July 21, 2010
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Mark Koernke discussed combat footage from the 1979 Sino-Vietnamese War, analyzing Chinese military equipment, tactics, and the use of laser weapons and chemical agents by both sides. He and caller Marcus Dunn from Georgia covered field maintenance of equipment, proper storage and rotation of water containers, sourcing glass bottles for long-term storage, and extensive discussion of camouflage techniques for weapons and gear, including paint selection, battle-damage concealment, and the importance of identifying friendly forces. The show also touched on preparedness, field clothing options, and references to military training programs like Ranger School.
- sino-vietnamese war 1979
- laser weapons
- chemical agents
- yellow rain
- camouflage
- field maintenance
- water storage
- preparedness
- military equipment
- ranger school
- special forces
- gas masks
- ak-47
- rhodesian camouflage
- friendly fire identification
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Real quick here if you go to our you of course now we have view flicks up there too right now guys so if you go to Liberty Tree Radio dot 4 mg dot com and you go to our link there you will find that we have a couple of different connective points there one is view flicks the other is still YouTube for videos. Now one of the interesting videos that I just dropped in as a favorite on our page is battlefield footage apparently from the Chinese side, very small unit formation, but it's supposed to be footage from the 1979 incursion into Vietnam. And this was where Communist China decided that Maybe they wanted to see if they could flex their muscles against Vietnam and maybe even roll right down the border and roll it up if they had their way. Didn't quite work the way they expected. Now, interestingly enough, this is after through Vietnam where both China and Communist Russia had provided a great deal of support material through the war to include safe zones and support technologies during the war for the Vietnamese with regard to rail and other mechanical support on the continent in Asia. This was of course very much confirmed by people who we have I've known personally who were involved in sorties As part of special warfare units into communist China. They didn't brag about it They don't talk about a whole lot, but it's something that definitely was going on after all the opportunity or in close proximity and deeper connoisseurs by SEAL forces for instance would go all the way up into the the very center of southern China both in and then coming back. Very interesting the deployment and the success and some failures that took place. However this footage is from 1979. Couple things I want you to pay attention to especially here on Weapons Wednesday. Number one is the whole idea that guys if you're outfitted and equipped, no matter how well you try to camouflage. I mean they've got camouflage uniforms, OD green, everything else and yet there's this like badge slash circle that really jumps out. Inside it is a triangle. Now some of you might remember that term, circle trigon. And this was this is actually an ID marker that was used for all the communist forces at one time or another strangely enough. Not only in Europe, not only in Asia but in Central America. You might recall this if you've looked at some of the combat forces down there. Circle Trigon. Circle with a triangle inside it. Now if you take a look at this video you'll notice that those markers are at key points on the soldiers. Why? Well it's part of the shoot no shoot program guys. That's why it's on the helmet, that's why it's on the shoulder, that's why it's even on their backpacks if you haven't noticed. The other thing is take note of the types of AKs being used, the types of weapons. Now that was the thing, they don't think it was question there is I had to ask how soon did they have the newer or I should say the variations on the AK-47 made by the Chinese. So take a look at the rifles, question those, and also take a look at the Defense rifle at the very end. I'm gonna ruin it to a degree. Take a look. There's only a very quick glimpse of a very unique firearm at the end of that video. Nothing super fancy. In fact, just a reverse. It was a very common weapon that was being generated by the PRC for their regular second-line militia forces. And what that is, is a mini AK, done in 7.62x25, is a submachine gun. The PLA People's Liberation Army, or the People's Army of the Republic of China, the forces on the ground didn't use it that extensively, but I'm sure it was field tested. I would think that they'd be smart enough to do that. But the logic behind this was that the average local defense force had the option of a submachine gun grade bullet in a 7.62x25 weapon that was identical to the regular AK but scaled down. What is the advantage? If you've learned to use one firearm, you've learned to use them all. So these would also make, as I've mentioned, many times great training rifles for units in general where range limitations may exist. Otherwise, AK Magazine clips in the same way, little AK action all the way around, pistol grip, fore grip. In some cases this particular submachine gun variant of the AK, truly a submachine gun, but a little longer barrel than a regular SMG. These things were built in all steel construction and both steel and wood and steel and plastic for the stock depending on what year they were made. And it was an experimentation of the part of the the Communist armies to come up with a solution and an economical one that would also assist in overall cross training so that his troops upgraded and got their AK. Here you go. There's your AK. Here you go. There's your AK. Here you go. Well, you'd have very little turnaround time to teach the men how to use what it is that they would be issued. So it's worth watching. It is not very long, only so many minutes long. There is a little bit of discussion in the middle, or forgive me, at the very beginning of the video. And this is on, if you go to LibertyTreeRadio.4, or forgive me, Liberty Tree Radio on YouTube. You can go to the link via LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com. And then from there, click on the YouTube Connect and you'll find it over in our favorites. It's the latest video. It's China versus Vietnam. 