August 18, 2010
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Mark Koernke and co-host Don discussed firearms, ammunition, and preparedness on this afternoon broadcast. The show featured extensive coverage of rifle options including the M1 Garand, AK variants, and .50 caliber weapons, with detailed recommendations on parts, magazines, and suppliers. Callers contributed information about pricing and availability of military surplus firearms and ammunition. The hosts emphasized rifle marksmanship as a core militia skill and discussed federal harassment of firearms dealers, the Gun Control Act of 1968, and concerns about UN gun control treaties being pushed through the Senate.
- m1 garand
- ak-47
- rifle marksmanship
- ammunition
- firearms dealers
- gun control act of 1968
- un gun grab
- atf
- preparedness
- militia
- .50 caliber
- night vision
- weapons wednesday
- ffl
- bulgarian barrels
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Live 365. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You've vied permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate. And your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press. And you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper, so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep and dead. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch in tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms He'd fought to keep what would be your answer if he called out from the grave is this still the land of the free? Gentlemen, this is the afternoon intelligence report. I'm Mark Horkie and I'm Donald Butcher one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines and occupied territories central west southeast and north well ladies and gentlemen you're listening to us on liberty three radio dot four m g dot com p b n dot four m g dot com and we are on live three sixty five then go to liberty tree radio We're also on AM and FM micro stations, CB Bay stations, and Ultra Net technologies both east and west of the Mississippi, along with southern and central Alaska. We're on the Hallmark Network on the eastern seaboard from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida. From the bottom of Florida across the arc of the Gulf of Mexico, headed towards Louisiana, Texas, Oklahoma. Ooh, a chunk of Nebraska, the third of Wyoming, Iowa slash Iowa, and then over to the Golden Spike Project along the Smokies, the eastern part of the country. Kind of a big snail drum. Back in that direction. Actually, they're cooperating and working together, but we're listing them in order. Again, the Grandma, the Grandma crews and the restaurant crews doing a fantastic job, and along with the OK teams, we appreciate all the work that they're doing there. uh... we have party on the beach this saturday party on the beaches saturday party on the beach this saturday and a meeting at the restaurant sunday i'm meeting at the restaurant sunday a meeting at the restaurant on sunday so pay attention there a lot of work to do but don you have beautiful blue sky day here what day is it sir market for eighteen day august you're of our lord to five and you know it w w kind of day you know i'm not talking about that or within the white house it's more like One in the chamber, slide the battery, the magazine is in the well, it is a WW, you know, weapons Wednesday. The perimeter is secure, so the out force are doomed. Well, I say yes, especially that 1911, 1911A1, which again, only months ticking away until the 100th official anniversary of the M1911, guys. Ooh, a hundred year pistol. And we know it lasts longer than that, because if we watch aliens, they're carrying 45s. Yeah. So it's going to be here at least for another hundred years. And by the way, if you remember the direction which was even farther down the road, like a couple more centuries or whatever, you know it was really neat, remember? He's looking at a 45 on the shopping channel. If you watch the ad, they're watching on the boob tube in the space station, or actually on the... Yeah, talking about a 19-wheeler life. So we know it's going to be around another 300 years, at least. Anyway, well, no matter what, it's with us right now. And the next one, tool in the toolbox, don't forget lots of spare parts. One of the reasons the .45 is so desirable, there are parts and pieces everywhere. And as far as putting out a spare inventory system for the 1911, guys, you can go to a gun shop or gun show or a bazaar or flea market in many places. And there's a guy there that sells 1911 parts top to bottom, which means pins, mainspring housing, spare barrels, old barrels, new barrels, every barrel in between, stainless mags, conventional mags, extended mags, spare sites of every type and configuration, you name it, you want to build it, the 45 has it. Okay, that's all there is to it. It's a desirable choice when it comes to personal arms. There are a variety of different weapons out there that all take the standard government parts. Rock Island is out there in force right now. There's a company. I'm not being preferential, but there's a lot of Rock Island 45s in the inventory right now that are available. Good pistol, work just fine, all the parts interchange, and it's a standard government model, but you can get every variation beyond that you want, including super ultra match tight grade 45s. Personally, I like the sloppier versions, just a little more slop because I want it to work. You even want them in a really bad, bad situation weather-wise. That's one option. well the tighter weapons have a tendency to be a little more persnickety with debris so that's the only thing you have to balance out in your mind about the weapon you're carrying what it's supposed to do and under what conditions uh... on that note before we farther i mentioned something today and i think i