Live 365. Although you have no voice in saying how the money is spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm. And keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God-given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist from whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God-given right, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free home of the free? And good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. This is the afternoon intelligence report. I am Mark Cornke. One day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories, south, southwest, east, and northeast. Ladies and gentlemen, you're listening to us on libertytreeradio.4mg.com, pbn.4mg.com, and we are live 365. Then go to Liberty Tree Radio. We're also on AM and FM micro stations, CB base stations, and ultra net technologies both east and west of the Mississippi along with southern and central Alaska. We're on the hallmark of the network on the eastern seaboard, top of Maine, the bottom of Florida, the bottom of Florida across the ark and the Gulf of Mexico headed towards, oh that's right all the way over to Texas, then all the way up to Nebraska and the third of Wyoming and Iowa slash Iowa. Then back over the river, that's right, the big muddy, the Mississippi, all the way over there too, the Goldesberg Project on the Smoky Mountains over there on the Big Bridge line. And that is a busy, busy project once I think of the restaurant crews. Remember, there is a party on the beach this Saturday, party on the beach this Saturday, party on the beach this Saturday, and a meeting at the restaurant on Sunday, meeting at the restaurant on Sunday, a meeting at the restaurant on Sunday. So let's see, we can get down there. We've got a lot of work to do. I don't have all the particulars for Sunday's, Sunday evening's restaurant meeting, but we will hopefully have the spike for that by tomorrow. We'll see what happens. Anyway, it is a beautiful Monday, Monday. That's right, it's Monday at Liberty Tree Race. What are you? Dogs, horses, you name it. Woof, woof, chasing the bunny. No, it's not like that at all. But it has been pretty darn busy, guys. With the world the way it is, as we all know, we've got a lot of work to do. Down on the border, we have the additional support dropping that way or moving in that direction right now even as we speak with a couple of other organizations that hopefully will be linking up both with the Arizona militia. We're doing some other independent work. We want to do some camera work down there across the whole of the border. They're going to start from California. Do a time lapse thing, guys. They are going to drive all the way from the coast to California, all the way to the Gulf of Mexico, and cover the entire border of the United States. Anyway, that's in motion and the guys are in the gala that are supposed to be down there. I guess there are a couple different ways they can do it. One camera could go a whole distance and one crew, but I think they're smart. They're going to actually drop off different crews and have each group do their respective stretch. And that way nobody's having to go the whole nine yards per se. Then they can come back together. Apparently they're at Albuquerque, or it'll be over in Phoenix. We'll see what happens. And then they're going to make this part of the storyline. We're talking about the violations and the screen door border that we have to the south. So it will be pretty interesting to see how it works out. We'll find out more about that. Also, see arizonamelisha.com, arizonamelisha.com, arizonamelisha.com. Check out the latest postings if you want information on what you can donate. It's all there if you want information on what's going on with the rest of the deployment. It's there. There's some little photo essay to give you an idea how rugged the terrain is. Not a surprise. It's the kind of stuff we expected, especially down in that neck of the woods, or I should say, slash desert slash, let's see, Arroyo. There you go. Anyway, depends on where you are, but there's some real valleys and there's some real mountain ridges there. So it's going to be some exercise guides. Just be prepared for that. Another thing I wanted to touch on today, we've got plenty of time. Here we're at the top of the hour. I am going to do this a second time tomorrow to a degree, but probably the same angle, but with a few things added perhaps by the time we're done. Let's talk about the moon. No, this is not coast to coast and no tell you no for talking about your falls I can't talk about them because they'll kill me So I'm gonna tell you about them for three hours and coast to coast and then they're killing me Next month hi, I'm back guess they didn't kill me and everything's fine But I can't tell you the rest of the story But I guess I will because if I do then they might kill me Because UFOs are something that you're really worried about especially all of us that are doing UFO research and they'll kill us By the way, the Mars, look at the Mars, it's way far away. It's like the oil rig at the bottom of the ocean. You can talk about either one on coast to coast. They have 120, 150, 200 affiliates, 1,000 affiliates. But if you start talking about serious stuff on coast to coast, yeah, you'll be told that that can't happen. See, so that's one of the things I want to point out. Now the reason I bring this up is because, and I'm fascinated, they're shifting, they have to. The original thing was there's stuff on the moon, really? That's cool. Well, as far as what's on the moon. And part of this is the fact that they've been going through and looking at all the photographs, which by the way have been around for, well, since the former landings, as far as the one that we get to see. And I'm probably not just Apollo 11. Apollo 11 is the one that everybody challenges. at least the debates that we did in 1969. Well, remember they promised they'd be to the moon by the end of the decade. That's why they had to hit the clock. The clock was running and they wanted to show up the Russians for official propaganda purposes. Whatever. Probably the fact that there's a lot of two-ball canes slash ring knocking, you know, Masonic stuff in there should tell you that, yeah, there's a problem. But let's say that we're going to eliminate most of the debate. Here's the biggest problem I have