September 10, 2010
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Mark Koernke discussed long-range precision shooting fundamentals, including windage reading, elevation adjustment, and the importance of mastering shooting skills across various rifle platforms from .22 to .50 caliber. He emphasized tactical applications of marksmanship in defensive scenarios, proper equipment maintenance in adverse weather conditions, and the need for Americans to develop self-reliance and resistance to government overreach. The show included practical examples from shooting competitions, discussions of Michigan militia training facilities, and calls encouraging listeners to support the Liberty Tree Radio network.
- long-range shooting
- windage and elevation
- 50 caliber
- precision marksmanship
- michigan militia
- camp emerson
- tactical training
- night vision
- second amendment
- preparedness
- government overreach
- self-defense
- rifle marksmanship
- combat shooting
- constitutional rights
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Live 365 We fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from Tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. The Tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate. And your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold you trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame You've taken Satan's number you traded in your name You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children can be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each God given right we only watching tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free? I hear the drums. Well good. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the afternoon intelligence report. I'm R. Kwonky one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories central west east and southeast well ladies and gentlemen you're listening to us on liberty tree radio dot four mg dot com pbn dot four mg dot com and we are live three sixty five then go to liberty tree radio we're also on a m f m micro station cb base stations and ultra Net technologies both east and west of the Mississippi along with southern and central Alaska We're on the hallmark network on the eastern seaboard from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida from the bottom of Florida across the arc of the Gulf of Mexico headed towards Louisiana, Texas Oklahoma a big chunk of Nebraska and then the third of Wyoming parts of Iowa to first mentioned and back across to the golden spike project on the smoky though that's right the blue ridge all up and down across that uh... body of mountains and valleys we have people bridging that gap which is actually more formidable than rivers people now that something most everybody doesn't realize it's the mountain ranges that are actually because significant obstacle issues with communications many other uh... tactical and overall strategic issues during the battlefield developments here in North America as things continue to us. Remember that the cursor area, the conflict, you're going to be trying to do as much to get signals and operations in place beforehand. Preferably stuff that's a lot harder to ID and detect. We have a lot of technology we can use that's very, very narrow, very, very specific to allow us to separate ourselves from the conventional Internet and from the rest of the system. So, the sooner we get that done, the better off everybody will be. Anyway, it is a beautiful demi-cloudy day today. I don't know if I said demi. I said demi. It's the September 10th, second year Fabian Socialist and Soviet Socialist Occupation of America with a K. That's right, year 2010, old earth American calendar before the bad guys tried to plug everything in. uh... it is a friday quartermaster friday as a matter of fact but we are prepared what you know about a whole bunch of stuff we've got uh... first of all a couple of other event activities uh... that need to be uh... flag all we might have down with us we might yeah there we go and couple things we're going to be touching on the doing on to be taken care of force uh... here a little bit for dying need to uh... make remind everybody that there are No closures, none, none, none. There is 100% positive activity. All the facilities here in Michigan this weekend, all the training sites have been upgraded. Everybody did all their field work. Somebody is exhausted, but earlier in the spring to the early summer, all the grunt work was done. So guys, all of the facilities, Camp Emmer- Camp Emmer- Camp Emerson, Camp Wayland North, camp wolf I believe also all course negative hit you and uh... the old marangers one two and three are definitely open I believe they're the only thing is different they might actually be working on a shotgun range number four which is gonna be a combat walkthrough with little urban and a little bit of rural so don't worry get go over check that out here pretty soon I'm building a few wall sections for that particular project that will be coming up and it will be in vinyl, which is what we do with a lot of stuff in vinyl. We haven't paid attention to the videos, we're going to discuss that in a minute. It is a beautiful Friday, Don, and I've had a bunch of questions about looking at some of the other emails and spikes that I got from the alternate spikes. One of the things that has been coming up here is So Here's a real good illustration of how. You know that band that you're going to deal with the man in front of you. You might be able to pause the man in front of you and deal