should emphasize this uh... and i didn't there is a really and aim aim surplus dot com aim surplus dot com aim surplus dot com they were really nice nice for medium gp washer w a s r okay Wasser 10-63 in 7.62x39 standard AK round and it's a newer minion Kuger factory GP WASR 10-36 or forgive me 63 backwards there sub-automatic obviously features a chrome-lined barrel and side optics rail mount those two features alone make that rifle very desirable A factory chrome-lined military barrel is a plus, plus, plus, plus, plus. So if you can access an AK that way, we're looking at $379. Yes, it's a stamped receiver. You don't have to tell me what kind of AK it is. It's a production AK. Bannette lug, I'm going to see it comes with two surplus steel magazines, Bannette and other assorted accessories. There is no cleaning rod with this rifle. No problem. Classic Arms has cleaning rods for the AK. and everybody goes, man, the cleaning rod just makes that rifle, the silhouette of that rifle complete. It's true. That is absolutely true. Plus, it's a tool. It's part of the weapon. You need it. So, AIM Surplus is where they have the rifle right now, 379.95, you know, $380, guys. Look at that nickel factor. And if you want to get ahold of AIM to find out more about that, they also have a pretty good price on some AK ammunition and SKS trooper clips right now. AIMsurplus.com, AIMsurplus.com. it's romanian gp dash w a s r ten dash sixty three the phone number is eighty-eight seven four eight five two five two that's eighty eight seven four eight five two five two eight eight eight seven four eight five two five two tell you heard about all the intel report by the way and uh... as far as i can see they're not sold out yet You got to mention that now aim also Don has a really great buy on a Bulgarian a K standard mags These are plastic mags. I will tell you that right up front But what's cool is the price is right they have Let's see their Bulgarian 30 round Bullet mags as they call them they're 595 apiece if you buy 10 or more they're 495 apiece do I think that they're they're top of the line and Well, I think they're serviceable. You know what I mean? They're not Cadillacs. They're not Volkswagen's. They're probably just basic Chevy's. But they'll work just fine and for the price, these are great mags to put in as cash magazines. Where you have to stick something away and you want to forget about them and not worry about them and not cry. Well, we're only paying $5 a piece if you buy 10 at a time. If you think you got $379 into the rifle, $380, you've got $5 a mag if you buy 10, so obviously I'm going to buy 10 mags. Then you've got ammunition for plus or minus about $180, $190 for a can right now, which is in the stripper clips, 40-round boxes, etc. There is a good combination right there. Now it doesn't mean you can't buy other mags or steel mags or whatever you want. There are some excellent other choices with most of these companies. But this is an excellent solution for a lot of you that needed more mags to get the job done. and uh... surgeries surgery while i was talking there we go so anyway uh... public we have a caller by the way who we have no market is kennan texas uh... they can tell you about the purple mags believe pop them out you did well i mean personally but i bought them out i do want to get into more than they're just like a lecture all i see right there now they just did the after now sold out we got them all welcome to the relations to everybody who is fast So, now we've got to go to the next mag. That's the next cheapest one. What did they say? Did you get a chance to talk to them and ask them, hey, are these been going pretty fast? Yeah, let's see, 400 and something. I called them the next day. They were down to 125. They started out with five or six fast, and I'm not sure how fast. Excellent. Well, again, you're pretty satisfied with them. They look good. Back in shield is the cache, so we're ready to go. the egg now did they say without they're going to be reordering a re-inventoring at all those i didn't say and i didn't ask him why both your and mags are on the market as much as they are if maybe they've got to the a k seventy three america forty seven mags but uh... they're definitely been a lot out just not not quite that good a price that's a good point one of the other things that might have happened though to see a lot of these eastern european country countries got a lot of the government contracts for iraq and such And so they may have been on, you know, again, the benefit is they were able to keep the surplus or keep the excess, kind of like what they used to do with American companies. That may be what they're doing is they're dumping the excess that they could produce. Because once they get a production run going, you know how it is. Clank, chink, clank, chink, clank, chink, clank, chink, clank, chink, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, cl That's what the government contract did. It covered the cost of the operation and their profits on these mags. So it's interesting. And like you said, the other option, AK-74 or another variant that they might be moving to. Now Bulgaria is an interesting country, by the way, and that's another thing we should remember. Bulgaria was producing such good barrels when they came out with their newer barrel process that the Russians started putting Bulgarian barrels on their AK-47s. and then on their NK-74s. So everything that they've been doing, the Bulgarians for whatever reason, especially with regard to both metallurgy and weapons production or manufacturing in general, they have maintained a higher standard and they've been gaining expertise and keeping it. The other thing is they put guards in their plants and they've been protecting their factories. Everything is classified kind of like Steyr. They don't let