with the whole argument, plus or minus. It comes back to something I talked about on the air before. You hear this, you hear that, you hear that, you hear that. One more time. There's five. One, two, three, four, five. Now there's not state of the art computers. All five of these are under the counter. stand-up towers with a couple of different hard drives, well a hard drive at least one, a couple of CD drives and an old disk drive. We could always make sure we had a disk drive in because you never know what you can run into in the way of technology that you might need to use. But anyway, point is any one of these computers has more computing power than all of the world and what it took to get them manned to the moon. If you were to look at the budget cost for getting a man to the moon, the ethereal end, the something you can grab, you can grasp it, but you can't grab it. You can grasp it with your mind, but you can't grab it. It's paid for and it costs money because it takes a lot of bodies to get something to work, to get something to do something because there's human effort involved. Usually it's gray matter if it's really cost money because it's brain power. So here we are, we now have five equivalents to mission control underneath our feet right here. Five. Oh, they just love a trinitron screen like the one that I just kind of broke down yesterday for parts because it was finally dying. It was a Sony trinitron, original with lots of extra umbilicus, hookups for all kinds of it. It can be used for security or it can be used for a television station, whatever. But the point is that that's Nothing by comparison to the compact monitor I have here. Oh, that's not state of the art. This is one that goes with the Presario or the Doi-Dosaur or this Dell that's a flat screen that's certainly not state of the art. But all of this exceeds the technology or at least matches the technology of the day that you saw at Michigan Control. So what would the cost be to go to the moon right now? I mean real cost. I mean real, real, real. I'm not talking all the other BS. Certainly, you're supposed to maintain a standard when you do this. That was one of the big things, is that the standards that were maintained to ensure the lives of the people, because we wanted quality control. We didn't go for throw the dice back then. Not enough for the most part. It doesn't mean access didn't happen when you have all these integrated parts systems that are in place that are high-tech. But here's the thing. We don't have to put a man on the moon. Why? Right now, why are we not on the moon with... There's going to be a launch from Florida to Mayor Eucalyptus or Mayor Blitzenstein up there. The Delta Rocket launches a pod which carries a canister lander the size of whatever it is that we normally launch with the Delta Rocket. It's not coming back. It doesn't have to. It can carry all kinds of experiments. Back in the day, most of the physical stuff, for example, if you ever looked at a physical system, and I'm going to get something here real quick, and I'm going to qualify this, what was the size of the dashboard? It's control panels, but we'll call it the dashboard of the Apollo command module. Have you ever looked at it? I have. A lot of you have if you've played around with any kind of video game technology. Back in the day guys, people built models, people studied photographs, everybody wanted to look at the surveys of the moon mission and what it took. In a lot of cases they had the LEM, the landing excursion module, and the command module floating around the country. You could go get inside and go, wow! Ooh, wow! Ooh, and look at it, right? But everything under the dash, with the exception of the actual physical controls, would now fit into a space the size of one chip on the whole of that old dinosaur computer sitting underneath the table here. One chip. Which means all the rest of that dash is now available for whatever else you think you want to do. We should have a blasted starship sitting there by now. But let's just say, well Mark's not wanting to do that. Mark just wants to take and, you know, by the way, we wouldn't have one processor under there doing everything. We'd have a stack of processors because we'd have backups and we'd have another system that was a backup and we'd have a different system that was a backup. But it'd all still be no bigger than the size of a pack of cigarettes as far as the actual command group goes. Because what are you doing with this thing? It gets up off the ground. It's already going to be using the slingshot effect to get it plus booster to get it to the moon. It's going to be captured by the orbit of the moon. It's going to circle a few times and we're going to go place space pod here. Look at that. There you go. Now it's got a soft land. But here's the thing. Do I have to even reinvent this? Do I even have to make new? Think about this. Mechanically, if I don't have to put a human, if I'm not worried about a monkey, I'm not worried about a a parrot, don't want to put a human in a can, but I wanted to send something to Moon. How cheap could I do it today? The biggest expense of that rocket, and the reason I mentioned Delta rockets, is because Deltas have been around so long that they're like cakewalk guys. It's like you're supposed to be able to throw the thing on the top, light the candle, boom, she goes and she gets there. The probability of failure is very, very low. So, the launch platform, and now notice I didn't even mention the space shuttle. Why? Because it's totally irrelevant to what we're talking about. It has nothing to do with the mission platform and purpose originally intended for the space shuttle. The space shuttle was a retail delivery system designed so that when you use your big heavy lifters to get your chunks of stuff up there, you take up your mechanics, your astronauts, and your fine-tuned equipment. It's kind of like what you see the garbage truck do now when it goes to the space station. What do you got? There you go. I'm back to garbage. Okay. And laptop computers that are fried. Okay. What do you got for us? A pile of laptop computers. Latest model. Oh, okay. We even got a, are they already? Oh man, we got to relearn all this stuff. Oh man. Yeah, don't worry. They're compatible. Blah blah blah. At least kind of. You guys will be down for a week or two trying to figure this