August 6, 2010
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Mark Koernke discussed food preservation and storage strategies for militia preparedness, focusing on drying, canning, and packaging techniques for garden produce. He emphasized the importance of back-to-school sales for acquiring cheap supplies like pencils, notebooks, and crayons for long-term storage. The show covered MRE ration systems, homemade food dryer construction, and creative meal preparation methods. In the second hour, Koernke shifted to discussing guard duty training and friendly fire prevention, using historical examples and personal military experience to emphasize the critical importance of proper guard mount procedures, communication systems, and clear orders.
- food preservation
- drying
- canning
- preparedness
- mre
- rations
- guard duty
- friendly fire
- militia training
- supply logistics
- back-to-school sales
- vacuum sealing
- stonewall jackson
- arizona deployment
- quartermaster
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Live 365. We fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free. and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate. And your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold you trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame You've taken Satan's number you traded in your name You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As Iowoki vanished in the midst for whence he came. His words were true. We are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God given right we only watch in tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms He fought to keep what would be your answer if he called out from the grave? intelligence report I'm Mark Quirky all of our brothers and lines and occupied territories central west We are live 365 and go to Liberty Tree Radio. We also want AM and FM microstations, CB base stations, alternate technologies east and west of Mississippi, along with Southern and Central Alaska. We're on the Hallmark Network from the top of Maine, bottom of Florida, across to Texas, all the way up to Nebraska, and then a chunk of the, well, let's see, a third of Wyoming, the third, uh-huh, wink, wink, nah, nah, over there too, Iowa slash Iowa, and then back over to the Golden Spike Project where we are working across the Smokies. And we have a party on the beach on Saturday, a party on the beach on Saturday, and a meeting at the restaurant on Sunday, a meeting at the restaurant on Sunday, a meeting at the restaurant on Sunday. But today, BK1 is today. Today is 6th August 2010. It is Friday, the last hour of the day and the week for the Intelligence Report. And that makes this Quartermaster's Corner. Hoorah! Well, I'll tell you what, it's been a beautiful day. The sky's cleared up again. So, from beginning to end, everywhere in between was Stormfront, like you'll just wrote the whole song. But I'll tell you what, the beginning, blue skies. The end now cleared right back up. Cooling down a little bit more outside too by the way which is interesting. So cool as relative of course. Yeah medium summer weather as expected. And again Quartermaster Friday, well guys Quartermaster's job is to make sure that the troops in the field have what they need. Part of what we do is we are trying to get the logistics squared away for this deployment down in Arizona. And as we've talked about, perishables, again, with what we're sending down there, also maybe taking down and leaving down there, it's critical we build up a supply system. And it's very, very obvious when you're putting large groups of people together in one place, it doesn't take long to eat up a lot of those perishables. That can be canned goods, it can be dry goods, it can be a number of things. But we've got to get them there first. Actually, we've got to get the products where it can be transported when needed. And also, we have to get it from maybe even its raw form to final production, that we're ready for deployment so that we can actually dole it out in quantity and get it to where it needs to be. Well, so in this part of the year, we're starting to see the crops come in from all those gardens everybody planted. A lot of people have been eating out of them, but now the waves of stuff are coming in. Tomatoes are starting to show up. We've got squash, we've got obviously lettuce, but a lot of the other foods that can be put into the storage system are now on hand. And they're going to be moving into the final cycle for mass production here where you're going to see wave after wave after wave. We need to be prepared to deal with that. So I'll tell you what. If it's going to be wet packing, dry packing, or drying, you need to come up with a package now. You need to choose a direction that way you don't have to scramble around last minute. I know a lot of people can't necessarily do a lot of canning and such, but there are ways that you can put your food on the shelf and stored so that it can be converted into doleable or issueable ration when the time comes. And that's really one of the things I want to touch on tonight. Because VK, boy I tell you what, like the zucchini right now, it's cooking. We got zucchini really cranking out there with the plants that we've got. Another thing on the horizon is pumpkin. That's going to be coming out here in mass guys and in many forms. Squash is another one and all of these can be used for both short-term immediate food and for long-term storage. It's just a matter of creativity. We also don't have to invent the wheel with the rest of it. There's a plethora of literally like watching all the characters brought together in a Godzilla movie, a plethora of variables, constellations of solutions. So what have you got for us tonight, BK? Well, I wanted to touch some of the recurring themes in this season and one of those is that we are still in back to school season. This is not our gardening and food topic, but we won't spend an hour discussing it. But I'm going to remind people that we are still in back to school season and the stores are still running the back to school specials. They change every week. that will go on for another couple of weeks or so. And I would say that the lost leaders in these things are not to be missed. If you have any sort of commuting pattern, you go past any of the major office doors and so on, make a point of stopping in and hitting each of these guys. On any given week, you will routinely find somebody that's selling a dozen pencils for ten cents. One of the stores will be selling erasers for $0.50 instead of $2.50 is still a tremendous ripoff, but that's a lot better than $2. They will be offering spiral-wound notebooks at anywhere from $0.25 to $0.10. So on down the list. Get these things while you can. It is absolutely ridiculous to pay five times as much or ten times as much. I've gone sniffing around the stores just to see what the standard prices are on some of these things. And frankly, somebody