Mark Koernke and Donald Betcher discussed the historical and tactical importance of sound-based communication and signaling methods, including bugles, drums, metal-on-metal percussion, and music as psychological tools in military and civilian contexts. The conversation covered how sound carries farther than conventional methods, the psychological impact of coordinated noise and music on morale and enemy perception, and examples from military history including Korean War tactics, World War II deception operations, and a specific 1990s Michigan militia standoff where coordinated radio chatter and flares were used to deter law enforcement. The hosts emphasized music's role in building unit cohesion and fighting spirit, referencing examples from the Lansing, Michigan UN flag protest and historical military songs.
Live 365 And pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God-given rite, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, What would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free? Ladies and gentlemen, this is the second hour of the afternoon intelligence report. I'm Mark Kornke. And I'm Donald Betcher. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories. Central, west, southeast, and north. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you were listening to us on... liberty tree radio dot four m g dot com p b n dot four m g dot com and we are on the line three sixty five then go to liberty tree radio also on a myriad of reflectors across all country was a thank you to our friends for doing that and for maintaining archives separate what we have here delt are god bless you we are on the hallmark network of the eastern seaboard for the top of main to the bottom of florida from the bottom for across the ark of the gulf of mexico headed towards louisiana texas oklahoma chungabarasca Let's see, the 3rd of Wyoming and then Iowa slash Iowa. Then from there back over to the Smoky Mountains where we have the Golden Spike Project. As you know, our friends working here to cover the ridges and valleys to ensure that everything is happening. Again, a big thanks. Between those and our many other allies and friends, we're getting the job done. Well, Dom, I'll tell you what. I heard a beep. We might have another caller here, but before that, what day is it, sir? Market is the 23rd day of August, year of our Lord 2010. Again, 23 August, ought 10. Great day on Monday. Intermittent clouds might rain a little tonight, and if it does, it'll quit by... It's gray. It's out there, Dom. We got gray like Quansi Rainy Gray is what we got here. But it wants to. Yeah, it won't do it, it just won't do it. So that's a good thing. We hope it stays on for a bit longer. And I heard a second beep. I'll tell you what. We had a beep earlier. Do we have a caller or do we have a listener? George, in fact, I'm listening. I only got one question. Go right ahead, George. What you got, George? Well, you know, you talk, I know, Mark, you talk about solutions, like when the power goes out and all that stuff, signal communication, about alternate forms of power of communication. And I was thinking about a permanent ball of former communication they used to coordinate troops on the battlefield, and that is the bugle call. Is that still relevant? Oh yeah, as a matter of fact, somebody gave us a bugle here. We have one that was a beautiful instrument that's probably from about the turn of the century, no later than I would say 1920 or so, but about between 1900 and 1920. And bugles or instruments of any kind carry farther than conventional sound, which is why they were used. I mean, another thing is metal on metal, clacking. war being a modern era war wasn't it no i don't sometimes they use drums to well they use drums and they use bugle and they use flaps and you know when you want to or you know that that's what you're trying to do control a large group of people influence action in smoke blue but that is that that's a good one is relevant you know even you know i i'm a carrier these days mark i've been pb n is broadcasting character in the evening the guy comes on the ship or what is that the uh... but you know the the the ship system and perfect though remain in your phone the guy they don't even play cap george the guy comes on and says there funny about it out okay well i i would i would think that the very least my god is everybody got that lazy that you can't hit a switch and have uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... i have to say that that's pretty sad the navy should know better than that perhaps not that not to take a bit of you go isn't relatively good question you're right you know what the fuck that's really weird excuse me real quick i think i gotta bring this up and i hope somebody in the navy's listening you know the one service the last service i would expect to see undermine a tradition like that would be in the house Well, the Navy. If you told me that that was the Army, yeah, I could see that in some places. Air Force? Oh, hell yeah. Come on. That's the Air Force. But the Navy of all is steeped in tradition. You know what I mean? It's not like they've got a whole lot of time on their hands. I mean, they're like, they have to cut short because their time is wasted. Come on. There's one guy who's sole job it is to get on the mic and go, If he's got time to do that, he's got time to hit the button and in fact let's see how many different ways can you have sound played nowadays, guys. Real to real, 8-track, cassette, cd cd to memory stick in fact you can have twenty thousand versions of taps you know maybe the court brought his horn yeah or or or heaven forbid the alfalfa that's right let's not forget the most