with the man behind him. Think about it. But with a pike and a man in front of you, this is why they built your derogatory term. Because the pikers would, if the line held, would stand behind the man in the front welding the band net or the sword and he would hold that long spear over that man's shoulder and stab the opponent. Sometimes the piker would be two and three people back. And you can understand now why. Well, you piker you. Well, it's not a reference to being lazy. And you think about the way of waging war there. Working behind a man or even two men deep and killing your opponent, you're four men away from you with a long shaft, a spear, a pike. Well now that kind of gives you a little bit of insulation from the battle doesn't it? You can imagine some bikers didn't get a lot of respect from the guy with the bayonet and the guy with the sword. You know what I mean, the guy right there on the front line. They were defending the pikers. But again, I bring that as an example because you know, if the other side could push a button and kill you halfway around the world, they'd do it. Don't say that as a defeatist thing, I'm just saying they'd do it. But you know, they in particular here in Michigan, we've said this before, and it's a down thought. There are a couple of cities around the nation that they would sacrifice. They just put to the torch only in a modern way. But here there are places that they don't really want to harm. You know Mark I've heard the, well all they'd have to do is nuke Yosemite Park and that'd make the biggest volcano the world has ever seen. Well what good would that do them if they waste all of America when they want to take it over? See there's a balance in everything isn't there you guys? But all they gotta do is nuke that dome there in Yosemite. Like Yosemite in Michigan, they don't want to ruin that area. They've already claimed our national parks for them. And Michigan, you can almost call all of Michigan a national park. I've said it before, you guys. They're going to have to put boots on the ground to come in here and kill us. You know what I mean? Because they're not going to want to do it from a long ways away. This is what might save the gem of the world when it comes to it. With that in mind, Mark, we've expounded on this a number of times, would you? Let's go back to the next slide. earlier example would you want to fight that guy with a pike with a bayonet if all you had with a bayonet now you might get in and you might get beyond that tip and you might close and be able to use the bayonet but if he's any good he's going to keep you at that distance isn't he he's going to keep working the tip of his spear on you isn't he and if he's good as you try to come inside he'll use the length of that spear in order to deflect now the same thing can happen again you know you want to bring a 22 to a rifle fight and invoking that I'll say if you want to learn to shoot 1000 yards, and this isn't a Don original, I give credit where credit's due and skipped hell, but brought this thought to the hour many, many years ago. If you want to learn to shoot shy tech or 1000 yards, put 22 and start shooting it at 100 yards. Because for, and this is kind of true to a great extent, the scale is the same. You guys just 10 times bigger. You're gonna play a lot in wind, but the thing about that, and this is what we need to emphasize here because you know, you're gonna kinda see one wind for a hundred yards. Now you might wonder, what is he saying? There's only one wind. Well this is true, there is only one wind, but it can go in many different directions, can't it? There's only one wind, but it kinda can't make up its mind sometimes. And as it moves across little, even on flat ground with no trees, well not really flat ground, And as it whirls around a tree and it moves across little divots in the ground, you're going to find windage. And now, one way to do this, you guys, if you don't believe me, look at, I think you can go someplace and somebody's got some 50 caliber shoots somewhere. I'll do some research on that and try to bring you some because you know what? When you're looking down the range, 1,000 yards, you look off to either side and right at the spring line, you know, four meters out, five yards out, there's a windage. At each end of the firing line, there's a windage flag. Long red strips dividing that, so about 300, 600, 900 yards. And then at 1,000 yards, there's another one. And it might be just three stripping, you guys. I've sat there, and now this is the difference between 100 and 1,000 yards. You're going to learn windage. And you're going to learn to judge that wind the way the grass moves, or the way the grass lays over and stays constant, or wiggling back and forth just a little breeze, you guys, and starting to lay over more and more constant. to bring up and when the trees start to whirl north and then they start to move in one direction. You're going to have to learn to gauge that for yourself. I can't tell you on the radio here that when that grass will save that for a moment. But you guys, you can be at a yard range. But we'll talk about that 1,000 yard range. But you can even be at a 500 yard range and see multiple different exhibitions of wind range. Wind directions. 