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A figure walking through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three cornered hat and speaking low to me he said, we fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations this legacy we gave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. Invist the land of the free and home of the brave. You vie permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state You read about the current news in a regulated press and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold you trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm. And keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torture freedom burning bright. As Iowoki vanished in the midst from whence he came, his words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch in tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms He'd fought to keep what would be your answer if he called out from the grave is? distill the land of the free adventure. LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com, pbn.4mg.com, and we are on live 365, then go to Liberty Tree Radio, WorldSwan AM&FM Microstations, CB Bay Stations, and Ultra Net Technologies, both east and west of the Mississippi, along with southern and central Alaska. We're on the Hallmark Network on the eastern seaboard from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida. From the bottom of Florida across the ark to the Gulf of Mexico, headed towards Louisiana, Texas, Oklahoma. Chuck of Nebraska, the third of Wyoming, our friends in Montana, the Dakotas and Iowa, and back over across the Mississippi, a big full spiral here, heading towards the Golden Spike Project all along the Blue Ridge slash the Smokies. Don, today's date is? Mark, it's the 23rd day of September, year of our Lord 2010. Again, 23 September 2010. Just about dark here the little pinky lights for the path the solar lights are kicked on and look through the window That's the major portion of what I it's right now just past eight here you guys as a matter of fact with the weather the way it is we had the warm but in the same breath Gee, you've got that fall leaf thing taking place guys. Everybody knows what's a common spot if it's just a way The most important is that we need to pay attention to the environment here with the way things are going because we're going to get a shift of warm the cold real fast and we're going to have a real winter this year. We didn't have a real winter last year but with all the moistness we've had in Michigan we're going to get a lot more snow. We're going to see more of a traditional 50s to 60s kind of nuclear attack wars, you know, snow type thing. Oh, wait a minute. Well, only implying that when we see back in the days when we had all those above ground nuclear tests, we had a lot of really good snow. Oops. Well, actually, 67 wasn't too bad. Actually, 67 was notorious, but we didn't really have any nuclear testing that I can think of. By 67, pretty much they were kind of mixing that out. Anyway, we've got a lot of unique weather fronts the last couple of years and up to our eyeball snow during the global warming phase, which of course kind of put a real stomp on that. So I don't think it's going to get any better. In fact, I think it's going to get worse as anticipated. So be prepared for the cold weather months. Don, what's happening up in your neck of the woods, sir? Well, again, it's the evening running into working on finishing out the garden, trying to get some things in for the garden for next year. I would say that we talked years ago about the emu rodeo we had here yesterday, Mark. We had a bull here right five steps from the south of the, you know, the south window of the trailer here. And you guys, it wasn't a cow and it wasn't one of them there, steers, because he was fully equipped and his top of his head was taller than me. So I didn't want to really go out there and kind of like, you know, just pat him on the shoulder and say, come on, I'll take you home. But we did take the time to me and a neighbor to stand in one place and a bull looks at you for a while and looks at you again and decides you don't want to be here. So he goes the other way. And we slowed traffic when he got out into the stop traffic, when he got out into the road and turned him back and eventually had him cross I think the same hunk of fence that he had bullied. No pun intended, bullied down. And then I propped up the farmer's fence. You guys A number of things were discussed around that because there was no tag in that bull's ear. We've seen tags in almost every cow in the nation now. I shouldn't really mention that. There was no tag in that ear. I don't know if this was a yearling or what. I don't think he was a year old. His horns came out of his head at my eye level, if not my top of my head. I think he was more than a year old. I'll tell you that we kind of herded him through the woods after getting him away from the road. We knew that that farmer's fence ran from the road to the creek. He has almost a half a mile of fence on this side of his farm. We thought we'd walk the bolt to the fence and maybe have to walk him up and stop traffic again and get him around the fence. But he walked right back to where he came out. But I'll tell you that I didn't go out there without the sidearm. I don't hardly go anywhere without it, but you know what? We walked. through two different properties to get there. The second property way, the guy had manicured the woods, little paths and whatnot. He had ridden his lawnmower through the woods. I guess he could walk through the woods and enjoy the ankle pore grass. The bull followed one of those, Mark. I wasn't certain, but I didn't