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Had a dream the other night that, well, I didn't understand. A figure walking through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat and speaking low to me he said, We fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations this legacy we gave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost. You're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You vie permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state You read about the current news in a regulated press and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold you trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. 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I hear the drums. Well good afternoon ladies and gentlemen. This is the second hour of the afternoon intelligence report I'm Mark Horkie, and I'm Donald Fetcher one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines and occupied territories west southwest east and northeast well ladies and gentlemen you're listening to us liberty tree radio dot for www.4mg.com, pbn.4mg.com, and we are in live 365. Then go to Liberty Tree Radio. We're also on AM and FM micro stations, CB base stations, and ultra net technologies both east and west of the Mississippi, along with southern and central Alaska. We're on the Hallmark network on the eastern seaboard from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida. From the bottom of Florida across the arc of the Gulf of Mexico, headed towards Louisiana, Texas, Oklahoma. Chunk of Nebraska, the third of Wyoming, Iowa slash Iowa, and then over to the Golden Spike Project, then the Smoky Mountains, the Blue Ridge, that's right from the northeast all the way across and over to Mississippi, that big J-hook of mountain ranges there. And a lot of people pitching in, helping out to make things happen. We have a party on the beach this Saturday, party on the beach this Saturday, party on the beach this Saturday, and a meeting at the restaurant on Sunday, a meeting at the restaurant on Sunday, a meeting at the restaurant on Sunday. But Don, beautiful blue sky. It's been a pretty day all day. What is the date today? Oh Mark, it is the 18th day of August, 2010. Again, 18 August, ought 10 you guys, and you know that's the strike down the middle of the week. So, forces me to take action. I have to drop one in the chamber there, slide, jump to bed, bean well with a a cartridge magazine, and promised that we have the ability now to offer equal opportunity coercive force. One of the other things where that .45 would be appropriately in service is with something we ended the last hour with, which was the .50 caliber rifle. Now, Don, there might come a point where something's a tad closer than say 1,000 or 600, 1,600 yards or 1,800 yards or even 800 yards. It would be kind of handy to have something that rather than, again, screaming harsh language or trying to swing that 30-pound rifle around, you might want something for a little closer work. Isn't that where that hand cannon comes in? Exactly. Let me see, 29 inches of barrel, 59 inches overall length, you guys. I keep looking for a holster for it, Mark, but they just keep turning me down. Only because you kept looking for that shoulder holster. Yeah. But you guys, and we've talked about this. In fact, I've talked with a name we talked about off the air, and I'll mention the name and I'll mention the particular. I talked with Mark Westrom. We've had him on the air here. You know, Mark Westrom, if you don't recognize the name, how about Armalite? You know, the Chief Cook bottle washer and head guy in charge over there at Armalite. Mark Westrom? And after a little while of shooting, you know, there's a slot on the bottom of that that runs the length of the... Now you can, in that slot, you can move your bipod up and down the length of the gun. It seems most stable to me all the way out at the end. Because now instead of picking up the gun and kind of balancing it, you're picking up more weight of one end of the gun. It can be moved around because you might have to move it in particular places. Well, all you've got is this area to hold the gun up, so... Again, it's good to be adjustable. But when that pod is all the way forward, there's a whole lot of that machined slot, the key slot, you know, the key being in the top of the metal that isn't used. And if you were to put a little thing in there before you put the bipod on, you know, be it plastic or metal, you could actually have a holster underneath the gun and forward your trigger group. And well, if you're leaning on the gun and you hear that foot You just move the hand forward to the trigger group, gain your sidearm that's actually mounted underneath the big gun. And oh, that's a good idea, Don, but I still haven't seen him do it. It's kind of like, you know, you see big swords at some gun shows and whatnot, and in the hilt of the sword, you unscrew it, little dagger. It's the same as Thoughtline only with FireRite. You guys, that sidearm, if you're going into the field with the long gun, intent on good long ranges, well even if you're doing this you know i'll tell you a little story about mark a guy here who i know who shot a deer with a bow and it was just getting dark and he he told everybody who was listening how he he pondered over shooting this deer because it was with a bow dark and he wasn't certain he would track well he shot the deer and killed it and it didn't run very far by the time he got to it there was a coyote there started moaning