August 26, 2010
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Mark Koernke and Don Betcher discussed firearms training, marksmanship, and preparedness on August 26, 2010. The show featured a detailed historical account of Wild Bill Hickok's gunfighting techniques and emphasized the importance of weapon proficiency through practice, Airsoft training, and muscle memory development. Koernke criticized mainstream media attacks on shooting programs like Appleseed, defended the quality of patriot-led training initiatives against government standards, and addressed internal movement divisions and misinformation. The hosts also discussed the limitations of controlled commercial radio compared to independent patriot broadcasting, using Coast to Coast AM as an example of censorship.
- firearms training
- marksmanship
- wild bill hickok
- appleseed program
- airsoft training
- second amendment
- militia
- weapon proficiency
- preparedness
- patriot movement
- coast to coast am
- controlled media
- michigan
- gun owners of america
- nra
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It's easier to find than my birth certificate. I had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat, and speaking low to me, he said. We fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free. and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate. And your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press and you pay attacks you do not owe to please the IRS Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold you trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame You've taken Satan's number you traded in your name You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise. Take a stand. Defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land. Preserve our great Republic and each God given right. And pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch in tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave is to still the land of the free? And good afternoon ladies and gentlemen this is the afternoon intelligence report time. Mark Quirky and I'm Donald Betcher. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories. Central, Southwest, East and Northeast. Ladies and gentlemen you're listening to us on... libertytreeradio.4mg.com, pbn.4mg.com, and we are on live 365, then go to Liberty Tree Radio. We're also on AM and FM micro stations, CB base stations, and ultra net technologies, both east and west of the Mississippi, along with southern and central Alaska. We're on the Hallmark Network on the eastern seaboard from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida. From the bottom of Florida across the up to the Gulf of Mexico. Headed towards Louisiana, Texas, Oklahoma. Ooh, a whole bunch of Nebraska. The third of Wyoming. And as we know then, many, many other locations all across the plains. And we're also on the, oh, that's right, the Golden Spike Project on the eastern part of the country, all across the Smokies. and the Smoky Mountains. So for those of you listening, let's say good afternoon, it's been blue skies, it's been warm, it's been busy here in Michigan, we've gotten a lot accomplished today so I can't complain and it's been a long day. But Don, what is the date still for this beautiful sunny day in Michigan? Oh it is a beautiful day, this 26th August year of our Lord 2010. It's a beautiful day again, 26th August, ought to tell you what, it was chilly when we woke up here this morning Mark, it was in the 40s. It made me recall the end of August last year. You guys remember we told you an accounted day by day. We had two nights here in mid-Michigan in the end of August. That didn't do a whole lot of people's crops real good. But it's a beautiful day, Mark. I want to roll right into something here that I want to continue through this week, you guys, the front of this five o'clock hour. Monday we talked on Manfred and day we talked on Wyatt. And yesterday we talked on Frank Hammer. back in history you guys today. We're going to talk about that while Bill and I'm going to go right to it because I don't want to change a word of this Mark and I know I hate to be a reader you guys I really do I did that a lot back in ninety six. I can't take a word away from this. The author is Jim Wilson and you know you don't have to look far because this comes out of the same getting combat shooting tips from Guns and Ammo it was printed in 1990. I'm going to run right to text is great. I don't want to again I don't want to change a word. The author said, there is no more fabled gunfire than Wild Bill Hickok. We believe those fables. He was truly the prince of pistol shooting over his own shoulder while fighting. On another occasion, he allegedly, six times with a single action called, serious doubt such yarns, doubt that Hickok was in combat. Butler Hickok was born in Troy Grove, Illinois on May 27th, 1918-37. As a young man, he wandered west and found work on it here at various times. He was a army scout. a deputy US Marshal, an elected sheriff, and a city marshal. About his life he was a womanizer and an inverter at Gambler. Here's that Hickok killed about seven men during his lifetime. A couple of these fights are really worth noting. Why on July 21st, their 1865, Hickok encountered Dave Tut in the town of Putton Hick, Hickok falling out over the affections of a woman. Card games came to a head on the 21st when they met downtown. Was standing from 75 yards away from Hick when he pulled a pistol and began shooting. Hickok using a two-handed hold on his own pistol and hit. Troy, you guys, I turned a page here and two pages stuck together, so killing him instantly. In 1871, Hickok, city marshal of Abilene, Kansas, painted on their saloon for a woman, Ben Coe, at about 9 p.m. on the evening of October in 1971. On the street, celibately shooting his pistol, began almost immediately. Someone running up behind him, turning and shooting in 1988. 