July 21, 2010
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Mark Koernke hosted the evening Intelligence Report on July 21, 2010, covering preparedness topics including weapons systems, ammunition storage, night vision equipment, and specialized firearms components. The show featured extensive discussion of SABO (sabot) ammunition technology for achieving high-velocity projectiles, detailed guidance on ammunition can storage and organization for field deployment, and vendor information for night vision goggles and related tactical equipment. A caller representing an Arizona militia coalition announced plans for a three-day border operation beginning August 27, 2010, seeking patriotic Americans to participate.
- ammunition storage
- sabo technology
- night vision
- ar-15
- preparedness
- border security
- arizona militia
- weapons systems
- tactical gear
- ammunition cans
- jd components
- firearms
- desert operations
- field deployment
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Live 365 That website again, www.jrhenterprises.com or give us a call. The number is 912-379-9441. That number again is 912-379-9441. JRH Enterprises. With all the bowing to foreign dictators and apologizing for America, even a president as great as me can't do everything. So to keep us safe, Homeland Security released a report called, The Radical Right-Wing Extremists Are Coming To Kill You, or something like that. While it provides no actual evidence of domestic right-wing terror, believe me, I know terrorists when I see one. Why, some of my best friends are... So if you'd like to be among the first on the New Terror Watch list, visit Knob Creek Gun Range. Hone your skills with family and individual memberships and unlimited range time. Stock up on ammo before the gun bans go into effect. Or buy a handgun, assault rifle, or reloading supplies. Knob Creek Gun Range in West Point, Kentucky is one mile off Dixie Highway on Highway 44 at 690, Richie Lane. Look, it's not like we're bugging the phones or anything, so give him a call at 922-4457. That's 922-4457. Or visit machinegunshoot.com. It's easier to find than my birth certificate. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat. And speaking low to me, he said, we've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. But tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate. And your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold you trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame You've taken Satan's number you trade it in your name You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be blamed. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As Iowoke vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each God-given right, we only watch him tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep, and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave, is to still the land of the free? Evening, ladies and gentlemen, this is the Evening Intelligence Report. I'm Mark Hernke. one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories south, southwest, east, and north. Well, ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to us on... libertytreeradio.4mg.com, pbn.4mg.com, and we are on live 365, then go to Liberty Tree Radio. We are also on AM and FM micro stations CB base stations and ultra net technologies both east and west of the Mississippi along with southern and central Alaska We are in the hallmark network on the Eastern seaboard top of Maine to the bottom of Florida bottom of Florida across the arc of the Gulf of Mexico all the way over to Texaco then up and across surround through oh, let's see Oh, Nebraska over to the third of Wyoming and then back over to Iowa from there across the Mississippi and over to the Golden Spike project there and the Great Smokies along all of the Blue Ridge from one end to the other. Remember there is a party on the beach on Saturday, party on the beach on Saturday, party on the beach on Saturday. Also a meeting at the restaurant on Sunday, meeting at the restaurant on Sunday, a meeting at the restaurant on Sunday. Order your food, put your food order in advance and please make a point of also ensuring that you have a little transport space. You never know. I don't have a spike. I normally would have something by now. I am sure you have hardware waiting. I don't know if you need larger vehicles. You may want to check with the S3 there to see what's going on and find out exactly what transport or support is needed and then go from there. I know that everybody is going to be expected and it's going to be pretty busy. Not hot. They got air conditioning. It's a big conference center, so it's good school. Anyway, it is the 21st of July, 2nd year Afabian socialist and Soviet socialist occupation of America with a K, and that is 2010, Old Earth Calendar. Now, I mentioned Kamaby Keep here earlier in the last part of the second hour for the afternoon program, and Kamaby Keep, I better give the numbers out here, maybe one more time to be safe, 5-7-0-4-3-4-8-000. That's 5-7-0-4-3-4-8,000. 