want him to go down there. I couldn't come off in time because I thought it was a dead end. It was. So to confirm that it was a dead end, we walked into there and now the bull is looking. And you know, we talked about this, the bull, don't get in the bull's way. Get out of the bull's way. And that's one of the reasons why I'm bringing you this because the person who was helping me was a girl. So when the bull realized he was cornered and started to turn around, he was in an alley, so to speak, in the woods. I told her, hey, walk the other side of the tree line. The bull was looking at me and moving toward me and then all of a sudden he was moving pretty quick for I don't know how many thousand pounds or what not but between me and the big tree he couldn't turn around the tree so he decided to trot the rest of the way back down that alley. Moved him back to his property and you know what's that farmer's eye prop fence up and did this and that. What's his or his? But you know again there are a number of reasons and had he gone farther The county immediately north of me, just two miles, is the poorest county in Michigan. And somebody might not have let that bull go home. Again, you do what you can for your neighbor. There's little dinky examples of this. But I didn't have a red sheet mark, you know what I mean? But I did have the sidearm. And I know that I've seen their skulls. And I've seen a number of big cows have to be shot more than once, and in particular by somebody who doesn't know what they're doing and doesn't pierce the plane, much like Armour. at 90 degrees. We addressed this just the other day. Comforting thought to know that one of John Moses Brown was right there at my side. But we got that done. That's the big current event here as of late. Interestingly enough, if all those fails, well, it would have been a lot of hamburgers or steaks. Oh, yeah. You wouldn't do that for the meeting. Yeah. But I don't have any fear of a cow. You guys all walk right up to a cow, grab it by the ear, and tug it along. Let's go this way. But when you look at a cow and you look at this bull, his feet were half again, if not two-thirds again, as big as any cow that was in that farmer's field. And his legs went straight up from there instead of like a cow that gets kind of spindly around the ankles and stuff. Recognize threats, you guys, and to be cautious around. But again, you know, so what we did was convey it back to literally that property, my neighbor's property. That was exciting, Mark. There were times when we were walking across open field and there wasn't a tree to hide behind, but we're trying to keep the bull out of the road. He showed us how fast he could move when he got into the alley. He put on a pretty good trot to get moving toward the road. I used the standard stop signal for copiers and whatnot. The guy looking at me, looking at me in the pickup. truck and then looked up the road and he saw the bull running out into the road so then he decided to leave the car to his attention. There's a lot you guys we could go on and on about this little instance but the other thing was many of the there were three pickup trucks that went by mark and every one of them in the pickup truck stopped and you know rolled down the window do you need help every time I instructed them please or ask them go to the red farm knock on their door and tell them I've got their bull over here and one of them they all said okay I will and they did And so again, you know, it doesn't hurt to ask for help. There's a lot to be learned in this, you guys. I wish I could tell you all the little nuances and things that happened. But one of those guys in the pickup truck even came back. I know he came back because I recognized the sound of the truck. But by that time, we were into the woods with the bull, Mark. And you know, looking at a threat like that at a particular distance, out in the open, you think that, well, if it turns this way in, I can get out of the way. Actually being moved. start to kind of trot toward it to confuse it as far as its closing of the distance and then as it closes just run right by 45 degrees one way or the other. Okay and that's one thing. But again when you get into a threat like that in close ranges in the woods, think of this like a tank. Because you know tankers you guys, they hate to go into cities. They hate to go into cities. Why? Well because if there's two or three stories above them now they've got the threat of someone actually working really, really hard and bringing even a big gun or even a medium, a heavy rifle up to such a level that it's looking straight down onto the, you know, that armor up there around that hatch is very, very thin. It's not meant to stop that incoming Russian round or to deflect it, you know what I mean? Tankers hate to go into the city. They hate to be close to things where they can't, you know, burn and go in the new direction of their choice. or where something can be dropped on it. The bull is the same way. But when you get in there, when the tank is the other side of the building, and I know I'm kind of, this is a big, wrong stretch here, it's not a threat to you. You've seen Hollywood tanks driving right through buildings. But let's see a tank drive through a building in Detroit. Well, even if it drove through one of the houses in the suburbs, Markett would end up in the basement, wouldn't it? That's one of the things to remember is it looks really cool in a movie. But how does a tanker know, especially when you see something like a tiger tank? That's one of the things you guys need to remember. The heaviest battle tank on the field, short of the Joseph Stalin 1's, 2's, and 3's, and I think they were about balanced