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We were trying to find girly bears by rolling around in your garbage. Yesterday was all-you-can-eat fish day. That means it's all-you-can-roll-in fish day at the dump today. you'll be able to smell that bear long before you see him so there's no way you should get caught on the ground with a hope worker there but with a more like almighty got a bear all of them take him the other will scare him off but anyway then down the bottom of our fiddler crabs cheering roll across the ark of the gulf mexico devastated nothing but leathery bone and skin when we were you know that the coast is dead everybody affected if you like it like uh... on the beach dot there's little skeletons bikinis and stuff on the beach and that's all you'll find and dead things. The whole population of the Gulf of Mexico as far as fishy thingies on the beach, skeletons, lots of crawdads chewing away and birds from the air and nothing but the pall of battle deaths everywhere. It's not like that, but that's okay. It should have been. Anyway, would have been. Well, maybe it will be still. We'll see what happens. Across to Louisiana. We're not supposed to mention it. They're gone. Texas. Well, East Texas must be gone. The only thing left is maybe West Texas because it's not near the water as much. It's still close. up to Oklahoma where they ignored everything that's going on. They're pumping oil like there's no tomorrow. Yep, and they're putting oil rigs in every day too, by the way. We saw that. Then all the way to Nebraska, big trunk and chunk there, across the Wyoming, across and over to the Golden Spike Project, all up and down the ridges there, guys. That's right, the Golden Spike with the restaurant crew, the gravity teams and the okay teams, and the fantastic work that they are doing there. But Don, it's a rainy day, but what is the day today out there? Well, Mark, by uh... the paper day of august and if it europe are it's wednesday the eleventh yeah it is it's worth it but i don't know whether the kept what every time you got a wednesday all you got the flight to bed i think you recall it in the original movie that exactly what they did is to send it out the second floor window the problem is you don't turn away you keep reloading the mag and pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop-merch a demand while keeping your eye on the target you never know what you're trying to leap up and disappear out of the scene we wouldn't let that happen in our movie now would we click click both on that note on horror movie notes at friday the thirteenth and many others there's one it was one of the first i've seen where for a chill life and it was i don't know the name of this movie i thought somebody also find it was to let talk about it but the army do the ball got together you know that special warfare unit that always dropped out of nowhere and there are moments noticed on whenever there's a problem and they show up in their all geared up but they can't you know they're supposed to be the sharpest guys on earth and they you know they're going along with the guy that knows where the monsters are and so this is of course always back door cave and the back door cave is where you figure some of the monsters are obviously guarding whatever's going on so yep sure enough outcomes the creature and everybody cut loose it's why you got you've got flames come out everybody's weapon right and all magazines were the creature drops to the ground and then the one guy is in charge he starts walking forward and he reaches out to grab the monster and turning over but the shot they always turn to you know how this is the camera shot changes down and the angle is looking at the paper and you think you know the monsters laying there but if eyes crack open and just about that time of the guys reaching for me i go to know what you do it wait a minute get back here the guy steps back in the next thing is a fire and everybody got a little bit of time it only the difference is obviously the monster can understand english because the monsters eyes were kind of split And just about the time you use fire, you see the eyes bulge open like, oh, this possum didn't work. And that's right, it didn't because at that point, not only is he swish cheese, but he used chunks of stuff. Now that's how it's supposed to work. Remember, it's harder for the chunks to get back together to stab you or bite you or harm you, right? That only happens in the weeds. Yeah. Fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, fire, That's right, I'm very nervous. Keep fighting, that is the nervous reaction. Anyway, I just want to bring it up. My only guy that really probably is to heart with us that I've seen in movies did the tongue in cheek, Army of Darkness. Evil Dead, Army of Darkness, the main character, remember the chainsaw for him? Remember he kind of responded that way with everything that he did. What are you doing? No way! Let's just deal with it. Click, click, boom. This is my boom stick. Now it is weapons win. And by the way, that 45, Don, you've probably got an eight-router in there, correct? In the mag, yeah. So there's nine guys out of, well, 13 you might have to deal with that might show up that at least are going to know they've got perforations. But you know, you can get larger mags for the 45 guys. And in fact, they make a very reliable, before these really good custom mags like the ones you're carrying, Don. The really serviceable eights are out there in force now. And there's no reason not to have them and progressively buy them. the only debate that we've