Mark Koernke and caller Don discussed martial arts philosophy, sword fighting techniques, and their application to militia preparedness and combat training. The conversation covered footwork, positioning, and the principle of staying behind one's weapon for defensive advantage. They then shifted to firearms training, comparing rifle systems (M16, M4, M14, and .50 caliber weapons), debating the practical weight and effectiveness of modern tactical configurations versus traditional battle rifles. The discussion emphasized the importance of training under realistic conditions, the value of airsoft and blank-fire exercises for developing muscle memory, and the strategic deployment of designated marksmen and heavy riflemen in combined-arms infantry formations.
Live 365. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three cornered hat and speaking low to me he said, we've fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations this legacy we gave. In this the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. The tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost. You're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent. Although you have no voice in saying how the money is spent, your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press, and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS. Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold. You trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled. You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame. You've taken Satan's number. You've traded in your name. You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm. And keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. and your daughters visit doctors so their children and people, your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you will fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? Oh, sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to torture freedom burning bright. As Iowoki vanished in the mist from whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each God given right we only watch him tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free? Ladies and gentlemen, this is the afternoon intelligence report. I'm Mark Kornke one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories Central, West, Southeast and North. Well ladies and gentlemen you're listening to us on LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com, pbn.4mg.com, and we are live 365 then go to Liberty Tree Radio. We're also on AM&FM micro stations, CB base stations, and ultra net technologies both east and west of the Mississippi along with southern and central Alaska. We are on the Hallmark Network on the eastern seaboard from the top of Hey, my teleprompter. I don't have a teleprompter. I don't feel official without a teleprompter. I guess I'll continue anyway. What the hell? I'm sorry, I would be the guy running the government. He's like that. Brain goes off whenever the electricity goes off. Sorry. Anyway, both east and west of the Mississippi, along with southern and central Alaska. Wait a minute, he's not running the country anyway. He's just a meat puppet. 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Then across like the Hulk Leaping across the big muddy the Mississippi headed over there towards the Blue Ridge in the Smokies where the Restaurant crews the grandma teams and the okay teams are building up the Golden Spike project the competition continues well done today's date is sir Well mark today is the fort you guys ought to because there goes one in the chamber the flight to battery the magazine is in the well it is one day the perimeter is now we can offer equal opportunity coercive force non army with now we can offer equal opportunity coercive force there we go i know that the pretty mother of my wanted to cover this morning i'll be doing but will be with you in a little while so bear with me you know on this web to literally and i'm not i do not just about this fit and argue for an hour about Wait a minute, was it as a dove? No, I believe it was like a dove. And you know what they're doing? They're arguing one description of one described by two different apostles. Well, he came down like a dove or he came down as a dove. And the arguments that come from that, just those trying to interpret those few, spirited. Now we could go on and talk about what. And there are even some close to me say, well, you need to ponder that statement. on. You need to think on that real hard because that really isn't what he meant. I look at them and I try to tell them about their sacrifice. Some of them grasp it over time and some of them still say, I very well have died. I'm not going to dwell on that. But when he said, if you don't have a least serious... Now, there's another thing that the scripture... I heard this this morning and I haven't heard this in a long time. But you know what? I think I said it at the very last at the bottom of the the hour this morning. This is scripture. Scripture says you cannot raise a good heart with a bad seed. Now you wonder how I'm going to... Where are you going with that, Don? Mark, you've said many times that we need to not study the ways of our enemies so closely that we become like them. But there's another old thing, and that's an old adage. I know that's not a Mark original. I know that. I don't discredit you at all. You know what I'm saying. That goes back to older than you and me put together, partner. Through the ages. Through the ages. Yes. And there are a few others. But you guys, you know, I bet on this. And I stand on this like a rock. You cannot raise a good heart with a bad seed. We've talked about the Milk Toast Christians, and I'm not going to go on and on about the Milk Toast Christians. those that would pay attention to their milk toast preacher who is most certainly not a shepherd looking out for his flock. Because we've talked about the Black Brigades during the American Revolution, preachers who led their flocks off to defend their freedom. And I'm not going to dwell on that. But you know what? They