anybody in and they don't let any secrets out. It's interesting that we're getting a very high quality product then in general, which is good. Take advantage of it while we can. If any more of these come out then I would absolutely recommend everybody grab more. It's kind of cool to be able to open up a 20mm can and have chest pouches full of these things ready to go. Here look what I got for you. Six mags, there you go. Six mags, there you go. Let me grab another set of straps. Look, six mags, there you go. Well, Mark says we've got another caller. Help me back out of here. I guess we'll let you know about those bags. Thank you, sir. Appreciate that. Alrighty. God bless. We need the feedback, too, Sussper. And who's our next caller, Don? Oh, oh, Donna Tom. How are you doing, son? Hey, I understand you're over at the pub. Open it up again. What's been going on? Oh, I'm doing pretty good. Uh, Mr. Mike Garand. Well, I know. They're going high for retail. That's why you want to shop around. Um, Get on the Internet and go to JGSales.com. That's one. Another one is VadaComtree.com. VadaComtree.com. It's a California company, by the way. They've got a lot of goodies like that that they have stacked up. They've seen some pretty good prices, mostly connected with the Israeli arms industry. J&G sales had some de-clips. Last time I looked, they were the other ones that were pretty decent. The only other consideration, you know, I haven't done this, our guys in the chat room may have a better connection. So for our friends that are listening, guys, if you can, we need a line on cheap. Just did that. How do you like that? There we go. Everybody can. We're going to do what we can to find out through the program here. It used to be they were nickel a piece. You know how it is. It used to be dazed. I have a footlocker of them put away. Both of them? The gentlemen, these are in a secure place with a handful of the rifles they go with. Years ago, one of the shows here, which was the old Huron Valley Gun Collectors Association, Many of the people that came in were World War II Fets and were also competition shooters. And one of the men that helped to teach me a lot about 30 out of 6 was you know his retirement money was a but all this stuff built were buying it for nickel apiece he bought it for half a penny apiece you know that is all and so he had crates of things every gold man when he shows up he has all the best stuff and it's all american well that's because he was buying all american back everybody else was playing the cars you know he was buying all of you know parts pieces and assemblies He paid his house off and paid for everything else by just bringing out a couple of footlockers. One day he came in with a footlocker at D-clips. I saw him bring the footlocker in on the two-wheel valley and said, I wonder what that is. I looked at it and he goes, oh, you'll never guess. He kicked the box and went jingle because D-clips ring. It was packed solid with D-clips. How many are in there? And he said, well, I think I got close to maybe five, six thousand there. I don't know what the exact number is, but I'll tell, I'll give you a package deal. So I bought the Foot Locker and the package deal and it has not really, I never really, I promised, I said, I'm never getting rid of this because I've got too many grands. When the time comes, these things are going to be priceless in the future. He goes, oh yes, oh yes. They are now, they are now. And those are, yeah, well, if you need it, it's not a lot of money. If you don't have one, the GORAN is a very sophisticated single-shot rifle, so all of a sudden, okay, I'll spend the $15 and have the one hunting clip. But the GORAN, that's the one thing about the weapon. You need D-clips. If you're going to carry the GORAN, today it would not be considered in the conventional MBR category, more so than a high-end placement rifle. I would consider that a rifle marksman's weapon. uh... most armies were issuing out weapons without just a little fight for the time when we were producing micro adjustable fight for every soldier in our army most people don't realize how significant an advantage that was what an edge that was doesn't mean the other i could now you know what with your car and i'm not deriding you've got i know your physical condition one of the things you might consider now tom if you're going to continue to use the grant uh... two things one trick Take one of the... and this is to help change the center weight and also to change the impact. It's a poor man's buffer tube. Take an oil bottle. You've got to look for a British oil bottle or American double stacked oil bottle. It's the length of the tool cavity of the buttstock. Okay. Once you find one, it's got to be preferably a full solid tube. Okay, one big long tube like a cigar tube is what it looks like. but it's plastic, it's see-through, it's made out of pretty good chip plastic, it usually yellows with age, has a nice screw top, a little chain that holds the cap in place. Take and get one of those and put a number eight shot in there and fill it only halfway. and then stick that in the buttstock. In the lower point or the upper point, depending upon center mass of the issue there, in your case, I would put it in the upper pocket, the upper element of the butt trap. Fill up the rest with your cleaning kit and all the other stuff that's supposed to be in there. Then I would put a rubber recoil pad, a boot type on that rifle. Now that's going to take that much more recoil off of that weapon. Okay, yeah, exactly because you know I know exactly we are you've already told us what your condition is now you can get if you look through all the different companies check copes Check with J. R. I know see who else would have those the rubber market most surplus companies have them but the rubber rubber