Live 365. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent, although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number and you've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm. and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children will be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedom for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise. Take a stand. Defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land. Preserve our great Republic and each God given right. And pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke he'd vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each god-given rite, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free? Let's go to the sound of the drums and the small arms fire. A little history on that in a minute. It is, of course, well, it's Friday. Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. This is the afternoon intelligence report. I'm Mark Cornke, one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines in occupied territories, southeast, west, north. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to us on LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com, where on AM and FM micro stations, CB Bay stations, and ultra-net technologies both east and west of Mississippi, along with southern and central Alaska. We're on the Hallmark Network on the eastern seaboard from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida. From the bottom of Florida, across the arc of the Gulf of Mexico, headed towards Louisiana, Texas, Oklahoma. Ooh, a big chunk of Iowa slash Iowa and Nebraska. And the third of Wyoming. Then back over across Mississippi, too. Ooh, the Golden Spry project, that's right. Across the whole of the Smokies, the Blue Ridge. Well, tell you what, this weekend you got a break. There will not be a general meeting there will not be a general meeting at the restaurant so that's just a warning a little late on that and get it to a couple days ago but uh... there will be a special meeting this is for only those people who were designated and already agreed to be administration for the meeting this weekend so only administration at the minimal skeleton crew that will be at the restaurant uh... and there is a reason they're still needs to be taken care of equipment needs to be transferred Remember guys, radio runs 24-7 and the alternate hallmarks and all the others are the same way. Our internet system, our internet replacement system, it's not really the internet because it works very differently, more like the way the world used to work and should. Everybody is cooperating. So we're doing our part, you've got to do yours by helping to support them whenever possible. It is. By the way, it went from gray and looked like we were going to be more rainy today to fractured We have some clouds. We have blue sky here and there. Kind of like Tiger Stripe right now. It's random. But there is some blue out there. You can see it. A little clearer, a little lighter right now. High winds though are right out of the west here in the southern part of the state. We probably got something coming this way for the weekend. It's not going to be clear, but it's going to be probably decent weather. It's cooled down quite a bit. We have a nice cool front coming in so it's not overly warm for the weekend. We're going to get out there and do some water skiing or if we get out there and swim. This is one of your big last chances before the next wave with school. There are a lot of different rallies for the up and coming school year around the southeastern Michigan area, etc. There is a bunch of stuff happening. It is going to probably be a long weekend for a lot of people because there is a lot of work that is going to be taking place. People are participating in a number of different follow-up exercises. So you can either complete projects at different sites and make it a holiday in the process. A lot of our camps here in Michigan, or colonial marine camps for instance, are near existing lakes and other places where people can relax. So it's pretty cool. They can go to the site, bring the family along and everybody can go have some fun. And in the process when they're done, get on with other business. So it's going to be busy. Be careful on the road. People are thinking about barbecue. It's only, oh well, you guys took a few hours. Way out there on the left coast, it's 2.10. Man, you're probably still got to work. Unless you're getting that four day weekend in legitimately where you didn't call in sick, but instead you called in, oh, signed up for a vacation day. There we go. That'd be the way to do it, sign up for a vacation day. Cool. So, with the scenario played out the way it is, and it is Friday, of course we do have Quartermaster Friday coming up this evening, BK and myself will be there, but that's going to be the theme to a degree because a lot of people that have been writing are either organizing new units or they are asking questions because of what they're doing with the units they've already organized but are fairly new. We've got a lot of new people coming up and online, waves, fun waves. And the problem with that is that most of the time organizations fail to have some form of institutional mechanism in place for ongoing education. Now, the world has changed a little bit. Now, granted we've always had manuals, and the manuals still are no batteries, no electronics, everything plugs in, use the mind, and the guy should be creative enough to understand the words, put them in his brain, and they reappear a miracle. They reappear. Yes, they do. In fact, they re-f*** critical times. Well, what's interesting about this is that today with the internet technology and especially with video game technology going where it did, this promoted video for other purposes. The video gaming technology we have allowed for everybody to have their own micro television production studio in their computer. And what they have then turned around and done is taken advantage of that and used it for any number of different subjects. Now, there can be frivolous stuff. It can be useless stuff. You like pornography. It can be anything you imagine. But also educational, and most critically educational. When we put an instruction video up somewhere, the one nice thing is when I give a particular format of instruction or a recommendation, The nice thing is