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Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate. And your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press. And you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper, so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise. Take a stand. Defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land. Preserve our great Republic and each God given right. And pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As Iowoki vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watching tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms He'd fought to keep what would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Dill the land of the free good evening ladies and gentlemen you are tuned to Liberty Tree radio, that's right podcast to all points of the compass and to each and every one of our brothers and sisters on and behind the lines in occupied territories again by Liberty Tree Radio. Hey, you're tuned to Liberty Tree Radio. You've got the intelligence report. As I check my confirmation here on the day, it is the 18th day of August, year of our Lord 2010. Again, 18 August, 2010. You know, ought 10, you guys. If you're looking at the calendar, know what day that is. Down the middle of the week. So you know what's coming next. One in the chamber, the slide to back, the magazine is in the well. It is Weapons Wednesday. You know that WW there is the front door by the 18 door, wrong way. Weapons Wednesday, butcher. Mark will be with us in a moment, but I'll tell you that we do have Mike Lewis from Texas, don't we? Yes, sir. Hi, Don. Hey, how are you? Good, good, sir. I just wanted to call and tell everyone that we're having a militia training exercise in Texas one week from this coming Saturday. Saturday, July 28th, and it's going to be by Woodville, Texas. And Woodville is about 60 miles south of Luskin, Texas, and about 45 miles north of Beaumont, Texas. So it's, they would make about 90 miles northeast of Houston, so it's not that far from people in Houston. And we're going to have live fire, and we're going to have combat symbolized blanks. We're going to have blank ammunition, 308, 762x39, and 223. and we're going to have combat simulations and because it's going to be real hot we will be having our combat simulations and live firing stuff earlier in the morning. We're going to start at like 7 a.m. Saturday morning and then we're going to let people camp out that want to and start again 6 a.m. both Saturday afternoon and Sunday afternoon. We're going to also have classes and sit down classes on tactics, radio communications and Saturday we'll try to do most of our of all our field activities in the morning, most of the classroom stuff in the afternoon. They end up about noon or 1 o'clock Sunday afternoon before it gets too hot so everybody can go home by then. And this is by invitation. And to get an invitation, you just send us an email. And to send us an email, you go to our website. Our website is Texas. TEXAS, militia, MI, LI, TIA, no space between the two words Texas militia dot info, I-N-F-O, that's Texas militia dot info. Find our email address there and send us an email. We can send you in directions so you will have no problem finding it. And I appreciate you there, Don. If you want to hang out for a few minutes, we've got a couple of thoughts on that. Okay. Because the last time you were up, Mike Lewis from Texas, you talked about training with BLANKS. Yes, sir. And that got me onto a whole conversation about the difference between cover and concealment and the difference. But I'd like to address that again. And you also talked about referees. Yes, sir. Would you take a moment or what time you need to describe that particular piece, please? Hey, Don, real quick before you get going there. It doesn't really matter who wins the war game. It's to learn from your own mistakes. If we can find a good guy with combat experience, we try to get him to be the referee. And then he can be in between two groups, usually one group sets up an ambush, and the other group tries to find it without getting up. And the referee usually figures that whoever makes a good, careful aim and fires first, they score the kill for that person. And then we have all the people wearing an armband number, and the referee calls the number, says, you're out. and then they go to the debriefing area. Then as soon as that war game is over, both sides tells what happens and the referee tells what he saw and we point out errors and tackle the mistakes that were made and how we can learn from that exercise and then go back out and roll over again. Hey guys, can you hear me? We got you Eddie. Alright, Dad will be joining you shortly. He's talking to our other show host who's on his way out. Okay, thank you. I'm glad we talked about that then again to have someone who has a, because you know we can elaborate on that. You've talked about doing this with paintball and doing this with the airsoft. Yes sir we've been with airsoft quite a few times. You know you can hide behind milk cartons becomes the milk cartons field. And the leaf, a little bit of blade of grass or leaf on a tree will deflect airsoft. Right, right. So again it's a good judge on that or a referee. concealment, you know, because a lot of people, I'll use a standard phrase and it fits right in with kind of what I do. A lot of people have heard that over the years, the Army advanced or the, well you know what you guys, darkness is only concealment. Because if I were, you know, we talk about machine guns every now and then and if someone were out there in the darkness and I were to loose a machine gun on them, and just by chance, even if I did not see the target, if I put a hook in the air or in his general direction, I might hit him with one, right? Something between you and your opponent that will fit binky little pellets. He's sending you as fast as he can You know the bullets yes, sir now