row of beans like that that will produce, you know, if you put them in early and take care of those plants, they're going to produce for you. And you're going to have enough for your family, whether you freeze them, you can freeze them, dry them, and can them. Whether you do the dilly beans, whether you do, you know, do salt water, pack beans. or dehydrate them, cut them, blanch them, dehydrate them, and you've got some good eating for long-term storage. And that's, to me, critical, especially in this day and age. I mean, if you get into a point where you have to worry about, you know, are McCann goods going to freeze or are they going to lose your seal? You've got a problem, but if you dry them, you blanch them and put them in your dehydrator and dry those beans. You can put them into the one quart jars that you use for mayonnaise, those lovely clear plastic things. You can see what's in there. They're a beautiful color. And take them out and use them. You can make your own soup mixes that way with dried potatoes. And again, that's something that you need to power cook so it doesn't turn brown. A lot of people don't know that. That's something you can do. Whether you peel it or not, that's up to you. When you dry it, you're taking the moisture out of it and it will not go bad when you have enough moisture content taken out. That is a given. If you have moisture content, then there is room for bacteria to get there and breed. That's what you've got to get away from. You want to dry it thoroughly. You want it to be where it will snap apart. Carrots, potatoes, beans, celery, onion, mix them all up and you have your own soup mix. You don't need to buy that dried soup mix that's 1 to 2 dollars a pound. Getting your beans together and getting that simple easy stuff that you can do yourself. You don't need somebody else to do it. Anything that you have left, the stems, the ends, the pieces, Fill it in the garden, that's your compost, that's your fertilizer for next year. If you've got a local farmer, if he's got animals, he's got lots of fertilizer. Llamas are really nice because they digest everything, all the seed. And so you don't have to worry about weeds coming up with what they have. And it's not so hot. You put it down in the fall, and by spring, it's ready to go. You can't see that with common manure. Common manure will stay really, really hot and burn the seeds and the roots if it's not aged long enough. We've used stuff that's been seven, eight years old that works fine, but most farmers don't let it sit around that long. Finding a source, because trust me, there's somebody out there that is looking to get rid of the excess waste products. I just don't like llamas because they chew tobacco. I've been spit on a couple times by llamas. It's no fun. At the zoo, you know. The one farmer that I know is a llama farmer and he has one, has that problem. We broke him. We broke him from spitting because you could not get 15 feet from that animal without him just spraying. It was like a shower and it was you know 15 feet out and around He was terrible. What is his feed bed? We left the feed back on his face and when people walk up to him He'd go to spit and with that thing out of his face he got and he got enough spit on his own face from having the feed bag on He stopped. Yeah, that would kind of do it. I think Yeah, but that's what it took to break him, but he was a champion stud Beautiful animal beautiful babies. Oh my god But just when it came to people man, he did good. I don't like you Regardless of how much contact you had with him he did that to his owner That was my suggestion. It worked. I don't know if it's cold or red, but it's no fun. Not even, but oh man. The other ones he had were just so personable. Little one he had was called Winston Churchill went to a petting farm. He would just come up and he would nuzzle your neck. He just couldn't get close enough. Just a big baby. Oh my gosh. He's like Bruce, the big baby. Bruce probably outweighed Winston. Can you share those and weave the wool? The wool is very expensive. The wool is very valuable. You're talking $32 an ounce for llama wool. Last time I checked and that's been a long time ago, so maybe higher than that. But yeah, and they will share them in the summer because they can't take the heat. I mean, they're used to the Andes Mountains down in Chile. So that's what they're used to, that snowy climate. And they train them as pack animals and so on. He actually has 4-H groups, which is how I came in contact with him, was through 4-H. And he had the kids train them. to go through the different obstacle courses and then sell them. And the kids got a portion of the sale that they could put towards whatever. I've been to the hall shows. I've been to the cowl shows, but I've never seen a llama show before. I grew up with four H-fares. Yeah, they will take them through water hazards, through tunnels, and different things like they're going into the mountains. You know, but like a horse they have to be trained to go across that water to go across the bridge to get you know Across that water. Otherwise, I don't like that running water thing at all Well, my cousins always had pigs and stuff in those shows So I went to quite a few of those when I was younger, so I know what you're talking about I don't could be funny to see it do it with a llama though They're own they have some they have some really pretty ones, but that wall is Yeah It catches a you know, it's quite a quite a bit of