else might have disagreed, but my attitude is the number two pencil is the number two pencil. It doesn't matter which brand name they stamp on the side. There's not a lot of difference from one to the next. Can you believe that a dozen number two pencils regular price goes for $2? That's absolutely nutty. I used to think of those things as being five cents a piece or two cents a piece or whatever the case may be. That was a long time ago. But if you can get them for $0.10 literally for a dozen and they'll limit you to three, fine. Do it. You can go off to work in the morning and you stop and you get three and you come back the other path, you stop and you get three. Just go ahead and take them up on these lost leaders. They've calculated that and don't feel sorry for the stores. They're doing fine. Their goal is to get people in there and purchase other things. Oh, okay, well I guess I need some rollerball pens while I'm here. I need some, you know, black magic markers or whatever the case is. The markups on all these things are sufficient that they're not suffering any. So go ahead and work these. Now the pattern is that the flyers come out in the newspapers on Saturday. That announces the sales that become effective Sunday morning and the stores are cleaned out of those offers Sunday afternoon or Monday morning. So get in there. Every once in a while one of them will still be available Monday afternoon or Tuesday if they got a whole pallet load of something. I picked up packages of 24 crayons for a nickel each. Limit three of course, but three is three packs. You can use those for the standard declared intended purpose. I kind of like them for snapping in little bits and throwing in the melting pot. They are a very convenient form of flux. Of course you can use the chewed and broken ones just as well as the brand new ones. So set aside the brand new ones for actual kid use and the chewed and broken ones for flux pot use. But there's another purpose. So, to work these sales, keep your eyes open. Check the Saturday newspapers. It is just absolutely nutty to pay $1.79 for a pad of paper when you can pay $0.10 for the same pad of paper if you do it during this season. Go ahead. Well, especially in with the sales that you're bringing up, the advantage of all the different items that we're running into guys this is stuff that's not really going to go bad on the shelf at least most of it if it's your biped pens remember pens eventually die but Supply and support technologies all the other stuff that we're going to be needing just to you know keep things going We're not going to waste them and we also got to be able to store them Caching of equipment and material means that if you can buy cheap you're gonna be able to put them down that was real for the first part of what we were covering here especially We're looking for inexpensive volume. I'll bring that up, bring a couple of things up here as we go through the hour or two on that note. Right, I've seen felt pens die in storage and others survive an astonishingly large number of years. At random it's just a matter of how well the cap fit on that particular pen. I have opened boxes of stuff that I packed up when I was returning from a work job. When I was employed I used to move someplace, work for 9, 12, 18 months, pack up and return. Few of those boxes never got opened. 15, 20 years later I open a box and say, oh look at all this stuff that never got unpacked and reused again. I'll find pens, markers, all kinds of stuff. Sometimes they're good, sometimes they aren't. It's purely a matter of how well they were sealed. If you're not sure, If you really want something to last for a decade, go ahead and drop it in a mason jar and use one of those screw cap plastic lids. You're not going to heat can a jar full of pens, but you just screw that in and make it airtight. A peanut butter jar would do just as well. There's no temperature requirement. Now, I am of the opinion that uh... the things that were stacking up and cashing are not going to uh... sit in storage for five or ten years before they get pulled out i think that our timelines are much much shorter than that but i've been wrong before and i would be very very happy to be wrong on this count because uh... my attitude is not bring it on but rather every day we get uh... for further preparation is a day i welcome The great mess of the sheeple will allow themselves to be bled whiter and whiter each day, but each day we wake up more and more and additional people get started making preps. So every day that we get is a welcome gift and I'm good with that. Do we have a beep? I think we have just a patient listener, it sounds like. uh... i'm going to remind people also uh... we have a mention this uh... to recently that when you are driving around make sure you have a pocket in the back of the car and stop at your break shop i'm not going to be labor that's one by the break shops the tire shop the general repair centers and so on and see if you can snark up their used wheel weight do not pay a lot of money for them Sometimes you can get them for free, sometimes they want a little bit. Absolute max you should pay is $20 for an entire bucket full. And that's 150 pounds worth. So you don't want to fill a bucket more than half. If you can throw a couple of buckets in the trunk or in the back of your truck or what have you so that you are equipped when opportunity strikes. That's a thing to do. We need that material and it requires no special care for storage. It's very important that it be dry when you actually start heating it up and melting it. That's a safety tip, so you want to keep it out of the rain if you can. But it's not even essential that you do that. That just puts a little bit more onus on the processing stage. We're not going to go into great lengths, but gather up those used wheel weights. We're going to need them. We need to continuously keep our eye out and keep gathering that stuff. Now, a side effect, one last touch on this, a side effect of the back to school frenzy is that Wally World will no longer in your area probably have canning jars anymore. I have never understood the rationale, but whatever it is, all the canning jars long before anybody's garden is producing. And they have them off the shelves and gone by the time the gardens are starting to come in. So when you look around the garden and say, oh, I think there's a little extra here. I'm not going to be able to consume all of this. Let's put some up, run down to Wally World for some canning jars. You're not going to find them there. You will find them available new at most grocery stores. They can't allocate an enormous amount of shelf space, but they allocate some. You may be able to find some at garage sales, but they've been disappearing from those. People are starting to use them. You're going to have to improvise. You may be able to get canning jars. You certainly can get lids. But there are other storage