July 7, 2010
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Mark Koernke discussed firearms handling, tactical shooting techniques, and preparedness on this July 7, 2010 episode. The show featured extensive technical discussion of rifle platforms (M1A, AR-15, .308 vs. 5.56 caliber), shooting from vehicles, hearing protection in confined spaces, muzzle brake effects, and magazine change drills with emphasis on muscle memory and repetitive training. A caller asked for advice on selecting optics and rifles for border security work. The episode also covered preparedness topics including food storage, supplies for vulnerable populations like infants, and community support during potential collapse scenarios.
- m1a rifle
- ar-15
- .308 caliber
- 5.56 ammunition
- hearing protection
- muzzle brake
- magazine change drills
- muscle memory
- tactical shooting
- vehicle defense
- border security
- preparedness
- food storage
- night vision
- eotech acog optics
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Again hey, seventh day of July, you know not one of you out there looks three days over a hundred rather 234 years old. A seventh day of July 2010. We could run in a number of different directions. Earlier in the day I was talking about slide guns and wheel guns and the differences and the trust thereof. Plenty of people love their wheel gun and there's plenty of people that swear by their Glock. I'm just doing that to patch up some wounds there you guys because I kind of beat up Glocks earlier in a couple of different ways. Some of them may have got a safety and if you're not careful and if you're an ATF agent climbing the ladder there you might just shoot yourself in the lake. Or if you decided to lay it up against the bad guys noggin, well if you got one keep it. If you don't, you might pick one up some day from somebody from a far distant land that came here to impose their will upon you. Now you know, I would say that, and I'm going to key on that for a little bit because while we sat We talked about sitting in a car here a while back on a weapons Wednesday and talked about bringing up a video and I sat with this person, a particular person today in the car and we worked out some things and maybe within a month or so we'll be starting to put some things on the video so that we'll be able to offer up doing the car so to speak, you know, while you're driving along, you know, far better than what Hollywood would show you what to do. Oh, you know, hit the ejection seat or open the door and push them out. That can work, but you know, there's other things to do. So, you know, I do that in order that I put up at the calendar and the next month or so saying that this is one way to, if I have something I think I've got, I'm just going to keep it in my mind and I don't tell any. Sometimes it formants and sometimes it works out pretty good. Now, this is an overall thought here, you guys. I'm certain every one of you experiences this. Well, you might want to move on it and never really vocalize it and you know here I'm making a commitment here I'm saying that well within about a month We should be starting to work on and it shouldn't take but a few hours Maybe a couple of days a few hours out of a couple of days then we'll have a what the dark kind of video writing it down pretty good Don here. I got a question How am I sounding to you? Pardon me. How well do I sound to you? Oh you're real. You're weak You sound, you know, you're off in a distance, but I have to give my volume isn't overpowering. How about that? Is that better? I know. Okay, I'm on the mic that Dad would normally be on. Dad's on my mic. And one, two, three, four. One, two, three, four. For some reason, we only have these problems as we start to get up on the air with the machine. Well, no, I changed something. Well, I actually changed more than one thing. Yesterday we changed the mics and I changed the power supply for this thing. I had to get in and there was a short I fixed that, so now we've got power through the back port, so now we're running directly off the wall instead of a 9 volt battery. Hopefully that's going to make a huge difference. In fact, the guys in the chat room, if they can give us some feedback, let us know how we're sounding. On a Lawrence Walk Note and a 1 and a 2 and a 3 and a 1. Turn off of the bubble machine. It is a live radio. We use all of our listeners as a sounding board. You're supposed to do that. It's radio. Ping. One ping only. One ping only. So anyway, I'll go ahead, on that note real quick here with the cars, we've talked about this before, we actually have somebody who might let us borrow a couple of clunkers that are going to the crusher. We'll find out more about that, so you never know, we could actually do some shooting through the car outbound just to teach people about what happens and doesn't happen. People make mistakes and think things work in certain ways and they don't. It is amazing how much protection safety glass gives you initially. Keyword is initially. This is something that was addressed years and years ago when they were talking about body armor. Now that's why I like MBR's main battle rifles because you see with most of the light weapons today, vehicle penetration is a problem getting in there and if somebody does anything to modify the vehicle even a little bit, vehicle penetration is almost non-existent with all the wood chuck rifles. On the other hand, weight goes through the door, goes through whatever's inside, goes out the other side and finds something else to hit. Grossly overpowered, Don. Oh my goodness, .30-06 is the same way. Outbound, it's really important in that, let's say you have to shoot through something to get out, you know, on the way out. Well, with a heavier caliber, always you have more energy once it breaks through the material it has to fight its way through to get to what you're shooting at. So that's another consideration whenever you're dealing with certain arms. I'm sorry, go ahead, please, Don. Oh, thank you, though. Again, we'll run this out and we'll run inside the car. are things to do. And as mentioned, it was a week or two