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Everybody volunteered for this. Apparently in a meeting during the last couple of sessions, so I don't know which one it was, but you're all clear. Everybody else gets a little bit of a holiday so you can work on other things. Anyway, Don, what is the date today, sir? Mark, it is the first day of September year of our Lord 2010. and if you've got a kid in front of you and you look over at it, that's it. So you know what's coming. And if you don't be reassured, do not mule here. One in the chamber, a simple press of a lever, the magazine is inserted into the well. The perimeter is secured, it is weapons away, although it doesn't have to be a Wednesday to put a magazine in the well, does it Mark? So any day is a good day especially or evening for that matter guys. We're going to touch on something here and I want Don to go into this top to bottom. But I've had several emails talking about what about employing, how far can we reach or what can we do with long range 50 caliber at night. Now the one thing, reason this is brought up is Don you've talked about shock effect on the night vision equipment, number one. I want to do this as an overview. Yes, we would employ our 50 caliber weapons or for that matter 300 with mag, 7mm Remington mag, 30-06, 8mm Remington mag, nagots, you name it in night operations for placement activity. But the most important thing to remember here is limitations on both range with regard to equipment and again the weapons system itself. While it can reach farther, you may have to limit depending upon the night vision equipment you have. And I would liken this, number one, that even if you did get a 50, let's say that you have a 50 caliber in place, consider your flanks. This is true with a sniper slash a placement shooter during the day, but it is especially true at night for darkness falls left and right of you. Okay, so World War II, let me say Tiger Tank, everybody immediately pictures King of the Battlefield World War II, don't they Don? Oh yeah. Mighty, mighty powerful tank. The eight millimeter gun. Oh yeah. And not only that guys, but the armor of a light cruiser on land in the front, the frontal armor of a Tiger tank. had the homogeneous armor thickness of a light cruiser or cruiser of most navies in its front glacis plates. However, like all tanks, the sides and the rear were a little lighter than the front because the logic was it was an offensive tank and it would normally be pointing forward towards the enemy in an offensive action or even defensive would put its heaviest armor and thinnest surface forward. Well, very quickly it was realized, Tiger's not a fast tank. Tiger's an open country, certainly an open country tank long tube, dominates the battlefield. As far as it can see, it can knock you out. If it can see you and it's within its combat operational range, it will hit you. And at 88, Don, you mentioned with a sniper rifle. Oh yeah. Designed for air defense first guys, not for knocking out tanks. Somebody just got the bright idea to swing it down. It could send an 88mm shell straight up 5 miles. Oh my goodness, look at that, look what's coming our way. Hey, well anyway, now here's the thing, the Germans realized, well they couldn't commit and they certainly had to spread out their other medium tanks and their other available armor. So as obsolescence, they weren't so much obsolescent, but as tanks with lesser fire power but still defense capability were available, It was decided that Panzer III's would be the flanking support vehicles for the Tiger. This gave a screen that would allow at the very least a scream, also not just a screen, with Panzer III's to the flank in the G's and M models with more teeth, in other words bigger guns. The last model of Panzer III other than the Stungeschütz type weapons The last model carried the short 75 of the Panzer IV that originally the Panzer IV started out with. So this gave the Mark III's a little more firepower and at medium close range comparable penetration than anything else that was out there. So while it wasn't the newest and it wasn't the fanciest, this tank complemented the newest and the fanciest and provided the necessary support. Now, it would be, and this is why I kind of want to bring this, segue this for Don, is a comparison is we have a 50 caliber in the field and we have a lot of people who prefer the SKS with night vision or other simpler weapons. I mean, the simple weapons by comparison, not an M16 at $3,000, but maybe an SKS that's really nice they got for $65 to $100 years ago, topped it off with some night vision. That's the equivalent, guys. Those rifles, two of those rifles, one left and one right, scanning in security and also scanning to the front of that .50 cal, means the difference between life and death. Don, I want you to explain that. And also, let's answer the question about .50 cal night vision. What can we put there? And granted, we know the prices are going to vary, so let us, bring us up to speed on that, please. Carry on. It's June 1979, one of those full Wicked magazine Soldier of Fortune. Soldier of Fortune magazine, they were pretty new then back in the late 70s. June 1979, one of the titles up toward the top is The Night. And there's a night vision photograph on the cover and it looks to be maybe first generation. If it's second generation, well it's... If you ever get this you'll see, I'm pretty certain it's first generation because the farther away you get from center the more fisheye the image becomes. But you guys, you can find information on night vision going pretty far back even in kind of little acts of the mainstream like Soldier of Fortune. And witness