techniques you can use. One of the ones that you would want to use with your gardening is drying because there's very little technology involved in drying. There's actually some pragmatic benefits. If, for instance, you can tomatoes or can tomato paste or what have you, the efficiency of that process is only about 1.0. That is, about a pint of tomatoes goes into about a pint of char you might be able to increase that by a factor of two or some such by concentration but that's about it there's an awful lot of water in that jar on the other hand if you try your tomatoes you have discarded about what ninety five percent i guess of the mass of the tomato so when you end up with dried tomatoes you run into the blender and powder them and store that in the same jar you should be able to store I think about 20 to 1 in terms of volume. So there's an enormous gain in storage volume there. There's another gain that people don't talk about very much. When you do the pressure canning process, you are applying a lot of heat to the vegetables. And that breaks down a lot of the enzymes that we like. When you dry them, you do not apply that same heat, and you suffer much, much less loss of those enzymes. and those enzymes are every bit as important to you as vitamins and minerals and all this kind of good stuff. So there is much to be said for drying. A, because it is very low energy, B, because it retains those enzymes, and C, you can create almost as much drying capacity as you need at very low cost, whereas a pressure cooker is a moderately expensive excuse me, moderately expensive device and you've only got one or two so you have to use them serially whereas you can build a dryer out of wooden frames and window screen or conceivably fine chicken wire that sort of thing put one light bulb in the bottom just so that it's got a little bit of warmth and a little bit of air flow and you can have an awful lot of capacity for a small number of dollars. Go ahead. One of the things too about drying is, for instance, let's think about tomatoes, guys. It's come back into vogue, especially in the last eight to ten years here, to look at the Italian cuisine. And lo and behold, one of the things that comes out of the Italian cuisine big time are dried peppers, of course, which we also see with the Spanish and the Mexican cuisines. but also dried tomatoes which have become very popular in a lot of cooking. For instance, traditional Italian pizzas in the more, shall we say, Romanesque rather than the traditional Americanized version where you slap the dough down and then kind of let it, it doesn't really have an edge to it so much as it's like a big chunk of bread with lots of junk on the roof. and uh... good stuff but you know the idea is that it's done more in the uh... in a cruder form but a more traditional form of the nice thing is that uh... these things are easily reconstituted uh... remember you don't do any different except well i guess when you're picking if you think about what to say to use whatever large containers especially if they're reachable, like peanut butter containers are great for this project when you're drying things because you can reach in, grab a handful of this, grab a handful of that, real quick cooking, real fast and easy to use, you'd be amazed. The other advantage is again, doling it out for rations and packaging for rations is really quite easy too and you can actually come up with some pretty neat stuff that psychologically it's like man, I can recognize that, that's food. Dried onions, let's say you take three or four dried tomatoes, you lay those in a vacuum pack. You throw in some onions, you throw in parsley, you throw in some dried puffballs or dried mushroom. You could actually make a nice little soup mix or utility mix up that can go on top of rice or whatever else, and all you do is tear the package open, dump it on top of whatever is moist, the water and the heat, do the rest and bring it back up and online. And you actually have, you know, people always say, well, it looks like what I'm familiar with. Well, it's about as close to familiar as you're going to get when, yeah, it looks like a tomato to me, it looks like mushrooms. Tastes like them too. So these are cheap and easy solutions in reality that will help you to get to the other end, you know, be able to, you know, keep the troops functioning, yourself, of course, included. Again, we talked about pumpkin, for instance, and doing, like what we're doing, drying. One of the things we do is pumpkin jerky. We're down to the last of what we made last year. And of course, when I pull it out, everybody sees it, and everybody starts nibbling on it. Everybody that visits, that knows what it is, usually grabs the jar and starts nibbling on a few pieces. And the stuff is tasty, it's nourishing. It keeps you busy too because again it's kind of like you said, pumpkin jerky. It's not brittle, it's got more of a texture to it. Of course because it's just basically the pumpkin slivered. But it also has good flavor. You can sugar it, you can sugar it in molasses, which is one that I like to do. That gives it a really unique flavor and it's a sweet thing. It can also be cooked, too. You can rehydrate it and use it to cook to make a dessert with. There are all kinds of things that can be done. First, you have to have it in storage. Drying is a solution that's available. It can be done anywhere. You can use the electric dryers. You can use an electric light bulb drying system with a couple of screens laid sideways, homemade racks. This has been done over and over again. We've got a 14 tier one on the front porch. That's what it's there for, guys. That's what it does. And a simple light bulb in the base and convection and away you go. And so you can make a little Italian type of dried tomatoes. They look just like acceptable screen wrinkles on the bottom side of the cake. I don't think they have those. Well, some of these, especially items like tomatoes and so on, a very pragmatic approach is not to keep them in lumpy shape necessarily once they're dried. If you dry them, you can puree the things in your blender and end up with powder. That will store a volumetric efficiency. Just pour the powder into a jar, shake it down until it's full, and then screw the cap on. That will keep pretty much indefinitely. You get an awful lot of tomatoes into a quart jar. Again, the advantage is with off-the-shelf technology, all this stuff is available right now. You can chop it, slice it, dice it. If you don't have a blender, you know, beat it. Remember what's as dry. Typically you can make it as brittle as you want. If you don't have a blender, get on down to Goodwill or someplace. There's usually one laying around. The thing is that, again, you can bring it down to different levels or different combinations, like if we want to make a soup mix, like for a vegetable soup mix. You know, it's just this matter of being creative. Dicing the onions, I actually