there. Or, you know, later, the Joseph Stalin 1's, 2's, and 3's showed up at the end of the war and were almost a match for the tiger. Anyway, the tiger, when you see that, Then you see the barrel going through the window. Most European buildings, they took advantage of all the space they had. The reason they didn't see them doing that a whole lot is because now, like you said, they might end up being a fixed permanent, very heavy bunker, subterranean bunker. But they had power. They had to take off about a week to dig a ramp out. If they could get out at all. In fact, that's one of the things I depicted in, if you recall, the Winter War. The scene of the guy recovering the magazine, that was the whole point. There's a tank there in the scene in that particular chapter. Well, where is that tank? Don't! If you don't know your terrain, tanks are not altering. They're altering vehicles, but they're not bulldozers. Well, excuse me, one of the other things, oh my goodness, there we go. Whatever you see on television, in fact, let's put it this way, you've seen this in a lot of different movies. James Bond, Goldeneye, where he's flailing with a tank through the back streets of Musco, right? Actually, the main streets of Moscow. Oh yeah. The problem is, you see, yeah, he goes down through the back alley there, okay? Guys, all that stuff's falling down, where's it gonna go? It's going to end up on the roof where all your hatches are, which are your ways out. There's no guarantee it's going to be one or two bricks. With your luck, it's going to be a chunk of 500-year-old limestone that was part of another archway in the middle of that old tunnelway that was between the buildings that he goes driving down. Of course, from that point forward, eh. I can't understand why I can't get out. Wait a minute. Oh no. And then if you're a fighting situation, that's when you hear that sucking sound of that last round heading towards the hull. And there's no way out. See, that's why tanks don't play bulldozer like that for a reason. Otherwise, somebody else has got to dig your hand out of the rubble. Out of the rubble you've created on top of your vehicle. And you made the mess. Why should I fix it? See, there's the attitude. But that's one of the things to think about too. Tanks are not bulldozers. Country, in fact, they don't really, until they put a blade on the front, and even then they're improvised bulldozers. They're not quite the same kind of vehicle. Until you build a combat engineer system out of it, you don't have quite what everybody is thinking mentally when they look at a tank and figure what it's going to do. And then Hollywood does nothing but reinforce nonsense in many cases, which is always the case anyway. I'm waiting for the Sprout helicopter rotors to fly. That would be the next step. It is already happening with the Transformers, I guess. How many ton vehicle? It's being lifted by what? Wait a minute. Anyway, go ahead, Don. Well, I just thought I'd bring that little story and use it as an example, learn from it a little bit, and segue into tanks. Because think about it, you guys. That big old bull. That's almost like an armored vehicle when you're just standing there in the field. If he turns, he'll run over you if he wants. Well, them big old feet, they probably wouldn't do you any good. You'd probably be better off than tank treads, but they probably wouldn't do you any good. And granted, he's not shooting at you, but if he got close enough, he could put some holes in you. Actually. That was fun, Mark. That was exciting. We had an emu rodeo here once. And yesterday we really had a bull rodeo, or at least a walkout. Well, the other thing too, we remember, especially with livestock, is as we go here, you don't really want to be having them slip through the fence. In fact, people are going to have to be doing more maintenance than they used to do, or are used to doing, because as people get hungrier, well, he's lucky, whoever the owner is, that Don, you guys are the ones that found him. Oh yeah, like I say, I'm adjunting to the poorest county, the county to the north of me, or the poorest county in Michigan. Had it gone a little farther, it might not have gone home. Yeah, you're right. You're right. Look, I got a deer, a big deer. It's a big, big deer. Shop it up for the fridge. What do they think about that deer? If they do any tests, it isn't a deer. They shoot it out of season. It's a cow. So, for freezer bait, I guess that would be okay. But again, one of the things to consider if you have livestock is you've got to start looking at how you're going to conceal them when the time comes or how you're going to perhaps keep them in the back foldy out of sight, out of mind. Because if people see signs of the animals or if they see the animals directly, you're going to have a problem with people thinking that your animals should be their animals. Oh, this was a real fully equipped bowl. You know, everything worked. I'm certain he'd be worth a lot more than a cow or than a steer. Because you know, they're comparatively a lot of a lot of bowls, young bowls, they never, you know, they never make it past deerhood. You know what I mean? Cut, cut. He'd be worth more, you know, maybe alive. I'm not certain. But you know, in real bad times, well, somebody just cut, cut. Heck, heck, and he'd be in the frying pan in 15 minutes. Another thing on this note too with regard to critter control is, and this is something we were talking about, either developing your wild resources, which means sending out the coyotes and putting out the wolves. or at the very least again, pending in the areas that you're going to be operating. Fence row maintenance is critical, guys. It's something you