difference when you you go over to the sheep the sheep pen and they're you know got a big garbage bag full of full of Lambs wool there for 25 bucks and a whole big bag of it. Where'd you go over to the llamas? It's like 32 bucks an ounce Okay Yeah, a little bit of difference. You got the guy on the street corner with the trench coat, hey, you want to buy a watch and some llama fur? Oh boy, that's kind of, that's an interesting thing to get into. And we had a lot of fun with that. Well, sounds like a good money making venture there for somebody who had a few of them that they could share every year. It would definitely be some nice. And the thing is, these are animals you need to... work with and train or else they are not going to be personable and they have to trust you and you trust them. Just working with them enough daily so that you get that. Put them on a lead and get them to follow you and walk where you want them to walk and go where you want them to walk on cue. That's it. Being able to do that and making sure you have... The wolf sticks that you use basically to get them to do what you want them to. They are graded on their stance, how they stand, their fur, their care, the knowledge of the hooves, the homing yards, and how they are breeding the pedigree. It's all there just like as you have with your cattle and your pigs. It's an education, let me tell you, when you start to work with these animals. They're amazing, they really are. Regardless, you get into animal husbandry of any kind and you learn so much very quickly because of what is necessary to keep them going, keep them alive and keep them A, parasite free. Not with just external but internal as well to make sure that they are healthy animals so that when they go to market and that is the whole thing with 4-H and farming is when they go to market that you fetch a good price for a healthy animal that is a viable product. I think I went again this year. with the store that I work for. They went out and they bought a lot of animals, a lot of Grand Champions. They put out quite a few dollars. I think the thing that amazed me was the Grand Champion chickens. There were three of them, 100 bucks a piece. But everything that was there was taken and taken to a processor and all of that was given to a shelter so that people had you know, meat to go home and they could cook it or go to the soup kitchens. But you know, all this stuff goes to a good cause and it teaches these kids how to manage the paperwork that's involved. These are all very important things, life lessons for them that they learn growing up. I think that's an important thing because being able to manage, know what it costs to produce that animal and their final cost, what they got back out of it so they can actually figure their profit and the time that took to raise that animal and get it to the market. It's quite the process and it's a good program to get into folks. You know, with 4-H. Be it if you're in the city or not, that you can still become involved. As a matter of fact, a couple of goats that we got many, many years ago when the kids were little were 4-H goats from a girl in Ann Arbor. I don't know how they hid these goats. I'm going to The kitty that we got from you guys, Thomas. He loves to watch the Animal Channel when the cats are on. And when they have lions and tigers and stuff, he'll sit there on the bed and he'll watch. He'll sneak up on the TV and he'll just... And then when the commercial comes on, he'll lay back down, you know, he's like, darn, where'd they go? And then they come back and he gets all interested again and he'll start sneaking up on the TV again. He's a funny cat. He's very well mannered and a very smart kitty. Hey, Breeze, first couple. When my girlfriend leaves early for school, she's going to school to be a nurse. When she leaves early and it's my turn to feed them, sometimes I'll forget until 5.30 or so, they usually get 45. He'll send the dog down here at 5.15 and if she's not back up there in a minute or two, he'll come down and sit on the floor right here and look up at me. He'll sit right next to her like, are you going to feed us? You're still at that 3.34, 4 a.m. feeding time, aren't they? Oh yeah. Sorry about that. Oh no problem. We broke him of that habit real quick. We just shut him out of the bedroom and he finally got used to it. He's one of the two cats out of our four that actually know how to handle a dog. and they play a lot. Go on, let Bruce do that for you. Yeah, but my other cats, the other two cats, they don't seem to get that if you don't run, it won't chase you. Right. And my big bull cat, Jack, he walks like a bulldog. He's got that puffed up chest and he's big, you know. And when he meows, he doesn't go meow, he goes meow. So him and the dog get along until a person walks in the room, but as soon as they realize that somebody's in the room watching both of them being nice to each other, one of them will start growling at the other automatically. And I'm like, look, you don't have to put on a show just for me. You guys were doing fine until I walked in the room. Yeah. But he's not afraid of her. Even though she can snap him up pretty easily, he'll chase her through the house, spitting and cracking. And I've never heard a cat do that before, but it's a really loud snapping sound that he makes with his mouth and it just scares the daylight out of the dog. It's almost like a super loud bat click. You know how bats go click, click, click, click, click? Well