stuff out. Ha ha ha. Here's what the garbage truck does nowadays. So there's an example of retail delivery. Manpower, garbage, food up, garbage down, and laptops. New laptops up, and toasters and ride chips, which are part of the, you know, applied systems, are part of the garbage down, by the way. That's what they don't mention. It's not just organic trash, there's other stuff. You know, it tires out that the problem of microcircuitry, it's not as robust, it's not as durable in some cases, and that's why you have to replace it. So, here we have a Delta rocket, we have a tank, basically a Coca Cola can, with LEM lander rig underneath it. How much can I put into something that's the size of a galaxy satellite, because that's what the Delta launches, or things like that, like big old house size satellites. So if I just want to send something up there, it's going to do what? What's it going to do? Or it can monitor seismic activity. It could monitor solar activity, much more stable up there, no atmosphere to interfere with stuff. Wouldn't it be nice to have a solar sensor on the moon that could help to monitor solar activity so we could be more effectively warned about what's happening on the moon? Or not just on the moon but in the system. Wouldn't a backup stable doesn't require a rocket? delivery system. Would that make more sense, guys? In other words, if I took a big old tube the size of a Coke can, like the dimension of a Coke can, because it doesn't have to be aerodynamic, and I make it tubular to the maximum size of the internal delivery package of a Delta Rocket canister, because it breaks away and launches the stuff out, away it goes. Well, you know, little nose-counting because that does need to be aerodynamic. When at least your Earth is going to punch you with some air so the rocket has got to fight its way up, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, you know the history of that. So anyway, we've got our Coca-Cola can. It's got LEM landing gear on the bottom. Oh, it's got a big hole in the middle of it. So we're going to do things. We're going to watch for are special anomalies. But, what else can we do? Well, beyond a shadow of a doubt, we can stomp everybody's guts out with a little reminder that we're there. Well, if we believe, the big debate is, did we ever get to the moon or did we go to the moon? Now, my question would be, why aren't we going back to the moon? Why not? It'd be fun. And today, it's bargain basement. Today it's not the United States or China that should be going to the Moon. That's actually ludicrous. There's no reason. For the price of less than one nuclear submarine, we could have a dozen or a hundred missions to the Moon. For less than the price of one nuclear submarine, we could have, and every module that goes up is part of a building colony. Everything goes up is reusable. Every nut, every bolt, everything is designed so that it's geoharmonic. In other words, you can disassemble one part and attach it to another part and make things, widgets, things, have fun with it. But in the meantime, here's what the first mission does. On the roof there's a big blossoming, actually it looks like a spy movie, and he goes, you've got yourself this big reflector. Not parable, but rather just a flat fan projector. Highly glossed, whatever material you want to use I don't care, but it's got to be highly glossed. Why? Because in the middle of that bonnet that's on top of my lander is going to be a strobe light. And at every two hours for 30 seconds to a minute, my strobe blood is going to go, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing Not only did we get something there, but why would we not market so that you could know that it was there? Since solar power is free, there's no reason not to put a strobe on it so everybody can see where it is and then go. Every two hours it goes, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, we made it to the moon, ha, ha, we made it to the moon, ha, ha, we made it to the moon, ha, ha. How long could a, if I got something the size of a galaxy satellite, a small house actually guys is how big a galaxy satellite is, and I've got it now landed on the moon, how many goodies could I put there? But a light and a marker is a great way to show national pride and rub things in. Now let's go back to the original moon mission. Why is it? I know this for a fact because I know that Harm Bunning, who was the number five man in NASA, is one of my mentors, one of the teachers I had years ago. Professor Harm Bunning, one of the things that was brought up in a conversation and he would not comment on. I watched this from the side. Somebody said, I came out of the guy's name. A couple of young engineers said, You know what, people are commenting about why do we need to be there? Let's send everybody a message. Why don't we take a big chunk of mylar about a half click by a half click. It will be very cheap. It will only weigh the price of somebody's underpants or something. Not even that. But ultra thin, super fine. And they spread it out. The astronauts spread it out and put a strobe right in the middle. Run off solar power off one of the experiment packages. It blinks until the package dies. They turned to him and said, no, no conversation, don't bring it back up. No. So my argument is this, since we have the ability to get there, and more assuredly than at any other time in history, if we had not de-evolved into Stone Age rocket scientists, we're basically running off a pickup truck publicly that's 40 years old. It is actually 40 year old technology because remember the space shuttle was already on the blocks when we were going to the moon as part of the next logical generation of aircraft that were going to be flying in space. We call them spacecraft, but they are aircraft. They are eventually becoming spacecraft because they leave the atmosphere. That is what the shuttle does. We are still driving the 30 year old pickup truck. When somewhere in between we should have gotten ourselves a new GMC or a new Ford or a new Chrysler at least. You see how that works? But here's the other part about that. We don't need that fancy. There's way too much technology. It's grossly over-engineered for a simple mission to the other orb that's so close that you can look up at it every night and see specific features with a naked eye. So why would you not mark