September 22, 2010
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Mark Koernke and Donald Betcher hosted an evening broadcast covering the upcoming Knob Creek Machine Gun Shoot (October 8-10) and solicited donations for Liberty Tree Radio's yearly operational costs. A caller from Michigan discussed three weapons-related resources: a 1949 Army training manual on basic military techniques, the value of .22 training rifles and the Appleseed program, and information about obtaining M1 rifles and ammunition through the Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP). The hosts emphasized the importance of individual infantry skills, small unit tactics (fire teams, squads, platoons), and referenced the book Total Resistance as foundational reading for preparedness and homeland defense.
- knob creek machine gun shoot
- liberty tree radio
- donation
- 1949 army training manual
- appleseed program
- .22 training rifle
- civilian marksmanship program
- m1 rifle
- 30-06 ammunition
- total resistance
- infantry tactics
- fire team
- squad
- state defense forces
- preparedness
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Live 365 Reloading supplies. Knob Creek Gun Range in West Point, Kentucky is one mile off Dixie Highway. On Highway 44 at 690, Richie Lane. Look, it's not like we're bugging the phones or anything, so give him a call at 922-4457. That's 922-4457. Or visit machinegunshoot.com. It's easier to find than my birth certificate. I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat and speaking low to me he said, We've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations this legacy we gave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. Invist the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state You read about the current news in a regulated press and you pay attacks you do not owe to please the IRS Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold you trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm. And keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watching tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms He fought to keep what would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Good evening ladies and gentlemen, this is the evening intelligence report. I'm Mark Herkey and I'm Donald Betcher one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories west central southeast and northwest all these gentlemen you're listening to us on liberty tree radio dot for m g dot com p b n dot for m g dot com and we are live three sixty five then go to the breed free radio also on a minute and micro station to be based on alternate technologies both east and west of the mississippi along with southern central alaska older technology there that's expanding even as we speak both using both old and new combined and we are on the hallmark network from the top of maine of the bottle of florida from the bottom of florida across the ark to the gulf of mexico towards ouija intertexa so caloma ojeda barksa and then as we know also the third of wyoming iowa slash i away and then back over the golden spike project on the smokies the blue ridge that's right all the way across the whole of that ridge of the The middle plus of September headed towards October. That means just around the corner we have the Knob Creek Machine Gun Shoot. Knob Creek Machine Gun Shoot coming up, guys. Slash the big weekend. 8-9-10 of October, second year. Ooh, a Phoebe and the Socialist occupation. Everybody knows what to happen in. Important to take the time to go to their webpage. You can go to the link on Knob Creek Gun Range off Liberty Tree Radio. uh... also quick reminder about liberty radio we need you to help pitch in and donate because we've got a cover a yearly bill work hard work to come the clock down now guys we need help from every direction that we can and we need your assistance to get it done if you've never done this before this is the time and uh... we don't want to have to be uh... at the last minute although we're going to probably be running right after the last minute with this way it's looking so if you can have you donated to liberty tree radio doesn't have to be a lot in fact you can do a yearly you can do a monthly whatever you want to do there go to liberty tree radio dot for mg dot com over on the right side says donate there's a donate key little little red says paypal and you can read the information there and i'll show you how to uh... either donate on a regular basis which helps in general because we've got ongoing bills too but also uh... if you'd like something in exchange uh... if you donate you'll receive a gift you decide what that's going to be we got a whole bunch of books going out tomorrow and uh... yesterday so uh... guess what uh... pay attention mailbox to the burden request you've got stuff in the mail you have or like it will voice meters for like that green man bird what it anyway non-naught Knob Creek guys if you're gonna shoot I don't know 30 spaces left But there are multi gun shoots there bolt-action military rifle with iron sights all kinds of MG shoots shotgun shoots pistol shoots But you got to sign up in advance yet fill out paperwork Congratulations get that done get it out of