71 not another man butler hickock was using a brace was known to have hope maybe pistols in the states code of territory said that while bill was bolt navies of risk brace of Navy there's that hickock used as belt each morning by shooting at a tree near their camp it's also hickock's way of a freshly voted piss fresh ammunition is still in all we could go on there's more text attention on the front sight see the advantage of two-hand obvious advocate of regular practice important now as they were in hickock's people and that's all out of I will read one more paragraph. So there you go you guys, another take-ins. And even when the bullets are flying around you, as mentioned in one of these gunfights, when they're flying around you, two take aim, breathe and squeeze and mix in a different thought. Naturally, my man falls down so large. And it hurts. Yup. Most important is that you make them hurt before they make your weirdest discussion. Well, you know, I don't plan on getting shot. Well, nobody really plans on getting shot. I can't think of anybody who plans on getting shot. So you kind of remind everybody of that part of the program is understood. We know how that works. I don't really plan on hoping not to get shot. Well, hoping, and I can understand the hoping part, but the planning part is a little difficult because unfortunately... Well, you're going to do it, Bob. Not a whole lot, yeah, you can do it. Well, the idea is if you get really good at what you're supposed to be doing, chances are you'll be doing okay. Then you have to invoke a portion of that rifleman's creed. He'll shoot my enemy before he shoots me. And one of the interesting things too is remember the skill level with a lot of these guys as would be pointed out is that they took seriously their shooting to begin with whatever they got into. And this is something that we often have a hard time when people go why would you want to do fill in the blank you know that whatever it is. And it's like well bottom line is if you want to survive what it is you're going to get into here you better get really good at it real fast. If not, you're going to have some significant issues that you're not going to be able to deal with when the time comes, not the least of which would be terminal or whatever. Take your pick. We get into some unique conversations about how to prepare. One of the things, as I've mentioned many times, is the use of Airsoft. Airsoft, if you want to spend the port to people, you can spend whatever money you could possibly imagine on Airsoft. Something that we would point out. A lot of people don't realize, those are just toys. No, they're not. They are not toys in any way, shape, or form. They are replicas. They are replicas and in fact very, very useful tools. Something that needs to be taken into consideration. What can we do with the tools of the trade that are made available, especially where they are so economical? Well, in this case, Airsoft allows you to fire nonstop quietly, even with a mirror. Well, shoot over the shoulder. The guy in the bar couldn't have been too far. That's right. You should probably imagine that. Yeah, you never know. There could be any number of, you know, considerations there that develop, but it is a card game. That's true, too. But let's run back to that unintended because I want to mix in part of your thinking, Mark, because, you know, if you've ever played, but if you've ever done that and you don't have distinct uniforms, you might find you shot one of your own guys, you know. Anybody on the other side for a moment? Because, again, they didn't have any identifying marks. But let's run back to that gunfight that was just described. into that guy's brain pan didn't he just that he just killed it just in a number of times bring it to you like this you guys if you want to bring targets like that advantage of small game season every shot will be different it won't be like shooting skeet and it won't be like shooting what's the other thing that skeet trap okay it won't be like that everything's so pretty in the real world almost exactly I know if I knock a glass probably gonna break by the time it hits the ground that's I can see into the future but now let's go back he turns I mix that in with shooting. When I bring up shooting something that is kind of totally against gun safety, which was exhibited here just moments ago in the story, recognize your target. And when I talk about rattle, remember this, you might have heard this before, see the target, shoot the target. And that's what needs to happen many times in a combat situation. As exhibited here, completely in the wrong direction, and as exhibited, that man carried that for the rest of his life. When you're shooting those bunnies and birds, and I know it's a reach from one to the other. I go back to it though. When you get to that, see the target, shoot the target. Target immediately, shoot the target immediately. Climb your way too. You can get there through practice. See the target, shoot the target. And this is part of what was exhibited here in this story in front of him. The man shooting at him was neutralized. No question of what he perceived to be a threat. You don't ever want to hear that. And I don't need to do that. I don't want to hear that. But we can't live long enough. Apparently that deputy made that big, big mistake and the best thing he ever learned. And I don't mean to make jest to that identify. Remember when Commander and the young guy there, he wasn't even supposed to go, he was tying an armband on everybody's arm? Even something that simple might just be between seven enemy today and it don't matter, you know, you can land a fine your target. Knowing what you're shooting at can be fatal. To neutralize the target, but when you neutralize one of our boys by This gets back to the whole issue too, again, knowing where your allies and friends are in a shooting situation or a shooting environment. One of the other things is watch your backstop. You've heard that term, but most people haven't had it elaborated. Pay attention to what's beyond what you're shooting. You may have to hold your fire, or you may not want to, but you may have to hold your fire or place or change the placement of your shot because of what's behind or near what it is that you're going to be engaging. just as you can go through physical objects to get to whatever is firing at you on the other side. Example is if somebody's in a half wall and they're popping up Just to be safe, you can pull into, if you know the constructed materials, the environment that you're in, you can fire straight through the wall into the target and probably be more effective. Also pretty