Mark Koernke discussed the Deepwater Horizon oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, featuring a lengthy call-in segment with Eleanor White, a retired mechanical engineer from Canada. They analyzed the spill's technical aspects, debunking media exaggeration about pressure and flow rates, and proposed simple containment solutions using sailcloth cylinders and existing pumping infrastructure. The conversation covered alleged government mismanagement, media manipulation of disaster imagery, and connections to broader economic and political agendas. A caller from Alaska (Jason) added technical details about well casing damage from the "Top Kill" operation. Koernke emphasized the need for public awareness, alternative media coordination, and proper voting to address what he characterized as intentional failures by BP, government officials, and foreign interests.
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Oh, sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic and each God given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trample each god given right we only watch him tremble too afraid to stand and fight If he stood by your bedside in a dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep What would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free? Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen. This is the afternoon intelligence report. I'm Mark Wernke one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories Central West Southeast and North well ladies and gentlemen you were listening to us on Liberty Tree radio dot 4 mg.com PBN dot 4 mg.com and we are on live 365 then go to Liberty Tree radio we're also We are also on AM and FM micro stations, CB base stations, and alternate technologies both east and west of the Mississippi, along with southern and central Alaska. We are on the Hallmark network on the Eastern Seaboard from the top of Maine to the bottom of Florida. From the bottom of Florida across the arc of the Gulf of Mexico headed towards Louisiana, Texas, Oklahoma, Chunk of Nebraska, and the third of Wyoming. Also, Iowa slash Iowa, many micro FM stations there, more going up even as we speak. Congratulations. And the Golden Spike Project. Working up of course the hole of the smokies slash the Blue Ridge and want to say hi to all of our friends there. We have a lot of work going on especially at the core element of the restaurant crew and as a reminder there is a party on the beach on Saturday, party on the beach on Saturday, party on the beach on Saturday also. Meeting at the restaurant on Sunday. Meeting at the restaurant on Sunday. There is a meeting at the restaurant on Sunday. Make sure that you bring all of your empty trucks, trailers, and cargo bins. And make a point of being ready to perform parking security. Everybody takes their turn on that virtually every meeting. And nobody's out for very long. Let everybody help us to rotate through. Does a sweep of the area. Knows what's going on. Comes back in. Really cool. intelligent idea. You got a whole bunch of people there. You just keep tagging everybody. Everybody gets their turn. Anyway, also order your meals now. Take care of that before the weekend because that saves everybody else time at the other end. I think we have done. Nope, we don't have done. Well, today's date is... Not yet having some technical problems with the computer because I was doing a site update. The audio wasn't focused on the Skype call, so we had to restart. And it is the 8th of July, second year Fabian Socialist and Soviet Socialist Occupation of America with a K. Now... Oh let's see, you want to say hi to the Twin Cities, got a bunch of work there going on right now and for the Twin Cities for K Company and for G Company. You guys were the Colonial Marines up in that neck of the woods, congratulations, appreciate the work you're doing there. Also Memphis, Tennessee, our friends in Memphis and in specifically, hold on, I gotta make sure I get the notes right, over in Yeah, as a matter of fact, Memphis, the north end and the east end of Memphis, Tennessee, you want to say hi to everybody there in particular. Apparently we have a couple of little micro- I don't know how big, not very large, but to say they're doing some experiments. This is a test run, see how it gets through. So if you're listening right now, whoa, whoa, there we go. And you're listening to Liberty Tree Radio and the Intel report. Now we're going to have Don here a little bit. Meanwhile, for all of our people listening to, remember a lot of you, as I've said, and I'm going to keep repeating this, this saves a lot of time. We have a number of manuals that are on our website. It saves you time and resource in general. If you use standard operating procedure for operations and activities, especially for the individual, the fire team, and the squad. Now, all of these, these three components, build armies. The rest is history, guys. So, if you're going to be organizing something like this, remember that you should take the time to come up with an SOP yourself. If you're not going to want to take advantage of this one, set up an SOP, make it standard. This is with regard to personal activities and operations. But otherwise, go to www.libertytreeradio.4mg.com www.libertytreeradio.4mg.com and then Over on the right side is a key. It is the, oh that's right, it's the donation key. It says donate. Over on the side it will also say PayPal. When you go to that, scroll down to the books, you'll find the FM's there. PM8, PM10, the recon manual, the anti-armor manual, the rifle marksmanship manual. There are others. They have not been added yet. And we'll see you out listing them here today sometime in the next hour or two. We've got a couple hours still beyond this one and it is clicking away real quick. The equipping videos are also listed there along with the NBC and the Night Vision video. Take the time to get those Once you've sat somebody down with them, use them over and over again for instruction. But make copies if you need to, and let them take one home. Frisbee time! Frisbee time! Wait a minute, there's all we need to receive you in the back. And ping! There you go, another one. Works just fine for everybody. I know, here we see. I think I can do that. There you go. So anyway. In this format or in this method, it allows for you to come up with a consistent class. You can tweak