the way and get on with the mission. That's one of the options there also remember that there is camping at knob creek so if you are going to go there you can also spend the night there you don't have to take off that were about a camp uh... you know or getting hotel room which by the way this time of year is rather unique for whatever reason around cincinnati are and around uh... also uh... any of the other ohio river cities for as far as you can see uh... you know got louisville right there just north but anywhere in the area for a couple hours drive the uh... hotel rooms are taken up football games all kinds of other stuff going on there about the same weekend so i will warn you if you think about getting a hotel room uh... down there cartersville or whatever you better kind of probably call it now when you should have probably done it earlier forgive me for not mentioning it sooner but this has been a notorious thing to you probably going to gang up with some other people to get a room that we got something someplace to stay for gonna spend the night otherwise hey bring your sleeping bags bring your tents along you don't have to go over it for all you can stay right there on the range Now, oh, not in the impact area. Oh, I guess that'd be kind of scary. And some of you might think you're a new target of opportunity. Wow, can he put some new targets up there? Well, let's not let that happen, but we do have a nice camping area. It's over where the cello-hopper lands, the UIs, and sometimes they've got a coyote over there, but usually the UIs are there by themselves. uh... take the time get over there set up your tent enjoy each other's company and that way you can just step out of the tent walk down the road and just a little ways but a hundred fifty yards at the most and guess what you there while and it's all on the compound who that really compound that's not like a just uh... well in the house there can't can't say isn't any other but uh... it is create you know rifle range compound which supposed to be except it's not for animals for human beings We deal with it. I heard a beep. Who do we have? Yes, you have Bob from Michigan. I got it. No way. Not Bob. Go ahead, Bob. The other thing is empty disk. Which one? One or two? Which first disk or third disk? It's number two. I didn't know if you want to just ship it back. We'll trade you. Sounds good. Do that right away just so we know which one. We'll take a look at it. Chances are really dark. Yeah, well, that's why I said the garnish. Don't be sorry. It's just a fake. I have one quick question, I think, Don's honesty. You have a objective lens micro channel plate. Electrons are being passed many more electrons off and those are the electrons being, you know, the little dinky screen that you're looking at. Right. Scope, you know, like, I'm a little behind the curve on the PBS2 friendly. I would think that 55, 56, 57 Chevy. We'll turn it right around the weekend. Like I said, probably just copy that one over. Alright, not copy over. It probably just was missed. Somehow it got labeled, but it didn't get copied on us. Our work was great on us. Okay. Thank you, Bob. Okay, bye. And we give another call right behind us. Who do we have? uh... mark for michigan they marked up in the red i don't know if you have to stop that three items here on weapons with their thought might be of interest to your listeners who would be over but this is where that we've got was qualified this this is just any guy here speaking to us you know what where is this call from again this is from mommy and that means it could be a uh... a person we really want to get upon your go ahead jump in there sir okay this is uh... three of the ventures one is the uh... item of the he training rifle that might be viewed from third of the source for grateful to the nation ama go through the three points and pictures no first the organized repeat nineteen forty nine this is a old uh... and it is the uh... it's a hardbound book which is what about two to half inches thick hundred pages finally things you probably file online if you can find them probably or if you don't watch for a few dollars it was issued all in one soup to nuts how to be a soldier, how to follow one military history, military... I'd like to read that, maybe a couple of passes. One from Omar Bradley, put a little forward in it, call her some of your... four. Inside the front, Department of the Army, Washington, 15 November 1948. Organized Reserve Basic Manual, Army Chief, Army Field Forces. The situation of the peace and the maintenance of the American way of life are dependent upon a firm security, a sure security, a balanced armed force of Army, Navy, and air. While to the effectiveness is a well organized structure of our democratic civil... Its army has been organized in three component establishment. One of the functions of the regular army under this sound is to organize and train the civilian component so that they will be ready to distribute the regular establishment's continuous and progressive study. New weapons, techniques, and methods of waging war are on to the civilian component. This manual is published to make available to our citizen soldiers the latest basic techniques