pictures inside that well, I could say, well get the night vision video and it'll show you a whole lot about night vision but we're not going to do that right now. But as you pointed out, Mark, different levels of contact, different range abilities. If you've got a good, and I'm going to touch on this here because it's been touched on before, the segue from, you know, can't see your hand in front of your face too, let's do that for a little bit. On a full moon night, one might have a 50 in the field that has very good light transmission with a night force or a US optic. I can't tell you a Nikon's going to live on top of a 50 or two, and they're working in two. Let's talk about a night force or a US optic. Those are top-end, you guys. They are very little resistance through the light that they move through the device. The range size isn't too... Before we get too far away from this, talking about daily, the more magnification you put in front of a night vision tube, less light hits the device with your... Let's run back to that night force. Same company. You could, as example, pick up a device from them, the 22... You know, you just turcation ring and now you've got 22 power. On a full moon night, you might be looking around with that 5 power and see something you want to magnify so you can bring it right down to the pinpoint placement because it's kind of far away but you're making it out. And as you turn that magnification up you're going to see that the impact area, your target area, even if you're holding it is right in the center of the view. and you're bringing that magnification and you're never losing sight of your target, you're going to see it get a little bit dimmer and a little bit dimmer. Your eye will notice that because the more magnification you bring in, the less light you're bringing through. Now you can work, and this is where I wanted to go with this, if you don't have something that's going to hold up to a heavy recoil on a 50 because we'll talk about that in a little while, but you can work in certain light levels. And if you've got good eyes, you can work some daylight night vision. Daylight into the night as long as you've got a full moon or are working on the edge of a city or whatnot. Because even sometimes taking a piece of night vision and working from the countryside into the city, you're going to come to places where you don't need a piece of night vision. sell a piece of night vision too. If you can look over there and see with your naked eyes and make things out, that's not an area you want to turn your night vision to unless it's going to save your life or somebody else's because that's going to put a lot of time on the device. I'm getting a little bit away here but I want to run back to that because there might be times when even good light gathering, not light amplifying, there's a difference. Good light gathering, daylight scope, you can operate that on top of your 50. throughout the night. As pointed out most of a week ago, the sun wrapped her sunset. And because of that, it went down just a week ago. This time frame a week ago was a very illuminated night. On a night like that, well, a lot of people don't need a piece of night vision. But you know what? On a night like that, when your eye can't make out what's in the shadows, you can turn a piece of night vision toward that and make out what's in the shadows. as long as you can kind of fill the frame, your viewing frame, because a piece of night vision will adjust its... how hard it's working is one way to put it... by the amount of light it's sensing in front of the device. If you're trying to look into a shadow and it's only a third of your viewing area, the night vision device will adjust itself to the brightest image in its field of view. So you still won't be able to look into this. Now if you want, you can throw an illuminator into that shadow and you're going to throw... uh... invisible light to the human eye into that shadow and your device is going to your night vision device is going to be able to make out you know wherever that illuminate or that i r light goes your night vision device will give you a good read heavy god mauler guns even on a full moon night if your heavy gun is being operated with the daylight lenses you have someone with good eyes and that's what he's dependent upon you know let's go back to that kind of a shadow because he's not going to make out things in in the different I am different light levels. A guy with the SK and a piece of 3 power, 4 power, night vision is going to make out even 2 power. We've talked about that because there's a second generation piece I can get you right now. It has 2.8 power and that doesn't seem like a lot because when, again, as mentioned, daylight from 5.5 to 22 power. So, you know, that's 4 times the range from 5.5 to 4 times the magnification increase to 22 power. But at 22 power if I were to set a good piece of night vision behind that daylight scope, we'd have any light coming. But I could, this on the air, turn that scope down to 5.5 power and put a first, second, or even third night vision scope behind it just to check aim. And if you're shooting at the equipment, the target that's not moving, you can do it like that. You can shoot simply holding the device behind the gun and then, you know, not moving, remove the device so it doesn't suffer the impact. pull the trigger or if you're willing, nothing that I release from the night vision device, from the rear of the night vision device, there's nothing I release. But now that's a little bit less accurate than having everything mounted to the gun for a minute. Because that SK, that AK, that AR, that FM of the team, and I've told you this