it. You can add to the class yourself using 10-minute or 15-minute increments depending upon the blocks of instruction. You can break the CDs down, the DVDs down for your purposes. Shut them off, turn it back on, shut it off, turn it back on, question and answer, anybody else, etc., etc. So it's purely a matter of how you want to format the class on your own. I would recommend using the PM-8 and the PM-10, the How to Organize and the SOP Manuals. The Anti-Armor Manual answers a lot of questions about understanding tanks and armored vehicles in general. Not everything that you think is a tank is a tank. It may not even be a fighting vehicle per se, so that makes it a soft target for a tank. Oh yes, it's armored up, but it still can be hunted down, it still can be knocked out. I'm hearing a lot of background. Do we have a caller? You should have all there. No we got down there. We go we got down. That's what I'm good But I know you got the computer right there in front of your dad and it's Good, but you've got so much stuff running on that right now. I and I'll tell you what Don let's just go in this got a little video clip Which I'd like to play the audio from if I can get it up. Well today we're gonna do in the meantime here Don I'm gonna start off right right off the back as we've had a lot of requests a lot of people are calling Some may have been able to call back in that we're going to that we're asking about night vision So first of all if you're gonna buy night vision you might as well buy it from Don Betcher There's no sense in going to Wally world if you can get a better deal with Don and I know you can Also, if you have questions you can ask down about that. So Don you know give out your number and All of the first generation scopes are gone, that's good. And for everybody else that's listening, there are other systems available. Even that model is available in its newest configuration. Right, Don? Oh, you're right, Mark. It's just like a 55, 56, 57 Chevy. And I would say, Eleanor, please be patient for a moment. Again, you take that 283 out of the 55 and put it in the 57 along with the transmission in the rear end and you've got a car that runs. That's basically the same format here. I can offer another piece that has basically the same lens and the same tube just in a different body. It looks different. What they were trying to do was 55, 56, 57. Chevy's trying to come up with something that, look at that, everybody, I want one of those. Everybody wants one. You know what I mean? They're gone. I'm still waiting, but Tom from up north, Tom the last one, so that's kind of his. I can get other first generation pieces, some comparable again, MO2s were on back order there since January. We've got a big batch of them and they're basically the same setup. I will have to get a price on those and I'll bring it up on the air here real quick Mark. But you guys, first, second, third generation, even fourth generation if you want to go that far. big pile of hot bottles and it's a tremendous piece but again it's a big pile of hot bottles. But if you want to talk to me about night vision you can reach me at 231-796-8458. Again 231-796-8458. I've told you about the second generation viewer, second generation gun sight. Gun sight that will hold up to The real weight recoil manufacturer warranties it for two years, so they're pretty confident it will hold up to your main battle rifle recoil. I'm not telling you to put it on top of your 50. I'm just going to say that right out loud, but it's a very rugged, durable piece. If you want to talk to me about those pieces, I'll give you the phone number one more time here. It comes and then we'll move on. You can reach me through that antiquated form of communication known as a telephone and punch in those numbers, 231. 7-9-6-8-4-5-8 and I'll pick up the phone most any time when this one on the air or I'm not here and if I'm not leaving me a message, I'll get back. Mark, I was waiting with the caller I talked to earlier in the day and well, we used to go over to the golf thing here for a while. So we have Eleanor White with us calling from Canada, Mark. Oh, hello, Eleanor. Do we still have Eleanor? Hi, Mark. Yeah, still here. There we go. Go right ahead. listening in or are going to be calling in? There has been a grossly inaccurate picture painted of that disaster. And the bottom line is, using very inexpensive ordinary materials, that disaster could be totally contained and controlled with ease any time they want. The reason is that the actual velocity coming out of that 20 inch pipe, regardless of what it may look like on the screen, is only a couple of miles an hour. Most people think of it as an exhaust from the space shuttle, just shooting out like crazy and totally unmanageable. But if you do the math and you take the official estimate of between one and a half and two and a half million gallons a day, by the time you divide it by the number of seconds in a day, you're only getting three cubic feet a second out of that pipe. And that's only three mop buckets full of oil per second. That's well within anybody's ability to contain, get up to the top, and put on a new ship. Right, exactly what we were talking about. Vacuum sweeping. There's no reason not to. In fact, would you cap off? I try to explain to people this way. If you had an artesian well, would you A, try to bury it, or B, put a pipe in it and direct it? Which would you do? That's what I'm saying. It's so manageable that they could do it any time, but the public has this picture painted for them of a well with monstrous pressure shooting out all over the place and uncontrollable. That couldn't be further from the truth, and their own numbers say that. Now, interestingly enough, as you pointed out, the thing is that once it's very manageable, it can easily be not just contained, but also excavated, it literally pulled, evacuated from the area. There's no reason for it to spread. There's no reason for whatever is on the ocean floor to stay where it is. Step one, contain and relieve whatever it is that's presently coming out. Step two, Parallevel step one is to evacuate, recover anything else that came out of the area of the threat area, the area that was damaged. This is something we've been talking about all the while on the air here and I know everybody else. Let me paint the picture. Here's the picture that we've heard from every