1,000 yard range. You might look to the left and look to the right. Well, let's just say they might even be still. And you say, oh wow, this is great. No wind at all to mess with. Halfway down the range, and those flags are about 15, 20 degrees standing off. See, those flags are consistent. You can learn to judge those, the flags, how the flag stands in the wind versus, or rather equals how fast. And obviously, by which way the flag is visiting in the air. You guys, that gives you direction. I didn't need to say that, did I? But you know what? Let's fill the blanks here. Flag, if it's out of the air, 45 degrees. You know you got a pretty stiff wind out there but you know, Chip told us once Mark about contest. A 50 caliber, 54 clicks of left windage in, 54 clicks. Now 54 click, 100 yards is divide that by 4 and then you got your inches. How about somewhere 13 inches, 13 and a half inches, something like that. Your yards, at 100 yards, you know, that's about 100 yards you guys. So think of the, there was 50, 60 mile an hour winds and they were still shooting you guys, third core people because you know most people say they're 15 mile an hour wind and even a lot of snipers in schools are taught, not just in America, that 15, 20 mile an hour wind you need to reposition yourself so you're shooting straight up or straight down wind. And even shooting straight up or straight down wind, 1,000 yards, that's not saying that all of that wind is going to be going one way for all of that flight time, this flight time. But you know what? 750 grain AMAX bullet with teen grains of HB50 powder in it and a 28 inch, 29 inch barrel is going to get you around 17, or rather I'm sorry, 2700 to 2740 feet per second. That flight time from the muzzle, you've got that 750 grain bullet down there in about 1.38 to 1.42 seconds. that A lot of people that say they just look at that first flag and use that. And that gets them on paper and that keeps them competitive, but that doesn't, those aren't the winners. And again, there's a lot of people, but in a shooting competition you guys, there's only one winner, right? The guy who shot the smallest goop over the longest period of time, or you know what I mean, however the contest rules and regulations are laid out. But the guy who looks at the flags all the way down the range, the guy who's going to build the small And again, I'll go back to that because you can find some places. And if you can go out in the wild and shoot, you can find places where the wind will change as in your 100 yard shoot of your 22, you guys. If you look for it, then you can start going to vain. This is point of impact because you know what? At that 100 yards, well, first thing you're going to have to do is get your level zero. You have to bring up your elevation for your target. Even if it's not right center, smack in the bullseye, smack in the bullseye. but left and right of it, right? And now your left and right, that's your windage. Your height of your group, and in fact, another name out on the table here. David Tubbs, thousand yard range, you guys. They're at the Whittington Center out there in Raton, New Mexico. It's named after his father. His name is Charles, but he likes to call him David Tubbs. Nine or ten or eleven or twelve time Palma Champion, you guys. So, when he talks about, you know, gauging your windage and whatnot, you kind of have to think that, well, he knows what he's talking about. The kind of guy that'll look at all the flags down and judge the influence of that 500 yards of flood. And then when the... You guys, you might not believe it, but over a thousand yards you might see the flags going one way at the firing line and the flags going the other way at a thousand yards. How are you going to figure on that situation? The easiest way to do that is to have done it before, isn't it? And again, I have to let this dog out. She's standing at the door moaning. One of the things we want to touch on here real quick, and this is critical to our overall operations, guys, remember we're talking about being able to read the flag. Well, as we know in a combat situation we may not have markers, although I will hint that it's not hard, especially in an established area where you are going to be operating, to create markers that can be done in a number of different ways and be built in such ways that only you or ideally you will be the one to notice the fact that you set up range wind markers in areas that you've set up as kill zones. We do this all the time. But we also can read the environment. Now this is a little more difficult, but Creedmoor shooters as they used to be called, the old Creedmoor rifle. Well, Creedmoor again came from a specific range guys. The Creedmoor concept. And of course rolling off of practical application and going into the extreme with competition. It should be understood that reading the environment, reading the grass, the leaves, the trees, watching for wind factor, flags for instance, even flags that are just deployed in an urban area, rural area. depending on how they're standing, you can gauge the velocity of the wind at specific ranges. Now, does this mean it will be consistent? Because you also have to look at roll in terrain and other natural blockages. Tree lines change dramatically the wind activity downrange. And if you're shooting down into an area, you have to also observe the tree lines that you'll be shooting past. because they may take and create different venturis or create different updrafts or may prevent them from being any draft goal. That's why they call it a wind break. So it can deflect things. So you might be reading something, but you have to observe, even if you're looking, say, at a flag that may be 1,000 yards down range. If it's to the right or left of the objective, you also have to pay attention to what's near the objective and evaluate