ago, we talked about positioning your side arm in the car or where it is upon you, you know, your belt, your holster under your arm, what what position would be best for you to sit in the car as far as to respond and you know, if even delegating a window, you know, it might not be the window you sit next to. We'll talk about that in a video you guys because the threat might not be coming from your side. Now you're going to have to be shooting across someone perhaps. You hope that that person trusts you enough with a gun. The other thing I'd like to before we get off of this subject because this is kind of a future thing and I was talking about writing things down and making plans. I want to continue on that thought line. But before we get off of this subject you guys, have you ever discharged now, this might sound like a stupid question, but have you ever shot your gun off in the house? Have you ever shot a gun off in a car? I know there's a poacher out there listening and he's saying, yeah man, I took me a nice deer three years ago and that little .22, it ringed my ears even with the receiver of the gun inside the car and the barrel of the .22 rifle outside of the window. is going to be a bit of a report, but a handgun going off inside of a car, you guys, is an extremely loud short duration event. Extremely loud being the key there. One of the things, much like a pilot, the Ford G-suits were invented, you guys, one of the things you can do, a pilot would kind of like try to tighten up his abdomen to keep the blood from flowing into his legs as he's pulling a high G turn, you know, particularly with his feet to the outside of the turn. Well, one of the things you can do in a, you know, It's a confined area in order that it's not going to be 100%. You're not going to walk away with this 100% hearing that you had before if you're shooting a gun in a car or in a small room, a closed environment. Guns are real loud in those areas and your ears take beating real quick in a confined space with a gun. But one thing you can do, much like the cannon ear you see, the guys standing around the heavy hollettesers, they cover their ears. the other thing they do, Mark, they stand there with their jaw open, don't they, to balance the pressure? Yes. They cover their ears and they stand there with their jaw open to balance the pressure on the insides of their eardrums, you guys. Otherwise, they're going to lose hearing at a rather rapid rate. Now, these days, we do things like deploy ear muffs onto the guys' noise-canceling electronic ear muffs and a crew member, just like, hey, pass me this, or hey, you got a light, or, oh, here comes the student, or whatever, you know, left for. In the confines of our One thing you can do is, there it comes you guys, you can open your mouth. Almost like you're yawning and glunt. You're shooting a gun in the air because it kind of affects your hearing. Now if someone else is shooting the gun inside the car you're in, inside a car a gun is really loud. And you're not going to know when that is going. You have to be, either you do the bonsai scream as you're reaching for the gun or opening the door to move the gun. And I just wanted to mention Well, one of the things here again, as you pointed out, is noise cancellation or noise protection. One of the reasons it's not really a big deal to be wearing earplugs under certain conditions, because guys, after the first few rounds, go off close to your head. As far as weapons going off, if you have no earring protection, don't worry. That ringing noise you hear will be with you for a while. Yeah, and it has density to cancel out pretty much everything else that's going on in the immediate for the immediate future. So ear protection really isn't going to hurt anything and not going to hamper what's going on. You're still going to hear the barking that's taking place if somebody is shouting. You're still going to hear the weapons going off. It's going to dampen the initial shockwave. It's going to hamper the primary pulse from getting to the ear and doing damage initially, which is what to what happened that's why you hear that ring sound literally it's like so you they rang your gourd It literally has slapped the ear system, your hearing system, and it's going into culture shock. Oh my god, what did you do to me? And it's the way it protects itself too because it actually does shut down part of the system so that in a way, the body responds mechanically to what happens in its specific environment. Sound, touch, smell, also with any number of other injuries that take place. You all know this. Well, that's an injury. And so for that reason, when it takes place, the body has density to flood material to the area. This, of course, hampers or restricts. In other words, swells the tissue so that the channels that take in the sound are reduced in size. That's why the swelling's taking place. Now, on the other hand, that swelling's not good to cause a discomfort in other ways, but it's there for a purpose. Think about it. How does the sound get to where the sensitive parts are? Ah, that's right. So again, you can kind of modify that in a different direction before it does tissue damage. Why not simply come up with a system or use something to reduce that or to at least again buffer the primary sound. I've had that happen with, you know, like we've always talked about 50s, Don. I think I can remember it quite well. 1983, we had a battery of 50 calibers that we were firing at extreme range. and for whatever reason, everybody's distracted, you're all trying to get stuff done. It was a hasty deployment and we're throwing the guns down, we're putting everything in place, everybody's doing their part and for whatever reason the line officer prematurely gave the order to fire. And because of that, several people, including myself, well I had one ear plug in but I didn't have the other ear plug in. And that's that bark sharp crack slap board to the side of the head where you go, oh what the oh yeah That's not gonna happen again. That's not gonna happen again You remember that, you're right. That's something that you file that and it's immediate