recoil pad made for the grand if they don't have an original which will be black and They may have a copy that was made for all the 2-0-2 reenactors that's just as good. It's basically made on the original mold. If you get either one, that will compress and stretch out the recoil cycle that much farther when it comes to felt recoil. So it will make a difference. It's not a regular solid recoil pad. It actually is a waffle pad. Now those were not made for the sniper and they weren't made for the rifleman. They were made for the rifle grenadier originally. And the reason they made those was so that when you're firing the rifle grenade, which has if you fire it from the shoulder and you don't have the medicine ball, up inside the launcher, up inside the tube. With the medicine ball, never, never, never, never, and I'm noticing I'm emphasizing this, never, never, never, never, never put the rifle grenade, your rifle with the rifle grenade to your shoulder. It's a standard blank and it's a standard spigot launcher, no problem. But there is a thing called a medicine ball. It goes up inside the tube of the spigot of the grenade. You then scoot that onto the rifle and then you use a standard rifle plank. But what this does, it's like a rifle grenade launcher on steroids. It'll break a collar bone if you fire from the shoulder. So when you're using the medicine ball, you won't, I'm just doing this for our listeners, just a reminder, cause you know, grandpa gives you stuff and somebody goes, yeah, there's this really neat capsule here and it goes up inside the rifle grenade and you stick it on here and you pull the trigger. But you know, this is how you use it, you put it up your shoulder. When you use the medicine ball you use a tree or use the ground to support the rifle stock and that's one of the reasons that they made that rubber butt plate. Okay, but it worked. I just wanted to I mean 10 would be 50 bucks. I mean, uh-huh. Here we go. And as a matter of fact what a country. Thank you guys Even see if we work. We have a team they work together Five pack for eight dollars and forty five cents of D clips. That's from what a country I'm going to find out. Uh, do, do, do, let's see. Mark's got to do this live on the air, but normally contact, contact, contact. Okay, why don't I see contact here? Come on, people. Oh, Tapco, closeouts. You should check closeouts too while you're at it whenever you get to a site like this. Home, there we go. Let's go to home and see what happens. Well, I don't see a contact number, but that's probably because Mark's blind. You know how that is. If you get blind on occasion, crotchety and old. But they do have some other pretty good buys right now by the way to this company is unique. They have some interesting stuff We were talking about Bulgarian barrels. They've got a case 74 16 inch chrome bow Bulgarian barrels new $119 and you know 95 cents, but let me see if I can find Contact there we go mark. So I mean head here's the phone number you can give them a call. She can get a better price in quantity Okay for what a con 949 7 7 0 one I'll do Maine Military because they support us. We appreciate the fact that they've done such a good job too. We've done well for them. I know that. Everybody has done their part from both directions. Besides, you get some really good buys for the company. I'll be the first to say that. He's offering stuff at wholesale cost in many cases. Why do I know that? Because he deals with the companies that we've dealt with. Looking at the price range, he's doing everybody a very good service on a lot of the items that he sells. and amazing he stays in business but he's he's doing a favor to some people and most people don't really appreciate that sometimes well i do think there but i just wanted to thank you and again remember that recall path of that grand at least is a really good idea if you have a fine break off that too and have a it'll have an ordinance symbol on the but of the but uh... that looks like the flaming bomb and says usually u.s. a or whatever u.s. you know u.s. army bomb of other different stampings depending on what you But it's something you can put on the rifle fast. It doesn't detract from the weapon and it's not going to hurt the weapon. But it also won't hurt you that way. Well, that's what I need. Thank you, sir. I love you guys and God bless. Okay, bye-bye. Get healthy. And Don, I think we have another caller. I heard another beep. I mean, I used to call Don George. What are you doing? We shot and the guy wants 500 bucks a piece or not. That is a good price for those. He beat guns, 1,000. He said he's got them and that's where I got my more than a gun from. And I think he's asking 90 bucks for one of the... It's not a bad price, especially with the bayonet too, by the way. Like I said, mine's a 1943 production weapon, right in the middle of the war, but I don't give a dang. The thing shoots good, so that's all I care about. A tag driver, but I've never seen a gun, so you just take a part in an AK. Well, yeah, the potato farmers have always been counted upon not to know how they actually work with a whole lot of machinery. simplified into the Tsar's design of the weapon. We originally built that rifle, and of course so did the other Russian arsenals, but we built a big chunk of those weapons for export to Russia, and they were still in the Soviet hands after World War I. So very well engineered. It's amazing they were actually looking at that rifle for US issue, If it had been issued, it would have been like the Craig Jorgensen. We've never talked about that, really, but it would have been like the Craig Jorgensen rifle from Western Europe. They were looking at putting American-type microsites on the thing. Imagine what kind of a rifle they would have created. Oh, yeah. Oh, my goodness. I mean, you had microadjustable