when we work in particular parameters different little Exercises because you can't call these games you can't you can't call them war games you have to if you're gonna do this you have to call them exercises You know training exercise here when we work inside those Sometimes you'll find and I've seen this myself the guy stands behind some heavy brush and one, perhaps even two other people are sending as many as they can. And maybe even they'll run out and send both. And you know that's not a real world scenario. Right, and we need to practice fire discipline. You don't have an unlimited supply of ammo like you would with airsoft pellets. There's a number of things that are being, your volume, your capacity, your magazine, let alone your opponent hiding behind a leaf. Or you believing that you could hide behind a leaf. That doesn't work. uh... different penetration between a two twenty three seven six two and three oh eight uh... the two twenty three have it doesn't have any more penetration through common building materials the pistol rounds do it's low mass and high velocity it's highly accurate and it's got a flat trajectory but the only way from fifty five grains to sixty two grains and they just don't penetrate well through through solid materials so uh... if you got some behind cover the 223 might not even go through it at all but a 762 by 39 and to an even greater extent 308 will zip right through a lot of common materials. Oh yeah and you're right to a much greater extent, it's going to be a penetrator compared to 223. You're right, you're right. Now bear that in mind you guys when we talk about concealment because you know depending on what you shoulder up depends on well the bad guy over there leaning behind the cinder block wall and a plywood wall. You can still get friction, you guys, like interior and whatnot. That's really, truly plywood, isn't it? So on the outside, you might have some of the bricks. You've got your wood frame. You've got your plywood on the inside. I don't think 223 might go through that unless it's armor piercing, and then it's not going to go very far. Yeah, like Mark says, the 220 armor piercing only has a very small tungsten metal pin in it. It doesn't have enough mass to penetrate with the darn. We were shooting a quarter inch steel plate. with the 62 grain 556 armor piercing and all I was doing was leaving little tiny pins in the metal but we were shooting it with some good old Chi-Com 762x39 steel core armor piercing and was making holes clear through it. There's another point to be made there and I'm glad you went in that direction because you know what you can shoot armor over and over and actually eventually make holes in it. Just remembering to think with your 223. The big thing about the Dart and the 223 was they literally did guys, is they cheated and took the scaled down version of the M2AP round and just mimicked it engineering wise with the you know the penetrator round that they made for the M16 rifle. It was everything about the 223 is just 30 out of 6 on limp noodle. That's the best way to describe it. Let's take it down to a certain size, which is what they did. The whole reasoning behind that cartridge was, and again, think about this, even in that day there were computers in the 50s. But all of the computers were god-awful expensive. It was easier simply to take the formulas for all of the energy and for the ballistic potential and coefficients for the bullets, the powder, the brass, the extension of the case, the taper of the shoulder. They literally just scaled down a big old 30-06 round and took it down to .223. It saved them a lot of time and Stoner was of course in the U.S. Army research program so he had all the research data that confirmed what would work and what wouldn't work. He didn't take into consideration something that's always been the big debate about the 8K round, which of course is to have a greater taper, which makes the case more forgiving when it comes to adhesion or dirt in the system. But otherwise, the biggest problem is scale, like you said, Mike. That little dirt doesn't do with that full-size penetrator, which by the way, I have one of these sitting around. We used to use them, we used to recover them from the range and use them for steel punches because they never lose a point. Never. I mean I beat the snot out of these things. So the penetrators were incredibly well made in World War II. And the penetrator is the size of the whole .223 cartridge as we know it today. I mean, not cartridge, forgive me, the projectile. So that's unfortunately a balance we have to take. At least you get a little more off, but the problem is with the penetrator, but the problem is that what little energy you're getting through to the target, you might as well have been shooting with a BB. With a BB gone on high pressure. Uh oh. When you look at the 223 as a penetrator at armor piercing, think more like body armor? Yeah. Okay. Or its application when you talk about armor piercing. And that's why I don't agree with some groups saying everyone needs to standardize on one caliber. I can see advantages to .23 and I can see advantages to .762. By .39 I can see advantages to .308. And I think it's good to have a mix of Calbros like the United States had during World War II. You know, like some guys said, a lot of them had the 30-06 M1 Garand, and then some had the 30-06 M1 Carbine, and some had the 45-06 Calbert Thompson. And each found their level, didn't they? Yes, sir. Now, another thing about that, let's look at it this way. We are not an army projecting its strength overseas. So all of the, and this is what, what I don't want, my enemy will never embrace this, and I don't care. I really don't care if they do. But the thing is, the logistic trained concept, if we were projecting our strength, and let's say that we were battling the enemy across the waves and going somewhere into Africa, Asia, Europe or whatever, well, yeah, then we have a supply issue