nasty too, but more effective in general. You don't have to wait for the aggressor to re-expose themselves depending upon what the nature of the material is that is constructed. There's nothing that's going to slow that projectile down enough, especially when you're using main battle rifle cartridges. That's something that we don't even want. They don't even want us to think about on this side is the incredible penetrating capabilities of most of what you're carrying as opposed to what the other side is carrying until they get up into, well then there's always the argument, well we can use mortars and they got any tank weapons. Well we'll have their mortars and their anti-tank weapons and everything else they've got if it's bigger, yes, what if, what if, what if. But in reality, what you face, what you face, what you face in front of you is your first concern. How do I neutralize the target and what do I have the potential to do as opposed to his potential? But that's also an issue with regard to training. What is the difference between some of those special warfare units and even conventional for a regular leg unit or conventional forces? Well, it's just repetition on the range. Are they willing to spend an unlimited amount of money on you if you are, say, in a special warfare unit? Yes. Do they do that for the regular soldier in the regular line unit? No. In fact, most guard, most reserve units, it's a big event to go to the range once a year, maybe twice a year, is then a big woohoo. And even then, half the people are... But of course, they have a designated rifle on the rack that they're going to be issued out, and it would be kind of nice to make sure that weapon's zeroed. And the person who's serious about his task will know that he has a designated weapon in the armory that's his. How well does he know that weapon? In most cases, not very well at all. Think about that. And that's one of the problems. That's why you'll find carbon, you'll find oxidation, you'll find damaged parts. You'll find that some weapons are malfunctioning and haven't even been reported or aren't even known. and having inspected armory after armory after armory and done spot checks and having pulled weapons which is something we have to do. We randomly pull them. We don't select a certain click of weapons that we know will be the best. The one on the top of the pile. That's probably going to be clean. Yeah, we're looking for the rest. We're looking into the rest to see what's going on. Well, again, the whole point is it's proficiency based upon training. And a lot of you that are listening, emphasizing that have you actually dealt with or at least considered any kind of weapons training today. This day, have you done something? Have you taken half an hour? Just 15 minutes, half an hour, picking up a personal weapon that you have, making sure it's clear, and actually practicing just loading and unloading the weapon. Only in the combat method. In other words, dropping the magazine, reinserting the mag, and reengaging the weapon. Now, to be safe, It would be good to have some training rounds for that purpose. So look for some snap caps, or you can make up some rounds that have no primers, no powder, but do have a projectile. I would also notch them, and I would actually plug the primer pocket with a piece of rubber. Make your own snap caps. The purpose behind this is so that you actually insert around, you're using the magazine, you're functioning with the weapon, you're interlocking, you're interacting with the weapon. The other option is to go the other direction we mentioned earlier which is airsoft. And by the way guys, you can find airsoft weapons that you have to have a score book to determine whether or not it's the actual weapon you have in your hand. There is no way to tell the difference with many of these airsoft. The quality is purely a matter of price. What are you willing to spend? That's what you'll get. Now even the inexpensive Airsoft, $10 a piece, $7 a piece, $15 a piece, are still acceptable training aids. They're just the lower end in cost and quality training aids condition. Of course, the equipment will vary. They will perform to specification, but again, you're going to be a little more careful with them. You're going to be a little more cautious with them. You're going to have to be very specific when instructing individuals when they're using their training aids what the limitations of the training aid are. But it's still a priceless tool for range familiarization, for range qualification. And to get you up to a certain point of proficiency, muscle memory as much as anything else. That AK that you've got that's an Airsoft matches the AK that you've got that's real. You look at it, you see it, it's familiar, you get actual visual subconscious memory lock too on top of everything else, which is another good thing. So it's purely a matter again of what level you want to achieve. That determines how much you're going to spend on the training support. The example, let's have some, oh here's something you're hardly ever here right now other than when we're asking you to support the network, some audience participation. Close your eyes. If you're not driving, heavy equipment or washing the dishes, tending the dog or the children. Close your eyes. Don't go over and get your gun. I can't tell you to move. Can you feel it? Do you know where your hand lays in that space? About how far within where that finger fits into the trigger guard and how that hand holds. Close your eyes. Pick up your gun. That's what you're talking about, my familiarization. If you've just done it and you recognize your gun, You're where you should be. And if you don't recognize your gun in your mind, close your eyes, pick up your gun. You need to work on that because, you know, the close is kind of like, soldier, you're going to take that handgun apart with this blindfold on and you're going to put that handgun together and when it goes back together, it will function properly. Am I right, soldier? Yes, sir. You are, sir. And I will do it now, sir. Close your eyes and pick up your gun. Can you feel your gun in your arms, in your hands? That's what you're after, isn't it, Mark? You know, interestingly enough, the uh... the most fascinating part about that this concept is is watching