index on the roll out, on the roll out, roll index there. That's one of the ones that comes up real quick. It's like because of that you think, before we get to the range, the earplugs are going in right away or the earmuffs are going down right away and maybe even the face shield and depending on what else you got kicked up and you know around you if you were near that muzzle when the time came or to the side of the You've got to remember what it is, with these compensators there's an angle deflection of blast and it's not what everybody thinks side to side. That's not all just noise. Yeah, and that's one of the things... It's high pressure. That's one of the things that people miscalculate. You've got to remember that when you're deploying these 50s, consider that muzzle flash. Patriot surviving the coming collapse. He did a good job of expressing that, both in how to understand, and Don, we've talked about this with a .50 caliber in the field too, the idea that you're going to have a muzzle flash, a little bigger with a .50 cal, but also because of that pressure, we've got problems around us on the ground, don't we? Oh, if you're shooting across grass, you guys, with a Barrett, the standard Barrett, uh... recoil reducer, you know, the muzzle brake, or very much the same layout, the armolite gun that diverts most everything to the side, or with one of Rock McMillan's, looks like it came from the jet propulsion laboratory, developed, and there's a reason why it looks like it was developed in the jet propulsion laboratories. Again, I repeat, there's a reason why. It was. It was. You guys, when you lay that down across grass, you're going to find that if you bring the gun up just enough to see across the grass and sight the target, eventually you're going to lay the grass down on either side of the muzzle brake and down in front of the muzzle itself. When you walk away, anybody that comes upon that scene and knows what they're looking at is whether they're looking for it or not, they're going to see something. But if they know what they're looking at, they're going to know that that was a gun placement there. That was a hide, so to speak. Now, if you're shooting across snow, you're going to create little clouds of snow rising around you. If you're shooting across grass and dirt that were eventually pretty quick that first three shots, you blow away the grass. Now you're creating dust. One thing's going to happen in the desert, you guys, only it's going to be dust, it's going to be sand, it's going to be junk that's in the air, and the muzzle. One of the ways to say for this is to, if you've got nothing but dirt moist in the air in front of you, another way, which would be if you can come up with a good camouflage, just simply tap down in front of the muzzle and each side of the brake, one single tarp. There's something else, I wanted to go back and ruminate on it. But you know what I did, Mark, one day I walked over here, well actually I got out of the car and then I walked over because you know sometimes living here in the country things are pretty far apart, there's no excuse. I got out of the car and I walked over to the dumpster there at the carpet store and they had a big roll of that padding there and I I looked and I figured, well, how much do I need? And I'd moved this one roll and I walked away with another roll of padding. And they even rolled it back up around one of those cardboard cores. So it was pretty convenient for me. And I stuffed it in the trunk and I came home. And I laid it out there on the garage floor and I put a chalk line on it and I went cut and it snipped. And I went down to the local Walmarts. And the Wal-Mart there, they still pretty much do have a good selection of cloth on a bolt. When you're talking about cloth on It's just one of those, or tubes crushed flat. You can get some pretty good, maybe not, but you can get free color and you can get zebra camo and you can get with white and kind of off, you can get that urban camo. Well, they didn't have at that time any of that nice winter camo. So I purchased, you know, when you buy off a boat, you guys, you buy a yard, you really get two yards wide. So if you buy a yard, Well, you get two yards. So what you do is you buy like three yards. Now you've got like six yards. Ooh, golly gee. Now, you go and get the, you think, hmm, that's my good summer camo right there. And you look over here and wow, there's a whole bulk of that winter. And I couldn't find winter at the time. So it's a whole other story we talked about a long time ago. The other side of my shooting, Matt, is winter camo. Oh no, no, no. It's urban camo. But you know what, you lay that flat out on the snow and you walk 100 or 200 yards away from it, it just looks like a little gleam there. And it's plenty good enough to keep the muzzle, the impact from all of that high pressure area, from the muzzle breaking everything forward of the crown of the muzzle there, from throwing up a lot of dust and a lot of snow. Stingy that I'm going to... What I did was when I got home, you guys, let's go back here because I got all that carpet padding. And now I've got one side green, you know, pretty good woodland camo. And the other side is that big sheet of urban camo. And I went across the creek here to the seamstress, the lady, my neighbor, and had her slow that all the way around and seal it up. And now I got me a shooting blanket. But before I did that, you know what I did, I got a can of a spray adhesive and sprayed it on the mat and then applied the The winter camo on one side and the summer camo on the other. I rolled over the edges so she didn't have to do that. I pinned it a little bit here and there. All she had to do was set it down by her sewing machine and run that edge, and then turn the other one. Now I've got me a nice shooting mat, both summer and winter. You know what? If you're going to fly with your gun, actually I did this once, Mark. I wrapped that around the gun case. And then my seamstress, my friend across the creek, she built me a little sleeve that all of that slid into with a zipper on it. And now I've got a soft case around my hard