he does the same thing, it's like snap, like a really loud snap of a whip or something. And the dog just pooks around the corner and then he chases her and then she'll chase him back. I think they're having fun. Yeah, you're doing game. I know sometimes he gets pretty serious, and I know she's playing because she just like I just want to play with She's still puppy. She wants to play She'll be two in November and She's still got quite a bit of puppy left in there for two So I think she won't be probably full-grown until she's about two and a half three and she's about 115 pounds right now and her dad's wow her dad's 150 pound German Shepherd So wow, and she looks exactly like her daddy too and From what we've heard from people that have gotten the other puffs from the litter. She's the only one that's as smart as she is The rest of them still potty in the house. They're not housebroken We didn't have to do anything with her the first day she was here. She started to go on the floor We said no you go outside and ever since she has went outside every time. That's cool. Yeah. And it makes me awesome. But it was the mommy dog that taught her all that. And very good dog, you know. Couldn't ask for a better dog. Too cool. Yeah. And you have them like that. The mama is really, really good with them and teaches them. No, because they'll get to like, no, we don't do this. She was only 10 weeks old. You're not going to do this. And they come up with that. She was only 10 weeks old when we got her too. And it's you know it it makes a difference. I hear your baby's in your background. Yes mommy just brought me one of her one of her the latest ones. Ah you have another bat. It's the screamer of the bunch the other ones are sleeping I think she hauled this one out because he's too noisy. Here you guys deal with her I'm sorry. So what color are they? It's still this one. Are they the tuxedo cats that Mark's been talking about? These are the white ones. Oh goodness. We have that left and that right. One has a dot on the right hand side, the other one has a dot on the left hand side. The rest of them is white with a little black striped tail, or gray striped tail. One of each. Oh, cute. Yeah, but just little sweet things. Oh my goodness. We can tell a lot of us patriots love animals. I love my animals like they're my kids. I think we all do. They're just, you know, I did just make a list complete. And I have a little knife. They're sweet little things and goodness. Find good homes for them. We found out what kind of metal my dog was made out of last weekend. Me and my son Jimmy took her for a walk. And this dog came flying out of nowhere charging us. And I grabbed the leash real tight and I'm like, oh crap, what's getting right happened? And this dog, you know, it was charging us. We're just walking down the sidewalk and the dog runs up to us, starts sniffing Liberty. And she just went ballistic, ripped into his face. Fur was a flying. I went, well, I guess she's pretty tough. And the guy's dog that it was, he was yelling, get back here, get back here. He come walking out on the street and I was waiting for him to say sorry about me and my dog attacking you but no he just turns around and walks back in his yard. Didn't say anything. And I was like, sorry. That's not cool. Like yeah man, what the hell? Your dog attacked me, you're lucky that I didn't pull out my knife and stick it. Because if a dog comes charging at me like that, I don't know. I'm not above taking my knife out and dealing with it. I've had to do that with other dogs. Well, he's living in a neighborhood and there's children. He better be thinking about that dog getting loose and letting loose on his kids. Right. Not cool. Not cool at all. Nope. And the dog wasn't like big or mean or anything, but the way it charged across the yard through the street, you know, onto the sidewalk across on the other side of the street at us, you know, I've dealt with... the neighbors pillow when they get out, you know, and you can't get to your car because the darn dog's getting ready to attack you. I had to keep the dog's attention while my ex-wife and the kids got in the car to go to school. And then when they got up, I'm like, dude, I about killed your dog. And he's like, what? I'm like, if your dog messes with my family again, I'll be forced to have to take my machete to it. Well, you wouldn't do that. Yeah, I go, well, if he's going to bite me, you're damn right I am. I don't know that dog. It all depends on who raises them as to what they are like because my my sons and my ex-wife at their home They have a pimple Rottweiler mix and she's just the sweetest dog Oh, yeah, you wouldn't even think twice about her being mean but if she got mad or thought that they were in danger Oh my goodness. Oh, we unfortunately a couple about a month or so ago. We had to put down our dog spirit She had something really bad wrong with her she started losing weight real fast and just she laid down one afternoon and didn't want to get back up and She had some swelling behind one eye and when I went to check her over and give her a physical like Mike Nasser had taught us to do Yeah, I was checking her eye out and it wasn't pushing her eye out. It was pushing it back to the side so there was something between her eyes growing that was pushing her eye over to the side and That's this She was my dog and I left her down there and I didn't get to see her much the last two weeks She was alive. So I was really sad. I'm still