were raised. Many of them, and we've discussed this before, in particular in the northern and even in the southern places, they were kind of raised on the Indian wars. There was representation of church across the nation, wasn't there? It wasn't very long after the American Revolution we went to the little blue book, The Primer, that taught American schoolchildren until about just after they instituted income taxes and they were pretty much cleaned out by 1933. But I'm getting a little bit off course here because you cannot raise a good heart with a bad seed. It was mentioned to me, and you might wonder why I'm going on in this, it was mentioned to me the other day, Mark, who from my Lex, everybody has to have a Lex Luthor. But it was mentioned to me the other day that Taiwan and Japan and some of the other almost free nations that surround China One of the main reasons why they fear China markets and understand or look at the unpredictability of China is because China has no core belief system other than what one might call man as God, the communist system. With that in mind, it becomes unpredictable. This was voiced to me rather recently, but it's something that is a common thought in the people who walk around, the Japanese people, who have a great history of belief, a warrior belief, no doubt. We've talked about that on the Bushido way and the samurai. We've talked about that. I'm not going to go there. But the Taiwanese are One of the main reasons why they fled the land, because they were a great Christian people. They knew what the communists were going to do to them. They loved their freedom. There are a number of reasons, but they were a great Christian people. That's one of the reasons why they left the mainland. Again, I reinforce that. If your opt force doesn't have a good belief system other than themselves and what they've been told or things like if you want a wife, you're going to have to go to America and take one. Well, you can't really call that the good speech, can you? And I know we've got to call her, but I'd ask you to be patient for a while, because I'm kind of on a roll here and I don't want to stop, okay? I mean, unless California's fallen into the sea or Florida has sank. Now, there's another thing I want to kind of mix in with this here, because I want to go back to the sword. Now, in, you know, In basic martial arts, a lot of people are in ancient history, even. You don't just pick up a sword and the master tells you, do this, do that. Many times you're given a stick and then you're given something that is what appears to be like woven together bamboo. People beat the snot out of each other. There are other words you can put there with those. In body armor, even ancient body armor, pieces and hunks of wood and leather. It's been practiced for a good long time, but that was what one might call survivable training. That's why that was done. It brought a bit of realism to sword fighting. And we can look at other, even European, sword fighting. There was, well, some types of training. If you look at a staff, what was that guy Robin Hood's buddy walked around with a tall, with a big long stick, a staff? When you master the staff, when you get pretty good at the staff, you don't have to master it. It's been said some arts take a lifetime to master. But when you get pretty good at it, what do you got going on? It's a quarter staff bow. A staff bow, sure. A quarter staff bow. Sure. Thank you very much. But when you get pretty good at that, it's not too hard to change to an edged weapon, you know, a sword. You can well imagine some samurai a hundred or seven hundred years ago handing his little toddler son a short little blade, a katana, you know, or even Even maybe as he gets a little bigger, you might put that... People think about Japanese blades and the katana as everything. We've been sold that because of a motorcycle name. There's a panto, a little short blade, like a bayonet-sized blade. A katana is a medium-sized fighting sword. I think there's a longer sword. I think it's called a habusi or a habusa or something like that. But that's a long fighting Japanese sword. But that's not something You wouldn't have in your hand if you were going to a proper fighting school long before you had a wooden staff or a bow or a, what was that, a chempo staff, a chempo sword in your hand. So you're trying to start from a seed there, and you're trying to build a warrior. I know I'm using a martial art from a completely different continent. We could come over here, but I want to stay with that sword, because if you don't have a sword, you should trade your cloak for one. Now one of the basics in edged weapon long, sword fighting, and even fighting with a staff is, your opponent cannot hurt you. Your opponent cannot attack you with his weapon as long as, and I'm going to stick with sword here, as long as you are behind the sword. Now that might seem kind of goofy, you know, all you got is a skinny little blade, you know, but as long as you're behind the sword, no matter what your opponent does with his sword, you will be invincible. He cannot, he can attack you, but he cannot succeed. in his attacks as long as you were behind the sword. And you're going to hear that again, but you know what? There's many different ways to do that. You can move the sword. You can move your feet. You know, we've talked about that. We've talked about an army with no legs. And you know, certainly if you're a sword fighter and you want to do that sitting in a chair, you're going to lose. I'm going to take that a step farther because you know a lot of people when they think about sword fighting mark they think about something very limited much like something inside the 18 or 20 or even 24 by 24 square something very limited in boxing they might think of fencing and you know fencing there's a there's kind of a we've talked about this no one fights on top of a fence and fencing is a very limited way to judge a contest not a mortal contest between two men But you look at the advances and you look at the try, you know, sometimes when you're stepping