direction. This is a massive spill, this is a massive pipe the size of a skyscraper. The volume is of course hundreds of miles per hour. Look at the clouds, look at the image, look at the dynamics of the color we've rotoscoped the image with. And then on top of that, don't worry, The oil is going to kill everything in the Gulf of Mexico. There'll be nothing but eviscerated and salty cadavers left along the coast. Then comes the giant bubble explosion, which is going to create a massive tsunami, which is going to flood half of the United States, which is going to destroy all of the people of the southern part of the US, blah, blah, blah, blah. Oh, you and Canada will probably die, too, but that's simply because of horror, having to look at the pictures of whatever it is that's going to transpire in the south. You know, it went from, we have a single derrick fixture that's gone bad, to somebody doesn't know how to fix it, to instead of firing the plumber, the plumber beats more holes in it. And in this case, it's more like the plumbers that are making business for themselves. making work for themselves by making a lot... Oh, this is really bad. Not only that, every time they talk to somebody, yeah, well, it's bad, really bad. We just don't know what to do. We're really having a tough time. Hey Frank, can you hit the torch at a couple of areas? We got some really dynamic bubbles here too. Had to throw some CO2 in there to rile up some more debris because it wasn't exciting enough. And don't forget digitally enhancing the color to make it look really exciting. Kind of like when you're doing a Disney production when you have animatronics. That's exactly yeah, yeah, I've been watching those the robotic images and as far as I can tell they're not doing anything at all We're just you're just manipulating it around doing absolutely nothing Well, do you remember the movie? When you bring this up, the first thing that comes to mind, how many people remember the movie Alien? Not aliens, the very first one, Alien. Remember when they landed on the planet and they say, oh yeah, big problem, couple of days to fix, yeah, and of course, oh, well I'm coming down there. So the next thing you see is, now before there was nothing going on. All of a sudden she shows up, there's steam flying everywhere, the flasher lights are on, everything, the siren is going off, etc, etc. Well how long do you think it's gonna take? Oh, oh, at least a couple of days, yeah, yeah, a couple of days. We ought to talk about our bonus right now. Let's talk about a bonus. you're gonna get paid what you're gonna get paid blah blah blah blah she takes often and they're both looking at her and then they look at each other and they hit one switch and then he had another switch and all the lights go off and all the steam disappears. The sad part is this is not funny but it's funny it's like you know they could show you this on television the reality of how things work And then when you actually do it in real life, it's, no, no, that can't be what's happening. This is very serious. I think one of the things that really is missing from this, you know, if you think about it, you know, from our experience, I think you're probably about the same age I am, maybe a little older. Not even about the same age. And you know what's fascinating? Where's Greenpeace? Where are the green piece of salt boats? Wouldn't we have a green piece of salt boat out there by now over there in front of the oil rigs and protesting and stopping the harpooning of the oil or something? Instead it's... Somebody should ask them. Yeah, it's absolutely quiet. In fact, no footage, nobody out there protesting, almost as if somebody in the environmental groups is going, yes, yes, the plan is going as expected, yes, they told us how this would work, yes, we'll not get in the way soon, they can crack America. Ha ha ha ha ha. That's exactly what I get out of this. Actually, yeah, that is a bit surprising. They're not even pushing for donations. Yeah, they're not even pushing for donations. That's something too. Think about that. You would be hearing the gong. Bang, bang, bang. We gotta save the sea lions. There's no sea lions down there. Oh, shut up. Same tape, different ear. Go ahead, please. I'm sorry. Well, the environmental groups have totally discredited themselves by denying that there are any chemtrails being sprayed. Exactly. And here again, this is telling you something about what we've argued for years, is that they're part of the planned argument, the engineered environment. and what gets me about it is, I still keep repeating this. I taught photography. If I'm going to do something where I'm going to show you a poor little dead fish or a poor little dead mucked up duck or I'm going to show you a picture where I'm going to pan across the beach I'm gonna swing the camera and pivot the cameraman and I'm gonna go down so I can orient you to where I am. Here I am. It's Schmidlap Beach in Louisiana. And here, holding the microphone, I look at the... ...equivering and almost dead bodies of mallards, of ocean ducks, of sea bass. And by the way, and as you're saying that, the camera will pan and the camera would then be showing you a panoramic and then a zoom shot going in so that you're oriented and there's no gap. Instead, the pictures are all plastic. Guys working on beach. Flashed, and all of a sudden, oh but look there's this poor little seagull and he's all covered in oil. But the problem is, it's a zoom in close, it's done like an art deco, or like a constructed art piece, and that was very tactful. Only part of the duck is shown, and a little bit of seaweed, and some very fashionable seashells. And then back to a shot where you don't come up from the, oh my god, that poor duck, he must be in Louisiana. No, that duck was photographed in 1988 somewhere in Nova Scotia when one of the British oil rigs blew up up there and dumped oil on that beach. Or it could have been from Paraguay. And you wouldn't know the difference because you can't tell. So in other words, the propaganda picture, even done by the people who are doing the, oh my goodness, the contamination and the poor critters are dying. I don't doubt that critters are dying. This whole thing is intentional. But as far as it being the end of the world, only in that they're whipping the stick up. I think they're whipping the stick up from both directions. I think