the way you've designated it as your kill zone right off the bat. This is the most common mistake made with a lot of long-range combat shooting that takes place. You learn the first time around and you start to correct accordingly. The other option is to build your own markers. There are a couple of movies out there that are kind of interesting. They show the British Army in action, for instance in the colonial era in Africa. In one scene you see the quartermaster and the armors all setting up and of course you see them there pulling boxes of ammo out down and they've got the old Martini Henry. I say oh boy. And there's a couple of guys though that got stakes and they're running and they're actually pacing or running and one guy's walking quickly and the other guy's coming up behind him and they're actually marking out the distances for engagement in preparation for the attack. Now they're going to defend of course. Now, why are they doing that? Well, guys, those sights on those rifles will perform, but why guess when somebody can prepare? Oh, yeah. So the guys would run out, of course. The individuals would go out to range, establish the fixed ranges for the defensive perimeter, and then, of course, we're doing a scurry hotfoot back inside the perimeter, don't you know? And then there wasn't a whole lot of guessing to take place. Well, if you have a fixed area of control, You want to map out your ranges for that reason. That's another thing that integrates with what Dom's talking about here. Know the distance to the tree line. Know the distance to the set structure or house. It's most likely the enemy is going to use for a base of fire. Logical position may overwatch your position. Know their ranges and of course be ready to control them. Ideally, you may want to lure the idiots into a location you've already gained control and have superior fire over. but you'll give them a comfortable opportunity to fix their shooters, their placement shooters, in position and you'll neutralize them in a number of different ways. By the way, mean things include fragmentation devices that are already pre-placed, other types of booby trap technologies because, well, after all, it's just a given they're going to be boom over there. Then they're based on fire long range riflemen are now hobbling around with leaky parts and that's the most important thing. Lots of leaky parts for those guys went first, if at all possible. so range is the kids key here but understanding environment go ahead down please and again range in all of us we've got a hundred or a thousand yards but let's go back to a hundred for a moment here because you know what if we're talking about bringing up or training a shooter we're not going to put him behind that fifty even after he's had a well he might have shot that twenty two for a day or so i mean this is the crash course right it may come to that but this is why we prepare But now, you know, let's qualify something here because hardly anybody out there, hardly anybody out there reloads their own .22. Factories do. It's the nature of the beast. So, you know, if you go out and buy a brand new .22, thousand rounds, don't buy five bricks of anything. There are 20 if you have to go that small. And buy three or four different flavors, different manufacturers. And now take that . . . we've talked about, you know, breaking a gun in. But you want to find the . . . the 22 that your gun likes to gobble down and shoot small groups with. Most long guns are going to cycle. If their magazine said they might be a little more touchy, this is why it might not feed something. We've talked about that in the 1911. Find something that shoots the smallest group. Now let's talk about that smallest group. I'm going to invoke that name again from David Tubb. Because you know what? David Tubb, and this is key to windage here and learning to shoot small groups. David Pubb says when he goes out and shoots, he measures his group for height from the shortest for height. You know what I mean, you guys, for height. And then he measures his group. Now, with that in mind, and let's just say facetiously he was shooting a .22. Just imagine he was shooting a .22. And he hasn't shot the gun a lot yet, but you know what, he's found the favor of shooting the gun for a little while, and the gun 100 yards. You know what, in the wind that group is like an inch and a half wide. 3 quarters of an inch tall, so a palm molt them on almost. That's how he judged, because, you know, probably at 100 yards isn't going to affect the up and down. Your elevation too much, but it will affect the width of your... So now bear that in mind, and as mentioned earlier, you bring the gun to elevation at 100 or... You know what, you guys, let's keep it simple here. Because you know what? If I pick up this .22 here that's sitting, the varmint gun that's sitting right here by the window, and I bring it to what used to be the cat bowl, it's 30 yards. Or rather, I'm sorry, that's 10 yards. That's 30 feet. And I've got a zero for that. I can't believe it. There's a zero. 30 feet. On the path here, just around the crook of the foot, I've seen him once or twice, and once he even came confidently trotting around there. Well, You guys, that's 40 yards. 