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Live 365 You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun Permits to start a business or to build a place for one On land that you believe you own you pay a yearly rent Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state You read about the current news in a regulated press and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold you trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame You've taken Satan's number You've traded in your name You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As Iowoki vanished in the midst from whence he came. His words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each God given right we only watch in tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave is this? And good afternoon ladies and gentlemen, this is the second hour of the afternoon intelligence report. I'm Mark Horkie One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories. Central, west, southeast, and north. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to us on LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com, pbn.4mg.com, and we are on live 365. Then go to Liberty Tree Radio. We're also on AM and FM micro stations, CB base stations, and Ultra Net technologies both east and west of the Mississippi along with southern and central Alaska. We're on the Hallmark Network on the eastern seaboard from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida. From the bottom of Florida across the arc of the Gulf of Mexico headed towards Louisiana, Texas, Oklahoma, a big chunk of Iowa slash Iowa along with Nebraska, and then also the third of Wyoming. You will also find us as we leap across the Mississippi and head back over there to the Golden Spike Project over on the eastern part of the half of the country, half because Mississippi, half that way, guys. Anyway, the Golden Sp like project with the restaurant crews, the grandma teams, and the OK teams doing their part to get the job done so that we are bridging that gap, that division with regard to America with the K. Well, I'll tell you, we have some interesting stuff going on right now. And it is Weapons Wednesday, by the way. I'm going to give you a couple of project ideas here. September 22nd, second year of Fabian Socialist and Soviet Socialist Occupation of America with a K-8 2010 Old Earth Calendar. Finally, blue-skied out on us. On and off it threatened like it was going to rain again, but it's kind of cleared up and now we're probably going to get cool. Well, it won't get cool. It's supposed to get hot tomorrow. We had a big warm front move in. It's supposed to be up into the 90s possibly tomorrow. There's one of the last of those big warm days here in September before things start to disappear on us. So get the work done. You can't outside. That's what we're doing, completing as much as we can before the big season change. Anyway, Weapons Wednesday. Couple things here. JgSales.com. JgSales.com. That's J and G Sales out of Prescott, Arizona. Firearms, ammunition, and accessories. I want to point this out that they have something for all of you out there that are looking for an AR-15 solution. And you can certainly check this out yourself. Go to JGSales.com. They've got an M16A1 slash AR-15, you know, A1. A complete kit for a very, very good price, although again still it's not the cheapest, but $499.95 for the complete kit. Now that's everything top to bottom. That's a standard M16A1 barrel. That is a standard sandbag grip. This is all Vietnam, the Vietnam Eurotype, late rifle, forward assist, charging handle, bolt carrier, everything is there. The only thing you need is a lower. You want to build a lower? Here's an idea. Buy the lower from KT Ordnance and put yourself a Liberty Arm together. The cool thing about this, everything is standard. If you were a Vietnam era to 80s era soldier, this weapon is completely familiar to you, top to bottom. The neat thing is, it's everything you need, top to bottom, to build whatever weapon you want. Whatever variation you want. This is the foundation. So if you want to alter it a little bit, like switch over to the M203 grips and put a 37mm flare launcher underneath it, congratulations. If you just like the M203 forward grip, it'll lock right onto this puppy. And there's a lot of those out there. They were a drug on the market. It used to be a dollar apiece, now they're going for about 10 to 20. So it varies, and condition varies for as far as cost goes too. But this is not a bad package. New barrel, everything is an excellent shape, but what I can see so far, there's a blow up of the basic kit. You'll have to again give them a call to see if there's anything like maybe they've already used them up and they wouldn't be surprised if they sell out pretty quick on this. But if you want to build your own AR-15, this is a solution. $499.95. Just under $500. Okay, it's $500, but it was $600 for the same kit not long ago. Now, another thing, if we can find decent or reasonably priced handguns out there in some form, I've been trying to pass the word on to you, and they do have some Tokarev's, $200 apiece. They do have also an ISSC Austria M22 for $279, and this is new in a two-tone. 22 long rifle and also 269 for the shorter standard frame. They have both a competition 5.5 inch and they got a 4 inch for 269 dollars. It's the Austria M22. That's a 22 caliber pistol. I've been mentioning that these things are available. There's a standard 5.5 inch with all blue top and bottom for two hundred seventy dollars okay guys we were paying for twenty two hundred dollars on average for a gun like this just ten years ago prices are up i just don't work now the talker as the only thing is about this talker is my question is whether not take a standard talker of uh... magazine this is a you go and i've had people asking me questions about this The pistol itself is $200. It's a Yugo Tokarev model M57 TT 760x25. Very good