they're... Well, let me interject here because, you know, I was talking to some oil men a while back and I happened to pick up this one book from a great big book, book on fluid dynamics. Oh yes. It's a good subject to study. You're right. You can learn a lot. Fluid dynamics just isn't necessarily water or hydraulic fluid. It can even be air or the containment or the movement through hoses and pipes and whatnot. But I get an off subject here. Because you know what? We've got to engineer. Didn't you say that, Eleanor? You're a retired mechanical engineer? Yes, that's right. Now with that in mind, what would you do to fix this? I hate to put you on the spot, but what would you do just off the top of your head? My suggestion would be to take a mile of sail cloth, rivet or stitch it into a cylinder and just drop it down over the pipe. and that will separate the oil from the rest of the ocean and it could be brought to the surface that way and picked up by ships. Yeah, exactly. It's a screening system. You're building a screed. Yes. And a simple screed. Wait a minute, you're not spending enough money. I don't think you'd spend more than, well, let's see, as you want to go on the outrageous end, a million dollars. Wait a minute. That's too simple. In fact, and wait a minute, it doesn't knock down the rest of the economy in the process. Now the other cool thing about that idea is that again, as you said, you can actually put pumping units in place that would recover whatever oil is evacuating from the pipe, right? Sure. And so we wouldn't have the oil. There would be no need for correxates and nukes. That system could last for years if needed. Well, after all, I think you could produce more sailcloth and drop another one right over the first one, wouldn't you? Sure. I think I see what you're saying. My point is, it's like, well, it's a mile down. Well, it's actually 5,000 feet down. Let's see, if I have to replace it, I don't think anybody's going to notice the tattered one underneath the original one. In other words, it's like, oh my goodness, it looks so unseemly. It's like, no, we just build the same model. Maybe we know what the dynamics of the original frame are. We just drop a supplemental frame that we riveted into place. In fact, we can hook it into place. It can be tagged into place. You can even accommodate for that so that you can, the frame, the structural frame allows for other frames to be dropped in and systematically bolted or hooked into place and under tension slash pressure, they stay. That'd be so simple. And the pressure itself is actually going to help to contain the material once you have a containment vessel like the sail cloth. There's a lot of mythology around about that pressure. That 100,000 PSI applies only to the underground reservoir. As long as the oil is flowing, the pressure when it reaches the ocean floor is going to match the pressure of the ocean. It's not going to be any higher. working as a containment system with the sail being used as a separator would actually create the same effect that we see in reverse order and it's an inversion of what we see with, for instance, high altitude weather balloons, especially the old survey balloons. Remember when they were coming down, they always looked like a teardrop, but once they get to altitude, they would balloon out to a globe and most people would always think of it always think of them the other way around well it would be a reversal with regard to the environment down there you're looking for mass filling up the sale cloth that would be cool yeah this is too simple we're gonna have to fire you you know what happened you're in the boardroom what did she say this is cheap isn't it well okay what are we looking at we only have several billion dollars here no no less than a million but about a million if you want to spend that much no no I mean how many billion it no I'm going down a little bit here m million Then the rest is conventional pumping technology. One of the things I was pointing out about that too, an articulated or flexible pumping system can be hooked up and you can randomly hook up to the, say, the bilekas and run however many units you want to at the surface. Fill them up, run them out. You know, we're usually paying to pump this stuff and having to put a rigid frame in place. Although it could put another frame in, I guess, another structure, another rig. But it wouldn't be necessary. Because part of the Gulf, one thing I will say too, and this is something, how many people know that most of the ships that we're dealing with, the tankers, don't dock? They pump anywhere from a mile to several miles out at sea when they're dropping off crude oil. That's right. Most people don't even realize the infrastructure and how it's set up. This has already been in place. They're floating fixtures the way they're set up. They're articulated and they drop off. At one time they've had up to a hundred and what, 117 to 129 super tankers, not just smaller rigs, but super tankers backed up down there at Gulfport. because of the articulated site is usually backed up or somebody rigs or they're backing up waiting for the price of oil to go up. But either way, that's something that we, they don't even want, you know what's missing from this whole thing? And if you notice this, it's all the technology that in the past we've always bragged about, and we all acknowledge is there. And all of a sudden it's like the whole slate's been wiped out clean, and nothing's there but that big oil rig, and it's all by itself, and it's the biggest one in the world, and it's doing this and that and the other, and there's nothing else in the Gulf of Mexico we should be looking at. When just to reverse as the case, I'm sorry, go ahead, please. But I say that's the big tragedy, that they could have had this taken care of within a week or two. That's all they need. It's not the violent volcano that everybody thinks it is, and you can calculate that using the numbers they provide. Well, one of the things too here is that, let's describe it this way for everybody listening, you're in oil land. You're looking at Texas. You're looking at Louisiana, the southern Louisiana pod there. If you, and I've told people over and over again, let's do it this way. Take your computer, clicky-clicky-click. We're on a few numbers, check something out here. OK, let's go for oil refineries and recovery