if you plug it in 15 minutes later, 2 hours later, 2 weeks later, or even a year later, it's still the same program. So you're going to be able to watch it, get what you need out of it, and also bring other people back and go, ooh, ooh, you've got to see this. I need to have you watch this. Now hopefully that's what you're doing with the training, militia training videos. That's why we did it. We did them so that you would have a stock of information. I did the NBC videos. I did three versions. And I thought, you know, rather than just posting one because I wanted little variations on the theme, I put all three up there. And the reason I put all three up there, and Ed posted them, is because the need was to offer a potpourri, a moral bouquet. Some people like certain pieces of instruction, some may like others. So that was a little bit of an experiment there to offer alternatives, still with the same basic information. uh... with some additions or subtractions as purely matter how do you want to focus and what you have resources for that's one of the considerations when it comes to operations especially the quarter master looking at your your own quarter master right off the bat uh... you've only got so much available material you've only got so much time to get everything done what do you need to do to you know teach the people get up speed for instance on nuclear biological chemical defense technology that's really what this is all about that's what we're talking about with the nbc course Now, equipping from the New World Order, the other videos there on, for instance, food preparation, food storage, again, same purpose. Mark doesn't have to speak 15 million times. The recording speaks 15 million times, and you'll hear a consistent class first time every time. The military did this and started doing this first years ago. Colleges and places and college campuses had the same arrangement set up for quite some time and have been using this with multiple television screens for many, many years. Everybody is very familiar with that. So it's not like this is a new thought, but now you don't have to go to the classroom to get it done. So much so that you know what's interesting, most colleges and universities have actually modified and in fact have, oh that's right, online curriculum. So they've taken it the next step already. We're right there and have been doing this with VHS, with beta, the first CDs when they came out. Remember, we didn't have DVDs, so we had not much recording time and had to format things accordingly. And then DVDs, of course, were available. We had real video. And the rest is history. These are still excellent tools. All that I've mentioned, if you're using them, take advantage of them. Remember that, by the way, there is a fast had going on right now I found out a little bit more about what's really but the kind of interesting is kind of like with people collecting photograph records when CDs came out there's a lot of young people that are collecting VHS tapes and are resurrecting the VHS machines and hanging onto them because it's their cool way of having their own system that they can put off to the side and operate simply and they can collect a lot of stuff cheap and have their own little library slash treasure trove. So, the cool thing is, in a way, VHS is being saved by the next generation right now, guys, not by the older generation, you know, shall we say, the people that grew up with this stuff, but rather other people who are now realizing, hey, this is kind of neat, I can get a bunch of this stuff for cheap, I don't have to spend my life's fortune, what little it is if you're a high school or a junior high school student. And you've got a whole bunch of cool things to watch, most of which of course is not comparably done today in videos. So hey, there's all kinds of neat stuff that is happening. In this format, this means that a lot of VHS stuff that you have, you consult a battlefield with many, many different tools to help your side. And gee, VHS tapes are cheap, master tapes are cheap, we've got lots of machines. And every once in a while we kind of just drop these out and students are picking them up. Young students, new students are picking them up and are learning very quickly about the whole idea of the new world order. At least stuff their teacher doesn't talk about or if he does or she does they try to deflect it for the sake of the regime. So anyway, we do have a lot of good things happening there but VHS is a tool that can still be used on top of all the others. Now, equipping. I had a lot of requests here. In fact, I've got BD in Atlanta, and also to KL. Hold on a second, I'll make sure I get this right. In Virginia, Pelton for pal. I don't know how to pronounce it because it's the way it's spelled. But anyway, Pelton, Purdue, I don't know who you are. A couple of questions there about gear and equipment. Now, as far as where do we go? Well, you know, there's a lot of sources around the country. And while everybody screams about MOLLE gear, I will repeat again, the ALIS gear works. It worked just fine. It's worked for 30 plus years. There are still a lot of troops who are going to be carrying it, not necessarily US troops, because MOLLE is being pushed for the moment. That just means it will be changed. There are already systems replacing MOLLE, so gee, what a surprise. But anyway, the Mole or Molly, you know, tomato tomato, is out there in forest in its first generation, second and even third generation right now so you can go that direction. But if you have to outfit a whole bunch of troops and you're looking for good gear, remember the Molly equipment will integrate with the Alice gear. Why not? All it has to do is slip over that pistol belt and lock into place, guys. Doesn't it already do that? Did I miss something? Is there something that I don't understand? So the cool thing about this is you've already got a system that easily can be integrated into what we're interested in doing, which is outfitting a whole bunch of troops. And you can take advantage of the different sales on bits, pieces, and parts and assemblies as they come out and mix and match to engineer your own troops' equipment. Right now, US I-Cork canteen covers are dirt cheap and nylon. Standard, US issue LC1OD green. Congratulations. pistol belts, same way. H suspenders or Y suspenders? Why suspenders mostly? Vietnam H suspenders