and groaning pretty soon in a couple minutes. There was a number of coyotes there before he could... and all he had was his bow because in Michigan it's illegal to carry a gun when your bow hunting do not mix in Michigan. So Mark, he talks about yelling and screaming and jumping at the coyotes and them doing the same to him and he retreated to the truck sidearm, his handgun, I can't remember what it was, but by the time he got back there he shot a couple coyotes but they had reduced his deer to nothing. Well, unfit for human consumption. the phrase I think I was looking for. So again, even if you're shooting a long gun in a civil situation, you know, a long gun at a long distance in a civil situation, it's good to have your sidearm around because you know, you might shoot that deer at four or six hundred yards or what, you know, I'm trying to think, Wendy. I can't remember her last name, but she's been on the air with us shooting 50 caliber competition. She shot a 874 yards in Alaska, and at the time they got onto that, there could have been a But you know if you shoot that deer at such a range and you carry that 50 such a range you're gonna be over there and then you're gonna drag the deer back too while you're carrying your gun. This is what hunting parties are for. But you know by the time you get over there you're kind of well gee and now I gotta do this. It's good to have that handgun because as you point out Mark it might be something wild but then again it might be something close up that has every intent on going wild on you some tooted moose. Some two-foot snake in the grass wants to take everything you've got. And you pointed this out before Mark. He might not even be truly on the other side. He might just be a brigand or a pirate. Category 3, the other characters, the other team, always remember that. In any war there is a click that will gravitate towards each other that are a criminal element. This is why we argue that there is a place for sheriff's deputies, there is a place for peace officers. And we don't have a problem with that. We understand that completely. That's why whenever you hear all this BS about how the militia doesn't like the sheriff's, well, what that is is the swine trying to orchestrate conflict. It doesn't mean that there aren't people in every type of uniform that can be belligerents and be obnoxious. but in the overview is that the sheriffs of the the sheriffs deputies and peace officers are supposed to protect the population in anytime both in war or in peace time and they have a place well they can't be everywhere either and it used to be they were honest about that uh... idea relate the story down about the uh... bold arizona highway patrolman when we were out there mountain climbing and he asked if we had a gun and we're all thinking palm and out here they're gonna harass us over that And in reality he wasn't harassing, he was asking because he wanted to make sure we had guns. Right, just so he knew that you were safe. Yeah, he was. So you didn't have to bubble back on your couple. And he even said that. He goes, you know what, I don't want to fight. I don't have to respond to circling vultures. It's basically what he said. And it's like, you guys should be out here in the middle of nowhere. I can't come to help you. Because by the time I get here, I'll be filing a report on bodies. I'm not going to be able to deal with somebody fast enough. Like, I can't get here that fast. You're out here 2, 3, 4 hours away from everything away from civilization and he's the one patrol car for what? A county and a half? He knows better. He understands that. So that's the way peace officers used to be. The snots and fools that are doing this, what we ever wanted to do is to be just sayin', they're the fools that have bought into the global scan because they've had 360 hours of BS classes designed to stupefy them. Not to make them smarter, but to stupefy them. that's right and they're looking for the ones that can pigeonhole into that stupification well you know again you've got that third team of brigands and scallywags you're going to have to deal with it they think they can take what they want to figure they can rape kill pillage and burn uh... they're in uniform and they're out of uniform The ones in uniform, they'll turn a blind eye or give a wink and a nod to. The ones out of uniform, well, even the characters that are the other rapists and killers don't like them because it's competition and they might get to goodies first. That's the only reason they'll shoot them. Because, oh, there's stuff they got. Well, we wanted that. Oh, well, look at all those pretty girls. They were going to get them first, you know, that kind of thing. And that's really the fact. You know, we've talked on this subject here before. Let's, because in the first hour we talked a lot about hard Because, you know, during the break at the top of the hour, Mark, you and I were talking for a moment and talked about the date for a second. And it's a great day to take a walk. It is. It's just a beautiful day here in Michigan. You know, it'd be a great day to take a walk. But you know what, you guys, if you come to a private shooting range this weekend, or maybe even you can go out there this evening, into the woods, into your own range. Now, it's a great day to take a walk. How about setting, you know, I don't particularly care for targets when you're and handguns that much and that's just a no pun intended but how about setting up that certain turning around and you know you've heard