American sites. Again, our U.S. standard for barrel rifling was a little different. We would have had a different barrel on it. We would have gone with microsites, so we would have seen a real, real super-tack driver. As it is, it's a workhorse and it's still a tack driver. I wouldn't want to get hit by that thing. I know exactly what it will do. I've seen too many wounds from that rifle. It's actually a very reliable rifle at that. Putting the hands of a marksman, that weapon is going to sing all day, all night, and you can hand it on to the next generation when the time comes. Since that's the model M1891, we've now seen six generations of people carrying that rifle. Think about that. That's true, because I did a little research from Red Arm and they was sent like Estonia back as late as the 80s, early 90s, when they finally got their independence from the Soviet Union broke up where? That was 80. And they got a bunch of them then just to have something to issue out to their troops. And they sent them. for somebody good only actually in the in the as a marksman's rifle in the squatter is a sniper rifle with proper modifications of the weapon itself is more than service more for any any by any military spec now we like to have almost national match rifles going into the field which again that's the persnickety list of the american rival which is cool but uh... even there with a little bit of work Not even a little bit of work. The majority of those weapons off the shelf are incredibly accurate for, again, what they were designed to do and who built them. The scary part is who built them. So, you know, considering wartime production and the speed with which they were worried about it, they were prepped. And especially through the beginning and middle of the war, Don, they weren't exactly winning over there in Russia, were they? Oh, no. They were getting their weapons. Yeah, that's what I said. You just said the factory got overrun. Temporarily out to lunch. It would be at least a good year and a half, two years. Well real quick on that before we're going farther because the Grand is what we brought up initially and again a lot of people want, you may already be carrying Grand's, they want another shooter or they want another weapon for the weapons cache. Go ahead and give that website out again three times slowly for the people that are listening. Rockstarter. Okay guys, it's Peach State and I'm not sure how many of you have in Stockport slash, open home, make sure. Yeah okay it is www.www.8guns.com Again, www.petecovington.org and the guy's name is at fellow, he's got over a thousand guns for 500 bucks for can be worked on. By the way, does he have D clips? Do you know? I'm not sure. I think those, like you said, I saw those military and the country and I saw Well, the other thing, and I didn't really make the effort, I should have mentioned this too, the Koreans have been sending in all of the parts that they're very familiar with producing, because the Koreans use the Garand extensively. They're also bringing in the M1 carbine 15-round mags, and they're doing a very good job, but what everybody says, I'd stick with the 15s, I wouldn't go with 30s unless they're military 30s, and you knew absolutely they were military 30s. 30-round mags laying around, I mean, that are stuck away in other places for the carbine. They are more reliable, there is less trouble and they are so small they fit everywhere. The D-clip is about the same size. So I mean literally you can tuck D-clips everywhere. If you look at the guys that were carrying them in pockets using the D-clip, the two stacks of rounds guys to stick them right into the blouse, lock them into the pocket if they wanted a couple of spares to grab separate from their cartridge belt and separate from everything else. and the idea behind it especially if you're in the prone your hand is already forward literally you've you take your hand lifted and reach for one uh... decolipped drop it in and then back to service without having a fiddle part you know we're going down to the belt line or anything like that so there was some pretty no cool thing you could do with a grandi clip if you're thinking It doesn't mean the other guys couldn't shoot you dead, dead, dead. Remember, everything you're carrying is lethal too, but ours were very lethal and very accurate at great range, and rifle marksmanship is truly what won the war no matter what anybody comes up with. I was going to say we might be scrambling for that last can from this place with everybody picking up the phone right now too. We're very good. We're very good. We're behind about three days on their shipping at Weiser's, but they've also got a great deal on a... Well, that's another thing to keep an eye out. No, they're quietly, by the way on that note, the Fed is quietly harassing everybody that they can. It's just not getting any media coverage and the other side's told not to brag about it. what they're doing is and that's what i said in the morning program it's like the uh... gun grab through the united nations guys they are on the edge of trying to push that through right now they're going to wait till a non-business day there the writings on the wall they're going to wait till they're voting on what they're going to do what color toilet paper they're going to introduce into the senate bathrooms and everybody's going to go you know i don't need to be here for that well if you see for individuals stick around for one of those votes that never sticks around that'll be the day realize your bible yet you see a bunch of shite there's that almost always are out of the office so to speak hanging around on a non-business day and they're in the senate that's the day they're going to orchestrate pushing the u-n gun grab through it's like it's like uh... like we talk about like you