gun case, and inside that I've got foam. And it's all that old Chinese thing, soft, hard, soft, the gun, and the optical. You know, you guys, there's a quick solution for a shooting mat. If you're shooting, if you're a belly shooter, you know, shooting from the ground, the 50 caliber shooters association calls that tactical shooting mark. If you're shooting from the ground, you've got to have to deal with the muzzle. Even if you're shooting, excuse me, your main battle rifle, your .308, your .30-06, you guys lay down on the ground and take a couple shots and tell me what you're witnessing. There are numerous different ways. You can do the quick fix. It's down and dirty. Just slop some water out in front of you to keep the dust down. That'll work for a while, but you know what? That .50 is going to blow that mud away back down to dry dirt. I promise you that, unless you pull the trigger just one time and then you change places. You continue to blast across and the guy sitting over there, you know, this is another thing. It's real good to get familiar with your team and shooting a 50 like where people should be and where people shouldn't be in the blast, in the recoil blast of that, the muzzle brake. Now right off the get, you know, you shouldn't be in front of the gun when somebody's pulling the trigger. That's a gimme, right? That's a kind of stupid statement, but I thought I'd do that to get your attention. Just last week we were urging you to go to the 50 caliber shoot out there at the Whittington Center, because the 50 caliber people had their world championships out there. If you were to have done that, you could have walked up and down the line, behind the line as people were shooting, and experienced that overpressure that comes from. It is. I will say that once, Mark, we were shooting Oh, he might even be listening. I won't mention any names. But we were shooting a particular guy's M82. And as mentioned, we laid down the grass in front and out to the forward of the muzzle and out to each side. Almost like a V pattern to the back and each side and straight out to the front. For three shots and then someone would take two or three. I might have even been one shot. I'm not certain. But we'd trade off positions at the gun. And because of that, sometimes we'd stop and discuss what we were doing. You know, maybe you should pull that gun right up your shoulder, you know, things like that, and, you know, other things. Well, we had the tendency every once in a while we'd pause and I took an earplug out. And, you know, you get used to those earplugs being in for a while and after a while you can hear a normal conversation, you know, what's going on in the passenger seat or the sergeant yelling from across the road. You know what I mean? You get used to the earplugs and it's just that they keep the heavy shock down. Well, Mark, we were talking and I got to going and then it's my turn and I laid down behind that M82 and I had put that cheek weld up and I brought the gun up and all of the things you do, you know, your breath control and squeeze. And one thing that was getting me at the time, that's a two stage trigger. That's a long pull and then it gets real short pull. So, you know, we were kind of, one of the things we talked about was, well, some people were just pulling right through the trigger, one continuous motion. And they weren't hitting real well, but if you took the time to feel the trigger, pull it back, and then you could almost feel the next stage set, and then just pull the trigger and the gun goes off, you'd be more accurate. And we were talking about that, and I laid down to the gun, and I did everything that was supposed to be done, and I pulled the trigger, and it was as if someone slapped me upside the head, I had one ear plug in marked, the forward one, the one more toward the gun. This was the ear that was ever so slightly canted away from the gun. But it was as if somebody physically slapped me on the side of the head. That's not just noise, you guys. It is an overpressure holding that gun from moving backwards. put in the major herd of about 200 foot pounds of recoil onto your shoulder. I will tell you this and then I'll be quiet Mark. I was walking down the line I think it was the first year in 2002 at the Whittington Center and this was the day before people were shooting for record so everybody was just you know if you had somebody pulling the target up and down for you that was good but some people were just shooting at what they called you know the burn you'd bring the gun. Well I'm walking down the line and I pass this one old gentleman and I didn't get two steps beyond him and I heard bang and immediately found it kind of went like and I turned and I caught off the side as I'm turning to look back at what happened other people are looking and the gunner sitting you know two steps away from him two gun stages away is looking and the guy beyond is looking and the guy reaches up and he's got a shooting vest on that has a pad on his shoulder and he's rubbing his shoulder and he's looking at the gun and he looks around kind of sheepishly and says, just clean my muzzle brake back. I saw that and did that again. It was a good thing you had that shooting vest on with the pad, but he was rubbing his shoulder and he looked a little bit to be in kind of a little bit of one might call distress. Oh, I didn't put my muzzle brake back on. And again, I would bet that even the guy next to him and the guy on either side of him who witnessed it immediately, I'll bet you they'd never make that mistake. We pointed this out, Mark. I told you it would be quite a minute ago. That's the difference between wisdom and knowledge. Think about it. He was accumulating knowledge. Knowledge is not wanting to do it. Wisdom is, I'll never do that. Well, again, the interesting thing is, it only does it one time, just like we're saying about everything else. Just that one time, that sharp crack of experience guarantees, from that point forward, on the top of the list of things to do. You know it's going to be one of them. It's going to be the check, the muzzle first, along with the whole