40 yards. And if I try to shoot that fox with that zero, that 10, that 30 foot zero, that 10 yard zero, aim right between his eyes, I might be lucky to hit him in the foot. Oh, I might hit him at the bottom of the breast, certain exactly how far that drops from there to there. But I've got the zero move that notch up. I've got the zero for that. And that's pretty much anywhere between there because of the sight lines here. If you've ever been here, you know what I'm talking about. Beyond that, I'm going to lift up a bigger gun to shoot that coyote. Now, particular coyotes, because at 100 yards, you're pounding enough energy into that coyote. At 100 yards, zero here, because I know that there's another gun. If I pick, you know, peanuts at 100 yards, and that'll knock down that coyote. And if the fox stands still for that blink of an eye, he won't see anything else. But again, that's an example of the right tool for the right job. And at 22, you guys, you know, learning that drop of that 22 over 100 yards, at 10 yards to 100 yards, is very much akin to learning the drop 50 from 100 to 1000 yards. Consider this, that we don't expect the women to be up front, but if we can get you to sit down with a rifle and line up those sights at maximum range, you can provide base of fire, in fact critical base of fire, and help to attract the aggressor to reduce the overall threat to your fighting force. That means every mother's uncle that can put a weapon to their shoulder at extreme range, or longest range possible, I don't care what weapon it is. is going to contribute more significantly to the battlefield than all the rattle battle close range I don't know 15 legs in 15 minutes and I didn't hit you get the drift accuracy that one trigger pull does the job and you know for some people thinking well there's only five of us in the family six of us in the group or whatever Well, then you all first should be concentrating on accuracy. So this applies to every rifle man and every rifle woman out there who's going to be putting a firearm to their shoulder. You may vary the distance depending upon the ability of the firearm, but the heaviest, and I must stress this again, remember the basic rule of combat, the heaviest weapons are always manned first. If Don is injured or Don, something happened to Don. Or Don just isn't there, but that 50 is in a 16-wheeler. It could not fix, but it is a position where it can be shouldered. That weapon is manned first. Shoot it. And you can be able to run with it. So you better use it or lose it. That's what we say. Use it or lose it. If you come up against aggressive force, we are not, this is not the world of the Branch Davidians anymore. Okay, that's over. If you are engaged, you use everything you've got, don't let any of them get away. If they get up to run, plug them. If they try to move, plug them. If they think they're going to talk, plug them. Why? If they want to talk, even though they tried to butcher you for the last hour, it's because they're out of ammo and they're trying to figure out how to get away so they can come back with more ammo and kill you. You see how that works? Wipe them out. Policy. Wipe them out. Let none of them escape. And that means that even those long shots Hey, you know aim for the hips when they're running away guys that way they're kind of flopping around the other one gets to see something go through a chunk of the body like that They're flopping around the armor didn't do a whole lot of good in You can follow up on the rest or probably a little faster and a lot scared her now too But none of them get away and so to do that they expect remember Banditos Hey, the Banditos will come back whenever they think they can be fly if you give them the chance So the best is not to let the bend. Yeah Go ahead, please, I'm sorry. There's another thing to be said about long distance. This one up here again, you guys. You know, a lot of people, they say they never saw the bit them until. And then maybe they just saw the fin or a flash in the water as it bit them and swam up. From personal account, I can tell you I've been in the water with sharks. You know, if you're looking right at them when they swim up from out of the other side of visibility, you're looking right there and just like a dot. and then it becomes a triangle because they're kind of triangle shaped to the front and then you see the side fins and the top fins. It comes in and sees you and sees that you see it, generally swims around you and swims away. Now you might wonder why I'm talking about that, but you know, it's best to see your opponent first because if you see your opponent first, you know where he is. That's a gimme, let's fill in all the blanks here. You know where he is. From knowing where he is, listen, both the uncertainty principle here, from knowing where he is, you observe his motions, and by his motions, you can deduce which direction he is going, can't you? Now, if you can gauge right down to where he is, the range and tell for a mile, and then figure it out on paper, or some people are good, they just do numbers in their heads. A lot of times I need paper for big, big numbers and quickly. Calculators are good, but don't count on them much like the calculator for your gun. Don't count on it You want to use that as a building bridge take all of that information that it shows you every time it shows you something and put it in your brain Don't you you don't want to have to depend on a gun calculator? But if you know where they are you know the direction they are going and From space to space you can calculate how fast now once you do that Well if they're not going in your direction, or if they're going 90 degrees across your front or if they are moving directly towards you, you can say, kind of, well, Frank, they'll be here in seven minutes, or, well, at that rate, we will never be able to intercept