it? Why would you not go? And again, like I said, for the lovers of the moon, because of eye pollution, it's a blinky spot on the moon. Oh, we've got a new tomato, by the way. Oh, out of the garden, big one. Big is my fist. Anyway, the interesting thing is that instead we can't do that and you don't need to see where we are. We really don't need to see where we are. We paid millions or billions of dollars for today's money, but we paid millions and hundreds of millions and then a billion or two back when it counted for something to get those guys there. Why would we not want to be able to see a blinky blinky light? And by the way, we'll do it so it can be tactful. Here's a fun one. We could also have a target competition. All of you down here that have neon lasers or one form of laser system or you're into radio technology, we have a special frequency. And if you can figure out what the frequency is, and by the way it's going to change up. We've got a computer chip that's the size of the key on my phone here. And we're going to change it up so that every time somebody hits it, if we hit the frequency, guessing it, the light goes ping and it sounds off. It actually lights up. I sent a radio signal to the moon and I lit something up. I sent a laser target. I used a laser and I fired at the moon there and I hit one of the responders on the thing with enough energy I could do that. But it's not a real fancy laser. And all of a sudden, guess what? I got my pinball gratification. The lights go on. And they stay on, blinked for about 30 seconds. That's what you get for play. And then it's off again. By the way, send your $20 to Mission to the Moon, Buckets of Joy, $20 for every hit, every ping. Big video game, better than a lot more fun than just putting a quarter into a box over on the side of the lunchroom over there. The other part about this, the reason I bring this up is, guys, before we went to the moon with man, does anybody remember when we used to shoot bullets at it? How many of you remember the old Crockerjack commercial used to simulate this where they had a beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep be Do you remember what the names are? I'm challenging you on this. I want you to look this up. I'm going to ask you, how many missions of that type did we launch to the moon? It wasn't one or two. I'm going to give you a big hint there. It's a lot more than one or two. Now, that's the hard landers. When we say hard, it's like we were shooting bullets at the moon and whatever we hit, we got pictures right up until the last moment when Thud, she hits the ground and lots of spare little parts flying all over the lunar surface. We also did soft landings before. You might recall, and here's the other question for having fun, we also got to the moon. landed on the moon with humans and we walked over, oh no, me, we drove over to one of the other landers that was unmanned. Does everybody remember that? How many remember that? How many can go to their images and why, and this is what always fastens me, is why didn't they dwell on that more? It's like, whoa, dudes, look, we launched this thing like six, seven, eight, 10 years ago. No, it's 10 years ago now, Frank. 11 years ago, oh man. It looks pretty good. Yeah, it ain't nothing going to bother us here in space. We're like the only Maytag repairman to show up. Oh yeah, I guess you're right. But why is it we don't dwell on this? Why does it have a chance to... Why does this not beat the gong more? Of course, one of the reasons is because you have to deride America. You're driving America down because America did too much. But the other half about that is you're also retarding humanity in general. This is de-evolving, this is not evolving, this is not advancing. This is de-escalating, so to speak, if you want to call it that. We're going to de-escalate the space program, man. We got space junk on the moon, man. Well, that's pretty, the reason, and here's another thing to qualify this, and I'm not going to change subjects here, but I want to finish this with one thing. In the movie 2001, we had Clavius Moonbase by 2000. The point is, and the reason I want to finish with this, because the one thing about 2001, they say they were already overly ambitious. Really? Look at the pace of the American space program. Up until the ring knockers decided that the Americans were going too fast, too far and were ahead of the rest of the population. Up until that point, if you look at the logical, and by the way, what I walked you through, the first half hour of this program, I walked you through how easy it was to get a lunar launch FUD program going. All it does is get the junk up there. Every piece of junk you have counts for something. No airspace. Everything is weight. Now, it doesn't have to be the weight of a cast iron stove for each item for it to be viable and useful. Let's talk about higher metals and metallurgy. You guys out there already get your brain gears going. Some of you guys are machinists. You know what I'm talking about. Titanium, aluminum, duraluminum, all kinds of stuff. The next one would have been plastiel. Remember from doing this, there's another one that we were waiting for, plastiel, which to a degree we already have with many of the polymers that are in place. It's all lighter, just as heavy as steel. Unfortunately, it's about a degree to go in some ways. It's still an organic family in most cases. But guys, all this technology was at our fingertips 10 years ago, 20 years ago, 30 years ago, and 40 years ago. So when you see 2001, especially when at some point you're going to send kind of, shall we say, a jokingly, could we call it a cement mixer, but it's a lot more than that. At some point you're going to send a cement mixer. You've got plenty of dirt and you're going to come up with a way with heat or whatever for you to make materials on the planet that work for you. You see, on the Moon we're not talking all the way across the solar system. We're talking about something where eventually you can be, again, what's the big deal here? Unless of course everything that they did they're lying about, which is just as likely as not to. Think about that one. I don't think they want us to. Anyway, ideas, not just one men thing about the problems, ideas guys, that's what we're looking at. When we see things like this, what can we do to advance ourselves? How