important you mean there is a trumpeter there's not a bugler on that blasted aircraft carrier what the hell happened to you people are all give me a break you know where the core what the hell happened to marines they gotta be on that boat My dad on the USS Guadalcanal, they blew the trumpet, they blew Google for chow. Yes, that's why if I'm hearing that, I'm questioning the taps. Are you asleep? I couldn't believe it. Boy, somebody's actually, some of the Corps even need to get on that one. You mean to say the Marine Corps isn't putting a boot up there, hunting down that at least? I can't believe the Corps would allow that to happen. I know the Marines. That's the new Marines. Well, they're global Marines anyway. What can we expect? Global Marines. As opposed to American Marines. Global Marines. That's the big thing right now. Well, Mark, I guess they're wanting a VFW post and a U.S. Marine Corps artillery post of all retired Marines. They all blow a revelation and taps when they retire the colors at night. It used to be on a post when you, in fact, I was, you know, I was, let's see, a Benning. and let's see what else old fort Knox which is really kind of me cause for not yet to watch out cause for not have a live gunnery range that changed all that in the last several years are they spent a lot of money on it and now they're gonna probably pull it all completely but on the old on night gunnery range we strong sheraton's out there uh... the far range you actually had to shut down the road you know for the range to work well the problem is that remember at sunset you have caps and untraditionally uh... at fort Knox Fort Benning uh... fort lost the woods misery when i was there still had it when it was time for retiring the colors in the post main post everybody stopped you were supposed to get out of your car or to stop come to attention face the direction of the main post and you would in effect they would call everybody calling or you know you know calling everybody to attention And then you'd hear taps, and while taps, as long as taps were being played, all, even civilians, all cars must stop. That was a tradition. It goes all the way back for as long as the post had been in place, and taps would be played. That gives you an idea of, like I said, steep in tradition. Everybody goes, well, that's kind of good. Well, you know what? We kind of honor our system. We like our country. And we have traditions that were established and part of it is doing proper honor and remembering. It's a moment's remember. It's like a moment's prayer. That's what you're supposed to be doing. While you're doing that, you're supposed to be remembering what you're here for. And the people that have passed down before you. Part of that tradition thing. And to me, it's like on an aircraft carrier. Oh man, that's, you got me on something now here. On an aircraft carrier? What the hell? What? The guy's got a crossword puzzle he's itching to catch up on. Did I miss something here? What a bunch of dupes. That tells you right now how far around the corner they've gone and how downhill they've spiraled. Go ahead George. Well Mark, I was on TDY on an aircraft carrier. And I'll tell you one thing, that was like a floating city. It is a floating city. 24 hours a day. Oh yeah. 3 miles an hour in that flight deck. If you didn't belong in that flight deck, you stayed off that flight deck. well they are part of the county's best that part of the neighborhood you have someone could cut you up and unintentionally but some of the internet that the other with that in general karman but as far as like you will call for that could be used they cannot only could be used for court made out of battle well it still would be signaling i mean number one is like even i mean come out we use players we use players we use found uh... in fact let me remind you if you are if you first deal you see a did you see a you see gas you put your gas mask on and then you're supposed to either a put your hands pale put your arms out to your side like you're surrendering but you're not and then what you do is you know you shall all when you bring your hands you're up like enough to bring your hands up to a like a forty five and you bring you pivot on your elbows and you tap your shoulders gas but the other technique that used is this Actually, that's not right because I gotta do this. That's metal on metal. And the reason I do that is because people can hear that through the covering of their chem hood. And you're supposed to then be going, BLEH! BLEH! BLEH! BLEH! while you're tapping two pieces of metal together. And you're supposed to just keep right on tapping and that's a signal that will draw everybody's attention and will make, in fact, here's another example of a way to do it right here. Everybody can hear that over the air. That's why. If you can hear that over the air where I'm holding this away from the phone as far as I am from away from the microphone, then think about if you're wearing a gas mask, why I'm doing this. Okay, so yes, different signals can be used and a bugle cuts through a lot of different interference. Yes. No wonder they use the horns, the horns scare us, you see. And in fact, to be quite honest, let me point some out, George, that is true, because like I said, my Uncle Lloyd, he said, you know what, that may sound funny, but he goes, when you got a million people coming at you and you know, when you hear a bugle, they're really coming at you. Oh yeah, again, it was a terror thing too. Psychological. Because if you've lived through one, you know what's coming. Yep. And in fact, that was the sound, like I said, they knew when they heard the bugles, he goes, that was part of what