the old phrase funny paces well how about turning around and taking 50 steps by your gun and take a shot and continue take a shot and continue don't stop not walking walk toward the target and take a shot take three step shot take three step take a shot and empty a magazine as fast as you can that might happen in two steps But you don't have to do it at 50 yards, 50 paces. You can do this at 10 paces. If you're going to do it at 10 paces, I would suggest that you do the more minute of angle and maybe shoot cans, beer cans. You represent that like a, how far away do you have to move the average size American man or a Mexican, represented by what appears to be the size of the can. Now that's a minute of angle thing. Remember Skip Taloc about, and this is one of the things that up into international hand-shaking, to be right, but they'll shoot a half-sized chicken at 50 yards. Now if you can hit that half-sized chicken at 50 yards, a chicken at 100 yards, it's a minute of angle thing. Start shooting cans 15 and 20 yards. You know, here's the thing to do. If you've got a good back, you'll be able to get 10 or 15 cents for the can anymore, unless you don't shoot the part that has the bark. And if you can do that, you probably don't have to do this much. How many bullets do you have in your magazine and one in the chamber? and with that many cans. And now walk over to an area where you've got a real good bath and just, you know, you're going to have to mow the grass down because if you just throw those cans on the ground, well, you're not going to see some of them and the cans will be hiding from you like they tend to do. Well, mow that grass down so you can put those cans on the ground and intermittent spaces. Don't line them all up because, you know, cans don't generally line all up, do they? Just toss them down on the ground. If you stand them all up, now that kind of represents the torso, doesn't it? And you could walk away from someone and hold a can in your hand until it just covers, and then walk toward them with longs about a yard and count the paces. And then you'd have a good idea of how far that person is away. See, now you're building recognizable range for your handgun. But now take that 20 paces away, 30 paces if you've got the room and you've got a full magazine, one in the chamber, and toward your tarpon when you're done. how many you've shot and how many of the targets you have neutralized. Once you've kind of become them too, and you know, we talked about building a barrier and leaning out and shooting and leaning back. We've talked about that on Weapons Wednesday. We've talked about doing that standing with your long gun and with your handgun. We've talked about, but you know what? That's the basis. You lean out, you're getting that feel for shooting when you're moving. Now, if you've been shooting rabbits and birds for years, you could just ride on this because you know what I'm talking about. But now if you've got a good range, being again or select another one, drop one into the number, put another magazine into it and add another order, otherwise you might find that you're putting one on the ground. And again, and take that 20 steps or so away from them. Now walk 10 steps to your right or to your left. And you can use it, you can shoot from your strong side first. I've advised that because you're gonna get used to it. Shoot walking at a right angle to your target. Like, think of their moving to the north and you're also moving to their 20 or 30 paces away from you. Attempt to neutralize every can and see how many you hit. When you get to the other side, change your magazine. Walk back the other way and neutralize the rest of the can threat. Now that's going to be a good drill for getting you used to moving and shooting your handgun. The longer you do that, the easier it will be to you to move quickly from one point to another and get a shot off and one or two of those shots are that mind, I'm pretty much done with the subject you guys, if you can do that you can become a better, if you can hit something simply while you're walking toward it, obliquely or 90 degrees to it, imagine how easy it's gonna be when you're just standing there shooting at it. Of course you've already built concentrate on your breath now because you know i put enough in yet to get that part going right right all agreed are you got a caller if you're worried about cost on that list a little sub note start out with a twenty two somatic pistol all year they'll give you your that'll give you your opportunity to perfect the concept And then the next step is move up to whatever handgun you want to, or intercross, because you know what, you don't know which weapon you're going to be carrying at any given time. This is one thing I truly believe in, and I was a 45 shooter for years. It's like riding a bicycle. It is automatic. I can close my eyes and visualize that weapon and all of its intricacy right now. Break it down, blindfolded, don't have to see it, I can take it down in the dark. I have trained and I tried to cross train with every conceivable weapon that I could possibly own in handguns. One of the weapons that I've had years ago, I never mentioned this, is actually in a collection now because I didn't, I realized what it was and I didn't want it. I didn't really want to shoot it anymore. It was an original CZ-27, one of the first production models, and when I say first, we're talking, this was the first one off the line just about. I got it years ago and it was one of those weapons that was very