condition. Standard flat blade rear sight. Standard notch front blade. Blade front notch rear. otherwise, nothing exotic to write home about. It's a standard Tokarev. Just twice the price you were paying two years ago. That's all there is to it. They were $100 a piece, $79 a piece, $129 a piece. Well, now they're $200 a piece. It comes with a holster, comes with one spare magazine. And of course, and I'm looking while I'm reading here, I don't see anything I deem that this is a unique pistol with regard to the magazines themselves. So we need to find out more about that. Forgive me. But JG Sales, that's JGSales.com. And there was one other thing. Oh yes, they do have, although whether or not they have them in stock is the only question. I cannot confirm this, but they may have some of the nagot revolvers in stock still. We'll find out what happens there. But, in fact, I'm working on it even as we speak because, handguns, there we go, whether or not they have them in good quantity is a matter of you calling. $99.95. Hey, $5 less if you buy them from AIM surplus. But JG Sales for our friends west. I always like to give you options for different parts of the country because you can drive over to JG Sales and go buy this thing. If you're in Arizona, New Mexico, you might just want to drive over. Check and see what they have on the shelf. They're one of the bigger gun companies in the western part of the country. Another thing that they have is they do have police trade-ins at JG Sales. So if you're looking for a personal handgun, again, hand cannons guys, it's personal flavor whatever you want to go with that's up to you yes if you want your unit to standardize that's a good idea but remember you may have to catch us catch Ken some people have deeper wallets than others do and they're trying to get everything they need they need a long gun they need a handgun they need a hatchet they need if they need a band-aid they need a backpack they need web gear they need Gordon down the list So, if they have a minimal resource, you know, pod or pool of money available, obviously they're going to try and back down in some areas if they can to at least get something. Well, the NAGOT revolver fits that category. Ammunitions about $22 a box, plus or minus depending on who you buy it from and how much you buy. Preview Partisan, 50 round boxes, boxer primed brass. Military ball, ammo, can't beat the price. Now, $95 from AIM Surplus, $99.95, a whopping $100 for the Nengat revolver from JNG Sales. Now, they do have other items out there in stock, and you get all the other goodies with these Nagat revolvers. You get the tool, you get the cleaning rod, you get the lanyard, you get the holster. That makes it a closed package. You don't have to go searching around for anything. The basics are all there for you when you need them. So just pick up the weapon, carry it on down the road. One cool thing is they show how these things come. And when you see them in the rack in a box like this, it's like, Oh man, wouldn't it be nice to keep the box of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, I'd figure about 20 to a box is what it looks like. Keep the whole box together. Buy all 20 of them. It's only $2,000. Hey, that's not really a bad idea and a better investment than other things you can think of. And then get a bunch of ammo cans. and fill them up with 7.62 tokari, oh, forgive me, 7.62, they got ammunition and away you go. So there is another solution. Anyway, other handguns. I wanted to do this because this giving idea, the average Smith and Wesson Model 10 or the Taurus knockoff or the Rossi knockoff were between 110 and $150 apiece. Low end was $100 if you were lucky, okay? And it depends on where you are in the country. Well guys, there just doesn't seem to be anything in the way of less expensive or reasonably priced anything in a K frame out there at all. You're looking at a Taurus Model 94 and 22 long rifle 9 shot for $330. 45 long call 410, a Taurus model judge, $450, that's another revolver. Sorry, I'm not even going to go there and I'm not going to mention anymore. Prices are what we call goofy range. First of all, we need something that you can afford so that you can afford to shoot it because you've got to, you know, if it isn't the razor, it's the blades. So ammunition is the other half of the problem on this. What I would recommend is again, peruse to see what they have used over at the shop because you never know what's going to walk through the door. One of the things about pistols is that with JG sales they get police trade-ins and every once in a while they have some decent stuff that just shows up. So you might want to check them out just to see what they have on hand and I'll remind you that they do have some deals. But here's an example, and this is something that I had this fascinated by. Smith & Wesson Model 64 Revolvers. Batch of five gunsmith specials. Batch two. Okay. This is a second batch of five Smith and Wesson models, 64 revolvers. They are missing most of the parts. Duh-duh! You will get five revolver frames with barrels and side plates, which is cool. We should get a side plate. Ready to build your own guns for less than $100 per frame. Guys, that's what we used to pay for. We used to pay less than that for the whole gun. And basically the 64 is model 10. So, all the Model 10 parts, as far as I know, should actually roll right onto. You can do a mix and match on this Model 64 unless there's something strange that I've missed, and we'd have to do some research on that. A number of different problems, broken cylinder stop stud, one gun with cracked frame, in frame, weld, depending on what that is, those can actually be welded and actually, you know, everybody goes, welded! No, actually you can do that, but it's an armourer's thing and you want to be very careful. You don't cobble it up and drop it up. What you do is you actually reinforce it and then you're very careful with the rod that you