August 30, 2010
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Mark Koernke discussed preparedness and medical response to bee and wasp stings, with caller Don sharing a personal experience of being stung by a yellow jacket and experiencing elevated heart rate. The show covered emergency medical procedures including the use of auto-injectors (EpiPens) and atropine, improvised field medicine techniques, and the importance of carrying backup medical supplies in teams. Koernke also warned listeners about a pending UN firearms treaty in the Senate, urging constant monitoring of Senate proceedings to prevent its passage through procedural manipulation during non-business hours.
- bee stings
- yellow jackets
- epipen
- atropine
- field medicine
- emergency preparedness
- un firearms treaty
- senate procedures
- federal reserve
- alternative energy
- electric cars
- university of michigan
- militia preparedness
- medical supplies
- survivalism
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You read about the current news in a regulated press and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold you trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame You've taken Satan's number you traded in your name You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for what you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch in tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms He fought to keep what would be your answer if he called out from the grave is this still the land of the the drums I hear the drums in the distance go to the sound of the drums and the sound of battle Well, good afternoon ladies and gentlemen. This is the afternoon intelligence report. I'm Mark Horky. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters, both on and behind the lines in occupied territories, Central, Southwest, East, and Northeast. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to us on... L'Liberty Tree Radio dot 4 mg dot com, PBN dot 4 mg dot com, and we are on live 365. Then go to L'Liberty Tree Radio. We're also on AM&FM micro stations, CB Bay stations, and Ultra Net Technologies both east and west of the Mississippi along with Southern and Central Alaska. We're on the Hallmark Network on the Eastern Seaboard from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida. From the bottom of Florida across the arc of the Gulf of Mexico headed towards Louisiana, Texas, Oklahoma. Ooh, a big chunk of Iowa slash Iowa, Nebraska, and as you know, the third. of wyoming then back across the big money well first leaping like the whole across the cornfields all past the nuclear silos but yet forgot about those didn't you and then more all in shoot us that's good thing and over to the other side and there we are well the all the blue ridge the smoky is and by the way Also, the Golden Spike Project right there with the restaurant crew, the grandma teams, and the OK teams doing their part to get the job done to find a replacement for, and in fact build, a replacement for the internet. When the bad guys shut down the internet, they'll be cutting off their nose to spite their face. And you know what? they're only anyway so we don't care if they do that mon yada all the way yah all the way who are the bad are the only liberal probably though that never come over the monkey yellow gorilla bad bad bad baby and socialist or anyway it is a beautiful they're from shiny It's been sweltering, and yet the reason for that, guys, today is because we've had threat of rain and then blue skies, and then threat of rain and blue skies. We have not been rained on yet. I shouldn't say a word because while we're doing the program, that's when the next wave comes. But it is a beautiful 30th of August. the second year of fave yen socialist and soviet socialist occupation of america with the k doesn't mean that they've been through there before ok go where he bush uh... best president mexico's earth uh... he was right there playing the game nonstop kids and over as much america they could don't worry he did it to shovel this past as possible and towards the end well and the beginning of this this character or some of them being on the chipmunks They've just been shoveling your wallet right out to somebody else's hand as quick as they can move that bucket. And that's all there is to it. Tell you what, I think we have down with us. If not, we have a caller maybe. Hey, chump listener. Oh, well good. You know what? By the way, how's Southern Michigan slash Louisiana? Let's see, it just finished raining, now the sun's out, baking. It's got the foil over it, and you've got that humor, that vapor, that steam coming up off the ground down there in Louisiana. Yes sir, we do. What is the temperature today? I don't know. It was pretty cool earlier, but it's quickly rising. It's cooking. Well, you know what, I think we've got the same weather identical to you today. Seriously. I think you could match. If you look on the... Ignore maybe the weather man. He's probably lying to us all, Mike. But the way it's looking today, we got Louisiana weather. Maybe the humidity wasn't quite as high, but it was pretty darn close. We've got all these lakes around us. You've got that big old gulf where all you find are floating dead birds and the oil crews die before they get to offload their equipment so they have to bring people in with chem suits and offload the oil. Is that what's happening down there? You know, they pretty well got a lid on that time. I know. But I don't think we had any oil crews dying while they were trying to pump the oil off those rigs just off the coast. Oh no, that doesn't happen. You know what I mean. In other words, if it's the dead zone, it'd be like, whatever you do, don't get any within three miles of the place or a plop. You know what I mean? yet that they're like a paper like uh... quality properly blue you know you know halo kind of paper come up off the water about a hundred feet high and anything that failed until it becomes part of the ghostly i don't know what probably is with time thank goodness it's not around here so that they're just they're just not doing your neck of the woods not yet well fair the interesting thing is they they were thinking about i am sure that they were thinking about jack in the price oil and somebody