want to keep the onions a little bigger or they kind of fall through the cracks so to speak. But the thing is, remember that if you make onion chips or onion chunks, you can still break them down after they're dry, typically two. And even down to the point, like you said, of onion powder, which of course is commercially sold. How do you think they make the stuff that they're selling you in the grocery store? Yeah. It's pretty much the same thing. They're in a hurry, so they'll use vacuum processes and so on just because they want to get it in and out of the processing plant in a hurry. The other thing is that if you build a dryer, that's just basically a thin wooden frame with something stretched across the interior of the frame. You can use anything from coarse chicken wire all the way down to window screen depending on what you're drying. There's no reason that every layer has to be the same material. You can have a couple of layers that are finer for things that want to fall through and a couple of things that are coarser for more rapid air flow. You can mix and match and do whatever you want. Use the materials on hand as well. And the neat thing is that again, you'll get variations in composition, and that's part of this whole thing that we've been talking about with regard to versatility in food fatigue. How many ways can you change up recipe? Even with tomatoes or with anything that we're looking at here, if you look at, we can go from Italian to Spanish. Still using the exact same ingredients, basic ingredients, but we can change up the flavor accordingly so we get a different, again, mental response. This is critical overall. It can still be the same basic items. I mean, if you take rice, you can go Asian cuisine with that rice, or you can go Spanish cuisine, or you can still go with a lot of the more traditional European recipes that are out there. What do you think the Mexicans got all those rice recipes? They got them from Spain. Yep, exactly. And again, the product was introduced. It was, and of course has been developed over the years. Areas, regions have ideas. And that's where spices come in too. And again, the drying racks serve the same purpose. You got to be a little more careful because, for instance, when you do oreganos or if you do mints, Remember, it's going to be much more delicate once it's dried. So you want to make sure that you're careful about getting it out of the rack and then dropping it into whatever you're going to use for breaking it down the rest of the way if you're going to turn it into a, you know, not necessarily a powder so much as, you know, for instance, chip leaf. Because basically, like oregano flake is what you're using when you use oregano. But spices are priceless. Sage is so simple and easy. Sage is everywhere wild. Onions are everywhere wild. while garlic is available domestic garlic and come out right now i want to twenty five cents of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of And there's a certain amount of doubt about the advisability of eating food that's been irradiated. This is one of those processes that we techies use to think, oh, this is a perfect process. There's no impact. Chemical analysis breaks down the same and so on. But we're starting to come to the suspicion that maybe that's not the case. Some of the more subtle chemistry, the organics and the enzymes and so on, is apparently affected. So do want to avoid that. If you can plant your own, garlics and onions and so on are very easy to grow in almost any climate. And you can get a considerable yield from any little patch of ground that you plant those guys in. There's probably one caveat there. You read things from the LLRP people that are writing their memoirs and so on and they would say, well you want to eat the same stuff that the VC do because otherwise they can smell you. Well, you might want to consider the tactical implications of loading up on onion and garlic. It's very healthy for you, but if the enemy doesn't you might not want to be uplinked from them. Exactly. And again, it depends on the cuisine. So you want to match that in too, depending upon where you are. The interesting thing about that too is, of course, now we have to consider medicinal issues. You may actually be using the herbs for homeopathic purposes, and there you have to take that into consideration or part of the formula if you're going to be in the field. And there are medical problems. You have to deal with the medical problem itself may forestall you from going into the field to work in the first place. you know to be able to get out there and move with the troops so we need to think that we need to think that through also just even you know consuming them you don't even necessarily have to be exceeding garlic but remember that certain things when you've eaten them uh... well they kind of stick around for a little longer yeah and that may be one of the luxury that you can indulge in when you're in garrison and you have to give up in the field so well you know will compensate you get more than your share of uh... the available uh... freeze-dried coffee You can give up the onions and garlic when you're in the field. We'll give you a little more of the coffee. And I think more of that, we've got only so much on hand, so you get more than you're sure. On that note about coffee, by the way, remember guys, you can even dry coffee. The original instant coffee was nothing more what the Army did. The Army came up, or I should say private company was told to come up with a solution. They actually presented it to the military back in the Civil War. to take pans of coffee and just literally let them air dry to slabber. Yeah, but it was awful too. Oh, of course, but it was still, it was like instant coffee and you know the idea behind it was you heated up some hot water through your chunk of leathery coffee in there and lo and behold without having to perk it, it was ready to go. Again, that's the solution. One of the things to look at here is what's a coffee's purpose. Psychologically, it's designed to be a pick-me-up, but it is a physical pick-me-up too. It's the ingestion of the caffeine that you're really looking for. Think about ways to doctor it. The military already figured this out. For every pack of coffee you got, no matter what, even if you didn't use it normally, There was a packet of sugar and there's a packet of creamer in every condiments pack. If you don't like that stuff you can just throw it into the stew pot. You'll never know this and you'll use the calories. Exactly. Or, now a little trick there, again remember when doing sea rations slash MRE cuisine, you take the sugar and the creamer and you put that into a little cup, a little plastic cup you bring with you and take your little spoon. and add a little bit of water and you can actually whip cream. You can actually whip the creamer up to simulate for a topping. For instance, with different kinds of desserts like we were