for years, you guys, if you have, and you've heard me say this almost since the very first time I was on the air, back in 96 by Creckee. I was telling you, if you've got a night vision, you should come up with a spotting scope too, a night vision scope, because then you're going to take somebody else into the field with you, probably, because now you're starting to, what is that, build a team and a team that can look in the night vision, a team that can look in more than one direction. They're not just limited to one piece of night vision. It's going to be a lot harder to, in fact, it will more than double your chances, think about it, because the ability to talk about target fixation. Sometimes I've gone on and on about target fixation. But you know what, if you're simply involved in that shoot that was described moments ago trying to make a piece of night vision a handheld piece or night vision goggles, because many goggles would be one power magnification. So that would be your best bet piece of night vision. Not necessarily goggles, but one power to locate a piece of night vision behind a daylight scope. Now, there are other ways to do this. Really, buying a night vision scope, but it's going to be kind of intricate because you know Mark you touched on this a while back mounting a rifle and in this instance a heavy rifle 50 caliber you could do this with your 338 you could do you know your Lapua you could do this with your 408 Chi-tech. I want to bring up a mount and now this is going to be you're going to have to be clever to follow along with the description here and I'm not going to be you know completely able in the description. Just use your imagination here because you know what you can build a mount that will cradle the gun much like a rifle rack and then you'll be able to manipulate. You know, give yourself asthma and elevation. Now depending on how much you need is depending on your limits and what not. You know if I need to shoot at airplanes you can bring it straight up and down if you want. Now you're going to have to have the kindle slightly forward and angling a yoke back on right. Now the guns cradle. you can pull the trigger and the gun recoils in that rest. Just a piece of night vision that you're just kind of on another completely separate arm. Not touching the gun, touching the gun rest behind the piece. One way to get there with a 50 you guys, because I'll tell you what, Alfred O for last year and a half, almost two years, second generation, gun 2.8 power mentioned earlier. It is fixed, this is one of the things that helps make that much less moving pieces. So there's that much, sounds like Ed Colwin. old GM. Any part not put on it cannot fail. It's the same thought line. Because when you bring the device up to your shoulder, the diopter side, the eye side of the piece of night vision to your eye, everything is in focus from about 15 yards out to the end of vision, you know, what the manufacturer would like you to believe is infinity. Because I can, but now we're talking about representing things with pickles and you know, we could talk about, I don't want to talk about infinity and night vision. That might be addressed in another. that device up to your eye and adjust the eye side only. You can walk around with that on your shoulder using it for your basic navigation because you don't have to bring one of your hands up to the front lens to adjust as example to turn the right to 45 degrees or maybe slightly less than that so you can look forward at your path. Now with 2.8 power, if you were to look right at your feet, you're going to see basic image but they're not going to be sharp, crisp, So again, it's a thick piece, but now this is meant to help it, the manufacturer says it'll hold up a 308 recoil, and the manufacturer gives it a two year warranty, twice as much as most everybody else in the night vision field right now save for the, oh, like I-T-T, and you'll pay top dollar for anything you get from them. Or anything less than that in recoil, this is a very good device, but now you could also mount this device in the aforementioned array. and use it for shooting a 50 year .33A, year .408. But now we could go up there when you want to talk about a Mars, which is one of the manufacturers names of a particular rifle sight. But now I have to identify that because you know the difference between here you guys, but the difference between the ability to hold up to a .308 recoil and generally that .308 as it might have at the modification of the front would be maybe a, I mean you're not going to see a whole lot of rifles out there in many variants with muzzle brakes on them. It might have a consader of some variant or another in order to keep the muzzle down. But if you've got that, you don't want to mount a piece of night vision on it because you're going to interrupt that field of view with a little bit of flame there and we'll talk about that. But now let's go back to that. I can offer a little live on top of your up to .308 recoil. in your mailbox for $15.60. The manufacturer wants $16.99 and pennies for it, you know, $16.95 or something. I'll put that device in your mailbox for $1560. Do the math. It's, you know, 10% less or so. Night vision, second generation, hold up to a hell of a recoil. We're going to have to go to a completely different body. And another source of mine, the manufacturer says, well, a piece like that's going to add almost $1,000 to the place. Now you're looking at a second generation gun. that'll hold up to a 50 caliber for somewhere around $2,500. I know that's a big step up, but again, that's something that'll live on top of your arm light, your AR 50, it'll live on top of your Barrett, it'll