Mark Koernke and co-host Donald Betcher discussed Weapons Wednesday, covering firearm training techniques, magazine loading procedures for various weapons systems, and preparedness planning. Callers raised concerns about roundabout traffic circles appearing in Idaho and Michigan, which Koernke characterized as federal stimulus-funded infrastructure potentially designed as control points. The show featured extensive discussion of border security operations in Arizona, with callers from the Arizona Citizens Militia detailing weapons encountered at the Mexican border including PKMs, AKs, RPGs, and armor-piercing ammunition. Tactical recommendations included shotgun deployment in patrol units and alternative squad support weapons. The second hour featured Dutch Jones discussing Christian militia perspectives.
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It's easier to find than my birth certificate. A figure walked in through the mist with a flintlock in his hand. His clothes were torn and dirty as he stood there by my bed. He took off his three-cornered hat and speaking low to me, he said. We fought a revolution to secure our liberty. We wrote the Constitution as a shield from tyranny. For future generations, this legacy we gave. In this, the land of the free and home of the brave. The freedoms we secured for you, we hoped you'd always keep. The tyrants labored endlessly while your parents were asleep. Your freedom's gone, your courage lost, you're no more than a slave. In this, the land of the free. and home of the brave. You buy permits to travel and permits to own a gun. Permits to start a business or to build a place for one. On land that you believe you own, you pay a yearly rent, although you have no voice in saying how the money's spent. Your children must attend a school that doesn't educate, and your Christian values can't be taught according to the state. You read about the current news in a regulated press and you pay a tax you do not owe to please the IRS Your money is no longer made of silver nor of gold you trade your wealth for paper so your life can be controlled You pay for crimes that make our nation turn from God and shame You've taken Satan's number you traded in your name You've given government control to those who do you harm so they could burn down churches and seize the family farm and keep our country deep in debt. Put men of God in jail. Harash your fellow countrymen while corrupted courts prevail. Your public servants don't uphold the solemn oaths they've sworn. And your daughters visit doctors so their children won't be born. Your leaders send artillery and guns to foreign shores and send your sons to slaughter fighting other people's wars. Can you regain the freedoms for which we fought and died? Or don't you have the courage or the faith to stand with pride? And are there no more values for which you'll fight to save? Or do you wish your children to live in fear and be a slave? O sons of the Republic, arise, take a stand, defend the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the land, preserve our great Republic in each God-given right, and pray to God to keep the torch of freedom burning bright. As I awoke, he'd vanished in the mist for whence he came. His words were true, we are not free, but we have ourselves to blame. For even now as tyrants trampled each god-given right, we only watching tremble, too afraid to stand and fight. If he stood by your bedside to dream while you were asleep and wondered what remains of the freedoms he'd fought to keep, what would be your answer if he called out from the grave? Is this still the land of the free? Good evening ladies and gentlemen, this is the Evening Intelligence Report. I'm Mark Quirky. And I'm Donald Betcher. one day closer to victory for all of our brothers and sisters both on and behind the lines in occupied territories central west southeast and north well ladies and gentlemen you're listening to us on libertytreeradio.4mg.com, pbn.4mg.com, and we are live 365, then go to Liberty Tree Radio. We're also on AM&FM micro stations, CB Bay stations, and ultra net technologies both east and west of the Mississippi, along with southern and central Alaska. Let's see, we're then on the Hallmark network along the eastern seaboard, Maine to Florida, Florida, Louisiana, Texas, Oklahoma, across and then north to Nebraska, chunk there in several directions like a big umbrella, and then over to the third of Wyoming and Iowa proper in the other direction. Then back to the Gold Spike Project all over the Smokies, all over the Blue Ridge. Wanna say hi to everybody there. Remember there's a party on the beach on Saturday, party on the beach on Saturday, party on the beach on Saturday, and a meeting at the restaurant on Sunday, meeting at the restaurant on Sunday, meeting at the restaurant on Sunday, mmm, bring transport, ordering your meals, make sure you're ready to do security there on site as everybody pitches in. Don, today's date is... Mark, it is the seventh day of July, year of our Lord 2010. Again, July 7th, Aut10. And it's a pretty cool day around here. You guys, you know what's coming, and if you don't, well, here it is anyway. One in the chamber, the slide jumps the battery, the magazine is in the well, the perimeter is secure, and it is Weapons Wednesday. No way! Mark, we talked... Yes, it is. I have confirmation on that. We talked earlier in the day about loading up that magazine in your AR. It's a different procedure to load up a magazine into an AK. And it's a different procedure to load up a magazine into your handgun. The right tool, the right job, the right application, the right use for the right tool too. You guys, when you're reaching for that mag for your 1911 and you slap that one out, if you're indexing that mag with the base plate in the palm of your hand and the tip of the bullet, the curve of the magazine facing to your index finger. All you have to do is bring your index finger, the tip of your fingers to the bottom of the gun and push that up. It's kind of like, you know, bringing your hands together to pray or bringing your hands together to enfold your... it's... they work together like that. You know what I mean? And if you work that over and over, the base plate of that, it could be your Glock. It could be your 1911. It could be all of that Rossi out of South America. But the base plate in the palm of your hands, and you're indexing the curve of the magazine versus the flat of the back, and you just bring the tip of your fingers to the base of the side of your hand that's holding the gun and slide the mag in. And there's just another, you