started talking to the uh... you know everybody in the in the industry is like you know i think if we try this is not going to be a good thing right now and the reason is for something i mentioned earlier here uh... and we've been talking about him if you've been with this program you know we talked about all from energy real alternate energy uh... example steam cars electric cars. Guys, we've had electric cars since the teens of the last century. When we have the Jim Monahan Steam Fest up here, Mike, we have a couple of gentlemen that bring two classic electric cars. You know what they've done? They've upgraded to really nice new batteries. And that's the only change. And you know, they drive all around town, they go visit people, then they bring it over to the steam show, they park the car there, they lift the back end of the thing so we can go, wow, where's the motor? Well, that's the power source, and that's kind of the fuel tank. And there's a motor around the side here, and we can show you the real simple electronics, which are so goofily simple. In other words, we're talking easy to understand. And yet everybody goes, it's so great to build an electric car. It's like, really? Well, consider this, that they replaced the batteries that are in the old car from about 100 years ago now, electric, with modern conventional acid batteries. They could just as easily have taken that same old car and put a whole bunch of really cool gel cells or something like that in it. And it would hold an even deeper, longer charge. I mean, just purely matter being creative. But the electric car is already very much there and the thing I think they're worried about is everybody's like, you know what? I've had enough of this. Let's go to something else and that's why they backed off. I've been looking for them to find, to manufacture or create some kind of material like that space, like I do for the space shuttle. I only have it photoelectric or I have it In other words, build the thing out of material that will function. Actually, the body of the car. Or the roof of a house. Interestingly enough, they actually... I mean, you know, it's funny as you hear about these projects, you think, you know, there's massive plant factories and incredible research facilities. You can picture a building the size of a football stadium and people coming and going and scurrying. And for the very project you're talking about, Mike, I can take you over to North Campus. There's a garage door. It's about the size of the garage door at your house. And you open it up and there's no finish on the walls. All of the shop benches are improvised and cobbled together. and the very project you're talking about, and they give you an idea of how little priority they are giving them. And that's a good old U of M, by the way. Now on the other hand, oh my goodness, they can spend money on Chinese slave labor all day, and they do, by the way, especially on our campus, that's where they house more. But promoting the status quo is job one. And by the way, that's exactly what it was. Who did that quality as job one? that's all school mark yeah i know where you have a real thing about that all that's right where you see the whole thing is that uh... uh... first had a piece of english before they understand what the word quality map and that was the biggest problem about the chinese student university michigan displaced all these american students are four point oh great average average uh... what was interesting is it wasn't that they were you know picking uh... blacks and his panics although they did quite a few you know displaced you know not because they were competent because of your racial preference because of an agenda. What's interesting though is that the Chinese were the ones that came in. A block of 3,000 by the way, who bumped out a whole bunch of other students, not because they were qualified, but because GM and Ford wanted to pump up their racket for what we now see as the demise of the American manufacturing end of General Motors and Ford. And lo and behold, these people could not speak English before they could even go to the class They had to set up what we call language labs all over North Campus so they could teach them English so they could sit in on the classes, which otherwise they could not comprehend at all. Now think about that. That's why people were willing to, especially Buffy and Biff, were willing to go ahead and actually file lawsuits, which is really what the whole case is about. They tried to misdirect that in so many ways. And of course, you know, there were black people, hating white people, and supposedly all the white people were evil and bad, and well, okay, we had nothing to do really so much with that, as it had to do with the marker behind the scenes that nobody wanted to talk about. But Mark will. Well, I've got some stuff, various, that I just love to send you, but I don't know an email address to send it. Well, I'll tell you what, before we go any further, I heard another beep. Who do we have there? I think we've got Don, Mark. There we go. Well, thank you, Dee. There we are. Now, liberty at provide.net. How's that sound? Alright. Liberty at symbol, provide, you know, liberty at provide.net. Okay. Now we'll get 50 million other emails. Since they're with you about a thousand tonight right now, I think I can... I'm good for about eight or ten of them right now. There we go. That's okay. I'll just remember just alt-energy, Mike. How's that sound? Alt-eng. Alt-eng, Mike. Clap to Verrata neck to dash neck tie necklace. Oh, I know it's an N word. Roger that. Well, anything else, Mike? I'm muting up. Okay, well, again, while it's open, we pull it down long enough that the dogs will be there howling for the train, just to get that in there. Well, if one passes and they start, I'll unmute. There we go. Again, don't worry about hesitating interrupt, because that will be the hounds of the Baskerville, or in this case, the hounds of the Bynerville. Yeah, of the Bayou. Yeah. Excellent. Thank you, sir. Thank you. So what's been happening up in your end of Michigan there right now, sir? Well, it's a beautiful day here. If you want to work outside, like roofing or something, you better be drinking lots of water because you're going to be expending it. It's