are harder to get now than they were say 10 years ago. I still recommend the Allis gear because it is well built. You paid for it. Your tax dollars paid for it. I'm not worried about trying to make somebody feel good about me being chic so much as I want to make sure I've got enough equipment out there to get all the troops in the field. The web gear doesn't pull the trigger. Okay, and the web gear can still be made more uncomfortable enough and it's already lightweight enough that it's in the it's more It's in the serviceable serviceable range, you know for sure. Okay now I've already Qualified that so here's the thing main military comm main military comm main military comm they got a couple things here the couple cool Mechanisms that you can take advantage of and let's just do it this way if you go to main military and then go over to LTR specials LTR specials. Did you find it? Go to mainmilitary.com and then go to LTR specials. I'm just going to scroll down this. Now real quick, and of course we've had these heaters, I'm going to mention a couple things. Let's say that I was looking at this list. What would I buy right now for the troops? Well, of course now there are some here 15 mags, but I'm gonna scroll from top to bottom Separate from the NBC gear for the moment. I'm just looking at trying to put some kit together for the troops Well, let's see right off the bat German folding stole with fuel pack nine dollars five of them for nine dollars. That's with the fuel and everything That's a good price in addition to that. Let's say I need mag pouches AK-47 mag pouch with adapters five pack fifteen dollars There you go now next row if you have HK 91 G3 HK91 mags with pouch. Five pack, $25. Hell, you get more mags with the pouch. Now we're going to scroll down. Each row's got something in it, but let's go to the top one. Nothing that's critical. The second row, the stoves on the far right side. The third is the AK mag pouches. You may need those if you have the AK. The G3 mags with pouch, again, 5 double mag pouches with 2 mags each, $25. Really you can't go wrong on that. And those will fit standard U.S. pistol belt by the way. Alice Pack, this is almost to the bottom of the line here on this page. Alice Pack, $5 for $150. There's your 5 backpacks for your 5 team members. Now, MOLLE grenade compass pouches, five pack for $15. $3 apiece can't beat them. By the way, Woodland Camouflage, will they work on the Alice gear? Yep, right away. Five pack, Air 15 M4, MOLLE double mag pouches used. Okay, five pack for $25. $5 apiece, not bad. And by the way, it's integrated with the MOLLE gear. Now, the base system for all of this, let's say that a head start up is on the bottom line. You need a pistol built. 5-Pack US GI Pistol Belts $35 Excellent price can't go wrong. 5-Pack US GI Pistol Belts $35. Oh but look right next to it. 5-Pack US GI Y Harness Nylon Used $12.50 A 5-Pack for $12.00 and what $2.00 and something a piece $2.25 Am I right on that? $2.25? Eh about close enough $2.50 whatever. uh... the point now to fifty hours right though slight marking head to go to fifty cents a go so anyway you're looking at five sets of suspenders five pistol belts then you're looking at whatever pouches you need depending upon and remember these parts of the views for other than what they're designated you've got a backpack right here okay alice pack with frame by the way now i sometimes in fact most the time i don't use the frame Though the frame is an excellent design, in many cases I'll separate the frame. I like to go soft pack on the Alice most of the time, but it will work either way. However, if you use the Alice pack with frame, chances are you won't be using a Fanny pack slash 3D pack slash butt pack, which is one of the reasons I do away with a frame and keep that for a cargo pack. I pack it up separate and I can use it as a mule for getting equipment to where it needs to be and I've got a convenient carrier. I get another set of shoulder straps which is not a big deal. Now, three, four of the grenade pouches depending on what you're doing or two of the grenade pouches depending on what you're doing. Three, four or five per person of the AR-15 mag pouches. Three, four of the HK-91 or again two of the AK-47 pouches. I need to find myself some canteens. Let's see what we've got in the way of camping and survival. I bet you if I go there I can find what I'm looking for. Maybe not. I know hydration. There we go. Hydration. I was right. Boy, I'll tell you, this guy is pretty predictable. They're over there at Maine Military. They've got everything you need. They've got canteen covers. They've got canteens. They've got a little bit of everything. You take a look and see what they've got. Mollie Canteen pouches used, put in excellent condition. They've got regular USLC, I'd recommend those with the regular pistol belt because they're tougher guys, they'll take a little more abuse. Your option, configure accordingly. But between what we just went through here, in a short list, you've got everything you need to put a trooper into the field with his basic gear. Now the little stoves I mentioned because you just can't beat the price for those little air stats so it's the way they're set up. Again, that's mainmilitary.com, mainmilitary.com, mainmilitary.com, M-A-I-N-E, mainmilitary.com. Now, if you go with the MOLLE gear, there's a lot of used MOLLE gear available, and there are also different assault vest systems that main military has too. We've used the assault vest. Everybody's pretty happy with those. They're lighter duty in some cases. You've got to pay attention to what model you're looking at. And what I would do with most even the MOLLE gear is re-stitch just to be safe or stitch even if it's brand new. Remember there are points where the gear is going to separate. It's just the nature of it. The MOLLE gear itself is very much a mimic of the old Rhodesian salt system. Most people may not remember that. We had a wave of that come through. I was buying the stuff. So you couldn't afford not to buy it. When the South African and Rhodesian gear came out, back in the 80s. It was available for 10 cents, 15 cents, and 35 cents an item for the pouch and the belts. I mean, it was tricky. It was goofy priced. Couldn't afford not to buy it. We started playing with it and everybody loved the gear. But the problem is it was, you know, because they were trying