hard would it be? Now there's nothing I want to shift to. Operation Conestoga. Conestoga, as in the Conestoga wagon. How many of you remember this? How many of you remember that there were three private programs after the Apollo program? Conestoga 1, Conestoga 2, and Conestoga 3. Men who had a can-do attitude, who had worked for the space program when they went to the moon, went out west and built their own space program. Conestoga 1 was sabotaged on the pad. Conestoga 2, same. Conestoga 3 launched and was destroyed. Look them up and see if you can find them. In each case they were destroyed, slash self-destruct. My attitude, they were sabotaged. Now the fact of the matter is these have disappeared into the you can't think about doing things for yourself thing. What about National Geographic? Did they do a whole piece on the Conestoga program? Now, this is going to sound interesting and strange, but we also, a couple of nuts, many different very notable personalities, helped to finance the Conestoga Rocket Program. One of them was William Shatner. Not Captain Kirk! Yes, Captain Kirk. Now see how much you can find out there on the Conestoga project, guys. and take a look at the personalities and the people involved and the can-do attitude of the 70s and early 80s and where it was going. The interesting thing is everything I qualified the first part of this hour with would apply to a Conestoga project in that, remember, all the bureaucracy would be gone. The common sense application of what was already proven science was applied. That means that in reality either a public or a private project like that should have advanced and here we are in the year 2010. I don't want to hear about the space aliens and we got secret bases and this and the other. That's not the issue here. The issue is how can we demonstrate that the technology works and do it economically because once we have a cookie cutter launch platform that can get stuff up, The lunar surface would be a logical location to go for supplemental launches and additional activity in space. It's just common sense. In other words, why circumvent the moon? The moon is a massive reservoir of hardware and material. It has no restrictions that the Earth has with regard to its physical operation, not the least of which is an unhindered, non-environment. There is a minimal type of envelope around the moon, but it's nothing like the Earth. Ergo is an ideal working platform for space operations. This is all discussed years ago. It's all common sense. And again, this is not coast to coast, and I'm not George Norien. We're not going to worry about all the other questions and all the other speculation. That's not where Mark's coming from. I'm coming from the, you know, the, how do we make it work, you know, department. How do we make it work and how do we do it for bargain basements? Now we're not going to worry in risk of man's life so you guys don't have to worry about climbing into the big trash can and flying it to the moon. Well eventually the problem would be, you know, try to tell people they couldn't do it, is if you can take a 25 or 30 or 40 ton trash can full of goodies and land it on the moon softly and then have a light on the roof go blink blink blink. It's probably safe to say that getting a person or a bunch of people there wouldn't be any more difficult with whatever technology you want to support it. Bore units, diggers, hey guys with shovels take your pick. But as far as coming up with a system that would work, it's all off the shelf technology. And yet we're now looking at oh the next space race will be with China. Or is with China and somebody else. Why? Why are we even hesitating? Why are we even waiting? Why would we even come on? At the very least, we wasted billions taking potshots. Today, supposedly, all the technology is already proven. It wouldn't be a potshot. It'd just be a matter of how many do you want. The more you make, the cheaper they are. You do know that. Cheaper by the dozen, cheaper by the hundred, really cheap by the thousand. And all the technology is already there. Oh, by the way, the Delta rockets or the rockets we use, I'm going to challenge you to something else here real quick. I want you to look, because here's the thing to think about with those scuttles. When we were dropping these bullets on the moon and we dropped even the soft landers on the moon, Here's the next question. You might have to go to the library because there are some really cool books on this, not the least of which is one, which is an entire encyclopedia of all man-made rocketry. It is a color encyclopedia, very well executed, and everything is to scale. They had to make the original pieces really small, as far as like the other stuff, etc. But because of this, when you go through the whole of the catalog, you get to see all the upgrades and changes in the airframes of rocketry to include our nuclear arm, our commercial lifters, are retail lifters for spy satellites. The spies on the American people every day, they don't worry about the foreigners. They're spying on us for them. But the spy on the American people are rad on whoever launches a satellite, whatever it is. And every variation on the theme is there. I want you to look at something by scale. Look at the size of the bullet launchers and consider that they were able to get the stuff up there. Remember, once it gets into space, the project itself can slow itself down in soft land. Now, if we could do it in the 60s with those rockets, and then I want you to flip, it seems like you can physically do this. Mark's trying to show you in a book on a radio program. But if you look, look at the rockets that were launching those satellites in the 60s, and then thumb your fingers through all these other packages since, and understand that all of them are available. Most of them, afterwards, are like there's a mark 1, a mark 2, a mark 3, a mark 4, a mark 6, a mark 7, a mark 8, whatever. It's like Lincoln Continental. You still get a Lincoln Continental, only it's got more thrust, it's got more room, it's got land on the roof on the rocket, what the heck. Maybe it's got more chrome, maybe they got less, maybe it's a low rider, low silhouette model with no markings, kind of like what they did with the California limos, you know, that kind of thing. Oy, I'm telling you, whatever you want, we can put on your rocket, I'm