know, again, you're going to load an AR-15 different than you're going to load an AK-47, aren't you? And you're going to load a handgun different than that. I'd wanted to do that, Mark. It's just, you know, rolling up the right card out of the rollback. Yep. And again, guys, remember here, too, we've got a lot of Opportunities to practice what we're talking about here on the range go through it like we said the last couple of hours go through it by the numbers. Take the time walk each person in fact ideally an instructor in a small class everybody sit sit down watch the instructor. The instructor has everybody rise everybody perform the task step by step by step. And then when you're done, everybody will go from a dry fire to perhaps a training aid fire, which includes Aerosoft. That's perfect for pistol. And then move on to the real thing. And Don, hell, you can't even get a 1911 size frame, so you want to practice the .45, you can pre-practice, at least to get the basics down, so there are no errors made, larger safety factor. But everybody is on the upturn, or on the upswing, with regard to training. Okay, George We got something going on in the background there. We need to tame that down anyway We'll see we're gonna do here the way it sounds I kind of knew who that was now anyway not a problem listening But you gotta remember cover up the mic. I don't know why do I have to say that more than once? I know I don't Anyway, it has been a pretty busy week here. It's already Weapons Wednesday. Don't forget guys, we may get some rain tonight so everybody out there listening. You got anything that's got to be covered up or put under the weather? Yeah, better under cover. You better make sure you do it before the weather hits because it's a common. It's not an if, just a when. and we want to make sure that everything is secured. I got one or two little motorized pieces of equipment that I got put away. That'll be done as soon as I'm done with the program. I'll be running around like a checker with my head cut off. No I won't. I'll be systematically destroying the list of things to do. That's what we have to do with every activity we're involved in. Take advantage of and use all the time you have to the best of your ability people. Don't skimp. And try not to again fudge it. It's not that difficult a deal to come up with scheduling and planning to make things work. That's what we need to see happen. We've got to get into this mode because we're looking at a real... We're looking at the next real deployment. Everything plugs in and goes, well, not all of you will be participating, but you will be participating from a distance. And I don't want to hear any nonsense. Somebody going, wow, see, I just knew this was going to happen. Did you do anything to help? No, I didn't do anything to help because I'm sitting on my dinner horse and playing with a keyboard. Yeah, okay, well, fine. then don't lament or complain because you know there's going to be people coming out of the woodwork no matter what. Well this didn't go right or that didn't go right. Well really were you there? Well no I could. Well, me and you know. They're great people for lamenting, not for participating. And participating includes support, guys. Although we do have some good keyboard commandos that actually support the best they can. Oh, no, no, you know what I mean. I'm talking about the characters that right now, they're, you know, everybody's doing their part. But these are characters that'll sit off in the shadows, they won't do Jack, they'll backstab us from a dozen directions, and then all of a sudden come out and tell you all about how it should have been done. but never in their life will they be in any way shape or form participate not even with the keyboard okay you'll get emails from i have a bunch of these junk emails with these people to the and this is why it's the end And then of course it's six months later. No, this is why it's the end And then six months later I get another email by the way see I got some ancient emails I say for that reason and I've got like an ongoing history I should read them on the air, but I guess I could leave the name out, but it's And I've got three years worth you know now it doesn't take six months down. It's about every three months And then of course that goes by and it's like, well, uh, uh, uh, well, uh, uh, then they disappear until the next opportunity to describe how we're all gonna die. So stand around the corner between the sandwich port that says the end is near. Yeah, it's just around the corner. It's the name of the restaurant. It's right around the corner. The end is near. The end. That's the name of the restaurant. At the end of the universe. Hey, Checkers Guide, wait a minute. Restaurant at the end of the universe. Oh, man. Well, anyway, it's really cute here because, as we pointed out, a lot of equipment, a lot of gear problems. People have been asking questions, trying to deal with doctoring stuff up. If you're going to be training and you want some structural information, again, the idea behind this was to provide a database. You guys can undo them, copy them to your heart's content, and make your own. But if you need some PM manuals to help organize your unit at the fireteam level, the squad level, the unit level, We have everything there you need go to liberty tree radio dot 4 mg calm Www dot liberty tree radio dot 4 mg calm mark doesn't have to repeat everything in those manuals That's the reason we made them so that you can focus on that the basics and we can get on to other things doesn't mean we don't touch on a lot of the you know more technical basics, but the how-tos and what to do are in the manuals there in the Information base, there's no sense in re-inventing the wheel guys, it's already there. So take the time, plug it in, check it out and see what you can find that will be useful. I suggest the PM8, PM10s, also the anti-armor, colonial marine anti-armor manual and the rifle marksmanship series. The reason, those will bring you up to speed real quick with the basics to move a fireteam, a squad or a whole platoon. the or bigger but the uh... whole point here is that then go to the videos equipping one two and three and uh... also the night vision primer and the nbc primer those are the basics if you uh... pick up uh... those progressively you're going to have data a database that you can use to train a whole army if you want to and let somebody else do the talking it's that simple so we do have solutions we're not just complaining about problems uh... before we've ever done anything in particular from that end of the