talking about. The creamer was designed so that you could at least change up the flavor. If you didn't think that instant coffee Mark II type wasn't quite up to stuff flavor-wise, Well, let's try the sugar. Let's try the creamer. I don't know, it's a little different. That kind of took the bite off that coffee one way or another. So at least it changed it up. A lot of guys did that just to make great. Yet another flavor change. I mean, if nothing else, guys, you're not just drinking the same thing, eating the same thing every day. Dibble in a little bit of this. Hey, look, I've got some creamer with it today. I'll see. I have two sugars tomorrow. you know that kind of thing so the ways to change stuff up anything to change the routine i read off the list here the other day from the court again from the quartermaster perspective guys just two different ration boxes for emory's right now the a unit and the b not one menu was the same not one there were no doubling up of any meals it was twelve meals and they were all a different menu for the main course. Now, whose army ever has a history? I mean, other than, and of course, then you go, he's really bad, he's got my ears. Personally, I thought it was pretty cool. We had 10 ration options to choose from. I thought that was eating pretty high. But today, you're looking at 24 plus. Now, that doesn't include the fact, and I'll point something out here, you got 24 primary main courses at this point in time, BK. 24 different, including vegetarian, give me a break. Plus, you know, you've got meat options, but meat options in different unique cuisines. You've got Mexican, Oriental, and you've got traditional ones that we've seen that are again European. So 24 different main courses, but here's the thing. They've changed those main courses up. So there are still in the inventory somewhere there are blocks of MREs underground buried for years that are in the last menu batch before that. And somewhere I guarantee stored in cold underground at 54, 52, 55 degrees, no humidity, temperature controlled. There are bunches of the original MREs in storage because they will store indefinitely. There is no expiration block for MREs, contrary to what the system tried to push. excuse me the mre people know this the guys who developed them discovered this through testing and pretty well you know now we've got what thirty years worth of mre's in place because this is the year two thousand and ten the first batches of mre's started show up about nineteen eighty nineteen seventy nine nineteen eighty in experimental form though the that along with the tray menus they came up with it came up with an a ration tray pack remember those guys What's interesting is that the original menus were totally different from the second wave with regard to freeze dried items and such. And then you've got the latest menus. Now you actually have close to 42 to 45 different menus that may drop in your lap. who in the hell would say you're suffering under those conditions for the proper living spare lives well they're fake spare ribs they're actually mick ribs you know that kind of thing but on the other hand uh... take a look at the other situation say with the american revolution where they were lucky if they were eating at all well remember how did the uh... how did the nva operate uh... you know you have a uh... ralph today right paul tomorrow on a guest Yeah, nice ball. Yeah, yum, yum, yum, yum. Of course those weren't the biggest, beefiest characters in the world and so on, but they managed to carry an AK and cause us a lot of problems. Yep, exactly. So again, we're looking at situations where we can actually present almost as good a cuisine, I would say, as far as variety goes, maybe more so because we can change it up and engineer the discretion. unlike the military, they're not going to throw a ration pack at you and say, if you don't like it, trade with somebody else. You're going to be engineering your food yourself. So you need to start looking at this seriously now. There are certain things you may want to add, certain things you may want to emphasize. But kind of model it after what you see with the military ration pack. There's a reason for that. They came up with a lot of research and watching how millions of people eat. especially in uniform and looking at meal cycles and looking at calorie content and all the other things. Flavor configurations. Now personally as far as I'm concerned as long as it's not green and growing and talking back to you, well chances are it's going to get eaten. Okay, because you're going to find out real quick whatever you're carrying no matter what it is, it better be consumed because it's all you got. The important thing is though at this phase is select an engineer now. and experiment now. This is the other thing that we haven't gotten into. Seal of meal systems, I've mentioned these many times. You can even go to, like you said, the Salvation Army, the Goodwill, Purple Heart, there's a whole bunch of them all across the country, guys. And people that have a little well to do, or a little better off, or maybe Mom passed away, all of her goodies went to the thrift shop. They donated to Goodwill, they went to Salvation Army. There's a vast number of people that have the attitude that if you somehow come into an item like that and you've got two of them, you've got to get rid of one. They've been looking at these magazines that say, oh, it's beautiful and so on, and everything's all tidy and there's these spacious empty cabinets and countertops and so on. You couldn't have any clutter. Well, that's a fantasy created by the photographers to make a pretty picture. That's not pragmatic reality. But, if they're goofy enough to hand off a perfectly working item to the resale shops, you snap them off. They'll do that with blenders, they'll do that with every once in a while you get lucky and you get a canner. That's fairly rare. Usually only the small ones appear. But you can get manufactured food dryers. Every possible appliance that's ever been produced will show up sooner or later in the Goodwill the Salvation Army, the Caltech Charities, whatever those resale shops are. and work reasonably well most of the time. They are lightweight products. They are not an industrial vacuum. They are not an industrial heat sealer. Any of those things may fail. So don't be shy about having a spare. My attitude on those things is if you can scrape up the pennies at all, I like to go a little bit more industrial in the equipment. So from my point of view, well, I have spools of poly tubing and an industrial heat sailor and a I would cobble together all that stuff spread out over a table and use my vacuum pump and my heat sealer and so on. I would not use a household unit. But the household units are small and they're compact and they're easy to use. It could be that the Mrs. is much more willing to use that than throw the switch on a vacuum pump and use a basketball needle