5-7-0-4-3-4-8,000. And what that'll do, get hold of Kamo Be Keep, find out about Rhodesian camouflage. You may have a use for it. RoKamo works exceptionally well in the environment we're talking about down there on the border, so it's something you might want to consider. Also, one more time on this, it's Weapons Wednesday, but if you don't know where you're going, you won't know where the hell to fight. Or how do you, well of course you can go to the sound of battle as I kind of mentioned in the earlier hours today. But seamless.usgs.gov seamless.usgs.gov seamless.usgs.gov and topomaps.usgs.gov topomaps.usgs.gov dot gov. That's topomaps.gov. That's topomaps.usgs.gov. Hopefully we reinforced that enough in the playback. You should be able to figure out what's going on there. With regard to mapping, get at least basic master copies. Go to your color copier and do a whole bunch of cranked out pieces, guys. It will be pretty straightforward there. It won't hurt at all. In fact, it would be a solution for all the other people out there that need mapping. Also, laminate. Watch for people getting rid of office equipment. So many businesses are going under or going out or... Finally, they're clearing out the buildings where the offices were. You're going to run into a lot of equipment like this that traditionally was used by American industry. Laminators, one place I got seven of them in a pile. All brand new in the box. I didn't get any of the laminating material from that site, but I did get a box of laminating material from another site. And so a little heat plate system, you throw the sheet in there, you slip it between the laminating sheet, which is a folded over piece. It's got a seamless one end and the other three sides are sealed with heat. And you laminate the whole page. Congratulations, 8.5x11. This makes for a very effective field map when the time comes so that's something to think about I think we got Don there with us, too I think so too mark there. We go all about a drop chart same way. Yep all done with the laminate again straightforward easy to operate and again No batteries required just common sense Brano gray matter application Another thing here real quick, and I mentioned this before but this has to do with A lot of people we were looking for cameras for security or to use cameras for instance on the helmets. Yeah, like in the movie Aliens or if you want to make up what is basically a camera system for your weapon system. That's another option too. Uh... Yep. 1 3rd inch color CCTV video cameras 1399 with OmniVision CMOS silver. Part number is CM208CA and that's from computergeeks.com. com that c u m p u t e r g e e k s dot com computer geeks dot com little solutions guys uh... that basically we're talking about with these look how small the cameras are on a cell phone if you didn't have the cell phone wrapped around it how big would that camera module be and how many places could you put it since it be about the size of a sugar cube okay well we've already i'm sorry mark we've already years ago 10 years ago now we addressed the cameras mounted on the M16s with the with the little display an inch or two in front of one eye hanging off of the helmet. That's right. And you can lay down in that tall grass and hold your gun up above the grass and gain a view of the target while you're laying on the ground. Wouldn't that be something you're walking across the field and you're all of a sudden under fire and you look over there and there seems to be an M16 just suspended above the grass. Shoot below it immediately. Well, and the thing about this too is that the M16 of all the weapons, there are two firearms that would probably be the most versatile in where this would apply. The AR-15 family rifle with a buffer system means that there's truly very little felt recoil and it's also stretched out over a much longer stroke because of the buffer system. The other would be any of the super light pistols that are smaller, you know, in caliber. but almost full-size. Probably the best example of the camp carbenz in 45 or 9 millimeter. It could be the High Points, the Marlins, you name it. There are many other companies out there that made a carbene like that at one time or another. Those are very light recoil, reasonable fire power, and very forgiving. In general, when it comes to operations like that, you'd be able to easily field it, deploy it, And again, bring it back out of battery, in other words, take it out of the line of fire very quickly because it's also a lightweight firearm to maneuver. There's little or no way to actually manipulate, which is critical. I wouldn't have all the other doodads on a camera, forgive me, on a camera gun. like that. What I would do is have just the camera system maybe a laser point system. That's an option but remember lasers can work like tracers under certain conditions. Tracers work both ways. Yeah so lasers are not necessarily a plus plus but at the very least the camera and then everything else streamlined on the gun to keep the combat weight down and the snare weight down. After all you're going to be firing that gun at arm length. Both arms. Yep. Which means, yeah, you're going to have leverage, you're going to have torque, you're going to have felt torque with the recoil of the weapon. No, it won't be much, but it's still going to change the location point of impact as you're pulling the trigger. So that's another thing taken into consideration why research and testing needs to be done. The other option there is to actually come up with a frame mount system where it's stabilized on the corner of the building. For instance, you could actually come up with a frame that would just allow you to press into the corner, support the rifle, and allow you just to expose the weapon and the camera to use it. And that would be it. That's another option there. Now the other thing we talked about long-range performance and also the other thing is hyper velocity. I want to touch on this thing. This is the Sabo technology. I don't care if it's Stans .50 caliber or Mark's .308 battle rifle. With discarding Sabo dart systems you're looking at being able to achieve velocities close to five thousand or at five thousand miles per hour. Forgive me for any correction five thousand miles per hour. Five thousand feet per second. There, slap mark in the head on that one. Anyway, five thousand feet per second guys, that's laser. You're talking about pulling the trigger and it's on target. It's just that it's there. That's all there is to it The advantage is for instance consider this with discarding Sabo We can actually push a steel dart what we can do is if you have somebody out there with CNC machining or a nice lathe You take some 41 40 chromoly or some stainless stock or whatever you want to use And