woods you need to you know cover go ahead Well, I'd like to distinguish you guys. There was a night vision video we made a good long time ago. It might have even been in the last millennium. Oh yes. That would be titled, pardon me? Oh yes, it was I think 98.99. Yeah, we called that the night vision primer primer, you know, if you want to put the English or highbrow version twist on it, the night vision primer. The second, the one that went out almost exclusively on a disc, you guys, it's a two disc set. That's the night vision field operations. It could just as well be called practice and application or performance. But again, you know, it's You watch the video, you're going to be head and shoulders above the guy who's just wandering around with a piece of night vision and he thinks he's the king of the world because he got this last week or last year and has been wandering around ever since. That goes back over to practice and training and you know we could talk about the difference but you know what Mark I think I heard a beat there. We might have a caller waiting, maybe we've got a listener but let's distinguish the difference. Who do we have? Call it, call it. Alright. Jump right in there caller. Okay, this is Bowe Winkle from Northern Idaho. I saw something today that I'm not too sure about. I was in Sandpoint today and I saw another roundabout in the roads. There's a bunch of them in the Coeur d'Alene and Baden area. And now another one popping up in Sandpoint. Is there something to be concerned about? There's a big big surface for health after the land and vehicles riding around it. But there's power lines which will be taken down in two hours. Am I just being paranoid or is this some European thing that anybody is doing in America? It's a stupid European thing that people aren't going to want for very long when they start having to deal with a combination of the ice, the snow, and also the other federal regulations that go along with lighting, etc. Because they started cropping up here in goofy land. We have Ann Arbor, Michigan. They showed up there first. Now we've got them on different spots on the exit ramps of US-23 northbound. We've got one in one of the subdivisions here in Dexter, Michigan. Oh, yeah, right now. Yeah, we do. We've got another in Dexter as a matter of fact. There's a couple of them and What's interesting they started out in odd spots like that. Oh, this would be so chic Except that you know for instance for all these especially on an arbor. We have all the eco freaks You know at every corner you have to have a light Each intersection has to be lit, so you have multiple intersections with the way this thing is set up, each corner. And instead of one single light over the intersection like they had before in what was basically two stop signs and a regular drive-through road because it was, and this is an exit ramp, okay, Rof, M14, the extension. This is the first place they put the stupid thing, and now there's 10 streetlights stop signs and extra signage has to be everywhere all telling you about how you need to merge because of course everything has to be explained to you you don't have brains to figure that out don't you know but what's cute is uh... the ones up on twenty three are I think my favorite where they're off the expressway the truck drivers found out real quick everybody's a chicken So they don't even slow down anymore all they do is beat the horn stomp on the gas and go through so they don't have to stop on the Offramps anymore or on the onramps they just barge I mean barge and everybody else is playing scatter dodge now these intersections were always busy before Now they're stupid busy and on top everything else the ambulances and this tells me something because before that area was you know It's got a hospital down the road, but now the ambulances and a wrecker truck hang by that intersection on both sides where they put these stupid turnarounds in, these circle drive-arounds. In other places, they're totally useless. Was the place where you had that drive-around, is it super busy there? Yeah, modestly busy and they just put a new grocery store right there. But there again, next to me, if the bar helicopters are coming to take people away, it'd be much more convenient parking, or land in a supermarket parking lot rather than there. Also, some of you used this road frequently. You've got a jockey around 80 feet around this who has continued to go straight or made a turn. It's just something that I ... It's a lot of places. When did they install this? How long ago? I haven't been in Transplanting for about three months, but it's been in about the last three months. So in this year though, so you see that's the same with all of these? Oh yeah. Yeah, it's the last year this goofy... Go ahead. Excuse me, the ones in Coeur d'Alene have been there for years and there's one north of San, I think it's Cholila, they put a big one in the main roads and that's a bugger when I used to go up the Gettle Falls. What's funny about this is that this is federal funding. I think that the whole thing is BS, Bush Obama money. These things started cropping up with all of the sham money under the table. Remember you've got parasites out there. that are pushing this BS over and over again from the Department of Transportation. It trickles down through the state, it goes to the counties and to the townships and so goofiness like this, it's not that it's an improvement, it's just another stupid program where somebody schmuck somebody else into it. Somebody read the latest article in some magazine. This is the biggest problem I have with most of this stuff. It's they read some article, it has nothing to do with reality, it was all supposition, it was all extrapolating from well in theory. And the other thing that gets me about this is just the idea that the system has worked. And our road system does mean we can't tweak things. But in this case, it is more than just a little inconvenience. It makes a great control point. It gives you an island already built in the middle of a lot of intersections and roads where you can plop equipment down and nothing can get by you. but you don't have to worry about setting up like diversionary gates or a lot of barriers. The road is already built for it. You can prefab a whole bunch of cookie cutter systems to create the arched barriers to secure or to channel the traffic even more once they go through an area like this, but that center island becomes the control pod. It becomes a place where your main gun station, you know, you can have a single, well, consider this, although you can do it with a