use. Remember, you can buy rod even in stainless that is stronger than the metal it's welding. So, that's not a problem, it's something that's depending on where the stressor or the fracture point is. It is an issue because you want to be very careful. It means somebody overloaded something and wasn't paying attention with what they put into the cylinder. Model 10 parts, laying around all over the place in goofy range from 38 Smith & Wesson cylinders to 38 special. Recommendation, build this thing back up in standard 38 special. If you were going to look at these, again, it's going to be for somebody who has some idea what they're doing. When you're going into revolvers, there's a lot more work involved there when it comes to timing, etc. So this isn't just something where you throw the money at it and they'll all figure it out later. Wrong. You'd be better off taking that $500 and buying the AR-15 partset. But for somebody who knows what they're doing, Smith & Wesson, Model 64 revolvers, batch of five Gunsmith specials, batch number two, $500. Okay? and I believe it's twenty two dollars shipping for all five revolvers there you go while five hundred twenty five dollars plus or minus your insurance on that too ideas now wanted to some other things here you know i brought up that moss bolt action rifle that moths uh... that i picked up for fifteen dollars at the show It didn't look pretty. On the outside, Cosmolined up, gooped up. The stock was dark, dark, dark because it had been Cosmolined by the French military. God knows what year. And then pulled out by somebody. Then the gun was abused, probably left in a barn or left in the back of a truck bouncing around. Who knows? On the outside, not pretty. On the inside, it looked just like it had come from the arsenal. So by the time I was done with this and got all the parts together and stripped over, I let it soak. Remember we took off and left it soaking from the last hour? I broke it down, cleaned up all the parts, made sure that everything worked and everything could be disconnected that was supposed to be, making sure that I took care to clean off rust or oxidation. Were there any contact surfaces? Now, then properly papering over and covering anything that is working surface, Once everything was stripped and carefully cleaned, I bead blasted. In other words, a glass bead. I don't want a sand blast. I don't want a bead blasted to clean it up. That would be your best choice. You don't have a bead blaster? Oh well. Elbow grease. Dry steel wool. Number four. Clean everything up. Good. Top to bottom. Then take the time. Heat the weapon up. Now if you can get it out of the stock, that would obviously be your first best choice. Get the receiver assembly out of the stock, cover everything up, do a little research. I'm not going to go over the fine details on that because there's a little bit of work there, but it's not a big deal. And then I'm going to paint everything. Base color, OD green. Alternate colors to create disruption, earth brown, medium green or darker green, and also a lighter brown. There you go. Now I'm going to put the weapon back together. Then I'm going to put my B-squared mount, which I also cleaned up. I cleaned up very, very carefully because most B-squared mounts are aluminum, by the way. Always remember that. Don't go scrubbing on them. Once I roughed it up a little bit, I painted that with everything else so it's got the same color range. Now covering up the control points on the scope, I did the same thing to that, making sure I didn't paint over the lenses either. Duh! Let's make sure the lenses aren't covered. I can't understand. I just can't see through. That's something you don't want to find out after the fact, do you? Duh! So once we've got everything painted, we've got everything reassembled, we've got ourselves a nice little packet rifle, a little scout rifle, a little counter sniper rifle. Take your pick, whatever title you want to give it. It can be a real tack driver. I've sighted the weapon in, and now if I want to tweak it or add things to it, I'll figure out what to do. By the way, that little MOS bolt action still had the bayonet screwed in. Most people wondered what that stud was. It was just like, Is that for like a bipod? Well, as a matter of fact, what's really neat is that yes, you could use it for that. The way the MOS is set up, the bayonet screws into a socket. It's a socket bayonet, a fixture. You unscrew it, turn it around, screw it into place, now you've got this little cruciform bayonet. Well, guess what? If you get yourself a plastic clip-on bipod. That bayonet stud works as a fixture to clip on your bipod so it's not directly attached to the barrel. Just kind of neat. Now again, you want just a clip scissor type. It's real quick, it's fast, offers some support and allows you to relax a little bit. Breathe, squeeze, boom. Now, we've set that project aside. We've now got one of them built up. But I've got to try and figure out how to make some more weapons, and I don't have a whole lot of money. Also, I'm trying not to get any weapons on paper, if I were you, only because, again, I've got some considerations here, including the idea that, well, I really don't want to draw attention to the fact I'm building a 5-10 project. Let's say that I'm doing that and going to the gun shows. So, what's in the junk box receivers? What are the two calibers that are most common? Or, I should say, two weapons? Well, British Enfields, in their really pocky, beat up, you know, paint scraped or no paint at all on them or a real rough condition, Enfield parts are all over the place. Why? Well, British Enfield 303 ammo is kind of pricey. There's still a lot of odds and ends parts laying around. I'm not talking pristine. Oh, it's a collector's item. I'm talking about the oh my goodness. Let's take all the parts off this because this is a skanky rifle. And people will do that. Sometimes they leave the barrel on, sometimes they don't. If the