telling you. Oy. What do you want it to be? The point is bargain basement, mass production, easiest model. Let's go one step further. Here would be something interesting. ICBM rockets. OK, there was a proposal because it could already be done. The thrust potential of most of the later model ICBMs are such that why waste them? Why not use them for specific launches to the moon? If you're going to have to carve them up, why not deescalate the pressure on society since everybody wants to start knocking these things out of service. Why don't we, since we're talking to the Russians, we're talking to the Chinese, nobody is going to be guessing. The missile can be moved, or it can be launched even from sight, but it can be used for a throw and jump. As long as everybody knows what's going on, how would anybody be scared? It's only going to be one. We're not going to launch 50 of them at once. In fact, let's put it this way. You know what? We've got a launch central pad. We're using these big old rockets. They've got lots of energy. They're not going to be throwing a nuke. We're going to throw a Coke can instead. It's going to be lighter, actually. And people don't realize how dense and heavy nukes are. So, we're going to eliminate that weight, but we're going to have, you know, with the throw potential, with the throw weight available and the lift platform available, we could launch from every nuclear fleet platform area how many satellites, how many actually lunar impact, you know, landers, soft landers. And they don't even have to be as big as our other model. We can do a cheapy model that's smaller that will fit the lift package that will, you know, like a popcorn, you know, like a cork and a bottle will go straight on the top. And then we go, okay, hi Russia, China, you know, 416, grid coordinates, GPS, so and so. We're launching a satellite. Don't worry about a thing. Everybody calm down. Don't get my clap. Don't boast anything you have. It's only going to be wrong. We're not launching the body. We're just launching one. It's going to go up and out. It's not coming back away. See how that works. How hard is that? It's that easy. So all the rest is BS. It's all bad for everybody with BS. So now the next step is, is there somebody who had an aware with all of the intelligence to plug in Conestoga 4? Because Conestoga 4 would be a different project. Mark is not a pessimist. Mark is an optimist. And I'm not overly. I'm just common sense optimistic based upon the idea that A to B, B to C, C to D, E to F, and just with the idea of going to the moon can be applied to all the other problems that we're facing with regard to how we deal with them and how intelligently we deal with them. Most important is we don't have to, because everybody goes, we'll take this, we have to reinvent that, and we have to, no we don't. Here, let me put it this way. Do you want to know how crude, let me give you an example of just how simple it would be. We were talking about this a couple of weekends ago, and that's why I got into this subject tonight, and I want to this afternoon. Just the LEM, the Land Lunar Excursion Module System, the Lander, the actual thing that goes down. Guys, the only thing that it has to do is the little landing arms have to come out because it would have to fold for launch. The only thing they have to do is drop down and lock in place. That's it. Other than that, there is a retro rocket package. And there's attitude dressers. That's it. We're not coming up off the moon. We're landing on the moon. And I'm going to take and cannibalize all the goodies I leave there. I'm going to use them for something else. Think about that. That's it. Well, yeah, but you need it. No, you don't. Well, yeah, but you need it. No, we don't. It's not even manned. It's unmanned. I don't even care if it lands as soft as it should necessarily, depending on what it's doing. But ideally, we'll common sense, come on, give me a break. We want the China to end up intact with a moving ban. You know what I mean? We don't want to bounce everything up. So we can do this. It's so simple, it's ridiculous. Now, the only question is why we're not. Why we're not officially why we're not publicly if nothing else and it's no race although be fun because you know what as soon as somebody said bargain basement time Well, this is going to cost you at $29.95. In fact, the next step is we're going to do the Excursion Coach Model version that you can land on the moon. Anybody want to be there to stay? We aren't taking bringing people back yet, but we've got 416 of these pods up there. We've got food, construction equipment, all kinds of gear. I don't know how many different power packs we've got up there. How many solar cells have we got? Anybody want to go? 416 of these things stuck up there, enough supplies to probably outfit equipment, man, uh, three, four, five hundred people stationed. Who wants to be there? Hey, by my little moon, you don't think you wouldn't find people raise their hand yesterday? Wow. How many trash cans you got? Well, we have the map. In fact, we'll do a 3D for you. Nowadays, we can do it like a video game. I can even show you what mare, where they are, how far apart they are, and do a little fake simulation to show you each of the little pods and how they landed. Now there's Fred. We call him upside down Freddy because one of them went in, scuttled a little hard, bounced three times, and whatever's inside is kind of stretched out all over the lunar surface there. But that's the oddball out. 415 landed soft. Number one, 4-16, a little rough. But we'll live with it. So who wants to go to the moon? You've got all kinds of junk to play with. You know how to turn a ranch? Congratulations. But that's not all this space race stuff and it's not all this chewing on the toenails and it's a... No, it's called life. It would be everyday, it would be really cool. It would sure be a lot better blowing each other to bits with one of the ring knockers, especially the globalist kosher mafia, telling everybody we all are going to be staring at each other over each other's gun sights. We can still do that though. You can watch them, you can still be staring at each other through the gun sights while you're busy, you know, heading for the stars. It's kind of fun. Wow. Anyway, just little things to think about. And again, debate, argue, contest, I don't care. Please