better start looking at. A little hint, if you're looking for ways to fix the fence but you don't have a whole lot of might, go to the scrap yards. Now, the reason I say this is because your county roads and most people who are pulling fence rows try to keep them kind of neat, but they still really bollocks them up. But the county roads and the states They do road maintenance and right now they are getting all the Obama free money and bucket money, not that they are spending it all where they should. One of the things I have noticed they are doing, at least in this state and also when we are out west, is that they are replacing perimeter fences along the interstates. What they always do guys is they roll them up into nice big ball rolls and then put them on a flatbed and drive them over to the scrap yard or the landfill. It would behoove you if you have a lot of old fencing rather than going out and buying new. consider buying those rolls as scrap or bidding on collecting them. Now granted you've got to figure how many miles of expressway fence there is there, but when you consider how much it costs for brand new fencing Picking up woven galvanized fence like that is actually pretty desirable. So what you want to do is look at who might be getting rid of it and or where it's going to what scrap yard. Now you're going to pay more than just regular scrap weight. You're going to pay what the scrapper gets if you were to take it to the mill. But that's okay. That's still a hell of a savings over buying the fence brand new. In most cases you even get the fence post. You even get the steel post. They don't disconnect them. They just pull them up, flop them over, roll them. Away they go. They cut every so many feet separating them again and to make a roll that's only a certain size. So all of it's manageable. Everything you're seeing there is, you just got to decide what you want to put together. That's all. So anyway, a lot of other stuff that's going on right now by the way too, but Don, we are at the bottom of the hour and I do not want to hesitate on this nor do I want to rush it. Night vision and anything that might be on the horizon here that would be of interest to our people. We need to continue to keep them up to speed. We've got the Arizona deployment. We've got Mount Creek coming up. A bunch of other stuff we'll touch on in a minute, but Don, take your time. Point contact and what can we do for the people that are listening. Well, you guys, if you want to talk to me, here comes the phone number. But don't do it right now, because there's only one line that comes into the compound and tunnel network that they know about. So with that in mind, that phone number is 231-796-8458. Again, 231-796-8458. You know, in late, actually it was December, I said, oh, I've got a special on this. and I talked about a particular piece and second week, first, second week in January, I called to get a couple, they were all gone. Well, excuse me, I've been telling you about that Night Spirit second generation viewer with, it'll take multiple battery sources, either a double A or a three volt, you know, a one, two, three battery. Well, you guys, so with that in mind, there's other pieces that we can put a second, that was a very thought out, very well laid out piece. It was very consistent. I'm looking forward to getting them back. Not to mention the feature that, you know, multiple for choices. We can do that in gun sites, but we go up into a higher grade, a grade that they say is going to hold up on top of your 50. We can do a multiple power gun site, but I still have available second generation gun site. That is a 2.8 power 308 recoil capable of manufacturers says they'll warranty it for two years. That's how confident they are in this device. And again, you'll see example of it in the second generation version of the Night Vision video. This has a black line reticle from top to bottom and from side to side. And when you see that in the Night Vision video, you know you're looking at an example of one of the devices I'm talking about. Or a true gun sight, again, .308 recoil capable. They want 7.8. $1,999.00 is better. $1,699.00 for that. I'll put it in your mailbox for $1,560.00. That's $10.00 more than what I first offered it to you for. They've beaten me up on that price a couple of times, but this is a real good piece. I'm pretty confident you won't find it unless you call somebody and say, hey, that guy. Over there, he's offering it for this and maybe the guy will offer it for 10 bucks less. Just, well, here you hear right now one time special, you know what I mean? But this is across the board. So, if you want to talk to me about that device, you can reach me at 2317-96-8458. We could talk first generation viewers, gun sites, viewers, gun sites, third, same way, or goggles across the board, fourth generation or thermal, if you want. If you want to talk about night vision, I want to steer this in the direction of the night vision video, you guys, because if you have a good interest in night vision, what I tried to do is show you a number of different views of the same scene, different light levels and different times of year, from snow on the ground to fully green, summer, full moon nights. And again, sitting right on top of the same surveyors, I earn almost exactly every time. There are other locations, but they were done for different reasons. If you really want to know, you can look at Hollywood and you can see this and that. You can even look at the evening news and see examples of night vision now and then. I would say that that was filmed on the medium setting, not the very finest setting, because that cut my time down to just a few minutes on each disc. was filmed on