know uh... canary watch all you have to is watch the senate and watch for the typical no shows that are hanger honors all of a sudden What will happen is they will wait until everybody is yawning, a bunch are going out to lunch, figure out what the hell, two or three people can vote on this. The other four in the click will all of a sudden present an action, present a motion. They will use Robert's rules to take over the session and four of them, the others will abstain from voting and four of them will vote that treaty into place. That's how they're going to do it. Mark my word on this, watch to see what happens on it, and it's in the wings right now. They're just trying to figure out how to do it. They're trying to figure out when they can get away with it, where there would be enough confusion they could get away with it. It's just like piddling with the FFLs. These characters are running out of jobs. In fact, the only thing they can do is go harass the FFLs. And I was thinking about this last couple of days. You know, originally with the way they sold this bill of goods on this BS act sixty eight guys was that all don all marcus all the world don't worry about him going to a police state cuz the ffl will have the power to stop the a t f from doing any wrong and the ffl will be able to tell them you can't do that i have the records and i'm supposed to protect them and you can't make a list and you can't do this and you won't be able to snoop in that yeah right and i'm a chinese jet pilot you mean that bill of gold everybody exactly what i want to know what it is yeah don't worry there'll be checks and balances yeah and how many ffl them put out of business because of the racketeering through the bat fight and what they do know that yeah the attack them Now again, the whole idea was, oh, we're going to be all putted above board. Well, they got everybody out there. They tried to get as many people on record as what they were doing. And of course, when they put an FFL out of business, they get to take the 4-4-7-3s back, which even now under the law, this is why I haven't heard any more about Red's Gun Shop. But let's tie this in. Red's Gun Shop was attacked purely because it was the oldest gun shop in Montana. Now guys, that means that going back to pre-68, All of their 4-4-7-3s have always been under the custody of that gun shop without the feds being able to computerize them. If they could put Red's gun shop out of business, all those 4-4-7-3s are surrendered over to the bat faggots so that they can then do what they promised they would never do under the Gun Control Act of 68, which stated uncategorically that never, no, never, never, never, no, never, never, never would they create a computer database of the firearms. Never, never, never, never, never, never, never. Why in the sacks of BS? I wouldn't have had a fire. Personally, I'd be stacking those yellow sheets with every fifth sheet of a piece of magnesium between them. Know what I mean? I'd have all my failing cabinets made out of magnesium. I'd have all the shelf dividers made out of magnesium and aluminum. I even had the building. By the time I did it would be like watching a rat rig go up. If you've ever seen a radio truck go up, guys they build it out of magnesium for a reason. You ever seen one light up? It won't be the driver or radio operator or military vehicle. That's why we call them toast. If it looks like they've got to disable the thing and they're going to destroy it, you better not be around or near it. I understand that anything nearby, well, all you're going to find is the steel parts and what little is left of those. And anything that's thin metal, it'll be puddles on the ground. I want to pass on real quick, Samo guys. And these 10s, from 9 millimeter to 45 to 25, 54, 300, is going to be trickled in if it's in a lot of these countries. And what is going to be coming to go up at least, Robin hearing, so if you can find it, and you can afford to, you need to buy it and put it up. Because we might not, from what I'm hearing, we might not even be able to get any more in. It's just like what Bill Clinton did with the best, with the Mac series, modernized their version, and made it even better. Those off, he cut off. He didn't want the Russian SKS, the Chinese SKS. We've got a lot of Bulgarian, either Slavic, another, and like some markets out there in a gun shop. I saw one gun shop I went into. Norinco's But the guy wanted too much for him because he knew what he had and they're real accurate shooters. But if you find SKS-NR or Model D or whatever they call it, they're like Ken's team. So like I said, anything you can be 22. That's why at Sportsman Guide I got a couple of those M62x25 and my Moyes Mcgott because that ammo is a whole lot cheaper still and you get a lot more of it than you can. I want to say the big stuff but when it comes time to if I need to issue it out to somebody and say here. Here's, you know, let's go do your business. Guys, it's coming. We've been talking with a long time. Mark, I know, has been talking a long time. Anytime he came down here to Georgia, we've got a long, long time, guys. And he's been telling us, and Don, God bless you, and y'all be good. And send me through, everybody. And it's free. Z dot com. Learn the basics. Very good. Take care. Thank you, sir. And Don, real quick there, too. Remind everybody, you know, we've gone through the whole family of weapons here, but That half inch gun is kind of handy for reaching out there a little ways, isn't it? If you want to get out there, that will work for you. Now, if we look at the weapons we discussed today, we've got, again, we've looked at our personal handguns, which you'll know we're very liberal about, if there is such a term that can apply to the Patriot effort. Liberal in that whatever you want to carry, that's your