cross intersection before, the idea is that you can plop equipment right in the middle with a, you know, for instance, a weapon with a turret, a weapon with a roof-mounted gun, and one gun covers all four points of the compass. without having to kind of fudge it sideways or angle or drive out in the road, they're already there. And I see that as more likely the scenario because it's, you know, again, it's a classic vertical control point. They'll even give us some elevation, throw it up a, you know, maybe throw a mobile erector up that goes two or three stories based on the length of the semi truck. And it just hydraulically lifts it up, drops it in place, they run their tow guides, and all of a sudden you've got, you know, an elevated platform to observe and use for fire control. You know, for to literally use a weapon to control the area. So that's one option. Well, these are slightly off the main road, more in the residential area. And yes, most of them do have a raised area in the middle, usually about three feet or so. Well, the ones here are quite large. The ones we have here off the expressway are large enough that easily you could put a house in the middle. That's how big. Yeah, that's about the size of these. If you'd knocked down the power lines, it would be just an ideal helicopter landing cab area. Just what I saw. So it's nothing to really be concerned about. It's just another yucky idea. It's basically first rule is waste of money. Somebody who has some politically correct company that has all quadriplegic homosexual Eskimos in charge just got a whole bunch of our cash for putting a BS program online. And you've got headhunters in the townships that do this too, or the counties. Right down there in Cochise County, I think a guy makes 117,000 a year just to go scam government projects. Look for stupid stuff that... It's like here in Dexter, we just had a whole bunch of pavement replaced. in the last three years and then all of a sudden we got obama money that came in now it's a stimulus money so did they fix the other parts of the road that needed to be fixed did they need the other parts that are literally having chunks coming about doesn't mean this road didn't hang out with was was perfect as they screwed up when they put in the first time but there are other parts of the road in the dexter that are far worse so what part did they replace the part they just replaced it was newer pavement So it's like okay, that makes no sense, but there's some criteria to this that this was the money scam. This is where they're milking that cow. What's funny is that they did another part of this as construction in the middle of town. It's a little project, nothing really big. But what's funny about it is it has the stimulus. You know, they have to put a sign, you know, so everybody goes, oh look guys, the stimulus money. Well, they did put the sign up, but instead of down on the main drag where this construction crosses, They took the sign which they had to put up, but they didn't want to admit. They're trying to make it look like, look what we're doing for you. Oh, we found money. And it's our idea that the local township committee, the Commissars, did this. No. If you go to the end of the middle of the neighborhoods, facing the one or two houses, that's all that's left on the end of the road. In the middle of this one residential neighborhood, at the end of the road, so to speak, that's how they faced the sign which they had to post. Nobody sees it because nobody drives there. And we're not for the fact that I kind of use that route sometimes. I drove from the other direction. I'm driving back towards and through the construction late at night. And I look up and it's like, oh, so that's what this is. Oh. And I think that's the majority of the stuff showing up in the last 12 months to 14 months as far as the drive around circles. There's a bunch of other fencing going up and a lot of it, almost all of it is police state mindset. I think that the turn arounds, the circle arounds, the way they are, the go arounds, are more for like a vertical control point deployment. There's still something to watch. The thing is to pay attention to where they are in the public areas. in the private areas is because well i could call this act it's uh... it's looks so uh... you know the unique in so far out all monday so we must have it because it is different not because it makes sense but because you can put a little finger on say i have one of those things like the heaven europe on a good as like for sure That's exactly the attitude. Oh, you see on the front, the three-point is now turning pretty trendy. And oh, another thing about that roundabout is it just didn't put asphalt in concrete. It's brick. Oh! It is 4x6 brick to be laid and I'm sure that doubled the... Oh, it not doubled and tripled. And here's the other thing. Have you ever had to drive on brick in the winter? Oh yes, we did this in Duluth, Minnesota. I was asking my answer on this. Great sound, the police, the main drag to town gets brick. And Duluth gets snow like you do in Michigan. And they put brick on a main in 20 years. That might be paved over by now. Well, the thing is in Ann Arbor, they've got a lot of the red brick that they recovered from the secondary roads over in the off main street on the north end of town. And those are notorious roads when it's wet because the paving brick is glazed, guys. It doesn't have any adhesion quality all when there's moisture. In fact, you hit the brakes, you've got to be thinking, and a lot of people don't. But then when the ice comes, yee-haw! It's a skating rink. Oh, yeah, so I can see that turn. I'd like to get back to weapons Wednesday. Thanks for clearing up that concern. Appreciate that. Thank you, sir. And again, it is Weapons Wednesday, by the way. And Don, we're almost at the bottom of the hour. Yes, we are. There we go. So I'll tell you what, if you could, before we're not going to wait till the end of the day or the end of the hour here. Okay. We've had several people that have called up actually, and we had a couple people call in the program and worry about optics, but specifically also interested in night vision. So I would ask that if you could go over what it is that you presently have there, because we still have a couple units left. Those can be out and down the road for the deployment, guys. But Don, you can pretty well access anything else, and why not go to a friend if you're going to pick up night vision? Go ahead. Thank you, Mark. You guys, if you're looking for night vision, here comes the phone number. You can reach me via the phone