with regard to multiple calibers. But we're a defensive fighting force working in the continental United States. We have to assume that we could have anybody as a visiting aggressor. Now, you just went through the whole line of calibers that our enemy carries. Right there, in fact the only one you left out for the moment, you have 7.62x39, .223 slash the 5.56 round, 7.62 NATO, and 5.45x39. Those are the four dominant calibers we are going to face that are going to be operational against the American people in this country as far as aggressive forces that are supporting the globalists inside the regime. Yes sir, and the other one is 7.62x54R of the Russian-rimmed .30 caliber cartridge. And again, the thing is, there are a number of stringer cartridges too. Remember the Chinese are experimenting with a new round, or actually three different new rounds. They've embraced them, tried them, and gone on to something else. You've got some unique calibers like the FN in the little PS 90s. Those are going to be out there. We're going to see some of those. We'll be taking those from their corpses. I don't doubt that in a minute. I mean, you're guaranteed you're going to see those characters on the ground carrying those weapons. So to say that we need to be in one caliber, the only people preaching that are mostly our enemy trying desperately to get us pigeonholed. Now, why would they want to pigeonhole us, Don? What would the purpose behind that be? Well, you get them confident in one system and then you just deny it. To cut it off. Just like they did in South America. Which is exactly what they did. Everybody started to commit to one caliber. AKs were all over the place. Piles of AKs. Beautiful rifles. Fantastic weapons. And then the Chinese cut off the goody tree. Uh oh. and all of a sudden there just wasn't anything available. Now, it doesn't mean that they didn't start to improvise, adapt, and overcome. There's a whole cottage industry for reloading in South America, by the way. Most people don't realize that. There's a, for a steel case, if they can recover them fast enough before the rainforest eats them or the, you know, the moisture eats them, they're recycling and reprocessing. So there's a whole crew that does nothing but scavenge picking and then reloading. And they're using, that's a Berdan case. So they're coming up with whole processes to get the job done. Think about that. Up here, if we have a diverse number of calibers, at no given time are we completely out of the fighting picture. Think about that. And again, with a family of weapons, just like you described, Mike, you know, we have intermediate, as we've said before, our light handgun calibers, which includes the submachine gun range of weapons, intermediate carbine calibers, which can be the .30 caliber carbine, .762 by .39, .223, etc., and then our MBR calibers, which is the the sky's the limit because you know we got a whole bunch of those. So there's nothing we'll run out of and since we're looking at para-conventional or guerrilla operations and some limited conventional then all the weapon systems that we have in inventory are ideally suited to our defense grid. We're not projecting. All the logistic trained concepts that they push out there are based on a conventional fighting force trying to project its strength globally. We are not a global fighting force. We are an American fighting force. And that has to be our focus. I don't have any intentions of visiting Europe until we have better, bigger weapons, and then we're going to go hunt down the buggers who perpetrated the stuff against us. Guaranteed. Don't make any mistake about that. We are going to eventually deal with the problem, because if we don't, I mean, people are going to be arguing this right when we get to the end of this phase one. Once you clean the country out, now what do you do? Personally, I think there are two groups you're going to have to deal with. The ones that are really tired because an eight year war is going to be a long war, and the others that are still burning because they know that the characters got away that were the big problem. So therein lies the rub. A decision will be made at the end of this long conflict about what we need to proceed to do. As we've acquired better weapon systems or newer weapon systems or other weapon systems is mostly going to be the case. Then we're going to have to make a series of strategic decisions that are going to determine, again, how well we are secured until the end of our lifetimes. And the next generation comes along. But one thing too again, Mike, because of the diversification, you've never actually been completely out of or been unable to supply and field troops, have you? No, sir. And we see familiar with all the weapons, all the common weapons and classes on weapons, all the major weapons. And I think that again, if you consider that, what we were talking about the last two hours in the afternoon intel report, that's something that we've been emphasizing and I've always emphasized here is we expect our soldiers, we expect our militia men to be the most competent individuals with arms on the planet. We're not focused on one weapon system. We literally can handle any weapon system. That's something that the bad guys especially are worried about because we already are in a diversification mode. If I walked up and picked up a PS-90 off one of these fools, very quickly I would be turning it on them and I wouldn't have any confusion about how the weapon system works. If I picked up an FNFL, if I picked up an AK-74, if I, whatever I pick off their body, it's going to be turned on them instantly. I don't have to worry about waiting for familiarization. I don't have to worry about trying to figure out what goes where. We've already had the instruction on it. The basics are already in place. Most important is, I don't go crazy when I get a selector switch. Yeah, ma! Look at me, ma, I'm on the top of the world! James