barrel's on the weapon, on the action, on the receiver, sometimes it'll cost more. Sometimes it won't cost much more at all because the barrel's not in great shape. The other rifle parts that are out there in force because they've been defaced and they've been cobbled and people have taken those off and taken the nicer parts and put them on the rifles is the Japanese Arasaka. Everybody goes, oh, 6.5 JAP, that's outrageous. Well, wait a minute, back up. I just said receivers, guys. Because I'm going to do something with that. If you look around, first of all, let's point something out. The British Enfield is a very, very strong rifle. But most people don't know that the Arasaka rifle is a sister to the Enfield rifle. Yeah, even though the Japanese were ultra-nationalists, and even though the Japanese, like with their revolvers and machine guns, man, they made designs that are like, doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo, who the hell thought this up, right? Well, the Arasaka rifle is in reality a Lee design. It's actually a Lee, not only Enfield, it's a Lee design that was proposed and in fact was built to a degree by the English. They contracted it out to the Japanese. The Arasaka rifle, as we know, was progressively, shall we say, a Japanese-embraced design. So, the rifle itself is quite sound, and in fact it is one of the strongest, cleanest actions you could shoot. One of the safest actions, if properly built. Now, the reason I say this is because some people immediately go, yeah, what about all those weapons they made at the end of the wire? Well, they were making last-ditch weapons at the end of the war. It would be kind of good to know by reading up a little bit what it is they put together and what it is to avoid. Right? Because some of those weren't even the equivalent to what we call railroad tie rifles. Like the Germans and the South Americans made a bunch of those towards the post-Armistice period, post-World War I to pre-World War II period. Still good receivers, guys. If tempered properly, they've worn for 30, 40, 50, 60, 70 years, and you still can put a bullet in them, the chamber's correct, and they pull the trigger, and the bullet goes down range. Doesn't tumble. However, it may not be a tack driver anymore, but that could be cleaned up too, and that'll be subject for a later discussion here. Now, Mark's looking for JAP air socket parts. What do I need? Well first of all I'll find some receivers. If I look in the junk boxes I can find some ugly receiver, Arasaka receivers, 6.5 typically. Oh they could be 7.7, either one's fine. The 7.7 would be a good choice, the later models, for about $10. We're talking stripped. If I look through that junk parts I'll find a rough looking magazine well. I'll find a follower and spring. I don't care if they're pretty and I don't care if they have a little rust on them by the way. Then I need the screws to hold that in place. Bing, bing, there's two. Make sure they got good thread. That's the big thing. Also again, watch to make sure the slots aren't rolled out all the way. Typically what happens is somebody wanted a prettier set of screws and they throw them in the box and they had to pile them from Grandpa who had a bunch of gun parts. And so everybody throws the junk stuff in the junk box. We want to make sure that we have our safety, that we've got the bolt. You'll find all these typically not necessarily complete. You'll find them in parts. We don't care if they match. And we don't care if they have a pretty finish. In fact, ideally, if they're less pretty, you can talk the price down. Hey, this thing's a clunker. It's not a collector's item. No, it's just a useful part. I'll pay a reasonable price. But if you're lucky, you're talking all the internals, the magazine well, for another $10, $15, $20. Just be patient. Look for the junk. Don't look for the Cadillac stuff. Okay, now I've got a receiver and I got myself a magazine well and I have myself a bolt and I even got the extractor and everything on that. And if I was lucky, I might find a whole complete bolt. And everybody's going, no, Mark, you don't have a barrel. And even if you do, it's in 6.5 JAP. Well, let me point out something about 6.5 JAP and 7.7 JAP. Both of those slash Japanese. This JAP is just a abbreviation, guys. We're not trying to be mean to the Japanese. It's just called 6.5 JAP or 7.7 JAP. Now, both of those are semi-rimmed cases. Does everybody understand that? Huh? Okay, there is called... What you have in the 308, the 30-06, the 8mm Mauser is what's called a rimless case. Well, then there's a rimmed case like the 303 British infield cartridge. But the 7.7 JAP and the 6.5 JAP are typically semi-rimless or semi-rimmed, depending on, you know, half full, half empty. This means that they actually have a mild rim around the case. A little bigger than the base of the diameter of the case itself. Now, what's the advantage of this? Well, let's see. Mark can't really afford 6.5 JEP. It's out there right now from Preview Partisan. So if you've got a 6.5 JEP, don't switch it out. Leave it the way it is. Just buy lots of ammo while you can. Whenever somebody has a well, start dipping from it. But Mark's building up a rifle from scratch. So let's see. Let's take our mic and let's do a base check on the 7.7 Japanese. My bolt face is 7.7 JEP, by the way. That's what I picked. I chose 7.7. That's what I got. That'd be ideal. 