one of those days, you guys. It's a scorcher, but, you know, hey, it's something like 30 days of temporary. Well, there's tomorrow, August, isn't there? But, you guys, you know, Mark, I opened the hour with you this morning. I'm sorry, I'm late this afternoon. I've got some mechanical things going on. It has to do with a motor that's failed in another, but... I'm going to probably have to leave maybe at like 10 till because a master mechanic will be here to condemn this one motor. So that'll be helpful when it comes time to go to court. At any rate, you guys, we started talking at the beginning of the 10 o'clock hour this morning about personal experience. And I said, well, I want to keep that for a minute. And we went to the phones. And the phones kept us busy for the rest of the day or the hour. But you know what happened to me, Mark, over the weekend. And you guys, a lot of you, over time, you know, well, benchmark on it. I'm somewhere between 55. You know what I mean? I'm not 54 and I'm not 56. I'm somewhere between 55, Mark. Some people when I say that to them, and I was saying that when I was 22, I'm somewhere between 22. Some of them look at me sideways and never understand it. Over the years as a youngster and whatnot, I've been hit with my share of bees and maybe bumblebees and big, you know, things that shouldn't fly kind of bees, but I'll tell you what Mark, this is from personal experience and we'll work this right into what's going on. Yesterday I was doing some maintenance around here actually I was washing some windows that needed to be washed so the night vision works a little better when I sneak it through the curtain there if I want to just do the sneak, the look outside. Well, I went to wash those windows and mix of water and vinegar and for me that works pretty good on windows and I guess the The beehive, it wasn't bees you guys, it was mud dabbers, you know, yellow jackets. They look like bees, you know, they're yellow and black, only they live in like a mud dapper kind of nest or a hot mark. Well, they were hung up there under the, under the eve of the trailer here. Yeah, I live in a trailer, but you know, hey, it doesn't bother me none. And I deployed that vinegar and water and got done with a big window and got done with a little window and all of a sudden there's about four bees flying around me. I thought they were bees 40 feet away, Mark. Now I, I know bees will chase you a little bit and Africanized bees will chase you a hundred or two hundred or three hundred yards you guys. By the time I got about 35 feet away I'm trying to move this bee away from my face and he must have thought I was Yogi Bear, this yellow jacket, this type of hornet. Marky stung me right at the layer of the nostril where it hits the top and that little bee you guys that hit me like a hammer. I mean, when I was a kid, and even as an adult, doing, you know, work around the house, gets stung on the arm by a bee, and I'll throw this in because a bee is in the house, and a lot of people are amazed when a bee comes around, I tell it to go away, and I move my hands, and, you know, they think it's all mystical or something, but I'm moving my hands and literally directing them, go away, bee, go away, and the bee generally goes away. So I don't have any animosity toward him, but this bee, this hornet, and you know, a hornet will hit you over and over, like a machine gun. He loses its stinger with the first hit. This guy hit me under the nose mark and I came in and put a baking soda on it immediately. I pulled my hand with baking soda and then just moistened it enough so I could slap it on my nose and it stuck there. It wasn't very attractive. I think it did a little good. It was about that in about that short of an order, about 88 per minute. And I, at the time that pulled it, about five minutes started to bulb my neighbor across the street and reached for two 10 milligrams of antihistamine and ate those and then put, you guys, by this time in about that yellow jacket you got my paul for the forty eight pay for a few minutes and i'm you know that they're trying to do my breathing exercises concentrate totally on my breathing take my you know everything conscious out of jim the body i'm doing everything i can to calm the body but you guys that was a pretty big adrenaline hit now let's run into that because you know what talking with a person who is also allergic to be but it's also a nerve and so she's describing this to me what's going on and now she's got because she's allergic, she's got the atropine right there just in case I start to not be able to breathe. I can't remember what it was now. Antihistamine. Started to kick in and calm down. That ran me out pretty good. You might wonder why I'm going on and on about this. That was a northern Michigan bee, not an Africanized bee. It was rather a hornet. over the years, probably 20 or maybe 30 times, not like a beekeeper who might get stung that many times in a week. But, you know, one thing about allergies, you guys, you can be not allergic to something as a child, much like as a child of a heavy, spicy mustard, but now, hey, you grow up, you can like that rye bread and that whatever it is that, you know, liverwurst or whatnot, but you can also grow up that you didn't have as a child or even as a young adult. But that, I'm what i'm going what i'm getting after here you guys and it's been off taking a long bit of wind to do it mark but you guys that was the penetration for a while when my heart was one of forty eight i'm not i'm fifty five years old i'm not certain if that fits into the medical law things about limits for age and and what not i'm not certain of my endurance simply such a small eight bug event now if you're out there if you're going to deploy into texas new mexico or for you that that for tonight the area And you're going to be on the ground. And you know what? These things, they spin to the ground. And they tunnel into other things, but they'll come out of the ground. Now with that in mind, if you're crawling, we'll tell you another story. When the machine gun Randy came by, and I've told you about Randy before, and he sat down. And now I've got the ice on my face, Mark. I'm saying, yeah, because it gave me a fat lip. Like somebody just smacked me on the head, on the