a medium setting and every time there is an altered image, it's mentioned in the film. As an example, we magnify the four power image from the gun sight in a particular sequence in their mark until it pixelate. You're looking at a digital image and then simplifying it to a digital recorder. We just amplified the one digital image of them until it just pixelated. But that was mentioned and every time there is something that is not true seen, and it's only a couple of times in the whole of the video, but it is mentioned. So you're getting kind of real world here as far as what, to a greater extent, what third generation will do for you. That was done on purpose because United States deploys third generation. A lot of your cop shops will carry a second. Some of them just as their own might carry a first generation piece. But more and more, I'll tell you a little story here, which is a true story. 14 mile in Detroit area above Detroit around Southfield Road or something there at a gun store and this was this was 15 16 years ago mark trying to get this guy to carry a product and in walks a friend of his and We talked and oh look at what he's got and I showed him you know a couple pieces of night vision and we went down into the Basement of this scared big big basement of this gun store and turned on a couple pieces of night vision and cracked the door so we had a little bit of ambient light enclosed. The door used the illuminator on each piece to this guy. It came to the point where, well, he says, well, he's a cop. We were already discussing, well, you roll up to a particular place in the van and open the doors and take the shot. Me, like, well, it isn't done that way. I've talked with other people and a couple years later, you guys, in a particular gun magazine, I pointed that general scenario out and used it as example because the op force is using things like bronc and things like vans. I knew it then and even that cop didn't know it then. I just bring that as an example. People argue about the goofiest things and argue about something they don't know about. It's just an example of it, Mark. You hear things from certain places and apply it in the field and it's funny that... And then later you get it verified in a gun magazine. So you guys brag myself up here. I'm not certain exactly where I want to go with this. But don't be surprised. And to see in a standoff situation, a van rolls up. And all of the windows in the van are black. That van, the whole of it, everything inside, it appears normal on the outside. And on the inside, it's got the polycarb shell. But don't be surprised to see that because we've addressed this years ago and I will make it a point to go and find that particular gun magazine that brought that to the nation's attention mark. You know, just a little sidebar there. But you guys, if you want to talk about night vision or if you want to acquire the video, oh well, the video, $30 will give you all three discs now. And that includes the classroom disc that was done, well gee, that was done back in like 97 or 98, wasn't it? something like that. I'm not talking myself off, but it's not like I've been doing this since last night. Those are all in motion right now. So, a few people who let us know what they think about them too. I appreciate Bob letting us know he had one that somehow the discus looked through. We've been doing quite a few. So, it's possible one may not have been hit for, you know, B slash record. But the level of expertise that was applied here Don, your experience taking that and switching it over to a classroom format and switching it over into a field format was critical to giving people some idea of how to use night vision, eliminating a lot of the fiction and applying the reality, which is another thing people have commented on when they've watched the videos as far as, you know, they're expecting it to be just like, put a lens, put a green lens over a movie camera and that's what it's like. And it's nothing to be further from the truth, guys. There are ways that you have to read the night vision, correct? You actually have to interpret. You're doing that while you're using it. One of the examples, in fact, in the very first few scenes, standing on that surveyor's iron, and this was done on purpose because I saw this, I recognized this, and waited for that shadow again in order to show that to you. That didn't happen in a month that summertime. Well, it kind of did happen. It took me about a month just to get the summertime out because you're standing in an intersection that, well, there's cars. It goes as a straight line. When you're looking under the bridge, if you remember the video, when you're looking under the bridge, that road is straight for like seven miles. And behind me, the road is straight for a mile into the north. It's straight for, you can see probably four miles that way before it gets pretty hilly. For the south it turns to hills and about 500 yards. This is one of the roads that connects one of the little birds here to another bird. It's one of the main concrete or finished roads. Sometimes I'd stand out there and wait for, well there's no cars, and then I'd get out there and get set up and oh man there's a car coming up that seven miles away. So I'd have to wait for that to go and by that time, well the light is gone and I'm not trying to sound like Picasso or nothing, but one of the major things that was trying to, that I tried to demonstrate in that was different light levels. And if I couldn't catch it one day, oh like Picasso, oh I don't particularly care for Picasso, he was a communist. but like Zay Zahn who appreciated art like very few, appreciated light like very few artists do. What I wanted to