them. Or anything in between. Anything in between. Now, knowing where your enemy is and knowing where he is going is a real good thing. One has to admit to that. And, you know, we're talking about basics here, and I'm trying to fill in some blanks. So, you know, I know that there are people saying right now, well, Don, I know this. And I was taught. that, but we're trying to teach a whole lot of people here right now. If you can tell which way they're going, you can be in another place like where they aren't yet, you get my drift, you can be where they are not yet, where they haven't arrived. So when you're there first, I don't even remember that old southern gentleman, the general's name, who said it's best to get there. And sometimes if you get there first, you don't even have to have the most. But think about this, you guys. When it comes to ambush, you don't want to really do something. This is Don's kind of rule here and there are other formulas for it. But if that voice is as big as you, if you know the area, you can master that moment. You really have to know the area and have a good one-on-one. One-on-one is really good in an ambush because generally all of your boys. I want to go home at the end and still be there. And you know what, how does that go? We shall prevail. If they are coming this way and we know when we are going to get there or if they are moving in a completely different direction and we know that we cannot intercept that, whatever it is, be it a single man or a column, it can be anything. It can be ten men, it can be a division. Another example, in Europe a lot of people buy a long gun, they might spend four or five hundred dollars for their long gun but they might spend two thousand dollars or four thousand dollars for their long gun. That might seem way upside down. down here you'll spend $7,000 for a .308 Winchester or something and put a $200 or $300, $400. When you get up into $400, now you're starting to talk with the gold ring. It's not Nikon, it's the other one, I can't remember it. Now you're getting into something good upside down to a lot of Europeans because they want to look farther. They will pay more for the fix on the gun many times than they will for the gun. I'm not talking about just going out to, well they used to be able to fix it in England. You know a little side bar there. I don't want to have to linger on that, but that's an example You know I the 22 that explained earlier in the hour You know that 10-yard shot or that 40-yard shot, and I can defend my What would be vermin do that in England anymore? We've offered that up many times as example haven't we mark over and over you know in fact play the sharp knife in England now You know mark I have to say we're coming into last quarter of the hour here, and I'm going to run along the same thought line, but changed gears ever so slightly because you know what? And again, I walked into the tobacco shop here today and I go last me like almost 14 days. So I think I'm doing pretty good as far as being slim on it. But you know, there weren't any men in there today. And usually I go in there and I'll talk to you know, I chew on everybody's here every place I go. But there was just the two girls behind the counter. And she brought up the tobacco and they're getting ready to overturn it. And I'm not exactly sure which one but that earned said, Oh, we don't have to shoot them for that. And she looked, she did not blink an eye Mark. She looked at me and said, you're right, we'll shoot them for something else. And this mixes right in with teaching. I asked, do you own a gun? Yes. And I looked at the other girl behind the other counter, do you own a gun? Yeah, but my father has it right now. Something about, well, if it doesn't jump to your hand, you know. Talked about, you know, to stay long with them. That's why I came in late, Mark. I told him, well, you know, last year we got it said, well, Americans have the right terms, but, you know, did the deal with the United Nations to make small arms, you know, side arms and long guns illegal in America. She could not do it internally, so she went externally and you know, now we are exposed, the external nodding and agreeing and it's another reason to, and this is from women, you guys. They've heard me go in there before, I've heard me before, maybe they were just, maybe they were just stringing me along, but you didn't blink an eye. The other one, well, we've got guns. So you guys, this is more and more, eh? Common thought, if we're not going to shoot them for this, we're going to shoot them for that. We came up with, not all my guns are registered, but you know what I said to her, well, now they know about every gun in my house, just come and take them. That's true, Mark. I had a number of cons a while back, and I sold everyone a move into this, that, and every gun they know about. You know about it, what you're going to do about it. That's kind of the attitude. And more Americans need to, you know, if I could take a little part of my brain out and put it in your brain, It would rest my thought. I might even be able to help you improve you a little bit. I can't do that though. And I know I'm being a little facetious and I'm not trying to talk down to you. Don't get me wrong. But every American needs to think that way. What I've got is mine. And just you try to come and take it. Let alone invoke a bunch of your aid. You know, I yield the floor to you sir. We may have a caller. I think I heard a beep. Who do we have? Now, tying this in guys, and Don, you remember we had a number