had for years for instance with some of our people is and again i understand the argument that uh... was brought forward by james westley rolls one remember he'd done they had bought forty five and then he said uh... what we sold all of our old uh... you know sir older mags and went to a larger capacity mag and we've been only a certain brand etcetera etcetera my argument still is gun parts and guns are for buying not for selling And even though they were some aftermarket mags, the point is, and this is true with all of your handguns or any of your weapons, I know that some aftermarket mags don't work as well as others, okay, as far as the cheapies. I am going to use my weapon, I in fact have magazines that have been marked with malfunction, an M on them. Doesn't mean mark, means malfunction. Now, where do you suppose if I'm training a young person to use a 45, how would I use that malfunctioning magazine? What would I use it for? What am I trying to teach? Well, to teach fast action. And the important thing about this too is, again guys, you'll know that certain mags might have a certain type of malfunction. Some people build magazines that create intentional malfunctions. Oh, did you know that? And the reason for this is so that your immediate action drills are repeated over and over and over. And we don't tell you when they're going to take place, by the way. That's not the idea. That doesn't work. That doesn't bode well. You see what I mean? In other words, we want you to have to act immediately. We don't want you to guess in advance. Oh, I know this is magazine number four, and magazine number four will have the stovepipe malfunction, or will have the failure to feed. And I, let's see, will do this, this, and this. That's not how it works. Immediate action means that it should be a responsive drill that takes place over and over again so that when the time comes you don't even think about what needs to be done upon evaluating the problem. See how that works? Now, again, the other thing that debaters this, all mags are good mags. There's a reason because at a given point you're going to drop them, you're going to break them, you're going to lose them, they're going to get shot, they're going to get bent, folded, spindle and mutilated. People do too, by the way. and the biggest problem you've got guys is better to have something you can put in there as opposed to nothing uh... if i have a whole bunch of magazines back in the day they're not that cheap anymore but you know we were buying the aftermarket forty five mags seven shotters you know seven shot seven round four uh... uh... two dollars two dollars and fifty cents apiece now were they real fancy mags no they're not with the government pattern if they were where they uh... the most durable mag in the market no but I can take that bag to the range, wear that mag out and save my best mags for combat operations. I will understand how to use them. And by the way, let's say for instance, Don, do yours have a bumper on the bottom? Oh, some of my stainless. Now you know that. Yes, now the thing about it is that if you don't have, let's say that you're trained, because some people say, well you've got to have exactly what you're trained with. Well, Mark's pretty well got wherewithal, and I think I've got enough gray matter that I can figure out a way to make a mock-up bumper to go on my dummies, my bad ones, not bad ones, but my cheaper mags, so that for training I get all the fit and feel that I need so that when I switch back over or when I switch over to the other mags, I'll have no problem. But I should say this. Those magazines will consider Don just what you said you've got stainless mags blue mags seven shot mags eight shot mags yup in any way shape or form are you gonna change how you're operating other than to keep track of the rounds fired Oh No and keeping track of the round fight can be done with different X you guys I have again I get in the gun right now. I have a bumper I have to look at even the color can be an indicator and we a number of you have seen it I've talked about camo or unreal handy to you guys. You can put those... can feel the tops of you know by placement. Well, the one at the front is behind that is nothing but. Now you can put down range kind of selectively what you need in that instant, right? And that even goes fast action. Might the mag out and let everything on your slide gone and you just hit, I mean, unless something is majorly a number of times. Oh, who done? Ow! Quick, fire, return fire, please! And even with body armor. Tru- Okay. always remember that armored the body armor is designed to keep you from being perforated but it doesn't mean it's going to stop all the kinetic energy transfer okay fuel so the important thing there is remember the idea of the also why and this is another point this is something that's true remember cover first then fire this is hard for a lot of people if you're stuck in a very unique situation yes return fire even suppression or attempted suppression fire is not desirable granted everybody typically trying to get the hell out of the way if you're if you're in the front exchange of of gunfire but if somebody has prepped an ambush uh... your probably granted a lucky shot night we're gonna say that but you typically if you're expanding ammunition just throwing it down range in the guesstimate you may not be suppressing at all and you've just lost precious rounds you can't replace because you're stuck in a situation where there will be no resupply. If you're pinned down or you're locked into a position, every round counts. Contrary to what