sad. Yeah I've got her picture up on my desktop all the time and it hurts to talk about it. But you know You got you got to move on and She's up there not feeling any pain anymore able to run around and play like she used to so yeah That's what makes that's what makes it all all well in my heart. I know the creator. Yeah, he's taking care of her right now, so and That made the other dog step up because she was always the follower and now she's got to be the protector and my dog taught her well She announced barks. She never used to bark before announce your bark So that's a good thing. It brought her out of her shell. Yeah. That is good. That's what we have our dogs for. They are a warning system. They are our protectors. And I don't know what you would say, but the dogs that we had were very protective of the children. Going out there, that was a major, major role for them. I knew that if The dog was outside with the kids. They were fine. There is nobody or nothing that's going to mess with them. Not if they're smart. If they're not smart, then they pretty much what they deserve. But yeah, the only other time, the only time I really had a problem with the dog is had a UPS driver that was like, get that boy from me, and started shouting with Ethan there. And that was it. You know you don't yell at my kids And that's the way that dog listen. Those are his kids, and you don't yell at his kids If she sees the UPS truck just going by she goes nuts When the cops about the diesel would drive them crazy low-frequency vibration, I think it hurts their ears We lived across the street from a grain elevator when I was a little kid when I lived in Sweetser, Indiana and we had a grain elevator right across the street from our house and whenever the semi trucks would come in full of grain that low frequency vibration of that and even the train We there was a train track right there of course right by a grain elevator and when the trains would go by that low frequency rumble would just tear her ears up and She was a German Shepherd Pincher mix and are not pincher Yeah, Doberman pincher German Shepherd mix and she would drag the swing set that we had her hooked up to from one end of the yard to the other But she would never drag it out of the yard Wow, very well could but she didn't so we got smart hooked her up to the clothesline so she could run back and forth, you know Yeah That runner's a tough dog I saw her got hit by a car She got off her leash one day and took off running down the street Ran out in front of a car car was probably on going about five miles an hour But she bounced off the grill and just got right up and took off running and I ran across the hood of the car chasing her And the guys sitting in his car going what the hell's happening? Sorry my dogs Little crazy, let's get it ran into ya go see grandma so that's where I found her that when I finally cut up whether she was at grandma's house Wow, no the dog hardly knows grandma. Why would she go there weird? Sometimes dogs do some strange things Liberty she doesn't have a problem alerting you if a leaf fell out of the tree or if there's a squirrel in the front yard She'll definitely let you know and if six police officers have me surrounded out in the front yard like they did a month ago She definitely wants to go right through the window. Oh, yeah She was itching to get out there and my girlfriend's doing everything she can to hold her back and then she came outside and was like what seems to be the problem? Well, they don't like it when you don't want to show them your ID Nancy. Oh, I know Tell me about it I reserved my right to contract, and I waited until there were six of them there to witness me going into contract under threat duress, coercion, and fear of my life. And when I said that, they all kind of looked at me. The city cops looked at me like, what's he talking about? And the county cops started laughing because they knew exactly what I was talking about. So I had three city and three county cops rounding me out here on the sidewalk because I wasn't showing my ID. As soon as I said well, I'm not going to show you my ID. The guy reaches down to his mic, I need all available backup. You know, like, oh, here we go. The fun's about to begin. Oh, you're afraid, are you? Well, he tried to play me. I told him I have my bag and I just stopped at the natural food store and got coffee. And I said, it had been raining that day. So I said, well, you check the VIN number because they, well, it's a stolen moped just like yours. Yeah, sure. You're going to pull over every blue and silver moped today, officer? I don't think so. And how many were made? Right. There's eight of them in our neighborhood. I knew he was full of it right there and I said, well, it's raining and it's been raining today so I'm going to take my bag and my coffee up here to the porch. And he goes, okay. As soon as I grabbed my bag and my coffee and started walking from the porch, he starts screaming, don't run, don't run. I said, don't go there with me, son. Oh my God. I had a paint scraper. Actually, I got it. I can show it right here on EStream as a matter of fact. I had a paint scraper in my back pocket that I used to scrape the floors. and he snatched it out of my pocket and I grabbed it by the blade because that's what was sticking out of my pocket. It's the funny shape scraper that has the little hook on the end of it. Oh my. I don't know what you're talking about. It has the curve on one side and it's