at 231-796-8458. Again, 231-796-8458. As you mentioned, first generation, second, third, even fourth generation. But you know, it's a big pile of pop bottles that could go in a lot of different directions when you start talking about fourth generation. As example, one gun site in the fourth generation, you could back up one, go to third and get a gun site, and probably a viewer too. Okay, now that might be a little bit of a stretch, but it's a basic truism. So, you know, it's good to have the latest and the greatest and the bestest and all the other things, and to be their firstest, you know, that's, oh, now I'm talking, I think that's a quote from a southern general mark, to be their firstest with the mostest. with the mostest. There's a couple of altered English words there, but when you think about it in a military term, it's a very practical thing to be their firstest with the mostest. If you're lacking in the night vision department, you want to know, if you want to ask me a question, you guys, you can reach me at 231-796-8458. I'm just, as evidenced now, I'm just a 19th, just a 20th century guy here. Email is This is a high form of communication from a telephone connected to a studio. Give me a call if you want, but we can get first, second, third generation viewers. People tube monoculars. They would also be called viewers in one, two, three power goggles. Most of your goggles are going to come in one power, but have the option to find a binoculars, three or five power. which you know you can turn kind of goggles into binoculars, some of them, but I could go on and on about, you know, how about something that will hang onto your helmet, hang onto your head, your mount on the top of your AR, you know, the flat top or the handle if you want to put a rail on that, and mount behind your daylight, your ACOG or your Trigicon that was mentioned as mentioned earlier in the day. You mount this behind a one-power device and well, that one-power is going to move a whole lot of light through it and it's second door. And you can kind of chug right along there come the daytime, take that piece off. Take the night vision device off and use the, you know, the daylight is mounted forward. It'll go out on a long rail. You guys have seen pictures of it, but you know, we had that call earlier in the day, Mark, of someone who wanted to know the difference, what should I do with this M1 and this other gun. Well, you've got a couple of guns and you know one is like considerably longer range the other might be of a high cyclic rate, you know, because see that M1 magazine into the other gun and keep your daylight sights on the M1 for good long-range shooting and you might want to pick up a spoke in order to, you know, that'd be a good thing because all you're looking at is like, you know, the size of someone's forehead and you know, maybe those are eyes underneath it. sometimes it's hard to confirm at a good range with the naked eye but once you know it's there you can hit it with your naked eye and the iron sights once you know what to shoot to commit that gun to the date and long range and generally it's it's a gimme that your nighttime range is your encounters are going to be at shorter range and you might want a higher capacity of you know bullets to send down range you know a large stick or even a drum magazine would be good you know underneath something with night vision on it for encounters, you know, of the bad kind. But I could go on and on, but I think we heard a beat there, so I'll say that you guys, if you want to talk to me after this hour about night vision, reach me at 231796. So good job beat company on that, sight and viewer in that second. So if you want to talk to me about night vision after this hour, sometimes throughout the day, you can reach me at 231796, because I think we've got a caller who do we have on the line. H.G. in Arizona. Hey. You said Dave on the other line? Go ahead, Abe. Abe, you're first. Thank you, sir. I appreciate that. Mark was kind of a caller earlier asking about what types of firearms would be best for the desert. I can't say that there's any one weapon that's best. I'm in a situation and the terrain changed so rapidly that there's no one end-all, be-all perfect gun. You talk to one guy, he's going to say it's 22. There's another guy who's going to say, oh, get a black powder rifle. Everybody's been having this debate for centuries, so here's my take on this. If someone can afford the additional expense of a 760x51 or a 308 type battle rifle, an NDR, say an M1A, and they can afford the extra weight that they'd have to carry to carry MF ammo, by all means, if you're confident and competent with that firearm, bring it. You'll find that most of our teams are a mix. There will be some guys with AKs, there will be some guys with ARs, there might even be a guy in there with an SKS, but every team benefits from having one guy with a long range arm. One of our teams, and you have a five-county, the long range shooter carries a PSL in 7.62x54, and he's very good with it. It doesn't matter so much what you choose as how good you are with it. You have to be confident and competent with that firearm. You have to be able to hit with it at the distances that that weapon is capable of being employed at. There was another question that came along about what types of weapons we are seeing in the opposition. I thought it would be appropriate to mention a little bit about that on Weapons Wednesday. In the border areas, we are seeing Well, basically everything you would see at the Pecara Market in downtown Mogadishu. We've seen our PKs, we've seen PKMs, we've seen AKs of every flavor and variety. We have documented videotape evidence from the trail cameras of these guys carrying MAC-10s. We know for a fact that the Mexican military was issued FNFALs at one time. G3H and Ks, both of which were select fire. We know that right now, special forces in the Mexican Army are being issued FX-05 fire serpents, rifles, which are basically a knockoff of the G36 from HK. We've seen pictures of the AR-15s and M249 saws that have been used by groups like the Zetas. These guys don't have any problem getting weapons. If you saw that email that was going around a couple of weeks ago, you know that they have RPG7s, RPG2s, M203 grenade launchers, and 79 grenade launchers. One interesting thing that has come up is that more and more of these guys that are doing the runs with lightweight loads, like they're not carrying the big heavy packs, or in some cases they are carrying the big heavy packs. They had gone carrying the FM57 pistol with the SS190 rounds. As you