what you do is literally mill down 30 caliber projectiles or 223 projectiles if it's 30 caliber. For the 50 cal you'll go to 30 caliber. For the 30 caliber you're going to go to 223. In either case you want the densest, heaviest material that you can for the bullet, the projectile in the SABO. Now that kind of speed, I'm sorry Mark, that kind of speed, the bullet is discarding molecules as it passes through the air. So if it was led it'll be melting in flight. That's the problem. It can't be led. It won't hit the target if it's 5,000 feet away. It will destroy itself in flight. Yeah, it would be like watching, it would be like the ring wraiths at the end of the movie of Lord of the Rings when they're streaking towards the volcano when they turn to ash in flight. Well the bullet would go the same way. Yeah, now tungsten would be an option, a little pricey, but it's possible. The other thing is having the projectiles made to spec in a higher metal and then again buying quantity of them. But just as a... So away your old drill bits. Right. There's the best example because again they are already can be at 30 caliber or they can be milled down to that spec. Keep that in mind too. Now JD components is the company we haven't mentioned in a while again John and Doug I don't know if they're alive They're getting up there in years, but they at least last time I knew they were still answering the phone It's John and Doug and Joyce may also answer the phone too If you can try to call before 10 a.m.. Because they're out on the road They're in machine or machine alley over there in Utah Where a lot of other machine plants and weapons production takes place so they're up and down all over the place in that area Well, JD Components is the name of the company. 75 East 350 North. What a street name. 75 East 350 North. Orem, O-R-E-M, Utah. 8. That's 8-0-0-5-7. The phone number, now slap me in the head there. 8-0-1-3-7-2. 3-8-0-7. That's 8-0-1-3-7-2. That's a cell, or 8012257007. Again, that's 8012257007. That's 801. 225-7007 and that's for the 762-30 caliber Sabos and they're supposed to be doing the half inch Sabos by now. Don, I think they were supposed to be working on that. The prices are $6 for $130 caliber Sabos, $50 for $1,000, see the savings, or... That's just the projectile in the jacket, right? No, that's just for the plastic jacket. That's just for the Sabo cup. Oh, okay. Just the Sables, which by themselves are pretty intricate. So again, now they can be in a number of different colors because they've used different chip at different times to mold these. So there are different colors, you can ask about that. There is a reason that I like different colors. If you have different load specs for certain types of Sabo, Wouldn't it be nice to have a color code system that's permanent that can't be changed so that when you load it you look at it and go, oh that's a blue tip. Oh, a blue sable. That's a 4860 feet per second and that's one of my tungsten loads. Oh wait a minute, there's some red chip. Oh that's standard 4140 chromolydart steel and that's been tempered also. Okay, that's a 4600 feet per second plus or minus and used a different powder there. In other words, you could actually spec out your loads depending on how unique the projectile is, the more accurate and the more specific you want to be about use with it. $4.60 per hundred if you buy $5,000 or more, which is not bad at all, looking price-wise. Now you still have to find either a standard US 55 grain projectile, standard 2-3 round, Or, you can build your own. You can also make the dart out of brass, bronze, copper. I mean, there's been another number of different experiments. It's purely a matter, again, of how well will the metal hold up to the temperature range because of friction in flight. OK? So, uh... Now, going to interject it, you're looking to save drill bits. For your 50 cal, this isn't going to work for your 30 or your 223, but look for broken or worn down beyond use 930 seconds, 516s, and 1130 seconds drill bit sizes or the similar sizes in metric. I don't know the conversion right now, forgive me. But those would be the sizes that would come right around 30 caliber. Think about it, you guys. Don't throw your drill bits away. It's broken and worn out drill bits, though. Do not discard them. They can be used for so many things that you can't count them all. At the very least, you've got a nice keyway pin you might need for something. But as a projector, turn it into a fastener. Put threads on it. That's right. Again, high-end metal too. Remember, the high-end metal is what are being used for making tools. Consistency and uniformity are critical. Unless it's Chinese done. Anyway, also real quick here for the website, www.jdcomponents.com. That's www.jdcomponents.com. www.jdcomponents.com. And what you'll do there, you can go to the site, down they have a math formula for saboting every 30 caliber round you can imagine. 760 by 25, 30-30 Winchester. Any rifle cartridge, no matter how small or how big, if it's 30 caliber, they have the math table there for you to get the specs. And most of them, they already have them mapped out. So there's no problem figuring out what's going to work where. So again, that's Sabre Accelerators, JD Components. Their phone number is 801-225-7007. That's 801-225-7007. Their address is JD Components, JND Components. You know, that means John and Doug, by the way. JND Components, 75 East 350 North, Orem, Utah. 8-4-0-5-7. OK? And that's their address. So these guys are cool. www.jdcomponents.com, www.jdcomponents.com, and then take care of the rest. You talk to them, see what they have available. They were going to do some of the other odd loads, too, in the 418 or 416. We'll see what happens there. And hmm. There we go. The other thing that most important I don't know the 50 cal was the priority that was first and by now here we are looking at the middle of 2010 I would think they're