back you're trying to avoid your opponent's charges, but sometimes as you step back you try to reinforce your position so that you are ready as he lands, right? Now that's just working in a straight line. Now, and you know, here's another thing to be... A modern fencer in the Olympics, Mark, you know this, he works on a mat that literally connects him to the floor, this, that and the other thing, but it either by itself is electronically monitored or he is connected to a tether that monitors the tip of his opponent when it touches. In French, that's touche. That's very limited. And you know what? The reason why they keep... And this is a contest, remember? The reason why they keep those two men moving back and forth, that is, as soon as one man chose to attack truly from the side, there's a French word for it that's used in chess. In passing is the translation. Well, that's illegal in fencing on the mat because, well, why? You might score a hit when the judge might not be able to see from that particular angle. So this is why fencing is all done literally on the top of a fence or in a straight line so that it can be judged more purely but removed from a truly martial art. It imitates there thereby very much, doesn't it? It looks like they are sword fighting. but it's very limited and it's not so much limited as it is limited by its linear action. Okay? So we can go in a lot of different ways. There's a seed being planted there, but the guy who wants to fight with a sword in a straight line, as soon as someone steps, if someone were rushing toward me in a straight line with their sword or their spear, and my feet are situated in such a way that I just move the front one and swing it behind me to the point that I'm just out of the path of the spirit tip or the sword and I counter him as he goes by and I bisect him one way or another. Well, there's a whole different thing that can be read into that. There's commitment, there's over-commitment, there's confidence in what you're going to do. There's a whole lot of things that can be read into that, but you know, it's like watching the matador as the bull runs toward him and he simply steps out of the way. simply steps out of the way. Now, we're going to talk about footwork a little bit, because we've talked about what happens to an army with no legs. And we can look at Waco, and Mark has even offered up the thought that had they sent out aggressive patrols, they could have basically won. They could have basically had won it once it had become this, that, or the other situation. And had they wanted to, they could have dropped every rotary winged aircraft that was deployed against them. So let's use Waco as an example of an army with no legs. If you choose to stay in one place long enough, your opponent will mass enough force until he is certain of his victory and then he will move on you. We could talk about the Alamo. There's another great historic example in that. I don't have to elaborate any more on that, do I? So if you want to try a sword fight from sitting in a chair, you're not going to be real successful at it. Now we're going to talk about that footwork. Because you know what? When we talk about footwork, there's some old scripture about standing on the rock. I know that. When you learn to move out of the way of that oncoming bull, I use that as an example, but in Aikido and in some certain trades or old venues of sword fighting, you hardly lift your feet from the floor. Your foot sweeps behind you and we've addressed this when we talk about moving in the dark. Your foot sweeps forward. It doesn't lift up and it doesn't come down unless, well, you have to step over a twig or you're trying to be quiet in that direction. But when you're trying to keep a target under your gun, you don't look at your feet, do you? So your foot is going to either inch forward, feeling with your toe, where, you know, I know there's ground under me, I know there's not a bear trap or a case scenario, and I'm getting a little off track here. But when that foot sweeps, particularly like if you're stepping out of the way and you're moving your body backwards, and that back foot is what was your front foot, now becomes your back foot, and you're out of the path of that on rushing train, bowler, guy with the bayonet on the end of his gun. Well, you want to keep that foot on the floor so that you know when it comes to a stop. It's just sweeping across the floor, a tenth of a pound of touch to it. So you know that when you stop, there is footing there. You don't have to worry about that. You do not want to have to look at your feet. Now that's kind of keeping your feet on the ground, so to speak. Now there's another old adage, I don't know if it's in the Bible, but you've heard of that, feet on the ground and head in the clouds. You've heard that before, that we need to keep our feet on the ground, but that head in the clouds, in this instance, I want to call that our feet on the ground so that we can stand and fight our head in the clouds so that we're connected with God and the fight is right. Now I'm going to elaborate on that a little bit, but you know, when you might think that, Let's go back to that fighting on a rock surface because you can stand on that rock, can't you? I'm being a little bit metaphorical here. We talked about getting up from a fall here a little while ago. You know how much energy you expend when you're running across sand that doesn't make you go forward compared to moving across that smooth surface like a rock? And you know how much energy your opponent could absorb if you were to... There's a particular throw in Aikido and Hatkido and others that is called in Aikido, it's called an all-direction throw mark. And you learn how to throw your opponent. in a number of different ways from a first, second, third control. But an all-direction throw can be brought from most of those, but you don't want to try to train with an all-direction throw other than try to the beginnings of. Because it is a throw that your opponent cannot control in his fall. You can put your opponent in such