may recall, the SS190 rounds were banned from being sold in the United States because the ATF classified them as armor piercing. For some strange reason, the drug cartels do not have a problem obtaining these. They'll get the FN-57 pistols, they'll get the SS-190 rounds with the armor-piercing projectiles, and they'll get the 20-round magazines and they can hit targets at 100 yards with a pistol. Because that's what the FN-57 was designed to do. So, you're seeing a wide variety of armaments being deployed along the border. Every flavor, every shape, every style. AK-47s, AK-74s. A lot of Soviet block weapons, but a lot of converted AR-15s. Where they're getting these, some of them, about 7% of them, probably come from the United States, but the vast majority of them are manufactured overseas. And they say that 90% are traced back to the United States. Well, that's only 90% of the ones that have serial numbers, because those are the only ones they can trace. Don't believe the hill to beast lie about all the weapons coming from American gun stores. They aren't buying the RPG-7 grenade launchers from the gun stores in America. On another note, the Barrett .50 cal semi-automatic rifles with the 10 round magazines are very, very deadly at ranges that we cannot even approach with standard small arms. We've seen the 50 BMGs in both the Barrett semi-auto and the M2 full-auto being deployed on the tops of pickup trucks and Humvees. Now some of these Humvees are painted in the same colors that the Mexican Federal military uses. Now, why these guys are coming across the border and smuggling dope? Well, we all know why. That's because of the money. So if you've got enough money, you can buy an army in Mexico. That's what we're dealing with. And thank you for the time, gentlemen, and I'll hand it over to Dave. No, HT, stay there. HT? Yes. Steve? You're talking about having the patrols with a high-powered rifle. And I know Mark has been mentioned it too. And Venus Weapons Wednesday, I'm going to bring it up here too. This is a serious issue. One man of every patrol should be carrying a high capacity 12 gauge shotgun especially night time Though in night patrol I recommend two to three men with high capacity 12 gauge shotguns because at night you're not going to be able to see and if you've got something that can put a lot of lead downrange and you come under fire you sure can suppress that fire real fast with a 12 gauge And that should be something to consider that somebody should be in a patrol team with a shotgun to be able to suppress incoming fire if you came under attack. That's a very good point. And I think we're probably underrepresented in the shotgun category. Usually we only have the guy who's walking point be the one that carries a shotgun. So we have sort of an unwritten rule. that if you choose to carry the 12 gauge, you're volunteering for point. Well, I'd usually put the man second or third with a shotgun and then a point man usually with an AK-47 because he's the guy that's going to get shot at first is usually the point man and if the guy behind him has got the 12 gauge, he can immediately return massive fire from wherever the fire came from while everybody else takes position. And your point is well taken. The front man has a shotgun and he goes down. Now you've lost your return fire because a 12-gauge shotgun with 9 12-round capacity is like having an M60 because you're putting 200 to 350 rounds of 30 cal ammunition downrange in about 5 to 8 seconds. I agree. The shotgun is very underrepresented in most of our units, but keep in mind that the Arizona Citizens Militia is composed of independent county units. The only time that the units come under the command and control of the state headquarters is when we assemble them for joint training or joint missions. So the rest of the time, these county units develop their own SLPs for what types of weapons that they're going to be using. HQ does, of course, set the standards for communications equipment, for ranking insignia on the uniforms and what types of uniforms, and for the conduct of training. But still, within the guidelines and the vast leeway that the counting units are allowed, you might have one unit where the shotgun is very well represented and another one where it is not. What we're hoping One of the things that we're hoping to come out of this operation this fall is a better grasp of the actual situation on the border by some of our county unit leaders who have not been to the border because they are serving in county units that are well north of the line. So this will be a learning experience for a lot of people and I will definitely bring up that point during the leaders' recon that we need to see more 12-gauge shotguns in each of the patrol units. High capacity, 9 12 round capacity is recommended. Usually the Remington 870 or the Remington 1100 being able to have rapid fire because it's the only thing you can combat a full automatic AK-47 or other machine guns. You can't combat it with a semi-automatic weapon. You have to be able to suppress incoming fire and that has That has the best fire power for a short period of time. But it gives the rest of the team to take cover, take position, and when the guy is out of shots, he goes down and reloads. Absolutely. One of the items that I proposed with my unit in Yavapai County was that we start building the AR-15s with the ultra heavy barrel light machine gun upper that is available from Blackthorn Products. I actually bought one of those and put it onto a standard AR-15 lower. Now it was of course designed originally for the Dymico fill-in LMG during the time from the transition from the M60 to the M249 saw. What they did was they made a really heavily reinforced M16 AR-15 upper with an ultra-heavy barrel on it and a built-in bipod and a carry handle. The thing is a beast. It's very heavy. But if you combine that with a standard AR-15 lower and something like the 100-round or 75 or 90-round drum magazines that are made for the AR-15, you've got an excellent squad support weapon in this. It uses the same magazines as the standard AR-15. Granted, I would love to be able to deal with PKMs and ARCHICAs in place of, or better yet, an M60 machine gun, but we're doing what we can with what we have available to us under the law. Over. The equal machine gun is getting, as Mark has always recommended too, is the with an AK-47, getting the 75 or 120 round Russian drums. That gives you the fire power equal to something of greater capacity because then you have somebody that doesn't have to reload again to suppress fire. Right. I happen to like the