1979 and another thing is gas masks. Wait a minute, why are they wearing gas masks? Why were they putting gas masks on? Could that mean that they employed chemical agent? Hey, guess what? Here's nothing to remind everybody of. Contrary to what everybody thinks, the word yellow rain, do you all remember where that came from? We ain't talking a rock group, man. Whoa, dude. Purple haze, man, and yellow rain, dude. Remember yellow rain? So for all of the agreements and for all of the signatures and for all the promises we might recall that both in Afghanistan Cambodia and most notably in the border conflict between North well actually Vietnam because North and South Vietnam were absorbed and we're now Vietnam Vietnam in 1979 went into yet another war with Communist China, but wait Vietnam was communist. Yes, they were but they weren't quite getting along. And the reason is because of a four-letter word R-I-C-E which is why the Vietnam War was fought in general. Yep, the opium was also an issue. The Golden Triangle. Let's not forget that guys just like the Golden Opium Crescent that we're in right now. Once again, Dopeco working hard to make sure that Black Tar Opium is on the streets of America. It's why the border is wide open because after all Your government wants to make sure that black Tyropium floods the streets of this nation. The next crisis! How could it get here? I don't know! Maybe it was just driven across by truck and semi-truck. Straight across the border. With everybody smiling and waving. Oh, and let's not forget all the little mules. The slave trade running the dope trade in the process. Wow. Wait a minute. That's not good. But that's what Obama wants, and that's what Obama's handlers want, and that's why they're making sure the border stays wide open. So anyway, down there in Vietnam, same problem, same day, different day I should say, same problem, different day. In this case with regard to what happened with this particular situation, 79, three major offensives took place between communist China advancing upon Vietnam. The advantage that the Vietnamese had, kind of like Thermopylae or many other actions, is that guy's very narrow engagement path. There's not a whole lot of room to maneuver. The Chinese had a massive force but they had no place to go with it. I will also remind you of something that was pretty darn mean that the Vietnamese did to the Chinese. Now this means that the Russians cooperated with this. I know we have a caller if you hold for just a second. What is interesting about this guy is you remember what I touched on this years ago, laser casualties. In 1979, when the communist Chinese came across, they used mass wave assault. The Vietnamese, although they used mass wave assault too and they're at the different times, had refined certain technologies provided by the Russians and taking laser rangefinder systems, heavy gauge, big power, they raked the Chinese infantry with these lasers. They literally fanned the area going over the troops over time and again, time and again, very slowly. Virtually thousands, and this is not an exaggeration, virtually thousands and then tenth of thousands of individuals were in the hospitals of Communist China with unknown casualty conditions. They don't know how they could understand how they were injured. paralysis. They had speech impediment. They had total loss of memory. They had all kinds of other injuries. Well, the communist Chinese military medical sphere approached US doctors and asked, hey, can you help us? A complete contingent of US doctors was sent to Vietnam and they evaluated and deemed that the casualties were laser casualties. The laser hits the eye, goes down the optic nerve, hits the brain at one point or another. It's kind of like pinball, guys. It's no matter where the ball hits and everything from immediate paralysis or immediate death because everything shuts down. The heart, the lungs, and everything. There's no electricity, no tiki, no washing. It burns out the cell here or the packet here and it stops sending there. So these guys were untouched had no scars were not injured in any way of course one of the side effects who became obvious within a period of time anywhere from as little as two to three months to a couple of years was blindness That was the key indicator. Scar tissue on the on the collecting areas of the eye where the laser had actually hit and burned it destroyed the tissue and it took time for it to cloud out or fog up or eventually to destroy both the tissue on the cornea and to destroy the tissue behind it in the eye itself. So this is something that people like to try and forget about and again it's also in line when you look at this video. Look at the gas mask being worn! I would also point out it is a very interesting design gas mask to begin with. Have you ever seen it before? Oh, there's another one. So again, take a look at this go to LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com, punch in the link to YouTube or go to YouTube and punch in Liberty Tree Radio over in our favorites, the top icon. There are three that will be shown that are favorites and you have to punch a button to get them all. But the very latest one covers this particular piece of footage. A lot of information in it. They don't talk about the laser casualty production, guys. That's something that I'm jogging your memory about that we knew quite a bit about back in the day and the controlled media tried not to cover at all. Anyway, and chemical or chemical casualties too, but those are expected. And by the way, both Vietnam and Communist China deployed chemical agents. Now we have a caller. Who do we have? Hey, this is Marcus Dunn and Georgia. How you doing old man? Hey, Marcus. What's going on there? I'm not much. The first hour on Ustream and LPR Live 365, y'all were cutting in and out. Something was going on with the server, especially when you were talking about the employment of eTools and other stuff. Interesting. I just want to give you a heads up about that. The one thing that we rarely ever talk about Guys, if you've got barracks or housed troops and they're fresh in the field and you've been out there for a while, you're going to smell. And the fresh troops in the field, if they know what they're doing, they're going to find you by smell. So we have to keep ourselves clean. But the other thing is, when you come back from these exercises and all these other things, you need to empty your ruck out. Break open up your shelter half all these good things and you need to