popular as a clandestine arm because it had enough barrel for meat for thread. Well, some of them that came out of the factory, Don, had thread. And this was one that was one of the first, it was actually a prototype CZ. It's in a collection now. Now I wanted that weapon, I got it for $60 guys. I wanted it simply because I'd heard a lot about them, they were very comfortable with fire, they barked like a dog, they're in 32 ACP. And you know what, that was an incredibly comfortable and well made Czechoslovakian firearm. But it was crude by today's standards. everything from bulldogs to 22's of every very you can imagine I've preferred to try and experiment with and one of the first things I always do is take it on the range and see how far it can reach with it. You know, a dirt range, gravel pit, wherever. Pick a target, pace it out, identify the range and see where they are, you can golf ball that thing and you know we've discussed. The next step is, you know, get comfortable with the weapon because you're going to have to change tools in the toolbox. So step one, try the 22 with the technique Don described. Step two, take the weapon that you're going to prefer to carry. Step three is now integrate other weapon systems and experiment because each weapon has a different ergonomic feel. It has a different way that it seats to your hand. So you have to memorize that. And you'll actually have kind of like, you know, it's like playing different instruments. You know, just because you're a guitar player doesn't mean you can't switch over to the mandolin. When you do, you have to think, register, re-identify where your hands sit, where your fingers sit, and then you act accordingly. But the basics are there. So once you've learned the basics that DAWS described, you can apply those to all the other tools in the toolbox. Yes. We're building a found, a weapon called you. And you have the capability. I don't care. I've taken every age person you can imagine and tried to help them. with these techniques. And again, we've been very successful. We've got a wide range of individuals that are very, very competent. And some of them, they were many years ago, they were in their teens, they're now instructors. So don't think it can't be done and that you aren't capable. Don't think you're incapable just to reverse. We have a caller, by the way, we do want to pick him up. Who do we have? Or we may have a patient listener. We might have a patient listener. We've got a caller, I'd ask him to speak up now because I want to address something else here. Well hold right for just a second Don, because I promised you know what you brought something up and we're at the bottom of the hour break and then we're gonna have you continue. How's that sound? Okay. Well as a matter of fact, and this is one of the favorite songs of also somebody we hope to bring up as a guest pretty soon too. Oh I know what's coming. One of my favorite too. And at first you're gonna hear a little small arms fire. One of my favorite old Irish fighting songs. still, this is going to hurt a lot. A little while. And again, for our friends there at Armalite, I can't imagine that song shouldn't be played over the intercom every once in a while just to motivate the troops if they were. You know, it's fun too. There's a lot of battle songs in there like that are out there, but that's one. You know, on a particular rifle, guys, it's kind of like there are certain weapons. You know, I mean, you don't hear about the Thompson is one. Another one that fit a unique niche because of where it hit in time is the Armalite, the AR-18, the AR-180 as we know it, and the AR-15-M16 family of rifles, those two groups. They jumped around the world in many, many different corners, while the AK was the, shall we say, the bargain basement version, that weapon was a preferred arm just simply because of comfort. It is, like we always joke, it's a piece of junk, but it's a neat piece of junk. Look at what you can do with it. And we appreciate that. We always can rib our allies easily. But throw one at us, I'll show you how to make it work. Not a problem. The cool thing is that you can find the Big Brother version though, the Arm of Light that's in the half inch board. Again, we're going to carry on because you had another subject you wanted to touch on though, so go ahead please. Well, it wasn't exactly in the half inch, but it worked for your Arm of Light, your pistol, or your AR. It's bigger than the AR-10. Yeah, there's a .308 caliber armolite out there that is semi-fired and American. But you know what, you guys, sometimes you look at particular things that happen in one area, and all of a sudden you take it to another area. Some people call it crushed. Some techniques work good in situations. And if you bring them over to another place, they work real good there too. And what I'm referring to here, you guys, if you can see some of the still haptketo masks Now Aikido is kind of Japanese. Your opponent might grab your thumb and throw it in your room, or grab your little finger. And that might seem like La Don's step, but it's not an exaggeration. Imagine if your wife was mad at you and just took a little finger with her whole hand, and she was mad at you. Imagine the damage she could do, even if it was just confined to the finger area, you know, the basic joint at the top of the carpal there, you know, the long bone through your hand, the metacarpal. Well, I'm getting a little bit sidetracked here, but you know what? When you see those guys' energy, and this is one