lip, gave me a fat lip, everything's all swelling. And it never hindered my breathing to any real extent. So with that in mind, we got through it. Randy sitting there telling me about a friend of his who worked in construction and he did lawns in brand new areas whole subdivisions and he went in one day and was installed on his hands and knees and rolling out this sod and disturbed the wasps in the ground yellow jackets in the ground and before he could get clear of them he got stung seven or eight times and he didn't feel good and he went home and laid down and well he showed up the next day you know he was the owner of the company and he was out in the field working and that's how you know he was that kind of The next day in a different area in the same lot, he got hit four times more, Mark. It was only four more things and I'm told Machine Gun Randy related this story to me. I'm told that that man went home, he felt bad, he went home and laid down and died. Now with that in mind you guys, if you're going into the south, one of you, at least one of you should have the atropine. In case you're allergic to bees, because you know what, you might not think you're allergic to bees. Everybody is. to bees to a certain extent. That's why, and I've talked about this in the interim, Mark, everybody is allergic to bees to a certain extent. That's why you get that little wealth and that's why sometimes it swells up a little bit bigger. That's why the venom works. Exactly, exactly. Now, if you're hit by 20 or 40 bees, and you might have been stung by a bee when you were a child and thought nothing of it, you might have developed a slight allergy as you turn to an adult, as you age. But if you're hit by 20 or 40 bees at one time and you've got a slight allergy, and well, 20 or 40 kind of multiplies the effect, doesn't it? One thing I'm urging you to do now, if you're going south, if you have to, you know, twist your pharmacist arm or talk to your cousin who is allergic and get hurt or him or your mother or father who has the atropine pin, the emergency deployment of atropine, because you know, that's an adrenaline thing. And you know what? The thing that got my heart going, Mark, was that It wasn't, you know, I just walked in the house and dang it stung me. I walked in the house and put the system that deployed the adrenaline. And now the adrenaline is what got me. It's the natural body's defense. That atropine, I'm talking with the nurse about it. And you know what? A lot of people when they get stung, if they're allergic, they either don't make enough and that's what the atropine replaces. It gets the adrenaline in you. So, well, you don't succumb to one if you're extremely allergic. or even twenty or forty if you're just average allergic you get you've never can't tell if it is not something to play with you guys when that hornet hit me in the nose i thought well i'm just going to go into a little pulpit on it and in an hour and fifteen minutes and twenty minutes for certain my heart was going to hundred forty eight beats per minute now that's not sustainable for a long time you guys even for a young man mark i just wanted to hammer that home you guys the atropine the the beef thing an adult should be something deploying into the field you guys in the southwest especially for our medics and corpsmen or and again if everybody can carry it everybody should carry it one of the rules is kind of like well let's look at it this way where it's like world war two contrary to what everybody thinks But the individual soldier carried a lot of what the corpsman was going to use to include morphine. We're not expecting you to carry morphine, okay? That's a no. Okay, we know that. But rather than the medics just having 100% or carrying all of what is needed, one of the things that our Pennsylvania militia units did years ago because they are medics, many of them were medics in the National Guard or are medics in the National Guard, They carry, for instance, one saline, one sugar per person, or at least one sugar, one saline per individual, an IV bag with everything, butterflies, a whole nine yards. In addition to that, other supplemental dressings and other equipment, depending on which pouch. Originally they've loaded up an M16 mag pouch, as I mentioned years ago. They of course were able to find other pouches that are a little bigger still about the same domain or the same physical dimension once they're blossomed out once they're filled up Except they have external little side pockets which are nice because if you don't want to mess up or group up the IV bags And what I mean by that is, think about it, you're working on somebody, he's bleeding or she's bleeding and they're injured badly, you're messy. Okay, so anything you can keep cleaner longer is better in general. Remember, we're trying to maintain the highest standard of cleanliness. We're trying to keep the wounds clear. But when it comes to recovering equipment quickly to respond, you need it so it's compartmentalized so that the medic or yourself, you're able to reach to a certain spot and that's where the atropine is. Most of them are auto loaders by the way. Make sure it's towards surface. Now, I'm going to warn you about this because I have seen this as a trainer so many times. It used to be we had 10 people who were designated to practice using the simulator with the entropy in it. Okay, the autoentropy injectors. injectors. Well, what happened is, unfortunately you get the mask. Now this is not going to happen because hopefully you're not in a mask, but it still happens because people get excited. The very thing you're talking about, your heart rates at what level, Don? Oh, mine was at 148 beats per minute, you guys. And that was a nurse that told me that wasn't Don just trying. You think you're getting a little dizzy at that point? A little delirious? A little excited? Yeah, I was trying to concentrate on my breathing. I was trying to take all my soul away from it. well now i want you to inject yourself may see the problem that you're not sure yet but that's the same thing happens though in the in an operation with chemical attack and i've seen guys take the you know this you know towards surface there's one you know they depending on what year it was they had some of the yellow and the