do was give you different examples in the same scene of multiple levels of light. But in one of the first scenes when the camera is pan toward the south, for all the world a shadow there looks like the hull of an APC. It's a hard straight line and it's that line that comes down in the front and it, if you didn't know what you were looking at, you might even not move for an hour and wonder why they're not moving until that shadow turns to something that looks like something else. But you guys, it's a matter of discerning, knowing or interpreting what you're looking at. That was addressed in the classroom. Again, over and over in the field work, you're only looking at a two-dimensional image, just like your television screen. Granted, television screens have come so far that Even without 3D it looks like you can stick your hand into them almost. The pictures are so fine. Well, when you look at a piece of night vision, the very top, the upper portions of them, like third and fourth generation, they're not going to get, they're going to get pretty close, but they're not going to get the lines per millimeter or the lines per inch that that super high definition television does. Not yet. But they're giving you Second generation will run up to about 45 lines per millimeter on that little phosphor screen, the television screen that you look at. Third generation will run, third generation starts at about 45 and most of the 45 millimeter third generation tubes have been burned up a long time ago. Now third generation will run up to like 54 up to 74 lines per millimeter depending on how good the tube is. and 74 lines per millimeter is in the category of fourth generation you guys as far as fineness of picture. Now you wonder about that, but some of the old Russian came here you guys with the lousy tubes no matter how you focused it or no matter what light you were in you could make out the shape of things that you couldn't make out faces. Mark that early pond ones looked like a metal kind of like a movie camera from like the 60s and the whole body was metal and the handle that came down underneath. Again, it looked like a Kodak movie camera or something. It was meant to look that way so someone could stand there and if you looked at him, oh he's just got a movie camera instead of a piece of night vision. But that pond one, that was 12 lines per millimeter you guys. That was very lousy. But we've come a good long way even to the point now that a lot of first generation and when you think of first generation think of Russian tubes. A lot of first generation goes up to 35, even to 45 lines per millimeter, giving you a very fine picture. The problem with first, it doesn't amplify the light like second, because the biggest step in performance is the second generation. And then the biggest step in lifetime is the third generation. The third generation has other performance things. Third generation, second generation uses infrared. And third generation uses infrared, but the tube is also built in such a way that it reaches to the other end of the scale and uses ultraviolet light also. The third generation is making use of some light that's coming into the device that second generation couldn't. OK, so there's the other step up in performance in third from second to third. Again, I have to reinforce the biggest step up in performance as far as what your eye sees is from first to second. Second is a good step. We could talk about this for a while. A lot of it is basic. If you own a piece of night vision, it's kind of like, you're not telling me nothing. I don't know. We could work into other things. Let's do this. I put a number of pieces in the field, that 14 pieces that came in in the late winter. They're all out in the field. Now, say for one. But that guy's waiting for where he's going to be and then that'll get mailed to him. When you move pieces like that you see the uniformity of it and whatnot. But I'm not certain exactly how I want to... Again, let me run back into this thought line because the biggest step up in performance is moving from first to second. But that doesn't mean that, well... First generation is old technology. They quit using first generation in Vietnam in 1969 and the last of it came out unless it went over to the R van in 1970. In 1970, any American that was using first generation in Vietnam, he had a second generation piece. If it was a gun sight, generally it was a PVS-4. Again, that's the timeline for you. There are even dates. Let me see. Second generation has been in service in the field in American G.I. hands for 40 years. So, you know, for 40 years, you guys, your grandfather could have used night vision in Vietnam. And we can go farther back than that, co-RIA. That's how my father says it, Mark. Co-RIA. Or even into the very tail end of World War II, when what we now call zero generation was used, which was a active device. The tubes were so week that couldn't do much with the ambient light even on a full moon so they had to throw out a lot of infrared light in order to make the tube work. And that was a big, bigger than a coffee can when you're looking down at the end of it. L, not LED, an infrared emitting device on top of the gun sight. And those guys, they not only carried the gun and a great big old piece of night vision on top and a great big old emitter above that. Oh yeah, I went so fast by the time I got back. So things have gotten a lot easier over the years. Actually to see those, the variations on them, as the technology developed, there are several movies. Go Tell It to the Spartans is one. I believe there's a couple of glance scenes of the infrared being used there. Bert Lancaster movie is one of those odd out of the way strange