a way that you throw him in an all-direction throw and he has no choice but to land going straight to the ground on his head. And that's going to really, really hurt when you're fighting on the rock, isn't it? And if you're fighting on the sand, well, he might just roll out of it. He might not get away, but see the difference there? So you want to stand on the rock. You want to build the good seat here. And that's a metaphor, isn't it? Because I think that comes from scripture. I really do. Now, we're going to close this out in just a minute. Mark, I don't want to bore you, but you think about that. Try fighting in the sand, you guys. There's something else I want to offer up here, and this is biblical too, because people beat the heck out of General George Washington. Why, he never won a battle. And why the commies say, well, he was the richest man in America, and that's why he created it. Well, you know what? He was. And I didn't know this for a little while. But he was the richest man in America at the time of the America. He owned more land. He owned this. He was the richest man in America. Imagine today if we had the richest man in America behind us how free we could be. So you can't kick that man for being rich. But you know what? Another thing about George Washington, he went up against some highly trained generals. I'm certain you would agree with me with that, Mark. Some generals that were kind of experienced too. Some of the best on the planet. The best on the planet. Now again, they were very smart men, but you know what? George Washington had the wisdom. Well, I'm going to tell you about that in a second. Because you know what we talk about when he got in the boats and went across the Delaware there and ate, run off the Hessians and ate their dinner, their vittles. We've talked about that before. And you know, that's legend. That's not legend. That's history. That's the chisens there. But it is so deep in American history to become legend. Now there were some pretty smart generals that kind of left those Hessians alone with a few Englishmen. They were smart, but they weren't wise. But you know what? I think it went something like this. The British came in on the other side of the river and they wanted to cross the river and they were going to fight, but well, they didn't want to cross the river at night. Now here's the difference between being smart and having the wisdom. Because you know what, and you've heard this before, maybe you don't recognize it, maybe you were never told this story, but it was the wise general that set a bunch of campfires and had left a number of men there to make noise and sound like they were building revements and gun placements and keep clanging them shovels together. Ralph, okay Frank, we're going to fool them with tonight. We're going to fix them red coats and that's what happened because the generals Smart, though they were, stood across the river, saying, Bring us all the boats you can there, mate! Or what would it be? Charles? And we'll cross the river in the morrow when the morning came. The generals saw that all those campfires that were supposed to be for all the rebels over there were just decoys. And you know what? With the wisdom of Gideon. George Washington marched north and kicked some more. Good seed planted there. going to mount farther and farther. Again, protracted defense, something that works, especially in a situation where you're limited in resources. Or, again, the bad guys have unlimited resources. You have to bite, nip, tuck wherever you can and be willing to fire. And then what's that of the term? Oh, maneuver. Fire and maneuver. That's the key here. Go ahead. You're right, Mark. I'll finish with this thought. There might be some that I could have invoked some other thoughts along the way. It kind of fell by the wayside. But I did want to say this. Because on occasion you'll hear that old spiritual, and I know it comes out of the South. I know that there are some people that ain't going to like it. But you know what? It goes something like down by the riverside. And you know what? There's a portion in there that says, ain't going to study war no more. But you know what? The whole of that is after you've crossed over. Because many times, as you've said, Mark, what was it he said almost exactly last? Hold. Hold until I return. And before that, you know what he said? If you don't have a sword, you better, oh, you should trade your cloak for one. When I was starting to talk about a sword, I wanted to interject another thought. I'm glad I went back to that. I'll be quiet in just a moment, Mark. Maybe we still have a caller. He's a very patient man. You can read about swords, even into revelations. There are those that say, well, that can't happen because the leader of the world is supposed to be struck in the head with a sword. I'll tell you what. When John was shown the future. Do you think that he had ever seen what one might call an AR-15, an M16, any sort of long gun? And had he been shown an attack like that, how else would he be able to describe it? But he knew that the demon was struck with a weapon. What else could he? Oh, that was an arm of light. He couldn't tell you what it was other than to know what it was a weapon and say he saw someone struck in the head with a sword. So again, some things are open to interpretation and that's my little interpretation of that. And you know what? If you do not have a sword, trade your cloak for one. And I thank you for that time, Mark. Thank you. God bless you. I'll be quiet now. That's why it's Weapons Wednesday, by the way. Real quick, before we go any farther, do we have a caller on standby? Who do we have? Uh oh, we just have a patient listener. Oh, there we go. I hear a noise. Go ahead. Yeah, this is Don, but you guys know a lot better than I could do, so I just keep listening. Okay, Don. We have a patient listener, that's okay. Well, one of the things to remember, especially about skill. something that we've talked about is levels and steps in training to get us where we need to be. Now I don't have a problem people