sites. Let's say Gulf of Mexico. And then let's hit Search. And then, oh look, there's maps. Let's hit a map. And all of a sudden, bink, bink, bink, bink, bink, bink, bink, bink, bink, bink, bink, bink, bink. Wow! There's over 100 refineries available along the arc of the Gulf of Mexico, either large and small. And some of them specialize in processing. That's right, recovered oil! So we don't even have to make the equipment to do this. It's already been done. There's nothing here that is a surprise. In fact, the only thing they're counting on, if you ask me, is the ignorance created by the public fool system and the propaganda generated by shills and liars in the media. Who of course are working there? Yeah, who are working as meat puppets you know for the government? You know from the executive end who by the way is he there that character is a meat puppet along with the rest of the sheisters that are there Because there's another bunch behind the scenes. Oh wait a minute it goes right back to the very groups of people we're talking about British Petroleum Wall Street the British Mile and places over in the Middle East. Oi, I'm telling you. So this whole thing to me, stacked one on top of the other, is a fabricated cascading intentional failure. It's not something that just happened. I mean, it could have been any number of different options as far as how they created it, but I think everybody starts, needs to be talking about this morning. You start getting into the public venue and challenging everyone. You're coming up with a simple solution. Now, there's something I proposed. Let's not trust anything the general media is producing because people are always telling us that. If you ask people, I ask, is the control media lying? Yes, they do. Do they lie for government? Yes. Does government lie? Yes. Okay, now since all three of those answered, we have to ask some basic questions about every one of these scenarios that are playing out. In the case of this oil spill, or this oil fiasco that we have, how many different oil rigs are in the Gulf of Mexico? how much hardware is available to draw on to deal with the problem. If they understand this, then aren't we looking at a big criminal mass of people here? Shouldn't we be arresting somebody? Of course the problem is if it's treason from inside the government, who do we get to arrest them? The five-star general could do that. Yes, exactly. And that's one of the things that I pointed out. Here's an interesting thing. Remember back when Douglas MacArthur was coming back from Korea. When Truman knew he was coming back, Truman knew why he was coming back and he ran to Camp David and hid. The reason he hid is because Douglas MacArthur was a five-star general, a general of the army, which meant that he had the ability legally and lawfully, to walk in and arrest the president or anybody else for acts of treason against our military forces overseas. Now, we're looking at a very different scenario because it's not just an overseas action halfway around the world. We're now looking at acts of war and treason. It's a combination because the foreign power manipulating this is a foreign power to the United States and is operating obviously with what appears to be impunity. But how can they have gained that impunity? How could they gain that being exonerated from proper retribution for the actions that they are taking, for what they have done? That means treason. that individuals within the system are committing treason against our nation right now. And it's putting at risk Canada, it's putting at risk the United States, it's putting at risk Mexico, and then it's also looking at intentionally destabilizing the economy of the world in general. At least our little bit of the, let's put it this way, our corner at the very least, which then will affect a whole lot of other friends and allies we have, if they aren't really playing both sides, which a lot of them are. Just because we're calling them allies doesn't mean that they are. I can think of a whole long list that right now would be salivating at the idea of chopping up the United States. I think we can see that happening right now. Anyway, you know, again, let's get from the technical end especially. Again, the sailcloth, go ahead, give us a map out. Let's say that we've got you in the boardroom. and we've decided to follow your basic plan. Give us an overview for everybody listening. First of all, we're looking at the problem. What do you see? How do you see the problem and how it's developed? What then should we do to deal with the problem? Go ahead. Well, because you don't want problems with a high-speed flow causing a fabric shoot to flutter around and possibly shred, I would make it fairly large, I mean maybe 5 foot diameter, maybe 10, and there would be a metal ring at the bottom and a metal ring at the top, possibly a coral inside to keep it cylindrical, although that should not be actually needed. You just drop it over the pipe basically and the oil will slowly fill it. It's only coming out at a couple of miles an hour from a 20 inch pipe. When you expand that to 5 or 10 foot diameter, the actual speed of the oil rising through the duct will be very slow. That's what you want. You don't want anything out of control. You'd have a barge with the upper end held out as a cylinder at the top, and you'd have ships dipping their hose and vacuum hoses into that cylinder. That's all there is to it. So simple, it's ridiculous, right? Yes. Well, no, it has to be more complicated. It just has to be. No. In fact, what's fascinating about this is, again, As we pointed out, I think people are wanting to see some kind of disaster that forces or that allows them to not face the reality of all the other problems we have that we can deal with. Have you noticed that? I mean that's something that to me it's like everybody, oh my goodness this is so bad it's the end! And you have to ask the basic question. Well, go ahead, please. I'm sorry. That's the problem. And one way they have painted an inaccurate picture of this oil jet is by quoting the pressure down in the reservoir, you know, 70 to 100,000 BSI. That pressure, you never have to deal with it as long as the oil is flowing. It's just a pressure you don't have to deal with. It doesn't exist up at the top. Only if you try to shut it off. Here's the best way to explain it. Anybody ever had a fire extinguisher