movies. It is from the early middle days of Vietnam when we had advisors but also combat troops there. Only not combat troops, all of them advisors. The advisor era all around 1962-1964. Anyway, The Omega Man, the original with Charlton Heston. I remember he picks up one of those night vision systems with the IR. He was raking the neighborhood with the weapon. Remember the mutant slash the contaminated ones that were already far gone were gathering around his apartment. He was cleaning house every once in a while to keep him from visiting when he didn't want to, which would be in the middle of the night when he was hopefully trying to get some rest. Other variations on that include a whole bunch of Hawaii Five-O and Mannix and Canon episodes where every so often the state of the art for the day infrared or starlight scope would be pulled out. If it was old enough the infrared would be really out there in force. It does look dynamic guys. You've got this big emitter on top of the scope. They try to modernize it. They made the emitter smaller. So the light unit is not like as long as a scope, it's actually just like a disc, which is as big as the focusing fixture for taking the light and moving it to a certain location, creating a tighter beam. So other than that, it's pretty straightforward. In fact, infrared is not really obsolete as far as I'm concerned because each one does still serve its purpose. We've got a lot of IR lighting out there. You really wouldn't jump out. The Russians did a little differently. They didn't put the light emitter on the weapon. They just let everybody else light up the battlefield and they used passive IR. Think about that. In other words, you're going to turn yours on. Why do I need to turn mine on? It's like one thing only. Yeah. Well, look, there's one over there. And we're because night vision. Yeah, if it was night vision, wouldn't it be a priority to shoot down? Yeah. So the Russian snipers were given the task of, hey, we don't need you to brighten everything up, we just want to darken up their side. How does that sound? Boom! So again, counter technology when the time comes and even taking technology that's older and employing it effectively. See how that works? So we're still doing the same thing here. And down of course if people have questions they can give you a ring after the program here after 9 right? Oh that number is 2317968458. One of the things I'm particularly proud of in the night vision video you guys I got to admit I almost had no hand in. When you see the scene where you're looking up range, up range, When you're looking up, not down range, at a target, when you're looking up range at a gun firing at the target that's almost immediately to the right of the camera, a particular person and someone else did that. And he's mentioned on the cover of the disc, you guys. Joe did that. But I'm really glad that that scene, you saw other shooting portions in the video, but I'm really glad that those scenes were included because one of the things that happens Even when you're not looking at 100 or 200 yards, 100 or I think it was 150th mentioned in the video, even when you're not looking at muzzle flash or an illuminator that is on from that shooting position which is well secluded in the shadows, sometimes you're going to see the front of that scope. And that's something to be aware of and I'm really proud of Joe for bringing that to the video. It's something that, you know, well, I... I didn't have the opportunity to do it, and Joe did, and I'm really glad it's in there. I've had him on the back for that. There's all kinds of examples in there. I did the best I could for you. Let me just say that. I did the best I could for you. If you want to know about night vision in the real world, the video is a good thing to have. If you've got it, share it with all your friends. If you've got it, show it to everybody. There's this little... phrase mark. It's like three words, one being compound or two of them, four words actually, the two of them compound together. Battlefield pickup. And you know what was ours as far as, well we paid for it, might be ours as far as it's in our hands or in many instances we paid for things and gave people things from in other nations that one day not too distant in the future might be here using it us and using it against us. So that's another example of what we paid for is ours now, perhaps, in using that phraseology there known as battlefield pickup smart. Well, that's one of the reasons that again we've been stressing know the equipment that's out there that's available. That's one of the reasons that seeing the first, second, and third generation equipment in motion now is going to save you some time later trying to acclimate to certain technologies. This is why we ask when you watch this video, make a point of sitting, sit down with friends. other people in your militia units or in your organizational preparedness unit and watch this video and then certainly share it. We don't have a problem with you copying it. The only thing we ask is copy it in its entirety. The most common mistake made is trying to condense stuff or carve stuff down. Guys, it's a CD, a DVD disc. You've got lots of room. Use it. In fact, use it all. There's a reason why it's there. The music front to back. There's two songs in the front and two songs with video in the back. One of the very last scenes on this, I'm really glad it's there. I had to explain this to someone I loaded the video to. I have one copy of the video. A number of people here have seen it. He didn't recognize the plaque while he was sitting there watching. And that plaque that tells you the church you're standing in front of and that you realize that