6.5 will do the same job here. But think about this. Now that I can see how big that is and how much bass there is, what do I have an American commercial cartridge? It's pretty close. And by the way, it's rimmed. Oh, you thought I was going to go with a military cartridge, didn't you? No, no, sorry guys. I'm going to go with something that's most of the most common of the commercial rounds available and it's in a cowboy gun. 30-30 Winchester. Now, what does this mean? Well, this is where I'm going to spend some money, but it's not going to be outrageous. And I can get a pretty nice barrel in a 20-inch barrel for about how much again? Let's see, I'll bet you if I look around, I can find a 30-inch barrel with an Arasaka thread for about $60 to $80. Now, by the way, my barrel length, I choose the barrel length, but the price is pretty much the same no matter which way we go. What do you think about that? Pretty cool, huh? Now, once I have my barrel picked out, I still need a stock, by the way. Well, there's two directions I can go. If I look around, there were some companies back in the 80s, oh, that's 20, 30 years ago, that made synthetic Zytel stocks for pretty much every military rifle that was out there. So you might find, if you're lucky, one of those 6.5 JAP Arasaka Sporters stocks laying around. They're very rare, so they're not your first choice. They're not most likely, but you might find one laying around. So there's your stock base right there. On the other hand, you go over to, for instance, Evil Santa down there at Nob Creek, because a guy who's got three or four barrels of just junk stocks, and maybe sometimes some receivers with some barrels, you know, some barrels on them, but don't count them to be pretty. And lo and behold, there'll be a bunch of nagot stocks. and Moss rifle stocks and sometimes some US carbine stocks. Oh, and wait a minute. There's a couple of chopped down Arasaka rifle stocks. Price, oh, about five, $10 a piece. The more you buy, the cheaper they are. So anyway, what are we looking at? Well, I'll tell you what, something that might be very, very useful in that we end up with a tech driving Arasaka in .30-30 caliber. Wow. Now somebody's going to go, well 30-30 is not that powerful. You're right. 30-30 isn't that powerful. Not really. But it's powerful enough. In fact its performance range is comparable to and in fact its superior to the 762x39 if it's loaded right. But it's a nice medium caliber. Now, I can, without doing any special tapping, here's Mark's mystery magic solution to the rifle as far as sighting systems go, because everybody's going to go also. Man, that Arasaka's got some really crude sights on it. Well, I'm doing no worse than a Mauser. But guess what? I can, without worrying about the sights, I can turn around and I can put A B-squared scope mount on that rifle without having to tap it or do anything strange, exotic, or unusual. That's the key to the B-squared scope mounts. And Arisaka scope mounts are out there because, eh, nobody was too excited about scope mounting a 6.5 Jap because of the price of the ammo. Except my rifle's not going to be in 6.5 Jap. My new barrel, which was the most expensive part of this whole project, is going to be the centerpiece of what happens or how we make this weapon work. And it's going to be in 3030 Winchester. Wow. Now the next option, well just like I did with that Moss rifle. Now there's two things I could do with this. I already got that Moss rifle built up and I'm not trying to go go extreme. So I either A, bought that cheap hand-me-down scope from the other guy that offered it, which I did anyway because I needed to build that rifle up. But now I'm going to build a bunch of these rifles and I want them to be kind of consistent. So I go to Boss Row or one of these other companies that's got a bunch of stuff sitting over there at the Dunham Sporting Goods, Wally World, whatever. Although ideally I want to buy it from somebody that I know if I can. But I can turn around and buy a whole bunch of the same model of scope that will fit 1 inch rings. and I can put it on my Arasaka 3030 project, I can put it on my Maas project, I can put it on any other rifle I want, and when I pick that rifle up, all of my optics are going to be the same as far as image. That's more important than anything else, consistency in the system, at least with the optics. I may not have the exact same rifle, but consider this with this Arasaka project. How many Arasakas can I build in 3030? How much 3030 ammunition can I buy? Lots. Now, I can go one step further because everybody goes, well, man, 30-30, it's got like a 130-140 grain bullet, you know, maybe 170 grain upper end. Yeah, I know. And you can go even heavier if you want to reload. But, well, here's another consideration. I built up that 30-30 tack driver. By the way, I'm going to have to clean the stock up. I might want to put a rubber recoil pad on that after all. I'll take the good stock plate off it. Any stock plate or anything I can sell to somebody else, I'll do. Now, if it looks like it's a metal stock plate and it's functional and everything works the way it is, I may not change it out at all. I'll just leave it the way it is because I can make that work. Remember that the Arasaka was built for us by an average smaller person. Okay, the average ambient height for the Japanese being here smaller than American. So that's another consideration with the design of the rifle. But I can add the rubber buck plate to thicken out the stock to make it longer so it's more comfortable for you bigger shooters out there. But once I've got this all configured, and I'm going to paint it like I did my Moss Rifle, I can also then look at engineering. I got a brand new barrel. I went with a medium heavy barrel. I made sure that I floated it. That's not a big deal. That's not hard to do with that stock. Now I've got something that's pretty well uninterrupted, but I want to make this thing work like a tack driver, like the tack driver it truly is. I've got a nice strong action, closes on the cock, you know, it cocks on the closing stroke, guys, forgive me. Cocks on the closing stroke, just like the British Empire, you've got to remember that, it's like shoved down and cocked. However, one of the interesting things about this is I can load the 30-30 because it's a closed bolt action to whatever spec I want. I don't have to worry about a spider point bullet with a bolt action rifle, although I do remember with a lever action because if I have one bullet behind the other and there have a spider point rounds and a lever action case magazine, when I fire the spring compresses all the rounds slap back at each other. If I'm not careful depending on how powerful the cartridge is. Every one of those little projectile points works like a firing pin on the bullet in front of it and you can have a catastrophic failure in the magazine well, which is a long tubular magazine guys, but I'm gonna boom actually sounds like a fire a bunch of nasty firecrackers in your hands right there with that you know that happens so you're not gonna make that mistake but I can load and for you know for the bolt action especially we know before my Arasaka 3030 I could load discarding say bow and I can push 5,000 feet per second. Minimal felt energy. 