Kegney, remember? Short bursts only. You run out of ammo too quick. That drum doesn't last forever and neither does that stick. And there from the other direction, you know, Don, we're talking about diversification. Yep, I'm harping on that half inch gun again, guys. Remember, that .223 doesn't do as much AP work, but that .50 caliber will deal with specific problems and a very surgical method, and that's really why we're keeping the inventory, aren't we, Don? Oh, yeah. You know, the .50 caliber shooters association, you guys, they've got a quarterly magazine. Every three months out comes the magazine from the 50 caliber shooters association. You know what the name of that magazine is? Bigger Hammer. Kind of a probe. You can hit something harder. Or in this instance hit it harder and hit it farther away. I like that. Bigger Hammer. That's pretty good. Again, you guys, as you pointed out Mark, looking at the .223 and backing up the formula, John Moses Browning, reverence in his voice when he John Moses Browning. He looked at that 30-06 cartridge and scaled it up by five. You're right there. It's quite capable. It came from a family of cartridges. All he did was move everything up and we got that 50-pound. Yee-haw! If you look at it, you got 30 caliber, 50 caliber. You see the thirds and if you look at weights, that's true. When you look at heavy 30-caliber bullets and real-life 50-caliber bullets, it gets to be a basic choice in there. But behind the sword. I've kind of preached on that a little bit because you know about the harpies. I don't want to use that word. But the longer sword you guys and Mark we've talked about this even when we talk about the .223 compared to .308. Some people out there that can you know reach pretty far with that .308. But if you're .308 if you can read the wind if you know up the gun you know squeeze breath the target is moving trying to estimate the amount of all of the things that you know it's like a quarterback. trying to hit a moving target. Calculations that have to happen. If you can do that with your .223 or with your .308 Arena, the .50, Mark the .50 caliber shooter's association, we on occasion, I'll invoke that name of Skip Talbot for his, you know, his zero, a whole bunch of zeros and then a one. But he was the first member, you know. But he used to say, you know, well, it's far better to take your time and shoot and get it done, although When you get into it, there's even counter addiction in the best of intention because fast hit is better than a slow hit is better than a small hit is better than a small hit. When you want to be in a small group at a long range, into less than a 50 caliber or a thousand yards, discipline to even being fast in shooting, that happened so fast because the shooter wanted to stay in basically the same, into the same, not the smallest group. and the smallest group he's ever shot, the smallest group ever recorded from a 50 at a thousand yards in competition. We'll sit and I'll tell you, move your feet flat across the floor, you know, try to work. But many times when we do this, these are broad brush and they are not. You know, Mike, you know what I'm trying to say here. When we sit and talk, this is what we in the field, it might be the same thought line, but it might come out different. Sure, the principles remain the same but you get a very, your tactics a little bit. Exactly. Yeah. Mind, you know, you guys, I carry a coin or anything. I carry a 1903 silver dollar for a particular, one of the reasons is 1903, think about it, Ford Motor Company in the middle part of the, Harley Davidson, Harley Brothers and the Davidson Brothers. built their first motorcycle in 1903. Not to mention there toward the end of the year, down there on a little windy little island down there in North Carolina. You know what it says on a North Carolina license plate? First in flight. You know, I'm talking about the Wright brothers there, you guys. 1903 was a very good year for America, not that we could never experience a year like that again. But 1903 was a very innovative year for America. And I expect that from a lot of people, that word there, that innovation. and it doesn't necessarily have to be in mechanics or winged the way you address your field. So again, when we sit here and talk, and I've been here before, there's a Chinese naval intelligence and there's a Chinese army intelligence because for a while there were a whole bunch of people listening in China and then it was back to two people again. Chinese art's there and he's writing everything down and recording everything and telling his superior, this is the way that the American militia will work. because this is what Don and Mark said. Well, you know what? That gentleman's got it all wrong. He's in trouble. He's got it all wrong. We get recommendations for a reason because I know that there's a thousand different minds out there leading other people or working with other people. who will take what we've offered and they're going to use parts of it but they have another idea of how to do things. That makes our fighting force another key component here totally unpredictable. Mike down there where you are, there's a lot of militia units down there in Texas aren't there? Yes sir. Now real quick before I go any further I want to ask something. Have you been to YouTube and checked out TX militia's channel? I saw one deal that looked kind of like a piece of Okay, check this out. It's on YouTube. It's TXTXM. Actually, malicious, but it's actually malicious, so I would assume malicious channel. Let me double check to make sure. No, it's TXM. The T is capital, the X is capital, the M is capital, and then militia. check out the page and again at the very least you know will be complimentary be you know decent take a look at what they've done uh... and again just get ideas for what you need is we need more work in general to be done but here's the thing if you were to look at what's a more like don't what you're