to, you know, save money and lighten up the combat load, the weight of the gear, like the Mali equipment, was designed, you know, was designed and lessened so that they could reduce calorie consumption and try to keep the trooper a little cooler. The problem is the stuff wore out faster. We got a whole bunch of it, trust me we did, I still got it stored in locations here around Michigan. I think I've got enough to probably put a couple hundred people into South African or Rhodesian web gear. right now. A knockoff of a lot of the British equipment but with the South African special designs that they came up with to meet their needs. That would be it because I don't think there is any more out there and if it is it's all collectors items and they want an arm and a leg for what originally we paid. The most expensive item was like a $1.25. The pouches were $0.10, $0.15, $0.35. The mag pouches for the Goliel knockoffs and .308 that the South Africans did and for the FN FAL. They also used the 7.62x39 rifles and they used ARs, you know, that may or knockoffs, you know, variations. Several different weapons were used in service. And the Webgear matched. So what was cool is there were a lot of neat solutions for problems that we had to deal with. And for putting militia in the field in the 80s, it was an excellent solution, price-wise. Everybody had a chance to experience it way long before, you know what MOLLEGEAR is? That's basically how it was set up. And they did come up with VESS. They had both the belt system, kind of like the Type 50. uh... and they had a best so that was very much the molly concept which is where i really think they got the molly concept from they just don't want knowledge because there's only things to come and go but it's uh... it's a modular system at work anyway to what do we have a caller well we've got we got a caller we got down there all the time you should have been hard to interrupt the man yet we had idle one part of the i would have been here for a third so i was quiet Interestingly enough, especially something that we were talking about before. You guys came up with a solution on this, Don. Everybody has been wondering about, well, what do we carry? 50 caliber ammo in. So what works for carrying 50 caliber ammo if I'm putting this kit together? Oh, look at those 20 round mags for M16s, you guys. And you know what? You can stand, I think it's like, it might be eight, it might be 10. I'd have to go back and count. There's one of them right up there on this shelf. But I'd have to go back and count. What you do is, you put 10 50 cal straight up, you know, primer down in the pouch. And then you put about straight down primer up in the pouch and it packs in there real well and it kind of keeps them from taking, you know, we've talked about how to move 50 caliber, very, you know, match grade 50 caliber in the field and not beat it up. Well, that's not a too bad a way. In particular, if you do this like day to day, you know like we're going to need about twenty rounds today for what we're and we've got a can over here but everything in the can is you know foam protected and that doesn't have to be your uh... although you could build up and and then run out and index and do everything you can to a united states or but you know for years and years you guys that armor piercing round was uh... legendary the most accurate fifty caliber round until uh... the civilian manufacturers started stepping up Even unto today that that armor piercing round isn't bad and if you were to run it out like a blueprinted like you're trying to build a match grade you know shoot three inch groups at a thousand yards you're gonna break you know so you might want to oh let me see you'd have about 18 or 20 at least in a in a 20 round m16 magazine pouch and you might have a pouch full of armor piercing and you might have a pouch full of a max and you know those a max that's gonna accurate round at a good long range. You might use that for what one would call pinpointing a target, you know. And if you have to go something light armor, then you reach into a different pouch and draw out an armor piercing. And you know, well, it's going to be better than that very production or that Israeli military piercing because you built it yourself and you built it to exacting tolerances, didn't you? You built it with a fire-formed case. and you built it with a measured amount that your gun and that bullet likes because you've already kind of sat back and figured that one out in the easy times, haven't you? But there's just one way to carry 50 caliber rounds, you guys. Look around. It has that quick release plastic pinch release. And you can always do something like if you empty half of that mag for something to keep from bouncing off each other and clanging and making noise or in goes part of it. whole handkerchief or something, anything that might be used to fill the gap in that to keep, again, bullets big bouncing around and big bullets from making noise and big bullets from bouncing around and losing their accuracy. So, you know, there's different ways to do it, but that's one that comes in handy and uses a existing vehicle mark. And the reason I bring that up is because our theme has been 50 caliber all this week too, and we didn't mention that because if we're putting gear together, One of the things to think about is a man can only carry so many pounds. You had your ultra light poncho and your ultra light sleeping bag and your ultra light backpack and your ultra light shovel and your ultra light shovel cover and those ultra light mags and the ultra light mag pouches and the ultra light side arms. So light you carry two of them. Yeah and by the time you're done you're not very light. You're not very light. So, one of the things to think about is that rifleman's job, especially your 50, is just like thinking about. Think about your 50 caliber gunner, your placement sniper, you know, slash sniper marksman, whatever title you come up with for him, but whoever your marksman is, those individuals are supported systems. The .50 caliber rifle, if it's in that rifle marksman's category, though all of you will be riflemen by the way, that rifle needs to be supported by the whole team. In other words, as long as he can keep pumping away with that .50 and he can put rounds downrange at 700, 800, 1000, 1200, 1400, 1600 yards. If he can start making the enemy question