people were actually responses that people have given and what they've said about these young people were being taught how to use and how do you do maintenance or do whatever you'll break down the weapons disassembly of the air fifteen uh... on youtube and on few flicks and you know they're being posted in real whatever video option itself there you put this allied you should check it out guys got a lot of good stuff on it and should put an account of and pitch in and help them out They need our support, need to see that happen. One of the reasons is because it's a training option. Where can you go where you can find 100,000 examples of pretty much everything you've always had questions about? Well, one way or another, even though some you may agree with, some you may not, you can go to YouTube, UFlex, Google Video. There's all kinds of databases out there on many, many different systems. And one of the things that is impressive is you've got these nine-year-olds, 11-year-olds, 13-year-olds, who are under the clock. and are unable to break down the weapon and reassemble the weapon in record time. No matter what the weapon is, it's a weapon of choice. Also, performance with the weapon. Nine-year-olds, ten-year-olds, when they grow up, it is already completely automatic for them to know how to handle a weapon. It is an interest, hopefully will remain a part of their life. But it is now fixed into their memory pod and there's nothing they can do. There's nothing bad guys can do to drive that out. It's like riding a bicycle. It's not really even a novelty for them anymore. It is fun. It is something because they are able to participate with dad and mom and other family members and also people that are in the sport. that this person or these young people are able to perform better than the average adult out there. Right now, by the way, I don't know if you caught this, some of our people have been mentioning this in a few emails. We've been taking a look at some of the propaganda. The last couple days, the New York Times, the Communist News Network, and a couple others have been doing a bunch of anti-shooting pieces. What a surprise. And they've been attacking the Apple Seed program. What a surprise. On top of that, of course, mentioning Huttari, etc., a bunch of other things tied in, but also about the whole idea that this is evil, this is bad, the people shouldn't know how to use their weapons, and they shouldn't be marksmen. Rifle marksmanship is evil. You know what? We need to find out who did the articles, who backed them up, and just go beat the stunt out of them with a wet noodle. Take your pick. If you find something other than a wet noodle, that would be cool. But whatever. We need to start dealing with this problem accordingly. It's one of those things where everybody is tired of these fools. talk them down. The idiots don't have a clue. On the one hand, they will lament about safety and they'll lament about understanding. These guys are all stupid. They don't know their arms and they don't know their weapons and they can't handle them. Hell, the people that are at the Apple Scene Program are three steps above the average person that's a company uniform right now. That's the whole point. We're producing, we've always have produced, we're producing better quality than the government and we always have. And the socialists produce such a poor quality product, we better do that or our country won't be safe. It's that simple. All the standards continue to improve standards. They create more hodgepodge BS's attached. No, it's like the one sheriff said about his deputies, well, we ought to go 350 hours of classes. Yeah, and most of it's absolute BS that has nothing to do with reality because somebody came up with some full degree that the public fool system and the college system could feed off from. That's it. It has nothing to do with common sense. It will have nothing to do with anything that will truly apply to their job, but it helps to create an attitude. And it's part of that us-them attitude that has driven them farther and farther away from the American people and made them more alien every day. Gee, what a surprise. And more global scam-oriented, which is the other half of the deal. Well, this brings in the schism, Mark. Having a sheriff, a county sheriff, they're on the ground saying, I've got all these people here but I don't know what to do. They haven't had that 300 plus hours so he can't call them a deputy. I thought a sheriff deputized somebody on the spot. Oh absolutely he can, that's the whole point. So he can't do what you do with him. That might be the guy that could solve it. He's not there I'm saying, right? He might be the guy that, the guy standing right there, might be the guy that can fit problem. He's got all the tools and everything but he's not their boy. They just watch out and we've seen this. and continue interestingly enough now one of the things that we can see on the horizon here the the course the uh... bad guys they've got a whole bunch for the programs that they're pointing and not a surprise as we all know what's happening but uh... it is interesting that uh... this wave or again the sort of way that there were it's really poorly written somebody even even some people are a quasi liberals uh... word looking at some of the The thing is, actually, it's bordering on the edge of childish, but it's the kind of thing that you're going to have to expect from the quality of what the other side has to work with, I guess, the lack thereof. It's something that people have a hard time... This is the best they have to try and throw at us. You know, we bring this up to people over and over again, it's like, yeah, I know, it's pretty sad, isn't it? And they're like, well, yeah, but they have so much power. Have you actually dealt with any of these people? Anybody out there, you know, taking a look at what it is that everybody's supposed to be so afraid of? It's like potluck. Now granted, they just spent a whole bunch of money on potluck trying to make him look more like a silk purse. A saw ear into a silk purse. Ain't going to happen. But it is interesting. They must have had a whole busload of somebody probably coming from holly weird just for the purpose of trying to desperately modify his hind end. Okay? In more