straight on the other and it's kind of shaped like a T. Also used for cutting linoleum. Yeah. Well, he screamed up that's a weapon and I go no it's not And he's yanking on it and I let go and he jerked back, you know cuz I let go real quick and he goes Yeah, you cut me and I go where and he held out his arm. There wasn't even a scratch there It didn't even come close to his arm. So I looked in the camera on the car and I went there's no scratch on his arm just for the record That really And then you know they started pulling up one by one. Here's another one. Here's another one. I'm glad you guys are all here to see this here I'll give you this under threat and arrest corrosion and fear of my life and the guy went fear your life. I looked around I went well, there's six people standing around me with guns and tasers. I'm in fear of my life aren't I? Sworn ass he says and goes back to his car And then they say, well, if somebody got killed, you would want us to stop them if it was one of your relatives. I go, not unless they did something to violate something for you to stop them. You don't have any probable cause to stop me just because I was riding down the street on the blue and silver moped is not probable cause. You can try it with some of these other idiots, but I'm not your average bear, sir. I'm not part of your corporation. And right there, they started going, oh, what? I go, you're a corporate policy enforcement. What you're telling me is not the law. The law does not say I have to show you my ID. Your policy says I have to show you my ID. But I have the right to contract with whoever I want to, and I chose not to contract with you at the time. I still choose not to contract with you, except under threat, duress, coercion, and fear of my life. And another city cop was talking to me at this point in time, why are you trying to give this guy such a hassle? I'm like, yeah, the good cop, bad cop thing ain't working, dude. Yeah. I had enough. And when he said, I need to see your ID, I said, no, you don't. Now, there's lots of other ways I could have handled that. But at the time, I thought, well, with all this new knowledge that I have with the law and the court system, maybe this is time to try it out. So let's just see what happens here. If anything, all I would have been in trouble for was failure to show my ID. And I would have really, really loved to. Had sink my teeth into that one because that's such an easy one to do and at the same time What I would send them they would not be able to answer and they would go into default and then I would lean the courthouse Put a lean on the bud meeks justice center and just just for kicks That would have been fun, but they stopped So hey, we got about nine minutes here left until the yeah militia town hall meeting starts up As a fact, something Ed was saying, he's having problems still out there. So he's going to need your help, continued help if you could. No problem. We're still here. I got some Skype credits. As long as my Skype credits hold out, we're good to go. I don't have any more money on my Walmart preferred money card thing or whatever it's called. I got one of those just so I could have a place to where I could some of these places They don't take mail order. They want your debit card credit card That's one thing people can do to help out in the station and help yourselves out, too If you're looking for stuff online and you don't want a credit card You can go to Walmart or you can go to grocery stores where they have the green dot Walgreen does it You can get a prepaid money card. That's yours all the time It's not just one you pay 50 bucks for and then it's done when you're done with the 50 bucks You can keep recharging it the one oh wow the one drawback to it is they charge you $3 a month service fee and so Yeah, you put enough money in there at the beginning To cover an entire year of $3 a month at 36 bucks and then you don't have to worry about it. And then whatever money you need, if you need a power supply or you need to donate some money to libertytreeradio.4mg.com and you go scroll down on the right hand side of the page and click chip in and use your little debit card to throw a buck or two in the tip jar there at Liberty Tree Radio and help us meet that deadline. There's a way for you to do it if you don't already have it and the card only costs $3 to purchase the card itself. Not a bad deal and you help yourself out at the same time. That's cool that it's rechargeable. I wish you know I know through a bank we can we can get the visa Visa gift card and those are one-time use they're not you can't reload them. These are visa reloadables. This actually goes through as a visa transaction. Right. So at Walgreens, Scott's Grocery Stores, which is now Kroger, they were Scotts here locally, but they sold out to Kroger and Kroger decided to keep the name Scotts on them because people weren't going to go to Kroger. They were going to find some more. They went out of business up here too, but they sold out to a number of different companies. Well, you know that oh Goodness grocery stores now When they started that up and they came out with those cards here at this one down the street from my house I started telling the the cashiers. I'm like, you know what they do with this, don't you? No, I said well they take all the information they get from Kroger when they turn in all these numbers They've got your name attached to the number on this card and they make a psychological profile