let them know, here they come, when they heard the bugles. And then they start coming down the hill. They headed right towards the yellow and there was only one bridge. He said if they had been given the order to shoot that apart, the Chinese had never gotten across. But those bugles and the other thing is in fact the same thing I just did on the air here. The signals, one of the things they did this for is psychological because imagine I just did this, that's one person making this noise. Okay, I'm going to do it again here, you know, like this in the background while Mark's talking. This is distracting. but this is not just distracting imagine if you got a million guys and only two hundred thousand of them have weapons the others by a man every person knows this was in the korean war the other guys all had either pieces of metal or like their helmets they would take a piece of stick or they take their what if they had a banner if they were lucky or a fighting knife rod machete or something they'd be doing it Bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing. Plus they'd have two sticks, if that's all they could find. Two sticks together. Why? Well, when you've got a half a million people doing this, just think about what that must sound like. That sounds like a bunch of, you've got giant ants, you know, like those horror stories you always see, like, you know, the horror movies, the old ones, with the old pincers coming together. That's what that sounds like. Times I'm, what's even 100,000 people coming at you like that? Do you know what that's like? Because you can't see them all, but you can hear them all through the fog, in the darkness, no matter what. And then on top of that... Okay, George, did Mark answer your question? I think I did. I'm sorry, repeat again. while i will beg by two great jamming they work the same way you're you're you're going on the list of what we've already known if they psychologically work both ways uh... you could be they again they cut through and there are such a they're abrasive to the sensory system even bugle so we had we enjoy the company we enjoyed that place we've been have been described as a dot original for the bagpipes you guys Any sound instrument can be used to make signal. This is something we should remind everybody. It can be done surreptitiously too, guys. Oh, there's that crazy goof over there using the bagpipe tonight. Over the evening, he's like for sunset. Well, maybe this is the night that he has to do that because he's letting everybody know that that unit or that formation is moving through his area that he was waiting for. You know, sound travels a long way. signaling flags by the way signaling flags have never been obsolete even even though we would ridicule the the uh... fact that the russians would use flags one of the things about signaling devices like flags is that they they allow you to not break radio silence while still communicating an extensive amount of information yeah and flags are a good choice it would be two things we've talked about his noise and light discipline uh... i like what though the one gentleman we had upon the air as a guest in the morning here he has web here i reading his page i like what he said because it's all it is the traditional policy uh... with regard to uh... dole's discipline goes if you don't think noise discipline anybody who thinks that noise discipline is not important and i want you up in front of point man OK, and there's an FMCO, FMCO is the name of the company by the way, guys. That's John. We had him up on the air. But if you go to the webpage, in fact, let me give the webpage up, because I like this. You need to read, actually the page that explains why they build the gear the way they do is totally pertinent to what we're talking about. And, so again, anytime we can offer another direction, so antipersinelle.net, www.antipersinelle.net, www.antipersinelle.net. Let me give you an example, because sound travels, okay, if you think it's bad enough that sound travels during the day, guys, sound travels many, many more times in distance at night, because the back, Yeah, exactly. That's a different story. That's simply for management. And that's done, but you're talking, you're just, that's a tangent. That's often an angle. Well, the idea is to use that. In fact, psychologically, let's put it this way. You can do that in a number of ways with a boombox. Well, think about even the jack-boob. more of their arkansas exactly or you know again your there's a number of different one of the things that we've always argued is uh... every tool the trade can be Every tool of the trade needs to be used. In fact, that's one of the things that I don't throw, I try not to, but we can't help but old boom boxes can be repaired, can be camouflaged. We did it World War II, psychological war for operations. We did it in World War I, World War II, Korea. They did it to us, we did it to them. But, if you really want to muck with the bad guys, remember we're not supposed to have noise discipline. We're not supposed to understand light discipline. We're all supposed to be a bunch of peasants running around. What did he say, remember? With pitchforks. There are more than that, sir. supporting the law in Arizona, a bunch of reconquitas that are going to come out and wreak havoc. They all went and sang God Bless America and all the patriotic songs with the heartfelt sound. It made them leave just because by singing it, it made them leave and walk away. It's like garlic with vampires. And it wasn't in Spanish. That's the whole point. Music does have an intimidating factor. Well, music in general, this is why, what have I said before, and I will repeat