some people will tell you, if you're in, especially, an unconventional warfare situation, No airplane will show up. No helicopter will kick something out of the side door. You don't have a massive logistics train that's going to promise that there's going to be someone... ...coming over the hill. That's right. You are the Koolie. You congratulations. What you carry is what you fight with. You have to be better than the other guy at performance in general. This means cover and then return fire and intelligently. Does it mean that sometimes you'll suppress? Sure. uh... i would recommend that you will get in there analysis go to the basics on this one the old ideas that we'll determine the threat return fire or or engage the target even as it's as it's engaging you depend upon the evaluation if the aggressor is undercover don't you think the aggressor is stabilized in other words if he's undercover prepared an ambush he's already decided where he want to shoot from these resting So firing on the move, unless you've had a lot of practice, then you're going to learn real quick why you need a lot of practice. And that's one of the reasons we do what we do on the range. Now let me point this out. I've been on the range before, I've had enough experience of this, and I intentionally will belly rounds. In fact we've done this before, we will have fire maneuver, and rather than taking the chance on the move of a round straying over the impact area, I'll belly around close by because I'm participating but in a different way. I'm not necessarily, I'm not supposed to be suppressing the target, but I'm providing fire support in a mutual movement phase. That can be, that's done so you still get the crack, crack, crack and people are familiar with the idea that with fire maneuver you actually get a feel for the motion. In some cases you may want to drop the round in front of a target because the bullet splash alone creates or does more damage than perhaps the round trying to get through something. If someone is hiding behind a car, oh that means you're going to send up Conch 5 out of that 1911. Now imagine, like you know how it's a direct... Equal opportunity guys with regard to energy. If it hits something else, it may slow down whatever's hit but the energy is transferred to that object which... be traveling then at the same velocity or near the same velocity of the original object. Now another thing is scimitarring. Personally, I'd rather get shot directly with something than something that's scimitarred out. Be quite honest. Because, think buzzsaw. Yeah, and it will also follow like a .22. It has tendency to follow the path of least resistance and will create an irregular wound channel. A very unique and irregular wound channel. This is something that we have to look at too with regard to, again, for regressing against someone, maybe they'll get away. But in future scenarios where there is no medical support, if they were not prepared, then a serrated wound or a damaging wound like that with an irregular wound channel is lethal to an aggressor that might be a brigand or a scallywag who doesn't have any infrastructure. And that's most likely the case. So you got him one way or another. They retreat, but they retreat injured, then they retreat technically dead. something to think about. And again, most of the enemies you're facing will not have any support infrastructure. They will not have the working knowledge because they feel they're going to parasite up everybody else. They don't need to prepare. They'll be stealing from everybody else. And accordingly, they'll run until they, well, drop. And they'll be dropping sooner if we have our way. Real quick on this too, again with the 45, the 45 comes in a number of different configurations. But most of your short frames, even though they may have a special cut mag, let's not forget that a lot of the backup .45s will take a standard 1911 magazine in a pinch. Now you're going to have a lot of extra mag hanging down below that shorty little pistol grip there if it's a little back up. That's right, but it is awful nice. You have a lot more flash boom-boom when the time comes. So that's another thing to look at when you're acquiring arms or if in your team or unit you have multiple .45s of different types. Some people are only carrying backups, such as what they've committed to. You're not going to be able to bend anybody's arm on that. But, you know, important is if they are going to be thinking that way, try to get them to lean towards magazine compatible and standard to the rest of the team. That would be good. Now, sometimes you've got to suffer with, what can I afford? and we've talked about this before the hand cannon that is that there's a differential there it'd be nice to everybody on the same page but wallet speaks for itself in many cases nowadays especially with the depression think ahead start thinking you know how can we integrate rock we do more to make this make this work for us on that note working on things down and by the way kt ordinance Yeah, this is I got something about something else I that are one of our chatroom friends found the forest. Thank you guys I really appreciate this too Makes a big difference Let me go over here favorites because I just threw this up here now this is oh, let's see Open source machine. There we go. Now. I want to say thanks to the guys there forgive me I have been trying to find my books on this and I have them stored away. But Don, on converting the blocks of V8s or 6 cylinder in-line engines to machine shop tools, to making a machine shop, right? Well, there's a web