rest was green the yellow and was toward the target the yellow and was towards the target they came up with other colors they came up with arrows and still i will remember to this day the guy group they're going through the motions put everything together exactly what's posted staying right there looking college can be takes the auto injector jabs into his life and that needle goes straight to the through the center of his uh... uh... thumbnail goes backwards and it's all springboard so we had a really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really Yeah, that's exactly what it does. Now, it was a neutral, and what they had for the live trainers is actually just as a neutral saline, is all it was. It wasn't an antropine. Needless to say, we don't want to fry somebody's system, you know what I mean? Right. But anyway, the point is that you're standing there and you're watching exactly as you described, Dom. The thing goes through, it ejects, and you see this... What is it goes past? The biggest thing is the idea that like Grandma, no matter who you are, the moment that that one hit through his thumb, he's no longer hanging on to it. Oh no. It's like get it off, get it off, get it off and the hands coming out flat and the needle sticking through the top of the thumb and everybody's like what the heck's wrong with him? You know the other person in the sector, there's 10 guys and they all have their gas mask on, they all got their chem suits on and they're all, you know, they're in the highest mop level you could possibly imagine so they're in their own world. Once you're in a chem suit, you're like in your own world guys and the gas mask too. So, what's interesting is the other people watching are the ones who panic because it's like, oh, whoa, whoa, oh, help him, you know, that kind of thing. So anyway, just something to think about is always focus and in fact study your equipment. And even then, I mean, I don't know, too many people are going to practice self-injecting themselves. So the biggest concern here is you might want to also make sure there's more than one. Well, the thing about it, you guys, here you go, because you've seen it sometimes in the movies. A guy rips open the leg and rips open the pants and jams a needle through. You know, as you point out, Mark, that's near a panic situation. And if it were a particular person and it were a chemical attack or whatnot, and you're thinking, man, this is it. This is going to kill me. Well, again, I was just trying to concentrate through my breathing exercises. But imagine someone that is in that mindset that I'm on the edge of death. there's a reason why that's done automatically and that is a great big needle you guys it'll go right through your and it goes into a big muscle so again you know it just bam and it's done in the movies mostly you see a person grabs it like they would grab the handle of a flat handled cup and they just in their fist grab it in their fist and just slam the needle into the lake and that's all you're expected to do everything else is going to happen by itself if you've got the time well get the can't lay out of the way. You don't want to drive anything into a piercing wound for the infection possibility. Again, in that instant, I'm about to die here and here it is. Some people have succumbed, I'm told, to beasting in less than a minute. You've got maybe 20, if you're extremely allergic, you've got maybe 20 to 30 seconds before it hits you and in that next 30 seconds, if you're extremely allergic and you don't have your Epi-Pin there, you might as well just, you know, right on the chalkboard. He bought the farm. but that's an extreme case and again you guys are i've i'd we are got break from did nine i started this morning period from that the best one any of you to go through that in particular to go through that if you're calling along someplace and time over there is just always looking for you and now you're not in the battle anymore that would remove ending yourself very good now another thing you're to remind everyone is and this this is a point where we've talked about using uh... electric and d c current stun guns also at the new state worked on got it uh... we got that it might be might have a good number but actually was still possibly of assisted now as is pointed out by our friends in the uh... chat room here we there a couple different solutions uh... chicken man of course uh... talking about using mod and excuse me as is pointed out called strange uh... it at work of on Well, the muddier the better, the slimier the better, as we're saying, also as Ron was pointing out here, Ronnie, the other option is tobacco. Now, of course, we've used toothpaste. That was an old one for a long time. But the biggest thing about toothpaste is we're talking the paste kind. We're not talking necessarily the clear, but it needs to be the actual, the flat paste type toothpaste. There again, it's a matter of chemical process, what is put together with. And what was the most common thing that was a bonding... You know, it would be a common element between all of them is the mint, which is possibly what was really the active ingredient that was doing the job, because it was real mint back in the day. A number of different solutions, the idea of anything and everything, you know, when you're in a storm, guys, any light ring will work, and of course, if it's what you got, you try to use it. So, if you have a solution or something that has been used before and it will help to alleviate the pain, draw out the venom, etc., etc., there is an option without cutting anything open. You are not going to do any snake bite work there. Sure. We're just talking topical. We're putting this on to help extract or e-extract the venom, neutralize it to a degree, or alleviate at least some of the trauma in the process while we're still proceeding to get the casualty someplace to where they can get more extensive treatment. And if we have the auto injectors, if you have a syringe that's there that you're able to get a prescription for it, then obviously you don't need one. You need a couple. Again, accidents happen, things get broken, assume the worst, you won't be disappointed. And when you're out in the middle of nowhere, years ago, my father in this very point, my