ways than one. Get that hind end. Anyway, it was a San Francisco Hollywood crowd. Anyway, the interesting thing is that this demonstrates what we've been talking about, that the bad guys are listening people. They know what's going on. They understand that people are actually listening to what we're saying, then walking over, click, click, click with their fingers, let their fingers do the walking through the Internet pages. They're plugging in and looking at what's happening, and they're like, man, you're right. These characters are a bunch of goofballs. And the other half of the question is, why in the hell are we afraid of these fools when they can't handle themselves? They can't handle life in general anyway. Why in the hell are we letting them pull any of us around by the nose? Well, everybody's looking at more and more of what's going on with the socialists as a whole. And I think they realize that the chick is up. The only option they have is to, as we warned before, go for the gusto, which is what it, obviously it appears that's where they're headed with this nonsense. to try and go after the weapons, go after historically the traditional elements of America with regard to firearms, which by the way is being picked up heavily by a lot of young people. We're seeing another generation plug in, which is really cool. It's not great for the bad guys and they know it, which is why they're trying to re-engineer things again and they're going at it with a reckless abandon. But the quality just isn't there. That's the part everybody's catching on to, the lack of quality. And I think it's going to be rather interesting to see how this whole thing pans out in the long run because one of the things that's happening is we're seeing a lot of people come into our camp that before might have been like, well I don't think that's really what they meant. They wouldn't be attacking us. They won't do that to fill in the blank. And now they're finding out that, oh yeah, not only that, but they're not worried about it. Everybody's going like, well they're flumping us all together. Do you think that if tomorrow you denounced anybody else in any other organization or institution that somehow they would love you? Anybody out there stupid enough to think that way? Well as soon as you leave the flock, as soon as you stand away from the crowd, isolate yourself, going to beat what they used to call in Argentina. The shooting institutions, because there's more than one here. Now the NRA is useless. I mean as far as that goes, we know the NRA, they'll flop over so fast to make your heads run. They'll puff up, they'll make all this noise. And the moment that all of a sudden somebody turns, looks at them, they wet their pants, they flop over on their backs, and they, you know, they, you know, where do you want to kick me? In the crotch or the head, please go ahead. And they allow themselves to be kicked. Anything to keep their big glasses. Yeah. Whereas on the other hand, like GOA or a lot of other people that are out there, the Apple Seed program, which is very independent, is doing a fine job. And by the way, the other interesting thing is some idiots, look at some of these comments, some of these idiots made these nice comments because they didn't like this, you know, they picked this one guy that's doing this stuff over here implying that their apple seed program is different than that other apple seed program. Well that's part of the divide and conquer BS and if somebody doesn't learn to shut up and just, you know, I mean there's where everybody needs to turn on that fool and like why don't you just back down, shut up and don't say a word if you don't have anything good to say. See that's the one thing everybody needs to learn in their own ranks. If somebody is going to claim something, I want to see it in black and white now. I want a who, what, where, when. I want a report. I want it written down. I don't want to hear any hearsay. I don't want to hear somebody say somebody heard, somebody said they didn't like a person, somebody said that they think this. Because, you see, guys, it's wasting our time. wasting our lifetime. I have to address this again today because in general, do you know how many times and how many BS stories were generated while I was gone? You don't think that I don't know about all the stuff that was generated? Oh, and please don't get me going about the Chinese robotoids south of the border. A million Chinese robotoids waiting to invade across the border. Why do the Chinese need robots when they have a billion people they've got to kill off? You know what I mean? Has anybody ever thought this through? You don't need, if you have a population, the Chinese have lots and lots and lots of bodies they need to throw somewhere and get rid of if they want to bring up the standard of living and thin out their own population. They don't need a million robotoids, but at the same time, the same character that was generating that BS, a supposed Soviet, was busy backstabbing. Well, of course it's easy to backstab somebody when they're locked up or when they're away and they can't be able to figure, oh, they'll probably kill him. They'll never hear about this. How can anybody say anything contrary? And you know that there were fools who were stupid enough to lap that stuff up like a dog eating its vomit. And they repeated the BS, except that then all of a sudden, well, Mark didn't die. Darn! Well, it was hoped. They were hoping, because then they could lie through their teeth and backstab and of course, you know, when you're backstabbing a dead, you know, a dead body, it's real easy to get away with it. You know what I mean? Dead men tell no tales. Yeah, or if you're all the way across the country. Yeah, away from somebody else. You can do the same thing and vice versa. Back and forth and back and forth. Well, you know what? Put it in paper. Put it on writing. Extend date, date, time, place. Not any innuendo. Date, time, place. See, I just like this character that we had that was the shyster that was there that was trying to stir stuff up with Huttari. Guys, everybody had pegged this person. The idea was that there were people that were asking questions. And the idea was that the person was to be isolated and progressively was being isolated. Now, what