of the things we've talked about, changing your opponent and using his energy against him, when you change, there's a scientific word for changing the direction of energy, it's vector. But when you see some of these little guys take a, and just throw a big guy across, he's using his forward momentum and whatnot, but how does he impart that energy that within himself, he doesn't move with his opponent? Many times he'll move back backward and turn one way or the other. He might turn to his left, he might turn to his right. But generally, depending on forward, his right foot, he catches the opponent as he moves too. Now if I can gain a good groove, my left foot is where I'm going to get turning energy, or that I use some of my energy to turn my foot. But now when I do that, or when I see a grand master do that in particular, when he turns, his body is turning and the foot is moving, One foot's gonna stay in one place and he's gonna turn on the ball of foot or he's gonna turn on the ball of his toe, his heel or his toe, depending on which is comfortable for him. Or more importantly, depending on how he was taught. He swings that back foot across the ground. It literally, he feels it move across the ground because he doesn't lift it off the ground. Now, this is something that can be applied. This is something that can be applied when you are moving forward. your target you don't want to stride like your la dee da dee da walking down uh... the champs a la vie walking down broadway you don't want to move like that we've talked about moving in in combat areas and on unfamiliar areas but when you move your foot across the grass sliding it across the ground forward if you're moving direct forward you're not so apt to think as when you put your foot down again Now I know that there are people out there, somebody saying, oh you just slid your foot into a tripwire. Well, mostly what we're talking about here is the infant combat situation, something that comes up at the McDonald's or something that comes up in your backyard or something that comes up in as you or your group are moving. Now when you and your group are moving, you could very well move into an area you're all walking, right? We're all walking la-di-da and we're all picking up and putting them down, right? You know, we're not shuffling. We're picking up our feet, just like we've been taught how to wash. And somebody in the group in front of you falls and you start, you bring your gun to bear and you're looking for targets. See your muzzle flash and you, you know, we've addressed this before and you know, it might sound kind of dumb and stupid, but you know, the best thing to do in an ambush if you're being shot at is to move forward your part, your opponent, picking and choosing targets and eliminating the threat. If you fall down there in the ground, what are you going to do? Dig a foxhole? You're in the kill zone. You're in a kill zone, it's best to turn that on your opponent yes kill him before he killed you attack attack attack exactly now when you're moving in that area you might want to you know you don't want to stand around and take aim and this is the front of this hour talking about moving toward your target moving obliquely or moving at a right angle to your target and eliminating the target if you've done this for a while you'll be able to move a little bit quicker than if you've never done this and you'll be able to eliminate a whole lot more than you've ever done before. But even in that combat situation, I would advise to maintain that shuffle move forward, shuffle but contact to the ground because you know, you want to look at your opponent. Anybody who's ever been in a fight found an opponent, you want to continue to look at your opponent because if you look at your foot and if he doesn't hit you with his fist, in this instance, he's hitting you with a .223, he's hitting you with a .762 by .54. so again you know i can go on and on about this but when we move in combat it's a different situation be it hand to hand or be it gun to gun it is a different situation and uh... you know i'm not a fighter pilot i don't have that three-dimensional experience of cop i've got two-dimensional left and right and when part of me you know have your feet on the ground is most important on this is never cross your legs always remember this term never cross your legs not people who mean by that well When you normally walk, you literally do cross and shift your center of mass constantly. It's what you do. It's the nature of how we walk. If you are in a situation, even if it's a, again, it varies depending on the tactical environment, but let's say that you all of a sudden are, let's talk about McDonald's. You're in McDonald's and bop, bop, bop, bop, you're out in the lobby, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. But then it doesn't stop. Well guess what? Number one, right off the bat, you've got a very bad location but a good location. Number one, there's one more angle of approach, the bathroom door. If you want to stay there, you're going to have to put a confrontation if the guy is in murder mode, which of course like, you know, the Ruby Cafe or the McDonald's scenario that's played out at least once in the past. uh... on the other hand if you're in a situation where you're you know we can you decide to neutralize the target we don't go bombing out into the action most important is take advantage of cover and concealment needless to say and understand that you're a gun platform that may engage it any instant of contact