father was not allergic. He could get stung by wasps. I'm serious, guys. He'd be standing there because of the injuries he had in World War II. His nervous system doesn't quite work the way he does. It didn't affect him as far as feeling as much, but one day we were up north, more parallel with where you are, not only on the east side of the state. We were working on the cabin and all of a sudden here it was like Saturday night headed towards Sunday. And, back then, back in the day, back in the late 60s, there wasn't anybody up there. There wasn't any hospital either up toward you. You had to go to Sault Ste. Marie or all the way down to Ann Arbor. And the only allergy clinic in Michigan was in Ann Arbor. So, even if you went to Sault Ste. Marie, whatever they needed would have come from Ann Arbor. And my dad knew this because he had been a paramedic when nobody would have a paramedic was. But he worked with the fire department. And so, we jumped in the car and started heading south. He had never had an allergic reaction, but this thing really started on the neck, upper part of the head. He was sitting in the back seat watching and this thing goes from golf ball size to softball size to heading towards football size. Oh, he had nose. Yeah, and of course, there was no, you know, we got down there and went right to emergency and of course the allergy clinic was right there. Saturday night nobody was around. Everything was shut down back in those days. Things closed at 9 o'clock and there wasn't anything open. That kind of thing. I've seen this before. What was interesting is in my dad's case, most World War II vets, and let's tie this in, the allergy clinic confirmed this and the doctor, actually one came over from the Veterans Administration because he wanted to see the case. It turned out he was doing a survey for the Donative Destruction. And what had happened is my dad had been kamikaze in World War II and he was, of course, in a death ward for 90 days. And while he was there, one shot of penicillin, one shot of morphia in the other arm, one in each arm. Well, back in the day, and it was every hour, every hour they come by and sniff your wounds, check to see if you were dead, and one shot of penicillin, one shot of morphia. Anyway, back in those days, guys, they didn't have disposable needles. Back in those days, they had square needles. That's why when you see Pearl Harbor, the movie, and they try to do all this grimacing about the shots, you got to remember, the needles started out down at about five inches long, and they had a grinder, literally. But you finally ground the needle and then it was square and they weren't rounded needles back then. If they were not careful the person was busy or they were tired or they just didn't care. They could put a burr on that needle on top of you when you were grinding something. Well the thing is, what were they sealing medical vials for injections and inoculations back in that period of time? Beeswax. Every time a man got an injection, he got an injection of beeswax with bees, waste, and with pollen and all kinds of other fun stuff in it. The doctor told me, he said, well, we don't know what it is or how it's working, but everybody in your age bracket, you know, World War II vets, we're seeing some Korean vets because they were still using that technique. The rubber stoppers everybody sees today were not the norm. The reason the beeswax was needed is because, think about it guys, think about the size of the needle. When they jammed the needle into the fluid, they were taking a plug of the wax out every time and of course pulling the serum and then when they were injecting it in you, some of that was getting into you. Sometimes it wasn't, but pretty much everything went into your arm if they put it in the syringe. So, eventually, these guys all were auto-injected, actually were hospital-injected, into their allergies, which is something interesting. The reason I mention pollen is because, think about it, bees were donnies. They eat different things and harvest different things from where Mark is. That's why honeys have different flavors. That's why honeys have different colors, because they harvest all the bees. work off you know corn they work off alfalfa they work off you know roses they work off all kinds of things is it legendary to pull all honey that will never crystallize because that what the p there this is why again it's so critical men again well almost will be in total for yes and we're giving you some basic intel here about a be prepared of the time that i'm not yet be prepared because we don't want to hear about somebody twitching all the way back to the car and then twitching all the way back to the hospital We can make you respond and make people more comfortable with effective response, not reaction. The reaction is on the part of the guy who got stung. He's reacting. Oh, yeah. It becomes literally, you guys, you can get to where you're not in control of the situation. In a situation like that, you think, well, you've loaded up with adrenaline. One fight if need be. That would be true to a certain extent, but your body has already had the oxygen bearing as much. The thing about that is you guys, you're breathing when you get into a situation like that, your breathing cannot keep up, cannot oxygenate the amount of blood that is flowing through your lungs. The blood is flowing faster through your lungs than your lungs even if you are breathing as fast and as deep as you can. You cannot oxygenate, you become into oxygen depth very quickly. Okay? And maybe you've experienced this, but... It's not something, well he's loaded up, let him go over there and beat that guy up, he's loaded up with adrenaline. No, Mark, I even said to somebody, I've walked away from altercations and not been pumped up like that. I mean like three or four minutes worth of ongoing beat down, you know? And not felt pumped up like that. So you guys, you may, from Don's own words, I've never walked in your shoes, but it might not be too much of a stretch much to say you may have never experienced this in your life and I pray that you don't. You've got to think. Don't think simple car first aid kit. For a lot of you guys, remember multiples. If somebody gets a perforation wound, there are certain