that you charge up, a water fire extinguisher? Or better still, let's put it this way. How about a water diaphragm that's used for a camper? Okay, there are variations on this as far as flow or type, depending upon the volume, how large the exit point is. In this case, we're looking at a variation on that, but with a very different head dynamic, where once it gets to the point where the exhaust or the vent point is. And we don't have We've got a very different material that we're moving to on top of everything else. I think that the toughest thing for people to understand is the mass, the density of the oil itself, which is cis and actually retarding the process. People think oil, they think a quart of 10w40 from the gas station. that's one of the problems you have to overcome. All the other fun stuff that you actually deal with, the plastics that make up your computer, the hull, the other polymers, everything that you can imagine in the way of other dense materials, some of them extracted and processed off into other industrial ventures, a lot of it you never see. I mean literally you don't ever see, but it's critical to industry. Well, That's part of what all makes up that crude oil, keyword is crude, that we're talking about. And still, it goes past people's minds. I mean, they understand tarball. They hear the word tarball. Now people are being educated about how oil eventually coalesce when it's on beaches or how it occurs naturally once it's left a point like this. But it's hard. The moderator has disconnected. Uh-oh. Do we still got you? We still got everybody? I'm still here. Oh right, well that's good. I think we're going out on the air, at least we're going on Ustream. Something happened there, major burp. We've got some storm down in this neck of the woods guys so we might end up with an interruption by the time we're done. But anyway, my point is there are so many different parallels that explain, or you could better explain, what we're dealing with. An artesian well, like I mentioned before, the pressure below ground in an artesian water well is at such a PSI, but bleeding coming out of the ground or wherever it is and then tapped with a pipe and directed. You don't have a jet stream. You don't have a fire hydrant. Think about that. Just think about physical experiences that match what you're trying to explain. I think that's really what we're looking at here. And a lot of people when they step back and think, it's like, well, no, that's true. It doesn't mean we don't have our T-Shin Wells that are pretty impressive. But the average are teaching well you can walk up coming out of a two inch pipe, a three inch pipe, a five inch pipe. I mean they're all over the place here where we are. Some of lasted a hundred years. There's one that I can walk over right now that my grandfather used to always pull water from located between Ann Arbor and Dexter. We're talking about just less than average tap pressure. You can sit your hand underneath there. It's like being underneath a water tap on a bathtub, large bore. And we're not talking the spray and pray here. We're talking pretty casual flow. So again, now we've got everything in motion. Again, we're looking at the expenditure here. Anything we should be watching for that might change, anything that would be a critical issue? Well, if you're asking me, I think the most critical issue is to inform the public that the well is nothing like it's being publicized as, because once the public is informed, they would demand that this be taken care of immediately. And again, it's amazing that it's gone on as far as it has. I think, again, the problem we've got is this is Chicago mob business. This is what this comes down to. This is Chicago mob politics brought to the national level. What you're seeing here is why Chicago is in the trouble it's in and Detroit is in the trouble it's in. Now the same kind of shysters have been brought up to the federal level and we're seeing the same kind of manipulation with the border and also with the oil spill. And again, I don't care what it is, the transportation authority nonsense the same way. And I read a little bit... It fits right in with the demonization and vilification of oil as a tran... That's how they'll play this. That's the leverage they're building. And I think it has to be repeated over and over again. What we need to do is we need to charge criminally all of these in... Well, we're going to have to vote in November properly. We've got to get rid of the scallywags and start getting rid of all of them. That, of course, everybody goes, well, that's a nice, mild thing to say. Yeah, well, listen, it's one of those out-in-the-future things that we may never get to, but it's something that can be done. The other thing is we've got talk shows all over the place. You know, we have alternate media where we can talk to people and point them in a direction and ask for people to assist. But what we need to do is get people to call in, and virtually we can take over C-SPAN for a morning. I mean, you don't tell them the truth. So are you conservative or are you liberal? Yeah, I'm liberal. Okay, are you independent? No, I'm independent. I'm very liberal. I completely support part of what this guy's talking about. Well, maybe not all, but I'll say all of it for that matter. Then when you get on the screen, or when you get up and they pull you up as a caller, If you have 100 or 200 people that are actually listening and you have an agenda schedule, when Mark is talking and for as long as Mark can talk, Mark, I keep reinforcing, reinforcing, repeat, repeat, repeat, my section of the letter, my two sentences, and I reinforce it and then get on to part of the subject and continue on down the sheet if I can. If I get cut off and let's say that Don's the next person up, he continues overlapping where I left off. The whole of your message... You know that guy before, he was right, and he continued to rattle on. Exactly. Guys, we need to be doing this everywhere. We don't need to be hunkering down, just the reverse. We're in the majority. Most of all of America is disgusted with what's going on. Here's one of the things that I see happening, is they're getting frustrated to the point where they're going into a vert, only in that they know that the only other option then is to start getting into an internal war. So, what we've got to do is demonstrate that there