training with a sword to be quite honest because everything, any education, any development of your physical motor skills are going to come in handy at some point in time. It may not be a sword in your hand but it may be a nice piece of steel rod that you're going to have to serve and use the same way. So the concept, understanding the energy applied, understanding how the body has to interact, how the mind has to think advance, all of these will lead to developing greater skill. And that motor skill is going to be passed on and overlap into all of the other systems that we have done from being forced in a situation where you were caught unawares, taking a person with your hands, and putting him down in such a way that his weapons become yours. That's something that we work at constantly, but we don't plan on that being our first choice, do we Don? Oh, you're right. But even the thought that once you learn how to lever someone or hack someone very deeply with a sword, more than one marine officer was literally almost in a couple work, cleaved into on Iwo Jima and on Okinawa. I'm talking from stem to stern, from clavicle to the bottom of their pelvis, when that was a master. swordsman who would do something like that. But before you get even to there, and when you learn how to work a sword with leverage, you can grab someone's forearm with both hands and work it like a sword and take them to the ground. So working with a sword, you can work real good cardio and vascular, cardio, vascular, and footwork and learn to move. Learn to move smoothly, learn to move, and I'll be quiet in just a second, but learn to move without looking at your feet. That is so important. Learn to control your breath. That is so important. I yield the floor to you, Mark. Now we move this up the scale towards the other weapon systems, you know, the one that, oh, maybe it wasn't referred to in the Bible, but the weapon of choice of the day is a lead pellet firing device that projects the energy that you can generate with it out to a set distance. And this is where proficiency is critical. Also, proficiency under the conditions that you will probably fight or that you plan on fighting on a regular basis. So for us in the in the militia, we don't have any downtime on the range. You might notice that whenever militia units go out to train, if there's a scheduled event and it's snowing, that event is never canceled unless the roads were absolutely impassable and there's no way to tell the difference between the rolling terrain across the, you know, the bleak back 40 and your road out front. The ranges are open, the activity is going to continue be it rain, snow, sunshine, gray, matte and barely able to see your fingers that you know beyond the end of your nose. It makes no difference. There's a reason. Training under all of those conditions prepares you mentally and physically for what it is you're going to be dealing with in the future. and proficiency, proficiency, proficiency, developing skill. Now, I'm... I want to make sure that we keep tapping on this once in a while because I know Mike mentioned that, you know, for instance, Airsoft being used for training, that they are kind of stepping away from that and going back to blanks because they didn't want people to close range. I understand that. In fact, the very thing that they talk about is something we discussed with paintball guns years ago. However, remember that as long as you understand the limitations of each of the training systems, even if you're using it in the field like that, that you still can gain a great deal of experience moving fire teams, moving squads. That's even the purpose behind Blank Fire guys is to give you the background noise. The only thing that's missing is the blood, the guts and the gore because obviously as long as you've done anything right with a blank, unless you're falling on it, uh... you know calling in the muzzle somebody's weapon you shouldn't have to worry about being hurt however you're gonna get the noise the flash uh... you get a response if you pull the trigger the weapons not loaded there is no response so that's a plus will airsoft does the salt that rifle cracked past your ear right here a lot closer to reality that's right So the big thing here is again, airsoft is something that is going to give you a lot of range time. Now how much money you spend on airsoft is up to you guys. You can buy airsoft weapons that virtually are impossible to tell the difference between the original and the duplicate until you're literally taking the thing apart. There are, you know, metal airsofts that have all the components where they're supposed to be. The specs are, if there are variations on the specs, they're really of little or no difference with regard to the physical training aspect of that weapon. And I cannot emphasize enough, I mean, done. I'm seeing MAG-58s, Browning Machine guns, BARs, you name it, in airsofts so that you literally, the weapons that you may never have thought you were going to handle. In other words, There's a lot of BAR's out there. People don't realize how many BAR's are running around in the woods waiting. I ain't talking the civilian rifle. I'm talking about the old 1918 Browning and whatever configuration that your grandpa and your dad, in some cases, or your great grandpa, carried World War I all the way up to your dad, maybe even the early days of Vietnam or Korea. It was still out there in the beginning of Vietnam. The B.A.R. wasn't dumped and Special Forces used the B.A.R. in the early days and even in the later days quite extensively. It was a generic neutral firearm. There were so many in service, it had been around for 30-40 years in general issue to the point where everybody had them. So you couldn't blame any particular country. Oh, that was an American gun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's about 50 countries that have them and every one of them sold them to somebody else and bought them back and sold them to somebody else again. But there's an example. You can run out there and an Airsoft BAR will teach you how