and flip it into the bag or the tube or what have you and so on and so forth. So, is whatever is available and whatever your personnel are willing to use. The idea is to get the job done, not necessarily to do it in a particular fashion. Well, interesting too here is, again, remember guys, something you said earlier too is backups to backups is a good idea to start watching for seconds and for others. A lot of times if you're lucky, that's why I said, you know, if a grandma got rid of hers or they got rid of grandma's because they got, you know, the inherited one. Typically, the person who's in that position, older people, have a tendency to appreciate value and wealth, and so they took care of it. And that's why I always watch for things like that. Well, that's an antique. That's from 1982 when it's in the box. Yeah, that's an antique. Yeah, it was made in 1982. It probably got thicker plastic than the 1980s now, too. And maybe even American-made. Maybe. You never know. Or at the very least, Japanese-made. You never thought you'd say that, would you? no you know when people used to use the term uh... the the word japanese a verb the ragged tones of contempt all of a chopped up a cheap copy well you know about by current standards those cheap copies look pretty good right there the step up of the paper it's like well it he he he he doesn't think china it's got another word i can't read it j a p a n Yeah, exactly. So there again, you might find there's hardly anything that can't be made a little bit cheaper and a little bit worse. We're testing the boundaries on that. Interestingly enough, if you do run into a second one again, like you said, test it on less. If it's brand new in the wrapper, you might want to just leave it as a backup the way it is. But with the sealant mills, the advantage of all the sealant mills system is that you can actually see the product inside. Now, you don't have to look at this for long, long-term storage. We talked about recon packaging. Initially we're going to be using MREs, we're going to be using all the other wonderful space-age technology that we got hold of as far as stuff that's already pre-packed. But that's only going to last so long because there's a key word attached to them, they're perishable. But they're also consumables. We're going to be using them. At some point, you're going to have bought it to use it. So it's going to happen. Now, when that takes place, we're going to have to look for a second family to replace that, a next generation. We're not stepping back too far. And the seal-a-mill packages do that. So here we are. We've got our dried packed foods, our dried tomatoes, the mushrooms, the dried onions. We've got our reconstituted rice that we did at home, where we made minute rice out of regular rice so we can cook it faster. And what basically you can put together is a lerp, an LRRP. Maybe not as big. In fact, one nice thing too about this is you can set your packaging up so you're issuing out just exactly what you want to each person. You can also set up your packaging so it will accommodate, in other words, a length of the package. So it will accommodate the space available in another packaging system. Example, we have number 10 canners. We can hand crank or electronically crank number 10 cans and do dry packing, something I mentioned earlier. I mentioned wet packing, dry packing, and of course drying. Well, with dry packing, I can take my dried goods, no matter what they are, even though school supplies. Put everything I can into a number 10 can, seal it, and it's there until I open the lid. Now if I have the seal-a-meal system and I do ration packs where I do a specific kit, for instance, I can do cells. I can do a block of rice, a block of those beautiful dried vegetables that BK has put together, and I can even put a dessert pack in there made up of pumpkin jerky. Now three cells, kind of like the plastic packaging the way you see, for instance, freezer pops. See how the freezer pop comes out of the package when you have a whole bundle of them? That's basically how this would be, but in say three cells or four cells or whatever. Now, everything is just a single or like a one person serving with a little of lead. Not kitty or a business serving. We're talking, you know, put a little girth in there because people are going to be hungry and you're working. You're going to be working out. You're using calories. You're burning up everything you need. You're going to replace it. The cool thing is, snip snip with a pair of scissors or your knife and the whole packaging on the end comes open. You can slit individual cells and leave the other cell intact. And all of these can go, like say however many, depending on how big your package is, you make the length of your sealer meal pouch that you create only as long as the height of a number 10 can. Well, that's one of the advantages also if you are using poly tubing because you pull off however much off the spool you want, whether it's two inches or whether it's three feet. And you seal either end and you have made a variable size pouch. Now bear in mind, let's comment on the thickness of these things. Standard bags that you find in the grocery store are generally going to be two or three mil thickness. You can purchase poly tubing anywhere from 1.5 mil which is very, very thin stuff. It's basically just a matter of keeping something clean while it's handled all the way up to 6 mil which is one of the mil specs for actually packaging equipment parts, this sort of stuff. I would say go on the heavier end. If you ever wanted to do the poly tubing, route and bear in mind that this comes on a big spool typically a foot diameter spool anywhere from two inches to twelve inches across your choice it's just a matter of how much you want to spend on the spool and then you use a quasi-industrial sealer for the thicker layers the household countertop sealers are not going to do a proper job on six milli just don't generate a hot enough pulse long enough That's one of the benefits of the quasi-industrial tabletop units. But if you go with the poly, I would recommend going with 4 or 6 mil as your first purchase because you can use somewhat heavier plastic than is needed in some circumstances, but you always want to have the extra thickness available for those things that do need it. Go ahead. Again, if you're going to be doing this, you want to make sure that you store up on the perisables that support the system. Now you can make the containers using VisiQueen or other plastics, ideally VisiQueen being even thicker. When you do that, you actually use the seal and mule end piece and you can fabricate the material that you need. You fold over the head and fold this sheet and you can seal on three sides. So the advantage here guys is that again, you've got ongoing solutions and you end up with a pretty durable product. Remember, the one thing about MREs is there was a whole study program to figure out