take your guard nose to them and wash things off Clean your e tools clean livers cage your multi-up You've got to take a clean stuff because if you don't you might bring back ticks spiders creepy crawlies and like I said You just need to go through and clean everything out and make sure it's good working order before you repack it Because like I said you will get garbage inside or what's the word? Detritus. Yeah that's it. Inside your rut and nooks and crannies and corners guys you're gonna get dirty and if you don't clean the dirt out of your gear your LBE is just gonna help it wear out quicker. That is that is another issue is that again one of the things is remember sand is an abrasive dirt is an abrasive It's gonna get in where all the operating components are of that piece of equipment And then you're not going to be happy with what you find later on in that threads will break down material will break down You don't want to have to replace this stuff it costs money, and there's no reason to if you do proper maintenance anyway You will still probably have to do maintenance because when you're walking in the field you're going to snag stuff, you're going to tick stuff, you're going to wear things in certain spots. Pay attention to that and then act accordingly and then do preventive maintenance before it becomes a significant problem. If you have damage in the field, make sure that you repair it. You can do temporary to keep it from ripping or shearing or spreading any farther. When you get back to a base camp, your mission is to do maintenance first before you do anything else. Certainly go top to bottom, make sure everything is replenished, refilled, then make sure if you can have anything else that needs to be repaired, if it has to be done by a support person, that it's directed at them immediately and that it's already in cycle to be repaired and then put back in the field. Because downtime is not acceptable. You're not going to be, chances are it will have to do without it if it's something that's significantly injured or incapacitated. you'll have to get used to not using it for a bit until such times it's repaired or replaced. So that's another reason for spares by the way. There's a basic rule with most supply and support and that's that for the troops in the field even with weapons, remember under a defense policy, you have about 10% on standby of whatever it is you have in service because things get shot, things get broken, things get run over, things get stepped on. You're falling back, you're regrouping or you're patrolling, whatever you're doing, something's going to get broken and you're going to need it when the time comes. If you're used to carrying it, remember you also have to reconfigure equipment. That creates a problem too that most people don't really think about until after they experience it. So again, good point. We'll do it again. We'll cover the eTools again maybe tonight. Well, again, we've got enough time. We'll maybe do that again this afternoon still. What else going on? How's the weather down there in Georgia? Well, we've had thunderstorms over the weekend and the last few days, except for yesterday and today. We might have some later tonight. We're running 96, 98, so it's like 100 to 104. It's quite warm, but like I said, I'm sweating through it, drinking lots of water. And guys, Mark is right. Now one thing, people don't think these are tools. A short shovel, whatever. yard sales, you pick up broken handles, you'd be surprised what you're going to need. And like I said, there ain't nothing worse than to pull out your e-tool or your sergeant's doing an inspection on you and you pull out a rusty, dirty, covered in Georgia clay e-tool that shouldn't have been rusted up. You should have hit it with some green spray paint or whatever to re-camel it. And there's no need for rust because rust means it's wearing out. And your life might depend on when your pistol goes empty, it might depend on what Mark calls the mayhem tool that you just might need it. And I agree with you Mark that I believe every vehicle should have at least one full-size shovel. Especially in every pickup truck at least one full-size shovel. You know guys who got your combat vans, carry a shovel, keep your stuff, check it. And it's hot weather, check your batteries. I just had my battery in my van, is acting stupid, so that's going to be changed out. So like I said, you know, there's all kinds of stuff you've got to check. Check your water supplies. It amazes me though Mark, how many people keep buying this crazy water in these plastic bottles? Why are people not getting burpees? and anything else that can filter water much cheaper than buying stupid, depending, garbage plastic bottles. Over. Well the only reason I can see or the one advantage I can see for that is the carry like I said and water bandoliers to add to my combat weight I could use those throwaway bottles, but my core equipment should be in stuff. That's going to be more resilient the little light stuff is cool until it breaks and then when it does you're like man what a mess and That's why US military canteens were built as heavy as they were the government doesn't like to spend money on the troops So if they could have made the things cheaper consider this they would have. Think about that. If those bottles do wear out, I know truckers that carry gallon milk jugs and they're complaining that the milk jugs are not lasting like they used to because they carry their well water with them. The judges are wearing out quicker. That's where you're almost going to have to go over to the soda bottle plastic because it's designed to take grossives whereas the milk cartons, although even the plastic pop cartons, on the one hand they have to handle soda but they're still all supposed to be biodegradable. And the problem with that is that the milk cartons used to have a lifespan of about eight years. I'm telling you that from personal experience. I date... That's true. Yeah, we date all the water containers, put them on the shelf, down in a dark place. No sunlight, dark place, cool, 55 to 58 degrees, constant. And we would find that the first time around when I was experimenting I was grabbing and moving water containers. And I grabbed this one one gallon milk container and I was going to move it to the other pile and I pulled and it came but only the handle part of the top of the gallon. And I'm looking at that and I'm looking