are things that can be done up to getting into that situation that slip the ground right off underneath the aggressor. Now, the border issue is being dealt with. In fact, right now they really hate the idea that we're just taking an independent posture on that. One of the other things that I argue about the coast is, guys, if you want to find out how serious it is, we need coast watchers. We need to survey the water. We need to do it across the whole of the continental United States and the Gulf side. There's no reason that we don't do this. We have the technology off the shelf, the laboratory test packages, which are field packages, are available from Grainger because of mandatory EPA uh... quality control and OSHA quality control for air and water as far as the mainstream media goes guys how many of you have worked as a photographer or done anything like that for a school paper uh... if there's a disaster or something do you take you pick though worst looking image you possibly can and you throw it up there first. I haven't seen any really big shots of the coastline. I've seen a couple of shots of beaches, but they've been like tight end shots. Right, exactly. There hasn't been any big pam back, oh look how bad this is, it's here. Look here. Well, I sound that way. Don't look down that way. Look here, right? It's it's a plastic my term for it is plastic. It's all engineered It's plastic and the whole event is plastic This could be dealt with should be dealt with on my other point would be made on this is guys I'm gonna I will rub this and again one way to track it is follow the money Show me the money All we have to do is go to the EPA. The EPA actually quotes, actually posts, what the fines are for leakage and for damage in the Gulf or for that matter anywhere along the coast of the United States. We know what the set value is. In other words, what does it cost? What do they charge you for a spillage? Now, it's a dollar amount. Let's say we're rounded off to $4,700. We're going to go up rather than, we'll go up rather than down so it eats the money up faster. If we know that one barrel of oil costs $4,700 per barrel, Then we can divide the mass, the number of gallons per each of the barrels, into the overall dollar amount and then calculate accordingly to get an exact or at least a slippage plus or minus, say, 2 percent, we don't care. And we can actually demonstrate that we don't just have this spill. We've had spills non-stop in the Gulf of Mexico for as long as any of us have been doing radio. But just in the last 12 months, how many other incidents like this have taken place? Are they as dramatic as this? Well, they've been out of sight, out of mind, because the toilet flush works differently in different areas depending upon how deep the water is. Which is something else out of sight out of mind and one thing you've brought up about the whole idea of the pressure Which we keep repeating everybody to it. It's me. Okay from the Wall Street Journal. I think it was a Wall Street Journal today Yeah, you asked abends more information about beep from BP about what they're doing for the cleanup and One of the things they want that they're demanding information about is they want to update about when relief wells and other oil Response efforts will be completed relief wells we put a stop on all drilling. Anybody remember that? Obama said, no, you can't drill here. So what relief wells are going in right now? Well, the other part about this, and this ties in with your solution is so simple, it's ridiculous, which of course is not ridiculous, it's just so simple, there's no reason for him not to do it. Uh oh, I hear another voice, maybe you have a caller and a question, go ahead. Yeah, I've been told for a while. There is a relief well going in. There's Jason in Alaska. Oh, I know. No, that's what we're saying. The point is that they've dropped all other drilling. Remember, that was one of the first things they did in the first few weeks. No, they sent in, on day 34, they sent in one of their Discover units, which is a deep-speed drill, and they've got it about 150 feet from the original well-set. Now they're drilling with the drill. No, we know that. No, I understand. I understand that. My point is, what they've done is they, I'll qualify this the rest of the way. What they did is use this as the excuse to stop American drilling. Otherwise, all other corporate American, our American drilling systems are offline. They're doing the BS relief with go with BP, that's all a crock. Meanwhile, the Chinese, the Russians, the Venezuelans and everybody else are pulling off this same cap. Now the Venezuelans are way south, so they're going to have to do some exporatory, but they're companies. I don't know if anybody caught this this week. Wait a minute, this last week. Venezuela was nationalizing some of the oil companies. Some of them wouldn't make new deals, so they're taking over all their operations. They already had nationalized some of their work. Well, yeah, but the thing is, some of them made deals, so they were able to stay in business a little longer. But one of the things they didn't mention about, the two companies that they nationalized, is that those companies, the operations they were running with Venezuela and fighting over, have to do with other deep exploration rigs. So there's a fight over who's going to jump in there now that they got America cut off from drilling. That's what this is all about. This whole thing was just like, there you are, J.W., the Alaskan pipeline. How much oil went to America? Go ahead. I wanted to talk to you guys about, sorry, I don't mean to interrupt, but what you guys are talking about could have happened week one, two, and three, but it is no longer possible anymore at all. and they did it themselves. Operation Topville, everybody up here was screaming bloody murder not to do it. And here's why. When we built the Alaska pipeline, we figured it would have 30 to 40 years of life in it. And every year now, we send about 10 probes a month down because it's starting to really get weak. And that's why we're starting to have the least of the way out. Oil is insanely abrasive. It's like the ultimate sandblaster. When they let that well go loose, it started sandblasting the heck out of that casing. I mean really, really bad. Now when they did, think of a garden hose, you've got a couple of leaks in it, right? And