choice. But when you start getting up into particular weapons, you need to start looking at certain potential. The light rifles or some automatic rifles like the AKs, the M1 Garand which is in a niche with the MBRs all unto itself and again we treat that as more of a battlefield superiority arm in this day and age the 30 out of 6 Garand by the way with this Grocer Overpowered 30s cartridge is a superiority round but it's an overwatch and that's the half inch gun Dom. Well it can be done with a bolt gun it could be done with a semi auto and you can do it with a belt fed you know you can still if you're a buck you can pick one up for for 1600 or 1800 feet per second thousand yards. You just don't want to get in front of that you guys and you know the little bit of metal that you can scrounge up and put between it might not stop it. Another reason why you know long range. That's the American way you know bigger and badder and what's that thing you know more horsepower. It's the American way isn't it? That mind you can there's a lot of American companies that'll build you a single shot 50 caliber. It won't even have a magazine, but you know what, that makes the receiver stronger, doesn't it, Mark? And the neat thing about the... Remember, the one thing about the particular weapons we're talking about here, guys, remember, they're not that heavy. It's not like it used to be we would beef something up, but boys, any tank weapon weighed about 57 pounds. Okay, who? If you carry spare mags, you know it. with the lightning up of these weapons systems and the engineering advancements really just had been engineering common sense people started to apply technology that was available we've seen major leaps and uh... extreme strides in both accuracy and the most important increasing accuracy both through the reduction in felt recoil uh... firing a half-inch gunned down you're doing that all day aren't you oh sometimes i wish i could say that i all day every day but sometimes all day You're right about that recoil, you guys. A good muzzle brake, be it from a Mac McMillan or the muzzle brake on the front of it, or the smaller example on the front of that AR-30. You guys, we talk about 30 round, you know, rather 30 caliber guns, a 30 caliber . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . little brother the thirty caliber bolt the AR30 and the neat thing is they're applying what we've been talking about where again you've got these designs that have been worked out in the half inch range and can be brought down to other calibers and be quite economical to build and reasonable to purchase. You're still looking at a very very accurate bench or field rifle that when you drop it down using a bipod or using a bench rest system of weather type Guys, you're talking about accuracy out to the extreme range. And that's really where it counts. Because you can spray and pray all day. Even our own military, the biggest thing is, despite what we talk about, you're still looking at burst fire in many cases. And we understand that. I understand suppression fire. And there's a family of weapons we can use to perform the same way. But we have a tier of riflemen. And in fact, we expect every man in the militia to be a rifleman, a rifle marksman first. Well, that half-inch gun is a battlefield supremacy weapon. And while granted, one of the things that's happening is a lot of the guys coming back from overseas, as was discussed on the air here, are in a couple different weapons Wednesdays. Some of the guys coming back have had plenty of time to experiment with a lot of government ammo, and so they're reaching 1,600 and 1,800 yards now comfortably. A lot of lessons learned because they had more shelf, they had more range time. Live fire range time. Live fire range time was sometimes stuff coming back. Which is really I guess the ultimate condition. Double life. Well I sent one down range and two came back. And remember that over there there's people that have already been building 50 caliber rifles or using Russian 50 caliber rifles for many years against the Russians. back into a national geographic around nineteen eighty two nineteen eighty one somewhere in there you'll find a young afghan boy hand boring a fifty caliber bill yet that it takes about a month to do it by hand and you know he has to think that it was worth the effort because you know we kept doing it and what he was mimicking down with a lot of the russian russians were perfecting bolt fifty calibers in the way they perfected the rpg seven Think of it that way. In World War II, the Russians issued out massive numbers of 50 caliber single shot rifles. They had rifle teams that were anti-tank teams. Now, progressively, and obviously it would be like, well wait a minute, I think I can do a little better with these sights and now that I've shot the rifle a bit, let's swing that around on that radio operator and see if I can hit him at a thousand yards. I can see somebody over there, let's see if I can reach him. Boom. And every once in a while somebody went, yeah. And he goes, oh, I guess I do know where that bullet hit him. Well, that's the rifle that they were copying long before Barrett, long before all these other 50s that we have in the US. The Russians and then the Chinese copies were already out there in Afghanistan for them to develop skill with. Now, is it the lightest weapon to run around and schlep across a couple of ridgelines with? No. Is it typically crew served? That'd be a good idea. have a team at least of two men. One guy's got the front, one has got the rear, and everybody's, you know, humping it, you know, to get it across the terrain as quick as possible. And then ammunition, well, it isn't light, so distributing that amongst the team is just like distributing RPG-7 rockets amongst the team, laws rockets amongst the team, or