at over where the shelf is and there's the other half with what's left of the water still in the lower part of that gallon container. Now it looked good. It was kind of like a sci-fi movie. Remember like in the Time Machine where they said, yes, we have books. and they look at the books and he starts to touch the pages and they all fall apart, remember? And then he grabs the book and he slaps it and all the books collapse into each other in dust, right? That's what this was like. So, and that was at the eight year mark, about eight years going on nine. He could have broken down in the eight or seven year mark, but since these things were sitting there, they didn't need to be touched. They were dated. I know exactly what day they came on the shelf because I used to mark by date, month, and year. So this is one of the things where the gallon jugs now, remember they want them to break down. People throw them out the window, they end up in the ditch. This way they're going to be able to take care of that problem and not have to worry about them sitting around and staring at you for a decade. And again, they're using a different chip. It's a garbage plastic. The only other question I'd have about that is, guys, if it's breaking down in the ditch, doesn't that mean it's probably already breaking down even with the milk in it? Ooh. We didn't think about that one, did ya? I did. Because if it's biodegradable, when does the clock start? Is there a timer on it? I don't think so. You see? Now the other thing is that the other clear, like say, plastic, this is designed to handle caustics, slash soda pop, because guys remember it is soda pop. Okay, well those bottles will last longer so that would be a consideration as shifting over to those or the really nice ones Marcus are the ones that are the bigger juice bottles that have that white plastic solid rim. up above that's separate casting. Now those are a little more industrial, they'll probably last a little bit longer but each one still has a finite line in service. So we need to find out what that line is and then pay attention accordingly and be prepared to cycle out material. The sad part about it is this, you can't keep the other ones around you didn't use and leave them on the shelf. They're already ticking apart just like the others are. So you have to replace as you're going if you're going to use the gallon jugs and you'll have to get fresh from the store, whatever you recycle from the juice or from the milk. The other option is to look at what I said a couple weeks ago here, wine bottles. Now for carrying, maybe not, but for storage on the shelf you can go to most of these restaurants or most places that are restaurant bars and they will, if you ask them, they'll save the bottles. You just got to be there to pick them up. If you don't go pick them up, they're not going to save them for you. They'll start throwing them out again. But if you're religious about this, you can get them with the cork. If they'll handle the wine and the cork is supposed to be there for six, eight, or ten years, I figure it'll do just fine with the water for however long you need to use it. So, and again, there are... Go ahead, go ahead. They come in 1 liter, 2 liter, 3 liter and 4 liter bottles. A 4 liter bottle is a pretty good sized bottle. And guys, if you see some of this cheap wine on the shelf, some people don't drink, but some of that cheap wine is good to marinate your meat in. Or you can buy the cheap wine to trade goods later. But those bottles, guys, and bark is right. When you see idiots, when you go monitor your dishes off where you live and you see a beer bottle, it's unless it's where somebody is getting money for it, save the beer bottle. It doesn't mean you're drinking. Take it in, sterilize the bottle and put them up. A beer bottle with a cork in it or any kind of cap you put to it or our is better than nothing and like I said a dark brown bottle is something you can store stuff in like medicines and whatever else because this is part of what it's going to take to have stuff for later and the other thing is if you need to dispense gasoline or other kind of flammables It's nice to have glass bottles to do it and not plastic, am I correct? Yep, as a matter of fact also again there was a discussion about that with medicinal's the other day brown glass and green glass to filter out the light are critical issues and we're not going to have enough of that stuff. We're going to have to improvise pretty quick so you need to look at that as an issue and a solution. Go ahead. Well I've got a website for that too. Guys if you need brown glass bottles Mario Gafaldi, or Gafaldi, the wearers name is, that does the silver lungs. That you can buy the silver generator that does the 10 or 20 parts per million ionic silver, which works really well. I've got one of the generators and I'm very impressed with it. When this flu stuff came around, I was giving out to everybody in my neighborhood and the church members and everybody got well. It's been good for other elements too. So we're going to cure all, but it helps in a lot of different infections. Anyway, Mario told me there's a website that's www.our favorite, one of our favorite weapons, sks-bottleks- they've got a real good deal on the bottles with the kids with, if you want the pipe pets, the truck stuff. out with. They got all different sizes and they got a bunch of other things. The SKS-bottle is his supplier and they're very good quality bottles. I've ordered some extra in the store from them and like I said they were very prompt, very courteous. Everything came in just like it's supposed to and that's a great website. Over. Very good. Well, and again, the big thing here is storage systems. We have a lot of things we're either going to be doing for medical or for other technical support where we're going to need proper containers to keep everything secure when the time comes. So we don't worry about it being compromised, breaking down because of light and or temperature. We have to secure it from both. And light, of course, if it's in a container, will, you know, toast up. Heat slash calories will build up. if it's direct sunlight, so that is a factor. Again, do a little research, experiment accordingly. Some of you have already been to Florida, wink, wink, nod, nod. If you've been to Florida, you know that the different containers would be awfully handy in the future. One of several sources is