you just let the pressure go out the end of the garden hose, you're just fine. But you kink the end of that garden hose and all that pressure stuff, and it's going to go out and you're going to find every one of those leaks and they're going to be real bad. When they did Operation TopSill, they did it on day speak of the issue. Around 50 or 60, correct me if I'm wrong there, That casing was very weak by then. If they would have just capped the sucker, when it's not capped, they don't just stop the flow. They retard the flow and siphon it off. The problem is, what did they do guys? They did Operation Top Fill. They took hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of pounds of mud under high pressure and shot down that well. What did that do? That's the pressure. the worst thing you could possibly do. Now the reason why it's coming out as a really slow flow is because that is no longer the primary vent. The wellhead. The wellhead is no longer the primary vent because it's no longer a primary vent. It cannot solely be you can't just cap it off and have it done. You see what I'm saying? Well, one of the things that she's discussing here, and I think understanding what she's saying, is any place where you have any of the structure left, you could use that as a foundation for the project. You could even divert between cutting off, breaking down, whatever you have in the way of an evacuation point, where you have any of the original line intact. you simply go back to the next because you're not going to do exactly what she's talking about you're going to do exactly what we were discussing you're not going to stop the flow you're going to direct the flow and I think number one it's still the pressure issues as far as what's actually exhausting from there we have two problems with this number one it's a five thousand a feet down and whatever they claim or whatever they pull out of their arse, there's no way we can prove or disprove, but if we take their numbers that they've actually given, and that's what I think the guest is saying, and I know she is, I'm going to guess, the problem is that the math moves in a totally different direction from their propaganda. And I think that's the problem. The pressure of the water helps you. Right. The high pressure of the water that actually aids you in controlling the wellhead. Yeah, but the wellhead is no longer the primary event. There's vents up to 10 miles away now. Well, I'm... It's just pretty insane. My problem with that is, again, the question is who is actually doing the survey? And right now they're demanding information, etc. BP knows what they're doing here or how they're going to be scattering the information. My problem is dump a hydraulic unit down there that's pumping and just to kick stuff up and make it appear wherever you want it to appear. If they're paying themselves, they're not paying the US government the $4,700 per barrel times, however much oil they've sludged out already, and there's an advantage. They've got the bookkeeping down, and I argued this right from the first day. They've got the bookkeeping down so that what's happening is this. On the one hand, they have the disaster with the primary mother company. Then they have a shill company with another name, which in reality is a direct offshoot of BP, that is going to be the clean up crew, which has brought in the toxic chemical, which everybody's worried about. But they're paying them, and in reality, I guarantee that's part of the EPA write off. The way they've got this set up, the bookkeeping, and the way they'll... I'm going to be kissing between the big cheeks. You know what I mean? What's going to happen is there will be no, I'm just saying. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Well, just to finish up with it, the problem with it is that these characters are more worried about and in fact have orchestrated this Perhaps as a buffer, and I'm really questioning this, there's more than one purpose here, a buffer to protect BP with the depression coming up, which is very likely, guys, just like 911 helped to make sure Silverstein covered costs on asbestos removal that otherwise would have had to have been taken care of with the whole disaster at ground, you know, with the World Trade Center. I see this as a variation on the theme. One of the other things we should tie into this guy is looking at this overall is the very thing you brought up. We have an aging infrastructure from the last crisis, from the oil crisis, which of course was also part of a depression, which they fabricated. Now we're looking at a similar scenario where they're conditioning everybody to claim that there's shortage or that there's a restriction or that there are other problems. So from that perspective, they're engineering the next crisis in one tier. They're protecting BP and another. BP has already done the mapping. And when I'm saying mapping, I'm not talking about the oil spill itself. I'm talking about the accounting and economic mapping to buffer themselves completely and pay themselves and negate any other paybacks that they're going to have to make to the corporation of the United States. They've looked at this carefully, but if they got into this and they planned this, and I do believe they planned it, and I do believe it was engineered, they're all a bunch of stinking spit swapping ring knockers to begin with and swine. So with that being the case, yeah, what are their what's their usual agenda now the other part about this and I know you've got a bunch of people are online this is cool, but one of the things that I would tie in with this and I will keep reinforcing is Guys they had to map this out administratively beforehand and they did we're gonna go to the top of the our break and everybody consider where they are Donny gonna be around you're gonna go We sell our color our guest There we go, Eleanor. Well, you've got everybody talking now, and that's what we need to see happen. Everybody needs to talk this out, and we need to think through. God bless you. Thank you for coming up. Ooh-rah. Don, God bless the Republic. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. But we are on the march both day and night. Kick him in the slats, grab all the executives we can from all directions, put cotton on him, and stuff him in the hole. Well, absorb the oil. 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