page, guys. And the neat thing is, if you have one of those K-T ordinance thingies, it would finish everything for you. And what's cool, made from car parts. Well, what's really cool is made from engine parts and the site is self-explanatory But I'm gonna repeat it more than once because a lot of you people are listening via the archive in the next several days My voice is echoing to the future to the future from the past I'm sorry, that's a cheap 1984 guys. Remember every right? Well, we're doing that in a way we echo to the future constantly open source machine dot o RG write that down down open source machine dot org that's open source machine dot org that's open source machine or g now it's interesting about this is that uh... open source open design open ideas open minds while these guys don't like to work with us They are, as a matter of fact, as Nancy noticed, which is really cool. But the multi-machine, the multi-machine, a humanitarian, open source machine tool project for developing countries, or for the United States and collapsed guys, benefits the multi-machine, all purpose machine tool that can be built by a semi-skilled, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, du Mechanic with just common hand tools. For machine construction, electricity can be replaced with elbow grease, and the necessary material can come from discarded vehicle parts. What can the multi-can be used for in developing countries? Agriculture, building and repairing irrigation pumps, and farm implements. Water supplies, making and repairing water pumps, and water well drilling rigs. Cool idea there. Food supplies, building steel rolling and bending machines for making fuel efficient cook stoves and other cooking equipment. Transportation, anything from making cart axles to rebuilding vehicle clutch, brake and other parts. Education, building, now this is something right out of the old guild guys. Building simple pipe and bar bending machines to make school furniture providing hands-on training on student-built multi-machines that they take with them when they leave school. That's my kind of teacher. Guys, you build the machine that gives you your machine shop. That's how you learn your trade. Think about that. That's the way it should be. That's how things should work. Then I'll explain something down on that real quick, qualifying in a second. Job creation. A group of specialized but easily built multi-machines can be combined to form a small, very low-cost, middle-working factory, which could also serve as a trade school. Students could be taught a single skill on a specialized machine and be paid as a worker while learning other skills that they could take elsewhere. Features. How can an easily built machine tool that is made with a junk be all purpose? and also accurate? Pretty simple. In almost every kind of machining operation, either the work piece or the cutting tool turns. If enough flexibility is built into the parts of a machine tool involved in these functions, the resulting machine can do almost every kind of machining operation that will physically fit on it. You may have heard of a 3-in-1 machine or machine tools, basically a combination metal, metal lathe, mill, and drill press. The multi-machine starts there but adds many other functions. It can be a 10-in-1 or even more machine tool that is built by using vehicle engine blocks in the Lego like fashion. Multi-machine uses six unusual construction techniques to build five very simple modules that bolt to a worn out or broken vehicle or industrial engine block. Hey, wait a minute, it doesn't have to be a brand new one, the real type tolerances. The tolerancers are more than sufficient with an older engine even though it may be worn out. The reason for that guys though is think about it, all of the bearing surfaces and all the critical surfaces are not affected by typically what malfunctions in an engine think about that that's the key to this now i'm not going to read for you guys can take advantage of it yourself here but for those of you who are looking for machine technology and we were talking about this before now these guys have worked this all out this is neat this is one variation on the same process as i talked about several years ago and brought up last week that's why somebody in some bills notice i mentioned a couple times last few weeks now and So we picked up on this and they found the site for us. I want to say thank you and I appreciate that. Again, it's open source, not open source, open source. That's open, O-P-E-N-S-O-U-R-C-E-M-A-C-H-I-N-E dot O-R-G. And the cool thing is, I'd be willing to bet this has, well there's a whole lot of information on this through the whole thing. It's really cool. But there's an illustration of the technology, the machine itself, guys, and how it's put together. And what's really neat is, something that is, as pointed out, it can all be done with existing hand tools. with existing technology in hand and elbow grease. The key word here is you have to use some elbow grease. Now, Don traditionally were the machinists of the 1700s when the American Revolution was coming about. The traditional machinists built step by step all of his tools to include most important leveling block. That was the center of all the work that was ever done. And the whole secret of each step of the trade was taught to the guilds, you know, to the apprentice until he was part of the guild. and lo and behold when he was done not only had he learned the trade but he took all the tools with him and therefore would become and develop his own mastery of the attorney card or exactly so