happened in between there? Mark does not have control over every minute of everybody else's life, and you all know better than to say so. So, people made decisions as to how they thought they were going to deal with the problem and or isolate the problem to observe who was in contact with that person. And we won't have the whole picture until we get the guys, you know, back. That's as far as the last bits and pieces. But we have a whole lot of other information that's available. Now, another example, activity operations. Does everybody think they know everybody else and send a f***ing element of the Patriot effort in their respective parts of the country? You know how many people have militia formations sitting right side by side each other in many cases the other one group has never met the other group. Yeah I can even recall just a week or two ago and it happens constantly all over the place where we said well I know everything that really you do I would never say that there's there's how many million people in the state of Michigan million Not a few people. We reach thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands. We reach millions of people around the planet right now and around the United States. Millions and tens of millions, I'm sure. The echo and the ping that goes out in so many different ways and so many passive ways with so many people listening. All you've got to do is do a search on Intel Report and do it on Yahoo or Google or wherever. It's on the Intelligence Report. take a look at how many variations not on what we are we print what we do because we only do so much guys little we have liberty to radio pb n and we have you know what you flicks and we have you string for outlets that are officially with us now you go through in that search and you look to see how many other different ways you are able to find information about us consider this that those are all in i'm looking at this last night down i counted six hundred and eighty and i stopped coming at this point i was like okay there's one okay there's one i start marking it down i had six hundred eighty different outlets that are playing the intel report that are official you know like other we only have one of the beneficial for somebody else and people commenting on it like coming to program from four days ago or coming up on program from ten days ago and it's not us But they're hearing it and there's at least a hundred different people commenting in the comment sections. You know scanning and doing a quick count. One nice thing about the icon, little icon image next to a person's name guys, is when you're doing what we call a cattle survey, where you're just doing a quick count of cows, you know you do a guesstimation. I wonder how many cows are out there? There's no lumping trick that cowboys used for years based on the size of an animal. Well, you do the same thing based on color. You can do the same thing when you're scanning. I do a quick scroll straight down the line. I'm looking to see how many different icons, like a little cat, little mouse, little bird, little girl, little girl, big girl, little girl, blank face, whatever, you know, psychedelic picture, and they're different. What you do is you watch for different images. Well, when you count 60, 70, or 100 different images, that means you've got 60 or 100 different people right there that are just in the comments section. It doesn't count all the people that are listening. You see how that works when you're calculating manpower, when you're calculating bodies? Think about this. How many people do we actually reach? And yet, I can walk out here and there will be somebody new that I can reach today in the community right here where I've lived for how many years? How about all my life? And there's somebody else that says, well, there's radio? Really? Oh here, yeah, go check it out. Oh cool. And then we get feedback because we get somebody like what? The next driveway over, the next field over, the officer goes, oh I found out about this, I've had this happen a hundred times. There's this radio program and it's on and it's called the Intel Report and there's this guy, and it's like really? Oh really? Did you listen to it, Mark? Yeah, I'll tell you what, does the program sound like this? Good evening ladies and gentlemen, this is the evening intelligence... Oh! I ain't got a minute! Hey Dad. We got in here. Go ahead. Yeah, no, something else I wanted to bring up. Really cute is when we see these people come up out of the woodwork who, you know, decided they don't want to be involved with anything anymore and it's too risky and blah blah blah. And then they come up and they want to start bashing. People who are upfront and doing stuff right now like well, they're doing it the wrong way blah blah blah and it's like Okay, well, where have you been and are you doing it better? Yeah, that's one of the first questions I got to ask and we have people coming up who are doing this because it's like okay I thought you were stepping out of the limelight and it was too dangerous for you to be here Why are you? Back now all of a sudden starting, you know, basically BS Well, and there again, it's like we've heard this before. I'm going to Costa Rica or I'm going to Venezuela or I'm okay. Goodbye What no wait a minute. I'm going I'm really important. Are you okay? Well, you're feel you're so important that you're gonna flee the country and go somewhere else. Goodbye Well, but but but and you know, I'm I normally wouldn't you'll be like and I wouldn't normally be doing the pointy the finger thingy But let me give you an example. We've been talking about this last couple of weeks is everybody remember Art Bell on Coast to Coast. Now Art Bell when he first came up on radio guys, and again I'm not meaning, I talked right, I'd say this right, I'd ask questions to him right to his face if he could get to him. And again the reason is just think about what happened. a couple of decades. Art Bell comes up, he actually covers pro-patriot issues, he was talking about everything else, New World Order this, all that. Now all of a sudden he gets picked up by somebody and everything is an untouchable subject except for UFOs and Bigfoot. That's how coast to coast develops. Now the interesting thing is that then he decides that he's not