up to speed on that finally. So we'll find out more but give them a call say hi tell them you heard about them on the intelligence report. We need an echo for that. Anyway, report, report, report, report. Anyway, let's see, what a country. Another thing, and now this is again got connections obviously with the Israeli arms industry, but people were looking for odd magazines. Example, I don't know why Don, oh I do know why, but what's happened is a bunch of the MAS semi-automatic rifle magazines have come into the country and they are in pretty good quantity right now. Now, if you have the 7.5 or the .308 Moss rifle, right now the only come in 10-round mags, guys, but the 10-round mags are readily available. There's a number of companies, but I noticed that Wada Con 3, Incorporated, Wada Con 3, Incorporated, out of Mission Vaho, California, has the mags, plus they have some pretty good buys on other mags if they have them in stock. You have to shop around. But these are for the unique mags. If you have a Schmidt Ruben, for instance, or if you have one of the Odd Ross rifles, or if you have, again, the Moss rifle in the semi-auto configuration. Beautiful weapon, by the way, very well made. And yes, I know it's French, but they actually did pretty good work there. And the weapon itself is very comfortable to fire. It was still in service until not too long ago at least as a sniper rifle all rifles will take a rail system or do take a rail scope system so if you if you are going to buy them or if you already have bought it they you will also find that the scope rail system the fixture is available I would buy one right away if you don't have it there was both there were both an aftermarket model and an original factory version made by the French both are competent we have tested and used both about 10 years ago very very nice system, very very very much unique and both in 7.5 French which is available by Pre-V Partisan through the Import European Ammo brand new non-corrosive boxer prime heat and eel case that's reloadable 7.5 French so if you got a MAS 49 or a MAS 56 rifle if you got one of the MAS you know bolt action pre-war rifles guess what in whatever configuration with 7.5 French the ammunition is available. Now the most common two companies that have the preview partisan ammo in stock are JG Sales and also AIM Surplus. JgSales.com and AIMSurplus.com. I believe that main military may also carry it so depending on who's closer that will determine who you want to buy from but main military of course is a sponsor so that would be a good choice to help support the programming. The phone number for WOT-A-COUNT-3, if you want to try and check them out, see what they have, is 949-770-8881. Again, that's 949-770-8881. And that's WOT-A-COUNT-R-E.com. WOT-W-H-A-T, WOT-A-COUNT-R-E.com. And WOT-A-COUNT-R-E.com. If you get a chance, check them out, see what they've got. I think they'll like what's there. But again, in specialized mags, that's your interest. That's why you'd be interested probably in looking in that direction. Other stuff, there were a few of the things that were priority. I want to make sure that we got that right, too. Samco Global, no, that's not the one I was looking for. Anyway, Don. Before we go any farther here and again, oh we're at the bottom right now as it is. Let's do this. Go ahead, we've got a lot of people asking about night vision. Just got another letter here yesterday. Again guys, pay attention. Don, if you're going to buy night vision, why buy it from a stranger? You can buy it from a friend and an ally. Get hold of Don Betcher and call him to find out more about what can be accessed and the price. You'll find the price is better than anywhere else. Don, go ahead and give out all your information, please. Well, the first bit of information I want to sneak through the airwaves here would be, you know, it's the 21st day of July. You're of our Lord 2010. That's right. Again, July 21st, 2010, and you know, here comes a familiar and rather comforting sound, unless you're on the other end. One in the chamber, the slide, the battery, the magazine is in the well, and I do have confirmation on Net Weapons Wednesday. It is. Now with that in mind, you know, you like to see a target before you take a shot at it, right? And you know, I remember that crew, that guy that commented on to the Marine Corps in one of the first sentences in one of the chapters of his book, Eons, have wanted to be able to see in the dark and not be seen. Well, he went on to say, we still haven't been able to do that, but that book was written a long time ago. And that particular chapter was written a long time ago. Well, we've got beyond that bit of technology. We can see in the dark and not be seen, unless somebody else has the same technology. So, you know, if you want to talk about night vision, you guys, we can talk about first, second, third generation night vision goggles. Night vision goggles. There ought to be an echo to that one, Mark. You're right. It's like the standard in the industry. Can you get night vision goggles? Yeah, I can. And then we talk for a while and then we find out this guy's not a medic or a doctor or a mechanic or an armorer. He just wants to do this, that, or the other thing. So he either gets a viewer or a gunsight or a pair of binoculars or whatnot. And again, night vision goggles, it's almost a cliche. But if that's what you're after, you guys, I can get you night vision goggles. If you want to talk to me, you can reach me at, after this hour, about 31 minutes. That would give us time to clear the airwaves. You can punch in those numbers, 231-96848. Again, 23196, because it was a happy with. He said it's like a generation viewer that I've been talking about. You've got his manufacturer once about. He's been very uniform in his performance and as mentioned by the participants, It's like looking through a window into a lighted, green lighted area. Night