and take cover before they get anywhere near normal engagement range. Then, what's happening is they're burning calories that you're not. And in the dance of swords that we're talking about, you have to go back and forth. You're constantly trying to outrun and outmaneuver and simply outpace your aggressor. Just like when you start sparring in the beginning where you're kind of rounding each other. You're eyeing each other up. You're watching motion. You're paying attention to body language. Well, the same is true in this case, but what happens in the initial phase is you force the aggressor to run his calories sooner, to run his adrenaline sooner. And that's a plus for you. If you can rest your people, if you can keep your people at ease while the other side is burning up all of that energy, and then they have to get within engagement range, granted, oh, I know all about indirect fire weapons, both sides have them. So you don't have to tell me about that, but the point is that no matter how we look at it, in an engagement with infantry, it is a dance of swords. It's a process of moving around each other, trying to get the other guy to stumble, get the other guy to blink, the other guy to make a mistake. Well, we need that... I'm sorry to interrupt, but as you pointed out a number of times, and in this instance, as an example, you know, even trained fighters, prize fighters, ballteens, the co-study films, And then everything goes, you know, the bell rings, all of those planes. See, the reason that fighter doesn't rush in there and work on everything that he's seen in the earlier films is he's going to look at this guy today and figure out what kind of game he brought today. And now you might wonder why Don's saying that, but Mark, you pointed out many times that, well, you take an opt-for group and you move it across the land here and they're going to come across Ralph and Frank and charge someplace and they're just going to harass the the dung out of them. And then they move into another area and find a mark and charge and they just wallop them straight up front. But they got a little bit of that over here gorilla kind of sideways stuff going on for the distraction. But again, every day, think about this you guys, because if you haven't, how many different games have you thought to bring to the table? Exactly. And the one thing about that 50 gunner is that the dimension and the dynamics of that 50 caliber rifleman changed completely your ability to reach the enemy. Wouldn't you like to continue to do that? Now, if we're going to, we need that mag pouch configuration carried by every man in the team that supports that rifle. Just as if we also have a bada bada bum bada bada bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bada bum bad a squad automatic weapon be it a drum fed RPK or if it's a belt fed something you captured like a saw, a mag 58 maybe you guys have some brownings maybe you guys have an old hog, an M60 that came back from Vietnam whatever it is that you're using that's part of the order of battle that one chugging away combined with that 50 oh that's a pair of teeth Because each weapon can perform a certain mission. One can fix and then move a target. Consider this. A .50 caliber rifleman working with an M60 or a MAG-58 gunner. And you have a target or a series of targets and the gunner literally walks them into the .50 caliber's kill zone. You see how that works? In other words, progressive chain fire, bum bum, never, not just a long, don't ever, I don't ever want to hear about people wondering why they got a melted bolt face. This is what's going to happen, it gets overheated, it'll still melt, but it's actually, what is it, it's peening. And it breaks down and you lock up the gun. It's three to five round bursts, three to five round bursts, three to five round bursts, oops, something a little bigger, okay, we'll go 10 on that one, bum bum bum bum bum bum bum, stop. Now the point is that that gun can walk and move somebody to try and protect themselves, to take cover. And that .50 caliber rifleman can already be in place and with, think about interlocking lanes of fire, that when they move to where they think they're under cover, they literally have lined themselves up for a series of shots. That's how it could be 90 degrees apart. Yes, exactly. And by the way, on number four on my mark, number four on my mark, headset reo's, simple handheld walkie talkies, whatever you have that you can access, that you can make work. Guys, you work with what you've got until you can get better or you can upgrade accordingly as you're able to. You may not be able to upgrade. You may have to simply use timing. You will listen to the gunner. Let me give you a little trick here. That guy on that M60. Now, up until that point you heard a three round, five round, three round, five round. In fact, you can do a sequence. Three round, five round. Three round, five round, five round, and then a ten round burst. A long burst. That long burst, it's like Morse code. That's letting Don know, Don, they're in place. One, two, three. One, two, three, four, five. One, two, three. One, two, three, four, five. What did it take for me to walk them over there? Now that's just to let Don know that they're headed that way. In other words, I'm getting the job done. You can also change the pattern so that if for instance without calling Dom by radio because I don't have a radio, if Dom continues to hear 1-2-3, 1-2-3, 1-2-3, 1-2-3, that means that unfortunately for the best-played plans, the suppression fire that you laid down range forced your objective of the target say to the right instead of to the left of the gunner. So he's moving away, which means that you may actually have to either reconfigure your location for fire, which can already be planned, or again, assist and then change targets accordingly, and the rifle and the long-range rifle simply engages targets of opportunity that are best suited to his mission. that manfred guy, you know, the whole book that's been I've had for like almost 40 years now. And I read it again and I brought you some of the facts a couple weeks back you might remember. Something I didn't tell you about that is those Lewis Gun emplacements, the colonels and even a couple of generals, there are notes in that book how some of their boys would make their guns threatening the enemy. And the really good ones could make their