just going to step down and retire, he's just actually going to leave the country. Now, people gave him massive quantities of material. I wouldn't normally, but I'm just going to go through. There's an example of a shopping list thing. Massive quantities of material. There's very little of anything that he ever had to purchase, and anything and everything you can imagine. We have knickknacks, widgets, inventions, batteries, radio technology you could only dream of. And all of a sudden it was going to all be either, you know, it was going to all be sold and given, you know, sold because he was going to leave the country. Goodbye to everybody. You know, go urinate up a rope. And it was like, huh? Well, then all of a sudden, rather than retire and actually quit, they made a special coast-to-coast program on the weekend and he was talking over there and all was really great over in the Philippines, although it was really hot. Well, we don't know, that's tropical. But anyway, all of a sudden, the bad guys, because he was in a foreign country, they started dropping a dime on him and they started telling the locals that he was an agitator, he was a communist maybe. and blah blah blah blah blah and all of a sudden mr bell was getting a new few remember listening to sound radio on and off uh... he was getting death threats and he was looking dangerous and collect united states and honey i'm coming home and all of a sudden he goes i'm back and it's like of i thought you left And it's like, what are you doing here? That was really my position on it. It's like, you know, you left. You told everybody how, well, it's not safe here anyway and things are falling apart and it's the end of the world as we know it and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So I'm leaving. But then it's like, we're all on back, and after having basically urinated on everybody, to turn around and come back and drop up, plop yourself in the middle of everything and just expect, I really do believe that he thought he was going to probably push George Nori back off the air. And yeah, we're talking about another network. I don't hardly ever do this, but the thing is, Nori had actually established himself in the position. He has done well. He brought up some other unique subjects. He is a little more open, but only as open as he allowed to by whoever it is that actually owns the company. He couldn't talk the way we're talking on the air about anything. Period. It has to be pre-approved. There's already an advance format. Whatever they see, if you try to bring it up on the air, it isn't going to happen. There's a screener there that makes sure that only the subject matter. If you don't sound like you're somebody they want to bring up because you might be dangerous because you sound like you think, then you're not going to be brought up on the air at all anyway. I'm describing not just them. I'm talking about commercial radio in general too because we've explained this to everybody over the years. Guys, when you call into a radio program, the screener is, what does he ask you? Oh, who are you? And they punch a name up. What do you want to say? Well, gee, I don't think I have to repeat. I don't have to tell you. Oh, well, thank you. Click goodbye. If you try to call back in, your number is already flagged on the computer so that you won't get back in. But if you do tell them, they put it in a pecking order. Now you may have been the first person to call in, but they don't like the angular direction so they're going to stack you. You could be the first one to call in, but all of a sudden there's a whole bunch of other callers and you're calling number 57. And the word cold day in hell before you come up. It's cold day in hell time before you get up on the air. That's how it works. And trust me, not only does the screener see this, but whoever the host is, is looking at the same feed on a monitor right in front of him. So he can actually flag and tag. Well, I need somebody, you know, like if he wants to engineer it, I don't think this person is smart. Yeah, we'll have this person up. See how that works? or whatever, or they want to be derogatory so they can attack a person, or attack a subject and attack, they'll bring a certain person up and then they'll stack it so that none of you will be able to respond while they have 20 other people that are antagonistic to the person they just allowed to be up for a few minutes. You see how that works? So this is why, that's the difference between Patriot broadcasting in general and what you see in the controlled media. And unfortunately, I mean, 100 and some affiliates, the Coast to Coast Program, if you can talk about UFOs until you're blue in the face, of course, if you talk about UFOs, if I were to tell you about all the UFOs, they would kill me. Well, let me tell you about all the UFOs for the next three hours. Well, they're manufactured by the government, and it's a conspiracy, and they'll use them again. I'm sorry, that caller got cut off. He must have hung up on us. Anyway, I think we have a caller. Another caller. Who do we have? George in Texas. Hey George. You forgot about ghosts. They talked about ghosts. Oh, ghosts, dude. That's another one. I love it when they want to... I know, I've got to just talk about this one. It's like, okay guys, we're ghost hunters and we're going to find ghosts. But the only way to find ghosts is we have to send each of our people out alone into a different room on the Queen Mary. Then they find sounds. Wait a minute. You mean if five of us don't go together and you're the sensitive that the four of us can't watch and we can listen to the sound together? Oh no, no. We all have to go alone and separately. We all come back with special sounds. The word flim flam. Sorry, but it's just me. No, I'm the first to say that. Go ahead, no, please. Now Houdini came up in the 20s and 30s in the late 1900s. There was an act that was touring Europe and this guy, he would tell you right on stage, he's going to conjure up. Helper would, I've told you this before, this isn't a story of Europe saw this act. Many, many people saw this act. It appeared as if it was magic, but he told everybody he'd conjure up his helper to do this. One day and Houdini talked to people who witnessed the act before this and people who