Now, for this reason, your feet will move, like you said, Don, will actually shuffle, will level with the ground. You will never bring your feet parallel to each other. And we call it a crab walk. The technique is designed so that you constantly have some form of shooter stance in place constantly. Now you will adjust your body and you will line it up so that you provide some cover, especially when you get to the situation where you actually have to observe or move a corner or move and observe through obstacles. This is where it's difficult when you're by yourself and much easier to do when you have a team. But if somebody's being myrtleated, you know that it's one of those McDonald's kind of shooters. It's like the woman who said, I wish I'd brought my gun into the restaurant. I listened to the law and I cost her her mom and dad. Remember her dad sat there unarmed. She normally carried a pistol and she left it in the car because of the BS laws that were generated. Her dad realizing that this was a murder situation where the person is insane picked up a steak knife, looked at her. Now had everybody done that? Fewer people would have died. If everybody had turned and gone pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, nobody probably would have died. But the law, of course, restricts you. Now, if you're in a situation where you either are carrying a weapon legitimately or illegitimately, the idea is you're trying to get out of that. If you really want to be decent, you can also neutralize the target. To do this, you need to walk into the target with control. You know, gambiting in or lollygagging in or moving in in a normal fashion isn't going to get the job done. It doesn't mean you can't put some rounds down range, but our objective is to neutralize the target upon identifying the target. And it means that a number of math formulas are taking place simultaneously. You don't get to choose that to a degree. Which is the other reason for the first rule. Don't cross your legs. Wherever you are at point of contact, you immediately drop the weight onto the feet. Flex the knees lightly. This allows and creates a recoil platform. Automatic positioning of the weapon first, perhaps even at torso height if you're bringing up and you have a combat two-hand position, you will bring the weapon up into center mass and fire immediately. Now, needless to say, you identify the target. If you've got a guy that's, you know, got a 12 gauge in his hand and everybody else in the lobby is laying there bleeding, it's pretty good indication that chances are that's the guy, especially if you just watch him cap another person in the other corner of the room. i don't think i'm gonna hesitate or wait there's always this debate about what we could have done that or you could do that or this could be okay well there's no real discussion here on this one common sense dictates that common sense will will kick in in a situation like this but if you are going to engage remember that you are not playing a game and you are not you can't be kind This is the other half of the battle. It's really difficult if you have a target facing away from you and that target is engaging a family or somebody else. You don't give them an opportunity or, hey, hi, how you doing? Shoot him in the back. You shoot him in the back so fast it makes everybody's head swim. You put him down like a sack of potatoes and you dump a magazine into the target unless you suspect other targets. And then it's your choice of how many rounds you feel are appropriate to neutralize the threat. and then you don't walk up check and you don't worry about his medical condition you confirm whether or not there any other threats immediately in the surrounding area that might be assisting that particular threat that you engage you might get a chance to see that almost as quickly as you've made contact with the first this can be troops on the ground raping killing pillaging and burning and you were just in the wrong place at the right time etcetera remember they've already made a decision to kill that's the biggest problem you have to make a decision to kill they're already again the term everybody like to use for political correctness is put the target down ok a lot of the threat neutralize the threat what we're going to try to threat my policy on that one is you dump the first mag into the target if you know that is the threat and reload and do it again this is not a hollywood movie i'm not going to be the guy that walked up to check the monster to see if he still alive only to find my faith laying on the floor wonder why i'm staring up at a at a faceless talk no i mean doesn't work that way down down down down down down reload down down down down down down down down down down down when the police come and ask you why you put so many into the guy i don't want to know family that you have a yeah i want to know exactly why you said i was going to know and you know what i'm going to tell you something i have had people i've known their sheriff's deputies years ago and uh... one gentleman in particular was in a firefight and in fact uh... the trick up i know is in a firefight And, guys, he remembers the first magazine and he remembers the last magazine. Do you know how many magazines he expended? What was he carrying? A Smith & Wesson Model 59. Do you know that he will swear to this date he does not remember firing the four mags in between? Now, you think about that. The Smith & Wesson Model 59 was the only other staggered magazine handgun available in the