Betascnags, what I don't like about them is the price. But there's a company that's making a knockoff of the Betascnag and you can pick these up from BoTak Tactical for $140 delivered. And I looked at one, I ordered one, I looked at it right next to my Beta C Mac. The only difference I could see was the logo on the side. These are Korean knockoffs of the original Beta C Mac. Probably a contract, right? Yeah. Go ahead Dave. Price was right. Go ahead Mark. Go ahead Dan. What most people don't realize is they pulled the 60s and then they wanted to pull the M16A1s and give the Corps all M16A2s. Which is a wonderful idea, except the problem is they extracted all of their fully automatic weapons from the inventory since the A2 can only do semi and three round burst. So they said, oh, oh, oh, we screwed up. Yeah, you did. Because they couldn't get the saw weapons fast enough. So they came up with this solution, taking standard M16A1s and adding this beefed up receiver. a bunch of other components to help stabilize it were built to include other add-on parts but the basic was out there initially after they ended the program some of them showed up in the system as overruns from the contractor and people kind of grabbed them and played with them well now they've actually got them back into a limited production I believe with the existing inventory of parts and some other material that came from overseas issue and they brought them back into the country. So you can get an exact copy or at least the original with other parts of the supplement saw, which was the equivalent to say a BAR, it was magazine fed not belt fed. And still a good solution to offer weight girth, it'll keep the weapon on target. In semi-auto it makes it a very stable, stable weapon system and of course You know, again, familiarize yourself with it, take a look, see if it's an option, it'll work with you. The other consideration is there are some belt-fed, of course heavier than SIN, but belt-fed semi-automatic rifles out there right now. You'll find them laying around, in fact there's even a knockoff with the M60, there's a Browning 1919 copies. While they aren't necessarily something you're going to be schlepping through the woods with, they are something to consider for fixed position support or for vehicle support. because there are makes it a mobile platform bring the thing in and still again if the guy has a good finger the person on the other end won't be able to tell the difference three to five three to five three to five good finger and a hair trigger that's right well exactly pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop pop because the automatic rifleman is supposed to break down his fire so he doesn't cook that barrel out. It doesn't mean that he can't lay on the trigger when he has to under a certain condition, but the discipline shooter knows that he's going to regulate his fire and conserve his ammunition for critical moments. So there's a bunch of different solutions, and again, it's a matter of wallet as much as anything. We need to keep that in mind, too. Dave, go ahead, please. I know you've got more. What I normally do, HT, my favorite for doing patrol is the SK. I have a Yugoslavian one. I carry it on patrol with a 50 round mag and in the chest pouch carry 30 round mags. But that 50 rounder is for suppression of fire. If you come under assault, you don't want to have to be changing out mags quickly. You want to be able to return fire and be able to secure a position. At nighttime, I prefer carrying the Remington 12 gauge, particularly with nine upwards of 12 round capacity because you can get the extender tube for either one of the Remington's. And both are very, very effective. That is what I prefer and the reason for the SK is that I have a quick mount 9 power scope that also goes on that SK which you can carry your backpack. If you want to use that sucker for sniper position, it is quickly easily to be converted over for that type of operation. Those are the two that I would do and they are cheap. The SK is still cheap out there compared to a lot of these other fancy weapons and very effective fire power. It sounds familiar. If you go to maliciousinfo.info, it's malicious with an S, and click at the bottom of the page, click on malicious, and look at the page, it comes up. I wonder who's at the top of the page. You're at the top. Maybe Arizona because it started alphabetically. Oh, okay. It better be. Alaska is above you. Yeah, it's alphabetical. Thank you for getting my help, Seth Dave. Okay, it's the largest list of... Alabama, Alaska... It should be at the top, it's an A word. Yeah, but Alabama and Alaska are going to be before it. Yeah, they're going to be before it. I have a trivia question for you gentlemen. I have to do this today, we're almost at a time, but I've got a fantastic trivia question. Today is 7-7-10, July 7th, 10. Can any of you tell me who was born in 1940? A famous man born in 1940. Ringo Starr. Thank you, Mike. Dude, Ringo, it's for you. You mean Richard Starkey? Guess what, gentlemen? We're getting old. That's no secret. Ringo Starr turned 70 years old today. That tells me gentlemen, we are getting awfully old because how many people can even imagine that Ringo Starr is 70? You mean now he sings that song When I was 64? Yes! When I was 64. No, I'll just switch to 84. When I'm 84. Well, you know the interesting thing about that one too is yeah think about it It's like Ringo he moved like he was a seven-year-old man when he was 19 guys You ever see him move fast? Well, he didn't help I guess but otherwise it seemed to me like he was just kind of there I'm Ringo. What do you want? You know? That's right kind of like yeah, he's the Beatles version of the he's a diesel Beatles counterpart to Ozzy Osbourne except Ozzy originally had a lot of motion It's just the drugs to kick in that's all And Paul McCarthy this year turned 69. I think it was back in May he turned 69. So it tells you we're getting awfully old. He's still a spring chicken then. Well I'll tell you what, anything else Dave? That's all I have gentlemen. I just thought that was trivial weather mentioning. Thank you, Dave. You're welcome. God bless. We're running right up to the top here, and I've got a couple of questions I want to pose in a way that might be kind of diplomatic here. In relation to a number of calls I've taken between 5 o'clock and now, Mark, the first HD would be, if I'm on my way, do-de-oh-do, and I've got my .50 caliber, and I've got my shotgun, and I've got my SK in the trunk, and I stop there at the local store, Where's directions? Could you tell me how to get