saying what's what's out there in the system guys we have tread heads we have artillery buffs we have individuals who are into World War II reenactment, civil war reenactment. I mean we have people from all walks of life in the firearms circles especially, that the bad guys are going to be thinking they can deal with. Each takes from their experience and also from their research and then is organized accordingly. It's one of the reasons that I have high confidence in militia forces for that reason. There is no way you can pigeonhole the force. You've got light mechanized, you've got a heavy mechanized, you have unconventional, what you might call the rat patrol, where everybody's basically a rat pack with light mechanized, those in four wheelers, dune buggies, etc. And everything in between. You've got aviation assets of all types, of all ilks, there we go, all variation you can imagine. in rifles and in weapon systems, all the sky's the limit. And God help you. Anybody who's stupid enough to start this, let me put it this way. There's so much stuff that once this thing kicks in that's coming out of the woodwork, that it's not going to be just supplied for a short period of time. I'm going to laugh when I watch that. Most everybody who's had time to look at this problem has looked at the logistics issue. We already are looking at light production. Everybody has already taken into consideration how can we make more and how can we make what we need when we need it. We don't need to build it immediately in some cases because we don't want it to go stale, so to speak. But when the time comes, you're looking at a massive number of people with a wide array of experience and knowledge and they can apply it. and we're not going overseas, we're not having to jump on a plane, lift halfway across the planet, lose 25% of our troops to air casualties, lose another 10% to air landing, and then finally get on the ground with half the fighting force and your logistics trained questionable. We're not fighting like that. We're on our support base. Not only can we hunt them down, but we can have logistics support there as needed and be pulling it right there with us or drawing off local allies. That's one of the things that has been discussed over and over again, and everybody must be prepared for this. This is why, and everybody knows it's been listening to this program for any period of time, that's why I promoted the 510 program from the beginning. We have to have a deep logistics system, first at the tactical level, and then overall strategic stacking, which of course will build up as we create deep water at the tactical level. It has to be done by the individual. It can't be done by any pod or any corporation or any business. It won't get done that way. It won't work. Well Mark, tactically speaking, Mark and Mike, I have to stand down. Uh oh. Have you got to take off then for the evening? Yes, I do. Be careful. Oh yeah, time of day when the deer are moving. That's right. I don't have to move. If I leave now put the half inch pipe on the front remember the vertically horizontal ones with the angle cut and the blood flutes that way when you shish about over the front of the car they'll be bled up by the time you get to where you're going home. Yeah, they don't dance off into the woods. Yeah, well, they twitch sometimes on the pipe. Just keep them from dragging under the car. You know how that scuffs the meat up. Thank you, Mike. God bless you both. Thank you, Mike. So, Mike, again, I think I heard another beep. Do we have another caller? I heard it earlier, maybe a patient listener, so I understand we'll wait on that one. But Mike, what else have we got for us? Anything else? Yeah, it looks like we're heading into economic collapse, so I just want to tell everybody to buy the guns and ammunition they can. I think guns and ammo is better than money in the bank. You spend a lot of money if you go to a full-time gun store where several people make their living from it. You can't find a real good deal at a gun show. Another way to do it is find part-time dealers that will sell guns on a cost-plus basis. Both ShotgunNews.com and GunBroker.com have web pages where you're going looking for a firearms license holder that's known as a gun dealer. You go and type your zip code in and it will tell you what gun dealer lives by you to charge. Usually a dealer that will charge $30 above the cost of the rifle you get. And there's a lot of websites that will tell you the dealer cost such as J&G Sales and Center Fire Systems, Classic Arms. A lot of people have started buying guns through GunBroker.com. A lot of gun dealers now have no problems with giving you a copy of their signed FFL and you can mail it with the US Post and Money Order to the gun supplier you're going to be buying it through. It comes in the Gun Dealer College, you can go to the House, the 444-73, do all the federal paperwork, and then pay them whatever charge he charges you for the gun on top of it. You can save a couple hundred dollars on a lot of guns that way. One of the big things here too is remember guys, we're looking at quantity and quality. There are some pretty decent systems as we benchmark the day, especially on Weapons Wednesday, that are available. And if you can find a cooperative individual in your area, treat them kindly. Remember, they've got to go through all the P.S. for the paperwork with the bat faggots. So, with that being the case... If they are willing to put up with that, again, they have to make something on the project that they are working on. They have to stay in business. I think it is the hardest thing for everybody to think of. It is a step that you have to consider a part of the playing the game cost. Like anything else, it's part of playing the game guys. There's a certain expense that just has to be accrued, has to be incurred, forgive me, and it's going to have to be dealt with by us. We have to take care of that. That way the guy's