this again, music is, psychologically, let me give you an example, we have this on tape, and, actually on videotape, but it's from the protests up in Lansing, Michigan, where the UN flag racing, and the cops are really arrogant at different times, and there are a bunch of cops that just, hey, they're ordered, they gotta be there, they're in all the riot gear, and they're surrounding the flag pole, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, the one thing they didn't expect, and really, again, because of their propaganda, the MIAC report BS is an example of more recent propaganda. You see how these characters, some are pee brains and they eat the stuff up like a dog lapping up vomit. to ask the right questions and then find out that those characters don't realize how multi-dimensional we are on this side. Some are just ignorant of and aren't going to get any true information from the Shysters that are in the ADL and Southern Perversion law that are the ones truly pulling the chain on the MIAC operations and on these fusion and pomegranate operations that are supposed to be the Intel centers. They're not Intel centers. They are just mouthpieces for the Southern Perversion Law and ADL. It's all they are. A bunch of goofs that are P-brain operators to begin with. Now, music is critical. Music will lift your spirits or it will take in the gutter. It's purely a matter of how, again, when the controlled operations are manipulating society, they do this. From a battle standard battle standpoint there are many examples where they try to reinforce this were units use traditionally to have their own songs marching songs yeah their own song but it was their own like their with the real pick a song it's going to be yours you all decide what you want okay teddy roosevelt's rough writers was men of harley anybody know that you don't realize that the unit remember teddy roosevelt when he organized we said okay You know, what are we going to call ourselves? Rough Riders! Of course, they came up with Teddy Roosevelt's Rough Riders. He goes, okay, now we're going to pick a unit. We need a unit song. I want you guys to select one, and you're all going to sing it. Okay, sing. You will with us. Just like fighting. He goes, I know it's the old point. If you're in this unit, everybody fights. You don't fight, I'll shoot you myself. Don't worry about the enemy. That was the attitude. you're all going to sing don't think i'll kick in a rumpus you learn to sing but everybody joined in fight college e okay think about it in fact there's a moment to hear the second two because you're talking about like jack boots this gets down to us again sound how does it affect the body how does it affect the mind or do you have a of afraid free decor you know what that yes mark exactly the spirit and again and even to the point you know here's a little one that were there in the hat in the ring referring to flying and it might seem to be a victory mix of... We're going to have a little fun here real quick. Just listen in here guys. Now you've heard this maybe before. Some of you will recognize this right away. But Don, you were talking about just with the jack-boo. Just like the marching-boo. What does it do? Or how does it play on the mind? Right? Oh yeah. Now listen to this. Uh oh. Well, Mark's going to get kicked in the head. Am I right? If I just played those hard rock guitars, You'd be going, that's cool. But what did the boots do to set the tempo and set the mood? Oh yeah, it sounded like there were a lot of people there. A bunch of them from guitar. And the image, the visions that come into somebody's mind right away are some of the legions that you've seen before marching across Red Square. Think about it guys. Or whatever it is, one of those, and a goose step, or like again a high step where they chomp, chomp, chomp, chomp. So yes, psychologically, now this is where I was going to bring up the idea of sound, guys. You know, we recorded armor, we recorded equipment. Somebody talked about deception. Well, how could they, well, they wouldn't spend money on deception like that. You know, they would have to be the real thing and blah, blah, blah. Really? Well, obviously, nobody who's, everybody always prags about being a student of World War II doesn't seem to recall the myriad of bases that we established in England with fake barracks. with barbed wire with guards of which you could kill you for trying to order would arrest you for trying to look at a base that didn't exist with patrols gasoline spent inflatable tanks inflatable aircraft wing yup dummy equipment dummy everything they spent god knows how much money i mean think about you gotta remember something about just that aspect of it in order for you to do a decoy something else is not done because everything is time consumption However, what value do you place on the deception? So is the deception a weapon in and of itself? Yes. Therefore, is it worthwhile to spend the money to ship inflatable tanks to Europe to make a bunch of fake inflatable tanks so somebody feels good from a distance at seeing what looks like a tank sitting in a motor pool that's part of something that really doesn't exist? With barracks that are nothing more than wooden shells. with roads that are nothing more than painted rocks, painted gravel, spray painted gray. With box holes. Did you ever read the book, Mark, The Man Who Never Was? Yeah. And you know exactly where I'm going then. Yeah. And people have to talk about it. But you guys, if you ever come across a book, The Man Who Never Was, you might find it in paperback. You might go down to your library and request. They send it to you from some foreign library. Well, maybe some library