to do everything you've got to do with a normal BAR. The same is true with a MAG58. The same is true with all the... there's an M60s, Don. M60s, M60A1, M60A2s. Every variation on that you can imagine. So you get a chance to actually, you know, physically experience the use of the weapon. Its hindrances, its advantages, its uniqueness. This is critical when it comes time to pick the real thing up and half the battle is muscle memory. We've talked about this. You're going to be in the field here if you're going down Arizona. It's going to be hot. Things are going to get uncomfortable. You're going to find that there are things that happen to your body when carrying weapons that you didn't like. let me point something out and this is here's an example something i have to kind of laugh about because don you've seen how much gobbledygook were put on the a hours now guys i know that it's all stuff that's cool and it works to a degree but what was the comfort of the end up like a candy store right well you there's two problems here now the very argument i had this comment was made the other day here well the m one grand was a heavy rifle or the m fourteen was a heavy rifle and i'm thinking okay how much of the grand way how much did the M14 weigh? Yeah, now here's the thing. We shaved off weight on the AR15, the M16, you know, A1 and A2, and then the CAR15, which is lighter still, by knocking down the barrel, lightening up with plastic, and this and that and the other. But then we got this idea. We went too light with the barrel so we need to make it heavier. I wonder how much extra weight you added there. We then decided that we need to change the grips and we needed better heat shields. I wonder how much weight we added there. We then decided that we needed to add something that had illumination with a battery attached and with a little finger string so that it can, you know, a little tab, you know, push tab, so we can illuminate a target with white light. But then we also... My favorite is the forward down grip. Yeah, there we go. Then we also have the vertical grip. Now we have to screw that on to the end of the rifle. Actually beyond the receiver. It's not my favorite. I was being sarcastic. I know, I know. But then we're adding optics. Oh wait a minute, let's not just add any optics. We've got uniqueness but also weight dependent entirely. Now we try to keep it lightweight. but we still keep adding two ounces or a half pound here, two ounces or a half pound there. Now, I want you to take that totally gobbly-gooked up and let's not forget third generation night vision and let's put that on the rifle too because a lot of times now down there carrying it right there with everything and they don't take it off. Right? Yup. Yup. So I may have a Kar-15 type rifle, but I got an H-bar, heavy shielding because of the nature of the amount of ammunition I'm gonna burn through the barrel, the fact that I'm bringing the cyclic right up and blah blah blah blah. By the time I'm done, do you think I passed the weight of that M14? Oh yeah. Oh I know I am. As a matter of fact, let's not forget now that, oh if I really want to, not granted, I'm getting some firepower if I do this, but either A, I got a 30 round mag in the weapon, but what's the most common next little trick that everybody tries to pull? Oh wait a minute. They double tape them or clamp them together. There we go. So let's double the weight of the magazine right off the bat or Now let's not forget the breasts of doom. I could use the other term, but I won't, but we're going to be polite here. The breasts of doom, the betamags, guys. So how much is a betamag way again? Oh, wait a minute. That's right. Loaded, that's got a lot of ammunition in it, and it's got a little more girth and weight and working parts. It's got little breast pins there. And so we start adding pounds. We don't talk in ounces anymore. We start looking at pounds. So the very argument that I heard that was the whole reason that we just had to get rid of the 308 rifle with greater range was because of our you know, eight and a half pound to nine pound battle weight. We dropped the rifle down with the M16A1 and A2 to seven pounds to seven and a half pounds depending upon what size mag and other goodies and then We decided, oh, well, we're gonna shave it down by doing this. We're gonna make it look really cool. All the cool guys, and this is really where this came from, by the way, all the cool guys in all the movies carry a Car-15. We need everybody to have cool weapons because we've already implanted this through 20 years of Hollywood propaganda. Although the problem that everybody didn't want to know about is that when you go to the Kar-15 you knock down your weapons range by a hundred yards because with the shorter barrel you're losing muzzle velocity. Now we know this before we use it. I've used Kar-15s, I've used M16s in all variations. Hey, it's a great rifle, love that piece of junk, and because it is a neat piece of junk, okay? But the very arguments that are always used are completely moot and irrelevant. I challenge it if you take an all-tinker toyed up M4 type rifle and you put it on the scale, I'm gonna ask what is she weighing at? And the fighter in this corner weighing 11 pounds and 16, wait a minute, that'd be 12 pounds, 11 pounds and 11 ounces. That's right, it's the M4 with more gobbledygook. And let's not forget that I'm not necessarily putting all the goodies on the weapon that we talked about. We might not have the breasts of doom, we might just have two twin mags, etc. So they will shave the weight back and forth. But We're looking at a whole lot of goodies that we've had to put onto this weapon to make it you know kind of work in our you know our direction. The main battle rifles, the MBRs, weigh in at no more than eight and a half to nine pounds. We actually shaved some weight off with synthetic stocks on those rifles. Remember the tropical stock on the M14 guys? I've used both. I've had them with walnut. We've had them with the tropical stock. Let's see, as far as optics go, yep, you can throw