guns sing. And they'd tap out music and they'd tap out this and other things. But you're right, it's not beyond belief and it is recorded into history. Another technique that's used, and of course it's more common, but remember that this is one of the most important things to think about, is the M60 is not a dominant weapon on the battlefield. It's like the Browning today in 30 out of 6. If you've been on the range long enough, you will be able to tell a person what ammunition they've shot. In other words, if I'm firing a 1911 and I'm firing a competition pistol, there are certain significant signatures to each round, each type of round fired. Let me give you an example. I was looking at this the other day. Eli. I noticed that Eli Ammunitions are becoming available to a degree in a little greater quantity. Eli 22. Guys, when you have Eli 22 competition on the range and you've got all the other standard rounds out there like Winchester, which was provided by the DOD, Donut of Destruction for competition, it's the difference between pack, pack, pack and pop, pop, pop. Different reports and you will notice it. Also the cyclic rate changes. Different powder configurations, different energy, in some cases different bullets. We've talked under in your revolver magazine, you know, it might be all, if you've got eight rounds in the magazine, all of the bottom might be ball because at that time you're speaking you want to punch through the, or that, you know, seat in the restaurant or whatnot. It might be hollow points because you want to hit them as hard as you can. Now if you've been practicing that, you know, listening to that, because what it is is advice. Listening to that advice and then practicing it, Mark, you're going to find, you will find if you've been doing this, that exactly what you're saying. The gun will sound different. The gun will feel different because it's a different bullet load, a different powder load, and you're going bang, bang with a give right there because we've been talking about that for a year. Stacking your magazine properly, paying attention to the load, be it a hollow point or a round nose. paying attention to the load and even thinking about what I'm going to need first. Then practicing that, you've experienced what Mark's trying to say right now. I'll be quiet now. If you are a squad leader and let's say that I know that I want to control fire, let's say that I have, in fact for everything that is going on in the battlefield, I have a fire team and I have two fire teams. I have one fire team that is with me, another fire team that is in a maneuver element or a base of fire while I am maneuvering. Now, all of a sudden I have an objective that I feel we all need to control fire upon. We all need to lay fire upon. I have a yellow banded or marked with a T or red again with fingernail polish. I don't want it to stand out. I want it so I can mark my mag and I know when I reach for it, even in the darkness, I can ID it. You can put a couple of dots on there. You can put a T, which is what I prefer, a dot, a T and a dot. That way when I touch it I can feel in the darkness in a mag pouch where it should be because I'm going to put this where I can find it. I'm going to put it in a priority spot but I'm not going to use it until I need it. A team leader will take a pop over to and drop in a magazine with 30 tracer rounds. and what will happen is, since the team leader is typically a little more experienced and usually has a select fire weapon that's been captured, he's not going to carry one, he doesn't need to, otherwise you'll use semi-auto. Do not modify any of your own weapons, there's no need. When the time comes, you plug one of the buggers on the other side and you've got whatever best weapon he's already using for inventory. Whatever you're shooting that your enemy, whatever you shot your enemy with, he's probably got a lot more ammo laying around than anything else that you've got, unless it's another air 15 or whatever. And then it's the same stuff we're carrying. But the thing is that all tracer. And what happens is the team leader may use some other signaling system in addition to this, may use a whistle, of course, remember sound, tracks. When somebody finds a unique sound, they're going to be doing to you what you're trying to do to them. so that the only consideration with using sound you can use weapons because no matter what you can't mask that news just like drums that was told by using the the pace of the weapon if the gunner is thinking and the gunner should be thinking now the trial what you do is turn and dump the whole magazine into that objective twenty thirty tracers depending on what your standard is up to twenty round mag that's fine in fact that saves tracers But the idea is that if all of a sudden the team leader switches to that mag and dumps 20 rounds into a target, that attracts attention to everyone and it makes them understand all fires on that position. All fires, all fires on that position. It doesn't have to shout, it doesn't have to get on the radio, it doesn't have to scream. That one 20 round mag, you know, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, The laser can work in the same application if you've got a bunch of people pushing night vision on top of their guns and here are your pieces that can identify a target. It works the same way. Light up the laser and start dumping it on the target and everybody else is going to see what's going on. Exactly. And again, the thing about it either way is that you're attracting attention to a priority target that is probably the greatest threat and you have an opportunity to neutralize. When you have 10 men engaging with all fires, that's phenomenal. Another consideration is, and I'm going to mention this, remember, rifle grenade is readily available. They're going to see a lot of different forces carrying them. Remember, you're dealing with UN troops. In many cases, it will be fighting inside the US against us. UN forces use rifle grenades. Most of those armies in one form or another use rifle grenades. It's part of their TONE, Table of Authorized Equipment. It's part of their standard issue. I suggest that you go to YouTube, Google Video, or any number of other sources in there, and or go to whatever search engine, punch in rifle grenades, and then images so that you can see what we're talking about. Now there are a number of