inventory, other than the Browning High Power. The reason it became popular is because the Smith and Wesson was double action. It could be carried in police use. And that's what made it a qualifier. And a lot of guys started carrying the 9mm Smith and Wesson Model 59 in an air weight configuration because they always came air weight. Guys are all in the frame. His initial contact, the guy was on the other side of a fence. They had been robbing people, going down the street, robbing. Think about this, they robbed a bowling alley. It was a salt and pepper team, 12 gauge shotgun and a guy with a pistol. And then they went down the street. They were so arrogant, they went down the street robbing people as they went. When the guys showed up at the bowling alley to find out what was going on, because they had already shot somebody there, then people started coming into the bowling alley to use the phone to call the police because they had just been robbed on the street. And so they actually followed these guys down the street based upon their victims as they were finding more victims. And finding more victims. These characters were, you know, very arrogant. Well, chasing down a back alley, they jumped over a 10-foot fence and dropped down to the other side and then turned and the gun battle was between a fence with a distance of approximately 22 feet. Now you figure this out, they only hit each other 11 times. He spent 15 rounds per magazine times 6 magazines with him alone. Wow! Man oh man! Think about that guys. So when we talk about this again practically ideally we want the training to kick in. Now with a lot of departments you would think that there's you know, oh they've got phenomenal training and you see all the movie BS Well, in the past, to a degree, to a degree and a very limited degree, that's true. But let me give you another little hint. Right here with Washtenaw County, close to 200 and some deputies and bailiffs, all given the same course, Don, right? All given the same amount of ammunition. In fact, back in the day, it used to be as many rounds as you wanted. Don, if you shot 50 or 100 rounds today, you bring the empties back, we'll give you another 100 rounds. Tomorrow, fire the same amount. You want to go to the range every day? Fire 100 rounds every day, 200 rounds, it would give you the ammo. Now let me give you a little hint, guys. For all of the opportunity and training, and for all of the course training that was done, when the day came for qualification, which was established by a very specific instructor, out of about 200, I think it was in 36 men and women, three people qualified. Now this is a combat corps. Three people. You know what compares up with that, Mark? We've had some of the people on the site rant, Thunder rant. You know those guys at Front Sight and Thunder, they brag up that if you come to one of their heads... And most people have a hard time understanding that typically that true. Think about it. And for everybody, I mean, there's numbers. Some of the stuff I haven't mentioned because I was even asked not to. You know what? When we found out about this, you know three people qualified out of what it's like oh yeah and then we had to have another training day and they got any know that a retrain of retest and after all of the classes and three hundred sixty hours what would it is you know don't you can be a police officer you have three hundred sixty hours of college time school time it's like okay so when they had to use that the president yeah when they had to use a personal player arm you're talking about what uh... half a percent no one and a half percent one-half because two hundred thirty about 1% of the available manpower qualified. The rest were all behind the line. In other words, they weren't even close to qualification. And that with all the money spent, with all the resources at their disposal, most of which they did not advantage of. The average militiamen, the average shooter out there, if he's taking any time to get on the range as a combat shooter or doing whatever he's doing, typically has more time on the range than a lot of these people in uniform. Now some departments take it more seriously than others, but the majority still do. The thing about it is most of the departments, as example, if there's something to go on here on the street from me, my sheriff, he gets on the phone and calls Grand Rapids. And they send up the shooter team out of Grand Rapids, which is about 70 miles away. It could be as much as 70 miles away for someone to respond into this township if they needed. So, you know, they're pigeonholing themselves. Like, every marine should be a rifleman, or rather, every marine deputy should be a, if not master, pistol shooter. Too busy garfing down the donuts and writing tickets instead. may not be able to find the rain serve but i know every donut shop and free coffee shop is in the community i shot a hole in the donut one you know i don't really have to meet but we are reminding all again this is where i have watched this over and over again people that have taken firearms you know ownership seriously are usually talked out or you see propaganda in the movies and always it's just the reverse uh... the people that typically take seriously what they're doing with firearms are safer with their firearms they know how to use them and deftly confident i would trust my life to them and have whereas on the other hand typically when we've called for assistance from law enforcement and this is the sad part they perceive you to be