out of it And she's like, really? I'm like, yeah, that's what this is all about. It's not about discount. It's about finding out what you buy and making a profile out of it. It's merchandising profiling. Absolutely. So what they started doing was they just started handing out the cards, telling people, oh, you don't have to fill that thing out. Just there's a card for you. And then people are standing in line and they'll be like, oh, man, I lost my card. And somebody else behind them go, oh, you can use my card. So it's like the old thing at the airport, you know taking pictures of anybody who Putting anybody's name down and takes a picture at an airport or anything like that for security reasons garbage into the system Garbage out so right and you know what when you fill those things out It's like it's like going online the profile that you put in for yourself Make it up. It doesn't have to be because all of that is marketing information and they will go to a marketing corporation that will, oh gee, they like this, let's send them these cookies or that cookies and advertisements that wind up popping up on your screen. So be aware of that. That's that's how the game is played relatives of mine that that are on Facebook and they go I thought your birthday was in such-and-such a month, and I'm like Yeah, it is. I don't put my real information on here. You guys shouldn't either. Well. Why not? Come over and listen to my program instead of going oh my goodness He's involved with those militia people and never answering me back again Yeah, most of my relatives that I found on Facebook they go hey, how are you? What are you up to? How have you been and I tell them all about the kids and everything and then I go and I've been involved in the militia for the last couple years trying to wake people up to what's happening in our country and fighting for our freedom and here's the website here's the The network go check it out and then I never hear another word from them, right? Yeah It's unfortunate, you know, and it's funny because you can know these people for years and years and have that happen. I know Ed has played World of Warcraft and been on the chat with them and talking and playing for years and then of course they had this thing come out, the ADL. the new commander, national commander of the militia with his name. And of course, well, unbeknownst to him, the one lady is, works for FEMA, Black Lady evidence out of, oh gosh, she was out of Tennessee, she's moved now. But does work for them. He's like, that's not you. He's like, yeah, that is actually, it's kind of funny. So they all had a good laugh. Because she had known him. I said, well, you don't seem to have a problem with me. It's like, no, don't. I told him about Dak Robinson. Dak is just a wonderful man that we have thoroughly enjoyed for many, many, many years. He was here doing programming with us and teaching different people via this forum about the Constitution. A better versed person in the constitution you couldn't find. But, you know, dear friend and sorely missed a day yet. But, you know, these fools on the other side don't get it. And I can tell you when they raided the house here, that was one thing that just threw them because they had a picture of Mark and Doc up at the state capitol steps. And I swear every five minutes they would come back. The one person that was a child would come back to that front door and look at that picture and stroke the face, stroke the chin and try to figure out, where do we go home here? The black officers that they brought out of Detroit. When he finally had the guts to ask me who was this guy that Mark was standing next to, basically hugging arm in arm, who was this guy? And told him, just who Doc was. He was the first black surgeon in the state of Michigan to be able to practice his trade without having to wait for a white doctor to show up so that he could perform surgery. in an emergency situation. He sued for that right and won. And he has done so much for this nation as a doctor and as a patriot that there's no explaining it. Folks, I can't say enough about the man. But these goofs don't get it. They got it, they have been told by certain individuals that were white supremacy. We hate anybody that is not of our background which is malarkey because if you have ever been to a meeting here, you know every denomination has walked through these doors in one form or another, be it Jewish, be it Catholic, be it Protestant. Even the other picture that was there was another black gentleman on the wall and that was with Robert Henry out of Detroit. Love Robert, if you happen to be listening. Elderly gentleman, again another World War II vet. But he's a yogi. So, you know, we've had a little bit of everything walk through this door and no one has been turned away and had never had a problem with anybody. So I think I hear the music. Yes, you do. It must be that time. Yes, ma'am. Good word, sir. Oh, my. Well, we will be back at 8 o'clock with more of the Intelligence Report. So you all have a good night, and we'll have Mark back here for that 8 to 9 o'clock session. God bless. God bless and good night. God bless the Republicans. God bless the New World Order. We'll tell prevail ladies and gentlemen got the Empire on the run. We're on the march day at night I'm gonna take about a 10 minute break here folks All right, thank you very much We'll be right back with the moisture town hall meeting folks. Stay tuned to Indiana Freedom Talk Radio.