witnessed the act on the day that this magician conjured up his and then appeared argue with him on stage and then his invisible helper him and people witnessed that so we can talk about ghosty George and we can talk about all kinds of things but you know that I don't want to go there I don't think he was much help. I had my own experience but this is not the proper format for it. Right, well you know, interestingly enough, it's not that there aren't fascinating things that happen. We talk about it randomly, bringing stuff like that into the image because everybody has seen something unique in their life, period. There's no way we can deny that. It can be many different subjects. But my point is that if you take that same program where I like the I'll tell you that, if I talk about UFOs they'd kill me. If you turn around and say, oh, well then we don't have any problem talking about the New World Order. No, no, because then they'd kill me, would be what Nori would have to say, or at least they'd fire him. Because if you talk about, I mean, think about the format, and this is why. You can tell what's not important by what they allow to be spoken in a controlled format, which is absolutely regulated as a corporate in a business interest. Which is what you see with that. That's why I'm saying is you can actually use it as a litmus to identify what it is that really isn't all that critical to what's going on generally. And especially if it's weezer, catastrophe, disaster, we're all going to die, it's futile to resist. I mean like 2012, you can talk about, they love having you talk about 2012. Of course before it was 2000, and I can even point that out that if you go back through the archives of these types of programs, It was 2000. 2000, 2000, Mayan 2000, Mayan Mayan 2000, and then all of a sudden 2000 came and went. It was like, oh no, no, wait a minute. We felt like I always joke. You know, we cut down the trees and we found that extra hallway with all those extra tablets. We misread it. It's 2012. Now they had to put, you know, they tried to put it out so you have enough time to keep up the momentum and then still keep everybody, you know, happy, so to speak. Now, the next thing is that, like I said, what are you going to do? Cut down another set of trees? If we don't make it beyond 2012, what are you going to do anyway? If they keep doing that, eventually they'll say find the panel that says, see beginning. Yeah, go to front. The circle is now complete. I don't need to cut any more stones. Stone number one begins where stone number 489 ended. So what works fine? But that's the difference. And then again, like I said, the people who it's so terrible or it's the end or I'm just not going to come back. Well then, goodbye. I can't see the sense and then you have to ask what is the purpose behind that. And I get to the point where it has to be actors purpose. You know, actors mission. Because otherwise why would you do that? In other words, why would you be in the Patriot Movement if you were in the Patriot effort if the idea is to become a green weenie at a given point and all of a sudden, I'm so scared. It's like Blair Witch Project on steroids. They've got UFOs and they've got ghosts. Oh my goodness. They've got rock circles too. I get a lawnmower too, but don't worry about that. The Motham Creature and Motham Maryland or whatever? Well, those are things that I don't even have a problem with because some of that is history. Where did it come from and how are they feeding on it or how are they using it? It is a great distraction to not have to face reality. Radio time could do so much. We try to make people think. That's my goal here. Hopefully, as Ed would be the first to tell you, we repeated this on the air over and over again. Our goal is not to have Mark, Kornke, and just Don here, and just Ed here, and just George here. We have to have a million of us. We need a million of us. There are 300 million people out there. Everybody could have 300 people for an audience. Everybody. And then overlapping. Seriously guys, we have never reached everybody and there's no doubt. When I get down the road and I find guys that have just started a militia unit and they're like, you mean there's other militia here? And the guys that are across the way go, well we got her, you got her? You know, working on another building. And they're like, well we work with blah blah blah and we do this and we, really? yeah we've been doing it for years we got a range down you know down by you know manchester and it's like that's why when i hear people say well well we don't think this was happening or that was a do you honestly think and i'll give you the best example is like what happened to tarry i'm not gonna die cannot consider more than this that within the last then so many set miles of where who tarry is are other organizations in groups and they can throw the compass They don't work with each other every day. They're not dealing with each other every day. They are known to each other, but they have their own way of doing things, or they've had their attitude about how they should do things. Now because of this, that retarded what was happening. Some just now found out because of the Hautari unit that they had people right around the corner. Or again, they finally realized that they better get their act together. There are so many different groups of people. Even people that I associate with, and people don't even think about, here's an example, there are a stream of people that have been associated with us for a long time. But there is a separate stream, or multiple streams of people that have been associated with me for just as long, that other people don't need to see. And in some cases never have. That's what gets me about this. It's like, well if I don't see, okay well, you know, I have some confidence. Cough, find your body parts and have some confidence. Well, I'll tell you what. But we are standing at 6-0-2-1. Well, I just got one thing. My Second Amendment club I had. I call back next hour. I just hang in there. But, you know, hold on, because we've got to jump out here for the time being. God bless the Republic. That's the new world order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is in the run. 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