time to day. But again, talking about that second generation device, it's 2.8. Might as well call it three power magnification. It'll take a one-two-three battery or a double-a battery. It's a multiple power source, which is really cool. It'll fit in your BDU pocket, in your cargo pocket. It's not a little piece. It's meant for looking across a great area. My source wants $1,000 for it and they'll get delivery beyond that. $30 to $40 depending on where you are in the nation. I'll put it in your mailbox for $980. I know I'm not putting a lot off on that, but I'm picking up the delivery too and so I'm kind of beating them up pretty good. It's their kind of what you would call, it's not a loss leader, but it's their entry level and they want to be, when it comes to, they're trying to This particular source wants to be head and shoulders above everybody else. And if you want to talk about that simple viewer, you can reach me at 231-796-8458 or a gun site that is 308 capable. It's only two power magnification. But if you're shooting with your iron in the daytime, two power at night is going to be more than satisfactory. We've talked about that before too because the less elements of glass you put in front of the night vision tube, the light amplifying device portion of the whole of the site or viewer, the more light will hit that tube and the brighter they tend to work. The more glass you put in front of it, the less light hits the tube. That in mind, that's why you don't see 20 power and 40 power night vision. It's not cracked. If you want to talk about a two-piece, a two-power second generation device that will sit on top of your FN, your 308, your AK10, your AR10 rather, that ArmaLite and the 308 version. All day long the manufacturer will warranty that on top of your 308 for two years. They generally, a lot of other night vision sources right now, it's a one year, again they're trying to be head and shoulders above everybody else in the industry. That's one of the reasons why I run with this particular source. That gun sight, you guys, they want $16.99 for it. They don't like to move on it because they're going out the door. It's not like they're having trouble selling them, but I'll put it in your mailbox for $15.60. Do the math, which would you rather purchase from? And I don't mean to treat you like a dummy. I'm sorry. But what's the, you know, hey, $15.60, $16.99? That used to be 1,000 or 1,400 rounds of ammunition. It might not be these days, but it could be a good portion thereof. So if you want to talk to me about night vision you guys, after this hour, just punch in those numbers. Two, three, one, nine, eight, four, five, eight. And we can talk about first generation viewers or gun sites. And we're looking at a first generation gun site that's just over $300 now, Mark. A generation gun site. It's not something you're going to put on your 308. You put it on your 50 and pull the trigger once. The manufacturer probably isn't going to warranty it. It will work fine on your .22, your .223, as long as you know it's not some bolt action in a plastic stock and you're shooting real hot loads. But we're looking at a first generation gun sight just above $300 you guys. If you want to talk to me about that you can reach me at 231-796-8458. How about that Gibbs oil? How about that wipe out? from Georgia called us most of two years ago now talking about the wipeout. Best thing he's ever seen. And according to Marcus he's seen a lot and tried to number different products. And the wipeout is the quickest bore cleaner he's found. Wipeout. Yep, sounds like a safari song but wipeout. And once you get that bore clean how about that Gibbs oil to kind of seal it up. And you know when you run even if you run a rag down that bore and you oil that more and then you run a dry patch down it and you run another dry patch down it. That first shot out of your 30 caliber, out of your 50 caliber, isn't going to be the most exacting placement. You're going to need another shot or two to follow the gun and clear the last little bit of oil out to start shooting them dinky small groups. That and mine too. I know you want to clean your gun and I know you want to, the first shot, you know, to impact where you want it to, but there's a little caveat there. After you clean your gun, that first, that second shot might be what one would on air. You guys may have seen it, you may have not. It might not be a whole lot. It might just be a quarter inch at 100 yards. That would kind of think, well, you just overlook that one and then start shooting the smaller groups. So bear that in mind, you guys. If you're wanting to shoot one shot and have it where you want it to be, not where it wants to be at 300, 400, or 1,000 yards, bear that in mind. Wanting to sneak in someplace and put a permanent fix on something, you don't want to do that with an oily barrel. Even if you fold a couple of dry patches through. So I yield the floor to you Mark. Real quick on that. Terry Paul is the individual who does Wipeout and Painless and Max. Those are the different breeds. Aerosol Foam, Wipeout is an Aerosol Foam. Sharp Shooter, I'm sorry, Sharp Shoot R Precision Incorporated. That's Sharp Shoot and then R, like you know, Toys R Us. Sharp Shoot R Precision Inc. Box 171. Payola Kansas or Piola Kansas how did you pronounce? I guess yeah Piola who you say payola pa o la Kansas six six zero seven one. That's the address guys and Seven eight five eight eight three four four four four four is the number to call to get hold of them That's seven eight five eight eight three four four four four four and that's for wipeout and painless and max. If you talk to them they'll explain to you the applications and usages for each of their cleaners, solvents, degreasers, and debriders. It depends on what you're in need of doing and what the mission is while you're either on the range or when you're back home off the range. So that's