we have some really you know again some cool solutions here guys one of the things to remember to build weapon systems and put them together even that 45 that Dom's Latino got right there there is a counterpart KAT ordinance and KAT ordinance they done most of the elbow work with some of the finest machinery on the planet, CNC Machinery guys. What's left to do could be done even with a whole just a handful of hand tools. But with a multi tool like this or several of them set up, each step could be completed by an individual. You could teach them to use the machine. They do the work and all they do is grind, grind, a little more oil, a little more oil, grind, grind, grind, grind, cut, cut, cut, cut. little more oil, little more oil, drip, drip, drip, little more oil, drip, drip, done. And when you're finished, it'll look just like that thing you just heard on the air that had that magazine flapped into it. Wouldn't that be nice? Except it's a Liberty Arm. And you made it, and you know where it came from, and you know the very day of its birth. If you felt like it over there on the cereal, you could write, My Gun. Yeah, that's right. If you wanted to. Or My Gun 2, T-O-O. Sure. Or My Gun 3. So again, solutions guys, not just the money, but the problems. One more time on this and the guys in the chat room can repost this. Open source machine dot org. Open source machine dot org. We cannot just have the basics like, you know, we need something to make the perishables with guys. This is the tool technology. Think you can find a blown out engine somewhere? Yeah, I know you can. And in fact, again, be creative. There are a number of different options here of how things can be put together. The other thing about weapons and general weapons systems, now that 45 is a little more complicated, but as we pointed out, K.T. Ordnance went way beyond the little guy in the grass hut with the rice hat, taking that chunk of railroad tie and looking at it and going somewhere amongst all that extra metal, there's a 45 frame. And you know what? Oh, that's a challenge. Yeah, with a rat tail file, he just started a certain process, guys. and a chunk of all that's right you also had a chunk of uh... hacksaw blade that one american through a way and tossed over in the dump or the dumpster over there and he carefully went over and got it or a box of chinese road uh... hacksaw blades which is almost like not having hacksaw blade all the way and he yeah he very diligently just went one cut one cut one cut One cut is the stroking very carefully, very uniformly one stroke after another, or a rat tail file to do the same thing. Take your pick. Think about how many ways was it done, as many ways as the creative mind could come up with a solution. And when they were done, all of the extra material was missing and that 45 frame was sitting there to be found. just exactly as people expected it to look. It looked pretty much like one too. Oh yeah. There are many variations in fit and finish, but that's another thing about the 45 is the design. It is a very forgiving handgun in terms of manufacturing. But that's because it was a very forgiving combat handgun designed to go into mud, blood, you know, the old mud and the mud and the bear routine right in the bar. In this case, with lots of mud all whipped your eyeballs. and still keep working. So with that being the premise, then duplicating a standard 1911, well hell yeah, you can build it to those tolerances and buy hand if need be. How patient are you? Now it doesn't mean you have to build the mags, though they typically even built one mag homemade or had to build them, but they usually kind of pilfered mags and purchased mags and bought magazines on the black market and bought one or two or three rounds of ammo on the black market and then maybe 10, maybe 15, maybe 20. and they'd have enough to load a couple of government mags that were attuned to fit into that custom made .45 and they would work. Pop, pop, boom, boom. That's how it is. So, there's another thing I want you to think about. Of course, K.T. Ordnance is far cry above the rice paddy .45. Oh, yeah. Now, other weapons that we have seen out there that are built, and again, because of conservative mindsets, uh... certain parts of the market were not taken up with a short so here's the thing to think about uh... don we had the money grip and that was a completely home-built rifle was it fifty caliber i think that's a big you're gonna get you we can't get much bigger off the market than fifty right not right now not right now we knew twenty but we're just talking off you want to go out there and go to amelman dot com you can find half-inch ammunition for a reasonable price Now let's take that same idea, take that same action. Why not scale it down using 4140 chromoly steel and all the same print specs guys? Let's scale it down so it fires a 5.45x39 round. member i brought this up a year and a half and two years ago and some people started the project but only one is actually followed through on for instance a five four five upper air fifteen receiver now there's a bunch copying him but you know how many times they talk to the guy before he actually did it seems like forever all i pestered him i really did i was one of few pet peeve projects why does it cost in joking with a mya did you get on that while i was thinking about it would you get on it while i was thinking about it And after the first one was built, everybody else followed. Don, all of a sudden, because then there were five, four, five barrels out there, oh, I can make one now, and then all of a sudden, like all these other