university supplies, slash property disposal. The other thing is Remember, watch for people getting rid of health food items or at least containers that the higher end health food stuff came in which are typically still brown glass. But again, resources such as brand new may be necessary or is preferred. If you're doing something, especially as food grade, this stuff is typically sterile. If not, you know, ultra clean. So it's not going to be a risk with regard to using it for food grade materials or for medicinal purposes. you know for storing material equipment there. Example is one things I think we're gonna do this year is mint oil. We've got lots of mint. Our mint has done exceptionally well but it's something that we go through a lot of and mint oil is a very high medicinal high priority item. We're gonna make sure that we have a quantity of that and it's a good experimental project this year. Gotta make sure I keep containers to put the stuff in or we'll do many good. So there are things where there are places where this will be a priority and come in very handy. We're switching out from the industrial pharmacy technology to being able to do what we can with herb, you know, herbology to get the job done, which is where they got their goodies from in the, in pharmacy land to begin with. I don't care what it is from Echinacea to Mint to any number of other items. Most of them are simple and easy. What else you got for us, Mark? Yeah, they got all the ideas from nature, brother. That's exactly right. Yeah. And what you said about the university system, every state like here in Georgia. These would go on their websites or the state sites. They're always going to be the adoption of surplus goods. Guys, there are much less telling us about stainless steel. The state of Georgia, through the educational system, it's amazing from the prisons and other places that they get rid of these big chunks of stainless steel. And other people must have caught on because the wife and I was buying it and using it for things. And now it's gotten a little more expensive because those people must have caught on to it. But there's a lot of stainless steel coming out of these institutions that you can get and use for a lot of nifty items. Over. Yep, very good. And again, any number of different projects. Stainless, whenever you can replace nuts, bolts, or screws, especially with machinery. Generators, vehicles, bodywork, any place where you can switch out to stainless stock, threaded stock. Try to do it because it will reduce your downtime. It's guaranteed you pretty well be able to break things free, disassemble and reassemble that much faster. So stainless is an option there and stainless steel sheeting, awfully handy for a lot of unique projects where you may want to put something and not have to rebuild it over and over again. Up here in Michigan we get a lot of equipment that can easily rust with the salt we have on the roads and because the high humidity levels that we have in this state. Stainless is a blessing and a surprise because durability most people aren't expecting it but wherever I can use it I will especially again nuts bolts and screws. You're in the middle of the winter it's about 40 below. Snap! Command, now of course you've got to go find a replacement and that snap might be something you don't want to have to work on, especially outside. So, stainless if at all possible. Weapons, it varies. There are some, for instance, high point carbine has some regular bolts that are actually in the system. If you can match those up to stainless, I think it would be a good thing. But you're going to have to be cautious and make sure that they're identical in both length, configuration, and stock type. That's the most critical thing there. What else Marcus, anything? We're pretty well set. Well, one other thing guys. Stock up on your cheap paint. Your browns and greens and greys, reds, stock up on your cheap paint. Even some black. Because when it comes time, when you're humping through all camoed up but your weapons is nice pretty shiny black gun, And anything black in nature is mostly in the vertical, not the horizontal. You're carrying your weapon in the horizontal. So you're going to be noticed, this thing moving through the woods, it's got this big thing sticking out in front of it that's nice and shiny and black. So, oh no, I don't want to paint on my weapon. Well, I tell you what. Would you rather your weapon be functional and useful and put some cheap paint on it so at least you can get into an area without being seen. Over. Exactly, the interesting thing is that it's like we've talked about with scratches. It's a $3,000 rifle, I can't scratch it. You're going to do more than scratch it if you carry it in the woods. So be prepared for that. But also, again, if you've got a beater grade rifle to begin with, which is what you're supposed to be looking at, field grade. You'll notice I mentioned field grade. We're not taking and using presentation weapons here, guys. They work, they work beautifully, but they're, again, feel grade. If not, they're going to be feel grade real quick here when we get into a fighting situation and subduing the overall silhouette is critical. Dollar stores have mixed paints. You got to be cautious there. What the cap says, it's probably in the color range, but you got to experiment to find out what that batch does. sometimes it's not a bad thing we've had some paints both in the blues and the greens that had some kind of other like strata of paint built into it didn't blend quite the way it was supposed to so actually had for instance like a blue with a little bit of a gray in it that modeled in and you know therefore certain types of camouflage it would work the same is true of the greens sometimes you get it where the paints don't seem to mix like they were blending two different paints or maybe they were in a dissimilar batch and you'll get two different shades depending on where it is that is being sprayed with the aerosol flopping around inside the can. These are not a bad thing when it comes to camouflage. If you get variations like that in the greens, the browns, the tans or whatever, isn't that actually what you do with the cloth? It's like three colored desert. Yeah, only in this case it's multi-color and it's designed again to just break up and create a dissimilar eye pattern that probably will blend in quite nicely. The other thing is if you want to junk