www.paulco.com. www.palucousa.com That's www.paulcousa.com and the phone number again is 785-883-4444. Again, that's 785-883-4444. That's about as easy to remember as you get. 785-883-4444. And that's in Paola, Kansas, 6-6-071. And I'll tell you what, wipe out painless and max. Sounds like you're either A, the road warrior, or Wipeout as in surfboarding. Anyway, the other thing here real quick, Classic Arms, I checked, guys, again, there was another email I got on this too. Classic Arms does not have FN FAL spare mags. They do have the G1s, STG58s, although they may have sold out yesterday or today. They have more coming in, they say. I would of course wait until we know we've got them in stock. then pick them up accordingly as they're available but classicarms.us classicarms.us they've also got some pretty good buys on 7.62x39 ammunition some they of course have different AK mags and AR mags right now and they've got a special deal done if you buy ammo you want to try to buy ammo cans they've got ammo cans stacked up and they really really really really want to make deals on them so one of the things they're doing is Rather than just shipping an ammo can, they've come up with accoutrement packages with bayonet, you know, frog, sling, cleaning kits, all kinds of stuff, all put together along with a bag pouch inside a 30 caliber British ammunition can for 308 762NATO. So that's another option if you're looking for ammo cans. These are in nice shape. We had some of these, oh the end of last year and the beginning of this year, Classic Arms.US has got a whole pile of them because they've been buying a lot of ammo, but they've been selling smaller increments so they haven't been sending the ammo cans down and they do have a pile of them laying there. So there's a great deal for you. That's a clever way to get rid of them, yeah. Yeah, so there's again the other option is, hey buy ammunition, put the ammunition in the ammo cans. There you go. Because it really would be nice if you're buying the 7.62x39 and you're buying lesser amounts. Guess what? You want to put it in something anyway, so why not put it in those 30 caliber cans? There you go. and that'll get it out of the weather and put it in a battlefield package right away. Most important if you're gonna leave it in there though, remark the outside of the can to identify what's in the can. 7.62x39 and then of course place of origin for the ammunition etc. That way everybody knows what it is before they pick it up. The big chunky things don't go in the short little things. You know what I mean? Wrong ammunition dude. Wow I don't know. Yeah that's right. Well we want to make sure you're right. Another example. Big chunky things you guys. That 30 caliber ammo can is big enough. It'll contain some of your smaller pieces of night vision. It'll also contain some of your smaller personal communication devices. You know, that also have chips in them. A lot of the night vision you guys is computer controlled now. It has its chip in it. That's why when you turn it on you don't hear that mechanical whine that you used to hear. When it was all done Well, that's why the devices are a lot smaller now too. But you know what? Putting your small radios or your small night vision in a metal container, isolating it inside, insulating it inside so that it's not touching any metal and it's not touching any metal with anything that would conduct electricity, you ground the case like you would a lightning rod or anything. And now you've got EMP protection for your small night vision, your personal communications, or other inky electrical devices. Now you can always do that with a 50 caliber can too. You could always do that with a garbage can if you wanted to. They have many, many, they serve many purposes. And I don't really know, again Don, if there's any other substitute for them, there's other products that are out there, but the steel ammo cans, still guys, are the most unique and useful inventory item for long-term storage and quick access. Because we did a video on that with regard to ammunition storage and also incorporated gas mask info in there too. But the big thing was ammunition storage for readily accessible a resource under a combat situation, you've got to be able to smack it open, grab what's in there and issue it out quickly or deploy it quickly. If you can't, it's defeating the purpose. Now it doesn't mean that the ham cans are a problem. I mean as long as you understand that it takes time to get into them, the ones that are sealed, there's a lot of variations on that. Remember a lot of guys have the post-World War II US hamtons and they literally are. They have a little key, you actually stroke around the outside and squiggle it up so it's a big ball of strip of metal and open up the can and wow instead of ham it's 7.62x51 NATO ammo, .308 or it's M1 carbine ammo or even .50 caliber ammo like a big coffee can being opened up for the first time. Ah, the smell of preservatives. Tastiness anyway the important thing there is that with the other cans that smell when you open up the Russian stuff or the Chinese stuff Smells like ammo. No, that's formaldehyde Most people don't realize it but that's actually what's used as an oxygen neutralizer. They take three or five drops of formaldehyde, drop it into the can as it's sealed, part of the mechanical process, and that kills pretty much all the oxygen inside. It also has a very unique smell when it's opened up. You're like, ah, ammunition. And it's like, yeah, that's ammunition. That's brass, that's steel, that's powder, and that's formaldehyde. there's the combination so long you know that you're doing fine don't breathe too deep for too long well i'm open another can dot and breathe that indeed uh... i'm open up another can and breathe it indeed uh... dot and then bring it I think it's a little bit of a problem. Yeah, it's like the formaldehyde that comes out of your new carpet. Yeah, I