live on top of your McMillan. I can't tell you when you start getting down to a 16 or 18 pound gun, some of the, you know, pin guns that you're just pinning up or onto something else. You have to talk to the manufacturer about But the aforementioned guns, the Barrett, you know, that's almost 20 pounds worth of guns. And weight does a gate recoil. That's another thing. That's why you've got that big front. That muzzle brake. Now a muzzle brake induces harmonics into a gun. It starts to move one way, then it slows down and comes to us and says, well, it makes it move back even the other way. Well, if it does, it's a few thousandths of an inch. Again, it introduces different harmonics into a gun. This is another reason why when you start talking about 50s, you need something really rugged on top. Now with that in mind, The mid-2000s, about $2,500 you guys are going to put on top of your 50. But if you get there, let's say that you've got the AR or the MacMillan for a piece of night vision and eventually you get that on top. Now there's some other pieces that will work on top of that. If you're looking at some of the images out of Baghdad or soon to be Afghanistan or maybe Iraq. You might see a tank row buyer, an armored vehicle row buyer, on top it'll be even a 50 or some different automatic weapon. On top of that, it'll be a long tubular, appears to be a daylight. It'll get a little bit bigger on the floor. What you're looking at there is a Raptor about magnification. About 6 to 3rd generation tube is about the maximum you're going to get away with. A few years ago, my cost on them was like $6,400. I could turn them into the field, pound 150 bucks on it and turn it into the field. Between that wrap versus the second or even third generation of 4 mentioned that will hold up on a 50 is you could buy two. Yeah, almost enough to buy another. You guys, in front of your night vision, there are manufacturers that will buy stick lenses in front and you'll find a lot of plastic. Go back over to that. Now you've got that heavy gun and it's equipped with a piece of night vision and run back to that basic that Don was talking about. You've heard many times over the years, if you've got a piece of night vision on it, it would be to your benefit, even if you have to come up with it, find another big pile of pop bottles and try to match, at least in generation and magnification, the wife got. That way your, because that's what it would be if you move into the field with the team, he'd be basically your spotter. And you know what else spotters do is the immediate area of security. Now we've talked about this too, because you know, Basically it's been presented to a sniper, that's a lone wolf. We've heard all that lull. We've turned our back on a good portion of it because we talk about a shooter and a spotter at the very minimum. And when you start talking about moving a heavy gun into the field, it would be best to move up to four and even five men because now, wow, if you have to run with that gun, you can run a couple hundred yards. to somebody else. He can run a couple hundred yards with it while you carry his short range or even while you're moving in. You know, if you want to move in with a semi-auto or even a belt fed weapon, Mark, I think you said it's mid 40s for a hundred rounds in a 50 caliber can, mid about 44, 46 pounds or something. That's a hundred linked. If you move in with a full can non-linked, that's more than 60 pounds now. You know, even if you're carrying that Barrett, which is 18 plus pounds. That's a bear gun. That's not dressed. The rings, the scope of some because the moments ago, I talked about lining up a piece of the back of your rifle and kind of moving the night vision away and then taking the shot. But you know, you know, you can get the monopod for the back of a lot of big, big knot. It'll fit in where you can modify it. But you know, it's just a matter of turn, turn, turn. And now you're adjusting your elevation up or down. And you know, you adjust your asthma. by pointing the gun in the right general direction, right, until its crosshairs are up and down on the target, right, kind of almost remotely shooting the gun. It would be good to have a monopod on the back of the stock, too, because as you shift away and try to get the piece of night vision out of the way, if you're worried about that much recoil in the gun, if the gun is standing on a monopod, you're not going to change your elevation, are you? But now let's run back to that, because we're talking about mixing kind of Macintosh. If he's got a handheld device that's night vision, you're going to want to get immediately, at the very minimum, a laser on his sidearm. As slick as you can, if you look at 1911, it'll apply over to a lot of other guns because of the basic format. But you can get a laser that fits into the grip, you can get a laser that fits into the spring guide bar, you can get lasers that fit underneath the stuff on your handgun the more it's is likely to catch something and hang up on something. Same thing works for your long gun. Again, inside the grip or inside your return spring bar because it's kind of lined with the bore, isn't it? Now that man holding that piece of night vision with his hand, looking for spotting, think targets are moving off. All you've got is one guy. You don't want him looking in the same direction you are all the time, do you? That reeks of target fixation, doesn't it? So if you think about moving around in the daytime and moving around at night, basically a lot of the same ways you're going to move and stay in the daytime, you're going to do that at night too. If I want to look completely behind me and I'm laying