there next week when we come back and we want something else. And that's really something you've got to be thinking about. Right, or as far as ammunition goes, you don't have to go to a gun shop or a gun show or anything. There's all kinds of places on the internet that you can mail order the ammunition and UPS will take it right to your front door. Cheaper than you can get anywhere. And as a matter of fact, on that note, let's not forget, we've been... Ooh, I see something else here. But hold on a second. Well, I'll tell you what, real quick, AIM surplus. I want to make sure we cover that. AIM surplus has got 7.62x39 in SKS stripper clips, 40 rounds to a box for stripper clips, obviously in ammo. They have also 7.62x54 Polish in 5-round stripper clips for the moise and n' n' gantt. And although they did have them, it turns out as our callers have informed us, guess what? They had $5 AK mags. They are all gone, we will find out if they are going to get more. I am going to call AIM tomorrow and then I will be able to let people know on the air about that if they are going to be bringing another wave of those in. However, they do have some pretty good prices on steel mags, both Bulgarian and Romanian. And AIM Surplus also has a chrome line barrel washer AK, or about .380. You can't beat it for what it is, guys, especially since it has the original Romanian barrel. That's critical. And Romanian manufactured, apparently from one of the new plants with some American hardware on board. It is a good combo. Standard AK rifle does have the Vanette lug, does have the threaded flash hider capable barrel. So you can put an AK-74 flash hider on that for the 30 caliber range and make that a very comfortable weapon. AKs are not uncomfortable anyway, I know that. But there are a number of different options as far as configuration. The only thing that they don't offer with that Wasser AK is a cleaning rod. So, go to classic arms. They have a whole pile of AK-47 cleaning rods. If you don't have one for your rifle, get it, put it on the weapon where it belongs, then the weapon is complete. Remember, it's part of the package. You've got a cleaning kit in the buttstock. You need the rod to make the cleaning kit work. So, make sure that every weapon has the cleaning rod. Make sure that every weapon is complete, top to bottom. You do that now while you've got the time. Doesn't mean you're not going to lose stuff later. Example is I have What I think probably close to 120 to maybe 130 of just the standard buttstock insert cleaning kits for the AKs and SKS is simply because people are going to lose them. They're one of those items that you're going to need to replace. People are going to drop them, they're going to be fumbling around, accidents are going to happen, or people are going to be shot at. They don't get a chance to pick up what they have laying there in front of them. They get out with their skivvies, their boots, and their rifle and web gear, and that's about it. Well, that's good. They save the right things. Boots are hard to replace. Rifles, irreplaceable. Ammunition, irreplaceable. Web gear, almost irreplaceable. We can get you new clothes. As long as you show up with your hind end, even bare butt naked, with your boots, your weapon, and your web gear, everything else can be taken care of easily. The little trinkets and tidbit parts, we're saving them up now, and we bought them when they were cheap. Mike, on that note too, again, 510 Program, you guys have been working on that down there. Yes, sir. We go right along with your 510 Program mark, and we tell everyone that comes to our training exercise to go home and recruit five or ten men in their own neighborhood. uh... because of the motion ever really needed you can depend on the click transportation you cannot be depend on telecommunications it might be written to grab and again blow up we're looking at right now uh... Oh, we had a couple of decent sale items that were brought up on the Friday show with Quartermaster Friday. And I would point out that Webgear, for instance, guys, to do a 5.10 program with regard to just Webgear is not that outrageous. Easily for between $20 to $25 you can get all the basic kit together. No, it's not going to be MOLLE gear, but it's going to be nice. It will be very effective equipment. easily used, easily maintained, easily adjusted for the operator. So we shouldn't have a problem understanding how to use it, put it together. The idea is that you have five sets of everything and when the time comes, well, five people either if they show up bare butt naked in their new recruits or if they show up because they were already outfitted but they were maybe the first to be attacked. Maybe the first one on your block. If that's the case, are you ready to resupply them to make them combatants that can effectively integrate into your combat unit? That's how you have to be thinking. You may be the person in that situation. That's another way to be thinking. That's why everybody equips the same way. Not the same way, but everybody equips in the 510 program the same way. So if somebody shows up, we can instantly refuel them. Now, another reason that this has to be in place is something I mentioned earlier too. Things get shot. Not just people get shot. You know, Mike, you walk through a battlefield situation, get out the other side and start looking around and you realize, man, I got holes where there shouldn't be. Well, something's leaking. My canteen's not working right. It feels awfully light right now. Hey, that was a nice $50 camel pack you're wearing. It's now a $50 caliber, shall we say, bullet keeper. Things pass through it without hitting you. And unfortunately, no water and no ticking, no washing. It's no longer a camel pack. It's a flat back. Well, what have you got to replace it? How are you going to integrate or what are you going to do to integrate other systems to replace what it is that was being used if it's a little