was going to say, it's like what it is, it's all those polymers they told you, you're going to kill ya, ya, ya! And they make canned new car smell, by the way. Think about that. Okay, if they make canned new car smell, what the hell's in that can? Oh, nobody asked that question, did they? Why? Because it probably came from China anyway, so what the hell, it killed all them first before it killed us. Anyway, you know, that's a new car smell and a can. Wow, all the polymers that your dad warned you about. And the EPA banned. That's probably what's missing now from the market. If somebody finally did a, oh, you've got to put an information label on that. Oh, hell no. If we did that, people would be suing us. Oh, I think we'll just quietly go out of business. Goodbye. You know, shh, there you go. And every once in a while you'll find a candidate on the shelf at a yard sale every once in a while. What does that tell you? Actually, I think you can still get it at Meyers. Oh! We have to find out where that came from and what it's made of. I wonder if there is an ingredients label. I've never bothered to look, but we'll have to check that out if they still have a new cardinal. The poisons and other poisons. Manticot, panther, and rats in California. With a little bracket around it is too numerous to mention, right? With little brackets, too numerous to mention. Exactly. Well anyway, that's the smell you got when you open up those Chinese and Hungarian and Eastern European ammo cans and the Russian stuff. They use a little bit of formaldehyde and they probably have some other stuff they've developed too, who knows what it is. But it'll work just fine for the time being and obviously work pretty well because when you open those cans up, we got a conversation about that going on in the chatroom by the way, we haven't missed that. But what's interesting about it is that guys That's why that ammo has lasted so long on the shelf and works so well when you pull the trigger. So we're looking pretty good there. Anyway, other things to consider with the ammo cans, guys, if you can collect all the components, bandoliers, cardboard inserts, stripper clips, any time that you can combat load your ammunition to prep it so that it's exactly as it was when it was issued by the Donative Destruction or another army, that is a plus. The one thing where I would repack ammo, some of you may run into still the 5,000 or 4,000 or 2,000 rounds. per super fabricated tin of 8mm Mauser ammo. It's still out there because they're selling it from J&G sales by the band Lear still. If you buy a full can, a big case can of that stuff, repack it into 30 caliber cans because all those stuff is in the bandoliers and it's already accordioned up and it's already packaged. You want to put it into a can that's more reliable and more efficient. 5,000 rounds or 4,000 rounds or 1,600 rounds in a big lump tin isn't exactly something that Mark can go run up and go, here, hand me that piano. You know what I mean? That's really what it's like guys. You run up and you grab it and the hemorrhoids are bulging. Okay, well that's not conducive to good health. So what you need to do is make sure that you got everything squared away accordingly by breaking it down into battlefield increments. Now, here's an example. A loaded standard 30 caliber can weighs 22 pounds. Now that'll be plus or minus maybe half a pound because if it depends on it as links and etcetera if there's other packing material stripper clips of any kind whatever The average weight for a 50 caliber can standard US military is 44 pounds now this can be linked Yeah, that's like that link. That's only a hundred rounds you guys you can pack 150 into loose into a 50 caliber can. So then you're looking at increasing to a degree or decreasing the weight accordingly depending upon how you've packed it. Another thing if pay attention when you open cans of fresh stuff, you'll notice that cardboard has been used and inserted in the can for a reason. Why? Well you're gonna throw that can around in the vehicle and you don't want to beat, there's two things you don't want to do, you don't want to beat the snot out of the can on the inside creating damage and you don't want to compress the bullet and seat it back in. to the case. So the cardboard was designed as an insulator slash buffer to prevent damage either way and to dampen the sound of the ammunition in the can. Remember, noise discipline is another issue, so it's something that needs to be taken into consideration. When you do use cardboard in an ammo can like that, Cut it to size, put it in the oven, leave it on low for a bit, and bake it a little. Now granted, if it's waxed, if it's like banana cardboard, you'll be dumping wax. You don't want to do that. But the reason we want to do this is remember that cardboard, like charcoal, has a tendency to pull moisture. If you're trying to do a good high quality load up of an ammo can and you're going to seal it to include even maybe finding some formaldehyde and putting a drop or two in the can because you plan on shutting it and leaving it for a decade, well when you put the cardboard in there, remember if you've been laying around like, I'm going to go get some cardboard from behind the IGA, Don. It's probably been outside for a little bit, guys. Even if it was only out for the day, there's moisture in the air and it pulls it. So what you want to do is cook it, just like you want to cook all of the other items to a certain degree. We're not talking about 500 degrees. We're not turning it into french fries. We want to push the moisture back out. That's why there are desiccant materials that are made. That's why in the lid of your 30 caliber can, anybody notice that there's a perforation point in the top of your can? Do you know what's in the can? On the top lid, if you flip it open and look inside, you'll find that there's a wafer of desiccant material underneath a piece of