companies start making five, four, five uppers. But the point is that that Motti Griffin design, guys, is so simple that, in fact, let's be honest, it's also the upper receiver design we just mentioned done by Ferret, you know, the Ferret 50, okay, by Dave. That design could be scaled right down to whatever caliber you want. And let's not go down to 545. Let's think about something else. How many of you guys out there are carrying Garand's or 1903 Springfield, 1917 Enfield? A lot of them out there, aren't there, Don? Oh yeah. The common caliber, yes. So since OTS-6 is a common caliber and because the basic design, that 50 caliber scaled down, everything just fits, boom. 30-06 chambering, a 30-06 barrel. Remember, it does not have a gas system, guys. This is a simple bolt. what does this do this means i can be carrying an op six or a two seventy or a whatever you you pick what it is you're going to build but you take the basic and you produce it no paperwork no place to know where it went or was coming from where it works going blah blah blah blah blah and by the way if you need barrels uh... circle has hundreds of of off knockoff barrels from other projects not barrel taken up military weapons i'm talking about project guns gun parts old new brick arms is another one They have pages and pages and pages of barrels 30 caliber, 8 millimeters, 7 millimeters, 9 millimeters that have not been for work chamber but they were for light rifle projects. So there's your barrel. You don't have to reinvent the wheel. They're all anywhere from 18 inch to 25 inch barrels or 26 inch barrels. So it's purely a matter of what you want to spend money on. Are they expensive? No. So you're looking at a barrel for as little Don as $10 to as high as $35 for a barrel American made Some whatever finish it's in that's what you're gonna stick it stuck with personally guys I would prefer a heavier barrel in a project like this. I want this thing rigid I want this thing to be a tack driver The reason is I've got my air 15 But all of a sudden I'm in a situation where I've rested and I've fallen back and I've got an opportunity to use a weapon with greater range and reach out to that thousand yard mark or 800 yard mark. Now I can do that with an M16 and golf ball it in so to speak, but how much energy do I have left at the other end? Not a whole lot, Don, right? Ah, the eternal question. Yeah. Oh, that didn't hurt that much. He looks like he's just peed and he knows where I am now. Oh, that's not good. So that's why again, look at the idea of a bolt action with scope fixed. Now think about this. Let me map it out for everybody listening. So anybody, I don't care who does this. I really don't. I have talked to every manufacturer and it's like, guys, how hard is this? It's not. We're not looking at semi-auto. There's no way anybody can say you're making a machine gun because we're not worried about semi-auto. We're looking at a bolt action design here. Tubular upper receiver, 4140 chromoly steel. Both assembly, 4140 or 4130 chromoly steel. We're looking at one or two spring parts. We're looking at a barrel. We're looking at a trunnion slash or a chamber block. That's the only thing that's going to require a little because it's going to have to be either threaded or pinned. Now, whether or not the thing is threaded or pinned is going to be determined, and ideally pinning is cheaper and easier. I'm going to mention that right now. Pinning is easier than threading and going through the threading process. But that doesn't mean you can't do it, nor should you not attempt it. But it will be determined by the barrel you buy, especially in the surplus. industry. Now I'm not talking military surplus, I'm talking industrial surplus barrels. That's what we're talking about the gun parts guy has companies that went out of business that had you know four thousand barrels left and they sold them to gun parts company as scrap back in the day. They've got 30 carbine barrels not carbine as an M1 carbine Don, but for special like single shot you know project rifles. They've got seven six Yeah, 7.62x25 barrels. Gee, what we got a lot of out there now? Oh, that's right. There's a whole pile of 7.60. Yeah. And guess what? In a bolt action, even if I have submachine gun ammunition which is hotter, it's not going to affect that bolt action at all, is it not? and you're going to have a, in fact that'd be a little nasty, little rotten tack driver because it'd be mean because the thing could be made quiet without by simply lengthening the barrel. That's where I was going to go you guys. If you're buying basically a barrel blank, buy it as long as you can. You can always, you know, we talked about this, but you just cut it too. Well the thing is Don, that's just it. A lot of these barrels that are available are in project lengths. because they were made for a company that was making variable custom barrels for you know for a gun that you would, you would down would order a gun and we make it to your spec. That's what they did. So these barrels are available and again what you do is you look at what can I afford. What's affordable? What's out there that I can buy that doesn't you know isn't costing, gonna cost my first born child. Now economic barrel, simple off-the-shelf steel stock. One or two other things you got to do because we're gonna pin this to the bot to a lower receiver on air 15. As far as, well now how do I mount the scope? Well, if it was 10 years ago, you actually might even have to make a picatinny rail that would work right. But you could mount it over Walmart. Oh my god, now you can go out down and