out something. You know, people don't want to steal something if it looks like it's not quite new. I can see it's kind of like I don't remember Marcus remember the ad where the guy comes out and he's got the car and It looks like a clunker. It's got rust marks everything and he reaches down and he grabs the cloth and In reality, it's camouflaged the cars pristine underneath this drop cloth that has the rust painted on it and everything Well, I was gonna come to that. Yeah battle damage guys battle damage to include what something it already looks burned is a great way to conceal the fact that it's not. I would go to the point where, you know, do you remember, here's one, do you remember when Revel, Revel was the first one to do this, they were offering back after about the time of Vietnam, towards the end of Vietnam, the early 70s, they had combat models like the F4 and you could buy it where you would take certain parts and rather than building it to brand new factory spec, it had Vietnam combat damage. Remember those? Now, yeah, now the thing is, let's look at it this way. Let's say you've got a vehicle and you want to use it for reconnaissance. Well, you want to camouflage it, but sometimes, especially in a built-up area, camouflage is flame and ash and, hey, smoke damage. get my drift so what you have to do is have somebody might be creative and even if it's not an airbrush although an airbrush guy can do miracles you got somebody knows how to run an airbrush you'll swear to God the thing had been burned he'll detail it and you know like you want me to match that oh yeah that's a challenge and by the time he's done you couldn't tell the difference unless you walked up and tapped it a man who knows what they're doing with paint can mimic anything I mean anything guys. Can we look like a silk purse or a saucy or whichever you want and everything in between. So battle damage is a good option and something to consider even to the point where a throw over cloth that can be pinned into place that creates a very different image. Shot out glass, knocked out material, busted up creole cross structure. uh... in reality nothing's wrong with it at all you know even the old fake bullet holes something to consider that you know what somebody looks at it you know yeah we used to joke about that right but i'll tell you what if you look at enough vehicles like that people are going to be like man that's a piece of junk i don't know to go i'm not going to worry about that it's macked up and in reality walk up and go taint taint taint Tink, tink, wait a minute, those aren't holes. Yeah, but again, you'll walk by it, you'll think twice. You won't think twice about walking by it if you got it properly miffed for everybody, if you actually dress it up right. So that's another thing to think about and paint is you have to have the tools in the toolbox to begin with. a mix of paints, the dollar stores, oh by the way on that note something else that I noticed at some of our local dollar stores that they didn't have before and they've had a source on now. Work pants, not no work shirts but work pants. Interesting enough brand new never sized. In other words they've got a certain waist but unlimited length. Guys if you need uniforms in tans, in greens or in blacks or even in chocolate brown Those will work just fine for field clothing, especially for what fatigues were originally meant for. You're doing construction type work or work on vehicles or equipment. You may not necessarily and you certainly don't want to mess up your best gear. Well guess what? That's what this stuff is for. You can put it into your kit, leave it with the mechanics support vehicle or leave it with the armored vehicle or the truck that you're going to be working on. And when you're there you can either change it out, of course you can also use Mr. Coverall, that works fine. We use the Coveralls, the OD Green ones, Marcus, as the basis for the Gilly suits. In fact I've got two of them that are... Oh yeah. Yeah, they're kits on standby right now. I already did the painting on those. They have a mock tiger stripe that was done with spray paint. And the next step is stitching on the canvas for the elbows and the knees and for the belly and then all of it sitting there. It's actually somebody could be throwing this and they could finish it. It'd be something for them to do. You want a ghillie suit? Here it is. Got the burlap, got the colored burlap, Russian. Got a whole bunch of other camouflage stripping material. Got the netting and everything. Go to work. So, there's another consideration to it. And again, the paint comes in handy for blending in the background, blending in the environment. So, go ahead. And a point you just made is guys sewing kits. Yeah. With the heavy duty threads. So, your buttons on, pick up your LBE, your alls, your heavy duty needles with the large loops. Guys, you've got to have sewing kits. You just can't have a cleaning kit for your weapon and all that good stuff. You also need a sewing kit to do your repair. We didn't bring up earlier about the sewing kit, Mark. Very good. I do want to mention this one more time, and I've mentioned it several times on the air already, but Kamaby Keep. talking about colors and camouflage especially with a weapon system now here's the problem the in fact this happened with the Rhodesians and the South Africans they had one of the best camouflage patterns available and used it extensively and quite successfully their web gear their uniforms etc. However the forces they were facing detected them prematurely almost every time they went into the field initially when they were using the new kit. Upon interrogating prisoners they found out the very thing you brought up earlier Marcus, they found out that the way they were detecting the troops was by their black rifles carried horizontally, in other words perpendicular to the length of the body, and there are no natural black lines out there on the savannah or in the sagebrush conditions that they had. So they learned very quickly to break out the spray can and paint up the rifles and break up the lines. Okay, so that's something to keep in mind. And we got to spray your magazines too. Yep. Now, Kamaby Keep has the Rhodesian camouflage and they have it in large, extra large, and they've got it in 2X. They have the pants, they have the jackets, they have the hats, they have the shorts, and they're supposed to have a field