somewhere in Hardback. But if you've never read the book, The Man Who Never Was, it is a great book. were at four points of the compass around the enemy, around the aggressor on the ground, in this case the police state. And everybody was all puffed up, and the SWAT teams were all, they were going to do this and they were going to do that. And then all of a sudden in that cold clear night, they heard, and that parachute flare that went up a thousand feet, popped open, and about a mile and a half to the west, it could be seen where it was launched from down the road. But even as it was launched in the other direction, about two miles in the other direction, another flare had been launched at the same time. Oh, but by the way, the people coming up from the south, about a mile and a half to three miles out, we don't know the exact range of the main body, they fired a flare because it was all coordinated by radio. Now they could shout and make lots of noise, but you know what? The demonstration of four points of the compass, four different parachute flares going off simultaneously, kind of let the bad guys know that, well, they might be staring down at maybe, oh, 20, maybe 100 people. They couldn't be sure who was in front of them at one point. But for sure, well, at all points of the compass, somebody was coordinated enough that pop, pop, pop, pop, Four separate streaks came up off the ground, and a very clear night by the way, very crisp, very clear, the air was very cold. And those multi-thousand candle power flares were marking out as they slowly drifted back to earth, illuminating the area around them, and targeted towards the epicenter which is where the standoff was. That didn't exactly bode well for the bad guys, you see? Now, there's a lot of other things that can be done in the process. Radio chatter and also sound on the ground. Now, probably the best example is that would be one of the last messages to back off that you could give the bad guys. If somebody would say, well you're warning them in advance, they already know you're coming. They already know you're coming. That's why they're here, boys. yet you're already tell them anyway you're right on the phone you know i was discussing this this weekend with what happened you know years and this is again the same era through the nineties everybody will you get a little bit of a candidate you know what what what happened in one case they had they actually have all the time to bring over the attack on holiday they're going to back on holiday you know they've never attacked on a holiday but one day and it was most foolish mistake to make the attack on the halloween does everybody remember we've covered this where the attack carl miller was doing legal work and he was beaten the snot out of the bad guys he's a deep he's a uh... independently not only not a lawyer just doing uh... paralegal slash pro se work here in michigan but he was helping people not just here but all over the country well because he was a beat the spot on the sent the uh... the state police fbi water harass him and what they were trying to do is desperately disrupt his legal work So they attacked a piece of property where he was staying and they handcuffed him. And by the way, they tortured him too. There was a big puddle that was out by the pole barn where he had his legal offices where he was doing his legal work. And they had him on his knees and they kicked him face down into that four inch mud puddle that was about ten feet around. and they left him there, kind of like water-turturing. Oh, look at just waterboarding, Don. Isn't that fun? Yeah, without the board. With your hand cuffed, your hands handcuffed behind your back, face down into a pool of water you can't get out of. Somebody putting his boot on your back. That was the state police doing that. There's an example of these scum in motion. Well, what's interesting is that the house that was there was a two-story small farmhouse. and very much gingerbreaded out because there were a couple carpenters who were helping the family and the family of course did work like this and it was beautiful on the inside. It was all oak and it was all stuff they'd collected over the years from work sites and they applied it to what they had. It had beautiful parquet floor. Well the scum tracked there in the mud outside because it had been the rainy season, of course in October. and they track intentionally and this is on film because there were people were filming this the family was pushed out of the house but they were smart and they had baby they they turn the camera on and film what these characters are doing they walked in put their muddy boots on the kitchen table while they're sitting at a kitchen table with a kitchen on a kitchen chair and they're on film and they're all yuck it up and they all got the squinty laffy eye thing Well, the militia was already in motion, and despite the fact that it was a holiday, everybody mobilized. And the first thing they got was a telephone call confirming. And they didn't just call the owner. They called the state, the characters who were the SRT that were on the ground and said, hey, we're all coming. I'm going to warn you right now, not only are we coming, but we're coming in force. Well, the management knew, but the rank and file were still yucking it up. And they're sitting there with their muddy boots on the kitchen table. It was a nice oak table. And they're grinding the mud into it. And they're grinding the mud on the floor. They're going into the refrigerator and pulling food out and laughing. And the first militia vehicle shows up, which was a truck and a van. First two, actually. But they were the ones that publicly showed