open every catalog. And what shape and size and how many picatinny rails do you want to put something on? Oh yeah, what angle do you want it on? Yeah, oh yeah, now let's not forget that. We could actually put a side rail, top rail, front rail, back rail, under rail, underside rail. You know, there's one right now that's got five fixtures on it for the Mini-14. that all bolts in one place. Okay. Yes, exactly. It's like, whoa, and this is made out of aluminum. It's not made out of plastic. Okay. So, but it's all machined and it's very well engineered, it looks like, but it's just, man, that's a lot of gobbledygook. The point is that, for your scope system, buying and tapping and fitting to the top of that receiver, a picatinny rail for your scope mount for your rifle, or for receiver in whatever caliber, is nothing. Everything is off the shelf canned. It's purely a matter of how motivated you are. Now, you guys, when you're looking at... There's a couple things to think about there. You know, Armalite in their 50 in this thing, this is going to apply with your 30 cal too. Armalite offers two different inclinations in that rail. One's 15... 15% of a minute. The other is, they say you can get a thousand, but you'll be at the top incline in it. Or beyond that, you go with a full one-hole minute of angle in the rail. When you're building from this is the latest thing everything guys that's we're building this gun right right range is everything in fact I would point out to that especially this well first of all the one reason I proposed this design is because it's simple so simple that there's no reason that not every one of you listening out there couldn't build it if you have an air 15 one of the things you'll know we said before it's a piece of junk but it's a versatile piece of junk What makes it a neat weapon is the variable geometry idea that Stoner came up with right off the bat for that design. His innovative concept was sound. The biggest problem was that he was forced, but moved towards the woodchuck cartridge, the extreme woodchuck cartridge was a very interesting one to say the least, and part of it, and I would say this about Stoner, and he would probably not want to admit it, but you've got to remember stoner came from the fifties actually late forties and fifties engineering uh... school no from that tank that body of people he developed his interest in armaments based upon the thirty-odd six cartridge which was the dominant round of the day but even as he did this remember the there was already the subversion so to speak there was an undermining of the kingdom and that they wanted to go to you know change from the caliber something that was going to be a shorter round a little lighter you know but still the same basic knockdown power and a little less than the out six but based upon other theories that were developing well we go from uh... we would go into the extremely go from an intermediate cartridge which by the way the brits wanted to go to what was called seven millimeter assault It didn't pan out because nobody wanted to go to 7mm per se because there was such an inventory of 30 caliber everything. 30 caliber tooling, 30 caliber ammunition, 30 caliber, and including bullets and powder. Remember, if you don't change out too much, pretty much you can overlap with your production, you're not out anything. Money that you spent is still going to be spent on the project you're presently on when you change over. But what happened is, if you look at the standard 223, scale it to the 30 at 6. Stoner cheated like everybody else did in the day and that why worry about the pressure? You know you all you have to do is convert your tables to scale down for a 223 projectile 22 caliber projectile and all other dimensions all gas Coefficients all gas energy projections all of the other parts of the formula Don were already known Remember back in the day, computer was expensive. A mainframe IBM cost money to run. But on the other hand, if you were a little bit of a math whiz, it was not a big deal to sit down for a few minutes and come up with a transition scale for all of your energy variables. See how that works? That's what he did. I guarantee it. I know it just because look at the engineering look at the step in engineering He could have gone to and in fact had the opportunity to switch out two other Calipers at that time and to propose it since we were going to commit to a totally alien round What this afforded him was a quick conversion In other words, man, I want to try and trap this market. I got these rifles. I've already designed it In fact some you never heard of The Stoner rifle itself, well the Air 15 is a Stoner design. The Stoner rifle system, totally separate from the Air 15, was adopted by the SEALs and some other special warfare units temporarily. The SEALs adopted it and kept it through most of Vietnam. Again, a variable geometry design. The M18 slash AR180 as we know it in civilian life was another stoner idea. In all of these cases what he needed to do he had this beautiful AR10 design, minimal recoil, he got rid of the aluminum barrel with a steel sleeve insert, that was a mistake and he was forced on him, he actually didn't have a choice on that one, that was part of the contingency laid down. Yeah, it was like we got to lighten the rifle up so okay here's how we'll do it. Well he actually was prepared to put a steel barrel on the 308 model. and in fact they wouldn't let him change it out. So that's why the AR-10 fails. So here he's got this great design, doesn't beat the shooter. It's got some issues, but again, they can be lived