of different matches you've been to, but Pennsylvania was a unique one because you actually got a chance to shoot right off the roof of the van, didn't you? Oh yeah, that was slight unto itself. Again, climbing up to the shooting position and I'll never hit nothing up there from there. And when I put on a different scope, you know, it's a matter of adapting. That time the range spoke the way to the point because 50 caliber people came in, they spaced them low to hit the target to see the target from the ground. and there wasn't a bench. We just moved the van into that area and shot from there. But again, that's an example of adapt, improvise, adapt and overcome, isn't it? You know, you went to the, you showed up, you might as well become part of the contest. Now, with that in mind, Mark, another thing from that particular weekend. Did you know the guy that was, I think he was supposed to shoot right next to me, he had a M82, one of Ronnie's fine guns, that semi-auto 10 round magazine fed. caliber. He had one of those. And you know, we got there late Friday. Then we, uh, third A. And it looked like it was going to rain. And, well, it did rain. But you know what? Even when it was looking like rain, Mark, he didn't get his gun out. Didn't shoot all of Saturday. In fact, you guys, we shot to the point to where many people could not see their target. It was raining so hard. Breathed on it. You know, we talk about breathing as a discipline in particular, you know, just for moving things, lifting, breathing as a discipline. and breathing is a discipline and shooting too. But you know what, even where your breath is a discipline in the winter time in particular? One of the reasons for carrying a scarf, a lot of people ask why I use scarves. And of course I don't like the idea of knotting anything around me, but for regular ties for that reason, for the most part, I mean it's a mix. But scarf is for that particular purpose because, well two reasons. Number one, I don't want the mist falling on my weapon system or my weapon sites. Two, If I'm breathing, not even heavy, but if I'm breathing in cold weather operations, that thermal exposure, that little puff which becomes a white mist visible under certain light more so than others, and while you may not see me, what difference would it make if I can identify that little puff of mist glinting in the morning of the sunset? And somebody knows where to put the next bullet. You get my drift? So this is part of both camouflage and concealment, things that people do not think about, and also control and physical security and operations of your arm, which is why it can be any number of techniques that are used, but a scarf is adjustable. uh... you can get it in practical colors is what the military ones o t green you get a meeting camouflage they would have put your boat on that when you can make it up on a cloth it doesn't have to be wall i just like the idea of another cold weather item i'm carrying a particular way to move more than one purpose but uh... even if it's nothing more than a camouflage like bandana that of course wobbly floppy doesn't have a specific form with a camouflage pattern combined with the being frumpy around the base of the face It's going to help to conceal you, but it's going to eliminate that moisture factor, which could do exactly what you described, Don. You can mist equipment up. You can fog up material. Remember, you've got night vision too, not just during the day with conventional optics. What about that night vision piece? We've talked about it so many times. Go ahead, please. Well, again, it applies with night vision too, you guys. You bring the device up, it'd be it handheld or whatnot. If you're just standing there breathing soft, that hot air tends to... If you've got a monocular... from it. It doesn't have to be real cold. As an example, moments ago it could just be the right humidity conditions. All it takes is that the humidity is right and everything in the air is just starting to lay on the lens and even your breath, what the moisture in your breath lays on the lens. You know, that's what rags are for and you've got the photographic of the lens wipes and what not. If the lens is wet, I wouldn't feel too bad about, well, just putting a lens wipe on it, twisting it in a circle. You guys, do not rub a lens back and forth up and down. On the lens and turn it, always turn it clockwise or always, don't turn it back and forth because what happens when you climb or even something solid on there, when you turn it back and forth, it changes position under the rag. It rolls around and it bites in a different way and in damage now you've doubled or tripled up or you've widened the damage. If you have to in a situation you guys, you want to be able to see your opponent. We've already touched on that, haven't we? So in the rain or in heavy mist like that, if you have to wipe down the lens, don't hesitate because you know what? His lens might grate. You know what I mean? And he's looking as hard as he can for you. But you've already seen him or you know where he used to be before you got, before you cleared the lens, right? So that's another, you know, while we're on that here, let's go in a completely different direction here because you know what? If you got that full gas mask or if you've even got the little two-pond You know, one port for each eye and you look out a little window for each eye and well, you might simulate at the end of the day, you know, running down all of the chemicals off of you before you get out of your chem suit or whatnot