how to make it bounce-proof. One of the criteria of BK was that you had to be able to take an unparecheuted MRE case or pallet, throw it out the back of a plane and at standard low altitude it had to be able to be dropped and bounced. and they actually gave a percentage of it was like it had to have an eighty six percent uh... survivability rating others eighty six packages out of one hundred or supposed to make it in reality and client to the opinion that the case can burst and the content may individually still be exactly that's what it was in the words it was designed and like a shotgun pellet bag what happens is the uh... boxing to the container itself takes up a certain amount of energy and and ruptures And then the MRE pouches themselves actually had a whole bunch of different tests they had to survive. One was what's called a 10,000 point flex. 10,000 repeated flexes of the container. Now everybody goes, why would you not be that in the commercial products? But certainly it's a consideration to think about. And the reason they did that is because everybody goes, why would they do that? So have you ever thought about what your stuff does in your backpack? And he's like, what? It's like, well, think about it. You're carrying an Alice pack, and you have to stuff everything in the Alice pack, and your back is moving, and every time that you move, everything on your body is moving with you to some degree. A lot of people, one of the reasons they especially did the 10,000 flex test, is because people grab the m-r-e pouch they take and pull it out of it a lot of times it would take it like i do take it out of the cardboard even and each part of this is a protection layer by the way but you take them out of the cardboard to save a little bit away and you show them in your pants pocket you throw food all over so you distribute the weight well the idea was that without any other protection if you just had the pouch which is what a lot of guys do they don't eat all the meals they stuff stuff in their pockets well how many pieces do you make in a mile How many steps do you take in a day? If you're infantry and you're going cross country and you do 20 miles a day or more, which typically you do, then you figure out how many steps did you take in a mile? Well, there's 1760 yards in a mile. If your pace is only one yard, call that two steps or what have you, you're moving slowly. That could be 3400 in a single mile. 3.4 thousand in 10 miles. So you see 10,000 flexes isn't that much is it? Now the interesting thing is the packages survived far better than anticipated and in fact everything performed above standard. So that was one aspect. The other part, one thing about MREs, I'm complimenting, I don't, I wasn't excited about MREs when they came out, only that they, wow, you mean they finally put freeze dried, but where the troops can get it? Because the regular troops never saw lerps. Long range reconnaissance patrol rations mostly went to special warfare troops. and the regular grunt never could take advantage of freeze dried food. Then they came out with the MREs because we just, oh look we're going to provide lighter weight food rations and part of the way we'll save weight is with freeze dried. But they did it at the end of the war. And so all these people who were now in training sites or they were stuck in locations where they weren't doing jack or squat but they were going to be issued rations were going, oh I got freeze dried in my rations, oh. And so they listened to the Boofs and it was like they should have completely ignored that. It was based on the idea, the MRE was based on taking all the research and development testing that had happened in 10 years of bloody war only to have a bunch of limp-risted goofs give a whole bunch of other feedback that was irrelevant to the purpose for the menu and for the packaging. Well, remember that when you operate a large-scale army, you're sucking people up from across the entire civilian army and civilian sector from every region of the country and a bunch outside the country. You're getting everybody who's escaped in the Heinlein situation, escaping the southern exposure portion of the mule. New York City kids have barely ever seen an insect in their lives and so on and so forth. An awful lot of those are going to have a lot of getting used to to even be out in the woods. One of the things that Boy Scout does for you is you learn just exactly what a wonderful spice hunger is. And you discovered just how horrible campfire ashes taste in your food. And so on, it does adjust your expectations. Well, interestingly enough, and this is what's sad, is that the idea was sound, it's still sound. I mean, the MREs are, the only thing is, as I've said, is we still have people complaining. 24 plus menus to choose from, and somebody's going, uh, MREs, and it's like, yeah, me, I'll take, uh, I'll tell you what, I'll take those. In fact, like I said, I still carry all the other stuff that we're talking about, and then I can change the food up even more. And I can get that creative in Boy Scouts, but we learned to put a can of something or other in your pack because sooner or later some doopess is going to do something awful to the food that you have allocated. Having a can of Spam or a couple of cans of tuna fish or sardines or something in your pack as a backup for when somebody messes up your cooler packed meal is always a desirable thing. We learn to love the Spam or the sardine cans, etc. It's nothing quite like a hungry teenager that suddenly finds a whole fist full of dirt in the frying pan because some doofus couldn't pay attention to where his feet were. As I said, it does adjust your expectations and you learn to appreciate what you do have. The other part about that is remember with everybody carrying something especially, if all else fails, soup guys. I keep mentioning that for a reason because let's say that everybody carries something. if all you have is a certain amount of back up food, you're starting to go thin. Remember that you want to dry and do soups or stews if at all possible. The reason, certainly water helps to stretch the food, but also stews and soups ensure that you don't lose any nutrients. We have Dutch coming up right behind us by the way guys. You're welcome. And remember guys, Quartermaster makes the Army move. The militia, we've got a lot of work ahead of us. We're going to be testing a lot of this out down on the border in real life scenario. So if it's going to work, if it's going to happen, it's going to be us making it happen. So we need your assistance. We need to pitch in. And again, if you're going down there, you've already warned you in advance what's needed. Water, food, make sure you've got shelter, make sure that all the rest of your gear is up to snuff. Also, sending supply and support down there is critical to the troops that will be deployed. If you're sending a unit down, send the food materials down with them, they're going to need to continue to function. 