up. And they came right into the property where the bad guys were. This is all on film. Some of you have seen this before. Well, this one schmuck, who by the way is also on film in another location on the other side of the state, St. Parasite, he was ha-ha-ha until the guys, the first thing the team leader did that was with the militia, he said, is it okay for us to be here? He didn't ask them. He didn't ask the scum. He asked the owner. And the people said, yeah, it's okay. Immediately, everybody pours up the vehicles the rest of the way. Now the rest of the unit was down the road. But immediately, everybody's armed up. Everybody is carrying weapons. They're all on the ready. Well, the old eyes of the character with the mud on his feet that's laying back there is on film where his eyes turn about the size of two pizza pies. You can see the whites of his eyes plainly. You wouldn't have to worry about it. Remember when they said, don't shoot till you see the whites of their eyes? He'd be the one you'd spot first. You might fire a little earlier than expected because his character's eyes were about twice as bulging as the rest. And of course, they were all incredibly arrogant. Until they got the next call says well the first groups on the ground there and the rest are on their way And you got a whole bunch of us down the street here. I suggest you people kick rocks and get on down the road Well, you know what they were scrambling over each other to pack up Don But by making a little bit of noise, and especially a little noise not only that but on the radios, they also started to hear the radio chatter because that was intentional. The radio chatter could have been encrypted, could have been slowed down and could have been on the frequencies, but they specifically used the CBs so that it would be heard by their cars that were monitoring the CB frequencies. And there was a reason for that, to send a message. They already had a good idea, everybody was coming. And again, the idea was, well, we're going to give you a warning. You've got an opportunity to get out of the dodge. And they did, eventually. But all of that played. All of it picked at their level of arrogance. First of all, it started to disintegrate, and then utterly disappeared. See, that's how it works. Now, would a bugle would have been kind of fun? Yeah, I think to be quite honest. Or, you know, again, what we did, like I mentioned, the Lansing flag raising. One of the things we did is there's a three-piece set of song, triad of songs that were done by Chris DeBerg. Revolution, Light of Fire and Never Forget. They're the three last songs on the Getaway album. And, you know, everybody's heard these songs before. You know, we plug those in up there and if you watch, it's on tape, the characters, and we put them on a boom box right in front of everybody, right in front of where these guys were standing. And they all froze. Wake up boys, there's a light at the window. I can hear someone knocking at the door. There are voices in the street and the sounds are running feet and they whisper in the wind, revolution. Now, that wasn't something they'd heard before, but then we had a whole bunch of other cool songs by Carl Clang, Steve Boss, etc., etc., and they were all picked for being the aggressive pieces. Well, they had none of these songs or anything that these characters had ever heard before. And it wasn't all, let's just say, rally around the flag, although that was in there somewhere, by the way. But the idea was they were fighting songs. These characters all got really quiet. Before they were kind of puffed up and they were being kind of arrogant and they were making snide comments to a couple of drunks off to the side. It was really fascinating with me with the police, the cops that were there, the Lansing cops. They had more in common with a handful of drunks and they were drunk off to the side than they had with the American patriots who were protesting the UN flag raising. And they could bond easier with the drunks than they could with the patriotic Americans. What does that tell you? Now again, the music had an effect. And it may totally change. If you watch, this is all raw stock footage. We got hours and hours. My God, we got so many hours of footage you can just watch. You could watch forever. Time builds up, guys. For the rest of your life, you could be watching a whole lot of other stuff. But if we benchmark and remember things, we can expedite this. But sound, noise, in this case voice and music totally changed the demeanor of the enemy or the aggressor, the one who was going to be the aggressor, and how he would act, even how he would have to think about who was in front of him. So would a bugle be kind of cool there? Yeah, you know what, to be quite honest on that Lansing, a bugle down the road going, Some people remember that old one. Call the battle stations. They probably excluded that from the Navy. They said if somebody from the Army can remember that in the Navy, and there's probably most naval personnel that will remember it. What the hell. Anyway, but there again, it would have an effect. I think it would. It's very telling. It works in reverse order, especially if all If somebody were to be playing a bugle down the quarters of the buildings in one direction, and from the opposite end comes a reflective call. In other words, not because of an echo, but because another man or another group is coming and the other person there is using the bugle. You know, these are all things leading up to, you know, what's going to eventually the people be it's going to be gunfire I mean guys come on we know somebody say well, this is going to be gone where yeah, but leading up