different? Consider this too. You're not throwing anything out. Equipment that's damaged or equipment that is shot goes into the recycling bin. Category 3. Why? Well, snaps, pins, connectors, material, even for just patching. I may not be able to use that Camel Pack again, but it's probably going to be in digital, three-colored desert, could be in woodland, might just be in OD green. That's a material that I can use for other projects. So one thing to think about when you're recycling gear, how can it be reused in other ways? You might just cannibalize it for all the parts, pieces, and assemblies to make repair kits that you're carrying with your gear. And there again, nothing is wasted. Nothing, laces get disconnected, zippers get cut off, buttons get disconnected or taken off, Velcro gets cut off in a patch form because you'll restitch it and use it somewhere else. You name it, whatever it is, it's cannibalized for the next project. So that's the other reason for the 510 program. On that note with weapons, it's purely a matter of wallet. Obviously it'd be really nice if everybody had a brace of five AKs on the rack. Extra. But we know that's not likely the case. So, Nagants, K98 Mausers, you name it, hell for that matter, pump shotguns guys. You might have a sipping well or somebody's got a hole, like a pawn shop and they got a 12 gauge pump shotguns of whatever off-name brand you can think of. Yeah, you can buy the Remington 870 for $400, but you can buy a Savage pump gun for about $100. Hey. 5 or 4 pump guns for the price of 1. And you know what? It'll work just fine for a guy showing up that a few minutes ago lost most of equipment because he got blown off a piece of gear off a vehicle or something. And he's still breathing, but his equipment isn't. Well, here you go. It's a 12 gauge. Better than nothing. Congratulations. And now you get to work. Now that person can continue to contribute to the engagement or continue to contribute to the overall battle. and he's going to be on a quick learning curve with regard to the weapon that's been handed to him. If it's an SKS, there we go, he's on an upswing right there. Whatever it is, it's going to work. If I have to hand him a .22, sorry, it's going to work. It's what you're going to have to use for the time being. Just apply it accordingly. Mike, training exercises coming up, anything that's on the schedule on the horizon? Yes, sir. This coming Saturday, week from Saturday, August 28th by Woodville, Texas. It's about 90 miles to Houston. We're going to camp out and start again at 6am Sunday morning and go till about 1pm Sunday afternoon. It's my invitation to get an invitation to go to Texas Militia, the info email address there. Send us an email and an invitation to the training exercise. in different parts of the country. Certainly can be used during the fall season or the brownout season like in Texas or up here in Michigan. It's mint condition, MOLLE II backpack systems, USGI issue. You get the main pack, kidney pad and quick release buckle, padded quick release backpack straps, sleeping bag carrier and chest strap. Missouri is where this is located. $60 for one pack, two packs, complete system for $100. and the phone number you want to find out more guys you can call is probably wonder where all the calls come from 816-359-7945 again that 816-359-7945 that 816-359-7945 this is a nice rig it's the equivalent to the assault two systems by you know in fact I have one of the prototypes that probably is the model for this backpack. It was given to me by the manufacturer when I was running around the country. When this was being tested out, they had a large and a small, actually a large and a medium. The large was available. I said nobody wanted a large. I was like, okay, I'll take that. Looks like 90 pounds worth of junk when you load it up. Yeah, I know. Anyway, these packs are pretty utility in that there's a lot of different ways you can hook them up. If you've got the Alice packs, stick with them. But if you're looking for a system and you also need brownout camouflage, depending on your area of operation, this can also have to do with the fact you might be in mountainous terrain. You've got a lot of rocks, you've got a lot of debris. And this color range will probably work for you. So think about it. Again, it's $60 for one pack, $2 for $100. That's not bad. $50 a system. And there is a picture. Now, if you want to go to the site. Let's see its arms list, www.armslist.com, forward slash posts, forward slash 48814, forward slash Kansas dash city dash hunting dash for dash sale dash desert, Molly dash Ii dash back dash system dash mint. Now, you'll have to replay that. I'm not going to repeat it. But if you want to call to find out about these packs, this is the easiest way to do it. You want to find out how many he has. If you're going to buy more than one, you get a better price. Maybe if you buy them all, you get a better price. You never know that, right Mike? Yes sir. For web gear, for U.S. calibers like .223 and .308, there's a lot of pistol belts around. All you do is get a pistol belt and suspenders and then find your magazine pouches that are either like .14. and you can easily put together a way to carry your ammo. AK right now Center Fire Systems has a Chycom 3 pouch, a chest pouch, AK 30 round magazines, and they're only $10. And they're heavy camouflage, Kedure nylon, and they're pretty good for something made by the Chinese. The AK magazines are longer. you really need something truly made for the the uh... it can make things exactly and that's what they do remember is just because it looks like it's a right size guys get a little research don't just assume if it's if it is a big a pouch yes it will fit air fifteen mags they're gonna pop around a little bit but they'll fit in but not vice versa so uh... if you're going to be uh... coming up with a working on putting together system coming up with a package do a little research, ask questions. We