the enemy adequately and have an and complete attitude about your meal idea that personal defenses is your property you know you you have a right to it all heaven forbid we shall be peasants don't and that's sad because like i said peace officers unknown many of them and that's the difference between a peace officer and a policy enforcement officer. Peace officers know better. You're part of the community and the community hired you. You don't own them. That's a problem. Training, concepts, use of the weapons. Basic skills. I know we've touched on a lot of stuff here today, especially in this last couple of hours. But some of the basic rules, Don's already given you what is a simple course so that you can start to perfect technology. You can start to perfect your ability to employ the tools of the trade that you've chosen to embrace. And it's important to that again, take the time and look at different schools of thought. There are arguments that have gone almost into 50 cuffs over my ideas better than yours. Now, I have a problem with that because my attitude is there are different schools, different roadmaps that will get you to the same location. to describe it. Many different people have different ideas. Dependent upon, and this is even true with combat infantry guys, you know we talk about it, when I say squad, let me give you an example, I know we're running out of time here. If I say fire team or squad, you know how much of a difference that means or how many different things that means in the last hundred years? Oh yeah. You have to qualify what you're talking about, what era first, before you use the term. And most people won't think that way because they may not have the background. But, if you actually do know what you're talking about, you have to qualify that. That's why you'll notice that we do this a lot on the air. A fire team in World War II for the Marines was three men. But now today, restructured, it can be five, it can be six, it could be four, what if it's mechanized? What if they call it a squad? Yeah, and again, squads the same way, exactly. They've experimented with and ideas have come and gone depending upon the flavor of the day. Does it mean that the other system didn't work? No. It means that under those conditions, and with the weapon systems perfected and a number of different issues, a certain policy and formation was put together. The same is true with weapons themselves. You know, as we've joked before, but it's not a joke. If somebody has an M1 Garand and somebody stands there and tells you, that's an obsolete rifle, like my brother used to say, go jump on the well house over there and I'll take a few potshots at you with a d-clip here and we'll see how it works. you'll be absolutely dead. Yeah, there's a whole bunch of people who are already dead, dead, dead, and wounded, wounded, wounded because of that rifle. It still does today what it did 60 years ago. That 1911 that you hear at the beginning of this program still does today what it 99 years ago plus. Partly for your freedom. The operator, the tool, the tool out of the toolbox. Some are nicer than others. but all of them can be made to do the job provided you are versatile and you work at educating yourself. An instructor can offer, but you have to choose to learn. that's half the battle i don't care what it is that can be mechanics that can be tool and die that can be a a guy wants to draw a wall or they can be somebody wants to learn martial arts and combat arms you have to choose that if you do not want to focus you will not achieve you will not excel you'll get to a certain level but you have to learn to stay focused and then again a group repeat repeat i know repetition repetition repetition is the key to this whole program with me and we emphasize this time and again We've talked about muscle memory. Yep, practice, practice, practice. There is not a weapon that I would pick up, including some you've never heard of, that I can close my eyes and they physically are in my memory. I can, my hands automatically would hold that weapon even though it is not even physically here. Well Mark, I'm starting to remember some of the seven o'clock hour. That's right, we're at the top of the hour by the way. Hold on here a second. at Again, 2317-9658. Thank you, Mark. Very good. And again, guys, remember the AKs, especially the remaining AK right now, classic arms, all of them that we've seen so far now have the rails on them. ClassicArms.us has the aftermarket fixture for about $30. It has three different picatinny rails on it. You'll drop your night vision scope right on that. You can put a laser on it. You can put a can opener on it, whatever you want. Anything you need, it'll fit. But that's a way for you to have a system ready to roll. Or at the top. God bless the Republic. That's the new world order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen, the Empire is on the run, but we are on the mark, both day and night. Voorah! Kick him in the slats, run him over to that fence and throw him over to those mad dog, drug-dealing chihuahuas. We're hamming up and getting ready for the problem, guys. The rest of you need to do the same. Again, mindset is back to battle. You get up on your little 21-inch screen and howl about America and democracy. There is no America. You get up on... your little 21-inch screen and howl about America and democracy. There is no America. There is no democracy. There is only IBM and ITT and AT&T and DuPont, Dow, Union Carbide and Exxon. Those are the nations of the world.