or even if you've just been in an area and now you wash your gas masks. Don't wash those lenses and now I know that there are sacrosanal of this and that but if you're down to the lenses or even if you're washing and rinsing off your sacrificial covers, don't wash them in circles. Don't wash them, you know what you guys, much like you find that you wash that windshield or your lenses to light the horizon. Let's qualify before we go any further real quick. Guys, anything that you're using in the way of optics, you have a patch kit for. Actually, there's a cleaning kit. In most cases, they actually send the right material that's supposed to be used with those lenses. Keep it with the equipment. You're going to be in the field. You're going to need it. And spend the money on optics maintenance. If you're talking about being a precision shooter in a combat situation, what you have is all that you have. There's no Kmart, no Wally World, nobody down the street until you pick it off the other guy's corpse, you're not going to have a replacement unless you were smart and bought backups for down the road like we've talked about. Buy a bunch of cheapies but have a whole pile of them. But even then, why are you wasting equipment when proper maintenance will get the job done? And that's what you're talking about, Don. No proper maintenance. But you know, inclement weather, you know, we've talked about, you know, you've seen it in the films about World War II or even World War I where the, and then all of a sudden the camera pans and machine gun nests. And, or his best, out of the line you're standing, that's a matter of persping. And the rain or inclement weather, you know, I spoke on, we worked in the field here one day, the armolite, the AR-550, and it looked like a great day when we got there and got the gun and somebody else did a cigarette. By now it's snowing. And it's not a real heavy snow, but you know, Smoke Deerett and we're commenting, the guy walked down there and got three different targets. Everybody shot at a different target. 100 yards. Kim walked out 100 yards there and shooting because he went and put the toe, add that to it. We went back to shooting, but you know what? Not a whole lot, not a heavy snow, not something that well in, you know, in 15 minutes you'd have to turn on the windshield wipers even. That snow laying up there on top of the boat when it hit the boat, and there in that cool wind, and you know, obviously it was cold. in that matter of maybe seven minutes into the bolt. And it was hard as guns to get that bolt open, Mark. No unintended. A gun rag can be a real friendly thing. An oil rag can be a real friendly thing, you guys. Even in the desert, driest, driest conditions. If you're protecting the workings of your gun with unrags thrown off, sitting there at station, walking by, kicking up somebody, walking by upwinds in your gun, does it? So, you know, gun rags can be a real good thing. And you know, we're running right up to the of the hour and more things I could say about windage and elevation. I want to run back that thought on David Tubman. You know, even at 100 yards or 1,000 yards, you're 22 or you're 50. By the time you're shooting that 5 or 10 shot group, your gun will shoot. What you want to do now is make the impact, you know, your tell as wide as the height and now you're proving to yourself that you have mastered the wind. Okay? I can't prove it to you. You know, you can only prove it to yourself, can't you Mark? And another thing, one thing to consider here guys, you can develop these skills with each of the rifles we're talking about. I wanted to qualify with a 50 because a lot of people have not had time on the half-inch gun. Don has, a lot of other people that are in the 50 caliber shooters association have. It's why we did the night vision video and why I asked him to really get into that as quick as we could because saving time saving your life's time somebody else's game the experience get it down where you can find out more through practical application now when you get out there you know what to look for you understand the problems and you can adapt accordingly to you know to the needs in the environment another thing before I go though Don you have one piece of night vision left or is that gone? Oh no I still got that I bring that up and let's go through that real quick before we lose the hour here you guys that night leopard the team pieces that I we turned out here over the... I don't know, one was hidden in the middle room under a sheet or under a... But I have one left, you guys, it's a silver body. Same deal, $225 will put it right in your mailbox. The manufacturer... I don't even remember that. I think the manufacturer wanted $249 or something like that for it. And then shipping. Premium piece for the manufacturer, largest Russian first generation tube, combined with a very... Even the pieces as big as small cameras. It'll outperform them. But if you want to talk to me about it, you guys, I'll be here for a few minutes after the hour, then I'll be back in a week. I'll be back for certain. But you can reach me at 231-8. Again, 231. Great. Guys, one more piece. It's the last one to move. I want to see it out of here. Don has taken, put the effort and resources forward. There's a lot of things that he needs to take care of. Those resources are tied up into something that you can use that a lot of people have asked about. So let's take care of that. Your number one more time, Don. 31-796-9. Very good. 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