don't show me the argument that we have lunar base here, blah, blah, blah. I know, that's a separate subject. That's if you want to try to undermine everything we're talking about by saying, oh, there's just no sense in doing it. They're always there, it's feudal resist, the Cold War, if we build anything, the nuclear war will attack everything along the way around the wide eye. Weeeeze. Weeeeze. See, that's the whole purpose behind that kind of BS. That's why you can talk about it coast to coast, three hours non-stop, and if I tell anybody about the secret Martian base, they will kill me. Weren't you on last month? Yes, but if I tell you about the secret Martian base, they might kill me. I can't tell you anything about the Molt Lunar Base because if I did that they'd kill me. I'll show you pictures. Look, I'm on the radio. Now, it doesn't mean that there isn't some neat stuff to look at, guys. One of my problems with this is they had to wait until everybody's kind of dying off, even though these photographs. Here's an example. This is something I would challenge. Photographs have been available for nine years. year 2010. 35 years, 30 years. It's a fun subject. It really is a fun subject. But, example, and again, oh, I'm going to probably burn this hour, but I've got to bring this up. You know, this guy is saying, you know, oh, C-3PO's head is on the moon. OK, and it's in this picture from the lunar landing. OK, and where is it? Oh, it's Apollo 17. OK, and you're the big rock. Oh, wait a minute. Now, here's the problem with this, because they show the picture and they're arguing, and granted guys, the idea is that nobody was paying attention. Everybody saw these pictures, but nobody was paying attention. Now, listen carefully, because here's something, and I know, oh, they're going to change the photo before they use it in National Geographic or Time or Look or Life. The reason I bring up Look or Life, because guys, remember, those were the big magazines, were the really big pictures. That's why I'm bringing this up because some of you collect magazines some of you know people who collect magazines Now there's this claim that there's this little thing that has C3PO's head next to rock 406 or whatever the number is 567-724439 Delta and Tango Foxtrot, okay, whatever it is. I don't care The point is that we have 100 or a dozen different publications that had finest quality photographic reference available. They could produce and reproduce pretty accurately anything you're going to see. Pretty good scale too. Now, if we see that there's a rotoscoping done in the television, we can't do anything about that. We can have it on tape, but we can't disprove or prove that. But they changed something or altered something. But think about this, nobody was thinking about C-3PO's head back in 1977 when we were on the moon. And so they cranked out the photos real fast and they show you all these pictures of the same shots that everybody is claiming is where this thing is. Remember that they are tangible from the era photographs that were reproduced en masse or in public. They are from that collection. Now, as an analyst, the first thing I want to do is take those original pictures from all these magazines and cross-reference them to the photo that they claim now has C-3PO's head in it. There are two options. Either A, there will be no C-3PO head at all, or B, there will be a rotoscope during a phased area. Have you guys ever done photo work? Remember how you like haze things? It's like when people, everybody has perfect, perfect complexions in 1964 albums. Why? Because it was the job of the guy running the camera shop when he did the yearbook to make sure that everybody's complexion was perfect. How? With an enlarger and with a little paddle and a little bit of work and every picture meticulously gone over. We all would have perfect faces. You see how it works? So when you do a photo in that era for that type of photo work, they would have to pixel and wouldn't just be regular pixelation as we know it. In fact, crude by comparison because of this, but you will fog the area over so you could see that there is doctoring. But it would be in an object that was in, shall we say, a glass bubble. An example, the camera took the picture on the moon. Okay, plus or minus, we don't care, supposedly or probably. It comes back. They take the picture and they make a copy of it and it goes in National Geographic. National Geographic reprinted 700,000 or a million copies of this, depending on how many members there are, plus the libraries. And so there are physical copies that are a benchmark in time that are either going to validate or invalidate based upon again evaluation of the imagery what is talked about now about how there was body parts of C3PO in that picture. Now there's an example of how you do Intel work. from other sources and you have to rate the other sources. Something else I just did here on the air. The same is true with combat evaluation. Though it's done in the exact same way that I just helped to develop it in the last 15 minutes here, it's done with everything else. You have to source. The source is a zero because you can't be sure if it's a positive or negative. You don't know if there's an agenda. If it's just a physical picture taken by a satellite, the satellite has no agenda. But the people underneath the satellite do so they can be trying to deceive, they can be trying to misdirect, or they can just be caught with their britches hanging in the breeze and they got two big orbs there that are sitting side by side that really are somebody's pants down out in the daylight where they shouldn't be. You see how that works? The same is true when evaluating all these other processes. examples we can compare. Does it mean we have to get up our dead artists? Yes, you can't do this by computer because computer can be altered. A picture of what is happening in a magazine can be altered by the same computer that Wodow or the same as the operator would have modified the original copy when the thing was reproduced in the magazine if we say that that was altered. So you've got to go physically find the magazine guys. That's why we have magazine dealers. That's why we have antique dealers. That's why we have people that deal in antiquity. Although this is an antiquity, this is modern time history. Short time. Okay, still today's standards are guess what. Now our space program, hell, half of it is antique. If antique is 50 years or older, then I'd say most of our space fleet is antique. Pretty much every day. Or at least let's put it this way. Wall on the tooth and getting ready to sit in the rocker. You see my point? That's just the space program. Don't get me on this whole thing about weapons. You know how I feel about that. Yeah, tell me about the Humvee. I sat in one of the originals in 1975-76. Bradley Fighting Vehicle, originally known as the McVie. 