5,000 feet per second means no time in flight to the objective, to the target. Oh my goodness. Now I take my Loeira soccer rifle and I've turned it into an array gun, guys. See how that works? Now I've compressed the time and I'm hoping, you know, in fact I've got to talk to the guys. You know, one cool thing is shotgun news. does an excellent series of articles on gun projects and this is something where there's a bunch of these pre uh... ninety eight designs there many other rifles out there this project would apply to uh... the model ninety five mousers is a bunch of ninety five actions out there fairly little fairly large base some of them were in the rimmed cases depending upon who they were built for or semi rim well think about it but i want to upon what it is Here's an opportunity for us to plug and play with another receiver and build up a 30-30 manually operated rifle. Very clean, very crisp, easy to use, lots of ammo. It's not in a bugger caliber that's going to be a problem down the road. Doesn't mean that 30-30 isn't going to become, you know, rare as ammunition in general is used. But it's the most common or one of the most common rifle cartridges out there in the country. .30-06, .308, .30-30 and .762x39 are dominant cartridges in the industry. In the commercial industry, .30-30 is right up there. You can find it in Canada, you will find it in Mexico, you will find it all across the United States. So again, solutions, not just lamenting about the problems, ways that we can come up with ways to make our weapons work for us, what parts work for us. Hell, junk boxes work for us. That's what we're looking at. Just start thinking this way. Consider some of the other lesser cartridge rifles can be used for short stroke weapons. 6.5 wasn't a really big case. 7.62x39 isn't really a big case. I wonder what it would cost to do an Arasaka barrel in 7.62x39. Now the only problem is whether or not the dimensions are close enough that you would have to do anything special with a bolt. Remember, first rule is little or no processing with a bolt face. That's where everybody always runs into problems with a machinist. Instead, try to match up whatever you're going to use in the way of a case to work with a bolt face as it is. In other words, that part of the machine determines what you're going to do with the rest of the machine. Think about it. Now, the other consideration to those, for instance, there's a bunch of 7mm Mausers out there. Mauser, actually they were 7mm Mauser actions, but the barrel's been torqued off and they need a stock. Well, guess what? In fact, you'll find those actions complete and laying around pretty cheap. Pre-98, no FFL required. Well, I don't want to grossly over pressure it. BS, what I need is something that's consistent, drives a bullet into the same spot over and over again, no matter where I point it. Where I point it, it hits. That's what I need to see happen. That's how you need to be thinking. Okay? So when you're looking at these project rifles, look at the most common caliber or the most common, or any of the rounds that are available. Look at it again, performance, accuracy over volume, fire, and again, I'm still getting good energy. It's not like I'm dumping a 22 downrange, although even that's nice when the time comes and there are applications for it. In this case, 7.62x39. Another consideration, 5.45x39. Oh, that's right. The base of that case is the same. It tapers at a reasonable angle so we have excellent extraction capability. The bullet itself is again 53 grain, nothing big. It really is a wood chuck round there. It really is a 22, less than 22 in 545. But it is a roundwood potential. heavy barrel, longer barrel than the AK, manually operated rifle. I would say you could get that to be a real tack driver. Steyr made a bunch of bolt action 5.45x39 rifles for the East Germans just before the Cold War, before the wall dropped. And some of you might actually have them. You might remember they came out, were they crude? Yeah, they were Eastern European type, you know, Warsaw Pact crude. Did they work? Oh hell yes they did. Now, we're talking about building something of comparable stature, but doing it with all hand-me-down parts, especially made by master machinists a hundred years ago. Hell yes, you can make this happen, guys. So, start thinking ahead. Hopefully, I'm giving some of you tool and die people and machinists and some of you kid people something to think about. The big thing is going to be the stock. If you, rather, and again, look for crude. Look for something that's already damaged or broken, in other words forend has already been cut or something, that would be your best choice. And that'll be your base stock for the weapon. Then you can modify it and you won't cry about it because somebody else already cobbled it to pieces anyway. That's one of the other considerations when you're building stuff like this. You don't want to destroy something that's already pristine military surplus. Guys, those are collector's items. And if the weapon is that clean, there's no reason to change it out. What we're looking at is all these parts laying around that people don't think are really worth