for that matter, built that ammunition amongst the whole squad. Yeah, the gunner doesn't carry all his ammo. And neither does the assistant loader, you know, the assistant gunner. The gunner or the assistant gunner carry a lot of ammo, but guess what? The whole squad carries a couple of belts. Why? Because that squad gunner can put a lot more firepower out there, and we want to keep him running. That's one of the reasons that everybody carries a little bit. Many hands make for light work. With a .50 caliber, you have to think about it the same way. We've talked about putting a lot of extra pouches on your web gear. Hey, with a MOLLE rig, you can afford to do that even easier, guys. Here's another pouch. If you've got a .50 caliber and Don's in my team, I'm going to carry 10 rounds at least for that rifle for his weapon. Thank you very much. And every squad member is going to do the same thing. Why? Because if we can keep Don on that rifle while we suppress and engage and neutralize intermediate targets, Don can be reaching specific targets and no matter what cover they have, he's getting through the soft, chewy stuff. Well, the other thing is if Don has to carry the rifle and all the bullets, he might be the last one to get there he'd be very slow it would be back part of the will be definitely cover fire that were the case right we don't want that to happen we're gonna keep you up with the rest of the team and everybody should be thinking the same way if you've got a fifty caliber in the fire team it's just like a squad automatic weapon if you've got one guy designated with an rpk type weapon or if you really do have one of the belt-fed semi-autos right now which are great training for the future I laugh at some of these people who go, well you really got some of my auto. It's like, well you know what, we have all the basic technology down. We have pretty well what we can do with a fast finger, what we need to. And besides accuracy over volume fire, accuracy. You'll miss him 499 times, I'm going to hit him once. The other part about it is that I have the basic training tools that I need to get the job done. I don't need to go and modify anything or change anything. All I need is the basic skills developed first and I'll understand and have a good concept and understanding of how to employ the other weapons when the time comes and I take them out of the cold dead hands of my enemy. Because that's really what I want to do. If I'm using fully automatic fire, first of all, you can't buy enough ammo to keep it fed. And if you do, it's a waste of... I'm in the train of wind. You have delivering boxes of ammo through you. Yeah, it's a waste of your resources. Whatever it is that you're going to need in full auto, you take off the corpse of your enemy. Because that's the weapon somebody has the most ammunition for. You see how that works? All the rest of your weapons should be primarily, again, rifle marksman's weapons. Even your semi-autolike carbines. Doesn't mean you can't use them for suppression, but man, that AK actually is a lot more accurate than anybody wants to admit. And I can tack drive with that all day. And what's really beautiful, something I mentioned on this washer along with all these other AKs, Don, they're smart enough now that they're putting the scope mount rail on every one of those rifles. Now, the other neat thing about that is when Don has that night vision available, I can buy one of those aftermarket fixtures and in a moment I can have that night vision rail, you know, I can get that night vision fixture on the rail, click, screw everything into place or flip one lever, locked in, and now I've got Don's night vision on a real nice platform that's very reliable and very accurate. And I can dump rounds into the target and I will be pretty confident about hitting what it is that I'm shooting at. So the AKs in that respect now have a, you know, again, a leg up that they didn't have even before. I love the Chinese AKs, I love the variations on the SKS. But these other market rifles coming in they already have the added plus that you need to you know change the dimension K to bent dimension and capabilities of that weapon to go into the darkness more effectively and Don by the way because we are all we should be here in the music we're past the top of the hour oh my goodness well tell you what give out your number for night vision before we hear anything else you can reach me at two three one seven nine six eight four Again, two, three, one, seven, nine, six, eight, four, five, eight. Thank you Mark. Go ahead and one more time on that. Two, three, one, five, eight. And one of the companies that has those rail mounts is ClassicArms.US. I want to remind everybody there's an aftermarket model that has done at least, I think, three picatinny rails on the fixture. Wow. Which means you can put that night vision device up and in place, a flashlight up there, or a laser up there, or laser and a regular optical sight and I made a soup I was gonna say yeah or can opener can opener on the side where the one rails on the side you know toward the that's there you can opener will be set up there you go what you doing he's eating shut up he's busy you got to keep the calories in so he's stable there you go or a beer can opener wait a minute you mean he drinks when he shoots oh yes he's much more accurate after he's been drinking for a bit remember cat blue oh yeah that's right he's after the guy with the silver nose Anyway, we are at the top of the hour. Thank you, Don. Thank you, Mark. God bless you. God bless the Republic. Death is a new world order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen, the empires in the run. But we are on the march, both day and night. And though it be 1,800 yards out or at point blank range of there at 45, we have the tools and the toolbox.