always give you the phone numbers for a reason. Talk to these people, find out if this is something that actually will fit your needs. Because a lot of times there's stuff that, well, it looks really cool, it would be nice, but it just doesn't match my necessity. And it has to be, if it isn't serviceable, if it doesn't work ergonomically for it, if it doesn't match the weapon system you're using, you may look really cool, and you'll make a really great corpse, but you'll serve no purpose in the field. You'll agree to the movies until the first bullet flies and you won't look very pretty at all. So we don't want to see that happen. We're worried about function and we're worried about fit. We want to make sure you're comfortable and that the system works for you. One more time on this with these MOLLE, these are MOLLE backpack systems. This is the USGI MOLLE II. $60 for one, two for ten, forgive me, two for $100. The phone number is 816-359-7945. That's 816-359-7945. And it's the web page for this guy is cjenterprise.com. Mike, you want to check him out probably because it looks like the guy probably has done a little surplus sales at the auctions is what he's done. Sure. And if it's desert or something doesn't blend in real well with your green environment, you can always go to China Mart, Walmart, and get a can of OD. of spray paint in the new really unique m what pattern as a matter of fact guys now here's the other down that thank you for bringing up to this something worse are you experiment with i've got a piece of armor out here when the play with uh... it's uh... fabric the fabric covered and uh... what we've already done that the other site is uh... the guys who already sprayed it with this cloth spray there's new cloth paint that's made in it matches all of the long furniture colors which means you have tactical colors already available. Now the neat part about this is it is designed to spray on nylons or cottons or whatever you're using plastic cloth or high cotton, you know, but plastic cloth. So think about this, go over to find where these are on the shelf and by the way I think two different companies are making the paint right now, Krylon is one of them. You can look and see what color would probably be complementary and could be used to enhance the pattern that you already have. Let's say that you've got that and maybe those browns will work to a degree, but you need some greens. You need a loam and maybe you want a little bit of a gray green to mix in so you get those desert slash or the mountain foothills type colors. Well, there you go. Now just again, if you're not worried about it, we're not worried about looking pretty. We're looking at function. And it still will look pretty decent if you do a good job. The idea is experiment. Before you start spraying your gear, get some junk. Find something else you can practice with and practice spraying patterns. Then when you get over to your gear, gee, it's going to look pretty decent. And remember, try not to be too patternish, because that is one of the biggest problems. Humans like symmetry. But, nature isn't necessarily going to be putting one rock in the same place next to the other, equidistant apart. Have you ever found that in nature, Mike, where the rocks are all the same distance apart and exactly patterned perfectly in any place? No, no, you've got to take a look when you sit something like that. It's not natural. Right, exactly. So you've got to break it up and you need to think, close your eyes and target randomly. There's the best way to describe it. However, you want to add a couple other shade colors perhaps. And again, the medium green with a gray green typically will complement the three color quite nicely and will give you a good disruption pattern when the time comes. Anyway, I don't know what else CJEnterprise.com has, but you know what, they're closer to you, Mike, than they are at us. Might have something decent worth checking out. Okay. And anything else for us before we close here? We're going to be leaving in a minute, because I know we're going to hear the music. No, sir. God bless you, Mark. Well, David, stay with me. You're going to close. We're going to close together. Another reminder, guys, we have Don's night vision two-disc set. i want feedback on that if you can we get a chance maybe tomorrow call in and uh... what is not what you think specially with down on the air uh... we want feedback on this he's working on yet another you know extension of this video because we've got some other thermal impact other technology we're going to incorporate and uh... you know in yet another scenario uh... this is going to be to demonstrate patrolling operations etcetera now we're perfecting some of the equipment that's going to be used for filming. We're having to build it ourselves. It doesn't come off the shelf. It's going to be put together. This is going to be phase three. The first was the tutorial that Don did. The second is the instructional piece, which is two discs. Don't compress it. The only thing I ask you is this. If you copy it, and we expect you to copy, please take the time to copy it on two discs. We could have compressed it ourselves, but you would have lost all of the What you see on those discs is exactly what you see in the night vision scopes But you don't have to turn your machine on and burn hours on it You can watch the disc to develop a basic skill and understanding of what you're going to see when you do turn your machine on Every minute you can save is another minute you have for the battlefield with that night vision technology guys We want to use it where it counts. Mike, what's the top? Alright, we'll get to the Satanic New World Order. Ooh-rah. God bless the Republic. We will prevail. Ooh-rah, we sh... Well, we will prevail. God bless. I'll tell you what, we will be back. Dutch is coming up right behind us. Thank you, Mike. Thank you, Mark. 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