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I don't know if it's because we do a lot of work on the internet using eBay and PayPal and all that, but it's... This seems weird, so we're stuck here for a while until the bank figures out that that wasn't a legitimate Hopefully they'll figure it out. We won't end up losing it. I'm getting tired of it It's about every two months this happens beginning to think we're just targeted by somebody and they're just doing it to be funny it just causes a lot of our anguish and everything and It's just weird. It's just very strange that it just keeps happening over and over and over again It's almost like we have to hide our account I don't know if we should go to Walmart and get one of those Walmart cards or something just do everything with gift cards. But anyway, we're here. We're really glad that it's Liberty True. Is Ed in there, Luke? You're looking at the chat room. I'm not. Okay, good. We are up. We welcome our Liberty True radio fans. We welcome people listening on Facebook, MySpace, and all the other places that the embedded player has been placed. I Googled it again last night and found that it was pretty much everywhere. Again, hundreds of people have taken our player and embedded it, so that's great. We enjoy that. Hopefully, I like to think that it's individuals that are rebroadcasting it over FM or CB, like CB Channel 2 up there in New York, or 2 meter stuff, or 80 meter band, whatever, shortwave, whatever you want to do, you have the permission to do it. Just try and do the whole show in context. Don't edit me or speed it up or slow it down so I sound weird. Please don't chop it up so I sound like Elvin and the Chipmunks debating communist thought or something. I wouldn't like that at all. Before the break we were talking about it's crucial in whether you're a brand new militia, just starting out, you're a lone wolf looking for a militia, or you're a well established militia. Training is the foundation of everything. And I was relaying about an incident that was unconfirmed, but related to me about where somebody almost shot one of the, you know, their militia commander because they weren't paying attention on guard duty. There are so many things you can do to circumvent friendly fire situations and that's what I'm going to talk about. Historically there have been some pretty terrible cases of friendly fire. A lot of the stuff in Vietnam, friendly fire is probably where the term really got taken into the public's vernacular. Today there was a movie on about friendly fire with Carol Burnett and it's just funny that, oh I left my wedding ring in the bathroom. Thank you honey. I was starting to yeah, I was doing some dishes. But you don't have to go in American history. I brought it up just before the break Stonewall Jackson Killed by his own men, you know what a tragedy that was how things might have been different had Stonewall survived There's no reason in learning from everybody else's mistakes and experiences that this should still be an issue When you're setting up a guard mount, I'm just gonna give you some very basic basic things Your guards have to be trained They have to be trained in all the basic infantryman skills Plus you don't just take a guy who who follows orders on a platoon level and say okay. He's a guard now guarding is a very specified and various well very specific skill set Now granted I was an MP so I take it to heart and I'm not degrading the roles of infantry guys or airborne infantry or Aerosol or any of those things but just as those things require certain skill sets So does guarding and there's so many different types of guards, but for today's show I'm just going to focus on entry guards and traffic control point guards Which is what the incident that was related to me is talking about When you choose people to be on guard duty you probably don't have you know everybody gets rotated through which is usually the custom There are no special orders usually given other than, hey nobody's supposed to get in here. I remember one time I was picked to guard the brand new post exchange on Fort A.P. Hill before it opened and Fort A.P. Hill's this little teeny tiny post that was TD wide there from temporary duty from Fort George G. Meade up in Maryland. And I was told by the post commander who was a colonel, Colonel Quinn, and he said no one gets into this P.X. until I Tell you to let them in and I cut the ribbon and he was a colonel. Well this two-star Air Force general Comes up and he tries to get in and I and my partner. Here's another rule You never just leave one guard when you can have two we had two guards the front door this Air Force colonel I saluted him said good morning, sir, and he wanted to get in I said sir It is my general or is my specific orders that no one has to enter the PX until the post commander Announces that it is open and he's like well Yeah, I got to get in and I said no you may not gain entrance My specific orders are and I repeated him to again and he goes well Do you have some way to get someone over here? And I said yes, I had a radio which is key you have to give them any guard you give Each guard must have their own communications device especially if they split up You don't send them out there with one radio and say well one's enough You send them out there with radios, backup radios, extra batteries, whatever you have supplies of, and that's why it's better to plan ahead. Well, finally I got on the radio called dispatch, had the post commander come over, one alpha. He showed up, shook hands with this general, the general started to dress him down, and he came over to me and says, is that true? Corporal so and so, is it true that you denied access to this two-star general? I said, Sir, yes sir, you told me no one gets in but you and that was my specific orders and I followed him He turned around said good and he dressed down the general for harassment And it turns out the general was an Air Force general who was in charge of a fees which is the people that are in charge of the he was like a he was like the executive director of Walmart for military bases. Let's put it that way for those of you that don't understand it. I didn't know that The Air Force has handled the PX. It's never entered my mind, nothing I ever cared about. But I was basically telling the president of the company he couldn't come in because the store manager told me no. But those were my orders. You know, barring a fire in the building and letting firemen in... I wasn't going to violate my specific orders and you have to have general orders. Some of the general orders that they gave us like, you know, I will not abandon my post until properly relieved. I'll report all special circumstances to the commander of the relief. Now, I can give you all those but you're not going to remember them. But whatever your militia has, you need to come up with general orders for guarding.