series of safety steps. This gets back to the whole idea though of cutting corners when you're in a hurry. Now granted, the basic rule, you can be in a hurry, but it first takes discipline and repetition so that you go through step by step by step by step automatically. Everybody's done this. You've gotten to the point where you can work a piece of equipment just like men who were loading muzzle loaders during the any of the you know any of the wars leading up to cartridge guns they got to the point where guys they didn't look at the firearm while they were loading Everything was done site. They were observing the target because it's closing typically and they're watching what's going on in front of them because they're paying attention to the battlefield. That's how they survived to date because they were short of the fact that random bullet came along and snapped them one way or another. The whole point is that by observing and watching the flow of action and still being able to handle a subroutine, you know, doing two things at once, they were able to continue to fight effectively. So loading a weapon and doing it within three rounds to four rounds a minute, you gotta remember that's with a cap and ball muzzle loading Springfield, pretty darn good but it was all immediate action drill repeated repeated repeated repeated repeated repeated repeated repeated that's really what you have to get used to doing it's something a lot of people aren't you know don't think about you know we figure well we'll just jump into it you can't do that there's nothing in the in this environment that's going to be forgiving when it comes to using your arms uh... if it's training yeah if it's training guys hearing eye protection you know we didn't used to worry about eye protection a lot of people wear glasses anyway, so we automatically have eye protection, we don't think about it. But we never used to think about eye protection, but we do now because there's so much cheap glass laying around, there's so much cheap plastic laying around, there's no reason not to put a piece of junk between you and whatever junk might be flying through the air, if it does on occasion. Gas blowback is most likely creating that little pressure wave we were talking about. Other than that, the basics are just going through a specific procedure. Now you want to review the procedure to make sure it's correct, but this way it becomes repetitive action automatic. Let me give you a best example. Do you remember Don when the Falkland War was going on? Remember back there when the Argentines were killing the Brits? Yup. And the Brits were killing the Argentines? It was a tit-for-tat thing. It wasn't one-sided. I think of you both. Yeah, everybody was, they were sinking each other's boats and shooting a lot of people on the ground and the Argentines fought very well, no matter what anybody says. In fact, they tried to downplay that because you got propaganda from the British end, but the bottom line is the Brits and the Argentines were pretty well equally matched and equally armed. Well, for propaganda purposes, they needed to have some press stuff going on with the wire service. So remember they had the emergency fleet. Now, nobody ever asked the question, what did we need this special resupply emergency fleet going somewhere for in the first place. Oh, that's right. The Argentine had shot the snot out of all the existing aircraft in the flotilla that slash the armada that the Brits have put together. And so they had to send down more Harrier aircraft to replace the battle damaged and shot down aircraft that could not fly. Well while they're going down there Don, they were showing footage of the next wave of British Marines headed down to the Falklands slash the Malvinas. And one thing you gotta be impressed with, they were still using the .308 Bren gun. Remember the Bren gun guys? They were using the .308 model as a squad gun because they were using the FN FAL as a standard battle rifle. Oh yeah, you guys are buying lots of those. STG-58s, G1s, FN FALs, L1A1s, which is what they were carrying. Anyway, what's interesting, Don, is they had a line of 20 Marines all with their squad guns, their Bren guns side by side by side by side by side. And it was like a chorus line when they changed mags. It takes longer for me to describe them tapping the mags magazine, flipping the mag, popping it out, dropping it down, bringing the next mag up in a pirouette roll where they drop the mag into the slot, pop the mag back, tap it, and away they go. Boom, boom, boom. and but it was it was being repeated over and over and over and I'm repeating it exactly as it was happening over and over and over and over it was like a course like duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh doing the can can but with squad automatic rifles and magazines And every man on time, every man together, every man's hands moving so fast that you couldn't see barely his hands moving. You've got to give him credit. But that's like a magician, huh? Yeah, that's the kind of conditioning though you have to have people. It should not even be a second thought. I can close my eyes and think of my M16 or my M14 and without even a second thought, place my muscle memory into the fact that I first mag pouch and my second mag pouch located on my left that I reach down to the second mag pouch. I unstrap the disconnect, which remember the old canvas type. I reach in, pull the first slab. Grab the back tab with the original mag still in place, pop the magazine, drop it, pivot my hand, bring the magazine up into the well, it has to snag that forward catch, pop it back, tap, tap, charging handle, and boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I can do that blindfolded, I can do that in absolute darkness, and I can remember it just like it was yesterday. With the M16, come on guys, think about it, there's a positive magazine well. But you've got to get used to the idea that you better stick that mag in the right place. So even though you don't think about it, Don, one of the things you do with all mags, remember they have a taper. And we all know that that taper is