1975, sat in the original prototypes. And the XM models too. and walked right up from Chrysler and from the other proving grounds where they were testing the original McVees and its final XM construction variant, then of course to become the Bradley Fighting Vehicle. That's what? 75, 76, 77. In that two year period you're looking at from between 33 and 35 years old. And this striker, there's nothing new about that. That's just simply another gimmick vehicle, guys. Even the latest, looks like it brinks over. It looks like a Brinks armored car on steroids. Talk about crude and rude. Just a big old, what we got? Big truck. Find a big truck. Put a frame. There we go. Put some slab on it. There you go. Make it really thick, put some roll rig on the inside and some counter blast technology and congratulations. The South Africans did it for pennies, we do it for billions and we got ripped off because most of it has been overseas, not here. On top of everything else. Sixty cents out of every American dollar for a national defense is spent overseas, not here. We didn't and we're not getting our money's worth. Okay, it's just that simple. And again, talking about devolving. The reason I brought this up is qualifying all this other stuff. Now we look at the war effort. Guys, take a look at the technology that's being run. Seriously take a look. No, not the propaganda BS, because you know if you want to have fun with propaganda, I can show you a replay of all the garbage and the type that's being thrown at us right now by giving you a stack of popular mechanics magazines that's three and a half foot thick that's sitting above me on the next floor. And if you just go through the whole future, I can show you how, for instance, we finally committed to the worst model we could choose. To be quite honest, the Osprey. Do you know how many variations on the Osprey concept we had out there and some really, really worked well without killing everybody on board? You know that? And again, people were, well, we didn't have the black box technology. Well, we do. And while we're making something beat the air to submission that shouldn't, And no, don't give me the bumble BBS because we're as far from as possible with the Osprey. We had better choices in aircraft, better performance range, safer for the air crews, and a high probability of survival if it has to go in hard. Which does not exist with the Osprey. The Osprey is a kinetic energy machine that if it has any problems, the crew is dead, dead, dead. So don't tell me about high tech and how wonderful all this is. No, wrong. There's a place where high tech combined in the physical world fails. And that's where I want to slap people as we close here at the top of the hour. I want to slap everybody because we're heading out here a minute. But to the idea that it's fuel resistant, you will be absorbed. Really? Just look at the last 35 years of what's happened because these cliff apes have gotten back into power the way that they have. Take a look at these goofs. What have they done for America? Or more importantly is, what have they done to America? This is the enemy you're worried about? These shysters can barely tie. In fact, they've got Velcro for a reason. They have Velcro because they can't handle tying their unzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomzoomz Now, all we have to do is get our act together. We could go and do whatever we want to do with our society and do it in a positive way. For America, the rest of the world will tag along if it wants to. And if the rest of the world gets better at certain things, we'll know real quick. But that's a healthy competition we could have a lot of fun with, couldn't we? I'd say so. Hmm, not very lethal either. What are we going to do? Build places in space. That sounds like housing development. I haven't seen a skyscraper kill anybody yet of you. Well, granted, this skyscraper of a false-out-of-the-sky would be embarrassing. That's the only other problem. Well, we are at the top of the hour. I know we're going to probably hear the music in a minute here. Oh, maybe a little more music. I've got to stretch this out. Don saying, or forgive me, Ed saying buy time, buy time. Okay, well, we'll buy a little more time here. But anyway, other points. Again, arizona-militia.com. arizona-militia.com. Do we have a caller? Okay, we're good. As long as we didn't have a call. You may have a patient listening. That's okay. Everybody hang on because we've got Spike coming up next after this program. So stay tuned if you're listening and you're wondering, yeah, I spent a whole hour on a unique subject. There are a lot of other things happening. You know about them. But I also want to plan and plant seeds for the future, guys. What are we fighting for? We're embracing our liberty. We love our freedom. What are we fighting for? I want to have a lot of fun. I'm still going to have a lot of fun, and I'm going to keep smiling while my enemy is busy defecating in his pants. That's simple. We are going to enjoy our life. They are miserable rotten souls on the other side. Treat them as such. Miserable rotten souls. No place to go but down for them. No place but up for us. God bless the Republic, death of the New World Order. We shall prevail ladies and gentlemen, the Empire. We're on a march, we'll be back at about, oh, an hour or so here, but in the meantime, Spike Timmons is going to drive a nail through the head of the New World Order right here on LTR. Bye bye. Get the seed in our home and boys, let it go, where all can see. Get with our devotion boys, call it the Liberty Tree. It's the tall old tree and the strong old tree. The sun's just the other sun's the sun's of Liberty. On the storm boys, water down its roots will be. And the sun will always shine on the old Liberty Tree. 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