when you're going up a flight of stairs and then looking at a ladder, you're going up the church and into the belfry of the church where one has landed and two has biseed where that took place. So right from beginning to end you guys put it on two discs if you have to, but don't short the next guy, okay? There's a reason why those songs are there. That way everybody takes advantage of what's been put together. In front of that song, Mark, the camera person trod on the deck of the USS Constitution. Bing, bing, bing, bing. That's right. Well, we have a couple more minutes left here, and I know there's been a lot of people asking about We're going to be down there at Knob Creek. We're working on that. I think we're going to be able to make it. We'll remind everybody, guys, that we're going to be at our usual location. We'll shift Kenny from Knob Creek up again in the evening, maybe tomorrow, maybe 5 o'clock, or we'll see what happens. Tomorrow's Friday, of course. But Knob Creek is 8-9-10 of October. If you're going to participate, you've got to get to their web page. to the Knob Creek Machine Gun Shoot range and fill out the paperwork. Not because you're using the machine guns, but because if you want to compete, you have to fill out your competition forms for whichever shotgun, pistol rifle, military rifle, etc. Whatever you're going to do, you've got to be entered in it. There's only so many spaces because there's only so much time to shoot through the day. That's how you've got to figure out how they're going to make up the schedule. Kenny's really busy right now, but he makes a point of dealing with each individual problem that arises. So if there's any complications, trust me, he's going to take care of it. The campgrounds are never full. There is always space in the campgrounds and that's probably your best way nowadays to save money, be there and relax a little bit and also visit with friends. You can take in-laws, outlaws, brothers, sisters, cousins, whatever, down there with you or meet down there. I think that's the best way to do it is meet at that location. Tell everybody, hey, be here a certain time. When we are all done, if you go to the show we will be at such and such a spot. But if you miss us there go out to the campground and we will all be sitting down there having a bean sandwich. See how that works? Another thing to mention here is, and you have hit on it to a certain extent, if you are going to enter into the contest they are getting filled up real quick you guys. You can't walk in on Friday and enter into the contest. Along that same line. If you've never been there before and you don't know anybody there, leave your MP5 at home. Leave your M and your Mod Duce or your 1919 or your little electric gatling. Leave it at home because I'm told, Mark, it's about a 10-year waiting list. We're working inside a finite window of time and space here and only so many guns can go on the line. And if you want to get on to that line you sign up now, in maybe in 8 or 10 years there will be a space for you on the King Gun Shoot line. And that's a reality you guys. So this is how much fun these guys are having. Interesting only enough too is there's been some unique weapons they've been bringing up online in the last couple of shoots. So you're going to see stuff you may not see at any of the other Nob Creek shoots. Another thing is that some of the small weapons that are very, very exotic are showing up. From time to time, the Stenkin, which was basically a KGB interior police machine pistol, the equivalent to the P-18, which was made in Morton Grove, Illinois, that was famous for the big Morton Grove gun ban, and the other was a Steyr knockoff of the P-18. But the original idea came from the Stenkin and the Stenkin was a lotter magazine capacity It is a select fire pistol And a couple guys, you know, I would brought a couple to the show if you get a chance and you look around for those They're very unique. They were a very interesting idea. They look like a big you know, like conventional some automatic pistol on steroids like a And like a Walther, like a big, big, like the newer Walthers, not the smaller Walther PPK. Like the newer Walthers or the newer Ruger line design in a way. The Jennings is probably closer to the silhouette. If you remember the old Jennings 380s, just imagine a Jennings 380 on steroids. And that would give you an idea what this pistol looks like with a little longer slide, stretched out Gumby slide. A lot of weapons like that are showing up, stuff that you're going to run into it. Bad guys have it, they're going to be deploying it in the United States against us. You're going to get a chance to see the reality of how these weapons work. Now again, remember this kind of firepower in one spot at any given point in reality would be a little bit of a bullet magnet, but it gives you a chance to see how firepower works, how things can be used. Just understand that for every one of those there would be a wheelbarrow or a jeep trailer full of ammo to keep them running at the pace that they were running which is another reason conservation and ammunition is critical. Probably the best example is the GE minigun in 762 NATO. Everybody loves that gun Don. Oh I used to move in a jeep trailer's worth of ammo with it and it was good for about 3 minutes. Yeah. 3 minutes firing time. That ain't a whole lot of firing time. Anyway, I'll tell you what we're going to do. We're at the top of the hour. We've got DUTS coming up right behind us. Lots of live broadcasting coming up right after the Intel report. God bless the republic. Save it from the storm boys, water groups will be And the sun will always shine on the old lips of thorns The sun's a miracle