things, basic rules. If the thing is big enough, you don't pull it back out. Unless it's a tube that's working like a siphon for a beer keg. That's not good. But if it's solid, In many cases, you're better off... This is always something to remember. People will fall on rocks. Guys, there are rocks that are rock shards that will work just like an obsidian dagger. There are sticks. You have nails. You have old construction equipment off in the middle of nowhere. You're dealing with the Wild West. There's stuff that was taken out there and left behind. Part of the environment now could be that rusty old piece of angle iron off an old wheelbarrow stuck upside down. That's where you've got to be careful, especially because you don't know necessarily how it's going to perforate and go in. So you pulling it out, you may not be pulling at the exact same angle of the channel of the approach, and you may not have nicked an artery or cut a vein before. You will go an outbound. Think about it. So with the other consideration, this is going to sound weird. For all of you that are out there in the field, a small set of bolt cutters in the team should be required. A small set, I don't care if they're CHI-COM bolt cutters, the smaller pairs you can buy will do a lot of different work. combined with a simple hacksaw. Oh, that's not going to feel good. No, but it makes you crazy in your life. Yeah, if you got somebody impaled on something, guess what? Get the canteen ready, because you want to keep that metal cool, because you can heat up when you're cutting it. But if you've got to cut something off, or if you have to hack off a piece of wood, these are part of your medic, and they call them actually, they're medic engineer kits. Yep. That sounds weird. I'm not a medic for a reason. Yeah, guys, if you've ever seen, I'm going to qualify this real quick. If you have ever seen a dress, medics, it's actually a short sword for World War I, and it is literally what it sounds like, a short sword. Now on one side it's a cleaving blade. On the other side it was a saw blade. You can use your imagination to what purposes that might have. Okay. Now, the other consideration is if you're in the field, and that's why, for instance, an 18-inch machete is awful handy with a sawback. The present ones that are out by Ontario Knife are a buccaneer blade. In other words, they've got a complete guard for the hand. They're an 18-inch, traditional Ontario, but you flip over the back strap and it has a saw blade. That will serve the same purpose. Why? Well, you gotta be sawing on somebody's leg. That's not what we're talking about. But you may have to cut something off so that you don't worsen the wound. You know, either side of the wound, something where somebody might have run through a channel like a piece of channel iron, a piece of pipe, could be a piece of wood, a dowel. Don't think you're gonna be all just pure q on this leather or we'll pull it back out. Cut it either side of the perforation wound and then you will extract the casualty accordingly. It might be a hunk of his own gun. That's right. Now the other thing is that machete, that utility old engineer tool that was made for the medics back in World War I, is so they could also turn and hack, hack, chop, chop, saw, saw. Let's see, one branch, two branches, somebody's poncho or their canvas shelter half, and you have a... Litter. Yeah. See how that works? You know a stretcher. And you can't carry enough of them. Has anybody out there ever carried? Now there's another one I'm going to throw at you. Have you ever carried a stretcher? Oh yeah. Are they light? You don't want to carry a bunch of them at any given time. No, you carry one. And if you're by yourself, you carry one if you have to. But if you can, you get a buddy. and you work together on that because otherwise it's a fatigue tool it's one of those things where it'd be like you know it's like the Arnold Schwarzenegger with Conan the barbarian you know either if you start wanting to carry it like it's a it's a your your across bar for a crucifixion of something you know like when he was on the tree of woe you know put him on the tree of woe well that's exactly the kind of thing we don't want you to be woeing so instead the idea here is to save you some pain but you can only carry so much guys Let's say you have more than one casualty and the litter just went down the road. Guess what? You better start improvising and adapting and overcoming real quick. Now that one person is going to have to drop one end and the other person is going to have to drag the other kind of like a trap. If all you've got is two men and two casualties and you want to make them someplace else. There's a solution but it's not real comfortable for the guy being dragged and it's not real easy for the operator of the very primitive vehicle. so support tool and technology are critical here and it's something we want everybody be thinking about for the medic especially in the medic is the only one who can carry all the stuff you know that as well i do you heard a toolbox noise not It's spread out amongst the team. This is traditionally how combat operations are set up. By the way, it's like wire cutters, guys. Wire cutters used to be a custom item that was issued to one man or two men in the team. They were part of your table of authorized equipment. When you were going into the field, you determined whether or not you were going to have to draw those tools from inventory, sign for them, and then they give them back when you were done. That was the whole idea. Now granted, don't have to tell me about sticky fingers shopping. That's exactly what everybody did in the military. Eventually, they started looking for what somebody else died holding and carried away. But in the meantime, you usually had to sign for it. Those sergeants out there listening know that setting up a standard operating procedure for patrol operations, that there are certain things that must be done. That's just all there is to it. Anyway, we have a bunch of other stuff going on here, but I wanted medical support backups to backups to backups. At least work in threes if at all possible. At least for the individual doubles. In other words, if something happens. Another thing about these things, these kinds of auto