such that the pitch should be towards down into the back on the mag if it's in the right place. Always keep that in mind. That's part of the muscle memory. You don't think about it, but you've actually conditioned yourself to it. What you're going to do with the Air 15 is you drop the mag if you're not thinking about picking them up until after you win, because if you lose you won't care. Drop the mag as you're gripping the second mag. and you're holding it, you're confirming where the location of that bevel is. When you shove that into the magazine well, you also get a positive reinforcement, tap, tap, release on the side, or forgive me, right hand still on the pistol grip, release on the side, slap with my palm, bolt forward, and bum, bum, bum, bum. It's that simple, and it should be that, if that's the kind of muscle memory you should have in place. Now, if you want to go one step farther, it's drop the mag. If you're going to secure your mags, I understand this is a policy we teach, Drop the mag, stick it in your left popcorn pouch which has elastic on the top of it. Slide your hand back up to the farthest mag pouch back. Release the plastic tab. Grab the first magazine that's available because the only thing in that mag pouch will be loaded mags. Pull the mag forward, confirm the location of the magazine taper, insert into the magazine well. Tap, tap, and then release. release with your thumb or release with your palm, it's a matter of technique. Person I like to slap, that way there's a positive action there, you know it's going. And the weapon isn't going to break guys, it's supposed to take this kind of abuse. So you slap with your palm, in other words the side of your palm, like a karate chop. Slap with your palm, bolt forward, and even as the bolt's moving forward, you're bringing the weapon up to your shoulder and you're preparing to fire. It should be click, click, click, click, click. That's all there is to it. Slap, slap, slap, click, click, click. And in fact, you'll get to the point where it should actually be a pace. But you can accelerate that pace because, Don, you know, as you start out slower, when you teach somebody a technique, you start out slow, don't you? Oh, you start out slow so their eyes and their tactile, you know, if you're doing a grappling move, you want them to even feel what's going on, their tactile senses. And their eyes can follow. So you do not appear as a magician or as Mr. Otto used to say, working some kind of dirty trick on them. You're just working a technique because you've got that, as you point out, marked that muscle memory. You know what has to happen, where the hand has to be, what it feels like as it moves. or over or toward your opponent or slides up his forearm or the opponent's elbow to such a position that now you can lock the arm. Yeah, it comes from practice, it comes from repetition. And I'll say it again, it comes from doing the same thing over and over and over and repetition. It might seem boring, but you know, Boring can be real fun in the times when it's supposed to be someone making you so excited that you just lose track of what's going on and they impose their will upon you. But, but, but, but, oh, too late. Yep, exactly. In fact... Well, you know, I've said it before, and it's not a Don original, it comes from Mr. Shim. If you're in a fight, don't try to do something you've never done before, because odds are you're going to fail at it. And that reinforces that big, big drum we roll out here every day called training and practice. On one side it says training, and on the other side it says practice, and we beat that drum as hard as we can, don't we Mark? Yep. You know, on that note too, especially when it comes to going through the motion, you know the military even went so far, guys, how many of you remember this? By the numbers! One, two, three! 4 and what you're doing at each step, each action has a specific numerical value. By the numbers, attend, chum, womb, and you're all at attention. That's it. That's all there is to it. There's no other motion. Okay? And present, harms, womb. There you go. Click. Right up see each action one even if it's only what the other sounds ridiculous. No, that's how it works You give actually you have a pattern a system. It's established a system for training that's established Not just a system for wall Jesus how you bring your hand up and you touch the corner of your your brow you make sure the thumb is in the arm should come straight up along the body not swing out it should come up straight along the body come right up to the other that's that's it that that's the technique it says the actual task but the technique for getting to that point means that you have a pace count for everything each person will start to use that number system and learn to use that number system when it comes to operating dad I'm laughing there's something that was sent to me I have to share it with you apparently there's a coupon company out of Detroit and this is um the advertet somebody emailed me the advertisement I think is a little funny myself things to do in Detroit before you die one huge coupon email daily Thanks for doing Detroit Before You Die. One huge coupon. Only one? Yeah, I guess they don't even know it's the first one. Well, how many do I get? 10? 