to XYZ and maybe their eyes get big and they say, oh you're going over there to meet up with that militia? You know where I'm going with that. How are we being, if I would one be received on the way in? The second layer of that question is, what would happen if I was stopped by Sheriff Joe and I told him, man I'm going down here to reinforce the border sheriff. Just let me get on my way here. Well, to answer the first part of your question, we're not advertising where we're going to be. We're only handing out the coordinating information to people who volunteer to come join us. Is that an absolute guarantee that we won't be greeted there by hordes of protesters? Of course not, but we're doing our best to keep it off the airwaves. It's not something we're publicizing or broadcasting, I should say, across the mainstream mainstream uh... just because they know where are our assembly point is going to be doesn't tell them where before operating based circle righty yes we're going to meet in tucson we're going to go from that well you have to show up to find out that information uh... answer the second part of your question uh... watch the go back to first party question what would happen if you did have somebody how to get the motion meeting probably get somebody volunteering to come with you to help you find it. People in Arizona, so wait a minute, I'll get my hat and my gun. People in Arizona are fed up with this. I mean, just look at the amount of support that SB 1070 has. The support inside Arizona is like 70%. Not just inside Arizona, but the support outside Arizona for that is incredible too. Yeah, it's all over the place. Yeah, if you did ask somebody for directions, I knew what you were talking about, they'd probably come and help you find it and stay with you. Are you going to run into a few knuckleheads that have something to say about that? Yeah, but they're the minority now. The second half of your question, what happens if I tell Sheriff Joe? Well, Sheriff Joe's probably just going to look the other way. What happens if you tell Sheriff Babu in Pinal County, he's probably going to wet himself. If you tell the sheriff of Pima County, who was the only sheriff in Arizona to publicly state that his deputies would not enforce the new law, that's going to affect him July 29th, he would not only probably wed himself, he would definitely wed himself and then have a litter of little yellow lizards. We're expecting open hostility from the Pima County Sheriff's Office. So then he'd call for reinforcements. Well, they never go down there, now. Well, they said it's too dangerous. Yeah, but if we can get them to go down there because we're there we'll have to coffee brewing Donuts just remember guys boxes of donuts you have to have them on standby you can bait them anywhere you want with those Worth it worth the time. Thank you HD. God bless And God bless the Republic We shall prevail ladies and gentlemen the Empire is on the run But we are beer on the marks both day and night. We are the sons, yes we are the sons, the sons of Liberty We were born for every tree, thanks to a tale of hyper boys, beat the Liberty tree It's a tall old tree and a strong old tree And we are the sons, yes we are the sons, the sons of Liberty Save the price, they're ashy-borns Always save the tyrant's feet Never give up the struggle, war in spite of the liberty treat It's a tall old tree and a strong old tree And we are the sons, yes we are the sons, the sons of liberty Stand for the rights of man and against all tyranny And the lives of freedom boys, I am a liberty treat Thanks for watching! You broadcast. On a North Dakota road, February 83 That's when the war began Where two federal marshals died For the sake of tyranny They both would underestimate The courage of one man Homest, last, wish may fail The gates of hell shall never prevail Because he gave his life for me I shall not fear adversity, and we shall all meet at heaven's door, because all is there in love, in love and war. When all was said and done, and the verdicts handed down, someone had to take the fallen with Gordon's son, who was wounded in the fray. Please won't you pray for your recall? Some stink in jail, free through faith we shall prevail They say all is fair in the land of the poor, Christian blood has been shed And though these tents of fish they knelt, The gates of hell shall never prevail, Because He gave His life for ease. I shall not fear adversity, And we shall all meet at heaven's door, Because all is fair in love, in love and more. In love and war This was not a way to pay down the debt. This is a trick on the American people. A new world order! How can you have a house without a gun? Tons are toys! They're for family protection, hunting dangerous or delicious animals, keeping the king of England out of your pay! Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem. Is the problem. Where's the hint for you geniuses out there? A-dang! A-dang! A-dang! A-dang! A-dang! A-dang! A-dang! A-dang! A-dang! A-dang! A-dang! A-dang! A-dang! A-dang! A-dang! A-dang! A-dang! A-dang! A-dang! A-dang! A-dang! A-dang! A-dang! A-dang! A-dang! A-dang! A-dang! A-dang! A-dang! A-dang! A-d Well send roadblocks everywhere! A new world air, a new world air. I'm not gonna stand for this. I'm gonna call the newspapers, the TV stations, the security stations, everybody! What kind of video show is this? Shut back down and shut yourself! It's time to dance and get a new dance, get a new video game on it. Another something completely different. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. This is the Dutch Jones Radio Program. Turned out this little bit. We come to you Monday through Friday on the Dutch Jones Radio feed off of DutchJones.tk and Monday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday on Liberty Tree Radio, LibertyTreeRadio.4mg.com. For our second hour, we join on with them and we're very happy to be here. I am Dutch Jones coming to you from the Church of Koea in Central California. California is a completely different state. It is more like our Colorado or Kansas. We do have our long haired hippie do's. We also have more good old boys and just good old core American value type folks. A lot of Mennonites here, a lot of Baptists here. A lot of confederates here, a lot of people don't realize, especially Tulare County, I went with the South during the War of Federal Aggression, the first War of Federal Aggression, now that we're in the second War of Federal Aggression. But we come to you trying to share with you our militant Christian worldview. 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