different rifle grenades that have been developed over the years. World War II we had, well of course World War I and World War II, they were rifle grenades, they were either the cup type or the spigot type. The US standardized on the spigot type 60 years ago and it hasn't changed. We still have a, you know, technically we have an inventory of rifle grenade rounds, but you don't see them typically out issued to the troops, but they're there. The British, the French, everybody else has them, everybody else knows to use them. By the way, your standard basket flash hider is the rifle grenade launcher. If you measure the dimension of an M7, I'll just remind you guys, take a look at an M7 rifle grenade launcher. Now this was the fix to the M1 Garand typically, and there's an M7A1 and A2, the A2s are ready, the A1s are most common, the A standard 7s were out there in force, World War II, and they were used in Korea, and still found even in Vietnam, the Arvin troops were carrying the Garand in the early stages of the war, and they had rifle grenades just like everybody else. Well that spigot design, because we kind of pushed the envelope back 60 years ago, became the norm for all of the other armies out there that decided to adopt rifle grenades. The British make an adapter for the smelly, they make an adapter for the number four infield. They used to be cheap. They came in and away for about eight, nine dollars apiece. You couldn't beat them to go on a rifle. Now the key thing here is proper rifle grenade blank. Normal blanks do not have the proper powder nor the charge to throw around far enough. It doesn't mean you won't throw the round, but I don't think you want it 25 to 30 yards away. You can heed that with your own fatal. Great for training, though. There are people right now that use the rifle grenades painted in the rifle grenade dummies, the Inurgis rifle grenade dummies painted in blaze colors, and they actually have little like JART competitions. This is something down at Knob Creek. The guys sell the Inurgis that were available and were through the Donut of Destruction in NATO. That's what the guys have been using them for. The good thing is that somebody is actually building .308 and .30-06 rifle grenade blanks out there. So you can get them. Also, you can find the specs for them and you can load them yourself. .223, a little more specialized, but they are out there. Remember that you do not want to use, and I always repeat this, somebody is going to talk in the idea, oh, have you ever heard of a medicine ball? If you ever hear that term and somebody tries to convince you to put it on your weapon, explain to them thank you, but no thank you. If you do, there are specific rules. Now with the M16, I would not do that because it is an aluminum receiver and I don't want to punish the weapon. The Garand can certainly handle using both the standard blank and the medicine ball. Now, I've qualified the way... I got 10 men. Don pops up and he's got his Air 15 and he throws that 20 round mag in there. But what he does is, one thing that most people didn't realize is instead of a chain burst, He fires five rounds, weights, five rounds, weights, five rounds, weights. Now what that does, just like talking, like we were talking about guys, okay, brrrup, brrrup, badabada badabada badabada badabada badabada. That means all small arms fire. But three five round bursts, and then maybe I can go all 20, but you know five rounds at a time, take your pick. You come up with a signal guys, you're going to be the one thinking about this. That means rifle grenade. Now consider this. Let's say that I've still got a squad gunner. He's carrying an M60 or he's carrying a Browning or he's carrying an RPK. So he's not going to do this. But all the rest of the team has the ability to switch out to rifle grenades. Your AKs, your latest U.S. Lobbyins guys are all fitted with a standard rifle grenade launcher, remember? All AKs are available out there. All your ARs automatically have a launcher. All your HK91s, their FlashHider is a launcher too. Now there's a couple things you need on there with any of the FlashHiders because there are two little steel bands that are machined into groups, machined into the FlashHider. Those are utility tool stations. And what you're going to put in there is a retaining spring. It looks like the spring from a ballpoint pen. Very fine. it halfway into the truck on that ring that cut groove that you see on the air fifteen which by the way is also on the HK-91. There is a launcher built for the FN FAL and there are launchers built for the FN 49 and other weapons. Some weapons I wouldn't bother with but let's say we all got basically the same weapon. We just saw Don fire five rounds, but hold five rounds, but hold five rounds by using all tracer. We immediately drop the mag, we immediately clear the weapon, we affix the launchable round, the rifle grenade of whatever model, whatever you have. It's not a matter of whether or not, oh, I don't like to have the same thing. It may be whatever you have. But what you're going to do is you're going to saturate the target with the equivalent to a motor barrage. Okay, everybody's going to fire bop, bop, bop, bop, boom, bop. You can even come up with a system whereby 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3, okay, well, five rounds, you know, five round burst, five round burst, five round burst. And then you're going to hold. Now the first three was a cursor or a warning. When the next five rounds go off, everybody fires. Now, instead of one guy taking a pot shot, 8 guys are dumping 8 rounds into the target area. It's like a Katyushka barrage only with rifle grenades. Somebody is going to get hit. If that's a light armored vehicle for instance or if that's a soft skin truck but with a priority target, something on board we need to hit, then consider the fact that one way or another that truck is done. That's what your mission was. And while you certainly could attempt it with small arms fire, there may be a reason for it, and that would be explained tactically during training, why we prioritize with these weapon systems. Meanwhile, the 50, hey, Dom's still doing his job with that 50 caliber, boom, putting holes in it too. Everybody's putting fires into that target. The M60 gunner is dumping the old three to five round burst, and he's be suppressing, he's prioritizing his aim point, watching