some optics on there. And you really aren't going to add that much more weight, but you're also not going to use it like an M4, you're not going to have to burst, fire, and mass. You're going to be using it as an MBR slash an accuracy arm. Yeah, so you're really not going to go up the scale that far. But let's say that you do add a few things. How many more? Now you will be adding perhaps a few pounds, but for what you're doing, is that one and a half to two pound variable? In fact, I'd be willing to, here's my challenge. It's really only about a quarter of a pound difference. By the time I add the goodies I need for my MBR to reach farther with a decent scope, whatever military or aftermarket side mounted M14 scope mount, which by the way now have Picatinny rails for all the flashlights and everything else, I can do all that too on the system. Not that it's necessarily critical because I'm applying this weapon as a different tool in the toolbox so I don't need to use the M4. It does have its applications, because again if we're going to get in close I guess and I want to duke it out at point blank range house to house and I just want to get in somebody's face and I'm going to be using it for the assault. Yes, it serves its purpose, but I'm going to give you a little hint about something that back years ago had to be admitted in the urban warfare phase with everything they had in the way of experience. If you go to the intermediate manuals when we still had the M60 machine gun in service, what does it say about battlefield deployments in an urban area? Oh, if you're having trouble with that 55 grain M16 round or that 60 grain M16 round trying to get through stuff, call up the M60 machine gutter. Why? Because he'll get through whatever you can't. But wait a minute that that means Don that he was carrying a superior realm a greater penetration under comes the 30 caliber. Yeah Wait a minute, but that's contrary to everybody that's been told you know We don't need the 308 now here again for the assault troops especially think about where they wanted to do use this you're with a Bradley unit in NATO fighting see everybody goes all this urban warfare. It's just totally new Really the The campaign for bad Harrisville was expected to be almost all, with the exception of the initial open field fighting for the defensive perimeter that was set up, was going to be fighting urban warfare every step of the way. And in the assault phases to route those entrenched Ruskies out or punch out those entrenched Czechs or those tenacious Poles or the Hungarians that might show up, the M60 was going to be called upon to punch them out of those positions that they'd built up or to punch through the walls where they were hiding in the other room. No, this was not Vietnam. This was all Europe. Right. That's right. You're up. And in fact, it was something that everybody had already looked at. There's no lesson that we had to relearn here. We just simply had to pay attention to combat experience already gleaned from, yes, World War II, Korea, and even to a degree Vietnam. But the Grass-Hut syndrome, obviously, throw that out the door. No, there are cities we fought urban warfare in, for instance, in Vietnam, Hue, probably being the best example, guys, the city away, the old capital. And we all know what happened there, and that was true. Oh, there was house to house, a lot of house to house and building to building, fighting there that went on for a couple of weeks. And it still comes down to what was called up when they were in trouble. Oh, that's right, the good old hog gunner was pulled in and he could punch through stuff that most everybody else couldn't. The M16 with a TET offensive rifle marksmanship stance. I used to joke about this, that's why I used to joke about the 16 guys. Remember that? And I know what they were doing. It was volume firing, keeping the bad guys busy. But you might recall this one scene you never see anymore where there are three infantrymen behind a berm. Obviously, there's a hill beyond them. They're on the edge of a berm. They've got a pile of mags, and they're ripping a mag out, sticking it in the magazine, hitting the side of the receiver, and the gun goes up over the berm, and bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah bah you know, battles in cities and whatnot. I think that in that book is a count of the first American soldiers blowing holes in walls in the city in order to work from room to room in city fighting. I might be wrong, but I don't remember any accounts, even into World War II, of American soldiers doing that. I could be wrong, but that's the first accounts I've ever read of that mark. With the Europeans, especially the Russians versus the Germans, that became very common in the battles for Stalingrad, the outer battles for Leningrad, and eventually even in any of the city battles going back through Eastern Europe into Germany, where the Russians and the Germans fought literally and lost hundreds of men fighting room to room. not fighting for whole neighborhoods losing hundreds of men fighting over a room the size of your kitchen and your living room combined all because they blew holes through what like you said, like two mouse holes or rat holes with the troops trying to surge out from one point or the other to take the other half of the room or take the other wall and just literally piling the bodies the big thing about urban warfare guys superiority now remember in that day and age that nagot rifle that you have the very battle scenes we're talking about that grossly overpowered 7.62x54 Russian rim cartridge and that grossly overpowered 30x06 and that grossly overpowered 8mm I love grossly overpowered cartridges. I want lots of grossly overpowered cartridges. I'm not trying to be nice to the bad guys on the other side. I want to overwhelm them and punch through everything they have and put the soft, chewy stuff to rest. That's the attitude you gotta have. So the reason I'm bringing this up is a combined arms team. One thing to consider guys is that if you do have a dominant number of light