12? One. No, you don't know Detroit. What? Yeah, you don't know Detroit. I think that's why they did the advertising. Things to do in Detroit before you die. If you read that, I think it's truth in advertising. Well, let's see. We don't... It's like swimming with the dolphins. That's a running joke, remember? What's the guy's name? The one comedian. He's English. Billy Barty? I'm not going to do that. Yeah, well things didn't very well. I'd like to float in space. Well, how about a lifetime's worth of becoming an astronaut first or you're not getting there, you know what I mean? And the other thing is swim with the dolphins. Well, in Detroit, I don't know what it is you'd want to do before you die. I mean, maybe get...wait a minute, no, that's right. Get out of Detroit. That's the coupon. It's a ticket for the metro. Outbound. And it's like... it's like escape from new york dot if you don't get to the metro there is no need for a second coupon yeah but when you mentioned dolphins market after the involved with one particular uh... you know i i walk into this one store here and right there at the front of the display of the part of the barbie doll in a pink box mike pink box barbie comes in a pink box that's cool there's a dolphin in the box but you know what there's a orca in the box too you know orca a killer whale You could well imagine that the little girl takes the Barbie box home and unties the Barbie and unties the doll. There's a reason why the killer whale is tied down because there's a dolphin over there. So she throws the Barbie in the bathtub, the dolphin in the bathtub, and Barbie's playing with the dolphin, and then she throws the killer whale in and promptly eats the dolphin. The only reason I bring that up, Mark, is because little girl's fantasies and what we expect of the world and what the real world is are completely two different things, aren't they you guys? And you know when you might have had that one inch army guy or the GI Joe or whatever and things you thought about when you were a child, completely different than the things we deal with as an adult, aren't they? It's kind of meant to be that way. Mark, you've mentioned that the way a society is judged or can be judged in history is the way they treat their dead. and the way they treat their elderly and the infirm and the young. So with that in mind you guys, one of the reasons why I would say, and just as an example, many many years ago someone called me, Mark, right after I first started doing $%&$ with you, someone called me and he said he's buying buildings in the suburbs, not right in the city, but kind of in the suburbs away from the cities. He's buying buildings and he's stocking them up. They're just nondescript. Used to be a laundromat. Now it's all bricked up or used to be this or used to be that. He's putting food in him and he's putting medical gear in him. He said, these are don, this isn't for the troops. I know there are people doing that. This is for the orphans because there will be plenty of parentless children. That's an example right there. I had great respect for that guy. Maybe he's listening today. I've had him on the back. whether he's listening or not because you know he's looking at the calendar and he's making plans and he's making motion on them and he's not just looking for himself he's not just I'm going to dig me a hole somewhere and take me a big pile of beans and bullets and if I have to I'll take my machine gun out and get food I've heard that too I'll take my machine gun and I'll go get food I've heard that too but you know it's a matter of And what you are willing to do on Guess and Mark or what you are prepared for. Because if you're properly prepared, if you've been listening to this hour for a good long time and you've been soaking a little money away here for a little bit of gold and a big pot. See that's the difference here. We could talk about well if you're buying gold you know you're going to throw that in the pot and cook up a gold bullion. Well so you should get the proper priorities here because you're going to need a pile of beans before you're going to need a little bit of gold. You're going to need a pile of bullets to prepare. protect that pile of beans, aren't you? And if you're willing to do that, well, you should probably put it in a couple of different places because all your eggs in one basket, you know, you can take a hurting in that, can't you? Stick around and spread it around to people who, well, if I'm not here, I'll be sure happy to see you guys eat it up or send it downrange or burn it for fuel or wear it until it's worn out. You see where I'm going with that. The other thing is here, you know, Mark, we talk about things that will disappear. And you know what, if you have real binky youngsters, if you have what would be infants, one of the first things that's going to disappear, you aren't going to be able to go to the grocery store and get food and this and that and the other thing. But you know what, it might seem like a smelly subject, but you're not going to be able to go to the store and get diapers. Now, when you think about that, and this goes over to doing for more than yourself, because I expect great portions. You're not a patriot just for yourself, are you? Aren't you a patriot for the future of the nation? So that right there tells me that you're willing to do for more than just yourself. But I'm kind of getting over here to a particular area because if you are a parent with young children, how did your grandparents used to deal with that particular smelly situation? Well, you know, you get these things that they used to call cloth diapers, Mark. And you know what? Other than the commonly thought of today you can reuse diapers not the disposable ones that's just another way and you know might want to put up some of those because well somebody might show up in the 510 program and we've talked about personal hygiene and it would be good to do for someone who cannot do for themselves so maybe while dad's away go on more than buy baby bumpkins that's right you know what I mean I heard a beep down we might have a caller who do we have Hi, my name's Elden, how you guys doing? Hey Elden, go ahead. Okay, how about you? Hey, I have a question. Very soon I'm going to be going to help our brothers on the border there. And I have a question about an optic system and which of two rifles to put it on. What I want to do is either like an EOTech or an ACOG with a daynight converter and put it on either an M1A or a SIG 556 SWAP. What would you guys recommend? Well first of all on the rifle, you're out in the desert. you'll find a lot of the guys even though they do use ARs and using 5.56 you can see farther than you can shoot if you can get to any terrain you can see to maximum range you know in other words for your rifle I would go the M1A first of all that would be your first choice and you can talk to the guys down there to see what units I know there's guys carrying 14's, FAL's, you