jacket, a new combat field jacket too, that's more like the M65. What's really neat, all of this is pretty much stitched here by what I understand the cloth is made by the same contractor that did it for the Rhodesians back in the day. They're still making this pattern over in England. So the roll of cloth is being brought in from outside the US thousands of feet at a time. They're doing all the cutting here and the row camouflage which would be an excellent camouflage for the Arizona deployment. Two advantages number one it's a unique pattern that works well. Two It's a pattern that's not easily accessible. So if you have it, you'll know that it's one of your people that's wearing it. So there's an advantage to actually having say a squad or you know a whole unit Outfitted in the row pattern or any other particular camouflage pattern. It's shoot no shoot It's ID friend foe friend foe friend foe and this is something that we need to take into consideration On that note I will refer again to the video that I read that we brought up this morning And I'm talking about this afternoon a couple times Which is on our favorites on YouTube go to YouTube punch in Liberty Tree radio On the right side of the screen there will be favorites. The newest favorite is combat footage of some communist Chinese units on the border with Vietnam fighting in 1979 during the Third Indochina War. It was an embarrassment for the communist Chinese markets. They were frustrated. They had a larger military. They had all kinds of good equipment. But the Russians kind of pitched in on the side of the Vietnamese and a lot of casualties, a lot of problems took place. The Chinese did not anticipate and accordingly they had to deal with down the road an embarrassment. Good point here though when you watch this video, you're going to see a white circle. at different points on the gear. You're gonna find it on the helmet, you're gonna find it on the shoulder, you'll see it on their chest, you'll also see it on their backpacks. And I point this out because it's like, man, they got great camouflage, and then you got this big shoot me circle trying it on everything. Well, that's the whole idea, that in fact, you'll notice even put it on the guy's backs, well, that's because you wouldn't wanna shoot a friend in the wrong direction now, would you? Hey, he's one of the, no he's not. Yeah, see how that works. So check that video out. Also look at the gas mask variant. It is something you won't find anywhere available and it's interesting because it is a very unique design. It looks to be based upon the same concept as the M17 in that it has an internal filter system but it's only a single chipmunk jig on the left side. Now what this does do, interestingly enough, kind of like the M9 gas mask, what this does is it frees up the other cheek so that you can actually wear the gas mask, bring the weapon up to the shoulder, and sight through the gas mask lens. But the question I had to ask right away was, why would they be wearing the gas masks in the first place? Oh, that's because in the Third Indochina War, both the Vietnamese and the Communist Chinese employed chemical agents. Remember the term, yellow rain. Okay, so when people tell me, oh you don't need a gas mask, okay, well I'll tell you what, like I said guys, this is within living memory, it's not 100 years ago, because World War I is coming up on 100 years, we're looking at another, what? We got another four or five years in the beginning of World War, the 100th anniversary of the beginning of World War I is coming up here, 1914, four years away. Now, in the meantime, 1979, two major warring factions, two of the largest militaries of the day, communist China and Vietnam, which by the way, let's not forget, Vietnam was not ill-equipped. They had all that American equipment we left behind, remember? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. They had all those goodies, plus they had all the stuff they'd gotten from Czechoslovakia, Poland, Yugoslavia, Russia, Communist China itself, and they had the Russians. Castering Cambodia. Yeah. So they had all that stuff to face off against the Chinese with, and I guarantee that they used it. So this was a very interesting struggle. It's something like an order of battle to take a look at because the other part about this it appears that either A, the Chinese are in a defensive position and they're, you know, again taking cover with the gas mask or they're playing tunnel rat, a la the same thing we saw during the Vietnam War, and they're donning the gas mask so they can throw the chemical agent down into the tunnel and then go on down into the tunnel after whoever is there. Take a look at the video, check it out, you tell me what's going on. I think I got a good idea. But anyway, I'll give you a chance to see some of the equipment and some of what we've been talking about for years. No matter how hard we want to camouflage ourselves to a degree, too well concealed means that you might make mistakes. Friendly fire isn't. That's the most important thing to remember of this. Friendly fire isn't. I think I got another one about videos for you. You ever heard of Hulu? H-U-L-U? Yeah, that's the precursor to YouTube before YouTube became so commercial too. Go ahead. Now Hulu is owned by Viacom. Okay, that's right. That's right. Yeah. But Hulu, you can watch movies and TV shows on it. And there's one that's on Hulu right now called Ultimate Force. And it's about the SAS guys over in England. It's about a new show. It's an older show. But if you want to see how the Special Forces employs tactics, I was quite surprised and quite a bit of it, they were actually using real tactics that our Special Forces guys still use today. Well, I don't know if you're familiar with... That's an older show. I would think that when covered, did it cover their confidence and survival, escape and evasion course? A little bit. Because, I mean, they're alive. They actually take them out into parts of Scotland. One of the most interesting, I always thought because you try to explain to people with the ranger schools, like there is a confidence course that they use and it's not a built confidence course, they have ledges and cliffs. And one of the things that they have to do is leap from the edge of a cliff to a separate towering precipice that is a slightly lower but still so far out that you have to completely trust the mates, you know, the men that are with