down on the ground, stand up and turn around and I don't get my shoulders up off the ground, I might sink into my chest and look the minimum of motion. And if I can get to looking behind me with a little bit of look of my shoulder and moving my head and bringing the night vision device up, That's even less motion, isn't it? And we've talked about motion and night, you know, lousy camouflage. Let's do that real quick here because you know, the guy that you're walking down the trail and you know, do do do do, and you look over there and you hit your buddy in the elbow, in the ribs with your elbow and you say, look over there, look at that lousy camouflage. That guy's trying to hide from us and you laugh at him and you know, soon he becomes a casualty statistic. If that camouflage is in the shadows, it is in the right places at night. Even if you are looking at it with a third generation piece, a lousy camouflage many times is going to work a whole lot better at night. That goes back over time. We have talked about motion a number of times in this. We just talked about completely looking at a different least amount of motion. If you are standing in a pit, all the opponent sees is your head swivel and the device, the night vision swivel with you. If you are turning your gun, he sees that too if he is looking right at you. about that single man because you know right now you might be walking across well this evening you might be walking across your property with your you know your NV on top of your rifle your night vision will shorten it up a little bit and call it NV on top of your rifle and there's a little bit of motion over there but you know what if you've got another piece of night vision it might be good to bring that up first and bring up a gun and sometimes it's good to have a gun pointed at a threat immediately, but sometimes it's good to identify a threat before you bring a gun to it. And that's a personal, that's a judgment call. It depends on PIVOTY and YORI would be one of the major judgments on that. Back to that, because you know what, that guy moving that heavy gun, Mark Westrom would say when we talk about the AR-50, well it's into the medium weight of the 50 caliber shooters association. It's over 35 pounds and it's under 50 pounds. If it's into the medium weight, but Mark Westrom, you know, manufacturer of the AR-50, you know, Chief Cook, head bottle washer and guy in charge there at Armalite, he would say, well, it's not a gun you do the manual of armalite. And no pun intended, just look at the weight. A gun like that, you're not going to want to walk point, not to mention it's just simply a single shot gun. It might be a little bit better and I've seen a number of men now, Mark, pick up a Ronnie's gun, that M82. semi-automatic magazine fed the G50 caliber Hamburg gun and pick it up to their shoulder while they're standing and go bang. You can't just go bang bang bang like you could like this man could with his 30-out six because it's even a big guy it takes a moment to recover from the recoil and bring the gun back to target. M82 Ronnie Barrett's M82 semi-automatic 50 about bang bang bang. Now you could get away with that if it's laid across sending on it. You know first came out and this was commented on the air when the Armalite first came out. That bipod has got some skinny legs there Mark. Basically the same bipod, everybody's picked up now, it's a lot heavier duty. So you could get away with that pulling the gun to your shoulder and the gun back. So it wouldn't be a real good point thrown back to who would you put up there on the point. Maybe a piece of, you know, if you're looking at something like a 50 and the recoil, one of the ways of manufacturing, there's no shock. recoil it's a mild shove like a 12 gauge now you think about it you guys a handgun the sharp of the recoil of a bore handgun versus the could almost call the mild shove could even talk about your three inchers and I'm the guy that'll tell you I've shot double off at once so I know what the difference between okay I know the difference stuff like that if you look at that even in second generation that would be good mounted on top of a shotgun because it'll hold up to the recoil if you want to go in that direction. But now we're talking about a night patrol right supporting a heavy gun right. And shotguns work just as well at night as they do in the daytime. I would reinforce that thought. We talk about, and over the last week I did something and then finished the talk about encloses a relative thing. And let's say even first generation, if you've got a gun site, first generation on top of your SK, your AK, and you know it's something that lives there because you can find some people that will tell you a first generation piece that man it's hard to live on top of your 22. You've got that first generation piece in a full moon and because even with trying to target it distance depends on the background. If the guy is as example in you know the multiple color the Woodland BDU standing there in just the right shadow and and has the woods behind him, he's going to be hard to make out unless he starts moving. And even then, if he's in a heavier shadow, he's going to be hard to make out. If he, if, then again, the full moon, you might be able to, you know, recognize. And there's a difference between recognition and distinction. Distinction means I can see something moving over there. Recognition would be, well, that's a bruise, not a rifle or not a cow. See what I mean? Difference between recognition and distinction. So you're going to get great then you are recognition on any manufacturer what they tell you about trying to describe performance of their