know M1A's FAL's and HK91's regularly so that would be a good choice The only consideration with 308 is you're going to want to make sure you're bringing in a little more ammo to be safe. Know that on the other side, let's say that things escalated. It's not likely, but let's say that things escalated. The Mexican military uses a lot of 308. They certainly use .223s, but they still have a lot of F and FALs. They still have HKG3 assault rifles. So, 308 is going to be out there in force. A lot of their roof guns for the same reason we're talking because they know they can see as far as they can see they can shoot with the .308 and you're looking at extreme ranges out there. You're looking to be able to get up onto a small hillock and be able to use that rifle to its maximum potential with very little obstruction to actually block the bullet. So there's a big plus plus. Another thing in consideration is if you do have anything blocking it .308 is a much better brush buster than the .556. Now, call down, give them an email and see whether depending on the unit they may have a survey already in place of what their dominant arm is. So it's up to you to choose depending upon what they see as a requirement. They may recommend using the 223 for certain areas of operation because of where you'll be deployed. How's that sound? That's I'm sorry. That sounds great. I have no experience with the type of optics I was speaking with a day-night converter, or would you use like an eotech or an a cog or do you have an opinion on that? Well, let me address that real quick because we're getting up to the top of the hour but that that's When you're talking about a one-power gun sight you could you know you're and the type of rifle that you're the platform you're using one power Well, you'd be better off just sticking with the iron in this instance. Now, what you can do is you're going to need a long rail if you're going to want to do that. You're going to need a long rail and it's going to have to come up off the side of the gun and it's going to have to sit ever so slightly off to the side in order that, you know, well, that empty case jumps away and you can put that fresh D-Cliff in, right? You're going to need a long rail. What I would say is use your iron sights in the daytime and get yourself a short rail and a night dedicated piece. That way, once you zero that piece on the gun, you can take that off in the daytime. It's that thumb screw. Take that off in the daytime. And you can put it back on at night. And if you pay attention to how the mount is fitted to the gun, Don't buy a B-square mount for this please. I'm not deriding B-square mounts. They're great. They do good if you don't want to drill holes or if you just want to hang something on there for shorter ranges. Look for something like Field, even, a real good brand name to get a flat rail there and then hang a night vision piece on that. When it is fitted to the gun, you turn that thumbs off and lay that back in its case. It gets dark, you bring it up and you thumb-screw it back down, you're going to be within a minute at 100. You're going to be within 1 inch at 100 yards. Now I know that is 10 inches at 1000 yards, but that's almost what you would call a repeatable zero, isn't it Mark? Oh yeah, and one of the advantages now, you know what if you're using the M1A especially, remember the M1A is already set up for the standard side mount fixture. There's a screw hole in the side of the receiver. The advantage is, like you said, Dom was saying, you can go to Daylight Scope for one option, you don't have to leave your night vision exposed constantly. You can actually have two fixtures. and mount one, mount your daylight scope for long range optics and observation. One of the advantages you've got to do, you know, the scope works as an observation tool. At night, then you switch out and go over to your night vision device, whatever model you have. So that's the best choice. Personally, that's what I would do if I had an M1A right now that I was building up again. If I was doing a new one, there's a couple companies that have built brand new, in fact, hold on here. I think Gun Parts Company is one of the companies, but there's several others that have. It's Gun Parts Company. Gun Parts Corporation, their number is 866-866-866. 686-7424. See if they have it on hand. I know a couple of other companies do. Sarco does also. They've got an aftermarket, but it's a factory knockoff of the US military mount. It will take, because it has Picatinny rails, it will take both the standard scope, or you can adapt it for and use any of the night vision technology out there that uses the same fixture. uses the Picatinny rail system. So the M1A in that respect, if we're looking at versatility, I would go that way because one mount doesn't fit all the problems. And I hate using my night vision. A lot of guys are doing this. They're taking the night vision scope and using it during the day. I can't see that. Number one, you don't have a sugar daddy, I know that. So if you have night vision on hand, you want to save that. You want to preserve it. You want to take care of it. So make sure that, again, when you can put that in darkness and keep that shut off, that keeps those hours on the tubes where they're useful. That's what we're looking at. Go ahead, Don, please. Oh, we are right at the top. Okay, thank you guys very much. We're actually tasked. Very good. And again, Arizona Militia at hushmail.com. Give Hardway a call and find out what's going on down there as far as what their choice in arms. He may have a recommendation for you if you have an option between the two weapons. Both are good choices, by the way. They're excellent firearms. We're at the top, Don. God bless the Republic. Death to the New World Order. We shall prevail, ladies and gentlemen. The Empire is on the run. But we are on the March 4th day and night. U-ROD! Kick him at range, drop him at- Where have all the military surplus stores gone? Don't worry, you don't need one. Because everything you need at Military Surplus is at mainmilitary.com. 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