with his tracers land. and trying to splash into optics or into the gun manlet. The reason I say this Don is because another thing I want everybody to do and listen carefully guys, isn't anybody wondered how, you know everybody is really amazed by all the computer on board all these tanks right? And all the imagery, they got Star Wars imagery now inside, boy it's like we're watching a video game, right? Guys have you ever looked and wondered about where the optics are for that? They gotta look out of somewhere. Now, if you look on top of every one of these modern tanks, I say, I'm not going to be punching holes initially. I'm not going to try. If you've got an M60, I'm not going to punch through, you know, 6-8 inches of homogeneous armor plate or 10 inches or 12 inches. That ain't going to happen. But I do know one thing, if I aim for that bread box on the roof of that turret, and by the way, that 50 can reach and keep into a pie plate at, you know, what, 800 to 1,000 yards down, right? Now I would direct all my fires and in fact especially if I got somebody good with a RPG good with a you know laws rocket or a viper and If they're willing to risk it or a rifle grenade that big old bread box on top if it gets blown away And it's a lot easier to blow away especially a frontal or a side angular shot It's a lot easier to gut than to try and knock the rest of the tank out initially, but once that happens I want you to consider something. All of the stereoscopic control for the main gun is gone. All of the vision block imagery for the turret is gone. The driver will be the only one who might still be able to see. But depending upon what they committed to... Yes, and so the cool thing is, you know what the solution with the Abrams is, guys? If they lose the stereoscopic fixture and all the other controls, they have a big old iron sight. Somebody's supposed to jump out of the turret, affix this big notch and D. I'm not exaggerating, guys. I'm serious. And the gunner and the commander are supposed to kind of line up that big old iron sight you put on their tank gun. Now, you think about that. Yeah, but we're not the only army. Everybody is committed to this. And here's the thing, this is why I said what's going to happen here. When you're fighting a dinosaur, or you're fighting something like this, you look for, and everybody always says they're all but gorilla warrior, you look for the weaknesses. Now I'm going to tell you right now that bread box is the weakness. It doesn't mean they're not a whole bunch of other spots that are weak on tanks. Tanks are not uniformly armored, you know, 360 degrees. So, as far as fighting or hunting tanks, you want to prioritize doing cumulative damage. Now, a lot of people say, well, just let the tanks pass. Most of the time you will. But if it's a prioritized what's called defense, and even a guerrilla or paraconventional defense in depth, American policy, which is what really made the difference, and everybody eventually was forced to adopt it, American policy with regard to anti-armor is everybody fights, everybody shoots. Even what you see with, remember, saving Ryan's privates, we use this as an example over and over again. Remember the very end where he's sitting there and he pulls out the 45 and he's plunking away at the tiger. You know, ping, ping, ping. Now he's not going to stop that tiger as far as putting a hole in the armor. He's aiming for the vision blocks. Why? Because somebody's little squinty eyes got to look through there to be able to see where they're going. And if I can take some shredded metal and stick it in his head through that vision block, that's just as good as punching through 14 and a half inches of homogeneous armor plate on a tapered angle. Oh, yeah. I'll be happy with half of that 200 grain slug going through there and whipping into somebody's forehead or snuggling into somebody's, you know, lodging into somebody's, that's not going to happen today because we don't have vision blocks, but understand what that looks like if you don't understand the system. It's not total futility. It's just fight with what you got. He's delirious anyway. He was obviously hit hard and hurting, but you continue to contribute to the fight. That was really what they're showing there. Contribute. Now remember there's all kinds of things that you know, here's another thing secondary target on the roof. What would I aim for otherwise? You know what? There's only so many antennas up top guys. That's right. And if I keep punching holes especially that half-inch gun, let's give you a reverse order here. What do you think our special forces were doing at the end of the beginning of Desert Dust Part 1? Using depleted uranium ammunition, special forces units, penetrated into and behind the lines of Iraqi frontline forces back to the support artillery. The job of the sniper teams in the initial stage of the offensive and through different actions where there were opportunities available was to place individual 50 caliber rounds through the side of artillery tubes in gun emplacements where the guns were secured and the guns were covered and they were burned up and the artillery tube was sticking up out of that berm. All they had to do was put one 50 caliber round sideways through the gun tube and the gun was rendered useless. Now the better you get at shooting a telephone pole, the farther away you can be when you do this. Wow, that's right. A telephone pole is about the same size as an artillery tube. Now I don't want to hear about a whole bunch of 50-calorie rounds cutting. So let's go get some PVC pipe from a wrecking yard or from a scrap site and a construction site. Make up a fake artillery tube and practice that way. You see how it is? Well, it's not fired down. He shot my gun. This is true, but it wouldn't be the first time. But it wouldn't be the first time. And by the way, I guess that if we did it in Desert Dust 1 and it worked really well, chances are it will work again. And it's been done. Speaking of time, we're right at the top by the way. We're just past. We should be hearing the music any moment now. So I'll tell you what, before you go any farther, Don, your number for night vision, I know this is the last hour for you today. You can reach me at 231-79658. to main military, MOLLE gear, and regular LST gear. It's a matter of your budget. 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