you when you do this. There is no way that you control this. your energy gets you there. But what was rather interesting is they have a similar drop, not a drop, not the Ranger drop, but they have similar elements of the mountain phase of the Ranger School where what they do is they force you to understand that it's a team effort and you have to cooperate with your teammates to get the job done or you won't survive. It's why, for instance, we will point out that it used to be in Ranger School, if you got injured you didn't graduate, guys. There were people who did not graduate, I'm because during the mountain phase he broke a leg, they let him heal back up and they let him try again and he injured himself a second time so he didn't get his ranger tab the first two cycles. He had to wait so long and go back in a third time but he couldn't recycle a third time. And again he got through the mountain phase knowing full well what the disaster scenario awaited. So it is one of the things to think about, very impressive if they have that in this series it would be rather interesting because It's one of those things where it demonstrates that you can do it. You look at it, you think there's no way in hell you're going to be willing to. And there are guys that do refuse. It's part of their calling out of the personnel involved. So it happens with every asset. In fact, the same thing happens with SEAL training and does happen with Special Forces training. There are specific elements where they want to test you to your extreme and they want to see if you're in that final breaking point. Are you going to follow through with it or can you or are you unable to overcome the barrier? And it's a mental barrier because the most important thing to remember, I mean, my attitude is this. If it's a training environment, even if I probably pass out, chances are somebody will pull me out of whatever I'm in. I hope. We hope. with the Ranger camp is outside of Full Wall Beach there in Okaloosa County. Oh yeah, yeah. In that swamp area about there, they've actually had them boys get in there and it's been the summertime guys and they freeze to death. Dive exposure. They get out there and get cold from exposure and get in that water and actually have died of exposure. This is where we've talked about the fact that guys it does not have to be winter in order for you to dive exposure a 30 degree temperature shift and one of the things what does water do it works as a radiator why do you think we put it in cars to cool them down Okay, so what happens is they get into the water and you've got a temperature above it, 77 degrees, you know at night it drops down. But the problem is, is that the core temperature below is being pulled because the water temperature is much cooler. You've got springs, you've got wells, you've got shaded areas and so you've got thermals. And these shifting processes pull the heat from the body and the guy, well, you just kind of pass on down to sleep and you don't wake back up. and some of natural springs is 48 to 50 degrees and the summertime was 56 to 58 degrees. When it's 9,500 degrees outside and you jump into 60 degree water, that's a serious shock to the body. That's why I was pointing out that we've got this exercise up north in the UP. They're going to be on Lake Superior and I know they're going to get in the water too. They've got a couple things they're going to be doing as part of the training exercise and it is never warm in Lake Superior ever. that water is still cold don't change much in temperature. In fact, there used to be, when I was younger, the fun thing was to try and swim in all five lakes in one day. And the way you did that is you started out the very end, the west end of Ontario, jumped in the water, swam around for a little bit, jump in the vehicle, everybody, of course, will be taking turns driving, then you get to some point on Lake Erie, over towards the Detroit end, jump in there, and then up the east side of the state of Michigan, over to Bay City, or over towards Saginaw, jump in the lake there that takes her like here on then you're running up over to the bridge over the bridge to Lake Superior anywhere along the coast there and then back in the car over the bridge again turn a sharp West, in other words, when you're coming south it'd be to the right, and then head over to Lake Michigan, over towards, like, say, Luddington or whatever, and or Traverse City, but Luddington's more fun. Traverse City's too stuck up. Now it's a little not quite as bad. They're all in depression, too, so everybody's starting to learn to love people again because they need the money, but it's rather interesting that, you know, that's, that's, you know how it is. That's the five-lake run, and you can do it! You really could, guys. It's a lot of fun, too, anyway. The important thing is you want to get in the water. You don't just touch your toes and run. You've got to actually get in and swim or you're not qualified. Sometimes you're like, we're going to do 100 yards. Up the coast. Arrrrr. You jump in, you swim, and get out again. But the water issue, especially like you said with the Ranger School, same thing. You got to watch it. Everybody. We're looking at deploying in the desert where during the day it can be the 90s and at night drop down into the 60s and 70s and that's a 20 to 30 degree shift in temperature. It's why what I've said many times before, guys, bend down there, serve down there, station down there. You want to make sure that you carry a field jacket. Make sure you got your field jacket liner. You can always take it out. Remember the nice thing about military stuff is it buttons and un-buttons. It opens and it blossoms and it breathes. You can do whatever you want to say blossom, in other words you can open it up, you can unsinch everything. You can also tighten everything up and seal everything shut. Remember you got back cuffs on the M65. Undo the Velcro, lay it over the back of the hand. There's a reason it's there to help put another insular layer over top of stuff. You've got cinch downs around the waist and at the base of the coat. All stuff to help make the coat work for you. Well I'll tell you what Marcus, we're at the top just about here. We got Spike coming up next hour. Don't watch your clothes with me as long as you're here sir. We have Craig coming up next hour. Who? Craig, forbidden knowledge. 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