to this point There are going to be things that you're going to either you're going to have to build your body up You're going to build your mind up to Your spirit up why the fight song the same reason men of harlequin you haven't heard the song men of harlequin Okay, it's in fact where you can find it where you'll see it used is in the movie Zulu remember the movie Zulu Remember that? There's a point at which those poor buggers are absolutely surrounded. Huster's last stand scenario in the extreme, guys. Behind the wall. Yeah, that's the only difference. And those Zulu warriors have already shown that they can hack-chop on their way through a whole lot of redcoats. They already did. 40 miles and fight a battle at the end of that run. Yeah, and they already did. Yeah, that's the only way to make that up. And they were coming for more. Yeah, so again psychologically. What was the purpose behind that well the zulus were zulu Remember and on the other side. It's like the guys said we got some fine tunners here What did they think and they used them and they used them so again different different different sounds good would a bugle again? You point back. This is a you know again what a bugle accounted. Yeah, we'll make the difference In fact, now let's see if I can do that for you real quick here I'll bet you we can. We might even be able to. Oh yeah, there we go. In fact, guess what? I might even be able to find something. What you got, Mark? Oh, you never know. Don't say we can't find it if we don't look a little bit. My point is, imagine that again. Part of the idea behind this is to focus. To give you something to focus on, it's a common bond. You know, psychologically, this is tied right into everything else we've been trying to promote. You have people who go into weezer mode constantly. We try to exhibit that fight and try to imbibe teamwork in you and build when you think about that. When you were doing that, boom, beating their spears on their shields, you don't think that's mark-heating their spears on their shields, thump thump thump, Zulu, and telling their opponent, their enemy, who they were, won, to hear that come back. The idea is, well, they're a team. Yeah, well, we're a team too. And what's most important here is, again, You know, we have both the quality and the quantity. That's something everybody goes, oh, we've got so much people. Come on. You know what? I think I've handled pretty much, and I'm not bragging, but I've handled pretty much with the exception of only a few weapons systems, anything I'm going to run into. And with the littlest left, you've got to remember something. The militaries, no matter who they are, have dumbified the system so that it can be used by somebody with minimal training. Think about that. Come on. Remember, my favorite is the law's rocket. Okay, the Viper is no different. Look at the side of the weapon. How do I use this? Look at the pictures! Side of the weapon! Think about it. Why did they do that? Okay, even if the person's not real fast, between the pictures on the launcher and everybody getting a class, a basic on it, chances are most of them will get pointed the right way and do the job they're supposed to. Okay, that's simply how it works. They might even check their trip. Yeah, and we have exactly we have a yeah, just in case don't get don't don't stand behind me by the way, please We just so many casualties to the rear is a friendly casualties of unfriendly if you're not careful Do not follow the instructions you see in most movies. They aren't healthy for you. Okay? But again, what do we have? Yeah, I think one thing has I think every time you could really that's the whole concept that's one of the things a precursor to an action or to a with a warning order so to speak and it works no psychological also it can overpower everything else that's going on or with the other part about it is the every have to remember to you ignore your enemy factions in other words you dominate by creating the you dominate by creating the problem yet right That's part of the whole idea. It's like the war drums, the bagpipes, or the sound of a certain piece of music or whatever has the same effect. Hold right there for a second, though, because we've got George here. George, jump in there, please. Yeah, Mark, you remember that in the spring I sent you that little CD of my lead-in? Yes. Did you ever listen to that? The public there with the gunshots going off in the end, on the beginning? with are you steve bosses version no no no this was a state bosses were always going to know what i think it's got out the station because i you know what anything that cd automatically i've just had a chance probably even to find that one again as you have to back in the spring i just took a little note told you that was my lead in on that thing now that's a psychological lead in so you get a chance i was getting close well you know that's one of the things here too guys again it's dynamic the thing is dynamic just like that's why i played that one of the piece i played that was command and conquer It's called Hell March, by the way. There's a great history to that. There's a lot of Southerners do not like that song unto today. The marching song of the Union Army, George, you know that. That's what I use it for. Long what we call the missing verses, because remember back in the day, people used to be participating in singing and it was expected not only you'd have one or two verses, the average song had six to nine verses. I mean, in fact, I've got original text here where it's like you had to remember, remember actually what they did when they were cheating, when they were trying to save paper, is the extra verses are