buffered metal. Oh! And that's designed to help. That's why those cans work so well. Well, we don't want to introduce more moisture and overwork our disacant because there may only be a little bit of eek left in it before it's finally done. And we can activate that in different ways too. Again, you can cook the lid. Remember, the lid comes off, but you've got to be careful. You can't overheat that because your rubber seal is located there. Now, the seal will come out if you're not careful. You don't want that. And the seal can be damaged by overheating it. So you've got to be cautious there, and that's where the balance is. You're better off simply adding other disacants There are pellet types, there are straw types. There's also, again, when I say straw, most of you may have seen these but may have forgotten about them. 50 count US Department of Defense military made desiccant straws that were designed for the .30 caliber barrels and the Browning machine guns, the M14 and the M1 Garand. These go inside the barrel and are designed to keep moisture from building up when the rifles are not in service. Now this is a short term and an intermediate support system to help protect the weapon when it's lubricated and it's going to be located in some travel bin or whatever from point A to point B. These are also little things you've got to watch for when you're opening up a brand new case of US weapons, Don, because all these wonderful trinkets, bought with your tax dollars, are inside the weapon. Okay? Wow. So you gotta check the barrel. This is why you don't just, it's not like Hollywood where you see the silhouette of the rifle in the padding with a magazine and it's like, or you know, they come into these armories and, wow look there's magazines in every rifle. Really? That's not like any armory I've ever been in. In fact, you'll be lucky to find the bolts in the same room. They're going to be probably in a separate chamber, in a separate sleeve, numbered to the rifle, and they're going to be completely locked up behind another armored door, inside another armored cabinet, inside a sub-cabinet for each of the armory rooms that you have rifles from. Oh, you didn't. Yeah, fine. Yeah, behind five layers of locks. But I don't think I have the right form! Oh, don't worry. That'll take another 15 hours to get back. Go, you get back at me when you got it, by the way. So that's the reality as opposed to the Hollywood version. Oh yeah, we're just gonna walk in the armory and they'll leave it out of the ammo pre-loaded so I won't have to figure out how to do that. I don't have to know how to load the weapon, do I? It'll just go off all on its own. Yeah, okay. Well, no, that's not how it works. So anyway. Point is a lot of storage systems out there that are available a lot of different things that you need to be up to speed on but the ammo cans Mimic what the donut of destruction slash the war department has already been doing for a long time Remember that our standard is the gold standard all the others are second best with the exception of maybe the Swiss, maybe the Finns, probably the Swedes, all the Surin the Norwegians. Those guys all do pretty good work. Okay? And the Brits on the case. I don't know, Dad. I'd say it used to be the gold standard. Yeah, now we're kind of like the brass standard. That's true. Everything we've got just about is made by China. By Kainé. That's right. So therein lies the rub. We're looking at old American standard, back when we knew what we were doing, before we expected everybody else to do it for us and nobody will. Oops! What happens when that takes place? Then you're screwed if you don't know what's going on. So the idea is use your mind. Use your first best weapon, your mind, to get the job done right. Now, we've got to be persnickety about this. We have to be focused. And one of the things goes, we go, Mark, you're being overly bearing on that. No. Over, like, anal retentive? No, I'm not. These are standards that we maintained, which is why you can open a 1954 can of ammo made at Lake City Arsenal. And guess what? every round goes off. Not only does every round go off, but every round goes off and consistently hits the target. Why? Because in every step there was a standard that was met and maintained by our people. the ammunition was made here the components were all made here all of the packing systems were perfected to produce a premium end result this is why the traitor Bill Clinton destroyed all of our M14s or most of them back when he when his regime was in place does anybody remember that why don't you check the stories out in fact we I had men that stood up and were crying in front of thousands they're like you don't understand the destruction they brought in a hundred eight cars of train cars of brand new never issued M14s 14s that were in strategic storage, guys that could have been here 200 years from now and they never would have broken down. You would never know that they've been in storage. They pulled them out of the wrappers, they pulled them out of the storage bins, out of the coffins, which are actually like photon torpedoes, what they look like, a little bit like. And what they did is then turn around and took the stocks off and whack, well in some cases, depending on the storage system, if they're in the photon torpedoes, the stocks are separate. So they just pulled the stocks and then they whacked the rifles into four or five parts and destroyed them. Now your tax dollars paid for those, there was no reason to destroy them, there was no need for them to be next. That was treason on the part of that piece of vile garbage slash debris that well he's still hanging around and so is his twit wife. So they're in this regime, so they're no different. Again guys we have the system, the concepts are laid down, we just have to apply it ourselves. We can't expect somebody else to do it. 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