injectors, if you can put them in another armored case, we're not talking a tank case, we're talking plastic carrier. There are a number of different things that will work depending on how big it is. You can find all kinds of plastic tubes at the dollar store or containers that you can improvise with. But you want to make sure these things don't get crushed or snapped or destroyed before they are needed. Which is another thing that is always a consideration. We want to again offer reasonable security and safety in the field. Anyway, I tell you what, we're almost at the top of the first hour. Donny, you may stick around, you've got to go. I got a gold mark, but I was thinking that I would be gone by now. I'm waiting for a mechanic to come by and basically condemn a particular motor for me. I have it in writing. Uh oh, I hear the drums. Is this like branded? Branded. Scored as the one who ran and the offending motor will be brought out. You will, let's see, break its crankshaft and let's see, rip its fan blades from its shoulders. Yeah, that'll work. Yeah. I would have told me he'd be here at quarter. He's on his way home. So in a time frame for him, I don't want to put him out. Very good. But again, you guys, this is a, you've heard the ongoing thing since the spring about. Anyway, before we go any farther, one of the other things I want to remind everybody of too guys is with all the activity going on and we've been warning everybody about this, uh... or and i want to plant this people in afternoon for a reason we've got this whole thing with the u and uh... general ban are going through the senate now it's hanging there everybody is hoping they can get everybody distracted and i far away from the senate as possible so they can wander this thing through on and off business day Now, there are two ways to do it. During the day, while other activities or events are taking place, and then lie, you know, in other words, you just have a couple of ring knockers up there that will give the wink and the nod. They will all be in the know, and they will misdirect and others redirect with four people in the room, four people, four senators. And they will authorize this piece of treaty that is also a piece of toilet paper, okay, for Heinen White. now doesn't mean that legitimate we know better than that but i will remind you as we were talking about this morning about the federal reserve act of the federal reserve act was prepared passed on christmas eve with four people in the senate uh... again on nineteen thirteen yet twenty fourth of december who the hell is in washington on the twenty fourth of december in the senate of the house and then the announcement was it appears as if the income tax amendment is path they didn't even tell you it appears as if and let it go with that and how could appear to get it right here at the very good now for anybody want to challenges have some fun with any fool opens his mouth and says that what i just said isn't true about the date all you need to do is go to a new movement test all that's right we call the you call the coin dealer a coin collector anybody who's involved in the into new movement ism anyway other than the When you go to a coin dealer, ask to look at a bill from a Federal Reserve note from 1914 or 1918 and just read it. Mark doesn't have to do any more. Just read a Federal Reserve note and all they did was take more and more of the contract and conceal it. stupefying everybody about what the currency is in your hand and what it's all about most important here the secretary of the treasury who of course is a conduit with along with the fed and all the others federal reserve is not an employee of the united states government he is an employee of the international monetary fund the secretary of the treasury anybody want to argue that go to united states code and you will not like what you find Another thing I'm sorry, another thing to point out, I know we're getting to the top, to point out is at that time we were operating with two separate pieces of paper money and because of that a lot of people still had trust in the system because tickets in their pockets and their gold certificates in their pockets and the while till they attacked, didn't they Mark? Yep, step by step, created the worrying 20 so they could create the collapse of the end of the decade. and the rest is history trying to create banking crisis which didn't work quite the way they thought nineteen twenty nine in nineteen thirty three uh... fpr fabricated the second banking crisis because the bankers realized america was getting away from them because we were going we're making our own currencies we understood we didn't need the federal reserve america was operating without it and would have operated flawlessly without it why they were even taking the fraudulent reserve notes in and buying certificate legal certificate c two-tier if you could work from the fraudulent one into the real one and then they had to shut the real so again expect this firearms uh... deal to be the same scam it will either be during about the non-business day or it will be in the and of a session of a you know a proper particular day have between nine and eleven o'clock if it's on a friday it could be as early as nine if it's monday through friday it could be up to eleven o'clock at night and what they'll do is wait till just before the gavel was cracked and they will turn around and bring business back up and online with the senate there will be four of these parasites standing there the shysters will then pushed this thing through it is a general ammunition recieve in a reloading that you can't reload you can't have ammunition you can't have all of weapons everything that is left will be registered but only before the groans it won't be for any of the year will be free people anyway and that's the whole agenda sold that for that to know short that's the short version there's a lot more to it we all know what if they get it through the senate and this is why we need to be kept burning the senate right now We need to be watching that cage non-stop 24-7 and not waiting for C-SPAN to cover it guys because C-SPAN will jump to something else when something critical comes into the Senate or the House. 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