actually printed on the next page. You know, and just printed the words because they figured, okay, by now you probably figured the song out. The first four are underneath the music. The next are under, you know, like in the next page. Turn the page over, there is the rest of the verses. You know, how many times that happened years ago when we were younger? you can only see one two three four i can only find the fourth i can't find these words well i don't know they change in vain you guys know how many different versions there are a rally round the flag oh yes yes it's a it's the same vein of different part but you can hear the alley round the and those are fighting again these are you this is this is something that is is so critical we have to we we have to have an arm to do this we have the musicians But we need to make an effort to get as much of this. That's why Ed does, you know, like, Patriot Music Mix in addition to the talk radio and it's something that needs to happen, you know, it needs to be in there. We need to have a station almost or a feed that does nothing but music. And it should be non-stop. And I know that that's tough because we've got to keep as busy as it is. But, you know, one of the things to consider is, and that's why I ask everybody out there, hey guys, do music mixes. you know do stuff that that is the fighting songs and the fighting music the stuff that they like man that's tank music dude i'm telling it despite the fact it is not a combat song money for nothing and your chicks for free don't don't uh... and what i first ever heard a song like man i can picture being the commander's cupola We'll just go five miles an hour, the M60A3, you'll go across country about a hundred yards, plume of dust and garbage behind you, trekking along with your turret sweeping back and forth as the lead tank to that music and having that in your earpieces. You know what I mean? Like the song of the Valkyries and you're sitting, you're riding on the deck of the hell thing to your buddy. I love the smell of napalm in the morning. Exactly. It's like that Hellmarch piece. Without that boot piece, it's still a dynamic piece of music. It's the kind of stuff where it's like, dude, I can't hear anything anyway but my gunner and loader in my earpiece, so hey, plug in the tunes. It's not going to interfere. We'll keep that in the background. It'll be hung through your body while you're still hearing what's going on when you give your fire orders. You know and the drivers you know he's keep bogeyed anyway his job to keep you alive because he's keeping trade keep an eye out for everything But it just that's that's the whole point you know the dynamics if nothing else It's in your pot process it becomes part of that connective tissue that's common to everybody But the bug going back farther like you like we're like our other color was just bring up about the 20 men together 20 men together singing singing a particular piece Let me give you an example of this. For all of the ghetto music or whatever, you get about five or six guys together that all know war pigs. Oh yeah. They're in their math. That's right. And everybody knows the words and they know the stops. You know what? That's why everybody's like, whoa. It's a chant. It's not a chant. It's a song. But it's like, especially if you get all the notes. And the average guy can do it. So, it'll stop everything else. It's like, you know, because everybody has to get focused on it, they coordinate and they work together, and it's a T. You bond. It's all there is to it. Music is part of that bonding mechanism that helps to create strength. The bad guys know this. The bad guys truly know this. Why do you think they've tried to look at how music and media have been controlled? We're running right to the top of the hour, you guys. thank you very much and we've got but you guys you know after the record of our ability during the war of northern aggression the war between the states the native people in the white house number of people in the yard there and before he spoke said to the band with them when the band was done someone said why did you ask them to play that song he said because it may be true Again, for all our listeners, we are at the top. I know we're going to hear the music in a minute here, but Don, your number for night vision, because people, you're going to be picking up night vision for this deployment, or if you're getting ready to defend yourselves and protect your families or work as fellow militiamen, we need 100% night vision deployment. We need the ability to see in the dark. If you're going to buy it from somebody, buy it from a friend, don't buy it from a stranger. You guys, you can reach me at 231-784-55. And again, we are at the end of the second hour here. God bless the Republic. Death to the new world order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. But we are on the march, both day and night. And right here are the sums of liberty. Here's an example of a great song. Exactly what we're talking about guys. And it was demonstrated in this movie. It showed you the camaraderie, what it does, how it bolsters people, how it brings people together. It's the kind of work we need to see in general. All you need to be on the right page. Our goal is to win. We're not just going out here to find a place to fight and then die. My goal is to get through the other side, kicking their slaps off every step of the way. Ooh, we got Spike coming up right behind us guys. God bless you all. Don, anything else before we go? Oh no, we are at the top mark. Thank you very much. God bless America. All the military surplus stores gone? 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