of the U.S. Army, Chief Army Field Forces. It's about 900 pages and it's really good. A lot of people might say, well, it's 49, very outdated. But a lot of the stuff they're about today, as it was, it was written at a time. It's just to that all the lessons that, and yet it was long enough afterwards, just a few years, that they could, had a chance to digest or not a big rush. It's really excellent. It's also sort of Cold War really, I think also the time when government did not, the whole manual seems to be based around really the squad, the fire team, the squad. maybe in also the company size. But not much beyond the kinds of weapons and equipment and gear are a lot of the same kind of things that they're now, 114, medevac type things. It's all techniques, resources, and equipment, tactics, the tune, the company. Amazing kind of book, it seems to me, I'm really enamored with it, but it's just excellent. It's about 900 pages, and you can get wiped out by an EMP. It's just a hardcover book, crazy amount of money, but some of them I bought for $3 each. You can find them. It's the Liberty Training Rifle, video but ten twenty two p e c eight what you have the other adjustable rework putting those fight on a ten twenty two that you can pick up you immediately have a gun that exact same type of trip that you can use the team and sixty-eight like the m sixteen a one in a one-year site and uh... looking to compute you've got the same type of trip for ten twenty two you can get ten shot back in the magazines for the gun personally have fourteen or a million one eight hundred and talking that you want something that when put on a river Now known as the stand-up actually to you remember about CMP it's significantly below the going market price for M1 rifles and additionally they have in bandoliers for and one H for 30-06 CMP currently is selling military issues 30-06 and it's only about 50 cents more in the future They don't tend to want to be finally about armor piercing AP is accurate than most full metal jacket ammunition before they came out the core but as soon as that bullet points with no significant because If you're talking about shooting at armor, the armor-piercing rounds like that typically are good, or have... It's good at doing that, but if you have multiple length, not quarter-inch pieces of armor-piercing round made very well, you take those two with a gap of... After that next sheet of armor, the sheet will not hit a single piece of metal, even though a single piece of metal like that will sometimes not penetrate or perform any better than just a regular form. The ballistic tip naturally, the wound channel, or a... And the one that actually penetrated the deepest enough rambling but if you're thinking about you've got to keep in mind AP is not just your shoot note on the type of animal or some large animal has muscle tissue like that for their performance. It's really just when you've got a punch you want to have a hard small arm, sandbag or wood going point on so that then you'll get some sand. The training rifle comes, Apple Seed program, 1022 EH, sites SM-14 or M1 can do a lot of shooting for a lot less money. the final point was the empty you can buy actually up with the p.m.p. i've got a mcmp not it's it's it's much much easier that you could be in order to be able to buy from the p.m.p. you've got to be a member of a p.m.p. affiliate club down and not the same shotgun news you have these articles the shotgun news and was always helping me on the club and if you don't have a local club that you can join easily and cheaply you this club down in north carolina i've got to use them a lot of times gotta do that they mess around also there's been put a call the shooter department what kind of though you have to uh... go to one of you some farms trip if you can show that you did date any kind of uh... sure about what they could be that we got cold and uh... well what part of the fact that you could be treasuries and uh... it's a true or political plot kind of like welfare for people who are carried by the uh... that the army no doubt what you got the going and uh... no thank you appreciate it by the way real quick on the book Total Resistance is another parallel book to have with that. As you know, we've talked about this many times on the era about the basic building blocks. First, the individual. The man has to prepare himself. We've talked about that extensively today for a reason, because it's the first best part of the weapon system, the individual, the human, the spirit, the mind, the body. From there, the five-man fire team, the ten-man squad, the platoon. But the individual, the fire team, and the squad build everything. The platoon is nothing more than an amalgamation of however many fingers you put up, in other words how many sets of ten, and the company, nothing more than three or four depending upon heavy, or with a heavy weapons section, three or four companies combined, you know, platoons, forgive me, platoons combined to make a company. Everything else from there is more administration with regard to management than anything else because you have to be able to move mass. That is not a weak point completely. We have a lot of people who are experiencing