the time. There's a bunch of stuff you can do to make this work for you or there are many other ideas. Heck, I've seen people even go to the point where they've taken four grips for the M16 and used them to create a free-floating mechanism with a stiff tube back to the receiver on some of these bolt actions. so that they end up with a cooling system, they end up with a comfortable foregrip that's, you know, when it's synthetic, and they modify the weapon so that kind of like what the Spanish did with their FR rifles, where they were built with the same sights basically as the HK91 slash CETME, well, all of their bolt guns were switched over for training purposes and for militia use and for home guard use. to match up to the CETME rifle so when you were training with one, in reality you were training with the other. You would lock into the rifle very quickly, at least understand basic rifle marksmanship, and the weapon itself performed in much the same way. A lot of you still have those in the .308 right now because they were converted over to 7.1680 when they were turning to FR rifles for the Spanish. Now the same can be said for these other Arasaka 3030s or the Arasaka's modified to whatever. The Arasaka Japanese, they're the dog on the market. I'm bringing up Arasaka because it's a dog on the market guys. A lot of people have the parts. Hopefully they're not going to be throwing them away. They typically won't. They'll kind of gravitate towards one guy that's got a lot of junk at the show. And that's who you need to look at. You're looking for something that is available in quantity and cheap and that you can work with. Now, one of the things somebody might mention. Mark, it's got a straight bolt. Hey, follow instructions, turn bolt down. That'll deal with the scope issue. Okay, follow instructions. Remember one nice thing about the bolt on the Arasaka? It's far to the rear. So two things are a consideration. Number one, looking at the length of the scope when purchasing it and where to station it. Number two, again, get used to the idea of doing a project. You're going to have to turn the bolt down. Now I wouldn't cut it off and reach it. No, you should be able to do what most armors used to do on a regular basis and turn the bolt down. That can be done. It won't be that difficult to do and it's a pretty straightforward project. So anyway, ideas, not just lamenting about the problems, how do we deal with getting more firearms? These prices are so heavy. Well, the other advantage of these project ideas is that you can buy them in pieces. When you go to a gun show, you should have a list of things mentally that you're looking for. mmm, Arasaka parts. What's on my Arasaka list? Well, anything I can find in the way of these, these, these, and these, I need 10 of this, I need 10 of that, I need 5 of these, I need 5 of that, I need 5 more of these, I need 10 of that. And then, you know, needless to say, you're looking in the industry for somebody who's doing a, you know, doing barrels, and you're going to need a go-no-go gauge. That's the only thing that's going to be an additional expense. You're going to need a 30-30 go-no-go gauge. And that, of course, set up for the Arasaka project. Then you know, you don't want you may want to use other calibers 762 by 39 7 5 4 5 by 39 I think that was two would be interesting cartridges and the Arasaka action would have no problem handling the energy of the cartridge at all So there's again ideas not just one-man thing. Anyway, I hear the I hear a beep. Who do we have? Hey Marcus, Bon Secours and Columbus. Go ahead, sir. Jump in there. Hey, I'm kind of late here. I was late getting home from work with track We got a ton of rain here, but um hey I was able to find a c-52 at the gunwale that was here in town in Columbus and I had one question because I bought it from a gentleman's private collection and he was actually surprised I knew what it was when I was looking you know when I saw it and it came with like a pole hook or something like that it's kind of like like a ring at one end a metal and then it came in a bag paracord and i was wondering what that was if it is a ring with a paracord attached to it uh... okay it may be a how long is the court is it like arm length Oh, yeah, that's about right. There's probably a lanyard. Okay. It was probably designed, if you remember, you look on the side of the pistol, you'll see that there's a lanyard ring station. Okay. It's like a key ring type, am I correct? Uh-huh. Yeah, it just slides right on there and stays on permanently, and that was hooked up either to your belt, or like you said, a lot of guys, you look at World War II, you see British officers especially like using them, and they had the lanyard hanging around the neck. That way, if you got stunned, you didn't lose the gun. Gotcha. Okay, I remember two of them. And the other thing is the Russians, take a look at the, I'll tell you what, if you go to JG Sales, take a look carefully at the picture of the Tokarev that's there. You'll notice there's a lanyard ring on it. But look at where the lanyard ring is. It's on the magazine. Right. Now the reason for that is, and most people, if you look at the Russians, all the Russian AK mags used to be the same way. All of their equipment had lanyards on it. Not just the pistol. The pistol has its own lanyard ring. The magazines had their own lanyards too. The logic behind that is, well let's see, we're out there in a field situation, there's three feet of snow, in fact there's snow for about two Ukraine's. If I drop the magazine, that's not good. I wonder if we can find it. Well, I'll tell you what, hold on here a second. Pull, pull, pull, pull, pull. Look, I found it, I have my lanyard. All of the original AK magazines were built the same way. Okay. All original AK mags, that tells you, that dates them. Nobody's really talked about this much. I was issued a Chinese type defense rifle when I was with SF. I actually carried one