device. Even entry level, an SK with a first patient piece on it until you get down to extreme low light like no moon and then no moon and overcast so that even a starlight is filtered down. By that time you're going to want to throw the illuminator off. But if you've got a third patient piece on top of your longer gun, the hard hitter gun. He can sweep areas and he can even designate targets. And speaking of designating targets, let's go back to that. Because that man, if your spotter only has a handheld device, well, you zero that piece of night vision on his handgun. And you know when he brings it, because I started to talk about this and moved away from it too quickly. When he is looking at the target, he brings the handgun up and points it in what he believes to be by his persepigate and he might even be, I'm on target. I would advise you to put a pressure switch on that piece of night vision or rather that piece of laser on your handgun. There are a number of reasons why. But faster than this action can be described. You are looking at the target with the night vision. You bring the handgun to bearability, general area. You press and take the shot and turn the switch. Now that can happen many times in an understandable way. I can run that fast as fast as that action can. work you can use. We've talked about this before. If you've got multiple first generation pieces in the field and a brave man with a third generation piece, even with a laser on a stick, he can direct that point at targets. He can be down under cover only to the extent that I've got my head up looking at the target. That laser might be eight feet away, eight feet above him, eight feet over. You know, if you're really clever, all of the things that we have now, you guys, for remote control cars, how about you just lay a thing down somewhere as you move into an area, and then you bring it online and it's a laser and you're controlling it, and it could cost pennies. If you're taking a part of a dead remote controller and write, see, what more do you need on it? Kind of like a basic level playing field and use that. Nobody even has to be there. Use that to direct to a general area. looking in that area they can discern the motion. Let's go back again. When you lay down the path in this thought line, it's like a Christmas tree. Talk for hours and hours about it. Now we're about halfway up the trumpet. We've been over on this branch and over on that and out to the twigs on some of them branches haven't we? But let's go back because you know what, basic support for a heavy gun at night and it might sound kind of stupid to a lot of bullets. You're going to work much like you do in the daytime. You're going to work much like you do in the daytime. You're not going to, you know, lolly gag and you're going to keep your eyes open and you're going to keep your spacing and you're going to keep looking around and you're going to practice that noise discipline, aren't you? All of the things that you do to move across the field in the daytime and stay alive still work at night. They still work at night. Don't forget that. Just because, well, I got to fight. You know, you guys, I could tell you, well, I can solve first, second, third. I can even get you fourth generation. And you know, fourth generation was only supposed to go into helicopters. Well, no, if you know that. But they didn't mix with some other technology just right. So we got a bunch of fourth generation tubes, even unto today. The fourth generation was only going to go into helicopters. And the pilot would look over there and see that and kind of fly like, you know, a video game. But here they are and I could offer you 4th generation if you want. But even with that 4th generation tube on top of the most expensive gun and even if you've mastered that gun and kind of really really know what your night vision can do for you, that don't make you king of the night. Not unless you recognize the basic statement that was kind of been repeated a couple of minutes ago about you know, the same things that are going to keep you alive in the daytime. The same basic ways to move. The same basic ways. that you deploy. The same spacing, noise, discipline, all of those. And even a little bit more because well, now you can talk about light discipline at night too, can't you? Man, where are we? I gotta read this map. Everybody just come over here and make a wall. Even the proper way to read a map is addressed on. One of the ways to read a map, the proper way, because there's more than one way to do it. The place to read a map out in the open field is on the night vision video you guys. And you know what, if you've got a poncho, you're almost all the way there. And if you've got a subdued light, one of the ways to subdue a flashlight would be if you've got black tape, put a piece of black tape across it and then cut a switch. You know, well, you don't get much light out of it and you want to light a... Well if you're trying to not be seen, you don't want to break out that million candle power light and point it at the sky, do you? Much like you don't want an on-off laser on your handgun or on your long gun because when you turn that laser on and oops you stumble or oops something worse happens. Now you fall down and oops maybe that laser is right next to you, your gun is right next to you but guess what? is pointed up in the sky. Now don't you think that would be if someone else, you know, the op force, the bad guys have a piece of night vision. Don't you think they'd be looking at and then maybe closing on your area. The same thing works with my white display. If you've got that little slot, just cut in that tape and turn that light on and