with. And all of a sudden there's an opportunity because the math boys are out there, the beam counters, we know who that was during Vietnam guys, okay. Remember that because of the beam counters, they wanted something that would be cheaper and they want something totally new. So with a little bit of math from the OP-6 school, scaled down to whatever new caliber they come up with look what he had waiting in the wings and the rest of history now the rest of history were stuck with that cartridge okay i understand that Now, let's take a look at that rifle for what it does in its family or its category. It works beautifully. But Don, you know, we love our 50s. Everybody knows this, but we might want to have an intermediate rifle that works in between. Don't we? It's a little cheaper to send down range. Yeah. Now, we also still want to carry that AR because it only weighs 7 to 9 pounds. You know, 7 to 9 pounds. And because it depends on how much junk you put on it, guys. You put more lightweight junk on it and eventually end up with a heavy rifle anyway, don't you? Okay, so here we are with the AR-15, but now Don sees the target, Don knows he can hit it. Do we carry a completely separate rifle? Well, yes, we can. But what if we have a little Pelican case that's a little shorter than the average bear, but we pop it out and Don drops off that M16A2 upper. and pulls out that home built 30-06 H-bar with whatever power scope he's comfortable with and he pins it into the top of that receiver and he loads one round. Don, what are you going to do with that next? Oh, I'm going to make certain that that round is a match grade. And you've got a target. You're going to pay attention to so much you don't even know the gun went off. and we've taken our lightweight woodchuck rifle and turned it into a Garand type weapon as far as range goes or a 1903 Springfield or an M1D or whatever you want to, whatever you want to compare it to. But I'm still carrying that AR so that if it looks like it would be a little more trouble, then I can pop-pop with two pins, drop that, drop that upper that's got the OTS-6, clear it to make sure it's safe, lock that in, put it in the case, drop the other receiver, the other upper receiver back on, pip pip, and guess what chenk back in with the magazine and pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop Oh look at that. He just flopped over Don. I'm your spotter. He's not getting up. Change target time. Get out of here. Let's go. Okay. Click, click, boom, boom. You know, again, we might fire one more round for that position, but just to be safe, they might have some idea where we are. We've already put a target down. That's a good plus. We'll change positions. Now again, that's with a transition rifle, guys. The other thing I mentioned, pins. Okay. Guys, guys are going, well, pin barrel. Guys, how many of you have Chinese SKS's? How many of you have Chinese AKs? You might recall that that's one of the stipulations to ID the difference in the weapon is the older models have the threaded barrel. The newer models have a what? They got the pin. They got the pin. They got the pin barrel. They bought the cheaper. We saw American for a lot less money. Make right for $11. $11 American. Yeah, they were killing us at that. But here's the thing. How many of those SKS's have failed you guys? Any of them? Nope. I haven't heard of one. and i know guys that have beat twenty thirty thousand rounds from guys and again if they will survive that long that's you that's it if it's a bridging or a transition rifle i'd say that's enough to get you a few a hours eight days styro rifles you know whatever it is the other guys carrying chinese type defense rifles if you have if you haven't got one after twenty thousand rounds maybe because you like the thing so what you didn't plan on get rid of it anyway you haven't overtaken that motor pool yet either that's right exactly you have your bubble pop-up when you might have a church is karen s cast because you like it you know in the sense i know i i could get anything with an s k s what i know what point impact is on the play guys yes kisses a fine rifle i wouldn't hesitate you give me one of those i will i will say thank you that's just how it works you learn to take that tool in the toolbox and make it make it saying that's what you want to do uh... the other thing here too is that the techniques understand different techniques and i don't want you want to shave off that all that upper receiver that you're making from forty one forty chromatic tubular etc. etc. So it's already a straightforward design. Now the next step is this, we're almost out of time here, the Germans, end of World War II guys, the Germans and Japanese were making weapons that were pretty darn crude. We don't have to drop down that low, but we can take advantage of some of their ideas. Had they maintained the metallurgy, combined with their ideas, they would have cut the cost in their arms production and increased their overall weapons availability dramatically. By going to that step right off the bat, they would have probably had a much better chance of surviving the action, so to speak, and perhaps at least tying, if not winning. Okay, we got the music God bless the Republic. Yes, there's a new world order. We shall prevail ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. But we are on the march, both today and tonight. Ooh, Ron, can you stick around for a few minutes? I can open up with you, but I gotta go after that. That's not a problem. Okay, we will be back in about six years. 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