when I was working as a radio operator with Special Forces. All of the AK mags that we had, that was one thing I thought was notable. All of the AK mags that we had, which I think were mostly Russian by the way, not Chinese. We are all of the earliest models and they all had the lanyard ring on the base. Every AK mag that was supposed to come under your pouch, think about that, had a wraparound lanyard rope like a micro parachute cord is what they use just like we have in our survival kits. Remember the pilots, if you see pilots pressure suits and somebody has a bunch of them that are shredded at a surplus store because they bought a bunch of stuff, see if you can get them for free. And then, don't say anything, but first of all take a look. If you look on the sides of the legs and underneath the arms on the torso units, you'll find that there's a micro-fine ultra-tough parachute cord. Now pilots are taught that that's part of their survival gear, but most Americans don't even know it exists. So, even though they may have shredded, it'll be like sage color green, they'll have shredded and cut and hacked and chopped and all the cloth, because they're told to destroy them. Typically, a guy gets them, if he's got a surplus story, you know, where he bought a batch of cloth, or a slash rags. There's usually some goodies, he goes, man, I want those pants, they're not rags. Well, he gets all these other pressure suits, and most people don't know to look in the pressure suits for two reasons. A, for those strings. And the other part is that there's actually a survival knife in a slip slot in one of those, in one of the leg pockets. So you want to check all the pockets that are on the suit, and then you want to take and disassemble and unravel all of that thread. There's tens of yards of rope there, of light rope. And those make great lanyards for what we're talking about. Because the regular parachute of course is kind of bulky. It's good, but it's bulky. This stuff is much finer, but it has the same tensile strength as regular parachute cord. Makes it really useful. I won't ask what you got for it. Did you get spare mags for the pistol? Yeah, it came with the two that came with it in the factory and the factory holster. It's the factory holster that holds the spare magazine on the outside. And then it kind of just has the old fashioned clip down. the plant a poster i would pick with that be quite honest i would change on that uh... we were going to be in the field most of the time you know that's the bottom line it's like well i mean speed holster yellow speed holster is nice on occasion and still useful but remember if you do that you're going to be clean weapon a lot more because everywhere the water goes where runs down your body it heads towards a low spot and guess what your handgun sit down below So, it's going to get dirt, crud, everything you think of. So the flap holster is still a good choice. And you still have to clean the weapon. You've got to protect it from moisture. But the other thing is collect more mags right away. I was just looking to see if JG sales, as long as I had him up here, I don't see... Oh, correct myself, slap me in the head there. You might be in luck. No, CZ82 magazines, but no CZ52 mags. So we'll have to look around. But J.J. says... Yeah, I've seen a few of them at the same show. They're usually around about 25 apiece. Kind of steep. But, you know, it's all about survival. Just keep collecting them one at a time. Oh, yeah. And real quick, before the top of the hour, I'm going to send you guys some Four Stomper Music, that's kind of Patriot-oriented. Oh yes, okay. And a friend of mine who's a musician in New York City. And then I found a World War I, a book from World War I for the Selective Service. It has a bunch of stuff about Wilson in it, President Wilson. And so I thought that'd be it. cool collection, you know, to your book collection. Oh, I appreciate it. If you want to keep it, you can make a photocopy. If you can send me the original, I'd like to thank you. No problem. And I'll throw in a couple other goodies there too. Our President Wilson, who promises he's not going to send our boys to fight a European war. Yeah, and there's this big book on, hey, that's what we're going to do. My favorite is, the most important thing is, Mr. Wilson would make sure he wasn't the one that was sent over there to Europe. He's like most of these turkeys. All these characters that have done this are typically the ones that have never been in uniform. They never planned on defending the country. They were just planning on making sure they threw other bodies in front of them. The Dick Cheney syndrome or the, you know, again, the old Simba, Ding Dong, or Hillary. Take your pick. Anyway, another thing on that CZ52, buy more ammo, buy more ammo. I'm noticing you've been heating up the ammunition. There was just a ton of it at the gun show, the preview partisan. Oh yes, that's good. That's brand new ammo. 85 grain. I had about 300 rounds to buy the ammo first. That's Boxer Prime. The preview part is Boxer Prime reloadable too. Every round gets collected and put back into the box it was shot out of and then tried to mark it for your gun so you know that it's already case fired. It's already form fired. Real quick reloading. I'm going to go ahead and shade on out here. I got in here at the last minute. Oh, not a problem. And a good question too. Now, does that look like that was factory? That ring, the lanyard ring? Was it something? Yeah, it hasn't even been taken out of the thing. It's like factory sealed. Oh, OK. Yeah, that'll be a speak. You can make another one up and keep that one safe if you want to, because they're going to be fewer and farther between as a collector's items too. Carter, well, I'll let you close out here. I'm going to shade on out. And thank you, sir. God bless her. And we're the top. Boy, I'll tell you what we've got. 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