just have that little dinky amount. Now if you're under a poncho, you're containing any escaped light also, right? Now if you've got the lenses, well the green, the yellow, the blue, you can do things like well put the red and If you're bunched up at night, it's just as easy for the guy operating that MG. You fill his field of vision when he's looking at you through his piece of night vision. And if you're all bunched up or if you're all in a line, see even walking down a path, you got that point guy he might be working at the front, the edge of the path, something. The next guy back, he might be walking along the other side of the path, nobody down the center. Because you know if you're all walking down the center of the path, even if you're... Excuse me. even if you're 12 or 14 people spread over 100 yards close together but that's a little bit of a line for a straight path but if gun is laid in the right place that's kind of just set up like bowling. So again I fall back on that. The same things that are going to keep you alive in the daytime, the same ways to move, the same if you have to get down and crawl on the ground because that's what you do across that field in the daytime. You're going to have to apply that same thought line at night because you know what, as mentioned at the front of this hour, Fortune Mark goes back to June 1979 and there's a picture of night vision on the cover and you know what? There's been some night vision sold even into private American hands since June 1979. I've done this, I think I even mentioned this on the video. If you've got a piece of night vision that doesn't mean you own the night. That means you've got a fighting chance and what you do with that chance is up to you and again, what you think you can do and what you can do sometimes or you know, conflicting thoughts and they can conflict sometimes but you want to work this on the other guy. You want to have his thoughts so conflicting that eventually you separate from his mind, right? Isn't that the goal there? Rather than the tables being so... I'll say it again, you guys. Simply walking across that field at night, you get to the edge of the field and you look around a little bit. If you read some action People have moved to the edge of big clearing openings, the edge of the river, for two hours studying the other side. Listening and looking, studying the other side and people moving up and down the river looking for better places. Look, it's like there's about 200 yards or 400 yards of open land the other side. Now that's a good place in one sense because there's going to be no immediate threat. But the other sense of that is once you get across that river, you've got two or three hundred yards of open land to cross. So see the, you find that balance. You find what is comfortable for you. But again, back to the front of this. There's been reports of people sitting on the edge of a river for one or two in the morning and then determining that they're going to cross thought of starting to deploy their side to build that defensive area, right? And now the third squad's getting across and the first squad runs into the initial, makes the initial contact because they're waiting for you to get most of your people on the other side of the river so all you've got is the river at your back so again you know that can be a daylight that could be a daylight scenario too you know just because you have a piece of night vision don't think that well ladi da i'm gonna walk across this field or i'm gonna afford that river at my leisure it might not work that way sometimes it might be just like daylight for the other guy too the bottom line so take nothing for granted and the odds are you're going to live a little longer if you take nothing for granted and apply common sense well i thought you're going to live even longer and you know we can do everything we can to increase the odds so you know something that is como cot immediately if you engage a four you're going to be able to tell if they've got my vision or not at night you'd be immediately by the where the hip are they're shooting at you blindly by the white level you're going to be able to talk kind of what they're using you know for second third they're shooting at you with a daylight pieces described at the front of this hour now you know what that you might have somebody with real good eyes and uh... he might have that might force or that light force turned down to the minimal of magnification he's looking well he's looking at the guy standing next to you you're looking right at him with a piece of night vision and there's just enough light that he can't make out his reticle without lighting it. So he clicked on that lighted reticle, lowest level, just so he can see it. But you know what, if you're kind of looking right down the tube of that daylight device, there's nothing between that lighted reticle and you and it is a red light, isn't it? And if you're looking at it with a piece of night vision, well, you've kind of got him zeroed, don't you? That would go over Mark to the description that comes from from a half-cock shooting at the egg lint carefully moving into the area and finding out that he sent one of those 308 bullets from an enemy sniper and oh by the way it didn't do his right eye any good either with the comments from half-cock. Most important here too, Gal, there's limits to everything, the right tool for the right job and I've just hoped I've described that reticle to be. If you're pointing that reticle, that daylight reticle at somebody, they can with their night vision since they've got it. Mark, we're right at the top. Yes we are. 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