that to a degree. But the real critical level is at the individual, the fire team, the squad, the platoon level. That is why we've been hammering on it. So that book is priceless. There is no such thing as an outdated book on military science. The reason I bring that up... is that we're all infantry first. You know, the whole idea, the helicopters will show up. Guys, for every time that a helicopter did show up, I can count another time where it didn't. Every time I counted on the Air Force to drop something for me, it never happened. And we had best technology at our disposal. But we did markers, buoys, infrared, you name it, and they still missed the target. In one case, 14 miles off, we could not recover the supplies that were dropped to us. So if you don't think leg infantry first, and if you don't carry in what you need, you're going to screw yourself. So that's for any of the regular, first I'm concerned with these young kids, hey when they get into a tight spot, well they need to learn probably by getting their panties punched. Otherwise, we teach leg infantry first because everything else after that is gravy, everything else after that is icing on the cake. but if you're not competent at the at the foot skill at the core of what is you know combat infantry operations everything else is moved because you're going to lose the helicopter you lose the truck you're going to lose the a p c the tanks are going to be there when you need them the aircraft are going to show up when you want them and they don't show up all the time anyway because everything is share allocated this little thing unlike the movies the way things really work so appreciate bringing up that information and make to that book total resistance it was the it was written for the swiss for their operas in the event they had to defend their homeland and still do i mean it's a bit reading it there are people still absorb and all of these texture pertinent so we don't try to qualify missing it outdated and i will tell everybody it is not uh... it is very pertinent it's an excellent choice uh... effective you can access it go and give the title of our listeners one more time and what did you access your copies by the way do we want to uh... yeah i i i i i i had a poem on uh... i think was amazon dot com i think is right search on amazon dot com and uh... the name of the book the organized will be organized reserve there i guess there may be different very nineteen forty nine for the or if the eight ten inches taller for about nine hundred if you want i could give you the the years of series in fact that similar this that they still issue to state defense forces i've mentioned that before and state defense forces are still out there in most all of the uh... individual states and i just want to bring other they actually issue a variation on that volume i'm sure it's probably updated but not that much because state defense forces do not receive a whole lot of high-tech equipment they're actually uh... ground level organized so there has to be a variation still lingering out there and also what i've seen i've i've had the commanders right here in the living room from five different state defense forces in one time i said again go ahead please i have a lot i did find actual i was it's a lot i did find a mail from bob what they were going to read that exactly and they've been a bit earlier yep that what it is earlier it's quite far with the program with a i think the both good i think the the the later the one from the world war two years There's volumes of research that were done from World War II. We learned everything we needed to learn. We just aren't applying what we learned, that's all. Go ahead. Let me just read this. This is the one, actually, they call the introduction in this book. It's just a couple of... and this is in that organizers early in 1948, the initiation of the program for the divining of the Organized Reserve Corps in compliance, this book combines the efforts of various subject matter is based on actual operating care by the Army of the United States and the mobilization and fighting of the experiences of the recent war have provided valuable techniques of new weapons and the lessons of World War II will be explored so that ineffective methods of even greater proficiency can be developed. Men still speculate on the destructive power of modern weapons, but in the final analysis, Wars are won, will train soldiers, engage the enemy, kill or capture his troops, occupy his land. The final deciding factor is the man who overcomes the enemy. I thought that was and uh... you're interested but book online and appreciate that thank you very much let you go but we got that come up right behind us and work right on the mama time your time your number for night vision police week three one five eight very good and remember donate to liberty radio we need your help god bless the republic that we shall prevail with the gentleman the empire's on the run okay and have you donated to the liberty trade radio war chest we need your help guys please donate do what you can that is coming up right behind us and don't you touch that down more live ltr radio thank you don't thank you mark god bless you