rifles, as we call them because you'll know, you don't have assault rifles. You don't have an M16 and you don't have a real AK. You have a semi-automatic rifle that the liberals have tried to give a different name to. That semi-automatic rifle does not have a select fire. It is a magic trigger finger that makes it work and that's it. So it's a light curbing. Now, when you have light carbines integrated into a weapon system, you want to have, and this is where the trick of having an M14 or a couple of M14s, let's take the M1As or the FNFALs or the Cetmes or the G3s or the PTR 91s now, and let's consider them the same as a BAR. Let's deploy them the same way, if need be, just to give you additional punch and firepower where it's critically needed. Do you know what's interesting? With the exception of only some units, in the infantry configuration, you have just upgraded your infantry formation dramatically over most other forces on the ground right now, except some of the older, smaller countries that can't afford a change out from weapon systems. Yes, everybody goes, well that's kind of stepping back. No, you are stepping into a superiority situation where as needed that heavy rifleman can do two things. If that weapon is properly maintained, Don, he can reach out and touch somebody, can't he? Oh, yes. But if need be he can take that 20 round mag turn it on an objective and in a three to five round burst using a quick finger Quick trigger finger neutralize the threat. That's right. It's a punch through look. We've got a light vehicle there bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum boom chick magazine change click and Click, slap, charging handle, and boom, boom, boom, boom. And again, the idea is that the weapon can be employed either way successfully. Now does that mean you can't chew them up with .223 and the .762 by .39? Well, you can, but how much do you have to use to eat through to the target? See, one of the things to consider is when you end up, this is where all of your team has to be thinking. This is where all of you have to be thinking as a group that plans on winning a battle. When we're looking at a situation like that, then the most important thing to remember is cooperation and teamwork, being able to observe, evaluate, and identify the threat, and then come up with the proper weapon solution to deal with it. In other words, I don't want to have to beat it down with every magazine I'm carrying. I'd rather have somebody, you know, a weapon, you know, like a saw man, designated heavy rifleman, whatever you want to call him. The purpose of that guy, that one man, is to apply or to be applied and to take advantage fully of the energy of the weapon system he's adopted. Now the next step... He's bringing the long sword. Yeah, exactly. And then we're still, we're not leaving out the .50 caliber rifles, guys, because I still argue that that particular weapon system is the other part of the formula in changing the dynamic on the battlefield. Now, the government is finally embracing .50s, but let's point this out. Where did that come from? Oh, you know, skip caliber. God rest his soul. Used to instruct SEAL team number three mark in their 50 caliber marksmanship and handling. Yep. And think about it. Not to mention the development. In fact, were it not for the private sector developing the half inch gun, the military would have no such chicken to roost. There would be no such bird to play with were it not for... Don't be stuck with a little nine power on top of that M2. That's right. That's as far as Carlos took it. Yep, and even then for him and even end I was serviceable I mean that was that was that was interesting but schlepping around a 50 caliber Browning M2 is a little more. Oh my gosh They call that a crew-served weapon for a reason, you guys. That's right. And yet it was. It was considered an infantry firearm originally. That was its purpose. So here's the thing. The private sector looked at the problem and said, darn, that brownie is nice, but there's two things. Man, that thing eats up the wallet, number one. And it eats up and burns up calories. And I ain't getting any younger. I'm not a spring chicken. Let's develop a better idea. And lo and behold, if you look at the different fields of interest, we had dropping block 50s, bolt action 50s based on the big old traditional Mauser actions, they're still out there. And then a guy named Barrett said, hmm, if I look at the M16, take the same basic ideas, and I know that's what he did, is he just did, let's take and make a really well-made 4140, 4130 chromoly steel receiver, really fine weight barreled semi-automatic 50 caliber. I'll bet you I can come up with it. And he did. And that didn't go into military circles first. That was in private hands, developed in private hands, and then went into military application. That was so developed, you know, Ronnie Barrett was a carpenter and drew that up in inches and fractions and had to hire somebody to convert the fractions to decimal points so it could be turned into blueprints. I'm not disparaging Ronnie Barrett at all, but it's a true story. the ability to switch out to whatever we wanted to and we went up. We just kept going up. I mean .30 caliber was developed from the shooting area certainly from military resources but in reality it became our weapon. I mean literally that is the .30 caliber round is in the private circles and has been perfected to the nth degree. The half inch gun went the same way guys and the military eventually caught on. In fact, there's a complete inversion. They developed the cartridge, but we developed the technology. The same is true with everything else with how to use it as militia. You're gonna have to perfect these skills. Somebody else is gonna be able to tele- you know, telepathy ain't gonna make it. We're at the top of the art, you hear the music. Donny, you're gonna stick around, you gotta go. I gotta go, Mark. Very good. Your phone number for night vision, please. Two, three, one, seven, nine, six, eight, four. 5-8. 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